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not really

maybe this thread should be stricken on maybe it already is

now THAT should have been the thread title.

(this new thread business is like ... i dunno, it's like going into pubs now the smoking ban's in force. in theory it makes SO MUCH SENSE and i can't possibly argue against it. but in practice i feel a little bereft, somehow. and hey: i'm a spectacular latecomer.)

we should toast the old thread! tonight. if we ever arrange anything.

but i'm biased, and not really fussed either way.

top. be good to meet you too, jed: i don't think i've had the pleasure, unless you were at the RAF club that time i can't remember very well :)

Can I just put on the record that "do you have any particular feelings about Harpenden?" is the greatest conversational opening gambit I have ever heard in my life. The fact that a conversation actually ensued made me smile inside. I wuv the internet and its attendant mentalists.

top night, although i was gubbed by the time i left. it's like drinking petrol. enrique, jed, JtN, mrs JtN, jed's boyf: lovely to meet you all. next time i'll do it without cider. gah.

those of you who were doing fun things today: have fun.

I thought sat was a v nice night

Are there photographs of your comedy soaking, Madchen? I would have braved a storm for that, maybe.

I didn't take pictures of the comedy soaking, we were all too drookit for camera japes.

(Twice on the hand, once on the cheek to be precise)

I told a taxi driver to fuck off on the way home. That wasn't very nice of me, was it? Still, he was at it. Our original taxi hadn't turned up despite us phoning them about ten times. So we went up to Argyle Street and spoke to a cabbie stopped in the street.

"you OK to go to Renfrew?"
"how much does that usually cost?"
"usually about a tenner"
"OK, I'll do it for £15".
"fuck off, you're having a laugh"
(Neil fumes as he thinks we'll be blacklisted from all taxis forever)

We phoned a different private hire and got home for £8.50.

x-post.

in fairness, you can do that without being drunk.

no. we saw it as a perfectly natural thing to do. there was no active thought; no conscious decision. left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot, breathe in, breathe out, break into funfair and start it up.

that's that fucking organic cider for you. seriously. it's like absinthe (only without the hallucinations). here i am, mere moments before i fell from the fence onto my arse, hard.

http://sparky.thehold.net/pix/funfair.jpg

enrique, i am glad you enjoyed yourself. i feel bad that by a couple of hours into the night i had melted my brain. i'm normally a little more coherent. i blame stet. for everything.

actually, no, i do nothing of the sort. forget i said that.

My new drink of choice for the summer is Brothers' (yes, them from Glastonbury) strawberry + pear cider. Mmmmm. Boozy fruit punch served by the half-litre. Mmmmmmm...

Stew, strangely, that's not the first time I've been recognised as a legend of Sinister. Did he realise there was a proper real actual legend of Sinister sitting across from me? (I can't remember if I pointed this out to him, but in my defence I'd been in the pub about five hours longer than Grimly)

Link to that one Madchen!

(I've just realised there's some sort of poetry in me claiming a moral victory in something clearly rigged by people off Sinister doing multiple voting shenanigans. I am Pete Waterman and I claim my five pounds)

o, right! i had a bottle of that too, on aldo's recommendation. it's lethal-ish, but doesn't come close to that westons stuff. [flicks Vs at stew.]

hmm: talking about crushes and who drinks the stronger cider. this thread has become fourth year at school.

Success - overall, probably Rangers. Both have progressed to the latter stages of European-wide competitions in recent years, they take year about of winning/throwing away the league title. Both were a bit shite in the Scottish Cup, though Celtic won the League and the League Cup this season just finished (the latter of is the least "important" domestic trophy).

Popular: depends where you are. Honestly. It's probably about 50/50 in Scotland, but Celtic have the wider world-wide following, or at least the most vocal.

Fun fact: when Celtic reached the UEFA Cup Final in Seville in 2003, it was estimated that 1% of ALL AIR TRAVEL ON THE DAY OF THE FINAL was Celtic fans. Given that not everyone flew, and that some people were there for a week, that's not a bad travelling support. Estimates at about 80,000 people (though there must have been more, judging by how many were in the stadium alone, not to mention the thousands watching in pubs, big screens etc) with not a single arrest (this is good for travelling football fans, believe me). I won't mention how when Rangers were in Spain last season, their charming travelling fans broke a window on the Villarreal team bus, because that would be churlish. Oops. Oh well.

