Tell Me About: Threesomes

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Serious replies only, please. (Yeah, like anyone will have regard for that...)

Been talking with gf about this, and we're considering at the moment. So I must ask - how does one set this up, exactly, especially if you have a particular party in mind? What possible problems should I look out for/avoid? Do you have any stories regarding this that might be helpful? Or, hell, anecdotal?

All Things Considered, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago) link

Like Marxism, it looks better on paper than in practice. Prepare ye for major emotional fallout and awkwardness if you undertake it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.threestooges.com/images/logo_ts.gif

andy, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

Those crazy npr listeners...

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

they're only fun if you don't give a shit about either one.

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link

dyson = otm.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

don't give a shit = no significant emotional attachment

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

Make sure everyone is absolutely pissed out of their minds. Or rolling. Preferably the people involved should all end up thinking it was quite funny, otherwise it can really open up hidden insecurities that consenting (or even provoking) partners didn't know they had/thought they could ignore.

webcrack (music=crack), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

Just curious, Alex and Dyson, have each of you had experience with this, or are you just passing on received knowledge (obviously this does make a difference). If the former, can you elaborate a little bit or tell a little about your experience? I just want to have some context before I make any monumentally consequential decisions, if that be the case.

All Things Considered, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

'considering'? now thats CARNAL.
"there will be tears by breakfast"

kephm, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

You watching your girl w/ another girl = Classic!

Watching her with another dude = MAJOR bummer

andy, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

Alex OTM. One caveat, though: it's seriously FUN as it's happening.

J (Jay), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

I don't really want to go into it, but suffice to say, it way, way predates me getting married (and the woman I married was not involved). It started off being a completely innocent sorta fun drunken thing....and ended up with someone writing someone else a painstakingly handwritten nine-page letter. All I would say is that MAKE SURE everyone's on the "same page" about it, so to speak.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

I think this is generally, esp. within the context of an actual RELATIONSHIP, something best left to fantasy. The complications of the reality will quickly usurp all the sexiness.

Huckadelia (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

Howso? I'm not trying not to believe you or anything, but there are a lot of assertions being thrown down, and very little explanation behind them.

All Things Considered, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, buy a large vibrating egg as a safe alternative.

kephm, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

JEALOUSY
SHAME
VINDICTIVENESS

Huckadelia (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

Well, if you engage in a threesome with someone you're in a serious relationship with, it may conjure serious feelings of doubt, guilt, suspicion or even plant the seeds (so to speak) for breaking up. It's just kinda foolhardy, I think. Also, it's hard to project how you're going to feel about things before you're in the thick of it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

Thinking about watching your girlfriend going down on someone else may seem really hot and sexy and all that, but when you actually WITNESS it, you may freak out. Or vice versa. The end results can be disastrous.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

IMHO, you can't project how you're going to feel about it until the next morning. But it wasn't me that was the problem, really.

J (Jay), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

'Like Marxism, it looks better on paper than in practice'

Plus fail to distribute goods equally and there'll be trouble.

Patrick Kinghorn, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

So this is a uniformly bad idea in any circumstances when a SO is involved?

All Things Considered, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

unless you're like middle-aged swingers.

Huckadelia (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

yes. i speak from experience.
i hadn't the slightest attachment to either girl - both were around for fun.
and fun it was.

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

Plus fail to distribute goods equally and there'll be trouble.

hahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

I really like this article about threesomes.
http://www.viceland.com/issues/v10n11/htdocs/threesomes.php

Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

Only for fun - it's not ever a good idea to be part of a couple involved, imo. As Alex said, the seeds of jealousy can be planted, and lying awake all night thinking to yourself 'I wonder if she gives better head than I do,' etc., is just seven different flavors of fucked up.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

I really think when it comes to things like this: for the couple that can make it work, more power to ya. But you're in the vast, vast minority.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

I've had loads of threesomes, with two different partners at the times - both female, one with a very strong bond, one much more casual. With the former, it was always with an extra man (I'm bi, she wasn't - and some of the men were bi, some weren't), with the latter it was mixed (always with other bisexuals, men and women). We had great times, and no bad ones, and no problems. It's important that everyone knows where they are in advance - who is bi and who isn't, for instance, and boundaries and the like. It's vital that all parties, especially the partners, are really keen - if you or your partner are doing the pushing and the other is going along with it, I'd imagine it could lead to problems.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

It's important that everyone knows where they are in advance

OTM!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

And for the record, it's not much fun to be the non-coupled party either. The only way I can conceive of this working is if, like Dyson said, no one is emotionally involved with anyone else or if everyone involved is equally emotionally involved with both of the others--unlikely.

not, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago) link

General rule: four legs good, three legs bad (unless you're into that sort of thing).

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago) link

erm..
you mean into one legged threesomes¿

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, I meant six legs good, whoops.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

wait, wait. now you're talking about a one legged six-way¿ you freak¡

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

It's horses for courses.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

There seems to be too much math involved in threesomes.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

(Assuming this is a good idea to begin with...)

Martin, what's the best way to bring it up? I don't want to ask when she's drunk, b/c I think that's a little conniving. Over a drink or two to loosen any tensions first, I wouldn't think unreasonable, though.

The thing is, my partner and I feel very comfortable with each other and we're both adventurous enough to have a serious try at it. We're also both mature enough to know to talk out insecurities as they arise instead of dwelling on them, and we both ultimately trust that if one is worried about issue A with the other and the other assures that there is no issue A happening, we believe it.

