The Archers (Powell & Pressburger): S/D

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Can the Brits on this board tell me a bit about The Archers? Because gol'darn A Canterbury Tale is a rich and strange film.... And yet, I feel there's something in it, something profound, that I can sense but not fully appreciate as yet.... Something British perhaps.

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 19 June 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"Pity..."

"Pity?"

"Pity when you get home and people ask you what you've seen in England and you say, 'I saw a movie in Salisbury... and I made a pilgrimage to Canterbury and saw another one.'"

"You've got me all wrong. I know that in Canterbury I have to look out for a cathedral."

"Do look out for it. It's just behind the movie theater, you can't miss it."

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 19 June 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

ARCHERS OF LOAF, FOOL!

sorry

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 19 June 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, on first view of A Canterbury Tale I couldn't quite get past the little-of-consequence-happening aspect (I'm not British). There's probably something more to it. I'd like an explanation too in fact. Search A Matter of Life and Death anyway, and Colonel Blimp. I Know where i'm going is pretty uneventful too, but has a bit more engaging social intercourse.

, Saturday, 19 June 2004 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I love P&P. Search The Red Shoes. In some moods at least I think this is the *Best Film Ever Made*.

I loved A Canterbury Tale but I've only seen it once & long ago so cannot be too helpful about it. I'm not sure that there is anything profound underlying its mysticism but it is quintessentially English and beautifully done. I need to see this film again, it's the only major Archers film I haven't seen several times and I suspect it'd be at least my second favourite.

A Matter of Life and Death, Peeping Tom (not Pressburger, from memorty) and Black Narcissus all excellent, but I've never managed to get much enthusiasm up for Colonel Blimp despite it probably being regarded as among their best (if not their best?).

frankiemachine, Saturday, 19 June 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Does the version you saw start with pilgrims heading for Canterbury, or on top of a skyscraper, with a GI telling the story in flashback, amateurist? I've never seen the latter, American cut, but it sounds like it spoils things rather.

I admire it most for its beautiful, and somewhat eerie evocation of a centuries-old way of English life.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

The BFI gives a fair summary of the film, I think.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

The Life And Death Of Colonel Blimp is among my all-time favourite films, even ahead of A Matter Of Life And Death. Their films are full of stunning imagery that looks like nothing else ever (think heaven in A Matter Of, tolling the bell in Black Narcissus, lots in the red Shoes and so on), and really interesting things to say about people.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 19 June 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw the english version, on an english dvd (here! here!)

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 19 June 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I dare someone to find a firm one to destroy. Yes, there are films that are weaker than others, but I'll gladly watch any of them any day.

I saw Jack Cardiff a few weeks ago, and he told some great stories. And apparently Michael Powell loved almost every suggestion that he got from people. "Wonderful! Let's do it!" or something to that effect - he said exactly the same phrase every time.

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 19 June 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought jack cardiff died several years ago! hence the "red shoes" tribute at the oscars.

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 19 June 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Not only is he not dead, but he's still active!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002153/

Anyway, no, that wasn't a death tribute - that was the prelude to his Honorary Oscar. (Which, IIRC, is the only honorary one ever awarded to a technician.)

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I Know Where I'm Going and The Spy In Black have both been on tv here in the last couple of months. Great shots of wilds of Scotland in both (and the grumpy scotsman from Dad's Army turns up in the former). the latter has a great twist in it.

am hoping A Canterbury Tale gets a repeat shortly (the ch4 matinees seem to repeat on a yearly basis - things are turning up again now that i watched this time last year, The Spy In Black being one of them).

Red Shoes was on in the last month or so too but i think i was helping hopkins move house.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 21 June 2004 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Here I sit, shocked that Black Narcissus hasn't come up.

Lee G (Lee G), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

It has twice already.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 21 June 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Ack.

Lee G (Lee G), Monday, 21 June 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
next week, bbc2 (UK) has:

monday 19th 13:15: the elusive pimpernel
tuesday 20th 13:00: a canterbury tale
thursday 22nd 13:20: ill met by moonlight

koogs (koogs), Friday, 16 July 2004 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
season at nft presently (billed 'michael powell', i think duuuuuuh). i'm seeing 'contraband' tonight.

N_RQ, Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link

In addition to all the obvious ones, The Small Back Room is a nice tense b&w psychodrama/romance/thriller, and Tales of Hoffman is watchable tho not my cup of High Music tea. And that WW2 film where Olivier is a Canuck fur trapper -- the 49th Parallel?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

'small back room' is GRATE.

N_RQ, Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

'contraband' is GREATE.

Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Sunday, 14 August 2005 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Also see: 'I know where I'm going'.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 14 August 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

What everybody said. But

Destroy: Powell's autobiography, rivaled only by Isaac Asimov's in length and tediousness.

The Pressburger bio that came out several years back was pretty good though. Maybe the guy who wrote it was his nephew or grandson?

And has anybody seen any of Powell's quota quickies? I have this strange memory of being in a hotel and a movie called something like Rynox came on the television and then it said "Directed by Michael Powell," but I had to go out so I didn't watch it. The beginning was nothing special.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 14 August 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think powell 'counts' any of his films pre-'edge of the world', but 'rynox' is his earliest surviving film. the pressburger book is indeed by his grandson, who i think is kevin macdonald, who i think directed 'touching the void'.

N_RQ, Monday, 15 August 2005 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link

guardian reported a new box set out this week. no details on amazon but i found this:

http://telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2005/08/13/bfdvds13.xml&menuId=564&sSheet=/arts/2005/08/13/ixfilmmain.html

The Powell & Pressburger Box Set:
Battle of the River Plate;
A Canterbury Tale;
49th Parallel;
I Know Where I'm Going;
Ill Met by Moonlight;
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp;
The Red Shoes;
A Matter of Life and Death;
They're a Weird Mob
Granada Ventures, DVD (9 discs), £17.99; only in HMV

18 quid is a good deal.
"only in HMV"?

koogs (koogs), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Yowser. That's a GREAT deal! Perhaps only HMV have it that cheaply and it's a grillion pounds elsewhere...

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

that is damn fine. alas i have most of those, and paid more than that for 'em separately. if you don't have them, DO SO.

N_RQ, Monday, 15 August 2005 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

'grillion'.

I saw A Canterbury Tale last year, then went to Canterbury with the Vicar and Rener! It was a bit like, in the film.

I seem to have had half an eye on I Know Where I'm Going so many times.

A Matter Of Life and Death will always be the central picture for me.

the bellefox, Monday, 15 August 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

> Perhaps only HMV have it that cheaply and it's a grillion pounds elsewhere...

including the HMV website (where it's still 40 quid). i guess this is an instore deal or the website's old. (or the guardian and the times were both wrong)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 15 August 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not mad about IKWIG. i think 'canterbury tale' might be best.

N_RQ, Monday, 15 August 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Reports Back from the Other Place (ie HMV Victoria) inform it's still £39.99, it's the first day out and they aren't aware of any cheaper editions coming out - so unless the bigger stores have it cheaper then I guess WE HAVE BEEN FED LIES.

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 15 August 2005 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

just checked and the guardian says 17.99 also.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/film/story/0,,1547982,00.html
time to start a class action lawsuit. or just wait until ch4 shows them in the afternoon again (i think the weird mob is the only one i haven't seen listed in the last 18 months)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Black Narcissus is my favorite. When I was a nipper, I was confused and thought Black Narcissus and Black Orpheus were the same movie, never having seen but only having heard of them. The first time I saw BN I couldn't always tell which nun was which, and I'm not sure if this wasn't intentioanal.

I saw a (WWII?) lifeboat movie that was shot by Jack Cardiff once that was pretty interesting- google tells me it was called Western Approaches.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't know JC shot that! 'westerna approaches' was directed by, i forget who, but the GPO-Crown documentary people -- ie archer foes.

N_RQ, Monday, 15 August 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

It wasn't Len Lye or the Brazilian guy, that's for sure.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I've rewatched Colonel Blimp since I posted to this thread last and completely changed my opinion of it. Great, great film.

frankiemachine, Monday, 15 August 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

bensonsworld says that box is "off the schedule."

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Duh. I guess that would make sense since it's not HMV...

Is it only £17.99 if you pick it up "in store"? I'm not familiar with HMV as I'm not from the UK. But damn, I want this.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Was there some business in I Know Where I'm Going about talking on the radio and using "Roger" and "Over"? It's been so long since I've seen it.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i think you've confused it with 'airplane' -- easily done.

Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Monday, 15 August 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe I confused it with A Matter Of Life And Death?

No, the radio subplot involves her fiancé. Checking up on this led me to discover that Petula Clark has a small role in the movie.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

> Is it only £17.99 if you pick it up "in store"?

not even then according to starry who popped out at lunchtime. appears both papers were incorrect.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
A Matter Of Life Or Death is on english TV (channel 4) friday afternoon (about 1).

koogs (koogs), Sunday, 18 September 2005 09:53 (eighteen years ago) link

It's on Turner Classic Movies over here next Saturday, I think.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 18 September 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I misspoke. It was just on, although there is probably another airing or two during the week. I watched the last half hour. Raymond Massey didn't annoy me nearly as much as the last time I saw it. I didn't realize the woman from Black Narcissus was in it. What did Kim Hunter ever do besides this and Planet Of The Apes? Black Narcissus is on in five minutes.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 19 September 2005 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Gong has become bullseye had become two Himalayan horns! See you in 1h 40min.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 19 September 2005 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"Sausages! They will eat sausages."

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope that was their only screening of A Matter Of Life and Death.

Next Sunday is The Red Shoes and the TCM premiere of- they said it couldn't be shown on television - Peeping Tom.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen it on TV at least twice.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Really, Martin? I was kidding actually. Because the guy said it was "the TCM premiere."

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

and Colonel Blimp is on this afternoon at 2:55. (BBC2 UK)

have seen Peeping Tom at least twice on english tv, last time was as recently as May.

koogs (koogs), Saturday, 24 September 2005 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link

It would have been Michael Powell's 100th birthday, apparently, so that's why they are showing these things on TCM. They keep showing these promo things with Powell's widow, Thelma Schoonmaker talking about how "Scorcese and I would have died to get that color."

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 24 September 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link

hadn't seen Colonel Blimp before as it happens. and John Laurie was in it. pity it started half an hour late because of the stupid bat and ball thing.

koogs (koogs), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I really did not like Black Narcissus. I've nothing much to add, I just wanted to balance out the fawning love. Nice imagery, settings, etc but the plot left me shivering freezing cold. I feel a more interesting film could have been made out of the flashbacks to the nuns pre-convent days. The denouement with the nun-gone-bad and her death seemed very rushed and tacked on. It felt like I was being forced to watch some dreary film on a wet Sunday afternoon.

However, Matter Of Life & Death is flawless. Wonderful in every way. I liked Peeping Tom but still, it pales next to most Hitchcock.

Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i think i like the b/2 stuff more than the color. props to them for exprimenting with color, but for whatever reason it's not for me (except for 'black narcissus' maybe).

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link

two more:
I Know Where I'm Going - BBC4 3rd October (John Laurie again)
Peeping Tom - ITV 14th October (2nd time in 5 months)

koogs (koogs), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

This thing about Peeping Tom being on UK TV all the time is practically a new ILX meme.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 2 October 2005 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
"49th Parallel" tuesday afternoon UK. worth watching for laurence olivier's accent (ok, maybe not).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033627/

koogs (koogs), Monday, 7 November 2005 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Colonel Blimp is on on saturday as part of bbc4's War on Film season

Saturday 29th

9:00 pm
In Which We Serve
Classic drama starring Noel Coward and John Mills. Adrift at sea after their Royal Navy destroyer is attacked and sunk, the surviving crew members recount their stories in flashback. [1942, b&w][S]

10:50 pm
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Powell and Pressburger's masterpiece of British cinema chronicles the extraordinary life story of British army officer Clive Candy, beginning with his early career in the Boer War. [1943][S]

Sunday 30th

7:00 pm
The Colditz Story
John Mills stars in the true story of the notorious German POW establishment and the officers who tried to escape from it. [1955, b&w][S]

8:35 pm
A Bridge Too Far
Star-studded epic war film recounting Operation Market Garden, the daring Allied plan to parachute 35,000 troops into occupied Holland to capture a strategic line of bridges. [1977]

Monday 1st May

7:20 pm
The Man Who Never Was
Spring 1943. As the Allies plan to invade Europe through Sicily they must deceive the enemy into expecting the attack elsewhere. Two British officers propose a daring and ingenious plan. [1956]

(which is a nice little selection. needs more submarines though)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 28 April 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
HMV have the 10 dvd box set on sale now for £16.99, ordered my copy tonight.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
just saw the new canterbury criterion dvd last night... awesome

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

YUP.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 10 August 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I could not be doing with Battle of River Plate, although it does have the odd visual treat, by which I suppose I mean stuff that looks a bit like A Matter of Life and Death.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 10 August 2006 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i gotta see a matter of l&d.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I know where I'm going.

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't the Americans call it 'stairway to heaven'? David Niven is a legend.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

We have called it that in the past, but I think that in recent years we have reverted to the British title, thereby avoiding a certain guitar store confusion.

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

All I do know is that it was commissioned by the British government to promote goodwill between the US and Britain. How such a film is needed again now, eh?

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

canterbury tale is prob my favorite movie

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

gonna pick up the criterion edition?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
Wow, the Glue Man stuff (and Eric Portman's gayish ecologist creep) is soooooooo fuckin' weird in A Canterbury Tale. The American GI's folksiness wore thin too. Looks great as usual.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I love A Canterbury Tale, it's my favourite P&P movie in many ways, but they veer strangely close to some Blood & Soil proselytising at times.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

I saw Powell's The Edge of the World on Tuesday. Utterly brilliant, utterly beautiful. Shot almost entirely on location in an almost Mass Observation style but with a Thomas Hardy-esque plot. Like all of his movies he puts the emphasis where you least expect: landscape and the everyday, rather than melodrama. See it.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 28 June 2007 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

has ne1 read MP's autobiog? was he a ballet fan way back, ie in the teens and twenties?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 27 August 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I wouldn't know- I only got to page six hundred.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 27 August 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Watching Black Narcissus again, I'd forgotten that every inch was shot in England.

And I know it's a melodrama, but nearly everything about Sister Ruth (esp in the last half) is indeed WAY TOO MUCH.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

[image of Lou Reed and VU here]
You know it's just too much

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Watching Black Narcissus again, I'd forgotten that every inch was shot in England.
They didn't have to go far to get to the Army Navy store to get the Black Narcissus.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Nor the sausages to eat.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd forgotten BN is cheap cologne too!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link

You obviously didn't read the RIP Deborah Kerr thread too carefully.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i seldom read entire threads carefully.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

At this point, me neither.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Guy who played three roles in Canterbury- Narrator/Lantern Show Brit/Village Idiot - was British character actor Esmond Knight, who had been blinded in the war, and also played the Old General in Black Narcissus, of which Powell said something like "he thoroughly enjoyed playing the Rajah, but I don't think he was a very convincing one."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

And he's still alive. And he was in I, Claudius. Sweet.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

My info says he passed in 1987, after appearing in Superman IV: The Quest For Peace.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Hm, I didn't know Jack Cardiff worked on a Rambo movie.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, I misread his IMDB entry. ah well.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

"You can't hurry an elm!"

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 29 November 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

"I give it 'til the rains break."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 29 November 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Esmond White and Jean Simmons were both in both Blank Narcissus and Sir Larry's Hamlet, the fight over the use over the latter becoming almost a Pinewood-Denham "frontier war," according to Powell.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I have an advance Criterion 2-disc Thief of Bagdad, and I'm not sure I've ever looked forward to spending 8-10 hours with a set before.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 May 2008 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't be objective about <i>A Canterbury Tale</i>; it's a brilliant film which manages to be simultaneously comforting and unsettling - and Kubrick obviously thought so too, since the bird/Spitfire cut at the beginning is definitely "hello <i>2001</i>."

And Eric Portman as the glue-pourer really was the business; sad that he's largely forgotten now as an actor, or remembered only for his appearance in <i>The Prisoner</i>, since I never saw him give a performance which was anything less than arresting, even if the film itself wasn't much cop.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 9 May 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I have an advance Criterion 2-disc Thief of Bagdad, and I'm not sure I've ever looked forward to spending 8-10 hours with a set before.

-- Dr Morbius, Friday, May 9, 2008 2:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

awesome. report back!

s1ocki, Friday, 9 May 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Just watched A Canterbury Tale again. That scene on the hill with Allison and the Glue Man ("Glorious, isn't it?") might be my favorite Archers moment (from what I've seen).

clotpoll, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

canterbury tale is amazing.

s1ocki, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Blimey. That 10-film DVD boxed set is now only £9.99 from HMV with free delivery!

