Chicago: Beef, Love and Understanding

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it is time.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

The lack of a serial comma in the thread title is really going to bother me.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i went back and forth on that one. and in the end, i decided, "I know! I'll do the thing that annoys jaymc!"

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(not really)

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Should have been "Beef-Love and Understanding."

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

AP STYLE YEAH!

― n/a, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Do you have to use AP style at your job, Nick? I feel sorry for you.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

(More than usual, I mean.)

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I severely underdressed today. After the last couple of days, I was like, "Hoo-kay! No more winter!" And then, today, ice pants.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i gotta hand it to nu-code: it's crazy fast.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? The only time that I ever thought that old-ILX was slow was when I wanted to load a large thread with lots of images (like if clicked on View All Messages on a 500+ post Chicago thread) -- but I just figured that any site with that much data would be slow to load.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, I just opened up an old Chicago thread, clicked on View All Messages, and it does seem to be marginally faster. But I still don't see this as making any sort of day-to-day impact for me.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

All that marginally fasterness will add up in the end, and eventually save you like entire hours of time that you can spend getting more people to come to see your band play.

I do need to ask, though: WHAT ABOUT KEVIN???

Also: BOO KENAN ON THE COMMA ISSUE.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

and eventually save you like entire hours of time that you can spend getting more people to come to see your band play.

I don't want to do that. The e-mails should be sufficient.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Clearly you don't care enough, John. CLEARLY.

So are you excited for Ethiopian Beer Dinner or WHAT?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Because I am wicked excited.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

YES I AM.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: BOO KENAN ON THE COMMA ISSUE.

Boo everyone on the comma issue. Suck it up.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

All that marginally fasterness will add up in the end

More than that, it won't strain the server as much, so, less poxy fuling downtime mess.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

it's more than marginally faster...it's really noticeable to me.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it burns.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm, yeah, it's weird, whenever my computer at home is being slow, ILX is always the one site that works perfectly fine.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

OOOk now.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that Sarah?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup. C'est moi.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Why does it keep going back to the New Answers page?

― KitCat, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't they realize I only want to post on this one thread? ha ha

― KitCat, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

That's being sorted out.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

the navigation is one of the biggest gripes i have right now. it was obviously designed by programmers. :)

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

You were obviously designed by programmers.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Your mom was obviously designed by programmers.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

meet the new jaymc, 30% more needlessly hostile. Welcome, brother!

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew this woman in college who was kind of a borderline-personality disorder type mean person to begin with by anyway, when she was in high school her mom died and that was really sad. She was in her late 20s when I knew her. Anyway, we all went through a phase of reflexive "your mom" type responses (ie see above) that went hand in hand with "If it were up your ass you'd know where it was" when people would ask where something was. And everytime somebody would reflexively say "Your mom" to or around this person she would say, "My mom is dead." and get up and leave the conversation.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

And it was a real drag the way she let her grief over the tragic and untimely death of her mother, to whom she was very very close, totally ruin our juvenille jokes. Dragsville, population her.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a weird dream last night that my mom wanted to sleep with me, and she thought she was being secretive about her desire, except it was really obvious, and I was like, "Mom, just admit it!" Then I threw up a huge reddish log of poop.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

At some point later, there was a monkey that had wrapped its tail around my little finger and was crushing it. And I looked back at the monkey and made a face like "c'mon dude!" and the monkey made a face back like "haha u dumb," and then later someone had managed to wrangle the monkey by putting it in a large Ziploc bag inside an even bigger department-store bag, and I was supposedly in charge of releasing the monkey back into the wild -- which was really just the backyard of someone's beach house -- but I couldn't do it because I was afraid it would attack me again after I unZipped the bag.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The Freudians would have a field day with that first one, though.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm having a field day with it and I think Freud was a nitwit.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, but oral, anal, and Oedipal all at once!

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I tell you guys about my annoying coworker and the forks?

WELL we all share desks/computers and different people sit in different places on different days, just depending on who comes in and when so there's no set workspaces. So one day I'm at a desk and I'm looking for a paperclip or something and I come across a box of plastic flatware and I think, "Oh, hey, cool, plastic flatware, it must be for the office since we don't have set work stations and there is a bunch of other random crap in this drawer that is general use like pens and post its" because I am always forgetting to bring a fork or something and having to go downstairs and steal one from a food court restaurant. So the other day I make my horrible frozen dinner and open up the drawer to get a fork and the annoying coworker says, "You know, those are mine." And I had no idea! And I said so, and then said, "I guess I owe you a few forks because I've take a couple out of there already." And she said no biggie and I ate and that was the end.

Well, Wednesday I forgot a fork again and since I find her annoying, I decided to steal another fork from her. WELL DID U KNOW that she had put a piece of tape over the box lid! I don't know if that was a test or a warning or what, but I opened the damn box and took a fork. So today, I bought lunch and grabbed like five forks with the intention of putting them in her box of forks to replace the ones I have taken and not only was the box taped, but it was wrapped up in a plastic bag with a rubber band around it. CRAZY. So I put the forks on top of the box and went about my day.

And all the pens and post its are "hers" to, in that she got them out of the supply closet and made a little hoard in a desk where she sits about half a day out of the week.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

WAIT. I don't know if the box was taped because I didn't remove the rubber band/plastic bag. So she might not have taped the box back up again.

If Kevin were here, he would retell that story from the POV of the annoying coworker who doesn't understand why her bitchy coworker keeps taking her forks and it would be hilarious.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

That is nutso.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

If Kevin were here

RIP

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"My Kevin is dead."

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm glad you think it's nutso because I do and I wonder if it's just me being kind of nonchalant about owning things. I mean, if I bought I box of forks, I would say, "Hey I bought some forks so grab one if you need it" and put it on a shelf or something.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I am full of stories today.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, I just opened up an old Chicago thread, clicked on View All Messages

Where is the view all messages link? How many does it hide?

[i hate brackets]

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Once this puppy gets past 50 posts, it will show the first 50 and the last 50 and then in the middle there will be a link to show all.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

ohhhh

weird

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

we do not need to see the first 50 posts any more than we need a "clear" button.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, first 50 is dumb. What is a "clear" button?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

underneath the response field. "submit response" = yes. "clear" = wtf use could this possibly be

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"delete my post please, i do not like it and i don't know how to use a delete key!"

alternately: "submit response OH D'OH POST GONE FUCK YOU STUPID CLEAR BUTTON"

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe... mayyyyybe... it would be useful if it displayed xposts.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

GREAT SCOTT.

So anyway, I posted to the other thread too but I'll put it here: Kevin is fine. He's on his way home right now, didn't go to work today because he was too busy prepping for his WALK OF SHAME AT 2.30 PM. Yes. Sans underwear. And he's letting me post this whole explanation/debacle for your amusement so I hope you appreciate it.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

we do not need to see the first 50 posts any more than we need a "clear" button.

The thinking behind that is because we can't set it per-user, we need something that works both for logged in users, people coming to thread for the first time and googlers and that. So they see the first 50 posts and most recent 50, and if they're interested can see them all. The other choice was just last 50, which would mean much more clicking through for all posts as new comers tried to see the start of a thread.

That's the theory anyway.

God, I feel like a total intruder here. Hi Chicagoans! (is that the term?)

― .stet., Friday, 23 February 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

hi stet.

Yeah, it slipped my mind that we don't have per-user settings. No offense, mind you. Thanks for popping in! You're never an intruder.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicagonians

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

And yes, we are Chicagoans.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a weird dream last night that my mom wanted to sleep with me, and she thought she was being secretive about her desire, except it was really obvious, and I was like, "Mom, just admit it!" Then I threw up a huge reddish log of poop.

I can't decide whether to excelsior this or be incredibly ooked out by it.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I never ever want to read it or think about it again, so can you maybe not quote it anywhere else? Thanks.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

that's one vote for "ooked".

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, don't excelsior it. I don't want a reputation.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The correct term is "ooged."

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

As in, "That dream made me feel really oogy."

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

seconded.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Some things I learned today:
1) LOTS OF PEOPLE enjoy nacho cheese slopped over their red hot cheetos. I saw > 3 students enjoying this treat at breaktime today.

2) Students enjoy hiring STRIPPERS for their parties, or so I was told in the paragraph I edited for one student named N0rma.

3) My students do not respect me, or so I was told after I was (basically) bullied into letting class out early by a tiny little gangbanger-lookin' dude.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DANYO. Your birthday is my half birthday which means you are [x] years and 6 months younger than I am.

-- Armando Grouse (showdown@wormtown.net), February 23rd, 2007. (later)

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4) One more thing: TJ's frozen soba noodles are totally vile when prepared according to directions, but super yum when you add chili-sesame oil and some soy sauce.
-- Armando Grouse (showdown@wormtown.net), February 23rd, 2007. (later)

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Am I the onliest one here?
-- Armando Grouse (showdown@wormtown.net), February 23rd, 2007. (later)

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

TJ's frozen soba noodles

Frozen, huh. I was looking for soba noodles at TJs the other day, and they said they had been discontinued from the store. I was looking in the pasta/ethnic aisle, though.

LOTS OF PEOPLE

And by "people" you mean "black people," right?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Let me say that again: I SAW SEVERAL PEOPLE LADLING HOT CHEESE INTO THEIR RED HOT CHEETO BAGS AND EATING THEM WITH FORKS.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that is a new low, even for Americans.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure how many of them are "Americans."

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, so not black people.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

1. Not "black people" -- students of mine,only one of whom are "black people" and none of whom were in the class I had today. Jesus.

2. I ate the frozen ones. Also you can get soba noodles cheaper at Golden Pacific.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

one of whom IS

pardon me

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I would just like to say to lurking admin people that my hatred of the clear button is inspired by real events. I now have an irrational hatred of it.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

On the east coast, the kids like to buy a bag of Fritos corn chips and then ladle terrible 7-11 hot dog chili and cheese into the bag, thus creating chili cheese Fritos. I am thus not totally amazed by the nacho cheese on hot cheetos thing. I am a little grossed out by it, though.

How did the little gang banger dude bully you, Amanda? What are you going to do?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Also you can get soba noodles cheaper at Golden Pacific.

Will remember for later, as I've never been there.

I apologize if I sound racially insensitive, I've just never seen non-black people eating red-hot Cheetos before.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Is your fear also ripped from the headlines, Kenan?

Hi, Amanda.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Thus thus thus thus thus

My biggest beef of this here board is being whisked out to new answers against my will. I also don't understand why keeping people logged in is a server issue and not a browser cookie issue.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never seen anybody eat red hot Cheetos before, except me when I bought them by accident.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope Kevin's walk of shame was a happy one.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I did, in fact, ask whether he was happy. He said, "I'd be a lot happier if I had my underwear, it's cold out today."

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, first he and his friend always come late. No reason, just late. Then in the middle of explaining the meaning of various coordinating conjunctions, he raised his hand and said, "I gotta go, do we have homework?" Taken aback, I paused and wrote the hw on the board. Then I realized that there were only 10 min. left in class and we might as well just give up trying to start something new, so whatever. Then a bunch of ladies came up afterwards totally pissed at this dude because 1) he's always late 2) he chortles at less proficient students (I've never heard, but I believe them) and he's rude.

So I think that I'm going to give a smackdown lecture next week to remind them that I already lost my temper once about cellphones and I'm not afraid to tell the administration if someone isn't cooperating in class. Basically I have to act like a g-d high school teacher, which blows.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Is your fear also ripped from the headlines, Kenan?

THIS JUST IN: Kenan loses rambly 400 word post with single click! And is narcissistic enough to believe that people would have read it, anyway!

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I suggest you start snorting coke in the girls' bathroom after basketball practice.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

[i]I have never seen anybody eat red hot Cheetos before, except me when I bought them by accident. [/]
for real? i see people eating them literally ALL the time. way more than any other snack food, really.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

goddammit

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I also don't understand why keeping people logged in is a server issue and not a browser cookie issue.

this is adddressed in the nu faq.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I see Kenan has discovered the blockquote feature.

I mostly see red hot Cheetos on the Red Line.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the blockquote feature. what's it to ya, bub?

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I WILL END YOU.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe I am stuck being la lechera from here to eternity. also are we going to be able to change our email at some point? i don't want my real email to be accessible from the interweb. sorry if this is covered in the faq.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Nobody's e-mail is shown anywhere, is it?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, ok. But still.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

this is adddressed in the nu faq.

Not really. There are "sessions"? Okay, whatever, but why not put a login cookie in your browser? Is that incompatable with "sessions"? Are browser cookies a security issue now? I certainly don't think I'm coming up with a brilliant idea that nobody has thought of, mind you, I just don't see why this particular thing is something that they can't easily and safely fix.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The more I talk to people, the more I think that almost nothing was done without fore-thought. I don't know any computer stuff but I'm sure there are reasons.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that incompatable with "sessions"?

I don't know the first thing about Java. Won't even pretend to.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

the more I think that almost nothing was done without fore-thought

explain me clear button

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't asked about it, actually, but I did say almost nothing.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure there are reasons, too. Most of this stuff I think either "Eh, that's beyond me," or "Eh, that makes enough sense that I don't care." The login thing is just one of those things that I understand just enough about to NOT understand why it's a problem and I am therefore curious and interested in a better explanation of the process. Dig?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Note: Not curious or interested enough to actually go ask one of the UBERILXORS about it. Just interested enough to ponder "aloud" on my home thread.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, see, I don't understand one single thing about any of it, so I'm a blank and trusting slate.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, it's no so hard to understand; it's standard stuff for long forms with lots of fields. but that's not a good enough reason for it to be here.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is frustrating because it feels too much like my job (testing software interfaces for usability, among other things) and I wish I could write QA notes to the developers, which they would have to fix.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

clear button, obv

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There, here see, what that pesky Jon Williams said on the "Welcome to New ILX" thread:

Dudes, its not that hard to put a magic authentication cookie on the client that will start a new session.

This is what I keep thinking. Except I don't use the word "dudes."

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

so, to recap:

• kenan has a hard on for the clear button
• no xpost previews will create big messes
• plz to return to thread i just posted on, not new answers page
• don't fence me in, and don't log me out
• lobster, champagne, picnics, and butt sex

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody is in the hallway chanting, "Cream cream cream cream soda" and it's a wee bit freaky.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny: The problem is this: The tomcat sessions expire after 30 minutes of inactivity, which means people have to log in again. It keeps track of sessions via a cookie. So, if you keep a browser using the site, you'll stay logged in indefinitely, as long as you keep active every 30 minutes.

However, for some retarded and hard-coded reasons, tomcat sets those cookies with an immediate expiry time "at the end of this session". So, if you quit your browser (on PC, this just means closing the window(!), on Mac you actively have to quit) it'll delete the cookie, and you'll be logged out, regardless of your activity. This is rubbish. And being looked at for bestest method of fixing.

Solution for now: minimise browser window, don't close it. I'll update the FAQ with this too.

― .stet., Friday, 23 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

going to unread messages isn't taking me to the last unread message.

― Jeff, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

test

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

nut to butt

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

test2

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

stet - thanks, chief! That makes sense. It's putting a cookie there, but it's a cookie that disappears when you close the browser. I appreciate both your patience with all the bitching and your willingness to dumb things down a little for me.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah stet -- your efforts are massively appreciated. and if i freak my shit about something stupid from time to time, it means nothing more than that i am a touch unstable.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's true. He's about as stable as a whiskerless three legged cat with an inner ear disorder.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

but i'm never boring

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

no, that's no true, either.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

THAT NO TRUE

― n/a, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

NO NO NO NO

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

BOXCAR

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin's out, someone had to.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

you fill hole

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

So many interpretations!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

fillweed

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently Microsoft Sam (the free text-to-speech thing in WinXP) doesn't recognize Dillweed as a valid name/word.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Nor "Heb3rt"

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Why, Jordan, are you listening to ILX?

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ILX: The Audiobook

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's for work. But I'm having way too much fun getting it to say stupid shit.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Although it can say "Jordan C0hen the housekeeper with the really long and barbaric name yaaaaaaay"

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I just read all of my blog posts from 2003. Blah...g.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand "boxcar."

I am now at the office, pulling nighttime emergency sub duty in case anyone doesn't show. Yay.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"BOXCAR" is apparently what the grandpa in For Better or For Worse says because he's senile now and swears all the time.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, alright.

