Copa America Centenario

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/11/19/15/05/151119-mnt-ten-metropolitan-areas-across-the-us-selected-to-host-copa-america-centenario

Stadia announced

awesome, want to go this, even though i would prefer to never go back to the meadowlands.
happy this is happening.

sucks that half of the venues have artificial turf.

yeah, it's definitely unfortunate. professional soccer should not be played on artificial turf except in extenuating circumstances - really harsh climate + lack of money to maintain grass makes it justified in smaller, lower/smaller league club soccer imo.

definitely going to a game in seattle (im in van bc), hoping chile play a group game there, if not I'm hoping for a knockout game or two to be played there.

will be interesting to see how popular this tournament will be.

feeling good about renewing my Fire season tickets despite their incredible suckiness bc now I'm afforded a pre-sale for games at Soldier Field

otm about artificial turf, tho apparently they're laying down temp grass which is still stupid

USA, Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico announced as seeded teams. USA and Arg will play in Chicago for sure. Gonna get on that presale, likely the best benefit to Fire season tix this year.

chile not seeded booooooooooooooo

currently second only to argentina in the fifa world rankings out of all the teams from the Americas :>c

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbyIVGgWEAAEYBm.jpg

Cool.

group stage bringing a rematch of last year's final :)

ach looking at the schedule and the chile v argentina game in the bay area is achievable for me but probably not going to make it, blah. might try for the quarter final scheduled in seattle.

Chile absolutely giving it vs Mexico right now, man they're a lot of fun to watch.

Tickets for Jamaica v Venezuela in Chicago can be had for as little as $2, totally gonna go.

Aaand Chicharito scores a classic Chicharito goal

USA off to a very USA start

https://mobile.twitter.com/whatahowler/status/738942938424741888/video/1

Not sure exactly what happened but on the way home one of my Colombian friends said to me "Gringo, lo siento."

Oh wait, I think he told me the score, 2-0, iirc.

Sorta stupid to put games like Costa Rica/Paraguay in 70,000 seat stadiums instead of a more appropriate MLS venue.

Monday night 7pm pacific is Chile v Argentina. Pumped for the game.

Brazil gifted a non-call to avoid going down a goal. Despite the 0-0, the best game so far.

@ Jamaica v Venezuela right now tbh

It's interesting to see teams play soccer in Chicago and like try to win

pulling stats for this week's games, saw this for argentina-chile tonight:

Chile was not able to convert in any of the last 7 matches vs Argentina at the Copa America. The last time they scored a goal vs Argentina was in 1959, they lost 1-6.

would be shocked if this streak continues after how chile looked against mexico the other night

although after watching mexico again last night it's pretty clear they've come to play

flipping back and forth between pens vs sharks and chile-argentina

american style xx.x channels are so weird

ARGvCHI and MEXvURU the games of the tournament so far imo

also: LOL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkXDHngUUAAHUTK.jpg

usa 4-o crc

that was slightly unexpected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpXZWSvtmaw

Colombia looking very good here, thought not quite at Mexico or Argentina's level.

Just curious since this thread isn't getting much traffic: Is it less interesting because it's an off-sequence tournament, or do people just not care on a different level? Or maybe it's the time the games are played? It's a little surprising honestly, given the traffic on the Euros thread.

For my part I just haven't had a chance to watch until just now, but I think in general lots of people care more about the other tournament.

Hell of a goal by Ayala for Paraguay just now, 30+ yards.

xp that's pretty much what I figured

Yeah, that goal was really nice

Redd card!?

Colombia the first team through to the Quarterfinal with that win. They looked tired towards the end for sure, the game got sort of end-to-end there.