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=389105

Alba, Friday, 9 May 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

9-film, rather.

Alba, Friday, 9 May 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Ordered that quick sharp.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 9 May 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

just got the thief of baghdad in the mail today, surprise review copy! WOOHOO!!

s1ocki, Thursday, 15 May 2008 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

The Small Back Room from Criterion next week, very underappreciated, esp the two leads.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Radio 4 had a programme about the book's author, Nigel Balchin, recently. It prompted me to buy The Small Back Room, but I haven't read it yet.

Alba, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd like to read it, Powell second-guessed how they did the adaptation.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

what does that sentence mean?

amateurist, Saturday, 16 August 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

new set from sony — kind of random 2-film collection with "a matter of life and death" and "age of consent."

i'd never seen either before... just watched the former last night. pretty great. the opening scene with them meeting over the radio as david niven's plane is going down really won my heart...

s1ocki, Thursday, 8 January 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a pretty fine movie, cept the whole trial thing is weird. Best understood in terms of US-UK postwar vibe apparently (ie, changing of the Imperial Assholes guard).

Age of Consent benefits from Helen Mirren, a Lolita who can act better than Sue Lyon!

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 8 January 2009 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I've had Age of Consent sitting in my queue for a week. Netflix is showing signs of holiday wear.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 8 January 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

ya the trial kind of stopped me in my tracks a bit--at least stopped it from becoming a major revelation, especially the way it kind of abruptly ends

s1ocki, Thursday, 8 January 2009 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

definitely makes an interesting companion piece to a canterbury tale.

s1ocki, Thursday, 8 January 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Age of Consent[ tonight!

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

big screen or home?

s1ocki, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

don't get too excited...

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

peeping tom on tonight though, 12:05, itv. (this being the uk)

koogs, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

The DVD, after a loooong wait.

I Know Where I'm Going still my favorite.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

big fan of that one.

s1ocki, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/martin-scorsese-the-movie-that-plays-in-my-heart-1685003.html

did not know or had forgotten that jim mcbride was at college with marty.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Friday, 15 May 2009 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Need to read that thru properly when I'm at home. OTM about Moira Shearer for real.

Dom P's Rusty Nuts (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 May 2009 08:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Interesting article, thx for link.

I read elsewhere that the restored version of The Red Shoes is out on dvd and blu-ray in June; given the work done on the print it sounds like the blu-ray will be even better than that of Black Narcissus.

Bill A, Friday, 15 May 2009 08:33 (fourteen years ago) link

he pretty much says "i was coked off my nuts first time i met mickey p."

xpost

the one i most want to see is 'a canterbury tale'. tbh the dvd i have of 'the red shoes' is already amazing. but the 'canterbury' one isn't, and that's on criterion now.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Friday, 15 May 2009 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Still probably my favourite, Canterbury Tale. Also Sheila Sim is uber-radiant in that one. But it's probably their funniest and most inscrutable flick.

Dom P's Rusty Nuts (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 May 2009 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link

the one i most want to see is 'a canterbury tale'. tbh the dvd i have of 'the red shoes' is already amazing. but the 'canterbury' one isn't, and that's on criterion now.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Friday, May 15, 2009 8:35 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are you saying the criterion canterbury isn't good, or that there's a different version where you are?

s1ocki, Friday, 15 May 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

There has been a different, cheapo one available in the UK.

Alba, Friday, 15 May 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

ahh. crit cant is great.

s1ocki, Friday, 15 May 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

My order for blu-ray of The Red Shoes just shipped from hmv.com - hopefully will be here before the weekend...

Bill A, Thursday, 2 July 2009 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link

is it the new cleaned up version?

Michael tapeworm much talent for the future (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 July 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, it's the restored version as shown at Cannes this year. According to the press blurb it's exclusively available from HMV, I don't know if this will remain the case.

Bill A, Thursday, 2 July 2009 13:28 (fourteen years ago) link

bizarre!

Michael tapeworm much talent for the future (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 July 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

ah. found it on the hmv.com site, which completely crashed firefox. apparently it comes out on monday, so you won't have it in time for the weekend i'm 'fraid.

Michael tapeworm much talent for the future (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 July 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Lots of things crashing firefox lately.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 July 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

ya, this is supposedly the hot new 3.5 too

Michael tapeworm much talent for the future (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 July 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, I got their confirmation that it has shipped - hopefully, this is the same as Amazon and means it's actually in the post so there's a chance (assumming teh Royal Mail do their thing properly).

Hmm, firefox ok on mine on that site (3.0.10 on XP). Weird.

Bill A, Thursday, 2 July 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i'm your biggest fan i'll follow you until you love me - Roger Roger Livesey
Baby there's no other superstar you know that i'll be - Roger Roger Livesey

Freedom, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Don't believe I waited this long to watch A Matter of Life and Death. What a gorgeous movie. Think I'll watch another one later, Black Narcissus maybe?

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, 28 January 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

AMoLAD is stupendous, I've been yearning for it to get released on blu-ray.

Have you seen Black Narcissus before? Beautiful and very unsettling at the same time.

Bill A, Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Nope, never seen it. Think that's my evening sorted.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

also, early Jean Simmons role

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Yr in for a treat - would be interested to hear your thoughts once you've seen it. Timely viewing as well given Jean Simmons's passing last week (you got there before me Morbs!). She's captivating in it.

Bill A, Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll report back!

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Black Narcissus: Wow. Going to have to collect my thoughts on it a bit, but wow.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Friday, 29 January 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Kathleen Byron died just over a week ago too, strangely.

Freedom, Friday, 29 January 2010 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Or rather, no she didn't. That was last year. Me and my speedy wikipedia scans.

Freedom, Friday, 29 January 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently Esmond Knight is no longer with us as well.

the clones of tldr funkenstein (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 January 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Jesus christ that Red Shoes restoration!

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 April 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

BN cover is superb

Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Thursday, 15 April 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

as always thank god for criterion or i'd only be buying action films on blu-ray

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

both covers, but especially r.s., are awful

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 16 April 2010 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

both covers, but especially r.s., are terrific

Ward Fowler, Friday, 16 April 2010 06:02 (fourteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_of_Our_Aircraft_Is_Missing

on film four tomorrow at 15:10. it isn't, for some reason, in the big box set of archers films that is available (but is on film4 every couple of months and is only £4 on dvd anyway)

koogs, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

both covers, but especially r.s., are awful

― by another name (amateurist), Friday, April 16, 2010 1:43 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

both covers, but especially r.s., are terrific

― Ward Fowler, Friday, April 16, 2010 2:02 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark


If we took a poll, it'd probably be a 6-7 split.

Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Amazing covers: wish I could get prints of them.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Trying to remember what Jack Cardiff said was the thing he shot that he loved for the ending of Black Narcissus that ended up on the cutting room floor.

Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

This reminds me: I have been curious about this book http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51QQ0B1MX1L._SS500_.jpg for a while, but it seems crazy expensive on Amazon. Is it worth shelling out for, anyone?

Stevie T, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't know that book. Here is the info on the lost scene: http://www.powell-pressburger.org/Reviews/47_BN/LostScene.html.

Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

more criterion covers here: http://grainedit.com/2009/12/08/criterion-collection-dvd-covers/

koogs, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

£18 here: http://www.faber.co.uk/work/arrows-of-desire/9780571162710/

koogs, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

the ian christie book is great.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

watched A Canterbury Tale again, also watched the extras on the second disc. Both Sheila Sim and John Sweet come across as lovely people - Sim being very regretful about the treatment of the Village Idiot character, and Sweet talking about his realization that he wasn't cut out to be an actor, and his return to teaching. At the end he says that he feels like his main contribution was that he made his students like themselves a bit more.

itchy rainbolt (clotpoll), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 05:26 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

o hi black narcissus and red shoes blu rays

how r u today

al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

JEALOUS

just watched 'i know where i'm going!' last night, i love that 12-year-old petula clark has a bit part in it

"slapsie" (donna rouge), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

saw Edge of the World fairly recently--surprisingly good! fun to see Powell and his wife on screen, though that frame story is a bit pointless.

elephant rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been planning on watching "I know where I'm going" this week, donna. Is it as terrific as I've heard it is?

Cunga, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The story in Edge of the World is nicely sparse and mythical, gives the movie drive and structure and you can't have a ghost town without having ghosts.