This all being said, if this simply is one of those things that doesn't really have a happy ending regardless of the above factors, I'm totally willing to let it go. I just want to be certain that that is the only viable option.

All Things Considered, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

how about a foursome? or moresome?

http://www.roberthegyes.com/gfx/kotter7.jpg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

I've had one foursome. Kind of boring, though: it just ended up with the two couples pairing off.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:35 (twenty years ago) link

I have enough issues with twosomes.

Huckadelia (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

The one time I did it, I wasn't "with" either one, there wasn't serious attachment, and it was great.

But quite honestly if you really value your relationship the risk isn't worth it, since I know a couple that was essentially broken up due in large part to a threesome. She said she resented it after the fact, because she felt like she was objectified by him during it (even though she had gone along 100% beforehand) and he felt guilty for "using" her that way, felt weird while it was happening, and felt that the "sanctity" of their relationship was shattered a little bit. I guess that's just one example though.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know how you go about asking someone. With partner 1 we went through the 'swinging' world, and with partner 2 it was again partly that, and partly people she'd had similar things with in the past - so I've never really had to approach someone else like that. It depends on your relationship with the person, I would think. I'd be inclined to bring the general subject up in conversation as a feeler, see how they react to it. Take it gently with them, I would think - well, you'll know if "Hey, fancy fucking the two of us one night?" is appropriate with that person. But it wouldn't be my approach.

Foursomes are best when all four parties are bi, I think! I don't think swapping or same room sex is the same as a foursome.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

Well, in my case, three of us were bi and one was a gay man with no interest in women. So there was a certain inevitability in how it turned out.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

Dr Alex Comfort warns that if you and your long-term partner are inviting someone in for a saucy three in a bed romp, you should watch out for mischief makers, who will make mischief in your relationship.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

"They gave each other high fives and started saying things like, ‘Oh yeah' and ‘She's liking that.'"

Oh my.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

"The trouble with threesomes is that someone usually ends up making the tea - and that someone was always me"

Marc Almond, paraphrased from memory from his biography.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

Tea baggin'?

Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

Is that really what mischief makers do - make mischief?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

talk about it for about a year first just to make sure it is not one of those, we only talk about it when we bang, sort of things. then good luck finding another single chick willing to participate.

if you do, make sure to give more lovin to the gf than not significant other.

if your gf wants a threesome with another guy...go ahead and break up now then have your threesome.

Rod Rockwell, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago) link

Obviously, it's something you need to talk and talk and talk and talk and talk about with your partner. And with the third. I've been in on some discussions with polyamorous people about this, and they usually agree that all parties do need to understand what each part of the relationship means. You and your partner both want it. If either of you are unsure, talk some more. The third needs to understand why you both want it. Also, the third should not be made to feel like a third or be objectified.

There's a whole lot of baggage here, but good luck. Maybe check out some polyamorous forums or web sites. They're generally a bit more helpful and less cheesy than swinger websites.

Wanda, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

Why do you WANT to do this? Cos you saw it on TV? Like do you think this would occur to you and be planned during another historical period? I'm not trying to criticise you, I'm just saying, think about what Plato said, or someone, in the marketplace: 'So many things I don't need'. Well maybe you should do it. It just seems a bit of a CONSTRUCTED pleasure, though. I mean if you want to do something that's on the wrong side of the tracks why don't you just go and smash a whole lot of glass bottles in the gutter together, or something, something you make up yourselves. What would I know though?

Amity (Amity), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

did you have a bad experience, amity¿

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

I think Amity has a point though... if you can't come up with a really solid reason WHY you want to do something, then it's likely you don't HAVE to do it.

Given the general agreement around here that threesomes are potentially hazardous to relationships, I'd say asking yourself why you want to do it is pretty important.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:43 (twenty years ago) link

My friend who had a threesome said he wouldn't recommend having one with a significant other, because while it was a good idea beforehand in his mind, it sure wasn't in retrospect. He says if he would do it now, he would just hire out a couple of expensive escorts and do it that way.

I'm not saying it wouldn't work out of course but there are risks, and if you're deep into a committed relationship it doesn't seem like it would be worth it.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

it is fun only if-
-everyone knows it is just pure hedonism
-the guy can get both girls off, not just one of them

if so, a fantastic experience
if not, a waste of time

voice, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:35 (twenty years ago) link

overrated.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

This is one of those things that possibly works best if you and your partner are gay men.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:50 (twenty years ago) link

That said, Martin is the most OTM, Amity is off for thinking this is some recent phenomenon or desire, and you do it because otherwise it's hard to have both your nipples nibbled on at once.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

unless of course you have recently given birth to twins.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:45 (twenty years ago) link

or are sleeping with zaphod beeblebrox

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:45 (twenty years ago) link

I thought those exceptions were implied.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:49 (twenty years ago) link

"if your gf wants a threesome with another guy...go ahead and break up now then have your threesome."

Hahahaha.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 07:01 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously though unless you both (emphasize BOTH) aspire to be swingers this is really a bad idea for couples (and if you both aspire to be swingers, well good luck with that, cuz I have met exactly ZERO sane swinging couples--never met ya Martin, sorry if you are normal--and I'm pretty convinced that swinging couples have the exactly the same insecurities that non-swinging couples do, but due to their particular sexual relationship those insecurities just tend to fester and manifest themselves in increasingly bizarre ways.) It's fine for completely unattached single folk and a lot gay men seem to have it all figured out, but I'd tend to agree with Jess, it's pretty overrated.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 07:14 (twenty years ago) link

It's no more overrated than regular two-person sex. If you're into both the people, at least.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 08:55 (twenty years ago) link

It's fine if you're not attached to either of the other parties. The idea of the emotional fallout from indulging with my current g/f makes me somewhat uneasy. But then again, she's MINE! ALL MINE!