Yeah

wrt to copa america popularity compared to the euros, well it's style, stars and location i guess

latin american football is pretty different and the players are considered lower tier, with most wanting to make it big in europe; probably because they are bigger markets, so more money

and the euros will start friday with tonnes of star players. i mean just look at germany though they have a lot of older players now as well

they have pretty much failed to deliver on the stars that are participating, it's true, although James is kicking ass

I don't agree with the lower level part overall, I mean Bolivia suuuuucks, and never mind Haiti, but there has been some top level play for sure

RIP Haiti btw

I mean obv with the non-Mexico CONCACAF sides included the level is lower

Haiti's goal tonight on local radio: https://twitter.com/Raschiid/status/740721330492985345?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

(they lost 7-1 to brazil)

\ecuador ties it 2-2 with peru as I type

Had to walk away when the Vino Tinto got injured. Has the game gained any momentum?

Vinotinto

What's black and white and red all over?

dave225
briania
Mott de Terre
Joe McCombs

Ha wrong thread

https://twitter.com/deejayfaremi/status/741146521333293058

I have always been slightly put off the copa america by its numbing frequency, but more crucially its not televised much. I watched costa rica - Paraguay this time, but I won't bear a grudge

Wow, great equalizer from Bolivia.

Yeah that was fantastic, they're showing more energy now too

Chile flirting with elimination now :c

I have always been slightly put off the copa america by its numbing frequency, but more crucially its not televised much. I watched costa rica - Paraguay this time, but I won't bear a grudge
― ogmor, Friday, 10 June 2016 01:44 (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Except for this centenary edition it has been changed to every 4 years since 2007,and will be that way in future (ignoring this tournament).

Fuck sake puch smh

Jesus vidal

Nice save on the fk

A bunch of my friends texting and such trying to get me to go to the ARGvPAN game at Soldier Field tonight, cheapest Stubhub seats are $135... I'll be staying on the couch for this one.

Nice save on the fk

Eight minutes!

Ho boy

Ugh

Ahhh holy shit

Love this chaos

That was a very soft penalty. MLS refs :/

Bolivia had their chance to equalise tho, jesus.

Chile live to fight another day, theyre not going to do too well this tournament based on what we've seen.

Here comes the CONCACAF filth

on the one hand, it's nice to not watch a complete bus park fest. Panama is obviously raw and lack technical skills but they're fairly good athletes with some speed and sometimes they overachieve through sheer will.

But they're also flop artists and much like Bolivia, their defensive strategy is jumping on opposing players' backs and wailing away.

also lol was that five yellows in fifteen minutes?

p much don't see anybody who's taking down Argentina in this tourney unless Mexico keeps form, but Chile could always regain their form - they just got deflated after the equalizer and were facing a team playing for a draw for 75 of the 90 minutes. Brazil scoring 7 on Haiti is indicative of p much nothing but given who has been bounced already they'll probably go far enough.

lol another yellow

as far as Penedo, I heckle him every time his punk ass comes to Orlando.

$132 might have been worth it to see Messi except what's the point of putting him in if they rack up a multi-goal lead. possibly just to tune him up but they could just as easily do that in the next match.

a lot of money for something that will only occupy two hours of your night

no flow to this shit at all. this is turning into last year's Gold Cup

Godoy deserved that shit. this is goonball, not football.

https://twitter.com/TotalMLS/status/741451097319952388

Dumbass MLS, lol

Surprising too because the Dallas academy is like top 2-3 in the league

lol damn. any other famous MLS flameouts that became studs in Europe?

short night for Di Maria

Good question. The immediate name that comes to mind is Bedoya, I remember reading that MLS lowballed him on a contract and he went to Sweden instead, then on to France etc.

I'm sure there are more. Probably mostly Liga MX players?

I keep hoping Larin will eventually become the complete package in Orlando but I feel like he's gonna get poached away by Europe long before we'll ever find out.

garbage first half. shoulda saved the Arg-Chile group match for later, just diminishing returns for that group until the elimination round. tho the Chile-Bolivia 2nd half was entertaining and crazy as hell.

Messi scores!

while being mugged

Messi again! on the free kick. right after the color commentator called it.

hat trick in 25 minutes of play. unreal.