Anyway, yes, go. It'll be good.

If Adam Virgo is playing, point at him and laugh. He's rubbish (see also Alan Thomson).

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Alisa, ooer, I remember Nakamura from my days in Japan. Glad to hear he is doing well. (Surprised to see that Nakata retired by the way.)

glasgow - population = 629 000

We're better than this, though.

I wonder if Mike and Pam fancied each other. If so, I am going to tell Ava one day.

Keith, we were at the top of the Most Frequent Posters list. It had nothing to do with being fancied, although I think, as a side effect, it made us more attractive, and continues to do so.

Though we were at the top of the frequent posters list too.

hysterical naked,

dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry

fix,

angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the

starry dynamo in the machinery of night,

who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the

supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of

cities contemplating jazz

forgot

can you recommend a good hotel to stay in? in the downtown area

http://www.brunswickhotel.co.uk/

"Hey folks,

As some of you know, I'm heading off to Peru in October to do an i-to-i project ( this: http://snipurl.com/kateperu )and to fundraise for it I'm organising a gig in the 13th Note next Thursday - 13th July. Nice and easy to remember!

There will be 4 smashing bands playing for a bargain 3 bucks:

Miss The Occupier:

"The songs blast Sister-era Sonic Youth through ace girl group melodies... it's basically off centre pop music with sharp, muscular angles. And it's sexy as ---- to boot" says Stewart Gardiner in Plan B magazine. He's not wrong! Frankly, they rock.
http://www.myspace.com/misstheoccupier

After Christmas:

Self -described as "like Grandaddy if they sounded a bit more like Modest Mouse having a fight with The Flaming Lips at a Midlake party", which is pretty accurate except that it doesn't quite convey just how much fun they are. All the "more fun than.." examples I can come up with are falling short too; you'll just have to come along to see for yourself.

http://www.myspace.com/afterchristmas

Evan Crichton:

Shy Evan (of the Wendy House collective) doesn't have any good quotes I can nick off his Myspace page, except all the comments people have left saying "I was at your gig last night and you were bloody brilliant", and so forth. He's been wowing crowds in Edinburgh and Aberdeen in the last couple of weeks, now it's Glasgow's turn again!

http://www.myspace.com/evancrichton

Older and Faraway:

The new project of former Mogwai and Zephyrs cellist Caroline Gardner, Older and Faraway will be treating us to their dreamy country tinged indie rock.

http://www.myspace.com/olderandfaraway

Doors 8.30pm

I'm just glad we're getting all the shit games out of the way *before* the season starts this time round...

Is anyone else going?

There was a huge Celtic support. On the Metro there were tons of people wearing the Green and White jerseys, and their numbers only increaded within the stadium. Definitely more people sprorting Scottish attire than DC. Is there a large population of Scots in DC that I didn't know about? Or were these Europhilic poseurs?

There was a lady and son on the Metro on the way back and they were very upset. The lady was cursing and saying how humilating the experience had been! She was a real Scot.

For the record, I think about 3 of DC's best players were also not on the field, and by the end of the game, all of DC was the reserve team.

Sorry to be competitive, but I thought that Celtic would kind of rule over DC, but I don't know that much about football. I just assumed that American football was in a different class than Euro-foot.

The lady was cursing and saying how humilating the experience had been! She was a real Scot.

Obviously not a real Celtic supporter though or she'd realise pre-season friendlies mean bugger all in real terms. And if she wants proper humiliation she should cast her mind back to this time last year.

Is there a large population of Scots in DC that I didn't know about?

I would suggest more likely to be Irish-American.

In other Glasgow news, I went to see Stew's band last night and missed them as they'd just come off stage when I got there. Oh well. I'm sure they were very good.

Just say no to pink cider, kids. It's not good for you.

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Does Edinburgh have a good football team?