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't want to share my boy with anyone. I cannot even imagine how much it would f@#k up our emotions & definitely end our relationship.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:12 (twenty years ago) link

What threesome overatington said.

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:27 (twenty years ago) link

I had the opportunity for it twice in my life, freaked out both times and couldn't go through with it. Both times it was two girls and me. Sure its a dream come true but when its time to get busy and attempt to satisfy two girls, forget it.

I love from butter pecan to blackberry molass'
I don't discriminate, I regulate every shade of that *ass*
Long as you show class, and pass my test
Fat *fuckin* breasts, highly intelligent bachlorettes
That's the best, I won't settle for less
I wanna get a brunette, with unforgettable sex
I lay your head on my chest, come feel my heartbeat
We can park the Jeep, pump Mobb Deep, and just spark the leaf
It's hard to creep since I found Joe
Every pretty round brown *hoe* wanna go down low
But this Boogie Down pro-fessional, I'ma let you know
Once I quit the blows, get your clothes, cause you got to go
out the do' downstairs, little brown hairs everywhere
(You nasty Twin) I don't care
Round here they call me Big Pun,
Hit you with the big guns
Big tongue, known to make a chick *cum*

Chris V (Chris V), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

I thought it was "I can go downstairs" i.e. oral sex! Why she thinks that's nasty though is beyond me.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

I think you have to decided if this is, like amity said, something you want to do because it's chic and seemingly glamorous or if this is really a sexual thing that you and your gf are both into...not just a one-off. if you're both into it...then cool. i've met some sane poly folk although i don't think it's the lifestyle for me. swingers are a bit different in that they have less of an emotional connection with their lovers. hmmm.

oh and sorry for butting in again and again w/o introducing myself!

Wanda (Wanda), Thursday, 5 February 2004 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

if there is a baldwin involved, run for your life. If lara flynn boyle is involved, please consider.

queen G (nee Onassis), Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

hi geoff!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:31 (twenty years ago) link

Many of the swingers I've known were very happily married (as far as I could see) couples. There are crazy people in that world, but like anything else you pick and choose who you get involved with with some care, and I don't think it's any harder finding the sane and pleasant ones than in any other realm or relationships.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

Dr Alex Comfort on the money about third parties being mischief-makers who make mischief. And Vice magazine on the money about threesomes.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

In a broke down SUUUBARUUU.

Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

Back when I was a free agent, I somehow ended up in tons of threesomes and it was always super fun. The secret (as others have said) is to never actually be 'involved' with anyone you're getting down with. While most of the people I hooked up with were single as well, there was a married couple that I met up with a few times. The only awkward moment was the time that the wife and I were chatting at a party and she claimed that I was in love with her husband. Since I only put up with the husband so that I could hang out with her, nothing could have been further from the truth. By the end of the conversation, she understood that I wasn't carrying a torch for her husband, but I never let on that she was the main attraction as far as I was concerned. Not all third parties are mischief makers. They issued the invitation(s), I accepted, and that was it.

This was all long ago, and I've been with the same person for the last three years (and very happily so). While the threesomes were a blast, I don't miss them at all.

Chris K, Saturday, 7 February 2004 04:39 (twenty years ago) link

hi Chris K!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Saturday, 7 February 2004 07:38 (twenty years ago) link

Right back at ya Mr. Matos!

Chris K (suzy), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, here's my couple o' cents on the topic: TALK. TALK. TALK. One-on-one and all of you together. The initiating couple (if the arrangement is of a couple seeking to bring in someone else) needs to examine why they want to do this and then look at their reasons and decide if that's reason enough to take it from a fantasy to a reality.

You also need to look at and discuss all of the possible negative outcomes of the experience - don't think "well, we're not the jealous types" and leave it at that - you don't know how jealous or insecure or uncomfortable you might be until you're in the situation. How will you address these issues if they come-up in the middle of three of you frolicking around? How will you address them afterward?

You might want to consider (since you're coming from the "couple" end of things) setting some ground rules about what can and can't be done (I know that lots of people feel more secure if there are certain activities that are reserved for just the couple - like oral sex or whatever - something that shows that there's a bond between the two of you and that you're not going to share that with someone else). However, if you do choose to set such a restriction, you need to make that clear to the third person, so they don't overstep that boundary.

As far as bringing-up the topic with this other person, I'd recommend a public, though quiet, location - don't do it at yours or their house, as if there's a negative reaction, you're going to associate that with the place where it happened - you don't want them to always feel uncomfortable about coming to your house or you visting at their place. Depending on the dynamics, if this third person is closer to one of the partners than the other, the initial suggestion might be better brought-up with just the two of them, before the group discussion begins. (Oh, and as far as where to actually have the sex goes, you might want to think about some neutral place, so that if it is a negative experience the "marriage bed", so to speak, isn't associated with that.)