I'm still not sure I get it. Is this some sort of Family Circle type joke?

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure about this guys. B-day drinks for a co-worker are at Blue Agave.

This place may as well have a giant sombrero crowning it; the decor at Blue Agave is nothing if not Mexican-themed kitsch. Be prepared for papier-mache toucans, Mexican flags and banners and Jose Cuervo's name in lights. Literally.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

You should be authentic and bring some red hot cheetos with cheese sauce on them.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

that sounds...festive.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, someone posted the comic on a thread somewhere, and its sheer absurdity turned it into a meme. There was some fun had at Dr. Morbius's expense when some people edited all of his posts on the Noise Board (where everyone has admin powers) to say "BOXCAR" at the end.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

heironymous bosch could not create such fresh hell.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok thank you, that explains it a little more clearly. I am not up on the current meme inventory.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The DC thread started it. Make THEM have a time out.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Such smarty pantses over there.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, btw -- I used the ball of pants photo for an extra credit question on my quiz today. They had to write at least 2 sentences about the photo, using at least one adj. and one adv.

Almost everyone described it as a "ball of pants." I should post some of the answers. They're awesome.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

totally plz do that

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, wish me luck people. I'm off to drink a margarita as big as my head and sing along to classic rock party anthems. And then I think I may poop out my mouth.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm off to bake shit.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

1. They absorb around the pyramid of pants.
2. The people usually go to this place. This is a pyramid.
3. This sculpture don't look easy.
4. The boys are impress to see the ugly ball.
5. I'm not sure but the big ball has a lot pants.
6. It is letting us know that we are all in this world together and we are not going anywhere. (this is the bully)
7. A lot of jeans you can create art.
8. Some people do not seem interested in the rare ball.
9. They are curious about how many jeans are in the interesting ball.
10. An enormous ball of jeans represents the ball of problems in the city.
11.This picture looks like big ball full of jeans.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

It is letting us know that we are all in this world together and we are not going anywhere.

That's actually kind of astute. You may have a Dangerous Minds situation on your hands here.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

That's the thing about this dude. He's pretty smart, just cocky and very rude.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Compare that to "The boys are impress to see the ugly ball."

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

HI. I'm late, sorry about that. I was over in the sandbox still, pooping out of my mouth.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 February 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

idon'tlikethisplace

― Jesse, Friday, 23 February 2007 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

You'll get used to it.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi guys. It appears that I can log in from home.

Thank you very much, peeps who came out and sat through Logan's Run. It was a good birthday.

― dan m, Saturday, 24 February 2007 08:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for an interesting b-day! We should do that again.

I went to Lalo's wwhich is apparently a big fat Latino club, primarily, and NOT mostly a tapas place. I got a ride home.

― Jesse, Saturday, 24 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Dan -- sorry I didn't make it. I got home last night and felt like, after two nights of lots of drinking, I should just stay in. So Kr and I ordered sushi and played Upwords.

― jaymc, Saturday, 24 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Logan's Run is so bad! I loved it. I had fun at your birthday, too, Dan. For some reason I expected your roommate to be nerdier or something. He's pretty smooth for somebody who plays a lot of Animal Crossing.

― Jenny, Saturday, 24 February 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I was at the Lake Red Line station tonight at around 11 when a black guy barrelled down the stairs and rain into a crowd of people, yelling "Fuck you fucking white people" and other suggestions. Another guy who seemed to know him was chasing him around trying to control him, but he was having was not to be deterred from reminding whitey that this is Black History Month and they should be made to ride in the back of the train. He ran into a group of people standing near the edge of the platform and almost knocked some of them over the edge.

A CTA security person told him to leave, but he just yelled "Fuck you too, you fucking bitch! Fuck you, your mama's white!" (She was black.) He topped off his performance by getting on the escalator, riding it about a quarter of the way up, then falling down to the bottom.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 February 2007 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Freezing rain + Chicago style wind = uh-oh.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 February 2007 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=xJd5U5oRH2k]Uh-oh.[/url]

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 February 2007 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit.

Do not not watch this.

[fuck nu-ILX]

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 February 2007 06:41 (seventeen years ago) link

John, when you were talking about the Watts Riots, I was thinking of the MOVE bombing in Philadelphia, although Philadelphia did have a big old race riot in 1964, the year before Watts.

― Jenny, Sunday, 25 February 2007 08:20 (seventeen years ago) link

No more weather talk. please.

― Jeff, Sunday, 25 February 2007 08:40 (seventeen years ago) link

R.I.P. D@n|el_M@rt|n's_iPod: 5/2004-2/2007

― dan m, Sunday, 25 February 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

What happened?

― Jeff, Sunday, 25 February 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Old age? I'm not sure. I can't get it to mount, when it does I can only work with it for a short while and then I get the beachball of doom. I managed to get it to "Restore" to the factory settings (wiped all my music and files) and still can't get it to work. My roomie has had 2 of them and says it's the same behavior that happened when his died. So, now I guess I have some decisions to make. If this really is the end, I'm kind of surprised it lasted as long as it did.

― dan m, Sunday, 25 February 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

My 3 year old iPod just died too, and so did Justin's!!!!!

What I posted on my blog about this morning:

Holy shit, it's like Mad Max: Beyond Snowglobe out there. I stayed at a friend's house downtown last night and within a two block radius this morning I saw a woman cross-country skiing through the streets, people grilling out in the snow, and a dude in a Mexican wrestling mask driving some half-snowmobile/half-car contraption through the streets wielding a shovel. I seriously expected to see some half-Yet motherfuckers who've already adapted to our new environmental conditions.

― Jordan, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

The rattling and creaking trees are the most worrisome for me. Greensboro's big ice storm of a few years back resulted in several deaths and more injuries. A girl I knew got a half a tree inside of her bathroom via the roof.

The other thing is the fact that it snowed first, then it rained, so the rain had nowhere to drain, so now there are ponds everywhere, especially at curbs where you have to either plunge your foot in or make a dangerous leap into the slipperiness.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - My mom, dad, and brother lived in LA during the Watts riots. My dad was in the awning business and got out of work early when they started.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't get it to mount, when it does I can only work with it for a short while

Sounds like my prom night.

― jaymc, Sunday, 25 February 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish you could all come to my house today and be cooked for, I am in super productive happy making-things mode after yesterday's cleaning & organizing spazz. What a great weekend.

― Laurel, Sunday, 25 February 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG JORDAN WE'RE LIKE SISTERS!

In other news (good thing it was my birthday Friday): 8GB Nano get!

It may have a smaller capacity but there's no moving parts, the battery *supposedly* lasts 24 hours, it's so, so much smaller... I'm filling it up right now. I hope this will help me keep from getting stagnated listening to the same things over and over again, because I'll be forced to swap stuff out more often by the small hard drive.

― dan m, Sunday, 25 February 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh oh I've had my ipod for 3 years and two months.

― n/a, Sunday, 25 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, I finally finished reading "Against the Day," after spending about a month and a half with it. In celebration, I went to the library and checked out new stuff to read - pure nonfiction this time.

― n/a, Sunday, 25 February 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Plz to recommend books?

― dan m, Sunday, 25 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I figured out why I couldn't log in from work: because I am dumb. I had saved the server-generated password in Firefox and not my regular password.

― dan m, Sunday, 25 February 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

am i logged in?

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 25 February 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess so.

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 25 February 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

YAY KEVIN!

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan - what do you feel like reading? The book I just started is called "The Colony" and it's the history of the leper colony in Hawaii. It's pretty f'ed up.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll read anything, I guess. Just been kind of out of the loop with newer books lately. The one you mentioned sounds pretty interesting.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 01:52 (seventeen years ago) link

If you haven't already, read Lolita.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, so date boy calls a LOT. He called me at midnight on Dan's B-day, then twice the next day, then a text message, all of which I missed b/c I was at work.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Read non-fiction.

― Jeff, Monday, 26 February 2007 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

How is that helpful?

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I've actually been on kind of a non-fiction kick for a little while, what with the Iraq Study Group Report and the Motorcycle Diaries.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

YAY KEVIN!

― horseshoe, Monday, 26 February 2007 06:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Test

http://contentor.net/index/help/BBCode

[url=http://contentor.net/index/help/BBCode]TEST BBCode[/url]

TEST bbcode

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

1. Why won't it make the URL a link automatically?

Also, the 2nd line is the result of using Firefox's BBCode extension (hilighting text, right clicking, choosing Clipboard, then Make Selection URL).

The 3rd line is the result typing [ link Test BBCode] URL [ / link ].

Is there more than one standard of BBCode?

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Even though it looks like BBCode, this isn't actually BBCode.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I asked that same question, Jesse and yeah. It's not standard BBCode. So the extension will still work for bold, italics, and

Blockquotes

but not for images or links.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone else ever had a Chicago Card that just stopped working? Mine has, apparently. The station attendent told me "it's bent, you're not supposed to bend them" which is hilarious, cause as I'm sure you all know, my FAVORITE PASTIME is sitting around, bending my Chicago Card!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Mine stopped, but not because of any physical damage, but because the CTA has gone worthless.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night my work hosted a pre-Oscars dinner party and auction to benefit autism. They were auctioning off 5 mink stoles (not pelts, but knitted mink fur) and couple won one for $500 for their daughter who was no older than 9. HUH.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Mornin guys.

I'm actually pretty ok with the Oscar results. Marty seemed positively thrilled. And I think America should do what it has to do to keep Scorsese happy. That is my patriotic sentiment of the week.

Thumbs down to: Eddie Murphy getting robbed, Little Miss Sunshine winning Original Screenplay. The movie was pure artificial buzz. There was nothing award-worthy about it at all. THAT OSCAR WAS PURCHASED.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan: Yes! I've had one stop working and Jeff has had two just stop working. And it's not because you bend them; that attendant is a dimwit. None of the cards that have gone tits up on us were ever bent. Do you have your account set for the unlimited monthly rides? My theory is that when you've got an unlimited number of rides, CTA Central Chicago Card Services randomly deactivates the card so you have to pay for individual rides on top of your monthly fee. And then you have to pay the $5 replacement card fee. I say this because I change my Chicago Card to a per-ride charge during the school year because of my U-Pass and it's never just not worked in the same way as the unlimited cards have not worked. Also I think the CTA is run by crooks and extortionists. Aaaaand I'm paranoid. And cynical.

Eddie Murphy should have thought about his Oscar nomination before he made that abominable Norbert movie. Karmically, I think that worked out just right.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

And it was obvious that Scorsese was going to win when the cabal of old white men directors came out to present the award. They might as well have just started chanting "ONE OF US ONE OF US" instead of reading the card.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Good morning!

"O" alarm clock update:
He broke up with his girlfriend over the phone yesterday. Or rather, she broke up with him. He was very loud about it, shouting defensively, so that I could every word just sitting in the living room. Apparently, he did a very bad thing, which ...you just can't let go, Emily! I've done everything I can to make it up to you.. EVERYTHING. And yet you just keep bringing it up and keep bringing it up... And a while later he started half-crying You are not going to make me cry! Not this time! I won't cry. I won't. Because you think men who cry are weak. But I've only cried in front of you twice. And one time I was drunk! And that was a very emotional time in my life and I was barely scraping by. And I have my act together now and NO, you will not make me cry this time... At that point, it was getting too embarrasing so I had to go back to the bedroom where I couldn't hear the conversation as well.

Then this morning, he rang the alarm at 7am.

In conclusion, he had a girlfriend. Now he doesn't. But happy ending, huh? He can still get off. THE END

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. "he rang the alarm"?

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

JERKED OFF LOUDLY.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

And it was obvious that Scorsese was going to win when the cabal of old white men directors came out to present the award.

As I said on another thread, George Lucas was an odd choice for The Great Triumverate. They kinda made a joke about it -- "He's never won an Oscar" -- but they failed to mention that he's an awful director, and a pretty darn bad writer, too. And he has no chin. Grow a chin, then we'll talk.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. "he rang the alarm"?

I think this only supports the theory that the girlfriend was never present, since she is clearly not integral to this process.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

George Lucas's chin terrifies me even more than his last three Star Wars movies. What is going on there?

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It's like he had it removed.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

And then replaced with raw bread dough.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

What a boring Oscars. At least the part I watched. We turned it off like 2 hours in, which was still before almost all of the major awards. I like Ellen in general but they needed more EXCITEMENT and SPECTACLE. Whenever I see one of these shows I start daydreaming about being nominated for an Oscar or Grammy, winning, but refusing the award. You would instantly be the coolest person ever. Evidence: Marlon Brando and George C. Scott.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, we talked about refusing awards before, didn't we?

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh! The other thing I did not like: Pan's Labyrinth winning over Children of Men in the cinematography category. Pan's Labyrinth was good-looking, no doubt, very slick and polished. But Children of Men was *amazing* looking, this giant feat of cinematography. How could they miss that?

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

A classic exchange.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

1970: Calling the Oscars "a two-hour meat parade," GEORGE C. SCOTT announces that he will refuse the Best Actor award if he wins (for playing WWII general George Patton in Patton). On the big evening, presenter Goldie Hawn rips open the Best Actor envelope and squeals, "Oh my God! The winner is George C. Scott!" True to his word, Scott is home in New York watching a hockey game on TV. He's the first actor ever to refuse an Oscar.

1973: "Hello. My name is Sacheen Littlefeather. I'm Apache and... I'm representing MARLON BRANDO this evening." So says a young woman in Indian garb who takes the microphone after Marlon Brando wins the Best Actor award for The Godfather. Brando, not to be outdone by George C. Scott, has sent Littlefeather to protest the treatment of Native Americans in the movies. The audience reacts with confusion and scattered boos. Actor Clint Eastwood, announcing the Best Picture award moments later, says "I don't know if I should present this award on behalf of all the cowboys shot in John Ford westerns over the years."

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I could make a username on here, or a signature line because I'm feeling like saying to the world, "Arbiter of Toast"

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

Oh, now you're just cutting me down for the sake of doing it. I suppose I have earned this in the past.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

My car got stuck in my driveway this morning, and I don't even HAVE a driveway. I need to buy a damn shovel today.

Some of my bandmembers from Chicago and Mpls got snowed in yesterday so we had a kick-ass Oscar party w/Ian's pizza. Sad that Marky Mark didn't win, glad that Forest did.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Up next: Jenny explains that she actually meant what she said, but in clearer terms; Kenan says something worshipful of her.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Jenny a lot. It's true.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Kenan, I'm not cutting you down for the sake of doing it. I'm responding that way because it irritates the shit out of me when you speak derisively of others for the simple crime of not agreeing with your opinion. OPINION. That means that it's not a truth, no matter how lofty a statement you might make about it.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

My car got stuck in my driveway this morning, and I don't even HAVE a driveway. I need to buy a damn shovel today.

So it snowed so hard that you got a driveway?

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse got the order wrong.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

OMFG!!!

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It's freezing cold in my office and work is really slow again. We're supposed to have pizza today for our boss's birthday but a bunch of people are working from home. I just want to read more of my book.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus, what brought this on? I'm talking about academy voters, ffs! Not you or anyone else I know or even know of. Just a faceless mass of voters that it's ok to disagree with as much as you like, in my book.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I may have backed myself into a corner? Where now anything I speak negatively of will be interpreted as my being unfair and hysterical?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

In defense of Kenan, when you're talking about subjective things like which movie is better, it's a given that any statement made is an opinion. Thus it's not really necessary to couch your statements.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess that's not really what you're talking about though.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, I have a little area behind my garage, but when the plows go through the street they pile up a bunch of snow there. I thought I could get out but nope. A cute girl even stopped and tried to drive while I pushed, which didn't work at all. I had to go borrow a shovel from a dude across the street.

AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE AN OSCAR PARTY CAUSE AN OSCAR PARTY DON'T STOP

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched some of Patton yesterday. The part that sticks out in my memory is when he tells his assistant to post a 24 hour guard on a U.S. cemetary, because otherwise the "damn dirty Arabs" will come and dig up the corpses for their clothes. Then he talks about facing Rommel one-on-one in tanks to decide the outcome of the war.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, it's just the consistent WAY you state opinions: as statements of great (lofty) authority, so strongly stated that they might as well be facts (along the lines of "Feces is NOT for eating"). This is not the same as being confident in your opinion. It comes across like you're the self-appointed arbiter of taste (as I've said before).