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

cant wait to see i know wher eim going again sometime

al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda want to go blu for these new ones...

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

go blu or go home imo

al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

still rocking a CRT tv tho... does that work?

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

no point

al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i like the crt... more authentic graininess

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

you can't have a ghost town without having ghosts.

Yes, you're right: it's not pointless, though it kind of spoils the suspense of John Laurie's final scenes. That probably doesn't matter since thematically he can't leave the island anyway, but the frame story has an stiffness to it. Anyway, I really just wanted to say that if you're a P&P fan and haven't seen it, it's very good. And it anticipates the awesome IKWIG in many ways.

elephant rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I know what you're saying - Powell could have done it as a straight documentary, almost. But like I say I'm a sucker for his myth-making - like all myths, it doesn't quite make sense in the end.

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Discuss: The prpriety of seeing an iteration of a film that looks different from the way its makers could've ever seen it.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

aka shd we read joyce on a kindle?

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

michael powell did laserdisc commentaries. reckon he'd be chill with blu-ray.

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm just asking, as I've never seen a BluRay.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

also I don't remember ppl saying "It's never looked like this" re laserdisc the way they do with BR.

Similar to Jeffrey Wells' vote for scrubbing ALL grain from old movies on video?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i've seen it in shops. looks better than dvd, but not *that* better. when my dvd breaks i'll get one, now that the cost has come down.

i haven't heard people say blu-ray falsifies the movie, but do see a lot of debate out there. everyone says 'the red shoes' looks amazing and they can;t all be shills.

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Most film-makers I think probably want/ed their films to look as well as they possibly could. As long as technology doesn't fuck with what's meant to be in the frame then I don't have much issue with it.

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't imagine P&P not wanting e.g. The Red Shoes to look as luminous and vivid as technology wd allow.

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Part of the point of these blu-ray reissues is that they are better able to recreate the experience of watching a film (ie. better resolution, colour depth, contrast, visible film grain etc etc) than any previous home video system. Def. a sight closer to the original intent than some shitty VHS or TV viewing.

Bill A, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, they look MORE like the original film, not less

al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

VHS on the other hand was a travesty

al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

the question is more valid, kinda, when it comes to TV on bluray, like the recent star treks that look SO much more spotless and gleaming than anyone could have ever experienced them, save for maybe the editor, back in tha day

al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost to Noodle Vague
oh wait, I think we're talking about totally different things! By "frame story" I simply meant the prologue with Andrew Gray piloting a yacht with two English people on it (played by Powell and his wife, Frankie) to the island. I didn't mean the story Powell wrote to flesh out the original evacuation of the island story---is that what you thought I meant? At any rate, I totally agree about myth-making and almost totally agree with Powell's own extremely negative stance on documentaries.

All that said, there's actually a bit in the prologue that I love. Powell's character asks Andrew what Hirta (the island's name) means. Andrew says very portentously "it means...death." Cut to an ominous shot of an eagle hunting a lamb. Just before it can kill the lamb, the eagle is shot by Powell.

elephant rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

ha okay I'd forgotten that bit. I get ya now. Still fits into the ghost story theme I guess tho, and I like that "tourists stepping onto sacred ground" kind of feeling.

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Like he's building layers to make it easier for City folk to get into the story.

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i've only seen a couple of BR discs projected onto a living room wall but they do look really, really good - seems like the perfect home video format for the archers, tati, etc (until the next thing comes along in 2020 or whatever)

cunga i loved IKWIG! - the location shots alone are like damn

"slapsie" (donna rouge), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

xp
Yeah, your initial response made me rethink things and while it is a little tacked-on (and forgettable, ha!) it still has some nice footage and that hunting bit. And I agree it makes sense thematically and narratively in the way you're suggesting. Also in retrospect it adds to the tragedy that Andrew is reduced to piloting around some English swell's yacht after leaving Hirta.

Donna, you should see Edge of the World if you haven't--the location shooting might even be superior to IKWIG's at times. Maybe not superior, but wilder and very beautiful.

elephant rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

The eagle sequence is a fore-runner of the hawk-into-Spitfire shot at the beginning of A Canterbury Tale if I'm remembering right.

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread is making me want a fancy TV btw

Zuckerzeit Abrahams Zuckerzeit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I have to confess I ordered RS and BN despite not owning either a bluray player (yet) or a fancy TV. In my defense, they were 50% off and uh... :/

elephant rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

vibing out to 'the spy in black'

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

conrad veidt seems like a suitable case for some kind of treatment - biography, biopic - v. interesting figure - get on it, nrq!

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 September 2010 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The Spy in Black is excellent. Also look for Contraband from around the same time (also with Veidt).

optimizing the emotional effects of Redneck Hoe by Insane Clown Posse (corey), Friday, 3 September 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Veidt's also pretty much my favorite actor ever.

optimizing the emotional effects of Redneck Hoe by Insane Clown Posse (corey), Friday, 3 September 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Given the one-a-year drip feed of hi-def reissues, I finally ponied up and bought the 11-disc dvd box set so I can fill in the gaps of what I've seen in the meantime. Watched A Canterbury Tale last night, enjoyed it enormously for many of the reasons people have noted upthread. Another standout scene for me was Colpeper's speech during his presentation about the old pilgrims' road:

"When you lie flat on your back and rest, and watch the clouds sailing, as I often do, you're so close to those other people, that you can hear the thrumming of the hoofs of their horses, and the sound of the wheels on the road, and their laughter and talk, and the music of the instruments they carried. And when I turn the bend in the road, where they too saw the towers of Canterbury, I feel I've only to turn my head, to see them on the road behind me."

Bill A, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

beautiful.

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Been running these boxset discs as Sunday-afternoon-specials, which has always been the best time for filmic drama imo. Last week's was I Know Where I'm Going!, another that I'd never seen, and was absolutely delighted again. My wife made a point that their films are often actually very strange in many regards, but because they are so well made, acted and written one just accepts this.

On a Powell related note, "Peeping Tom" is out on blu-ray next week (and is getting some stupendous reviews). Currently only on Region-B locked issue from Optimum, but I'd be surprised if Criterion don't issue it too in the near future.

Bill A, Thursday, 18 November 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

just saw 'the red shoes', not even on blu, but the new dvd

just astonishing in every way

must see 'hoffman'

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

ya man.

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I watched Hoffmann before going to bed and when I closed my eyes I saw nothing but bright saturated colors.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

tales of albert hofmann

nakhchivan, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

hadn't noticed before how when vicky and the composer meet after getting their new jobs, it's looks very obviously like a stage set, but at the end, it's the spot she falls from and it's a real location... moira shearer apparently hadn't acted before? she's so affecting in this.

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

beautiful too.

gonna sit down with the fam and watch a bunch of P&P movies today.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 powell's red hair obsession

buzza, Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

>gonna sit down with the fam and watch a bunch of P&P movies today.

Best idea I've heard this week.

Bill A, Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

has anyone seen his episodes of the 1960s series 'espionage'? it's on dvd but not to rent

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

fopp adverts in papers today have the 9dvd box set for £9

koogs, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

£18 today

conrad, Sunday, 19 December 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

anyone seen this early German sound film co-written by Pressbuger? (dir R Siodmak)

http://germanyinnyc.org/index.php?section=catevent&cat_evt_id=1880&cat_id=9

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 January 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Newly restored Col. Blimp begins run in NYC today; Scorsese introduces tonight, Thelma Schoonmaker tomorrow.

http://www.filmforum.org/films/blimp.html

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

so fuckin jealous

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

You going, Morbius? Don't think I can.

Miss Piggy and Frodo in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

this would come along in the midst of the year-end/in-review shitstorm, of course. It's for 2 weeks, I guess I'll try during Thanksgiving break.

(Scorsese sold out online)

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

plus i'm sure he'll be speaking on the DVD, plus his Britfilm doc.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally getting around to watching Cameraman: The Life and Work of Jack Cardiff. Very good so far. Wish I had bought a copy of Magic Hour when I had the chance.

Croupier (Superstar) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 January 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Wish i had DVRed some other things that night like Pandora and the Flying Dutchman

Croupier (Superstar) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 January 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think I've ever seen anything he directed, not even Sons and Lovers.

The documentary does not mention his relationship with Sophia Loren.

Croupier (Superstar) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 January 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

That Cardiff documentary was great, I was really happy to happen across it on TCM one evening when nothing more interesting was going on.