When it's the three of you talking, make sure that you're not all intoxicated or otherwise under the influence - you have to all have clear heads and minds. And, like it or not, you need to talk about some pretty uncomfortable things, like birth control, and STDs, and past partners, besides addressing all of the emotional issues. Make sure that during all of this you're not pairing off as two against one, which it can sometimes feel like is happening - this isn't a tag-team event, it's a sharing of something intimate and fun between three equals. Be sure to talk about limits and likes and dislikes (really, it's best not to have decided that anal sex will only happen between the couple and then to be in bed and suddenly discover that the third person only likes anal sex - or can't stand to watch it or think about it).

The three of you also need to talk about what happens afterward - do you all spend the night together? Or does someone leave? When do you all talk about what happened? If it doesn't go well, do you agree that you'll talk about what went wrong? If it goes great, when will you talk about that?

Don't have unrealistic expectations about the actual event - it's confusing, you'll end-up in uncomfortable (physical) positions, and there may be times where someone feels left out, because the other two are caught-up in each other. And you know how tough it can be to have mutual orgasms? Three of you coming at once - well, it can happen, but I think that's more of a fluke or a result of lots and lots of (fun) practice. It's not all going to be perfect and wonderful - the fantasy is never the reality - but the reality can exceed the fantasy, if everything goes well. Or maybe you'll need to do it a few times to learn what works and doesn't work.

A threesome can be incredible - physically and emotionally - it can bring people together and provide greater intimacy - it can strengthen bonds - it can be an excellent thing. But it can also be painful, emotionally destructive, dividing, and alienating. Ultimately, no matter how much you prepare for things, you won't know how you feel about it all until it's happening. (And you may discover that the negative emotions arise sometime after the incident, too.)

Talk and talk and talk. Have a sense of humor. Make sure that you all like each other (being physically attracted to someone isn't enough). Don't take yourself too seriously. Be open. Be honest. Admit your fears and concerns. Talk about your hopes and wishes, too. If you're at all uncertain, then don't do it. If you are certain that it's something that the three of you want, then go for it, with open minds and hearts and a resolve that no matter what happens, you're going to work through the after-effects together.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 7 February 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not sure what sort of discussions (if any) my married couple had, but they're still the picture of wedded bliss more than a decade later. Can't say the same of everyone I ended up with, though. Though I didn't find out about it until a couple of years after the fact, one couple ended up getting divorced because the woman came to the conclusion that she had been a lesbian her whole life but just didn't know it until then.

I stick by the idea that threesomes are best made up of three independents versus a couple plus one. While the later version can work out ok depending on the people involved, it is much more likely to backfire.

Chris K (suzy), Saturday, 7 February 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

Agreed with the "talk talk talk" crowd. If you think it might be a good idea or a bad idea, but are not sure, IT IS A BAD IDEA. If you're all agreed, while sober, that it's a good idea, and are willing to talk about it until it's well & truly worked out (this may not take long, but it may), then it probably is a good idea (and, yes, "worth it"). The "couple + 1" formulation has the additional risk of jealousy, which makes it extra-important to set limits in advance, but the additional benefit that it's a lot more clear how everyone's supposed to feel about/act toward everyone else afterwards.

orange twig (Douglas), Saturday, 7 February 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

I think that the odds of a threesome (or any other sexual encounter) being a positive thing is based on the personalities involved and the comfort level of all: if they're not all able to talk, then it's much more risky. I don't think that anyone can say "this is a good thing" or "this is a bad thing." It works for some, in some situations, and not for others in other situations.

I don't know if it's better to have it be a couple and then a third person or three individual people - it's based on personalities and compatabilities, and I think that the odds of something working or not working are probably close - but that the ramifications of the working/not working could be more wide-reaching if two of the participants are a couple.

I've been in threesomes in both situations, and I can't say that either situation was particularly more successful or easy than the other - again, it's personalities and the situation at the time.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 7 February 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Anyone been involved in these lately?

(Sniffs) Just asking.

Curiouser, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Not recently. But I always found them overrated not in an emotional sense but in a technical-physical sense. Even with emotionally uninvolved people one doesn't want to make one person feel left out, so there's a lot of somewhat forced rearrangements. It's too much thinking basically with the usual end result of a menage a blah.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

All that advice on "talking it out" sounds like the worst thing ever. Who wants to have long, boring-assed conversations with you SO and some dude/chick about how you might or might not do it and how weird it may or may not be?

This is why threesomes don't work.

sugarpants: sadness is for poor people! (sugarpants), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Really you just have to all be into it, or yeah there's no point. Drunkenness doesnt always help either, as one rather failed attempt that left me feeling nothing but sordid taught me.

(one other time was fun, but hey)

Trr4aayceeOMG (trayce), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:47 (eighteen years ago) link

five years pass...

this is one of those things that deserves all the hype, imo.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 31 March 2011 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

*sings* we know what you've been dooooo-iiiiing...

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Thursday, 31 March 2011 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link

just wanted to disagree with all the naysayers in the clusterfuck thread. Threesomes are worth the effort!