Smoked

due to the fact that Chile is playing Panama next, unless they underachieve against them too, I'm not sure if Chile even needed tonight's win to advance. hurts from a moral victory standpoint but Bolivia weren't advancing whether they got 1 point or 0.

HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

oh take that Panama.

messi is...really good at soccer

yes announcers we know the score isn't indicative of that match, but come on, Argentina's not used to playing the bitch-assed soccer that Panama plays, with the frequent muggings and floppings, all of which breaks up the flow.

wow, field invasion

anybody see that kid in a Barca jersey get tackled?

damn. will be a fun trip to jail for that dumbass but he gets to tell everybody the real Messi hugged him

I'm not sure if Chile even needed tonight's win to advance

mostly due to goal differential, that is.

xp Monterrey Security are complete hamfisted jackasses when it comes to pitch invaders... either the invader gets to run around in circles while their guards stand around mouthbreathing, or the guards absolutely shitpaste the invader and beat him up on the sidelines. I've seen both happen multiple times, never just quietly shepherding them away.

When Montreal came to town to play the Fire, a guy ran out on the field in the second half, took a selfie with Drogba, then ran back into the crowd. Not one Monterrey guard did squat until some fans in the stands grabbed the guy and held on to him until security showed up. Players chased the guy off the field, not security.

Well okay

Brooks has gotten really good.

Holy shit what stupid play from Yedlin

Brooks has gotten really good.

vamos ticos!

stat I just yanked in preparation for the Mexico/Venezuela game:

Mexico has won 11 consecutive games and is unbeaten in 21 consecutive games. Juan Carlos Osorio has not lost a game in his tenure as Mexico manager.

relevant to today's matches:

NOTE: If Brazil and Peru results in a scoreless draw and Ecuador wins 1-0, Brazil wins the group, but Peru and Ecuador are tied with +1 goal differential, 3 goals scored and are equal on head-to-head record with their 2-2 draw. In this scenario, the advancing team will be decided by a drawing of lots.

It's on

Ugh

lol

Justice for Ecuador

that peru handball was a doozy.

f the seleção 4eva tho, get a manager who isn't as much of a cretin as dunga, please

Bolivia is the Turkmenistan of South America

nb I do not actually believe that

I do like how the Brazil and Paraguay coach firings have kind of laid to rest the "are these teams taking this seriously" questions

actually looking forward to the US match tomorrow. be nice if we didn't fuck it up

Yedlin's suspension is going to be an issue what with the Valencias running the wings. I'm expecting them to switch Johnson to the right and put in Castillo on the left. Enner has been huge for them throughout the tournament, he's leading in basically every offensive category.

yeah...I'm worried about it, too. part of me was all "oh just happy to be here" until Brazil was no longer our foe. now it's like, this is one we should win (not that "should" means anything with the US).

I'm still so surprised at John Brooks. wasn't that long ago that he was getting called out for his sloppy play in the Gold Cup. amazing what a solid club season (and some stability in lineups from Klinsman) can do.

Yeah I can see him making a big move in Germany this year, especially if he plays well in Europa League.

Great article on Brooks I read yesterday: http://americansoccernow.com/articles/thomas-rongen-recalls-bringing-john-brooks-to-u-s

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClF0Z8gWgAEvqOp.jpg

Well alright

Holy shit

Brooks playing out of his mind other than that last play. Wood a solid half.

Backline looks reborn after last year. But...bending way too much in the latter moments. Starting to make some of the dumb midfield giveaways of 2015.

Still....damn.

Bedoya was huge that half. If he'd scored he'd be an all time hero.

Yea that sequence was great even if it didn't pay off.

I would not mind watching the US lose 3-0 to Messi next week.

Say what?

The fuck did Jones do?

hit a guy in the face

Ahh saw it.

Well we are boned if we get to the semis without wood

And lots of other yellow cards on the field- four at least, sounds like.

So yeah.

BOOM

america is a good country

.

+4 more minutes of this

to endure

Good luck, boys! You'll need it.