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, man. Children of Men had some pretty f'in awesome camerawork.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, this kind of thing is very political, too... the reason that movie didn't get more awards is because the studio fell down on the job of campaigning for it, or even marketing it. They were just kinda stumped as to what to do with it. And technical Oscars usually go to movies that are winning all the other oscars, not to movies that are most deserving.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Decent Oscar moments: Tom Hanks actually being pretty funny on the spot ("YES CHRIS, MORE FUN."), Ennio Morricone being cranky Italian dude

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to see Lives of Others now. Word has it that it's really great.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Children of Men should have won more awards I think, but then again I didn't see much of the competition.

The foreign language movie montage made me want to check out all 50.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I was sad how few of those movies I had seen. Some of them I've seen a dozen times, some I've never even heard of.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

Guys, I know what you're talking about w/r/t Kenan, but this was still somewhat of a surprise because Children of Men won the Cinematographers' Guild award.

What a boring Oscars. At least the part I watched. We turned it off like 2 hours in, which was still before almost all of the major awards. I like Ellen in general but they needed more EXCITEMENT and SPECTACLE.

Nick in hating the Oscars shocker. It maybe wasn't as memorable as most years, but I thought it was pretty entertaining. One thing I did notice, though, is that Ellen didn't really make jokes based on what had just happened. Maybe there just wasn't enough to make jokes about, like Three 6 Mafia's acceptance speech last year, or Jack Palance's one-handed push-ups.

I want to see Lives of Others now. Word has it that it's really great

It's pretty good, yeah. Kr and I saw it last week.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

One thing that did make the Oscars interesting this year was just how unpredictable it was. Two years ago, I think I had 14/15 in my office pool. This year I had 8/15. I even got half my money back last night for tying for last place among the nine people betting at the party I was at.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

What did you get wrong? The director, best actor & actress, and best supporting actress categories all seemed pretty locked up, and Arkin wasn't that much of a stretch for best supporting actor (veteran actor in a "surprise" nomination). Even The Departed for Best Pic didn't seem that surprising, given that they basically had to give director to Scorcese and Best Director & Best Pic often go together. Were there lots of weird categories in your office pool?

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Wins I wouldn't have predicted: Supporting Actor, Animated Feature, Cinematography, Costumes, Foreign Film, Song, Best Picture, and maybe both Screenplay awards.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still fuzzy on the line between visual effects and art direction. I guess visual effects is a purely technical award, and art direction is more big picture?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Going back to earlier:

Do you have your account set for the unlimited monthly rides?

No, I have the blue Card, the one that you just add money to when you want. It's so totally not bent, either. Well, no more than any of the other cards in my wallet, which all still work (including the scan card I have for doors at work, very similar to the Chicago Card). Of course now it has ~15 dollars on it and I can't use it. I'm going to their goddamned offices tomorrow to raise hell.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicagoist correctly picked Best Song by showing that Dreamgirls' three nominations would split its vote, and Randy Newman has won a billion times before (I think they said last night he's been nominated 17 times!) and his song on Cars sucks.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

HELLS YEAH

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't disagree with what you said, Kenan. I liked Children of Men just fine and I didn't see Pan's Labrynth so I can't even express an opinion on it. And my Oscar-related opinions are pretty much in line with Nick's (except that I like to see what people wore, it is true). But my issue isn't with the content, it's with the form. We can be takling about, oh I don't know, office supplies or brands of lip balm and I would have responded to you in a similarly exasperated way.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I called Randy Newman and James Taylor together onstage as a "Summit of Suck."

Julia thought it was funny, anyway.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Randy Newman, I wish he had sung the song instead of Lames Taylor.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny: I will take more care with my lofty accolades in the future. I like Jesse's point that this kind of rhetoric does not convey confidence in my opinions... more like browbeating.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

James Taylor looks like Lurch these days.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.retroheadz.de/castle-frankentele/images/lurch.jpg
[Removed Illegal Image]

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyways, you get the idea.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I loooove Randy Newman in the 70's. But his "in it for the money" movie schlock makes me want to kill. He's kind of a Stevie Wonder-esque example of talent wasted on kitsch.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked his sad song from Toy Story 2. And I like his voice enough that I don't really care what he's singing.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I called Randy Newman and James Taylor together onstage as a "Summit of Suck."

Now see that's just a stone cold truth.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Categories I got wrong in the office pool:

Picture (I went with Babel. I had a hunch that the same voter pool that went for Crash would've liked Babel, as it had a patina of self-importance about it. Also, the Best Pic and Director used to match up all the time, but that's only been the case half the time in the last 8 years -- cf. Spielberg winning in '98 for Saving Private Ryan, Soderbergh in '00 for Traffic, Polanski in '02 for The Pianist, and Ang Lee in '05 for Brokeback Mountain, none of which won Best Pic.)

Supporting Actor (I went for Murphy)

Animated (I went with Cars. Only surprised at Happy Feet because it went against what most pundits were predicting, but I was never really sure why Cars was seen as the favorite.)

Foreign (Like everyone else, I went with Pan's Labyrinth)

Cinematography (I went with Children of Men)

Score (Alexandre Desplat seems to be getting a lot of attention as an up-and-coming composer, and the score for The Queen in particular had good buzz, so that's who I chose)

Song (I went with the prognosticators in choosing "Listen," even though after I actually heard all of the nominated songs performed last night, it seemed clear that Etheridge would win)

Other categories I missed:

Art Direction (I chose Dreamgirls)

Costume (I chose Dreamgirls ... this is the one I'm most kicking myself for ... again, I paid attention to Oscar pundits, when it seems obvious in retrospect that Marie Antoinette was the one to beat ... Academy voters still love big 18th C. period-piece dresses)

Editing (I went with Babel and think it prob. would have won this category if it had also won Pic, although I'm glad that Schoonmaker got it -- The Departed was an exceptionally well-edited movie)

Animated Short (everyone seemed to think it would The Little Matchgirl)

****

I don't think there were any categories that featured a MAJOR upset. (Best Pic was always up in the air since the nominations were announced.) But their tendency to choose the 2nd favorite instead of the favorite -- Arkin over Murphy, The Lives of Others over Pan's Labyrinth, Santoalalla over Desplat -- made it a little harder this year.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I would have been about as wrong as you, and in exactly the same ways.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still fuzzy on the line between visual effects and art direction. I guess visual effects is a purely technical award, and art direction is more big picture?

As I understand it, visual effects is special effects, like CGI, scale models, explosions, etc., whereas art direction is like the cinematic equivalent of "set design." Pan's Labyrinth was a deserving winner here because it created a unified look from the old house and the woods and the labyrinth: old and dark and mysterious. I think the category has to have some overlap with costumes, too.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, ladies: who's hotter

Alfonso Cuarón
http://www.cojeco.cz/attach/image/max/c8/ba75/c8ba75b1a3c54a458f3e5f231ed514f3.jpg

Alejandro González Iñárritu
http://www.godlis.com/nyfilmfest2003/images_nyff2003/21%20grams/inarritu4_200w.jpg

or Guillermo Del Toro
http://elmundo.canal-si.com/fotos/28746.jpg

(actually, just the first two. heh.)

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

It's fucked up that that boring-ass Etheridge song won, esp. when Dreamgirls had 3 nominations.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anyone see the red carpet bit where some woman was interviewing the Three Amigos, and she said "Now there's a lot of debate about which one of you is the most attractive," and both Cuaron and Del Toro pointed to Innaritu, and then she said "...but I have to say I'm going with you, Guillermo" and then everyone chuckled -- but it was kind of mean, because the subtext was "you're totally not the most attractive"!

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Poor Comic Book Guy.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It's fucked up that that boring-ass Etheridge song won, esp. when Dreamgirls had 3 nominations.

I didn't see Dreamgirls, but based on the performances last night, it totally makes sense that Etheridge won. Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson totally did the flashy showstopping diva routine, but the songs themselves just weren't that interesting. Etheridge's song was oatmeal, but it felt like something the Academy could connect to, with its half-baked liberal pieties.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"Clean the Sweet Tarts out of your beard and we got a deal!"
"Don't try to change me, baby."

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Cuaron and Inarritu are attractive in the same way, but I'm going with the latter if only in the photos compared here.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://myspace-750.vo.llnwd.net/00647/05/75/647735750_l.jpg

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I probably would've gotten most of those categories wrong too.

Dreamgirls got greedy with three nominations.

I think Chicagoist also said Babel wouldn't win Best Pic BECAUSE it was too similar to Crash.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Cuaron has a hot Wayne Coyne/Jaymc thing going for him.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Innaritu is hot in a kind of obvious, smoldering way, but for my money Cuaron looks more... I dunno... pleasant? Plus he makes better movies.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think I'm only really objecting to Cuaron's beard & long-ish hair: distinguished, of course, but less rakish.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm kind of snobby about the Oscar prognostication. I don't really trust anyone besides online writers like Sasha Stone, Kris Tapley, Nathaniel Rogers, or, back in the '90s, Alex Fung. Even daily newspaper critics aren't really monitoring the buzz as closely as some of these folks are.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought that first guy was George Harrison at first.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

But John, you got like 4 or 5 categories wrong because you overrelied on what other people were predicting!

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

LISTEN TO YOUR HEART WHISPERS

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I was afeared the Babel would win, and next to that I guess I was hoping for The Departed, if only because it's solid, workmanlike, entertaining, and pretty much unobjectionable. (Also hella bloody.)

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Cuaron has a hot Wayne Coyne/Jaymc thing going for him.

HE SURE DOES!

Plus that second guy is too tan. And I wouldn't kick Guillermo Del Toro out of bed for eating crackers ifyaknowwhatimean.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

And you KNOW he would be eating crackers, so that's a good thing for him.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Would you kick him out of bed for eating fried chicken? Because that also seems like a real possibility.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHA I just caught the /Jaymc in the Wayne Coyne comparison. My concurrance still stands!

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, maybe not. I read Oscar buzz all the time, so it's hard to say what I would've picked if I didn't know anything about what was favored. I probably would've chosen Marie Antoinette and Happy Feet, sure, but then again I don't think I would've known to pick Letters from Iwo Jima for Sound Editing or West Bank Story for Live Action Short if I didn't check out the consensus. My only point is that I'd rather pay attention to Oscarwatch.com and TheFilmExperience.net than Roger Ebert or Chicagoist.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm torn on the fried chicken thing. On one hand, that's a pretty gross thing to eat in bed. On the other hand, would he share the fried chicken with me?

Using the sheets as a napkin is a deal break no matter what, though.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

C/D: People who send an email to an entire listserv but caption it "For Specific Person Only" and then proceed to have a conversation that would really have been better contained within a private email exchange.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

classic, obv.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone find those CSO ads online that are all over CTA, I can't seem to find them. I think they're hilarious.

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Get this, so Digd0wn was supposed to play a gig on the Saturday in Portage, WI. We couldn't do it because Ev4n got married that day, so we put together a fake MDBB to do the gig. Then it got cancelled anyway because of the snow, and apparently it was listed on tv along with the school cancellations. Like, on the bottom scrollbar. That's crazy.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone find those CSO ads online that are all over CTA, I can't seem to find them. I think they're hilarious.

You mean the "protect yourself from identity theft" ones?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Dress I would have picked to walk down the red carpet:
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/specials/oscars07/show/bwdressed/gywneth_paltrow200.jpg

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Her hair is awful though. Why is it all swept to one side? I did that when I was 7.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

consensus on that dress: she looked like a mermaid and her hair was too flat. me: what's wrong with mermaids? i wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating kelp.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

You mean the "protect yourself from identity theft" ones?

No, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra ads where someone's head is replaced with some type of instrument. I think the line is "The experience stays with you" or something to that effect.

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

OMGOMGOMOMG those are so SCARY! I hate those!

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm out to take my kitten to the vet, but just let me say that Jennifer Hudson is bangin.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post

I want all of them to post in my room.

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I love GP's dress. It's kind of Art Decco looking, all vintage and interesting. I'm okay with her hair, too, but that's probably because I like the dress so much. She looks better than Scarlett J. did. Dang.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that dress, and Sarah, you're one of the only people I know who could wear it! I don't think the hair/lipstick/jewelry were combined to best effect, though.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the CSO ads -- I mean they're just so weird. Not every day I see something that shakes up my commute with a dash of the surreal and unsettling.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, BTW we watched The Prestige this weekend and it was one of the better movies I've seen in a while. Not going to change anyone's life but really good as a piece of entertainment.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I would take a picture of them if I had a camera. Then everyone can share in the sheer awesomeness of them.

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Who are you, Ivan?

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Because this is a new board and people have different names and stuff.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

it was cameron diaz i thought looked like a mermaid, dress-wise--when she walked, her dress looked like a tail the way it flared out, and it looked odd.

gwyneth paltrow looked good (i thought her hair looked fine!) but i wasn't sure about that dress. it's interesting more than flattering.

― JuliaA, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, here they are!

The last three pictures

I'm just some dude who is wasting time before my next class.

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, weird, I've never seen those before. It reminds me of this

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you post before? Do you live in Chicago? Will you be our friend?

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.petsinuniform.com/images/christmas_tree.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I really wish there were one with just a sousaphone bell coming straight up out of someone's neck. But a sousaphone is not so much a symphony orchestra instrument.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose the french horn one is kind of like that, but I mean just the bell.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you post before? Do you live in Chicago? Will you be our friend?

I've been posting for a few months, but at a rather low frequency. The last Chicago (I do live here) thread I posted in, I was bitching about being 19 and not being able to go to 21+ shows.

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, 19.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

OH okay. Hello!

Is your real name Ivan? I've always liked that name a lot.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

It is.

― Ivan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I am listening to a song called "Nineteen" right now. It's by this band Harlem Shakes that my friend N8 told me about, and their debut EP is pretty damn good. Sort of complex pop, I'm sure there's a lot of references to make but I don't feel like it.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Although they were on tour with Deerhoof, so there you go.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

At first I read N8 as "innate."

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I am a dumb-dumb and left my headphones at home. I have another pair here, but they have a tag that says "THE WIRE ON THESE HEADPHONES IS TOXIC, WASH YOUR HANDS AFTER USING" that frankly makes me not want to touch them at all. Shame, I was going to see if there were any Patrick Wolf mp3s floating around, since he seems like someone I'd like (although I seem to remember hearing an album from a couple years ago that didn't strike me at all).

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, I'm trying to plan my week a little bit. Do any of you feel like doing the trivia thing again? Just curious.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

That's an odd note to find on a pair of headphones.

I read N8 as "innate," too. So much so that it didn't even occur to me that I might be wrong until Nick's post.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

INNATE DAWG

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"THE WIRE ON THESE HEADPHONES IS TOXIC, WASH YOUR HANDS AFTER USING"

doesn't this seem a little... odd?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, I'm trying to plan my week a little bit. Do any of you feel like doing the trivia thing again? Just curious.

Maaaybe. Although I was talking to Jeremy, the alpha-male of What's That On Your Forehead? (the winning team last week), and he said that he does trivia at the Schoolyard Tavern at Southport and School every Tuesday. He says the trivia there is harder and/or more complex (sample question: Of these 10 monarchs, name a year within their reign.) -- but I'm curious enough that I'd like to try it out sometime.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan are you referring to Galway Arms trivia? R U hooked on trivia?

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

who makes poisonous headphones? and wherefore would they do such a dastardly thing?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, here's what it actually says (I picked it up with a napkin so I could read it):

"California Proposition 65"
The coated electrical wire of this product contains a substance known to the state of California to be a carcinogen or reproductive toxicant.

Wash Hands After Handling

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

OH those silly Californians! Just don't chew on it. You'll be fine.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

If you DO chew on it, wash mouth after chewing.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

phtalates

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Galway Arms, I R not quite hooked, but if other people are up for it I'll gladly go.

I'd be interested in checking out the other game, too, but I can't this week (Red Wings v. Blackhawks tomorrow, if anyone's interested).

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

oops, I meant phthalates

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel light-headed.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

hypochondriacs shout NOT have poisonous headphones.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to do trivia somewhere near my house.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I completely forgot until now: how long has there been a second Sultan's Market? It's across the street from Galway Arms and north about 2 blocks. I noticed it on my way home last week. Anyone been there?