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

how's The 49th Parallel?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

awesome, as you might expect.

trivia: that was actually their most popular film in britain on original release! (If you don't count korda's thief of bagdad.)

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 September 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

I can believe it, based on what I've read.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

I barely remember it now, but here's what I said when CC released it.

Eric H., Monday, 10 September 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

eric portman is great as a nazi. and it has laurence olivier as a french-canadian fur trapper. do you need a higher recommendation?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 10 September 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

A critical roundup marking the Criterion BluRay and the new 4K digital restoration of Black Narcissus, which I would see at Film Forum if I didn't know there'll be shitheads laughing all the way through.

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-powell-and-pressburgers-black-narcissus

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 January 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

laughing because of the colonial (and other) stereotypes?

one glare from kathleen byron shld silence the gigglers:

http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5119886.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/kathleen-byron.jpeg

Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 January 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

There is a hardcore group of under-35s in NYC who go to old films simply to laugh condescendingly at them. For any reason.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 January 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

The resto of Colonel Blimp is out on disc in March I think.

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

xp I think I've told this here before. I went to see All That Heaven Allows and throughout people were laughing at some of the (non-funny) dialog. Some woman shouted out, "This is not a comedy! Why don't you all go home and watch television!" Which shut everyone up for the rest of the movie. Later, there's a shocking scene at which point she adds, "Not so funny now is it?!"

fit and working again, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

Haha. Bravo!

contrarian, zing thyself (cajunsunday), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

hero

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

<333

steaklife (donna rouge), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

that is a fantastic story, fit and working again (wld happily buy a volume of ppl's cinema-going stories, anecdotes etc)

in a nice piece of synchronicity, i'm planning to spend the weekend w/ a sirk collection before lending it to a friend - looking at the set, i realised i'd never seen Magnificent Obsession, and can always re-watch All That Heaven Allows (my favourite)

Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

^Scorsese on Col Blimp restoration

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

print looked fabulous

steaklife (donna rouge), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks. Near the end it sounded like he said that "The Great Lebowski" contributed to the restoration.

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

A little of John Sweet goes a long way, and the last third dawdles, but what an atmosphere A Canterbury Tale evokes, no? It's like Thomas Hardy shot by Altman.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 March 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Saw Gone to Earth tonight, with Thelma Schoonmaker introducing it; not exactly a masterpiece but the cinematography is incredible, and Jennifer Jones is quite good. The introduction included some very depressing stories about Jones' marriage to David Selznick, and apparently Jones and Cyril Cusack almost ran away together after they finished the film.

Schoonmaker mentioned (in her response to a question of mine) that there was some Who's Who book in which Powell claimed that his favorite hobby was "leaning on gates."

JoeStork, Saturday, 22 March 2014 06:50 (ten years ago) link

foxy! foxy!

i enjoyed this quite a bit, some of it is almost too much to take but that's OK w/ me.

i've never seen the selznick-edited version, am curious about that.

espring (amateurist), Sunday, 23 March 2014 09:33 (ten years ago) link

Contraband is def the Archers film for your discerning bondage enthusiast.

Forgot to mention, my main thought while watching Gone to Earth was "this must be Kate Bush's favorite movie."

JoeStork, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link

watched the Life and Death of Colonel Blimp at the weekend... i have a question...

Theo blanks him in the POW camp. why? pride?

but then he calls him from the railway station and goes and has dinner with him. seems friendly enough.

but then seems to mock him to his compatriots on the train back to germany.

why the flip-flopping?

koogs, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link

Feels he can't let on to his countrymen that he has an English friend.

Oren Zombarchi (WilliamC), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:39 (ten years ago) link

um, i guess. but wouldn't the phone call and the invitation have tipped off the other germans? he also seemed a bit sniffy at the dinner party itself (that said, the other guests did seem a bit haughty themselves).

koogs, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

i think he's violently conflicted--torn between anger at what has been to done to his country and loyalty to his friend. i do think this is one aspect of the film that seems a bit miscalculated. one reason this has never been my favorite archer film even though it is completely enthralling front to back.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link

i should clarify: he's pissed off by the reparations exacted by the victors of WWI, and the way col. blimp and his buddies seem oblivious to that. i think we're supposed to see this partly through Theo's eyes, to recognize the casual cruelty of the English officers' jovial tone.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 23:24 (ten years ago) link

that is of course a political statement -- a hint that britain (and france etc) might be partially responsible for the route Germany took in the 20 years after WWI. I think maybe this was one of several things that angered Churchill et al at the time of the film's held-up release.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

makes sense. i guess he was very nationalistic, at least until the nazis destroyed that (and his family). but, like you say, it does seem a bit odd.

canterbury tales next (working through that 11 dvd box, mingled in with japanese film backlog (6 left, must buy more), ST:TOS and Office series 8. i think there are only 3 in there that i haven't already seen but i'm enjoying revisiting them all anyway)

koogs, Thursday, 10 April 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link

plenty of weirdo nationalism in Canterbury Tale too

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 April 2014 09:53 (ten years ago) link

canterbury tale is nothing if not weird. i wouldn't call the species of nationalism in it particularly weird, though. it's founded on a notion of the countryside--or at least provincial life--as being the backbone of English national character. ian christie has a great article about that film in an edited volume of essays on Powell.

espring (amateurist), Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link

it's about 5 films in one for one thing (i think markS made this point YEARS ago)

and the way there are kids playing in a boat on a lake without adult supervision is a bit o_O to us these days (see also ealing comedies with kids playing in bombed out houses or building sites. and swallows and amazons.)

koogs, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link

i love that part of it. the kids have the run of the town.

espring (amateurist), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link

the ending (or the last act) of that film consistently makes me cry like a baby btw.

espring (amateurist), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link

Reading Herzog on Herzog at the moment and he points out how great war-ravaged cities are for kids:

It might sound bizarre to people today, but things like our discovery of the arms cache made for a wonderful childhood. Everyone thinks that growing up in the ruins of the cities was a terrible experience, and for the parents who lost absolutely everything I have no doubt that it was. But for the children it truly was the most marvellous of times. Kids in the cities took over whole bombed-out blocks and would declare the remnants of buildings their own to play in where great adventures were acted out. You really do not have to commiserate with these kids. Everyone I know who spent their early childhood in the ruins of post-war Germany raves about that time. It was anarchy in the best sense of the word. There were no ruling fathers around and no rules to follow. We had to invent everything from scratch

Alba, Friday, 11 April 2014 10:02 (ten years ago) link

i wouldn't call the species of nationalism in it particularly weird, though

riffing on (almost literally) "blood and soil" in a WWII "propaganda movie" is, if not weird, all kinds of interesting to me

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:05 (ten years ago) link

glue and soil

Ward Fowler, Friday, 11 April 2014 11:56 (ten years ago) link

Reading Herzog on Herzog at the moment and he points out how great war-ravaged cities are for kids:

John Boorman's film "Hope and Glory" gets this across pretty well, if I recall.

espring (amateurist), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

glue and soil

― Ward Fowler, Friday, April 11, 2014 6:56 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"glue"

espring (amateurist), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link

a 12ft hayrick on a cart with a boy stood on top of it.

more bombed out buildings.

more endings than lotr3.

koogs, Friday, 18 April 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link

oh, and charles hawtrey is the railway station attendant.

koogs, Friday, 18 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

Slowly working through the box set. Ill met, river plate and today They're a Weird Mob which was strange in a similar way to Canterbury tale in that it wasn't really one type of film but several.

Also, not many real actors, they seem like amateurs.

koogs, Saturday, 2 August 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

Is the blind chap who is in nearly all their films in those. Having trouble remember his name, suppose I should just scroll up, Evelyn Knight or something?

Erdős Number 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 August 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

Close, Esmond Knight.

Erdős Number 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 August 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

IMDb days no. Black NARC next though and he's in that. Will keep an eye out.

koogs, Saturday, 2 August 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

(Says)

koogs, Saturday, 2 August 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

Will keep an eye out.
*groans*

Erdős Number 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 August 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Is anyone aware of any really strong essays on The Thief of Bagdad? I need some supplementary material to give to my class when I show the film at the end of October.

MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

there's this one from Criterion

http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/496-the-thief-of-bagdad-arabian-fantasies

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Excited about the Tales of Hoffmann restoration:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/tales-hoffmann-exclusive-materials-making-powell-pressburger-masterpiece

Alba, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 11:14 (nine years ago) link

Nice!