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 31 March 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

tmi bomb: my gf mentioned that she had one of these in college with another girl and a 'random guy'... and as someone who was never really able to manage to score random hookups ever, let alone more than one simultaneously, (and also as someone who has very very often fantasized about this sort of encounter), the thought of it is just seriously, nonstop haunting me since she mentioned it. i've become more depressed than i've been since high school, and i can hardly look at her and keep it together, i'm just constantly distracted by the idea of it. i feel like any attempt to talk through my feelings with her would turn into shitty emotional manipulation of one sort or another. and i don't think i should even want to try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into, with a number of boundaries) because i feel like even in the best case scenario, i'd find some reason to be disappointed that it isn't the same as the kind of freewheeling, no-strings hookup that she (well honestly, that 'random guy') had. i don't want to blame her or accost her for her sexual past, it's her life and her business and i understand that this is more of a deep insecurity thing that is my problem, not hers..... but i just can't seem to get over it. it's been almost a week since we talked and it's still literally the only thing i seem to be capable of thinking about when i'm not occupied by doing something. why is this such a big deal? ugh :(

blogged out, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

Been a long time since we had a properly done logged out post. Well done

, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

huh

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

wb deems

imago, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

i've become more depressed than i've been since high school, and i can hardly look at her and keep it together

Your reaction to this is pretty extreme. I mean - how long ago was this? Actually that doesn't really matter because you're right, it's her life and her past and your reaction to this has nothing to do with her and everything to do with your own insecurities and issues.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

x-post - lol

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

you are probably imagining this other guy as some sort of stud who managed to not only score this fantasy but did so with your now-gf. Probably best to imagine him saying something like "could you both suck my balls?" and him not being able to enjoy the threesome bc he hears that echoing in his head. Sorry if you're actually the balls echo guy.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

hable con ella blogged out

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

talk to her, it will help

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

and if it is a fantasy of yours and she seems open to it, talk about it!

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

you are probably imagining this other guy as some sort of stud who managed to not only score this fantasy but did so with your now-gf. Probably best to imagine him saying something like "could you both suck my balls?" and him not being able to enjoy the threesome bc he hears that echoing in his head. Sorry if you're actually the balls echo guy.

― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:27 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM - imagine this 'random guy' as http://i.imgur.com/0WjXjRq.jpg instead

, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

yeah no need to get pre-emptively Prufrockian about it

the HegeMony Mony Chant thread in the Most Read Threads List (sarahell), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

Or maybe you are http://i.imgur.com/0WjXjRq.jpg? That's tough shit, man

, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

lol

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

Well, while I sort of wonder why she mentioned it to you (unless you were having one of those conversations where you tell each other about your experiences, or you specifically asked her if it had ever happened), I agree that the insecurity here is on you, and that you can't hold her sexual past against her. But there's also no use in feeling guilty about feeling insecure, that's just a double-whammy of insecurity. I think it's natural for someone in your position to feel some insecurity about this. Honestly, I think everyone probably feels at least some insecurity about their partner's sexual past. You can't help but wonder at some point -- were they better than me? More exciting? Does she think about them? And there's just some primal, possessive instinct in there too, no matter how "enlightened" we think we are. I hate the kind of rhetoric that makes you feel like you're some kind of illiberal cretin for having any jealous feelings.

And with you, the feelings are especially strong because you didn't have "random hookups" as you say, so I can see how it would play on you from multiple angles: guessing you're afraid that the 'random guy' must have had some kind of sexual dynamism that you lack, since she was willing to "randomly" hook up with him but, you are presuming, wouldn't have done so with you, since you're not the kind of guy that could score "random" hookups. Of course, you don't actually know that any of this is true -- random hookups can very much just be a matter of circumstances. Maybe the girl was her good friend and the girl pressured her into it. Or maybe the guy was even kind of hot. Hot enough that she "randomly" hooked up with him. Once. A long time ago. So is that guy really a threat? She's with you.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

iirc you propose a threesome with her and your comic book artist best friend? and then you all stop talking to each other forever. gl

max, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

no offence threesh & I try not to indulge in the kind of condescending tough love these advice threads invite but your whole deal here is incredibly immature as I'm sure you're well aware

if I'm understanding your (well, honestly) aside I'd suggest that sort of thinking is indicative of the problem

why do I hate that thing (excluding imago, marcos) (wins), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

you crazy kids should invite hurting to be your third

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

would it be different if it were a freewheeling twosome

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

As much as reflecting insecurity, I imagine the pain is coming from hearing about this and not having had the opportunity himself. It may not be insecurity about the present as much as hurt from wanting this and not having had it, and hearing about it from the present monogamous sexual partner. If there were some safe way to get the experience, the hurt and resentment and especially the preoccupation could go away.

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

3some angst = humblebrag/champagne probs

Brio2, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

I've also come to think tendency toward "random hookups" is more about temperament than attractiveness. Maybe it's just not your personality! Again, your gf is with you, there must be some reason for that.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

also it sounds like she and her friend just felt curious/like experimenting?

sounds like you're projecting your own fantasies onto this dude maybe it'll help to realize that other dudes j/o to your gf like 12 times a day

xp

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into
try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into
try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into
try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into
try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into
try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into

champagne probs for realz

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

bustamove.gif

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

B O maybe the question is do you think it's better to have a fantasy that consumes you or is it better to live the fantasy and deflate it and to never dream for ever

, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

Maybe ur also imagining that *the kind of guy* who could have a threesome with your girlfriend AND another woman must have had the virility of two men and you're afraid that if you try it you won't measure up. And that's silly. Which is not to say you should try a threesome, but that's not a good reason not to.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

did someone say threesome

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

I mean, if your gal talked about a mango she ate and you lived in a place with no mangos and you were in the past preoccupied with the potential taste of mango, you might get preoccupied and hurt by your gal's mango story.