(christ, ILX is knackered tonite, innit?)

can someone tell me about these places?
king tut's
13th note/barfly?
liquid lounge
abc
barrowlands

roxy just resurrected the old thread to ask if someone could tell her about the following places.

king tut's
13th note/barfly?
liquid lounge
abc
barrowlands

very quickly, i'd say:

tut's rocks, still. bit up its own arse inna "ooh look we're tut's and everybody's played here and did you know alan mcgee signed oasis while wiping his arse in that there cludgie?" but a great place to hang out, all the same. the actual stage area is a big cramped but fuck it, i saw isis and trans am there and they were both life-changing experiences.

13th note/barfly/mono/stereo is too complex a tale to go into here. someone else can do that. all you need know is that the bar still trading as the 13th note at the bottom of king street is now a bit pointless; that mono, opposite, carries on the spirit of the "old" 13th note admirably; and that barfly, which occupies the space held briefly by the ill-fated 13th note "club", is ... er, barfly.

liquid lounge: no idea. never been, to my knowledge.

abc: used to be a cinema. was more interesting then. nice enough, but soulless. that said, i've never been to the smaller venue within it, just the main hall.

barrowland: legendary. beyond words at this point in time. just godlike.

glasgow venues in terms of size/size of bands that play there, from smallest to biggest: 13th note/barfly/tut's/abc/carling academy/barrowland/SECC.

HTH!

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wowza!!!

(If the Liquid Lounge is where I think it is, which is the corner of West Regent Street and Hope Street)

I like the 13th note and Barfly. I think this is a bit controversial of me.

I don't really like Tut's.

I like the ABC, esp the small bit.

I don't see what the big deal about the Barrowland is.

i don't dislike the 13th note; i just don't see the point in it, given that mono now does what it used to do 100 times better.

barfly ... i dunno. i've had some great nights there. and hell, I SAW M83 THERE AND THAT WAS LIKE SEEING THE FACE OF GOD. but it's kinda freaky, and smells a bit.

x-post 1: FUCKING HUGE. but not as huge as the SECC, which is just pish. the perfect size, say, to see motorhead. which i did.

x-post 2: bible john. he quoted scripture as he murdered them. or something.

Roxy, are you coming to do musicky things in Glasgow? Or are you just being nosey?

I need German beer too, but the old bank balance is looking a bit rubbish. Have fun!

the same year i saw massive attack at the arches, with horace andy, which was even better.

don't bands play at nice 'n sleazy's?

Bands do indeed play at Nice'n'Sleazys. I have seen many an excellent band there.

I think it goes Rooftops (now called something else), then QM, then Barrowlands, then SECC.

Barrowlands is somewhere in the region of 1500-2000, I believe.

There's always the Cathouse!

i thought mono had some interesting ppl play there every now and then, sorry to hear it's a shithole

i have enjoyed many of the subcurrent performances at the CCA - again, gd sound, nice and loud - but the venue itself gives off the same snooty vibe as london's ica.

a few doors before the cca there was another venue - seemed to have a sort've middling range of acts - janis ian was playing there when i was in glasgow earlier this year - what's that?

i went for a drink in king tut's on the same visit. didn't seem to be anybody of any note on their gig flyer, but enjoyed the stude/crusty/saxondale vibe as I had nice cool beer, after walking the entire fucking length of argyle st looking for volcanic tongue

there seems to be an interesting venue in edinburgh, some sort of cellar bar?? that has some noize gigs i shall prob go to (also finally a chance to see Dick Gaughan, in September, in Edinburgh)

moving to glasgow on the 12th, just need to get a van sorted, excited

it's not a shithole it's a pretty good place. it's just bad for gigs because it's not set up properly and it's amateurish (not charming, sorry) also bar staff can be slighly cuntish? it has an excellent record shop that might be up your street, ward.

did you find Volcanic tongue? i've never been.

the place near the CCA is the ABC. the CCA has zero atmosphere but the sound can be good, yes.

the ABC is the one near the CCA

you should have been to king tut's before it was totally "gentrified" which it has been (I feel), as opposed to mostly "gentrified"

etc

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well, acts i've seen there include grace jones, public enemy, hawkwind, the cocteau twins, ministry, sonic youth, kraftwerk etc. i think i might possibly also hold the dubious distinction of having performed there more than any other living person. maybe i'll get a plaque one day.