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 11:28 (nine years ago) link

nice indeed, but still waiting for bluebeard's castle :)

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

nice!

a few of these guys' movies are my favorite things ever

canterbury tale
small back room
matter of life and death
49th parallel (particularly the last reel)

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, those are all aces. Particularly enjoyed Small Back Room.

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link

yeah, it's a really heady mix of tones--like six movies in one! sometimes with their movies i just want to stand up and fucking clap at various points. they have everything; visual inventiveness, narrative ingenuity, juicy acting, sex, suspense, literate dialogue, political smarts...

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

uh forgot emotion

last time i watched matter of life and death, went to the theater alone. started crying about four seconds into the movie, took me minutes to stop. the whole first few minutes are harrowing. what a way to start a movie.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

well actually i guess it was after the stuff about the universe and once we see david niven resigning himself to dying

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

agreed. I watched the opening on YouTube and immediately bought the DVD a few years ago. I really need to see 49th Parallel again--I went in not expecting much and became totally absorbed in it pretty quickly.

rob, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link

hey i wrote about The Small Back Room and never linked it.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/the-small-back-room

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 October 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

as a person who struggles with a lot of Great Music, Oh... Rosalinda!! and Tales of Hoffmann could never be among my favorites, tho I apprec the bursting color and visual rhythms.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

as a person who struggles with a lot of Great Music

That explains why you defend Bob Dylan.

Eric H., Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

oh you

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

I watched "the edge of the world" on mubi recently... what a weird film! some utterly mindboggling camerawork and directorial touches but major narrative disconnect in the editing and a story that went nowhere fast
worth it for the images and the scenery tho. moving paintings.

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

the weirdness and tensions in that film feel fully Archers-esque to me but it does have a loveable documentary/soap opera confusion

Chimp Arsons, Thursday, 2 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

I've liked every film I've seen except Peeping Tom (don't remember why -- for once the tonal clashes didn't work?) but am rarely tempted to rewatch. Never having seen'em in a theater hasn't helped.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 October 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

eric h, i don't know who you are, but you sure are grumpy

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 3 October 2014 06:29 (nine years ago) link

Peeping Tom is Powell alone

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 October 2014 08:08 (nine years ago) link

Pepping Tom is great (for years it was possibly the only Powell-related thing I had seen) and really quite a diff thing altogether.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 October 2014 08:11 (nine years ago) link

a masterpiece indeed

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 October 2014 11:08 (nine years ago) link

fuck i need to rewatch all of these. i tried getting my ex to watch black narcissus unsuccessfully for TWO YEARS

clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

I bought BN Blu-ray for my sister and her husband two Christmases ago. And there it lies.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 October 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link

even more frustrating as we watch the red shoes together and he loved it

clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

watched*

clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

when you visit for the holidays distract them and steal it. I'd love it.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 October 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

well, I'm going to demand it back for me, they aren't going to watch it til the daughter is out of the house or at least in adolescent exile.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 October 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

Or in a nunnery.

Eric H., Friday, 3 October 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

Peeping Tom is on TCM in a couple of hours btw.

it's taco science, but it works like taco magic (WilliamC), Saturday, 4 October 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

It doesn't have the Pressburger or production magic of the others and I used to resist the overly obvious symbolism, if that's the right way to describe it, and the fish out of water, Peter Lorre on the skids German accent, but I eventually got past the film professor arguments and found my own reasons to like it, which turned out to be mostly the same anyway.

You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 October 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

karl bohm's accent was real if that's what yr'e referring to

clouds, Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

Hah, yeah I know. I've seen the Fassbinder picture with the sunburn, Martha.

You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

He's great in Fox and His Friends.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 October 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

"Happy bersssday."

Eric H., Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:50 (nine years ago) link

I've tried to watch Small Back Room twice now and got utterly confused both times about 40 minutes in. I should stop drinking.

kraudive, Monday, 6 October 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

I watched it again this weekend and loved it. It might help not to drink during the scene when the protagonist isn't drying out.

I also rewatched Peeping Tom. There is something to letting the lead show all his cards from the start; the actor's pretty obvious though.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

*uring the scene when the protagonist IS drying out

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

That guy is so great in Small Back Room and Black Narcissus. Was he ever in anything else of note? Am I blanking?

You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 October 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link

also in their Gone to Earth

seems to have retired from the screen in the early '60s

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 October 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

peeping tom is great but in such a different register from the Archers classics!

I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 6 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Just watched A Canterbury Tale for the first time – so wonderful.

Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Monday, 10 November 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

I do wonder where that was filmed, because it looked idyllic.

koogs, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

(The start, obviously)

koogs, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

Have you seen this, Koogs?

http://gu.com/p/3hzz5

Stevie T, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

I would love to see the documentary about the John Sweet/Sheila Sim reunion in 2000, but I'm not sure it's worth paying 20+ bucks for a used copy of the DVD for that. Maybe in the next Criterion half-off sale.

Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Monday, 10 November 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link

canterbury tale is my favorite film many days

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 10:07 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I am on my last day (I think) of recovering from flu. "I Know Where I'm Going is playing. Uneventful, yes, but so bizarrely charming.

dr bronner's new and improved peppermint (soda), Saturday, 29 November 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I have a ridiculous crush on young Roger Livesey.

WilliamC, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

Local public broadcasting is doing an Archers cavalcade. So far Black Narcissus, I Know Where I'm Going and tonight A Matter of Life and Death. Next tuesday The Red Shoes. I've never seen them, and wow, they're amazing. A Matter of Life and Death is one of the best films I've ever seen. Such sad beauty. And the story seems as if it could really have been a short or midlength, but then stretched out in the best way, with inventive and/or moody episodes tangentially related to plot. The Camera Obscura scene, and the whole thing with the soldiers rehearsing Midsummers Night Dream, for some reason. Oh, I want to see it again soon.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Saw A Canterbury Tale for the first time yesterday. As always with Archers films, I found it extremely moving, and it had me a bit tearful a couple of times. I also came out angry for our current times. So many of the constitutive elements of the film - the countryside, tradition, Christianity (albeit in its more mystical aspects), childhood and innocence, the village, the pub - are also seem to be the constitutive elements of the vision many vexatious and enraged people have of this country today. Yet all the crucial elements are lost - the humour, the cheerfulness, the characteristic P&P view of humanity as a whole - from the notes:

The character played by John Sweet had been born and brought up in the lumber business in Oregon, and Emeric had written the scene in Kent to show how two craftsmen understand each other's methods, even though they are from opposite sides of the earth.

Also, they do English rudeness and the English manner very well.

As always they manage to portray a far wider spectrum of cheerfulness than i've seen in other films, or depicted much at all in fact. Then there's the curious mixture of whimsy and mysticism and all together it means the film just glows. The delivery of miracles, and the manner in which they're delivered is not a common subject for a film!

Although reading a brief note by Michael Powell on the film suggests this wasn't the intention, it's hard not to feel Colpeper and the cinema organist Gibbs exist only loosely between this world and realms outside it, with fairly strong suggestions that Gibbs is already dead, and Colpeper a strange sort of demi-urge, existing across time on the Pilgrim's Road. A Puck-like figure, though not especially puckish with his administrative aspect and gently done but unpleasant misogyny. A very strange figure. How wonderful their films are.

Fizzles, Sunday, 7 May 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link

rewatched it myself last Sunday, i could watch it once a week i think

Colpeper is the knot at the heart of the movie, i can never work out how i feel about him (or how he feels about Alison). there's something in P&P's worldview that i probably disagree with pretty profoundly, or agree with v reluctantly - they were certainly no fans of what the Atlee gov stood for iirc, and i still itch at the blood & soil overtones in Canterbury Tale. but as you say, what's happening and what it says about a sense of place is infinitely richer than 2017 jingoism and fake nostalgia.

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 May 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

Yeah the countryside/tradition thing is difficult. From what I understand they sit in an extended 20th C version of that late 19th C congeries of holiness/spiritism/mysticism/countryside esp South East and South West/common humanity/volkism/folkish stuff expressed by a wide set of in some other ways disparate people - W Morris, Chesterton (ledge to thread!), Machen, Warlock, Belloc (who I find supremely unpleasant), John Ireland.

That can be approached with wry amusement, which nevertheless has the capacity for revelation (the US Seargent John Sweet is representative), and which does take some of the toxicity away, but only conditionally on the right personalities and circumstances being present really.