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

phthalates

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh, Schoolyard is apparently a "Marquette bar" -- was Julia aware of this?

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Phthalates are also frequently used in nail polish, fishing lures, adhesives, caulk, paint pigments, and sex toys made of so-called "jelly rubber." Some vendors of jelly rubber sex toys advise covering them in condoms when used internally, due to the possible health risks. The Dutch office of Greenpeace UK sought to encourage the European Union to ban sex toys that contained phthalates.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Phthalates are controversial because high doses of many phthalates have shown hormonal activity in rodent studies. Studies on rodents involving large amounts of phthalates have shown damage to the liver, the kidneys, the lungs and the developing testes.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

the developing testes

Look out, John!

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

j/k

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

There is also trivia at Ginger's Ale House on Thursdays.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Also the Globe Pub (a couple doors down from Silvie's) on Tuesday.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I should wear headphones more here, but I do kind of enjoy that clockwork response when I listen to Xiu Xiu. "What on Earth are you listening to?" It never fails.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been to the Globe once. It was for a futbol match and it was infuckingsane.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Phthalates are also frequently used in nail polish, fishing lures, adhesives, caulk, paint pigments, and sex toys made of so-called "jelly rubber."

Oh, what fools these mortals be.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm getting bored with lunch options around here. I really want a samosa right now.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i really want a Samoan right now.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The Girl Scout cookie, or, like, Junior Seau?

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

or... ooh, a Samoa.

http://www.gscnc.org/images/cookies/samoas.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

x post ruins joke

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I am eating so many girl scout cookies today, but mostly THIN MINTS OMG.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I HAVE NO GIRL SCOUT COOKIES. THIS IS A PROBLEM.

I have home-made mac, though, and it's pretty darn good.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

ts: thin mints vs. samoas

You know what side I'm on.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

PEANUT BUTTER PATTIES

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

It's all good.

I had a great lunch. Yay for TJ's: salad with avocado, blackberries, and lowfat ranch with a side of butternut apple soup (and tons of cookies).

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't be silly, you can't "take" "sides" when there's only one right answer.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is it so hard to find a maintenance person to come out to our office to clean the boss's computer? Everyone says they either don't make house calls, only service their own machines, or just simply do not service 0KI printers... I went to the 0kidata site for a list of repair places, but everywhere I called only looks at the computers, not printers. Bastards.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

to clean the boss's computer?
I meant printer. My brain is sugared up.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't be silly, you can't "take" "sides" when there's only one right answer.

THOS IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU PPL

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

And the answer is Thin Mints. Next question!

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Peanut Butter Patties? I like those ones, too!!!!

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of chewing headphone cords and developing sexuality, looks like no new iPod for awhile 'cause spaying kittens is $$$.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Thin mints are most popular, and you get more in a box, but I would just feel like part of the herd if I picked them.

Although I am kinda dreaming now of eating some thin mints along with a bowl of mint chocolate chip ice cream. Mint overload!

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

(peanut butter patties OTM)

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever had Peanut Butter Patties. Where do you people get Girl Scout cookies? Are there Girl Scout moms in your office or something?

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

My officemates are all about the new lemonades. BO-RING. Gimme some chocolate or peanut butter or both.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, there are Girl Scout aunts mostly. Also, people in my office buy cookies from their friends kids and then bring them to the office to share (most notably the owner who gave us like 15 boxes to share).

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Thin Mints but Samoas are better.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

There are ... NEW lemonades?

Actually, I'm sort of addicted to Bolthouse Farms Mango Lemonade.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't had a Girl Scout cookie in a long time, but I still know what I like, and that is Peanut Butter Patties. Frozen. Goddamn.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm trying to decide if I should go to Momphis to surprise her for her bday. (Yes, I typed it that way on purpose.) Well, yes, I definitely want to go. It just sucks, besides the money part, that I realized I'll only have a half day left after this trip and the honeymoon for Christmas/Thanksgiving/other out of town shows. NOOOO!

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Thinking about going to Seattle in April for the EMP thing...

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

[i[http://photo.sing365.com/music/picture.nsf/EMF-photo/48256C71003578A2482569670003E713/$file/emf.jpg[/i]

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

sigh

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I see what you were trying to do there.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

unbelievable...

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

CRUMBELIEVABLE

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember CD singles? I had that song.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I had the cassingle of that song.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah swears that the sample in the chorus of that song says "What the fuck waaaaaas that?"

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Check it:
UNBELIEVABLE
EMF

You burden me with your questions
You'd have me tell no lies
You're always asking what it's all about
Now listen to my replies
You say to me I don't talk enough
But when I do I'm a fool
These times I've spent, I've realized
I'm going to shoot through
And leave you

The things, you say
Your purple prose just gives you away
The things, you say
You're unbelievable
You burden me with your problems
By telling me more than mine
I'm always so concerned
Download MP3's
With the way you say,
You've always go to stop
To think of us being one
Is more than I ever know
But this time, I realize
I'm going to shoot through
And leave you

Seemingly lastless, don't mean
you can ask us
Pushing down the relative
Bringing out your higher self
Think of the fine times, pushing
down the better few, instead of
bringing out the clues, to what the
world and everything anger to, brace
yourself with the grace of ease,
I know this world ain't what it seems.
What the fuck was that,
its unbelievable

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

That 'seemingly lasteless...' part rules because it's all angsty and rap-like. GRR!
I LOVED that song.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

This panel looks cool:

Erica Easley, “ReDressing History: Rock T-shirts and The (re)Creation of Rock Mythology”
Katherine Meizel, “Making the Song Your Own: Nostalgia, Authenticity, and the Cover in American Idol”
Daphne Carr, “Selling Sad: How Hot Topic Made the Mall (Safe for the) Miserable”
Michaelangelo Matos, “A Matter of Trustafarians: Behind the Bob Marley Poster on the Dorm Room Wall”

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

From my 1991 mixtape:

For better or for worse, this was the pinnacle of the Madchester sound in the U.S., reaching #1 on a blend of dance beats and shouts, busy cowbell, and the "hard rock" preset on my Casio. Me, I liked imitating James Atkins' accent while replacing the mush-mouthed "your purple prose gives you away" with "your Hans and Franz impression blows me away." Did I mention I was twelve?

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, the <quote> tag automatically converts to italics. I thought all of you were adding italics to something that was already set off, which just seemed dumb to me.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I too used to hear/sing "Hans and Franz [just gives you away]" for that song. John, Jenny, and I sang this while waiting for the Damen bus early on in our life together, Jeff was there too, but not singing, obv.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. That was the SAME NIGHT as "homeboy," Kenan hitting his head on the curb, me stumbling around with my pants around my ankles, the photo of me looking surly, etc.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've already told Jenny, but look!!!

Edward Albee's Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Theatre : LaSalle Bank Theatre
Dates : March 27, 2007 - April 07, 2007

Direct from electrifying and critically acclaimed runs on Broadway and in London's West End, the new production of Edward Albee's masterpiece WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF?, starring original cast members KATHLEEN TURNER and BILL IRWIN, will play Chicago’s LaSalle Bank Theatre for a limited engagement. Edward Albee’s WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? is the story of George and Martha, two of the most famous roles ever written for the stage. Over the course of one wickedly hilarious evening, the cocktails come out and the gloves come off as this riveting duo takes their two young guests on the ride of their lives.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... link? ticket info?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

[url]http://www.broadwayinchicago.com/shows_dyn.php?cmd=display_current&display_showtag=virginiawoolf07[/url]

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF:SLKNDGV:OINE

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh well. Here's a link for a preview http://stream.broadwaychannel.com/chicago/index.php?title=Whose_Afraid_of_Virginia_Woolf#

Kathleen Turner is looking healthy these days.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

not turning down seconds, that's for sure.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Computer crashed/died and we lost tons of irreplacable photos and documents and music that is replaceable but would require a lot of time/energy to replace. Has since been revived but it's basically naked.

Gas leak in the building (where we live) causes explosion scare that includes visions of 3rd degree burns, homelessness and destitution. Nothing exploded, but it could have since I was last there.

3 pm and still no lunch

;_;

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. It can only get better from here on out. As long as that explosion never came to pass....

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't blow up, manda. Plz.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Photos are replaceable, just buy another plane ticket.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you for your kind words of support. I will try not to explode.

I am not particularly bothered by this new format, except I liked the feature that would show me unread messages rather than that "500 messages are being hidden clickt to show" button.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

the "Food of the 80's" thread makes me never want to eat again.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Amen to that. Plus I have a problem with the lack of x-post warning. And no automatic hyperlinking.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus I have a problem with the lack of x-post warning.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe they need a double post warning.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Today as I was thoroughly relishing my McGriddle I was thinking that one food of the '00s is the sweet-and-savory kind.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I just found a gnat floating in the glass of water I'm drinking. Will it end? Please let this 7-Day Spell of Hell end peacefully.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

test

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

test

is met with

ILX 2
You have tried to insert a duplicate message.

Return to Front Page.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Comparing things I was actually eating in the 80's, many of which are listed on that thread, to what I eat now, i.e. tons of deep-dish pizza and thai and middle eastern food, I'd rather have now. Surely that's largely because I live in a better place to eat and have had more exposure to different foods. But I can't help thinking that some of it is because Americans have more options in general. Food is getting better!

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

You also have to take into consideration our age in the 80s. The fact that we were eating tons of ranch dip and Ruffles and fruit roll ups probably had to do with the fact that we were little kids. Now we are adults and eat adult food.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I never liked dip though.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I dip you dip we dip.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

well, at least it's easy to conjugate

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend lent me the Undeclared boxset the other day. I wasn't planning on renting it but I might as well watch it now, right?

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not wasted time, no, it's just not as good as F&G.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, Amanda, my parents didn't eat "adult" food in the 80s either, unless you mean the same pretty bland Midwestern stuff! It was home-made and healthy but it was still mostly boring and "American". I think it's a done deal that foods & ingredients that used to be exoticare finding much wider acceptance & availbility. Whether this is a GOOD idea or not remains to be worked out, there are plenty of food-miles kinks & etc, but I think it's The Future.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Low expectations, check.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

L - Yeah, I agree that there is obvs a greater availability of ingredients (hummus in the superstore, for instance). But for the most part, the people I know who ate bland midwestern food in the 80s are still eating it. I don't know what food-miles kinks are, though.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Miles accumulated for kinky food preferences that can be redeemed for more food?

Sign me up!

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

food-miles = how far food has to travel to get to your table

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, Amanda, my parents didn't eat "adult" food in the 80s either, unless you mean the same pretty bland Midwestern stuff!

Yeah, mine still don't, really. Lots of hamburger casserole-y stuff, "goulash" that only resembles goulash because it has a can of beans in it, spaghetti sauce that's more meat than sauce, a delectable/horrifying dish called "Chicken Dorito," etc. etc. My mom at least eats good Tex-Mex food now when she goes out, but by and large, they're both still cooking and eating the same stuff they fed us when we were kids.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. Ok.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I think food is getting better. I was reading somewhere (maybe in the 80's food thread?) about how cookbooks used to call for "1 clove of garlic" in a huge pot of spaghetti sauce, as one example of how food these days is more international and more interesting. Even so, my family in MI still is kind of meat and potatoes (boiled together is fine).

I grew up in the Midwest too for the most part, but my 7th Day Adventist upbringing was an odd source of variety in my diet. As a youngster I ate tabouli and baba ganoujhshch at church events because a lot of the people there were vegetarian. But their idea of "Mexican" was "taco salad," which was icebergy, olives, kidney beans, Doritos and FRENCH DRESSING.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

So basically that confirms my suspicion that we are talking about our own changing food preferences, not those of the gen-pub. Which means that even though there is hummus in the supermarket, a lot of people keep buying the Shake and Bake.

Maybe people are slowly waking up,but who knows. I am not demographer.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Taco salad can die (see also every office party ever).

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

But if there is hummus (and bulgar wheat, mesulin mix, and various organic stuff) in grocery stores, that means that the demand amongst the general public has increased otherwise you would only find this stuff in the hippy health food stores where the 7DAs shopped. Also, note the degree to which chain restaurants like Applebees and Ruby Tues. have "ethnicized" and "exoticized" (big scare quotes here) their offerings.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is starting to make me think about the suburban housewifey 7-layer dip I made for the movie the other night. Mmmmmmmmmmmm

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

No one can fade that shit. I barely even had to wash the pan because it was scraped so clean.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe people are slowly waking up,but who knows. I am not demographer.

Nor am I, but there's a big urban/rural divide here, too, right?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Uppity city dwellers would probably like to think so.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

It's probably not as big as we, the uppity, would imagine -- I'm sure there's a Whole Foods by now in Omaha.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

heh. Yep.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Nor am I, but there's a big urban/rural divide here, too, right?

Good point. West Branch, MI's grocery stores certainly don't carry hummus. And remember Sarah's story about trying to buy hummus somewhere in rural Virginia? On the other hand, 20 years ago you wouldn't have found hummus in a Jewel in Chicago, would you? And you *can* easily find it in smaller cities like Salisbury, NC these days, so I would stick with "food is getting better/more varied" but add that it's happening regionally, and spreading slowly from city to rural.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

When my parents moved to Whitehall from NJ you couldn't get BAGELS within like 100 miles! I grew up on Lender's alone! And it was a long time before more than just the ONE "good" supermarket carried Boursin or Boar's Head deli meats or Bremner Wafres or any Parmesan besides the Kraft kind or any number of things. There is DEFINITELY an increase in availability, because I can remember how excited my mom used to be when she found that stuff in West MI...or would buy it once or twice a year on trips to Chicago or elsewhere.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I do somehow has this fear that eating too much non-native food is terribly bad for you, and my last words will be, "I should have stuck with the goulash!"

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with you, Jessepants.

I like the name Jessepants.

I keep thinking something horrible might happen any second to my body since I ate SOOOO many cookies (wasn't counting and had multiple kinds), but I feel fine... just kind of heavy.

Hi, Amanda. This too shall pass.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Omaha has a metro population of like 800,000, not really rural.

You can buy hummus at the neighborhood grocery store in my hometown. You can also buy garam masala, thai chilis, giant bags of basmati rice, juustoa, all kinds of chinese noodles, betel nuts... on and on. It's a function of the place being the only store within walking distance for lots of international graduate students.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know that I'd describe what I ate as a kid as "bland Midwestern." The food we ate was pretty basic, but it was healthy. Typical meals included fresh pasta salads tossed in olive oil; tacos with seasoned ground beef, refried beans, shredded lettuce, cheese, onions, and diced tomatoes; stir fried pork with broccoli, snap peas, and water chestnuts and served with rice; oven-roasted chicken with baked potato and green beans; homemade pizza with the usual toppings. We never had white bread and kept Kraft singles in the deli tray next to bricks of cheddar. My dad even sometimes got a little adventurous -- he had this Moroccan stew that he used to make when he had co-workers over. The two cookbooks in my parents' kitchen: the original Moosewood and the original Frugal Gourmet.

Based on how the culinary landscape has changed, I have a feeling that if I were growing up right now, my dad would be serving us Indian or Thai food for dinner on occasion. And mostly just because it's so easy now to find curry sauces in the supermarket next to the Kikkoman bottles, both at Jewel and at new stores like Trader Joe's, which my parents shop at all the time now.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Does it strike anyone else as a bit unsettling that you can buy caskets at costco online?
here is the page

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think my parents subsist on a diet of almost 100% chana masala and variations of thai/chinese stir fries these days. Had a lot of this stuff as a kid, too.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: a big class divide. At least back then. Jaymc's parent's went to college; mine did not. Hence hamburger meat with everything. "Healthy" wasn't even a consideration. Only "filling." Pasta salad was only to impress the other moms at the potluck picnic.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting. I know that some people have found it strange that my dad made stir-fries in the 80s. It never seemed that weird to me, because it was a pretty simple and not particularly exotic dish, since Chinese cuisine had been familiar in this country for a while.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Moosewood recipe apple/cottage cheese stuffed squash = bane of my existance as a ~10 year old.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

My upbringing was mostly on meat potatoes. It seems like every single Sunday we'd have roast beef, cooked with the vegetables and potatoes. Mom would start it before we left for church. All during the service, I'd dream of roast beef. She did mix it up every once in a while by making Chow Mein, which I thought was meh.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(That was an xpost to Dan.)