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The ABC (and ABC2) may be soulless (actually, I don't think they are, but I've only ever seen acts I really like in both of them, so haven't had a shitey experience there yet), but they also have the most fantastically well-stocked bar of any gig venue I've seen. And, as Madchen pointed out, a HUGE glitterball. We spent some of a gig once watching the crowd reflected in the mirrorball. It was kind of cool.

The Arches was a good venue when I was last there in about 1995.

i don't think it's cuntish so much as spectacularly stupid - in a couple of cases at least. i do love the place dearly, but the simple act of buying a couple of pints can be unnecessarily difficult, yes.

Spear of Destiny

I don't know why I went.

To hand out flyers though.

I got to see them "psyching themselves up" to go on stage. Not a pretty sight.

I wish there were more places with chairs and high ceilings and good bands playing quietly in the corner.

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Random bands I have seen at the Barrowlands: The Wonder Stuff, The Levellers, Big Country. It does get better than this, honest. Do I out-embarrass PJ Miller? I do hope so.

I'm not a great fan of Tut's. It fine for touring bands, but I don't like DF Concert's practice of making local support acts sell tickets in order to get paid. In order to get higher on the bill, some bands will buy a load of tickets themselves, which means they're losing money to get paid. Very often the local acts it chooses suck too. The band they've signed to their new label, The Dykeenies, are sub-Killers NME fodder. Tut's also goes on at tedious length about Oasis being "discovered" there, right down to calling the urinal the "Wonderwall". Despite its claims, it's not really an integral part of the music scene. Mono/Stereo, Sleazys and the 13th Note are far more significant.

I also went to see Big Audio Dynamite there, but I could pretend it was to see Schoolly D, who was one of the many support acts.

I also tried to get in free to see Fine Young Cannibals, and was turned away by the firendly security staff. Good Thing.

I am quite embarrassed about going to see The Pogues there, but only because of all the scarf waving IRA tripe.

I saw Lloyd Cole at the Barrowlands, 2 years ago I think. Somehow he seemed not have aged in the preceding 20.

I like how Peter thinks I would have been three in 1989. Such youthful good looks I must have! I was actually 17.

I once went to see the Pogues at the Barrowlands on St Patrick's Day. It was 1991. Celtic had just knocked Rangers out of the Scottish Cup. It was top fun. I ignored all the IRA shite.

Here are some more bands I have seen at the Barrowlands:

Oasis
My Bloody Valentine
The Orb
Bis (OK, they were supporting Garbage)
Radiohead

I'm not sure I have seen Carter USM and/or the Manics there. I have seen them both lots of places, but I have no clear memory of a Barrowlands gig from either. I must have done, though. I should go and look through my ticket stubs, though being a ligger-tastic student newspaper type, I didn't pay into lots of gigs, therefore have no stubs to remember these things by.

I once saw Blur and Radiohead on the same bill, doing some Radio One gig that was being recorded for Japanese telly. This was the most exciting thing I'd ever seen in 1994, I thought I might explode with Britpop-centric joy.

I haven't been to the Barrowlands since that two-night Belle and Sebastian extravaganza. I need to rectify this.

Jesus and Mary Chain w/ The Vaselines (!)
Cocteau Twins
Echo and the Bunnymen post-hiatus w/The Primitives (!)
Aztec Camera (!)
Happy Mondays
De La Soul

downsatirs:

Dinosaur Jr
Frank Sidebottom
The Real Sounds of Africa (!)

I'm sure there are others. They will come to me. I hope. I think I used to think bands were "too big" by the time they reached Barrowlands level.

I think my favourite venue was the Art School:

The Sugarcubes (!)

Followed by Rooftops:

Sonic Youth (!)
The Stone Roses (!)

i shall be in yr fair land from SATURDAY (12th) to THURSDAY (17th) but i will be mainly in EMBRA being ARTY. why don't you come over to see me (as i doubt i'll have time/energy to get over to glasgow)?the sunday (13th) is FRINGE SUNDAY when there are lots of ppl doing things on the meadows also i will be going to the pub with Dr Thompson and maybe KEITH on the saturday.

Isn't it normally the first weekend in August. The great thing is, I've been here for 15 years and I'm probably wrong.

ARTY is interesting! The festival is usually more JUGGLY than ARTY.