The other way to redeem things slightly is to emphasise the other history of the countryside so effectively erased at the moment - anti-enclosure, non-conformist, pro-liberty etc.

and try an dial down the merrie england crap.

Colpeper is really difficult I agree. He's the retarding mechanism that prevents everyone leaving and so allows the delivery of miracles, or the receptivity for them to be delivered (yes, Alison's lover's father is waiting for her in Canterbury, but this period of rediscovering the land why she had stayed before was necessary, otherwise the moths win!). To this extent he reminds me of one of the famous 'problems' in Lear, the passage where Edgar leads Gloucester to Dover. It doesn't make sense in terms of the time scheme and movement of the play, but it's a necessary... catharsis, that's probably not the right word.

I was think he had that puckish/faery aspect, but of course he is also a petty tyrant, and as you say downright sinister or peculiar towards Alison.

Like most of the rest of the Archers films it feels like it will be one that I keep returning to as well.

Fizzles, Sunday, 7 May 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Watched the Red Shoes last night with a friend and we were both absolutely delighted the entire time. Thinking of snagging the Korean DVD of Gone to Earth from Amazon and watching that; already love Canterbury Tale and I Know Where I'm Going... picking Gone to Earth next because that's my favorite David Sylvian album.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 27 August 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

I feel like Black Narcissus might be closest in vibe to the red shoes but they're all golden

Neves Say Neves Again (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 August 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Read the Michael Powell autobiography - well, have stalled near the end for some reason, but will finish it soon. Probably should have posted here as I went through as there was a load of interesting stuff in there.

Incidentally, he's in the boat with his future wife Frankie at the beginning of The Edge of the World here. It's a little perplexing how someone who is somewhat underwhelming and slightly peevish there managed to have relationships with such extraordinary women - his marriage to Frankie, then a London model - very nearly didn't happen due to his and Deborah Kerr's infatuation for each other, and he had Pamela Brown (ah me) had a very intense relationship once he was married, but one that was unconsummated, as the only time they tried they fell into the fire grate laughing.

Fizzles, Sunday, 8 October 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

I remember enjoying reading that very much, though iirc he's pretty negative about my beloved A Canterbury Tale and even says the critics were right to dislike it? I have the second volume but have never gotten around to reading it. I'd be curious to read the Peeping Tom years and I've never known how he ended up with Thelma Schoonmaker. On the other hand I feel like a lot of the best material in the first book is about the silent era; his affection for that time and regret at its passing has always stuck with me despite my being a bad cinephile who can only rarely work up to watching a silent

rob, Sunday, 8 October 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

i’ll have to check but i think that’s right - iirc he says he understands why they didn’t like it and also felt it was unsatisfactory in terms of plot. He felt the glue man - intended to be a portrait of a typical “english loony” who remains unsaved by god wasn’t well understood by the americans, or anyone else for that matter (see conversation upthread).

clearly has a great fondness for it tho.

and yes i had the same experience when he was writing about silent films, the lighting and faces and need to capture drama visually - watched Kevin Brownlow’s restores version of Abel Gance’s Napoléon as a consequence and felt MP’s enthusiasm towards silent film meant i enjoyed it more.

Also found it interesting, perhaps slightly unexpected, that the film maker he seems to rate highest and from a fairly early stage is Buñuel. “The only director who could make two people sitting silently at a table together compelling.”

will seek out the second volume - like you keen to read about the whole Peeping Tom saga, which clearly made him feel very bitter about Britain.

Fizzles, Monday, 9 October 2017 09:49 (six years ago) link

This is the truly excellent South Bank Show docu from 1986. It keeps getting taken down from You Tube so rip it and watch it at all speed

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2xkg6m

piscesx, Monday, 9 October 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link

(the story MP tells of how he and Pressburger got together is amazing)

piscesx, Monday, 9 October 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link

This is a really great David Thomson article about how he invited Powell to teach at Dartmouth, and how he met Thelma
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/cinema-a-genius-without-a-job-1575433.html

Stevie T, Monday, 9 October 2017 10:49 (six years ago) link

that's lovely. Thanks for posting

Number None, Monday, 9 October 2017 11:09 (six years ago) link

yes thank you Stevie! Imagine studying film at Dartmouth of all places and then meeting Michael Powell and Lillian Gish

rob, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link

meant to ask if anyone has read the Kevin Macdonald bio of Pressburger mentioned in that piece? Thinking about Powell's take on ACT--and yes it's a weird film to be sure--makes me wonder what his partner would have thought. A repressed hobbyist who harasses women to police their sexual behavior and prevent them from intruding into the sacred space of his geeky interests is far more typical than someone as confidently masculine as Powell might have realized.

rob, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

That's a lovely article as NN say, thanks for posting Stevie. And the South Bank Show is really good too, thanks picesx. It's a miracle of compression as well; it seems to manage to cover an awful lot that's in the book and does it with Powellian wit and imagination as well. Gives him room to speak and breathe.

Fizzles, Monday, 9 October 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

repeating what others have said... that south bank show was brilliant. thank you for posting that.

new noise, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Belated thanks for the David Thomson link. Just rewatched two films on Mubi over the past few days, Peeping Tom and The Small Back Room and was keen to watch a third, The Tales of Hoffmann, but unfortunately my download was bad and I only got a half hour in before it went kaput. The Small Back Room confirmed itself as a personal favorite and am finally warming to Peeping Tom after all these years. It helped a little to think of Karlheinz Boehm’s character Mark as some kind of reincarnation of Peter Lorre’s character in M. Also noticed some kind of connection or visual rhyme across time between the clock in the darkroom in the later film and the one in the paranoid drinking sequence in the earlier one.

Anne Git Yorgun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 06:22 (six years ago) link

Tales of Hoffmann showing soon in Astoria, Redd

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Recently learned that George Romero’s favorite movie is The Tales of Hoffmann and Wayne Shorter’s is The Red Shoes.

Steely Rodin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 December 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

4K premiere run of A Matter of Life and Death begins in NYC on Friday

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, saw that

Steely Rodin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link

Hadn't remembered that Kathleen Byron is in it.

Steely Rodin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 December 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

James, you asked my opinion of TSBR in another thread, so --

I thought it was really good, though I'm partial to Powell/Pressburger and am pretty blind to any faults they may have. (Still couldn't finish Tales of Hoffman, though.) I really liked its relatively unmelodramatic take on alcoholism -- Sammy keeping the bottle front and center and not hiding (from) it. Great German-expressionism dream sequence. I thought David Farrar and Kathleen Byron were great in Black Narcissus and liked that Powell put them in the leads in very different roles. The thermos-bomb plot is a bit thin and nonsensical from most angles, but ultimately it does make sense that the Defense Ministry would want to know how they're built even if the advice to the public wouldn't change -- "hey, don't touch that, call the local Home Guard."

WilliamC, Saturday, 30 December 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link

Filmstruck showing all the powburgers on streaming

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 December 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

Trying to remember if I’ve ever seen Farrar or Bryson in anything but those two films plus Bryson in AMOLAD.

Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

Okay, Farrar is in another Archers film, Gone To Earth that I’ve never seen. Forgot that Bryson was in Saving Private Ryan and never realized she was in The Elephant Man.

Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

Wonder if I am the only one who clicks through credits on Mubi.

Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

i always think this thread is about the soap opera thing

akm, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

Ah, see that I already had this discussion about Farrar with Morbius three years ago

Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

Still don’t really like the, um, somewhat heavy-handed nature of the trial scene, which I guess was the motivation for the production of the film, but everything else in AMOLAD is aces.

Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

saw COLONEL BLIMP for the first time and loved it. the methods deployed to show the passage of time in this film were marvelous and drolly comic, excepting the flipping of the memory book (where the last few pages are black.)

starting off with a valiant soldier type walking in on a seemingly pompous visual buffoon and then going back to deconstruct this buffoon and build him up again into an honorable if flawed figure is quite something. the casting of Deborah Kerr in the three roles could seem like a stunt elsewhere but it doesn't overplay its hand and her separate performances are subtly different enough that it doesn't come off like cheap magic realism. Livesey and Walbrook are both very funny and very touching together. The empathy for all the characters is itself quite moving, and the ending is perfect.

omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

i saw the red shoes for the first time a few weeks ago (it's the first film i've seen from them, the directors poll made me antsy about the gaps in my knowledge). it's... completely magnificent

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

picking Gone to Earth next because that's my favorite David Sylvian album.

lol i almost did this for the exact same reason

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

naah pick off the klassiks

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

P&P and Fassbinder were two top 10'ers I was thrilled made it as high as they did.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

A Canterbury Tale and I Know Where I'm Going are two must views.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

I'm probably going to buy all the P&Ps on Criterion.