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

but yea eazy otm, this is definitely about your own history. i was pretty much a shy dude throughout high school and college and even though i had some adventures and various partners i've never really been someone who succeeded (or even tried that much) w/ random hookups. i also have been in the same monogamous relationship since i was 21. there was a lot of work i had to do to figure out shit about my sexuality and sexual history and how it played out in other areas of my life, and whether i had regrets about that or not, and whether there is anything i can do about it now to own it. you got to own that shit and own your feelings about it. depression from a partner's past revelation can hurt but really you can use it to teach/inspire yourself about changing how you relate to your sexuality.

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

but if your gal said "hey, i'd be down to get some mangos, with some boundaries - they have to be safe mangos" then maybe you should take her up on that?

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

dying here @ mangos tbh

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

The issue here is that the man goes to a threesome but poor blogged out can't

, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

I mean, if your gal talked about a mango she ate and you lived in a place with no mangos and you were in the past preoccupied with the potential taste of mango, you might get preoccupied and hurt by your gal's mango story.

what about madeleines?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

i feel like any attempt to talk through my feelings with her would turn into shitty emotional manipulation of one sort or another

This is the bit you should be worried about. It doesn't sound like you're going to berate her for her past so what you're fearing is being honest with her about your own emotions - if you're worried about this turning into emotional manipulation then there's a more fundamental communication problem here.

Will help/feel less manipulative if you take the option of a threesome with her + someone else off the table entirely? Because I think you should do that.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

interestingly, mangos is almost what u get when u cross me with marcos

imago, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

What if she told you she salt and peppered her mango?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

unconscionable realms of metaphor

imago, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

blogged out is M.I.A.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

fwiw if this is treesh I'm gonna devote my entire postcount to wins (I am saying that it isn't btw)

imago, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

Now imagine that she shared this ripe, juicy mango with another.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

mangoes in two, a bore?

why do I hate that thing (excluding imago, marcos) (wins), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link

what if all the mangoes were rotten

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link

man why is everybody trying to talk him out of having some mangos? she said she likes mangos, and how exactly mangos would work for her, and he says he's been thinking about mangos for years.

Brio2, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link

acknowledging your own ego issues and understanding how much sex-related judgments stem from ghosts of stupid awful body-hating xian morality (and addressing those judgments) really opens up worlds of opportunities and freedom ime/imo. i guess it's different in str8 relationships cuz there's so much damn panopticism from others abt what is acceptable whereas gays are already marginalized by the center and hence are more free abt some things but even there those kinds of judgments enter in.

dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

Xps I just liked the sound of "threesh" I don't think these things overmuch

why do I hate that thing (excluding imago, marcos) (wins), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

acknowledging your own ego issues and understanding how much sex-related judgments stem from ghosts of stupid awful body-hating xian morality (and addressing those judgments) really opens up worlds of opportunities and freedom ime/imo.

otm

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

i was gonna say something but i'm not sure if it has to be about mangoes and i've lost track of where we are in the mango analogy

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

some mangos are bad, they can be very stringy and fibrous

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

is this about fucking mangoes

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

i can't fit two mangoes on my dick :(

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

some are delicious and creamy and rich. think what blogged out is saying in part is the he is scared of getting a stringy and fibrous mango

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

I spent a lot of time agonizing over why I didn't have "random hookups" much in college before it occurred to me one day that I didn't try for them very much.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

i can't fit two mangoes on my dick :(

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Perhaps you would be interested in the grapefruit blow job instead http://www.refinery29.com/2014/07/70993/grapefruit-blowjob-sex-advice

, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link

The sour green mangos you get in Thai salads are so good & somehow not stringy & fibrous at all

Before I had them I thought no-strings fruit was a male fantasy

why do I hate that thing (excluding imago, marcos) (wins), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

clouds' post descends with righteous mango-puréeing force and I hope inspires blogged out to achieve consommétion

imago, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

blogged out is M.I.A.

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:09 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes where are you dude?

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

hot chick waiting iirc

why do I hate that thing (excluding imago, marcos) (wins), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

oh ha just got that, don't know if it was a deliberate joke or not

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

Clouds otm of course, but I wonder how much of bo's frustration is rooted in "I want this thing" vs. "I wish I had the agency to achieve this thing with my good looks and charming wit alone".

mango unchained (fgti), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link

i've been in several threesomes and a couple foursomes and have had both incredible and horrible experiences, and sometimes even w/ the same partners involved. idk it's just a thing that gets hypostatized as some wild experience.

dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

The sour green mangos you get in Thai salads are so good & somehow not stringy & fibrous at all

It could get expensive, but these too might give closure.

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link

B O maybe the question is do you think it's better to have a fantasy that consumes you or is it better to live the fantasy and deflate it and to never dream for ever

― 龜, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:56 (1 hour ago)

married folk give my friend your advice (started by Bo Jackson Overdrive on board I Love Everything on 24-Jan-2008)

disconnected externalized and unrecognizable signifying structure (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link

As long as your gf isn't pining for his dick or saying it was great or hot or anything NOW, after she has been with you, I'd say it's just best to move on.