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

TOP TEN COMMERCIAL CASKET MODELS

10. The Dirt-Master
9. Tupper-Tomb
8. Krazy-Kasket from Whammo
7. The Slim Reaper
6. The 19th Hole
5. McCoffin Styrofoam Casket
4. The Comfort-King Velvetliner (endorsed by Paul Anka)
3. Cap'n Crypt
2. The Cardboard Warrior
1. The La-Z-Boy Eterna-Lounger

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

John, that's more or less like my childhood diet, minus the salads in olive oil, and plus a lot of French dressing and casseroles involving cream of whatsit soup. But the point is that "normal" is shifting to include a lot of cuisines that it wouldn't have before! Or they'd have been the Better Homes & Gardens Americanized versions of say, Chinese food (like the one we always called "chicken flied lice" -- I know, so shoot me) and now they are stir fries with ACTUAL Asian vegetables. It just is what it is.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I...don't remember what I ate as a kid. At least when my parents were still living together. I remember some fish, and pancakes on weekends, and pb&j (with wheat bread and nasty organic pb&j) for lunch every day. When I was a latchkey kid I remember lots of frozen pizza, frozen waffles, bagels, and cereal. I had to consciously broaden my tastes as an adult, for real.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Another thing, is it because I work in restaurants, or are people more comfortable eating food that is not cooked to death? I would have been shocked as a child to see rare steak or raw fish on anyone's plate, but these I am mildly disgusted when people order even their pork med-well or, god forbid, well done.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Not a lot of vegetables or ethnic-y foods (except for Jewish stuff around the holidays of course).

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Did any of you associate meals with particular days of the week?

Oven-roasted chicken with baked potatoes and green beans was totally a Sunday night dinner, right before 60 Minutes.

Grilled hamburgers and pizza both were on Saturday, and we'd eat them outside on the deck.

Tacos = Monday night, right after coming home from CCD. My brother once called the All Things Considered theme song "taco music" because he associated it with my dad making tacos in the kitchen with the radio on.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

On probably the first shopping trip I took after getting a "real" job here at UofC (the first time in my working life I'd had pretty much free reign wrt what I could spend on food, no tight student budgets or anything) I got really high and wandered through Cub for like an hour buying all the things I could 1. never afford before and 2. my parents wouldn't let me eat as a kid. Oh, Gushers "fruit snacks", we were made to be together...

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

On preview (review) I would have to bet that the rare vs. well-done divide coincides with class as well.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree that there is a greater variety of choices now -- but I'm not sure of the numbers of people who give a shit that the variety is there.

Either way, I eat way better than I did in the 80s, when my choices were Arby's, Taco Bell or Pizza Hut on the way to the sitter's.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

My dad used to always make pizza on Friday nights. I didn't even know pizza was deliverable until we moved into town when I was like 7 or 8 years old, and the concept was completely amazing to me.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

like the one we always called "chicken flied lice" -- I know, so shoot me

My grandma called it that when we took her out to a Chinese restaurant during one of the last conversations I ever remember having with her. (She contracted pancreatic cancer shortly thereafter and died several months later.)

Another thing, is it because I work in restaurants, or are people more comfortable eating food that is not cooked to death?

Haha, my parents had these friends named Mark and Nina -- whose sons played soccer with my brother -- and Nina was like Brazilian or Russian or something, and I remember going over to their house for a dinner party once and they served steak tartare. This was in 1992 or so. (Right, because Mark was wondering why Tonya Harding's first name wasn't pronounced with a long O.)

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I have recently developed deep feelings of love for tartartes and carpaccios. Except smoked salmon carpaccio which is too strong.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Beef, love and undercooking.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Even though my childhood food was bland it was relatively health-conscious, I think. Memories of melba toast and trips to Brownberry Ovens (breadmakers + health food store) are coming back to me.

I rarely got fast food, so I have fond memories of the occasional McDonald's fish sandwich (I wasn't allowed burgers as a kid, I don't think) or Pizza Hut cheese personal pan pizza (thanks to Book It!!). Pepperoni pizza wz the holy grail, only obtainable at friend's houses or the roller rink.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I like tartares and ceviches and stuff, but I keep thinking of that tapeworm link that was posted a few months ago.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno about the numbers, Amanda, but clearly there's SOME demand which is more than there was 20 years ago! Even if it's just the usual slow aspirational build, where non-Kraft romano cheese gets into one store, and then the other, and then is perceived as normal and people want a nice baked brie to really "class" things up, etc etc. Because stores continue to carry masala spices, hummus, there are bagel shops in lots of towns now (even though they're not all GOOD), there's Droste's cocoa powder at the regular grocery and not only at the specialty import store in Grand Rapids...things like that. I wonder what the tipping point was, if there was one; I should ask my mom about it.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I want raw oysters. My biggest treat when I was a kid was seafood. Especially fresh seafood that we pulled out of the Gulf ourselves. Fried shrimp never fails. Crawfish. Stuff like that. This was all my dad's doing, and my gramma on that side of the family.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

there are bagel shops in lots of towns now (even though they're not all GOOD)

so sadly true. Even in Chicago. Or LA. Neither of which have any shortage of Jews.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks to Book It!!

OMG awesome!

Laurel, I went back and reread your original post in which you said that the stuff your family made was homemade and healthy and not necessarily Cheez-Whiz and fluffernutters and Jello molds with maraschino cherries -- and so yeah, we did have similar diets growing up. I guess I'm just averse to calling this "bland, Midwestern" since I think it's a lot better than what a lot of people eat even today and since using "Midwestern" as a derogative kinda bugs me.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess ultimately I know you're all right but it makes me feel like a jackass to think that I'm sitting here on the internet making proclamations about how different things are when I was a child at the time and my body was probably made of mac and cheese, tacos and roast beef sandwiches.

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

No one can fade that shit. I barely even had to wash the pan because it was scraped so clean.

I'm glad to have done my part in saving you labor. :) I ate the shit out of that.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

During winter break of my sophomore year of college, I went down to St. Louis to visit my friend Chris, who was a freshman at Webster University, and he and his dormmates had a little potluck. Someone made hummus, and this girl from somewhere like Carbondale was all "OMG this is so weird, what is it?" and I derisively snorted and was like, "Uh, hello, it's hummus" -- even though I had probably only had it for the first time a year or two prior. This was 1997. I don't know if Middle Eastern food became more widely available in the late 90s than in the earlier part of the decade, or if I had just found it in Kalamazoo more easily than in Bolingbrook. (And obv. this girl was from a much more rural part of the state.)

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, I can't believe Book It is still going on.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, the Book It! site has a 1980s nostalgia-kitsch section.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Austin totally spoiled me for eating more diverse foods. Even if it was simple. I had no idea what a black bean was before I moved to Austin -- suddenly, I was eating them 4 times a week. And schwarma, and thai food... all really close to campus, all at rock-bottom student prices. Oh, and really good coffee.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ "alumni pizza deals"

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i.e., let's see if we can capitalize on generational nostalgia in order to lure people to Pizza Hut that otherwise forsook us long ago

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's working. :(

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

My mom wouldn't let me take part in Book-it because of the product tie-ins to Pizza Hut. Naturally I thought she was insane at the time, but now it makes me love her even more.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Jay, it IS bland!! The tastes are simple, there usually aren't too many flavors competing in any given dish/meal, we didn't eat garlic or onions or anything spicy or too game-y or strong. My house might have been more extreme than most in blandness but it's not just an unkind stereotype, dude: stir fry would have freaked me out as a kid.

You're also taking the Midwestern label too much to heart as it's usually applied, I think, because if your parents were academics and lived in or near Chicago that's really not the same experience as being blue collar in a town of fewer than 6000 people that's mainly either agricultural or industrial shift-work and not much influenced by any metro area.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

when i was little my mom had a close friend who was indian, and would cook big crazy multicourse dinners for us sometimes....i didn't like all of it (i was a picky eater), but it exposed me to a variety of food at a very young age. i had my own names for some of the snacky things, and i have no idea what they were now. i haven't been able to find out, either through internet searches or grilling an indian friend. some sort of regional stuff, probably.

i was looking for easy veggie casserole recipes online yesterday, and recipes involving ritz crackers, cheez whiz, and cream of mushroom soup are alive and well.

we made ours sans cheez whiz, with whole foods mushroom soup and extra veggies of various sorts, and it is now abundantly clear that whole foods sells incredibly bland soup. it doesn't have to taste like shit to be natural and healthy and such, grrrr. i think it would be possible to make such a thing with homemade mushroom gravy in the place of soup, and then it would be good. next time.

speaking of which, bad 80s food fad: rice cakes.

― JuliaA, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Also LOL at the idea of my mother allowing "Cheez-Whiz and fluffernutters and Jello molds with maraschino cherries" through the front door. What kind of pioneer daughter do you TAKE her for, that woman made all our jelly and jam from scratch and baked her own bread.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i have the opposite problem with those rice crackers you have as with rice cakes: they have *too much* flavor. Kinda burn my mouth, but not in a hot way.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

stir fry would have freaked me out as a kid

Whereas I had it all the time and didn't think of it as unusual, and yet you're saying we had a virtually identical diet. Or am I misunderstanding?

You're also taking the Midwestern label too much to heart as it's usually applied, I think, because if your parents were academics and lived in or near Chicago that's really not the same experience as being blue collar in a town of fewer than 6000 people that's mainly either agricultural or industrial shift-work and not much influenced by any metro area.

Totally agree. I think sometimes when I bristle is when I feel like you're applying the label too monolithically. Maybe not in this instance, but in others.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Julia, the Indian family friend thing is exactly the kind of anecdote I was thinking of! We were friends with a Mexican couple and Patty cooked for us now and then, but I think our tastes were already pretty boring and set so I'm not sure how much we benefitted. We did start eating quesadillas regularly about a decade before they hit restaurants, and I'm sure that was purely Patty's influence.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

they're kind of odd, those rice crackers (from trader joe's). they seem to be a sort of food that's really hit and miss--the TJ's ones aren't quite right, but they're ok.

― JuliaA, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

2x on the Indian neighbors. That's how I found out about tandoori chicken and the aforementioned chana masala.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to love going over to friend's houses in high school, because my friends were such a diverse bunch, so I got homemade Vietnamese, homemade Mexican, homemade southern cookin', homemade Korean (which I could barely stomach, truth be told), etc etc.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

My palate wasn't ready for spicy Indian food as a kid and it put me off for years. Once at an Indian restaurant, once at my friend's dad's bachelor pad (it was a converted Sherwin-Williams warehouse and he had all kinds of paintings and homemade canoes hanging up. He made some super spicy curry, lit some candles, and put on a William Burroughs cd, all throwing down ex-hippie style.).

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(My favorite was the Mexican breakfasts, but I wonder now if that didn't have something to do with the fact that the mom in question was impossibly hot.)

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

pics plz

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I am totally not arguing about Midwesternism on the internets with someone who grew up with access to a major city. :)

I am saying that everything else you mentioned was pretty much like our dinners, particularly the tacos (which, see asterisk below), except out of the items you listed, stir-fry was way too AUTHENTICALLY Asian and not Americanized enough to be in the Better Homes & Gardens cookbook of the day, so it wouldn't have been "normal" in my experience.

*TACOS. MIDWESTERN TACOS ARE FUCKING INSANE. It's like the only possible meaning of "taco" is a rigid yellow corn shell and ground beef with the seasoning packets from Old El Paso. Add chopped tomatoes, shredded cheddar cheese, and iceberg lettuce and maybe hot sauce and you are DONE. I actually don't mind tacos this way, but I don't mistake them for, like, Mexican food? I didn't learn to eat beans, black or refried, until I moved to NYC, ditto sour cream, ditto guacamole or avocado!

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

after we moved away, i went years without indian food. boston didn't have much in the way of indian food in the 80s. then my family moved here and a friend would bring me her mom's samosas, and we discovered indian restaurants, and YAY.

― JuliaA, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

To clarify, not that sour cream and monterey jack cheese are authentically Mexican, either! Sorry, that was unclear. It's just that the Midwestern taco is like the most sanitized version possible in this branch of the space-time continuum.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

pics plz

http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/celebs/58_penelope_cruz.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, we used flour tortillas and refried pinto beans. I think the only time I ever had a hard taco shell was at school.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"Penelope Cruz is not from Mexico, she's from Spain, and I know that, and everybody knows it."

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, you beautiful bastards, i'll see you tomorrow.

I'll be back
When the day is new
And I'll have more overstated opinions for you
You'll have things you want to talk about
I will too

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I did More > preferences > Show Images > Submit Response > Boards > I Love Everything > Chicago for that pic.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

See? So you are feeling implicated in a perceived criticism of the Midwest when actually your experience was considerably more cosmopolitan than mine (not to mention the difference in social/intellectual climate implied by having two academic parents).

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's not fight, midwesterners, let's talk about fish frys.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The difference (in my experience) between U.S. "sour cream" and Mexican "crema" is that the s.c. is generally a thicker consistency.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not a Midwesterner, I'm a Northerner. And I look down UPON YOU ALLLL

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

AUTHENTICITY BEEF TACOS, COMING RIGHT UP

― La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Dan is showing remarkable forbearance in not calling me a troll all the time.

― Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my favorite childhood dishes when we weren't having ewwy stir fry or that nasty spicy stew was TUNA NOODLE CASSEROLE. WITH BREAD CRUMBS ON TOP.

NOW WHO'S FUCKING MIDWESTERN, SON

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Do you have any idea how long it took me to post that? Stupid nu-poxy-fule...

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

And what a stunning impact that post had!

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry. I am able to log in from home now, and I got overexcited.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 02:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh. "Authentic food" is probably one of my least favorite Internet discussion topics.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 11:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Mine is the weather!

― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Followed closely by grammar.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

It sure looks like an authentic Chicago winter morning out there, snowy and cold! Say, I think I will have an authentic Chicago hot dog for lunch, with NO KETCHUP! LOL!

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I am going to vote against Daley today. I don't know who I'm voting FOR, since it won't matter since that person won't win, but I am not going to vote for him. He didn't even bother to campaign. I do not respond well to having my vote or my anything taken for granted.

Yes, I read that Reader article and yes, it worked on me.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I am also going to vote against my alderman for the same reason. He's a fat cat who bleaches his teeth too much.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I read that Reader article and yes, it worked on me.

ME TOO!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/mayordaley/

― Jenny, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The only time I vote is if I have done my own research into each person running. This is not the case this time.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, that did sound right. I meant to say, I haven't done any research, so I will not vote.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, that did sound right.

Keep plugging away at it, Tiger.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Shut up. I hate you.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

HUGGLEZ 2 U!!! LOL!!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

killfiled

― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not voting either.

I am protesting Daley by not eating any girl scout cookies today. I swear I probably ate about 50 yesterday. It's a hunger strike of sorts. I'm goin' hunnngry... goin' hunggryyy... YEAAAAHHHH!!!!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Who am I?

GET TO posting on ilx
what is wrong with you
entertain me

I am here! Talk to me.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a busy man, here to read your entertaining posts. So far you have only a post. Keep going! (I've been getting ready to face my day.)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm eating lentils! And having a headache! I've been drinking five nights in a row and have a work dinner tonight so make that six! I have GOT to do work today.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Off to shower. Shower my smooth, young, supple body, lathering and caressing every dimple and cubby.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Off to work. Work my smooth--nevermind.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Wrong crowd, Jesse.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

hi.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi. Welcome back. Are you a happy camper these days?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

no. but at least i have this message board back.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what would be AWESOME? Getting my review/raise that was supposed to happen a month ago.

Hey, guess what, Kev. I know your last trip there wasn't the best, but I'm going to Memphis the weekend after this one to surprise my mom for her bday. My middle sis is coming too. Temps in the 60s and 70s, AHOY! It will be a really quick turn around (getting there 9am Saturday and coming back 1:30 Monday) but I'm super excited about it.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome! have fun. too bad it's not this weekend, it's goner's birthday:

Daytime @ Goner Store
Free!

2pm COUGARS
3pm JEFF GOLIGHTLY
4pm KID TWIST
5pm BOSTON CHINKS / BARBARAS
6pm JACK O & TEARJERKERS

Nighttime @ Hi Tone
$5

10pm HARLAN T BOBO
11pm JAY REATARD
12pm PREACHERS KIDS

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I know! I saw that on their page.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess it's just as well though, because I need to pack in all that quality mom time, especially it being her birthday and all.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm really in a late to bed/late to work groove. I've got to tighten up, folks.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too! (though my 'late to work' means about 1-5 minutes late, but I'm used to being @ 20 minutes early)

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

How was the vet visit?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I got to work an hour later than I usually do, but I'll have a new boss/office in a week it's not like it matters much.