Leigh, if you fancy meeting up then we can work some place out. I'm terrible at it, though. Where are when are you arriving, Steve?

http://static.flickr.com/35/124757999_07851bc00a_b.jpg

We will, more than likely, be in Edinburgh on Wednesday evening. Pleasance FAP, yo.

I don't know what my plans are at the weekend but if there's something organised i'll try and drop by.

Anyway, for those who care about such things, Onimo is now the proud dad of a little girl. Megan was born at 11.33 this morning, weighing 6lb 12 oz.

I am glad you've revived this thread Alisa, I was going to start a Rolling Glasgow Gigging Thread but thought that might be a bit...forward.

Anyway, I am planning to go and see these things, I hope perhaps others might feel similarly inclined:

Tues 19th Sept - Pamela Kurstin @ Mono - She is a theremin improviser who has recorded for Zorn's Tzadik label

Thursday 21st Sept - Awesome Color @ Mono - Don't know much more abt them than that they're on Thurston Moore's Ecstatic Peace label and are some kind of 'rock' - as w/ the Kurstin gig, tickets are cheap enough to take a punt on, four quid or so

Friday 29th Sept - Rhythm and Sound gig - at somewhere called Afroyard, I think? (dunno where this is)

Sunday 8th October - Comets on Fire @ (wait for it) Mono - bought my ticket already for this, I've been digging one of their albs recently and thought they might be gd live - post HighRise Blue Cheerist rock scorch, sometimes with the 6 Organs fella (tho I don't know if he's w/ em for this one) - I'm hoping it will be loud good fun - and Acid Mothers Temple are also playing Mono in Nov, excellent.

I was tempted by the Davey Graham/John Renbourn/Alex Neilson gig but tickets are pretty expensive for that - £14 - and I trust the word of Dadaismus and others who say that Graham has pretty much lost the plot these days...sad... I wish Dick Gaughan was playing Glasgow, can't really afford to make it over to Edinburgh to see him this month

Plus Instal, of course!

http://www.doorsopendays.org.uk/

A cpl of my friends are going on the guided tour of the Necropolis, which will prob be great, but I may pick somewhere I haven't already visited, depending on time/energy/inclination

Ward, they are doing guided tours of Dennistoun. Learn about your neighbourhood! "next, this is the spot where Madchen was shot at through her living room window whilst watching telly, and round the corner is a pub featuring ailsa and onimo grabbing a quick pint and laughing at the locals before they go to the football, oh, erm, Lulu's from here, cheers folks, that's the entire history Dennistoun for you".

Ward, it's at the subclub. the night that is putting R&S on are called kinky afro (quite a misleading name - makes it sound like some kind of funk night, it's not) i'll be going to this (it's my birthday actually) so come along with me! will be going to instal too.

Hearty congratulations to onimo & family :)

And to Madchen too, congratulations on your starring role in the last issue of the uni's alumnus mag!

ATTN GRIMLY FIENDISH!!.

http://www.andaluzdistribuidora.com.br/images/Malibu%20Jamaicano.jpg

ATTN GRIMLY FIENDISH!!.

fuck fuck FUCK i am working late this week. F U C K. i will see what time i can get away on wednesday. FUCKETTY. fuck.

http://www.gla.ac.uk:443/newsdesk/events/details.cfm?Event_Number=2861

(also that is by far and away the most belated congratulations ever for my wedding - it's our fifth anniversary on Friday)

Seriously, Swallows and Amazons FAP, y'all. You get to go on quad bikes too, if you ask nicely. And pay.

has anyone been to the new squinty bridge yet, then? we drove over it from finnieston the other night. it's fucking great: like something out of GTA: vice city. (you half expect everything to stop so it can load the other side into memory.) only problem is you end up in confusing bloody govan, where one-way systems rule the roost and road signs are but a memory. and then when i did a U-turn the bridge seemed to have moved 90 degrees and we ended up at the grand ole opry instead.

still. squinty bridge. rock etc.

Haha! This is exactly how you speak!

the organ improv was grate, v. thinly attended, which was a shame (tho it is a really crap evening bus service from the East to the West End)

will keep you posted re: more shifts. and let's have a pint soon. in fact, we should ALL have a pint soon. including you, keith.