*tera, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

wb deems

― imago, Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:22 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lel

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link

yo, blogged, serious q, do you or have you had other obsessive thoughts abt things?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

hi, sorry for taking so long to respond, lost my passsword for this acct

thanks you all for taking to time to converse about this in a way i've found very helpful, i have found some solace and understanding in some of these replies (btw, lol at "threesh", also, no) i fully realize any problem i'm facing relating to this is really nothing more than a result of depression; my thoughts are the only thing that's changed as a result of that conversation we had. anyway reading all the replies and spending a pleasant day with my girl have eased my mind a little. i haven't wanted to actually have some big deep conversation about this because she has finals this week and has been studying rorshach test administration like crazy. (i've been helping her with this and reading about other people's pathologies, or just pathology in general, also helps ease my mind sometimes) she has her last test today and i might talk with her more tonite about this if i can't stop dwelling on it. but i think that the best thing to do is probably just get over it and drop it one way or another.

i should have asked the question "should i talk to a therapist (though i don't go to therapy) about this before i talk to her?", i think that's really what i meant to ask.

some replies:

is that guy really a threat? She's with you.

i don't feel threatened in my relationship at all, my gf is more in love with me than anyone i've dated (and likewise me to her), i am just sinking into this rabbithole of regrets about my life experiences.

would it be different if it were a freewheeling twosome

i mean, yeah. i've mostly come to accept the fact that people hook up all the time and i am not one of those people. it's a little different when it intersects with a fantasy like this i think. it's something i've always thought of as inconceivable for me...

but if your gal said "hey, i'd be down to get some mangos, with some boundaries - they have to be safe mangos" then maybe you should take her up on that?

i think a big part of why i'm distraught in my contemplating this is that i think actually trying to do this now would be a bad idea in our relationship. we're both kind of insecure, it's not just me, and we have a very strong intimacy going that we both enjoy. but the alternative for me seems to be dropping the idea of it, and then dwelling on it forever...?

i feel like any attempt to talk through my feelings with her would turn into shitty emotional manipulation of one sort or another

This is the bit you should be worried about. It doesn't sound like you're going to berate her for her past so what you're fearing is being honest with her about your own emotions - if you're worried about this turning into emotional manipulation then there's a more fundamental communication problem here.

Will help/feel less manipulative if you take the option of a threesome with her + someone else off the table entirely? Because I think you should do that.

yeah, i think you nailed the issue i'm having. i don't want to talk about it because i'm scared she would want to agree to it for the wrong reasons, and we would be hit with a harder wave of emotions to deal with. i'm trying to imagine a conversation where i talk through the thoughts i'm having and then say, 'but let's not do this because it would be bad probably' without being at least a little disingenuous

acknowledging your own ego issues and understanding how much sex-related judgments stem from ghosts of stupid awful body-hating xian morality (and addressing those judgments) really opens up worlds of opportunities and freedom ime/imo. i guess it's different in str8 relationships cuz there's so much damn panopticism from others abt what is acceptable whereas gays are already marginalized by the center and hence are more free abt some things but even there those kinds of judgments enter in.

this reads like a good post but it isn't connecting with me for some reason... surely the majority of the reasons i am fixated on this are social rather than sexual or personal, but that doesn't seem to matter in my head right now.

blogged out is M.I.A.

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:09 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes where are you dude?
my bad, re-registering another account after losing my pass for this one was something i could not manage to do in the window of time i had to post about this last night.

Clouds otm of course, but I wonder how much of bo's frustration is rooted in "I want this thing" vs. "I wish I had the agency to achieve this thing with my good looks and charming wit alone".

when i read this i thought "YES, dude gets it". then i rethought that for a second and i'm like, ok, i guess what i'm experiencing is textbook entitlement. but yeah, even if i come to terms with the idea that i'm not that guy, it is such a fascinating, mind-fucking mystery how things like this occur to me. i'm scared to ask her for more details, but i feel like i need to know how it happened, like this will shine a light on some aspect of human interaction that i've always felt alien to?

idk it's just a thing that gets hypostatized as some wild experience.

well if it isn't, what is? (will not be asking my gf this, for all i know this is the tip of the iceberg. she went to U$F ffs and i know she was pretty much living that WOO COLLEGE party lifestyle for those years.)
i'm just stupid jealous that i was going to nerdy art rock shows and studiously avioding talking to girls at that point in my life (and most points in my life).

yo, blogged, serious q, do you or have you had other obsessive thoughts abt things?

i don't think i've ever latched onto something like this badly, but i definitely have the tendency to internalize things/emotions/desires and never act on them. isn't that normal? i dunno

oh yeah meant to mention somewhere in this post that i'm 29 and she's 25. maybe this is just typical mid/late 20's shit. probably it is.

thanks again guys for engaging with my immaturity, it's always better letting this bullshit out into the open.

blogged out vi, Thursday, 20 November 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link

go to a therapist yes, also if you already know you are depressed.

a total laugh package (s.clover), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link

I went back-and-forth between this thread and the Cosby thread too quickly and thought someone was giving you the advice

if you are rich and famous ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE WILL HAVE SEX WITH YOU!! like, millions of people! for free! even weird dangerous sex or any kind of sex you can think of. people will actually let you drug them and have sex with them if you are rich and famous enough!!!

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

lol same exact thing happened to me

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link

i should have asked the question "should i talk to a therapist (though i don't go to therapy) about this before i talk to her?", i think that's really what i meant to ask.

yes

mattresslessness, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link

@ boiv no I don't think it's textbook entitlement. I have had the experience (despite being a reasonably attractive human) that it is Impossible For My Human Mind To Get It that that my own attractiveness is something that would cause another human to respond to. (A friend or two have looked at uglykid photos of me and been like "oh I get it! I get why you're like this!")