Vet was good, I made an appointment to have her little ovaries + uterus removed in a week. Also she apparently has a very slight heart murmur, but is otherwise very healthy.

Her = Kitka, not the vet

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

not to throw a wrench in the works here, and not to apoil some good daley-hatin, but look who he's running against. next to this bunch of choads, daley is still sent from heaven. that reader article is so one-sided it's not funny.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

in fact, it's in hysterics, running around and banging pots and pans. you know you're in trouble when an article about politics starts with "YEARS AGO I had a neighbor whose husband used to beat the crap out of her."

Oh good.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"YEARS AGO I had a neighbor whose husband used to beat the crap out of her...

... but she's dead now.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, funny story... years ago...

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ATTN JAYMC

1) I heard Go West on the radio yesterday (not doing the Bobby Caldwell song unfort.)

2) You're right, Monica Keena is off the chain.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice.

They have started keeping track of our rate here at work. I'm supposed to edit 600 words/hour, and I just found that last week it came out to about 200 w/h. Eek. I might not be posting as much in the future.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, the show is amusing enough, and her character is kind of ill-defined, but she's so cute I can hardly look at her.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what they're trying to do with her character in the first episode. That "OMG I'm freaking out" thing she does never really pops up again, except maybe in the episode where she's stressed out and eats too many snacks.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't think she was that attractive and i swear i'm not just being contrary here.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

No, that makes sense. I think you probably like "hot" women.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

no john, i only have a thing for really fugly women. stumps and boils and extra appendages and shit.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

He likes moon-faced Laurie Anderson, dude! HI DERE SPREDSHEET.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

oh shit yes, that pic of a young laurie anderson made me swoon.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

She's not normally my type either, but that Monica Keena, she's got somethin.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Never mind, I'm not getting into it.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Goodness, I just GISed Keena and, depending on her make-up, I think either "what a fresh, pretty young woman!" or "Who let the Russian slut in, and aren't Russian sluts supposed to be taller?"

― Laurel, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I had to do a GIS for Monica Keena, and she's pretty cute. I am not super picky, however.

I'm putting out the call for parties interested in seeing the Wings/Blackhawks game tonight... some people had talked about it in the past and I'm just seeing if you're still interested. I am pretty sure the game is at 7:30, it's $10, and I'm probably going to hit up someplace downtown for some dinner beforehand. Anyone interested is more than welcome, just be ready for hearing me yell/get yelled at a lot.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

damn, i forgot about this! i can't make it.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I GISed Monica, too, and found her not to be quite safe for work. Decision on hotness pending.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

That whole show should really have been about Jason Segal's character (the crazy ex-boyfriend). I'm glad he's on "How I Met Your Mother" now but it doesn't really give him the chance to show off his skills at playing extremely pathetic but somewhat likeable characters.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

nick, did you listen to the commentary of the episode that featured the three dudes from the copy shop? if i remember correctly they filmed that after they knew undeclared was not coming back and they were using it as a pilot of sorts for those three characters. that would've been so f'ing awesome that it probably wouldn't have lasted 8 episodes on network tv.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the verdict is in: Monica Keena = but not for me

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I was so happy when he showed up and his character was the logical progression of his Freaks & Geeks character five years down the road!

I haven't seen How I Met Your Mother, is it worth watching on dvd someday?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I've seen a few episodes of How I Met Your Mother (including one last night). It's an above-average sitcom but not especially brilliant. Neil Patrick Harris is pretty funny in it.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF is How I Met Your Mother??

I forgot to mention this, Jordan, but the episodes on the Undeclared DVD are out of order, because they accidentally put them on in the order they were shot. Check Wikipedia to see the correct order you should watch them in.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

John: Use context clues

It's an above-average sitcom
Neil Patrick Harris is pretty funny in it
I'm glad (Jason Segal is) on "How I Met Your Mother"

IT'S A SITCOM WITH JASON SEGAL AND NEIL PATRICK HARRIS

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

That girl who stuck a flute up her pussy is on it too.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Nick. The title is vaguely familiar. I think I may have been conflating it with Yes, Dear.

Alyson Hannigan is cute, too.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

It is significantly better than Yes, Dear.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought the deal was that the Undeclared DVD was in the order the shows were broadcast, which was not the order that Apatow had originally intended.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

is Monica Keena not a "hot" woman? I think she's pretty hot.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

She'd be hotter if I saw her IRL instead of in a jpeg, probably.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought the deal was that the Undeclared DVD was in the order the shows were broadcast, which was not the order that Apatow had originally intended.

Not sure, but either way, it's best to watch them in the order Apatow intended.

is Monica Keena not a "hot" woman? I think she's pretty hot.

She's hot in the sense that she sometimes shows up in FHM and Maxim and the like, but I guess I was contrasting "hot" and "cute," in the way that I do when I talk about how I'm attracted to "cute" women. She's totally the kind of person who would be cast as the "cute" best friend of the female lead, except what's weird about Undeclared is that Carla Gallo isn't all that attractive.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, I don't use "hot" to mean anything but "good-looking," really. Carla Gallo's there to be hilarious on Undeclared, I think.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I find Gallo more attractive than Keena. If we're rating these things.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

BUT OF COURSE NEITHER ARE AS ATTRACTIVE AS MY BEAUTIFUL ANGEL SARAH!!! XXX OOO XXX OOO

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yer nuts.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm starting to wish we were talking about the weather.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymc's xpost is a perfect example of how no xpost warnings are trouble

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I find Gallo more attractive than Keena.

otm

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

carla gallo seems more cute than hot. monica keena, the opposite.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, let's not have the creepy conversation about which girls that are way younger than us are attractive.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

that is probably best.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Monica Keena was born 13 days after you, Nick.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

And Carla Gallo is 31.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

when was undeclared on, anyway?

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

2001-02, I think?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Carla Gallo is 31.

!!!

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

be she cute or hot i do not know but i stand by nick's assertion:

I find Gallo more attractive than Keena.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

you're right, just checked imdb.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

So I guess you have a point if you're saying that we're talking about women who were younger then than we are now.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

kevin is also right. keena wears too much eyeliner in a self-consciously-hot kinda way.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone got cheap/semi-cheap dinner ideas in the Loop? Preferably on or near Madison? Jesse? Anyone? I'm not picky.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Monica Keena had the second-best death on Dawson's Creek: she got drunk and fell into the creek and drowned.

Best death: Dawson's dad was eating an ice cream cone in the car, the scoop of ice cream fell off, and as he reached down to pick it up in the middle of an intersection, another car hit him.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't remember her wearing eyeliner on Undeclared or Dawson's Creek. She doesn't need to -- her eyes are huge and amazing.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe she's born with it. Maaaybe it's Mabelline.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

or Maybelline. Nobody knows.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sure she did. dead people wear eyeliner on tv, if they're female.

i was just going from the GIS results rather than memories of the show, which i haven't watched in quite a while.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I will say that Carla Gallo was perfect on Undeclared, though, because she's exactly the kind of plain-looking college freshman that way outnumber the actual hot girls in college. Like you just look at her and think "oh, she's totally a psych major."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Jay is the same age as my youngest sister.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Did 'Knocked Up' ever come out?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Laura_Palmer_wrapped_in_plastic.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

That reminds me, I sort of wanted to see The Dead Girl.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The one out by the railroad tracks?

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You can be Chris, I'll be Teddy. Nick is Gordie, obv.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't get it. I'm talking about the new Karen Moncrieff movie, with Brittany Murphy.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Come on, somebody has to get that reference. Help me out, people.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Btw, am I an idiot because I didn't realize that there was a new Spider-Man movie this year?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymc is becoming the american tuomas.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i got the reference kenan.

i really hate the lack of xpost notifcation.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

even i get the reference, but i don't remember characters' names. (if i'm right)

that seemed like everyones' favorite movie in junior high.

me too.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it a reference to that River Phoenix movie? Stand by Me or whatever? (I always get it confused with Lean on Me and Stand and Deliver. Although I guess I know that Stand and Deliver is the Edward James Olmos teaching-math-in-East-L.A. movie.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll play the dead kid.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

in either movie.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

If I were at all bad-ass I'd be Kiefer Sutherland's character.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I also get it confused with The River's Edge.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Unless there is a freakishly large character I'm forgetting about.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The River Phoenix's Edge

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus.

Stand by Me (1986) = kids find a dead body
The River's Edge (1989) = kids find a dead body
Stand and Deliver (1988) = inner-city school shapes up via charismatic teacher
Lean on Me (1989) = inner-city school shapes up via charmismatic principal

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoops, River's Edge is also 1986.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

NB I have not seen any of these movies.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Update: pre-game beerz & dinner here if anyone cares, which is probably not the case - http://jakstap.com/

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Based on an actual incident in Northern California, Tim Hunter's controversial indie addresses the growing alienation and moral vacancy among youths growing up in drug-oriented and media-saturated society; Keanu Reeves is perfectly cast.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

there was some junior high yearbook thing asking people's favorite movie, and EVERYONE seemed to say stand by me. i'd probably listed young frankenstein or amadeus or something.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Amadeus was handily my favorite movie when I was a kid.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The River's Edge (1989) = kids find a dead body

Actually, kid kills his girlfriend, leaves her by the river, then invites his friends to come look at the body while no one thinks to call the cops.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been to Jak's Tap.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Those little sneaks at BPAL! I got an email almost two weeks ago that my order was received and shipping, but it never arrived so I got worried. Now it seems it only went into the post YESTERDAY, which was right after I asked them why it was taking so long. So my package was just sitting around somewhere until I nagged about it. I AM EXCITED AND IMP-ATIENT, I WANT GOOD SMELLS!! Plus it's just incompetent.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i made my roommate watch amadeus a while ago, and she was commenting on the costumes--apparently it's common with period films for the costumes to reflect not only the period portrayed, but also the fashion of the time that it was filmed. this happens especially with the main character (it makes the main character more relatable to audiences). and it was true--tom hulce's hair was very 1980's.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i ordered more records this weekend and got confirmation from both places only to get an email sunday night saying one of the 7"s i wanted "is no longer available and will be taken out of our database". i just checked and they're still offering it for sale.

pricks.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds just like the situation I went through with the Apple website and that iPod radio I ordered. UPDATE YOUR SITES PEOPLE, FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST IT"S THE NEW MILLENIUM

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The River's Edge is worth watching solely for Crispin Glover's FUCKING INSANE performance. Totally nuts. Makes Dennis Hopper's performance as a crazy one-legged man seem restrained in comparison.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think I had that movie on VHS somewhere because my brother loved it and had taped it off TV. But it's probably lost to the sands of time by now.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.quizilla.com/R/rockabillykitty/1056343549_crispinlayne.jpg

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

From [a href="http://www.quizilla.com/users/rockabillykitty/quizzes/Which%20Crispin%20Glover%20character%20are%20you?/"]Which Crispin Glover character are you?[/a]

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... i wanna take that quiz!

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ah ha

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Here.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.quizilla.com/R/rockabillykitty/1056343435_crispingeorge.jpg

sigh.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Take her, dude.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY YOU. GET YOUR DAMN HANDS OFF HER.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.quizilla.com/R/rockabillykitty/1056343679_crispinthinman.jpg

Yet another movie I have not seen

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i got the thin man too (haven't seen it either)

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I got Rubin from Rubin & Ed, which I haven't seen.

You guys haven't seen Charlie's Angels?

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"smokes like a chimey"

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope!

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

*cough*

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

You probably got that cough from smoking like a chimey.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

River's Edge is pretty incredible.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

When I shockingly found myself face-to-face with Crispin a couple years ago, I wanted to stike a Layne pose and hiss "CLARISSSSSSSSA...!"

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

How has Nabisco listened to the FFs' "(I Cannot Get Any) Satisfaction"? Is that even available as a recording?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

From Ev4n's wedding (there was a dessert table rather than a proper cake, but he's known for his love of sheetcake):

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/404936649_e9a6a0c109.jpg?v=0

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

whatever you think of that article, the guy made a good case for doing your part in a democracy. the battered woman syndrome thing was a little harsh, but whatever. people need pots and pans clanging to get their attention these days.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree wholeheartedly. If I had gotten my registration done in time to vote, I would have voted for Brown. If she sucked, we could vote her ass out in another 4 years. That's how it works. Sticking with one entrenched candidate (who doesn't even think enough of the citizenry to campaign for their votes) is the only thing more crazy than voting for a choad, outside of not voting at all.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i couldn't decide if that reader article was lazy journalism or partisan agenda setting, either way it came off so horribly on me that it had exactly the opposite effect than it's intent. and i'm predisposed to voting out entrenched politicos.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

also, the use of session cookies here is driving me absolutely nuts.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I hadn't read the article until I saw it referenced here, but I can pretty safely say it didn't have an effect on me. I had heard enough about how Daley wasn't campaigning, or allowing debates, or allowing interviews, to make up my mind ahead of time.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

At Tokyo Lunchbox in Merchandise Mart, there are a bunch of photos of a huge party that the eatery catered -- lots of balloons and sushi in a big ballroom. Underneath one of them, a photo with the owner shaking hands with this big doughy-looking Chicago dude in a polo shirt, it says "Party for Mr. Pritzker." I wondered if he was rich/famous (esp. because he shares a surname with the pavilion), and lo and behold. (Impressive mostly because the photo makes him look like he'd be most comfortable in Zubaz watching the Bears game.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

a friend of my ex works for the pritzker foundation and she was making sick sick SICK cash for relatively easy work.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

or maybe it wasn't for the foundation but for the family? i can't remember now.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and there's also the Pritzker Architecture Prize, I should've remembered that.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

and that actress (i think she was in devil wears prada? i don't know) is one too, she had to sue her family for her share of the pie but she got it.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Billionaires in the Chicago area:

94 H Ty Warner
122 William Wrigley Jr
144 Lester Crown & family
292 John Calamos
292 Samuel Zell
321 Matthew Bucksbaum & family
387 Thomas Pritzker
413 Michael Krasny
413 Penny Pritzker
437 James Pritzker
437 Jay Robert (JB) Pritzker
437 Jean (Gigi) Pritzker
507 Oprah Winfrey
584 Marvin Herb
584 Nicholas Pritzker II
620 Neil Bluhm
620 Gary Comer

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

94 H Ty Warner

This probably also makes him the richest Kalamazoo College alumnus.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

and i have to go to coinstar on saturday for beer money that night. ;_;

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw that name and thought of chevy chase in caddyshack.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin I know a Coinstar hack so you don't have to pay them their cut!

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

here

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

::raised eyebrow:: Que?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

six and a half percent, YOU ARE MINE!!!!

or is it 8%? i don't remember.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

why don't you just take it to your bank? those bitches count change for free.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmmmmmmm....

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Not mine... They figured out this racket pretty quick, I'd bet.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Although I think their cut is like 5%.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

because my bank is conveniently open when i'm at work and during my normal sleeping hours. i would gladly pay 8% if it means i don't have to wake up and battle bank lines on a saturday morning.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

oh. my old bank (north comm.) did. i haven't had coins counted since then.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

My coin-counting days have waned somewhat now that I have to pay all my quarters to the laundry machine.

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

plus, my bank charges a fee for unrolled change so the worth the 8% things comes back to me.

the last time i went to coinstar i took the contents of one of my piggy banks and it paid for my cab from laguardia to the bowery, my first two slices of pizza of that day, a pack of cigarettes, and two beers. i think i lugged $76 worth of nickles and dimes down to the jewel on ashland/division/milwaukee.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

How has Nabisco listened to the FFs' "(I Cannot Get Any) Satisfaction"? Is that even available as a recording?

There are some secret demo recordings. Did he reference this somewhere? I can put them on the blog or email them maybe.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Usually when I take my big ziploc bag of change to the bank it's about $90 worth, I've got one at home that's just about ripe.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

There are some secret demo recordings. Did he reference this somewhere?