(insert obligatory "let's not go to Mono" plea)

ward: yes, the original cartoon strip was grimly feendish; the damned song mis-spelt it. that said, i actually took the name from dr grimly-fiendish in a children's book called "the founding of evil hold school" by nikolai tolstoy, which dates from 1968. now, i had this discussion with martin S on another thread and i'm pretty sure the cartoon strip predates the book, but ... ach.

i'll let someone else sort out beer plans so mono's not on the cards :) i'm on 2-10pm shifts next week so can do a late one. 10-6s the week after that. can't do fridays, saturdays or sundays for the forseeable future.

Well, funnily enough, I was out with Alex tonight and we were discussing having a pint with YOU. HERE, though probably. For a 'music listening' night, or we thought we could just take you to Planet Earth and request OMD b-sides.

will e-mail ...

are the wright sisters in glasgow? i haven't bothered to read the thread because it has london in the title. don't think i can make anything this weekend, mind.

Jed, I just opened this thread to say that I'm too tired and broke to make it along tonight - have a great birthday, hope we can meet soon (you and yr partner wld be more than welcome round at my place for an evening of food and drink and choons sometime)

xo
lp

if i said i was a fat bloke w/ a beard, that wld prob cover half the attendees at the fest! I will be there tonight w/ a friend who is staying w/ me, so I will look out for the ilx delegation

I will be in Glasgow on the 17th/18th Nov, but I may not be up for drinks, as I need to see my friend and her little girl who's in Yorkhill after reacting very badly to a virus which resulted in brain damage :0( If my friend doesn't want to go out on the friday night I'd be up for some company in the pub. I'll let you know when my friend gets back to me.

I am not sure about the Clyde waterfront at all - myself and Madchen were at the SECC once and we walked over the bridge to Pacific Quay and I turned round and, apart from the university tower poking out over the top of a building behind us, I didn't feel like I was in Glasgow at all - so much has changed since I moved here 15 years ago. I am somewhat not fond of things changing.

I just thought, for someone who hasn't been in Glasgow for over a decade, it was a good way to get a sense of what has changed.

Vicky, that sounds really nasty. Hope she's OK. And yes, let us know if you are going to be free then.

Good things to do in Glasgow include the Kelvingrove, which has recently re-opened after a multi£££ refurb, the transport museum and sausage suppers (although you get better chips in Ayrshire).

I am somewhat not fond of things changing

you're on to plums in this day and age, then, aren'tcha? :p

1) Seeing the pope in Bellahouston Park. I was young and needed to piss twice an hour. It was a long walk to the park, though not an interesting one, then.

2) Getting the train there with schoolfriends to shop for clothes/records. My understanding of Glasgow was how to get from the train station to the shops and back again. The back-again bit usually involved being set upon at the station by casuals to whom I would donate clothes/records/leftover money.

3) Later, but not much later, getting the bus/train there from Edinburgh to attend certain gigs, and staying on the floors of strangers/obnoxious penpals, usually via taxi rides to districts I could not name now nor then & being sent in the right direction somehow in the morning to the bus/train station.

I know less about Glasgow, which I have visited a dozen times at least, than many places I have been to once, or never. I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like. I will be there, I think, during the first week of December - does anything interesting happen then, besides that?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/musicscotland/bbcsso/features/wired2.shtml

14th Nov - ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE @ Mono
17th Nov - MV+EE MEDICINE SHOW @ Captain's Rest
28th Nov - BARDO POND/JACKIE-O MOTHERFUCKER @ Mono
2nd Dec - THE SKATERS @ Captain's Rest

I like mild surprises, I suppose, and some people. sorry

my considered opinion on the "clyde waterfront" is that it is not a thing. it is also v long & expensive, a secret, overconfident, a commitment, a responsibility, by the river, out-of-date, new, crowded & crowding, disconnected & disconnecting, unrealistic & I'm not sure if/when/where it ever wouldn't be, conclusively inconclusive/inconclusively conclusive, not what I want, now, and where?

I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like.

i have no idea what i'm talking about. does anyone? for what it's worth: i like mono, sleazy's, the station bar and the pot still; i like the canton express, amalfi, cafe hula and that place round the corner from mono whose name escapes me; having been to london for the weekend, i like the fact that glasgow is of a size where you can actually enjoy it rather than feel you're constantly missing out.

i dunno: i've been here 10 years and i'm still exploring. best way, surely?