My current 11+ year LTR was borne out of "huh?" like there is somebody who's interested in me? and any further interest expressed by third parties has been laced with the feeling that there must be something wrong with this person for them. to be interested. in me.

So yeah I was curious if your situation might be similar, that you're in a happy relationship, but that you can't help but feel a latent desire toward reinforcement-of-self-worth, that having a second woman express that desire toward you, that might be the cause of your frustration.

I don't know what it's like for MFF but MMM threesomes are only fun for the LTR in that you're "shaking things up", ime. Weird unexpected things, remembering that bodies can behave in other ways. I don't think there is any nirvana that can be achieved in having a mouth around each ball (though research persists)

mango unchained (fgti), Friday, 21 November 2014 01:04 (nine years ago) link

At last he smiled with embarrassment and said that his wife had once gone to college and eaten mango there, and she often told him about it, and he would have to say the happiest moment of his life was her trip, and the eating of the mango.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

I don't think there is any nirvana that can be achieved in having a mouth around each ball (though research persists)

beautiful, <3 u fgti

sleeve, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link

ps regarding the OP, my limited experience is 50/50 good/bad out of the two times I've tried it

sleeve, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link

in each case, right ball good, left ball bad

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link

i have always been bad at sex jokes (and all other jokes). carry on!

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link

are you sex at bad jokes?

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link

i think within a one-week window in middle school i said "what is a boner?" in front of 75+ students in orchestra rehearsal, and then got punked by some kid who asked me if i knew what spooning was and then proceeded to give me an incorrect definition of spooning

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:56 (nine years ago) link

Plenty of people never had a threesome, been invited to one or were interested in one but have had plenty of other sexual experiences. It never appealed to me... Taurus, INFJ I don't know. There have been times when it was suggested and I turned red both times and just sort of...left. When I hear about someone who fell in love and got married in their twenties and have been happily married 15-20 years by now, I always wonder what if I just had just not been who I was for twenty years. Pointless to go down that road. If you feel this is gnawing at you, best talk to a therapist. Don't ask for details it's all rumination. Totally think what you were doing was cooler. If it's any consolation I didn't see nearly enough shows and I have no degree. Both trump a threesome with a random in my elder opinion.

*tera, Friday, 21 November 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link

The number of people I know who have engaged in threesomes just keeps getting larger, and it continues to blow my mind.

Eric H., Friday, 21 November 2014 06:59 (nine years ago) link

Oh no wait, that's not my mind.

Eric H., Friday, 21 November 2014 06:59 (nine years ago) link

Ha!

*tera, Friday, 21 November 2014 07:17 (nine years ago) link

been holding out for insurance/ job. It's the first time in my life that I am not getting jobs I apply too. That rejection has been hard as well. Find myself reading astrologyzone several times a month. Grasping. I did do some counseling through a woman's organization recently but felt the counselor wasn't getting my issues. She was a bit too aggressive for me and I sort of felt steamrolled by her ideas of me. But was that impression real or just part of my depression? Things have gone a bitower since then. Amazing what a little insurance could do. Looked into Obamacate and uh.....that won't work for me. I actually had a a small meltdown over that because for weeks I thought that would solve everything.

*tera, Friday, 21 November 2014 07:23 (nine years ago) link

And that should go on another thread.

*tera, Friday, 21 November 2014 07:24 (nine years ago) link

sounds sexy tho!

mango unchained (fgti), Friday, 21 November 2014 07:45 (nine years ago) link

insurance job > [redacted]

Mark G, Friday, 21 November 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link

TMI: Too Much Insurance

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 21 November 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

Threesomes are like eating 1/4 of a cake in one sitting: awesome in the moment and rich with that delicious "I can't believe I'm actually doing this!" feeling of transgression and then it's over and you feel uncomfortable and a little shamed and also you have diabetes.

for more fun visit www.combos.com (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 November 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

found out from a mutual friend that this radical couple in our college activist group was interested in having a threesome with me. they were really intense and often caustic anarchist types that intimidated the other activists, but they were always really really sweet to me and then i found out the likely reason why. i was kind of shocked since i was just this naive freshman and didn't expect many people to be interested in me. not sure if i would have done it though - it was rumored that the guy in the couple had his dick pierced and that doesn't interest me at all.

marcos, Friday, 21 November 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

it all depends on the three

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 21 November 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

*tera's story above built up so much tension and suspense.

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Friday, 21 November 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

Coincidental FB update from a friend:
It's so cold hell has frozen over. The only possible explanation for me eating a mango.

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Friday, 21 November 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

the warmth of cuddling up with a mango or two

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 21 November 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

There's this weird delusion that str8 guys have, that when a MFF threesome occurs, it is somehow all about the super-studly babe-attracting powers of the M in the equation. Of the MFF threesomes I've had, and all the women I've talked to about random hookup threesomes, 3 times out of 4, the threesome is actually about the ~bi-curious~ (or just plain bi) desires of the women involved, and the dude involved is pretty incidental / really only there as an excuse or cover to try out lady-love.

(Long term couples I have no experience with, but others' experience indicates 50/50?)

But if you are a dude asking yourself "why am I not the kind of guy who gets to have threesomes?" it is way less about you, and way more about the women you know.

TL; DR there's no guy in threesome.

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Friday, 21 November 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

i know one (1) guy who is in a literal polyamorous relationship with two girls (all three dating each other etc) and he is a person who once yelled at me for saying "dice" when referring to a singular die

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 21 November 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

Beer and pot make the threesome more casual.

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link


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