No, I looked up FFs on Last.fm and saw the song, then I clicked on it to see who had listened to it, and it was pretty obvious (Promqueen, Sundays, Final Fantasy, Schneider TM) that it was Nabs.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

you're scary

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, I have been informed that the demos are TOP SECRET.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

...by me. Hi, John.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to be a bitch about it, but how did N get a hold of them?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JCZS.03._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

peanut gallery style guess: he reviews recordz for Pfork

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymc, that's rude. nun ya bizness.

― kenan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, if I wanna take a guy home with me tonight...
If she wanna be a freak n' sell it on the weekend...

j/k

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

peanut gallery style guess: he reviews recordz for Pfork

Of course he does, but the song's not on an album, and it seems unlikely that they'd put up a demo on the Forkcast. BUT WHAT DO I KNOW.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

whatjohnknows.xls

― dan m, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm actually fine with not being able to hear the recording -- it's not like I don't know the song -- I'm just curious, that's all.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't be offended, John. We loves ya.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

John, why aren't you on gmail, I have an xls question.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of secret songs, the 0ptimistic is playing on Friday and our secret cover = A Spoonfull of Sugar. Don't tell anyone.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

...helps the medicine go down?

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

That's the one.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Sweet.

hehehe

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing can top the Harry Connick Jr. version of that tune though.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

The demos are secret because they were intended to shop around and possibly get someone to put out a new album eventually. We sent a copy to Nabs for feedback because he has given us helpful comments before.

― n/a, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Word.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I am the pleased-as-punch owner of a lovely new Calvin Klein suit!! CHEAP!!!!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Where did you get it?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

oOOPS. Just remembered I had some eggs a-boilin'!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

That means you got it at Men's Wearhouse, doesn't it?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, I got it at Lord & Taylor. It was originally $495 ( sold as seperates - $350 for the coat and $145 for the pants) but it was marked down 60% so I paid $198 (!). $215 including tax, tag, and title. It needs only minimal alterations. Actually, in a really tight pinch I could wear it just as it is.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

THIS IS WHY I'M THIS IS WHY I'M HOT I'M HOT CUZ I'M FLY YOU AIN'T CUZ YOU NOT THIS IS WHY I'M THIS IS WHY I'M HOT

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's charcoal, 3 button, ventless. It has pinstripes, both solid and broken. I wish I could go back for a 2nd one in another color!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't get your reference, John.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

L&T has a great selection still. Get down and get while there's still some getting to be got.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

that sounds beautiful, Jesse! I went to Lord & Taylor to try to find a dress on massive sale, but all they had was crushed velvet mid-90s looking dresses. but maybe I wasn't persistent enough.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a new hip-hop song called "This is Why I'm Hot," by someone called Mims.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

(I admire its logic: "I'm hot cuz I'm fly. You ain't cuz you not.")

― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I never shopped at L&T much, but from what I understand, they are pretty conservative. Which is probably why I never shopped there much.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

These are its crumbum.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

they are conservative, but if you're getting basic dressy clothes, they can be a good place to check. i got my maid of honor dress for my sister's wedding there on sale--a sleeveless floor-length shift. i looked hot.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Besides their suits, they also had a lot of FCUK sweaters and shirts. And LOTS of leather jackets. But the rest was definitly pretty conservative--pastel and neon cable knit sweaters, pleated twill pants.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever even been in L&T.

Hi. I have been a busy bean today. Did I miss anything?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Dear Beer,

I love you soooooooooo much.

Love,
Jenny

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, your audience on the vadge horror stories thread wants more details.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Jak's tap was great. I got many ups and hi-fives from Wings fans, and had good conversation with the most knowledgable Hawks fan I have met thus far. It was nice to hear someone talk about hockey rationally instead of just "RED WINGS SUCK, FAGS, LOSERS" etc.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

UPDATE: After scouting the southbound Orange Line, I found one of the CSO ads at the Western, and it is currently in my room. Pictures soon!

― Ivan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, your audience on the vadge horror stories thread wants more details.

I didn't see evidence of that.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel sassy today.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Daley, Richard (i) 317,266 71.18 %
Brown, Dorothy 89,235 20.02 %
Walls, William 39,217 8.80 %

I think the statistic that I heard on the news last night was that 32% of voters voted yesterday. I'm pretty sure that was 32% of registered voters, not countable Chicagoans. That was an all-time low. I don't have words for how lame this is. Local elections affect our daily lives so much more than national, yet no one cares. I mean, not even 1/3.

LAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAMELAME

lame.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

jess do tell

Charmmy Kitty's Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (ex machina) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:23 PM (2 weeks ago)

I'm hoping this involves an actual vagina face.

Tep (ktepi) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:28 PM (2 weeks ago)

Like the frat boys are known for saying, "I was drunk" or maybe "I was just experimenting."

I do have a surname, but it's silent. (unclejessjess) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:43 PM (2 weeks ago)

face-to-face?

jambalaya backgammon (grady) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:58 PM (2 weeks ago)

jess did you DO IT with the vagina???

grbchv! (skowly) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 7:08 PM (2 weeks ago)

scg's story still sort of wins everything on this thread

xpost sounds like it was more of a vadge meet-n-greet

Elsa Svitborg (tracerhand) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 7:11 PM (2 weeks ago)

Miami style.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

David R. (popshots75`) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 7:16 PM (2 weeks ago)

why don't I get invited to those

Curt1s (Curtis Stephens) on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 7:17 PM (2 weeks ago)

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That was all vadge thread transcription. Sorry - I didn't realize the hlines were so authentic looking.

I feel like Chicago voters feel completely disempowered to do anything about anything. Everywhere you look, you hear or see people talking about Daley is going to win no matter what, so why bother? That's how it feels, anyway.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Like, I can't even find results for my ward! I'm sure that Schiller won (because she's an incumbent and then tend to stay that way) but I'm at least curious. That's what I mean about a foregone conclusion.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa for a second there I was confused with all of the vaginal talk.

Ok , so what you're saying is that the battered wife syndrome comparison isn't so off the mark after all, or am I just hearing that? What it looks like to me is that it's ok if he sneaks around behind our backs, consorts with unsavory individuals and treats us like dung as long as there are flowers in the flower baskets and a shiny new item on Michigan Ave. that we can show to our friends from out of town.

2/3 of Chicago voters are disempowered because they don't vote. I'm not all angry or anything, but if people don't vote, they are most certainly disempowered.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

2/3 of Chicago voters are disempowered because they don't vote.

not to get all jaymc on you but doesn't the word "disempowered" infer that someone's power is being TAKEN from them rather than being given away freely and willingly? like they're being deprived of power rather than rejecting it? or is that just my interpretation?

also, i strained my left groin muscle running down the ramp for the el this morning. things can only get better from here, right?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to the trib website and the results are listed there in order

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2007/by_state/IL_Page_0227.html?SITE=ILCHTELN&SECTION=POLITICS

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea what that word means denotatively, but I know that if people surrender, they are the ones giving up. Aside from those shysters who call voters to tell them that they'll be thrown in jail if they try to vote and they have unpaid parking tickets, people seem to be surrendering all on their own. I got like 100 phone calls from my alderman trying to get me out on election day. He even offered me a ride to the polling place.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I did not vote for him.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i actually care a lot more about the alderman race than the mayoral race because i don't live in bridgeport and it will be my alderman who is responsible for patching potholes and fixing sidewalks and making sure burned out street lights get replaced.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just coming here to post that I know that what I said was a self-fulfilling prophecy ("I can't make a difference so I won't vote but if I don't vote I'll never make a difference). I was also going to say that I might be projecting this sense of pointlessness and defeat because I've been reading a lot about the relationship between domestic violence and welfare, which makes the battered wife syndrome comparison not only apt but eerie.

This is also where I have to say that I didn't vote because I have yet to change my address and voter registration. I am embarrassed by this.

Kevin, I'm not even sure that disempowered is a proper word.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I'm just saying that I can follow the thought process of someone who is feeling defeated by Chicago politics and therefore doesn't bother to vote. I mean, shit, we voted for Todd Stroger in November and then he put through devastating budget cuts! That's got me feeling pretty defeated, and I'm basing my career on not being defeated.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah BUT part of not being defeated is voting. The next time that turd Stroger is up for election, we vote for someone else. That's how it works.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Taking an active role = not being defeated. Even if you're occasionally wrong.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

The Bad Emily was working for someone running for alderman who I am pretty sure lost (I can't remember the ward) which means that she'll lock herself in the closet for the next couple months.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh. Helen Schiller won by a smaller margin that I expected.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm off to class. I want to apologize for being so zealous about voting, but I can't. It's something we should all do.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This is also where I have to say that I didn't vote because I have yet to change my address and voter registration. I am embarrassed by this.

Kevin, I'm not even sure that disempowered is a proper word.

Jenny on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:23 AM (7 minutes ago)

i've moved in each of the last four years, i haven't voted at my correct polling place in since 2003. i just show up at the old place and cast my vote there.

jenny, according to dictionary.com disempowered is a word but when i copied the above quote it erased the definition i had copied and i'm too lazy to go back. also, i have nothing against the use of made up words.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

disempowered is a perfectly cromulent word.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I committed voter fraud in the last election. I just got scared to do it again for fear that the bar people would find out and come shoot me.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse has shamed me. I'll do better next time, I promise.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I have various excuses for not voting, but they are pretty weak excuses, and I know deep down that Jesse is right.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

battered woman : abuser :: jenny : IL bar people

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny, what was the name of the temp agency jeff had a good (or at least not miserable) experience with?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't you mean Amanda, Nick?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

It's something really easy, like Chicago Office Temps or something but I always forget what it is.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

New Office Temps

― Jeff, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's funny how someone asks that same question about once a week, not that I ever remember either though.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I know! Me, too.

Oh, hey potential job seekers, there is a federal govt job fair at the DePaul Lincoln Park campus this Friday. It's $5 if you're not an alumni of a number of Chicago colleges, but open to the public. Bring resumes.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I am dumb.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

and hungry.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought you were making an obscure joke and intentionally confusing Amanda with Jesse and I, personally, decided to find it surrealistly funny.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Eat some oatmeal, Nickcakes.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I just had oatmeal! Oatmeal with blueberries in it, which is usually my favorite, but it was kind of disappointing. Oh well. I get a free law school lunch today on the ABA. THANKS FUCKERZ.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

We bought one of those ridiculous 55-packet oatmeal boxes at Costco. I am having Cinnamon Roll flavor at the mo'.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like instant oatmeal very much. It's good in a pinch or to take to work but for home use I'm all about the Quaker Oats. Not even quick oats! Slooooooow oats. (Note: the time prep difference between regular rolled oats and quick oats is about four minutes.)

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I also like pinhead oats but they really do take forever. It's like cooking dried beans.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I had oatmeal this morning already. I just can't keep the names straight on NuILX. And for some reason, harassing people about voting seemed more like a Jesse thing than an Amanda thing.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

steelcut oats are where it's at.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Oatists.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I love regular oatmeal with brown sugar, but these packets are great for throwing in my bag and having quickly at my desk at work.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I had to harass Jesse into voting. Three times now. And he's still one ahead of me.

Oatists = LOL

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Dudes - and yes, I say 'Dudes' - I am about to go remind my boss of the review I was supposed to have a month ago. WISH ME WELL!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

So, a guy from my band and a friend of his are doing this thing where they live on $30 worth of food (each) for the month of March. Dollar a day. You're not allowed food that people give you, but discarded food is okay. Do you think you could do it? What would be your strategy? Bulk rice? Ramen?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i could do it and since i've been flat broke for at least two weeks a month since december i've probably been close to it but the real question is why the fuck would i want to?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

You're not allowed food that people give you

That's silly! I could get free lunch at school three days a week if I wanted to. Learning to work the free lunch/free food happy hour circuit is an integral part of eating while very, very broke. And what's the difference between somebody saying, "Do you want the rest of this pizza? I'm just going to throw it away" and you waiting until they toss it and just dig it out of the trash.

Your friends clearly have no legitimate hippy life experience with that kind of arbitrary limitation.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's to get some perspective on how much they overspend/overeat normally. For context, one of these guys is a rugged dude, he has been known to pick up roadkill and cook it at home.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

He isn't in his office!

I think you should be able to accept food people give you, because otherwise it might be wasted. Anyway, if I did it I'd make up a huge thing of black beans and rice. You can eat that as is or put it in a tortilla and make a quesadilla... Basically, I'd eat Mexican food. It's cheap. Speaking of... I plan to make beans & rice tonight.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

But yeah, what Jenny said. (Stupid not seeing x-posts...)

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I very briefly considered doing a year of NO BUYING then remembered that:
a) I have a wedding this year
b) Who am I kidding? I would give in after a day and then just feel guilty. Better just not try!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

But that said, my most awesome weapon during my "Wow, I actually can't afford food WTF" days was a vegan cookbook that had recipes for biscuits and pancakes that required neither eggs nor milk and were, IIRC, fairly tasty. Flour is cheap.

Your friends should stick with staples and get ready to do a lot of cooking. Buy in bulk. Go as whole grain as affordably possible. Get big bags of frozen store brand vegetables or better yet, buy fresh veggies yourself and clean/prep/freeze them so you save money and don't waste any food.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah is right - dried beans are where it's at. Bags of dried beans cost CENTS. A big bag of brown rice, some sacks of dried beans, a head of garlic and small bag of yellow onions are less than $10 and will feed your ass for a week.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's to get some perspective on how much they overspend/overeat normally

this isn't something i am familiar with so i have no point of reference.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

How to eat cheap as hell, for Christ: http://hillbillyhousewife.com/

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, if your friend is willing to EAT ROADKILL, he should seriously be allowed to eat roadkill while on his $30/month experiment. Wowsers.

Does the $30 include beer?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

not to get all jaymc on you but doesn't the word "disempowered" infer that someone's power is being TAKEN from them

No, but it implies that. "Disempowered" is a word, though. (Wait, why is questioning word definitions "all jaymc"?)

I mean, shit, we voted for Todd Stroger in November and then he put through devastating budget cuts!

I voted for Peraica.

Huh. Helen Schiller won by a smaller margin that I expected.

Doesn't surprise me too much. At the fundraiser, Cappleman kept referring to some League of Women Voters gaffe that Schiller had made, which he thought would tilt the election his way. He kept saying "the numbers look good." I know that's what you're supposed to say when you're trying to rally the troops, but still.

I will admit that I didn't vote yesterday. I know that theoretically local politics are supposed to have more of a day-to-day impact on my life, but in a weird way, it's harder to actually see those effects because they're not reported like national news is. Like, I have no idea what Gene Schulter has done or not done that has affected my way of life. And if, as Kevin suggests, it's mostly a matter of patching potholes and fixing burnt-out streetlights, it's not really anything I can get worked up about one way or another. Plus, since we live in Chicago, most of the candidates on either side of the ticket are Democrats, it's hard for me to feel strongly about voting against someone, because I don't have a simple label ("Republican") to clue me into the fact that we're probably going to be pretty ideologically different.

I'll also say, though, that I don't really pay much attention to local politics. I don't watch Chicago Tonight or listen to 848 on a regular basis, and I didn't even read the Ben Joravsky article in the Reader, so I don't really know why Daley is so awful, except for the usual complaints about croneyism and the fact that his stronghold on the office is sort of scary and undemocratic. The point is, even though that sucks, I don't know how that's affecting me personally. Which is not to say that that should be someone's only standard for voting -- your higher moral principles should also come into play -- but when I'm repeatedly told that local politics affects me more, I just have to ask, "How?" I'd rather pay attention to state and national politics, because they're more interesting to me.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I've known some roadkill eaters, but they were picky ones. They'd only go for the "best" cuts if they were intact, which I thought was awesome.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, roadkill is definitely in. You're OTM about the people giving you food thing too, I think the non-roadkill guy said that rule is being relaxed. He's a social worker and his plan was for his students to give him the fruit from their lunches that they normally throw away.

I imagine it'll be a beer-free month. I'm sure there's some liquor in the cabinet though.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of which my present for helping with/playing at my friend's wedding was a flask with my name engraved on it, pretty cool.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, I almost got sonned by Steve Edwards from Eight Forty-Eight. They did a bit where they called a made-up alderman (Ed Bus, 54th Ward) and I couldn't believe what an asshole this guy was and I was starting to post about it! And then I found out he was not a real alderman. And then I told you all about how dumb I am.