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:-)

I remember the name Bon Accord but I do not remember where it is. I don't think it was very indie.

The waterfront area was always a bit disconnected/disconnecting though, except when it were all shipyards (I imagine). For instance, if you go to a concert there, you have to walk across a huge empty car park afterwards, which feels very exposed, in contrats to the carefully choreographed pseudo-intimacy of the concert experience.

I hope your friend's little girl is OK, Vicky.

I would like to work for the BBC there. Surely the whole point of working for the BBC to have access to the BBC canteen. I have reason to believe it is a source of hilarity.

Have they vacated the place by the Botanics?

I find the necropolis quite disconnecting too. In fact, a lot of places in Glasgow are disconnecting, or were.

the SECC or whatever they call it is really rubbish, yes

the bon accord is on st. george's road, south of the mitchell library, near a harley davidson shop, I think

Ward, i'm going to the SSO thing on sat.

the rogers sisters are playing on tuesday at some place called ABC 2, you should all go because they are great!!

That SSO thing looks awesome.

ABC and ABC2 have marvellously well-stocked bars for gig venues.

I forgot to pass on good wishes for Vicky's friend's daughter. And, yes, I should be available to spend some time with you on the Friday should you so wish.

we were discussing this, a wee while ago. the concept

cookie & cozen & anna all remembered diff brands, I think, and we thought it must have been local stuff

go somewhere else and talk you attention seeking fucks!!!

what's up with people?

Worst I can remember was a certain editor's going away bash. He'd asked Stuart Murdch and Stevie Jacksn along to do an acoustic set. Right through practically the entire assembled shower of hacks talked, loudly, as if there was nobody there. They walked off in the middle of the second song.

They do a buffet on a Tuesday night and also a dish with chilli, tequila and lime mussels.

I'm keen to try.

In the mythical 80s there were groups of people who would talk through all the concerts in Glasgow. I was a bit taken aback at the time, but then I was an anti-social misery guts and they were probably having a better time than me, and it was usually loud enough to drown them out.

Of course, if my plan to make everyone do a stint at teaching insterad of national service were taken up by the governemnt, all performers would be able to shut everyone up with a withering glance or a few well-chosen nuggets of sarcasm.

that's funny. the way i remember it, everybody was happily chatting and these two tools with a guitar turned up and got pissy that nobody was showering them with adulation ;)

put it this way: colin the copy kid's band got a fuck of a sight more respect, and there might have been a reason for that.

and come on, apples and oranges: jazza's leaving do was a party which had the added bonus of a couple of bands playing. nobody came to see the bands; i think only 10 people in the entire room gave an iota of a fuck about two blokes from belle and sebastian playing a set. but if this was an actual gig and people had actually come especially to see them then yes, it's STFU-you-wankers time.

my overriding memory of that - and this comes from speaking to jackson later - is of two prima donnas thinking they should be the main attraction at someone else's party and getting uppity when they realised that, actually, a lot of people couldn't give a toss about them.

put it this way: colin the copy kid's band got a fuck of a sight more respect, and there might have been a reason for that.
Yeh: the singer was a 15-year-old lass in a skin-tight dress who they were all ogling.

i believe there is photographic evidence of some of the night's later proceedings, yes :(

Yeh: the singer was a 15-year-old lass in a skin-tight dress who they were all ogling.

i don't remember this at all. i just remember they seemed to have good keyboard lines. thinking about it now, i'm not sure they had keyboards. hmm.

and IIRC *everybody* was talking because they didn't realise the band had fucking started. it was only when i heard what sounded like a gossamer fairy playing "transmission" on an invisible glockenspiel that i looked up to see you standing transfixed, on your own, in front of the stage :p

Next Thursday, I'm going to an AWARDS CEREMONY. Posh, eh?

Triptych 07: April 25 – 29: Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen.