Wow. Nothing pretty about that half and we are still like the janitors of soccer but damn I'm still stoked.

We will get smoked by Argentina but I'll take it

So this tournament is no extra time, only penalties, but maybe you already all knew this.

Jones, Woods, Bedoya all out, but Yedlin comes back.

yeah which is why I didn't want it to end in a draw. feels wrong to go right to penalties w/out extra time (I am ok with the whole golden goal that FIFA decided to get rid of tho)....

extra time comes back in the final right?

yup - http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2016/6/16/11959940/copa-america-overtime-rules-extra-time-penalties

so this could be Colombia or Mexico/ARgentina possibly.

would be hilarious if Venezuela won

The Final has extra time, but the Quarters and Semis don't.

Apparently there is a red card appeal process but I doubt it'll work out if tried.

Venezuela has been the surprise of the tournament, imo: just missed beating Mexico to win the group, conceded 1 goal in the first round (but only scored 3).

with that new rule it's pointless for Jermaine.

even w/ nobody suspended the US wasn't winning that one, hopefully we'll just give a good ride. gutted for them not being able to be on the field tho.

i'm amazed there wasn't a yellow for the stuffing the ball into the player's chest by Ecuador on the sideline. ref started to lose control a bit at that point

Did I hear there is an explicit hand to face rule?

apparently.

doesn't seem to be an explicit hand to groin or hand to any other area rule tho

lol I missed the last Chile match ....they gave up TWO to Panama?

first one, which was the opening goal of the match, was a goalkeeping mistake by claudio bravo, who let a weak shot from distance trickle in the net.

2 hours until chile v mexico. i fear this will be the end of the tournament for my beloved andean rascals, but should be an entertaining game for sure, 3 goals or more p much guaranteed.

Are you watching this game now?

Second half would be looking a lot more intriguing if the guy had made the penalty.

Leo just tied Batistuta for most international goals for Argentina.

im not watching the game right now as both games are pay per view on my cable package and im contenting myself with some mls right now before paying for the game i really care about

first one, which was the opening goal of the match, was a goalkeeping mistake by claudio bravo, who let a weak shot from distance trickle in the net.

thinking of this again: think both of the goals were goalkeeping mistakes (can't remember that well only watched the highlights).

hilarious how much a game in the u.s. is a home game for mexico, could hardly hear the chilean anthem.

lol yay Chile. I hate El Tri so damn much

well, mostly their fans. when I was at their match against Panama in the Gold Cup last year I saw two Mexico fans get in a fight *with each other*.

really glad they didn't call a penalty on that one stumble in the box, did not want a repeat of #noerapenal

they sell Ochoa wigs

this is hella slander, u will not besmirch chicharito, carnál

I'm still mad that the Chicharito to Orlando City rumors never panned out.

this has been a good wee game so far. im tense as fuck though, and chile scoring didn't help things, if anything it heightened it.

chile were bossing it to start but mexico definitely on top at the moment and expect them to create a good chance before too long. ten minutes til half time.

aww man. good call on the offside tho

oh god, chile have goal correctly chopped off for offside after a beautiful move, gawd if vargas had just held his run a second more

so far FX's coverage better than Fox Sports 1, where they literally spend 3 minutes showing replays or the faces of coaches while the game goes on down the field

vidal got a yellow card and will be suspended for the semi if chile qualify. that seems like a kiss of death to their chances in the tournament even if we assume they'll win tonight. such a key player

the pace of this match is great

shoulda passed there d00d

HOLY SHIT

that was pretty

oh my god 2-0 chile this is amazing, they are really cutting mexico apart when they get in dangerous positions, so many runs that the mexicans can't keep up with to track

playing a lot of nice balls in. Ochoa had no damn chance

so what's the leading predicted reason Messi and Arg are not gonna win this yet again this year

Some sort of curse? Actually just came to post that friend from Argentina is being cagey about their chances on Tuesday against USA.

so far FX's coverage better than Fox Sports 1, where they literally spend 3 minutes showing replays or the faces of coaches while the game goes on down the field

same announcers/etc, not sure about production teams. tonight's coverage has been closer to how European matches are shown where you only show replays during down moments. the other night w/ USA and Ecuador they kept diverting away from the action for long periods of time, then the camera would swing back and you'd see a team outside the box lining up a cross. I was waiting for them to outright miss a goal.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

man see this is why I hate El Tri fans. throwing shit on the field now

they did that at the Gold Cup match I was at too. thta's actually what started the fight between the two fans.