Black Narcissus remains one of my top five favorite films of all time.

omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

I'm hoping that A Matter of Life and Death with get a Criterion blu-ray release this summer... seems likely!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

for sure, they just ran a 4K at Film Forum in NY

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

Theo walking away from Clive in the POW camp, as Mendelssohn's Hebrides Overture starts up, killed me on last rewatch.

jmm, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

oh that is fantastic news!
though I suppose I wouldn't otherwise have ever seen Age of Consent if it hadn't been paired with AMOLAD on the DVD

you can't go wrong with any of the classic Archers. I might recommend a b&w one if you've just seen Red Shoes or Blimp, so Eric otm

rob, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

Age of Consent!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link

Wild, huh? Here's Kehr on the set: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/movies/homevideo/06dvds.html

reading that made me want to rewatch the opening to AMOLAD immediately

rob, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

I need to watch it again. Parts of it reminded me of the Lubitsch Heaven Can Wait, which was too aw-shucks for me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

if you mean AMOLAD, it does drag in the final act with the big trial (Heaven Can Wait is a bit slow too, especially for Lubitsch), but I love the set up and everything that happens on Earth. And Livesey's camera obscura is quintessential P&P visual bravura: http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/1075290/Matter-Of-Life-And-Death-A-Movie-Clip-Camera-Obscura.html. Also fun to see Marius Goring in such a different role from Red Shoes.

if you meant Age of Consent... I don't remember much of it

rob, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I watched Criterion's blu-ray of AMOLAD last night and it is absolutely stunning--the upgrade really brings home what a visual achievement it is. What I said in my previous post about the trial still stands, but the rest is pure joy.

I've only watched the first 20 minutes, but there's also an odd but compelling special feature, a 1986 episode of the South Bank Show, that functions as something of a miniature adaptation of A Life in Movies.

rob, Sunday, 6 January 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

enjoyed Black Narcissus but didn't like The Red Shoes as much

Dan S, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

The Small Back Room was on tv over the weekend. I've not watched it yet and can't remember if I've seen it before.

koogs, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link

If you saw it I think you would have remembered it.

Another Fule Clickin’ In Your POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link

The Small Back Room is the next film of theirs I'm planning to watch

Dan S, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 02:05 (four years ago) link

yes, then read my archived review.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

NYers: The Small Back Room is showing at the Film Forum on August 26, part of Marty Scorsese & Jay Cocks' double feature festival (paired w/ the '26 silent The Magician)

Josefa, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

half an hour into SBR and it's still not ringing any bells.

koogs, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

saw The Red Shoes again. the hyper-stylization annoyed me at first, but I was more drawn in seeing it again. the climactic ballet sequence was beautiful

watched The Small Back Room today. I liked your review Morbs

Dan S, Sunday, 25 August 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

Thanks. As I still own the Bluray, I may not make the NYC screening (tho I need to see that silent), but we'll see.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 25 August 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link

don't have anything to add to the discussion about A Canterbury Tale except to say that I just saw it now for the first time and enjoyed it

Dan S, Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

liked hearing the Toccata and Fugue in the cathedral near the end

Dan S, Sunday, 1 September 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link

I rewatched A Matter of Life and Death and had no memory that the first person Niven meets after his bailout is a nude shepherd boy (cut for US release btw).

My favorite detail of that great first Niven-Kim Hunter scene is that he's cracking bad jokes while he's using his last moments to quote every poet he can think of. "Andy Marvell, what a marvel!"

My only caveats are that all that US vs UK stuff in the celestial trial is just weird now (apparently the film office asked them to make a film about Yank-Brit unity), and

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you can see Roger Livesey's death coming from his second scene.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

Bbc2 have been showing a few of these as matinees (and a bunch of other decent b&w films as well *)

Life and death today
River plate on Saturday
Blimp on Monday

(* Wooden horse, 633 squadron, triple cross, Odette, man who never was)

koogs, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:37 (four years ago) link

nude shepherd boy, hmm

haven't seen it yet

Dan S, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

The number of nude shepherd boys I was exposed to my fully clothed boy life astonishes me to this day.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link

(apparently the film office asked them to make a film about Yank-Brit unity)


yep, this was still within the frame of wartime propaganda, and as you say they were specifically asked to make a film about that (hence obv the central relationship as well).

Fizzles, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

really liked Peeping Tom

Dan S, Friday, 4 October 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

Talking Pictures TV
Thu 16 Apr 2020
02:20
The Wild Heart 1952. Drama.
Directed by Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger. Stars Jennifer Jones, David Farrar & Cyril Cusack. Hazel, a child of nature, turns to a book of spells and charms when she has problems.

(this, is turns out, is Gone To Earth, which is one i haven't seen)

koogs, Monday, 13 April 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

A different cut of Gone to Earth iirc. It's been on Talking Pictures before so there's a good chance it'll be on at a more reasonable time in the future. Haven't watched it right thru either.

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 April 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

Consequently, Selznick had the film re-edited and some extra scenes shot in Hollywood under director Rouben Mamoulian to make the version known as The Wild Heart (1952). Selznick's changes were mostly additions to the film: a prologue; scenes explaining things, often literally, by putting labels or inscriptions on them; and more close-ups of his wife, Jennifer Jones.

There's a bit more, but spoilers so I left it out.

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 April 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link

the accents in that film are both charming and all over the place

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 13 April 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

watching The Battle Of The River Plate on bbc2. they are issuing commands on the boat using a bugle, different tunes for different commands.

koogs, Thursday, 23 December 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Kathleen Byron's birthday today.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

Well, had a chance to see -- for the first time even -- the restored Red Shoes just now at the local Alamo as a one off. Hell of a thing.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 January 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link

:)

The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link

Every time I watch it, it gets better

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link

and for a while it was my least favorite P&P.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link

That’d be 49th Parallel for me (a perfectly good movie)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:48 (one year ago) link

Oh! Right. Olivier.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:53 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

Saw Thelma Schoonmaker talk Powell at the BFI yesterday - she showed a few clips, including one from an adaptation of Bartok's Bluebeard, upcoming on blu and BFI Player, which Powell did for a German company after Peeping Tom and which looks absolutely stunning, a real Mario Bava/Hammer horror colour palette and fascinating to see them reach for the same sumptousness of their big productions on a shoestring budget.

There's also a book out, an exhibition (Scorsese loaned the Red Shoes!) and of course they're showing tons of their movies, including a lot of early quota quickies.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 27 October 2023 10:25 (six months ago) link

RYNOX?

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 October 2023 11:33 (six months ago) link

What?

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 27 October 2023 12:20 (six months ago) link

RYNOX was the quota quickie you always seemed to hear about, believe it was thought lost until the nineties. I seem to recall it popping up on television once while I was in a hotel but I didn’t have the time or sense to watch it.

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 October 2023 12:47 (six months ago) link

I think it's on the bfiplayer too, if that's available outside the UK?

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 27 October 2023 13:07 (six months ago) link

I see a streaming channel called BFI Player Classics which has some kind of more limited selection.

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 October 2023 13:34 (six months ago) link

Dunno if a VPN will work with this? https://player.bfi.org.uk/subscription/film/watch-rynox-1932-online

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 27 October 2023 13:41 (six months ago) link

thanks for that James, good read. also alerted me to the fact that a restored I Know Where I'm Going is on at the NFT today. fortunately it's sold out. i say fortunately, because i really i ought to be doing a load of work, and a 12:30 showing of one of my all time favourite films would not have been conducive.

Fizzles, Sunday, 12 November 2023 09:32 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

On the bonus features to Bluebeard's Castle there's a short piece about him making a prototype of Earthsea
https://www.murrayewing.co.uk/mewsings/2011/01/23/michael-powells-wizard-of-earthsea/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 12 February 2024 21:08 (two months ago) link

Really hope Gone To Earth will get a bluray soon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 12 February 2024 21:10 (two months ago) link

It had one on Kino Lorber that seemed to quickly go out of print!

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:18 (two months ago) link

I guessing the BFI will do it eventually, but Bluebeard's Castle must have been a higher priority because it was so rarely seen

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 12 February 2024 21:34 (two months ago) link


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