We’re delighted to announce that minimalist pioneer Terry Riley – an extraordinary composer and musician whose work revolutionised and redefined 20th Century music – will play three extremely rare shows as part of Triptych 07. Riley will perform his groundbreaking 1964 masterpiece ‘In C’ at Edinburgh Usher Hall on April 25. April 26 marks a brand new reworking of the electronic landmark ‘A Rainbow in Curved Air (Revisited)’, plus excerpts from a work-in-progress, ‘The Book of Abbeyozzud’, at Glasgow Tramway. Riley also visits Aberdeen Cowdray Hall on April 27. Tickets on-sale now!

all night flight, please!

I think I posted this info on another Glasgow thread

My preference wld be for the Rainbow In Curved Air performance (tho' I'm a bit dubious abt this 'reworking' biz) but I'm not sure I can afford to go to any of the shows - tickets are like £25 a pop, and I am sooooooo broke at present :-((

OK. I will be out of work at about five - that'll give me time to go home and get dinner and come back out rather than hanging around the town for two hours.

(Unless onimo or someone else fancies keeping me company in the pub for a couple of hours and a dodgy beer'n'burger)

I could maybe finish a bit early and grab something to eat with you - depending on how busy I am and what time I get in at. I'm on a flexitime mission at the moment and I've become a total slave to the clock.

i'm working till 10pm on wednesday but i should be able to join you for a swift one somewhere.

Wednesday? I thot yese were going out on Friday, no?

Friday was a plan, yes. But now aldo is coming up on Wednesday, so that means pub-going is happening then. Friday is still possibly a possibility, perhaps, though probably not since it was something me and grimly had said ages ago and he's probably gone and double-booked himself, the big tit.

G L A S G OW

Is that like D I S C O ?

Or D I V O R C E ?

not sure i'm going to be able to get out tonight now. sorry. i'll try to play it by ear. although you'll all be so pissed by the time i finish work anyway ... :)

I shall look forward to seeing you if you make it. First one in Sporto to grab a decent table pls.

I think I'm having a dodgy Wetherburger with ailsa at 6pm so we should be in Sporto by 7.

Rhoderick Dhu next door might be less busy and still has big screens...

I will probably meet you for a Wetherburger, though 6 might be slightly pushing it for me. Which one?

I am easy on the pub front.

Edward G Wylie, on Bothwell St.

so how was it? sorry i missed you, aldo (and indeed fappery in general). i ended up working late, with the car, because i had to drive to kilmarnock at lunchtime. think tomorrow's fucked as well. i'm off to hide under a stone and mutter into my sideburns.

But great sideburns they are. Probably.

This never happened.

Without having read a single word of this thread I say this: I think we will be visiting, but it might take us a year or so to save up to do it. I'm really excited about this trip.

Tell me about it!

Long story but, within a morning's notice I booked a 4 night trip there beginning this friday.

And yes, there's both an Optimo and Instruments of Rapture nights on the same weekend (!!!!!!!!).

Also, I have no idea about anything in Glasgow other than the Sub Club, so I will take any tips I can get. Thanks.

I'll be at optimo on Friday and Horse Meat Disco at the berkeley suite on the saturday. see you at one (or both?). You are coming up from London but you're from the US, is that correct EDB?

Close! I'm from Canada, specifically Toronto, and am generally just impressed that anyone here knows/remembers that.

damn, i should have known that, in fact, since i've spent so much time there. are you on your own or with friends? i used ilx webmail to send you a PM with my number and my direct email.

Cool, though I received no such webmail (that email address was recently deactivated and evidently doesn't forward things anymore) but if you'd like to resend it to 3dd1e b4cal at gmail.com feel free.

I'll probably be a mix of time with my brother and time alone.

Is it standard practice to arbitrarily weed out people in the queue for optimo? On the dubious allegation I was too drunk to get in, I was refused entry at like 11:30 - a bitter pill for someone who hasn't drank since he was 18.

Anyways, I am NOT impressed.

sux

what!? that is bizarre. i've never heard the like of that EDB.

Yeah, I even stood on one foot, touched my nose, and volunteered to recite the alphabet backwards. It didn't make any sense, and he refused to hear me out. Sucks cause that was among the primary reasons I came here.

eddie i emailed you - let me know if you got it. if not mine is colinohara at gmail

is this city as romantic as the Blue Nile's music makes it seem?

only when you're listening to the Blue Nile

the east end of glasgow is having a massive thunderstorm...in august...right now - dunno if that counts as romantic