But I switched to Fox en Español just in time for third goal

that was a beauty of a setup. so creative.

AHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA

ok am i tripping or something. this is unreal

so USA is going to be the last CONCACAF team standing. didn't see that coming

(granted, there was a LOT of luck involved, but hey....)

they're just confident now, everything's falling for them xpost

im stifling wild screaming celebration as im sitting on a couch with two sleeping cats

man it's gonna be that much more deflating when Mexico wins 5-4

j/k

the yellow card accumulation suspensions are always so deflating in this tournament, puts dampers on wins. almost wish they'd raise the total from 2 to 3 but it'd probably inspire more reckless play

AHAHAHAHHSAFHKJDASFKJDAJFHDHFJDAHKJFDKJAFDKJAA HAHA KALADLJFDA;KFJDAKLJRS;EAJFELKDAD

this is incredible.

chile goin for 6 this is crazyyyyyyyy

there's still THIRTY FUCKIN MINUTES hahahaha

uh oh here comes the comeback

according to spanish stat guy on twitter mister chip eduardo vargas' hat-trick in this game is the first mexico has ever conceded in the copa america and chile's first in the copa america since 1955.

Feel kind of bad for Ochoa.

yeah, really he had no chance on most of them. Chile just doing some incredible things with the ball in the final third.

the US will beat argentina

Are you Alexi Lalas?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

Make it stop

this is a victory lap for their victory lap

ok this is brazil germany now

chile doesnt give a FUCK

vidal has missed two great chances and one or two decent ones

Do the commentators in English call Vidal "King Arthur" as well?

ok this is brazil germany now

i'm drunk and don't watch much soccer tbh

but messi must be stopped

wow that was enjoyable

kevin what the fuk messi is an angel

cr7 is the one ya love to hate and he got owned hard today

ya i love messi but idk man USA must win

i'd love it but i'd simultaneously feel terrible for Messi.

needs to be recorded:
16' - CHI - Edson Puch
44' - CHI - Eduardo Vargas (Alexis Sanchez)
49' - CHI - Alexis Sanchez (Arturo Vidal)
52' - CHI - Eduardo Vargas (Alexia Sanchez)
57' - CHI - Eduardo Vargas
74' - CHI - Eduardo Vargas
87' - CHI - Edson Puch (Arturo Vidal)

Report from Mexico City - lots of bemused faces on the metro, 4x4 with flat battery in Centro Historico, 4, people pushing it along road, people kept joining in til about 20 people pushing, all laughing and shouting Chile Chile Chile. Seem to be taking it better than those in the stadium anyway

watched with a Mexican friend and he said he was really worried from the outset, said this team lacked heart and would fold if they got pushed around

...he was correct

It's on in the NPG Stadium.

Going about as well as I expected

Guzan blew it on the first one, and Wondo shouldn't even have been on the field to foul Messi.

Yea fuck Wondo. But yaaaay suspensions.

Hey tho happy to be here

"we did good guys! no shots on goal but maybe 3rd place!"

^lol

Don't tell my Colombian friends but I am rooting for Chile tonight. Hope they can do it even with "el rey Arturo" on the bench.

Ospina looks miserable.

def pulling for chile

great sequence!

Colombia could claw back

whoa crazy weather event

Wonder if I should walkabout until it restarts

they said 30min delay...about 30min ago

The delay resets every time there is a lightning strike within five miles of the stadium, I think.

Current restart time is 10:15 Eastern

It's fuckin nasty here rn

(I live in Chicago etc etc)

they always low-ball the re-start prediction to appease whiny fans. when they say estimated re-start time they mean "earliest possible re-start time". if you look at the weather map on weather.com it's like "lol good luck getting restarted before 11 pm ET".

sucks for Colombia, having to wait to make their triumphant comeback

i went to an Orlando City match last year that ended around midnight due to hours of delays. went home soaked....was fun

it's getting close to bedtime :(

supposedly they're only willing to wait another hour (even though deadline is 12 am ET). that's around the time weather.com says the weather will clear up

that would suck to finish tomorrow. who the fuck wants to drive to the stadium and pay for parking again only to see only a half of soccer?

the field is apparently filled with puddles. this is gonna benefit Chile all the way

Don't know if I can stay up

There is some serious squeegeeing going on on the pitch.

having to watch it on Fox Sports Go thanks to my piece of shit roommate occupying the TV. after 5 seconds, it buffers and goes to a black screen. bleh

Hate TV hogs.

this is gonna be slip slidey soccer

moreso than it was before the rain even

The more you near your destination

11:20 ET now. fuuuuck this

The way they keep reshowing the highlights reminds me of that one Mary Tyler Moore Show episode about the election returns during the snowstorm.

Glad I was busy earlier and didn't get home in time to ppv.

<3 this generation of Chilean players, given me so much joy, still don't dare to dream that, if they get to the final, they can repeat last year's feat.

The shit of it is I could have gone to this game

The forecast kept me away 100%

man fuck that second yellow call. this ref sucks

now an entertaining match goes 10 on 11.....i'm tuning out

Feel like they might as well be playing in a bouncy tent.

Whoa

don't understand why they don't play nagbe or pulisic in this kind of game, although I understand not having them start

first half subs would be really dumb tho

those guys better get to play in some quals soon

Pulisic coming in

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f845ddb934130855716bc0df5e113ddabcc7b270/0_216_3975_2386/master/3975.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=a2bf5dce4c7fe8cc9d696d660f93f611

guessing this one ends after extra time 1-1, goes to pens, Argentina wins 4-2 on pens

Casi, casi

Pretty brutal so far

Enjoyed Gary trying to commit seppuko using the post after almost gifting Higuain a goal

Diaz off, 2nd yellow after 28 mins

Controversial call, that

Looked alright to me

i kinda thought his first yellow coulda been even worse given the way he chopped at Messi's legs but sicne he didn't show stud guess it was just yellow.

Both were clear bookings, though the 2nd one was the kind of foul that refs sometimes feel bad about sending ppl off for

Vargas, putting your hands on the ref, even a friendly pat, probably a bad idea after Diaz just got sent off.

hi, casual fan here, has messi scored 4 goals yet?

this is gonna finish as a 8 on 7 at this rate

rather, why hasnt messi scored 4 goals yet?

At least 2 more reds to come in this one

xpost cos this game has had no flow due to injuries and fouls. also every time Messi dribbles in space people are basically mauling him.

messi str8 splashing on that dive

sick nutmeg too bad he dove

Ugh

lol yeah ref got that one right.

lol back to 10 on 10.

this has looked like an MLS match officiated by Ted Unkel.

Lol

oh that was a shitty red tho

joey crawford out here

i am kinda glad it's even again now tho even though it was hogwash.....maybe we can salvage a good half out of this

idk that one seemed a bit harsh? Minimal contact etc. Was Rojo on a yellow? Also did someone stamp on him in the aftermath?

no seemed like it was just a straight red

got ball first too

i'd be pissed if I dropped a couple hundies on this final and got this first half

Nah this is great. The pitch seems v small/crowded so a few sendings off are a) amusing and b) open up a bit of space for the 2nd half.

yeah but there was no flow at all in that half. if it sets up a fun second half finish I'll forgive it but the first Argentina - Chile match was much more fun even if it was Messi-less.

lol typical Alexi Lalas response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phf4xvI9fpE

they shoulda held this final in Central Park

Lol

lol typical Alexi Lalas response

yup p much.

i suspect it's cos he's mad about yesterday's 3rd place match so he's glad this one has been a trainwreck so far

lol man that Gonzalo miss was hilarious

match sounds like it's reminiscent of this classic Footcelsior

god on replay that is one of the worst straight reds I've ever seen

did he maybe scream something anti-Semitic too

You're talking about Rojo?

i suspect it's cos he's mad about yesterday's 3rd place match so he's glad this one has been a trainwreck so far

it was pretty evenly matched through the end of the national anthem

usa should really have been on top at that stage no?

Serious Baldwin vibes from Pizzi

You'd think they'd stop lunging at Messi after he dived to get like 4 of them booked already

ahh this half has been much more fun.

KUN AGUERO

This refs kind of an asshole

That should have been a red

Incredible save Bravo

Managed to be busy and I haven't gotten to catch this, relying on twitter updates. Only the joint most important Chilean national team game in my 32 years of half-chilean life, no big deal :/

omfg what a save

Bravo is tremendous, Barcelona should play him every game.

Dope extra time so far

Alexis looked almost dead as he came off. Tough match, impressed they are keeping the tempo up

Diaz is gonna sneak back on with a comedy mustache

pretty great keeper play on both sides

Yea I can enjoy a 0-0 like this

Lots of tired passes now, would be surprised to see a goal before 120

Wouldn't

That ref is doing a great Joe Crocker impersonation

Ach well pens it is

ROMERO

Omg messi wtf

Congrats JiG!

Man I am gutted for Messi

Yes major grats

ugh gutted for messi too

Post-game Messi apparently said he's retiring from international play?

lost all four major international finals, he's fed up

I felt bad for Messi immediately following the game. Has been unable to bring success to Argentina and has just lost 3 major finals in two years with the country. Even taking into account his missed penalty last night in the shootout - which is a grave error for sure - he's been their best player in those 3 tournaments and often their best player in the finals they've lost. Despite this the Argentinean public have always been overly hostile to him, never really warming to him or accepting him, criticising him heavily for any real or perceived failures, referring to him as "the Catalan" etc. And he had talked about international retirement before, about 5 years ago due to this.

Still think retiring from the national team is the wrong call. Still, he has 2 years until the next WC, could always return.

Delighted with Chile obviously. Last year when they hosted the Copa America they were in great form, the Borghi era was a great success, had retained the good parts of the Bielsa era, but added some more defensive composure. With the home crowd it really seemed like the only time Chile could possibly hope to win the Copa America, and they did. Then the ANFP (national association of professional football) fell out with Borghi, then Pizzi came in, results and form were poor. Came into this tournament not looking that great, started with a defeat to Argentina, should have been eliminated against Bolivia - won with a very soft penalty in injury time and Bolivia subsequently blew a clear opportunity to equalize with the last kick of the ball. But then the dismantling of Mexico was basically peak Chile. And from what I saw of the highlights last night Argentina were the better team, but the grit and fight of Chile kept them alive.

This is the greatest generation of Chilean footballers, and thankfully it's a relatively young squad. Will be together for the next world cup and the next Copa America in 3 years time. Fantastic to go from basically being an irrelevance in South American football to winning the Copa America twice.

agh, and of course it was Sampaoli who had brought chile to their apotheosis, won the Copa America last year, and then was swiftly gotten rid of, the ANFP just likes to go through Bielsista managers at an alarming rate and it can be hard to keep up

sorry I missed this thread. been away from ilx for a few months.

i watched all the Chile games (and attended one) plus a bunch of others. thrilled for my Roja, gutted for Messi nonetheless (really, it's one thing to live in the shadow of that other #10, and another when that 10 is alive and surfaces to gargle his stomach acids at the worst possible times).

one thing that seems to have escaped notice from much of the post-Final press i've read (most of which is about the Argentina/Messi "curse" etc): the work of the Chilean midfield in the final game, and in particular Vidal. Monster game from Arturo.

cheers jim!

jealous you got to a game, altho my tentative plan was to attend the opener against argentina which they lost so maybe I didn't miss out too much, ha.

viva chile CTM!

copa america is on. japan and qatar in it this year. probably not enough interest to merit a new thread tbh.

japan v chile in 2 and a half hours.

Chile lineup looks old

old gold

no we are old and the chances of retaining the championship are slim to none :'-(

most of this team played at the 2010 world cup

Qatar played well and should probably have won from 2-0 down.

Japan starting with a striker who had never played a professional football match possibly suggests they aren’t taking it all that seriously. Makes sense to give their youth team a taste of major tournaments, though.

Argentina were predictably awful.

Not 100% sure but I think when teams have guest spots outside their confederation they typically don't send full power teams. I know USA didn't when they were in the Copa in 2007.

Yeah I think traditionally it's a youth team with a smattering of first team players

I thought that had been changing in recent times.

Watching COL-QAT with a lot of yellow jerseys around me.

Some blue and orange too

Not watching this one, just following from a distance

bit of a barmy tournament so far. highlight must be argentina sitting at the bottom of their group equal on points with qatar (who they have still to play and will almost undoubtedly defeat). uruguay and japan game ending in a 2-2 draw and venezuela holding brazil to a nil nil also quite interesting.

Brazil had three goals ruled out by VAR! The Japan result was a real shock.

I think Qatar might be pretty decent by the time of the World Cup if they continue at this rate. There is less of a reliance on naturalised Brazilians and some of their young players look quite good prospects.

i heard they were quite unlucky against columbia. only conceded in the last few minutes of regulation time

Watching the highlights from this 5-0 Brazil-Peru match.

CHEQUEO VAR

REVISIÓN VAR

Looks like maybe a handball

chile vs uruguay starts now. promises to be a good game.

alexis just tracked someone back there 0_0

hes played well so far tbf

columbia v chile in two and a half hours: colombia the best team of the tournament so far.

heart says la roja de todos, head says colombia

chile were late getting to the stadium so the game is delayed lol

oh my god, an absolute travesty of a VAR decision overturning a perfectly legal chile goal. i am fucking raging.

get VAR to fuck

ok they're VARing another definitely fine goal and if it gets chopped off i am going to literally go insane.

oh and he has, handball. for one of those daft handball nothings (guy had his arm at a 90 degree angle resting on his chest and the ball hit it and his chest without him having any chance to do anything about it

some of these haircuts are super high maintenance.

True.

I'm drunk and listening to Nueva Cancion. My dad messagd me around midnight my time because he turned his phone on when he woke up in anticipation of a message from me regarding the score.

This golden generation might just have it in them

Hope so

we weren't watching the game but then realized it was on because of being able to hear the chileans cheer.

second-half collapse by canada

Don’t you mean to post that on this thread: CONCACAF (soccer)

indeed so

Strange that Argentina was the only team that scored in the quarter finals.

Chile could definitely go all the way. Nobody has been particularly impressive.

Weird that VAR was relatively unobtrusive in 2018 World Cup and so abysmal this year. Probably due to the terrible 6/1 rule rollout that has every nothing called a handball

well that was rough.

peru beat chile 3-0 to go through to the final vs brazil (who beat argentina, likely ending lionel messi's chances of ever winning a trophy with argentina).

brazil of course beat peru 5-0 already the tournament, so, not sure the final is going to be a classic.

nice for peru tho, first final since 1975.

I didn't see this game but I did see Peru v Uruguay last weekend and would never have bet on Peru against Chile after that

Messi sent off for quite literally nothing. Game has gone. pic.twitter.com/3qyJHuXRPn

— Adam ✍🏻 (@AdamSport_) July 6, 2019

Messi and Medel sent off for chesting each other.