See, this is the thing! Nobody knows who these aldermen are! I have no idea who was running against Gene Schulter, anyway. I got a couple brochures from Schulter in my mailbox but nothing from anyone else. Now, if you want to harass me for not knowing stuff, then that makes more sense to me than harassing me for not voting, because if I had gone to the polls yesterday, I would've just made a bunch of random selections.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Taking fruit from your students, when you are a social worker, should be a flogging offense. Kids need fruit!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i have taken to assuming anything grammar-related or etymological in nature is in the jaymc domain, just as all legal matters are jenny's. dan, you get hockey.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

That 848 shit is genius. They had a whole series of those bits last week.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

But they refuse to eat it!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Insert harassment of John for not knowing stuff here.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i know who my alderman is because staffers (campaign workers?) would come around twice a year and ask how everything is going in the neighborhood and how responsive the city was to our needs.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, you get hockey.

w00t

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan also gets GEOGRAPHY.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow! That's pretty awesome. I have never seen nor heard from Helen Schiller OR Tom Tunney (it is still up in the air who my actual alderperson is. I'm on the border, and calling their offices gets me one response, and plugging my address into the alderperson finder gets me another). Except during this election time.

I would like to unseat whoever is responsible for never clearing the sidewalks around here.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i know who my alderman is because staffers (campaign workers?) would come around twice a year and ask how everything is going in the neighborhood and how responsive the city was to our needs.

This has never happened to me in the six years I've lived in Chicago. Also, I have no idea what I would even say to such a question. What could I possibly complain about? What sort of "needs" could I have that the city could fulfill? I mean, maybe if I lived in a gang-infested area and I wanted more cops on the street or something, but I literally don't know what else I could say.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw shucks, I get all the fun topics. That reminds me, I was taking this online quiz the other day, and I got sonned by Oceana.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure you could come up with a couple of things to say about the CTA. And if you couldn't, you either aren't trying hard enough or you're not paying attention.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I imagine you guys would all pay a lot more attention if you were property owners and/or business owners.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(me too)

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone read up on the TIF zones at all? I think I would yell about that a bit if an alderdrone came by my house.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure you could come up with a couple of things to say about the CTA

I have no complaints about the CTA.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

What sort of "needs" could I have that the city could fulfill?

the things the aldermen are supposed to take care of; filling potholes, replacing street lights, putting up stop signs at dangerous intersections, taking care of graffiti, affecting police patrols. those are the first things that come to mind.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan OTM about being a property/business owner.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin -- like I said earlier, if my car hits a pothole once in a while, that's not enough to get all up and arms and demand someone do something about it. We live in an urban area = there are potholes. No big deal. And like I care if there's graffiti. These don't seem like serious problems! Again, gangs = totally. But I haven't seen any gangs in Ravenswood.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

clearing the flippin snow off the sidewalks

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to live in John's world with no CTA hassles or civic complaints.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Sidewalk clearing is (at least in part) the civic responsibility of the people who live on the sidewalk, IMHO.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone should read Off the Books. It talks about how alderman, police, and pastors deal with a lot of these ward specific issues, specifically. Also how that jives with the city government.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

My No.1 complaint about my hood would be too many new condos, but I doubt my alderman would be willing to do anything about that, considering all the $$$ they bring in.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan in advocating homeless people being in charge of sidewalk sanitation shocka!

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

, specifically gang activity.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

why would I have a complaint for an elected official?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't say shovel the alleys!

(going to hell)

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, I can see that logic, in which case I would like my alderperson to hold those people accountable by giving them tickets or something, especially since it's largely storefronts lining the sidewalks five blocks in either direction from my house, so it's not like a resident has to get up early to clear the sidewalk for me on his own time.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

How about when the alderman signs off on huge condo developments that just so happen to be financed by their largest campaign donor? Or when your tax money gets collected, sent to a different ward, and used to finance business development instead of your local school?

I don't know about any of that. Where do you hear about it?

One reason I was hesitant about doing the Cappleman fundraiser is that I know that he's pro-development and Schiller isn't. I found that out from my bandmate Megan, who's met Schiller through some of the social services she's worked at.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan hates the homeless.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Where do you hear about it?

Watch local news. Read newspapers.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not being sarcastic - that's actually where you find out about that stuff. It's not hidden.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I know. The 2008 presidential race is so much more interesting, though.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I totally agree that businesses who don't shovel the sidewalks should be hung out to dry, especially the bars/cafes that put their stupid tables all over the place in the summer! But in residential areas, yeah, a little leeway is necessary. But it still amazes me that people will shovel only the 6 squares of pavement directly in front of their house, and neglect the end of the block where there might not be a house or something. I blame this all on my upbringing: shoveling was just something you did, because if you didn't things got fucked up pretty quickly.

John, I read about that stuff in the Reader, Trib online, etc.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think we all know what the real problem is here: governtainment.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Daily Show references killed thread dead

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I totally agree that businesses who don't shovel the sidewalks should be hung out to dry

Really? It's just snow.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

ppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It's just snow until it sits there for a week in subfreezing temperatures and turns into filthy treacherous ice that is really dangerous to walk on.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

And people let their dogs shit in it and then when the snow finally melts there's ancient semifrozen dog shit everywhere.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

This guy that sits across from me who I have to look at all day does this thing where (I think) he bites his hand just below his thumb hard enough that his head vibrates. He does this several times daily.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha, nuilx lets you post a blank message.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. John's being EXTRA jaymc today. Reading over this thread was almost more than I could handle.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Or gets churned into wet sloppy slush that sucks to walk through.

The point is that it takes scant MINUTES to clear it away and save a lot of other people a lot of hassle.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

How does that killfile work again?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

snow on sidewalks makes it really easy for those in wheelchairs to get around or people who use walkers/canes/etc. that's one good thing about living across from a hospital, they are so afraid of someone falling on their sidewalks that they are clear almost before the snow can accumulate.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry. That was kind of nasty. I'm a little hung over and crabby today.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a good point about the elderly/disabled.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess the thing is, I just don't expect government to do anything for me. There are definitely people it should do stuff for, but I don't consider myself one of them.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

kevin makes points. jenny gets exasperated and argues. jaymc doesn't get things. kenan opines. sarah tells work stories. jeff comes along occasionally and naysays. nick swings by and says something incisive/insightful and puts things in perspective.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

What? I do?

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you do.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm having some blackberries right now and I think I love them more than the baby Jesus.

Hey! I don't only tell work stories! I also talk about what I'm eating.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Blackberries are the shit!

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

blackberries are indeed the shit. lingonberries too.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I love blackberries, boysenberries, currants, gooseberries, strawberries, and raspberries.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

AND LINGONBERRIES. I'M SORRY LINGONBERRIES, I DIDN'T MEAN TO FORGET YOU.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate blackberries

http://www.telusmobility.com/images/pcs/blackberry_7250_handset_lg.gif

― Jeff, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I can take or leave berries.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

jeff has no soul. or perhaps the soul of a serial killer or despotic genocidal madman or a children's birthday party clown.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

and jordan is his spawn.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I know two people that dislike berries. One of them is my coworker Laura. The other is Kr.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot about Jesse: he tells stories about his day (i.e., blogs) and bitches. I did not mean to make ILX caricatures of you all.

Some of you like Dan and Amanda are hard to pin down.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Jeff was referring to the device, not the food. Or so I hope. Or he was just fulfilling my previous summary of him.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel and Kevin talk about smoking. Laurel talks about fashion. Amanda talks about boots, skirts and teaching.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I talk to myself.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess blue and straw are pretty great.

What do I do, Jesse? From my POV I talk about food and irrelevant topics that are more related to myself than to Chicago.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i would totally love to be able to light up at my desk. i don't really want to put on my jacket and shit just to stand in the cold to smoke. is there a TT going on tomorrow?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

This is a good article about what aldermen do. (PS I know that "alderperson" is more PC, but I cling to "alderman" because of the awesome adjective "aldermanic.") (PPS This article might only be useful for people like me that blithely ignore city politics.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. I forgot: Jenny takes on pop culture from a feminist perspective.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

She's a one-woman Bitch magazine, she is.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What's your Chilx superpower?

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i would totally love to be able to light up at my desk. i don't really want to put on my jacket and shit just to stand in the cold to smoke.

Nah, the best thing about smoke breaks is the change of pace.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeh, I guess you talk about fried foods and doods. Cuz you're hungry and gay. That's my role, actually.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i would totally love to be able to light up at my desk. i don't really want to put on my jacket and shit just to stand in the cold to smoke.

Nah, the best thing about smoke breaks is the change of pace.

I don't know. I loved the job I had where I could smoke at my desk. That never stopped me from taking a smoke break.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't make TT tomorrow, as I have band practice. Our schedule has been pretty irregular lately, since there's basically eight people in the band now (former pianist/guitarist plus new pianist/guitarist), but I think we're doing Thursdays for the next two weeks and then going back to Wednesdays.

What's on the docket for the weekend, though? Kr will be in Mississippi from Thursday night through Saturday night.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

mmm. Hungry and gay.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i just realized i can't go to TT either anyway, i think i'm going to milwaukee friday night then to sub-t saturday, then the bottle sunday. whatever $$$ i have i need to save.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been keeping up with him. He's kind of my favorite celeb killer.

xpost.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

We are having band practice tomorrow as well.

We have no plans this weekend.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I love the killer that convinced a dude to eat his own fried penis. That's persuasive. Props, bro.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Like when Lecter got the dude in the next cell to kill himself just by talking to him all night.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

What's going on in Mke, Kevin?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Kenan. I immediately hit "back" when I saw the word "cannibal" in the article title, so I'm glad you've synopsized it for me.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

band one of my best friends drums for and my upstairs neighbor fronts is playing their first show with the pared down line-up. i want to see how it sounds. it's at linneman's which i've never been to.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I love the killer that convinced a dude to eat his own fried penis. That's persuasive. Props, bro.

The guy volunteered! He wanted to be eaten!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Alderman is absolutely correct. For example, if you call Schiller's office, the person answers "Alderman Helen Schiller's office." I just use "alderperson" to be contrary. And yes, aldermanic is a pretty awesome word. Alderpersonic would take some getting used to.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i would like it if my alderman adopted an over the top alter ego, like a super hero or something. it could be alderpersona.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Note: Jeff is a pacifist, and is both nonviolent and conflict averse so he is definitely no serial killer or despot. He'll be the first to admit to his own soulessness, however.

The birthday clown thing would sure explain all the big shoes and red foam rubber noses I find around the house...

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

The guy volunteered! He wanted to be eaten!

I imagine it worked like clever advertising. Through the power of suggestion, he began to THINK he wanted to be eaten.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, there was an image of a Blackberry device posted beneath my claim of hate. If you have images turned off, there is no indication that an image has even been posted.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The birthday clown thing would sure explain all the big shoes and red foam rubber noses I find around the house...

"oh, those honey.... ? uhm, yeah, uh.... those are mine! yes, those are definitely mine, i'm a birthday party clown in my spare time."
[cut to shot of half-naked clown trying to sneak out of jenny & jeff's house, tiptoeing with his right foot but forgetting he has a clown horn strapped to his left]

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

HI JULIA.

How do you feel about berries and/or that German cannibal dude?

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Favorite line from Undeclared last night: "You're not my girlfriend, you're my girlenemy!"

I've been to Linnemann's, it's alright. One of my friends used to work there and plays there a lot.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

dammit, it wasn't letting me post before, so that was a test.

also, jenny is more interesting than bitch magazine, and i should become better educated about local politics and disability issues.

i need to eat something before i become all homicidal from low blood sugar. that kind of happened yesterday. i'm not going to tell where the bodies are, though.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I imagine it worked like clever advertising. Through the power of suggestion, he began to THINK he wanted to be eaten.

READ ABOUT HIM. The deceased man met him in an internet chat room dedicated to cannibalism. He was seeking out someone to eat him. Meiwes met a few other men who also wanted to be eaten, but they chickened out.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i like berries very much. i eat loads of frozen berries in smoothies with milk and yogurt. that's some good fairly-inexpensive food, btw. as well as the aforementioned steel-cut oats, which rock.

the cannibalism thing is CREEPY. but interesting.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

the website leaves a lot to be desired. how big is the room? how does it sound? i think the last time i was in mke i saw a show at a place that reminded me of someone's parent's basement rec room. i can't remember the name of the place. is mad planet a venue or a record store because that sounds familiar.

also, milwaukee record stores kick ass. i want to go to atomic like right now.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

also, that is obviously an xpost but not so obvious is that it was to jordan.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been sonned in cannibal chat room murder beef.

I cannot live with this shame.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

God I love my job sometimes, especially when we get papers that have conclusions like this:

A few years ago, people all over the world have seen the grand scene that the comet collided the Jupiter,
however in the continuous collision there was no water splashed from the process, this is the most strange
matter。 Nevertheless such phenomena provides strong evidence for the viewpoint in this article。
Recently in the experiment of the aircraft of America colliding the surface of the Moon, water was not
found either, it seemed to be another evidence for this paper。 In the future the experiment that the bureau
of cosmonautics of America try to blow the nuclear of comet to piece will finally proves the comets that
once cycled around the sun for thousands , millions of times contains no volatile materials any more!

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Mad Planet's a venue, I've never seen a band there but it's good for dj's/dancing. My friends go there alll the time.

Linnemann's is a bar with a largish back room and a high stage. I've had drinks there but haven't seen bands, so I don't know how it sounds.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been meaning to get to Milwaukee for a weekend but these gigs keep popping up.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't collide the Jupiter, you maniacs!

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I was frustrated by the fact that Stonefly Brewery doesn't have a website, just a MySpace, with no information about how to buy tickets for shows, and so eventually I just called them up and said "Hey -- how do I buy advance tickets?" And the woman who answered was like, "Yeah, uh, we don't really sell tickets in advance," and I said "Well, I'm driving from Chicago, I don't want to get there and find the show is sold out," and she said, "In all the time I've been here, we've never had a show sell out. But it's funny you should ask because someone else from Chicago called me earlier today asking the exact same question." I guess that's the difference between living in the 3rd-largest city in the U.S. and living in the 22nd-largest.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

When I saw Mouse on Mars there it probably should have been "sold out". The place was paaaacked.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan, there's a good show at linneman's on the 23rd.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh. Guess I'll have to get there early, then. I have no idea how popular Girl Talk is in Milwaukee, but if MoM packs 'em in, I could see the show doing a brisk business.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, the 23rd is when I'm going to be there.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

well if your show is sold out, go over to linneman's for music i can't imagine you'd ever enjoy.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome. Actually, I think I might enjoy seeing some of the music you like in the context of a live setting, as spectacle.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

You should try listening as spectacle. It's fun.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea what that meant.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

the crowd may get a little too surly for your tastes. i just remembered why i don't go to milwaukee more.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

That doesn't make sense.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

(Sorry, that was an xpost to Kenan.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

When is the GT show?

― Jeff, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

March 23. You should come with us!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=52482#unread

Stop eating and get back here for my amusement.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

is this it?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

It is. I thought for some reason this ILZ might do the thing that the orig. did where if you paste the URL for an ILX thread, it automatically changes the URL into the name of the thread and a link. But I forgot that this is ILX 2.0.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK. Couldn't log in this morning and as I am sick at home, that was a srs inconvenience. Now remedied.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Who's playing at that show on the 23rd, Kevin?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I ate way too much for lunch. Again. "Half" (their idea of a half sandwich is to take two whole pieces from the smaller side of the loaf apparently) pastrami + salami sandwich and a "medium" (large) "cup" (carton) of chili. It was great.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Now tell us about some dudes.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a Netflix citizen once again. I still think it's weird that my account just disappeared--no "Credit card authorization failed," or "Let's just be friends"--nothing. But whatever, I get a 2nd free month trial.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

(their idea of a half sandwich is to take two whole pieces from the smaller side of the loaf apparently)

Haha, Bake for Me does this, too.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

23rd at linnemans:

CARBONAS

W/

THE PETS, GENTELMAN JESSI & HIS MEN, PLEXI 3

carbonas are atlanta punks that are really really talented and somewhat fucked up.
the pets are from oakland, ca and i've only heard them twice and never seen them so i couldn't tell you.
gentleman jesse & his men are jesse (and i think dave) from the carbonas. they put out a debut 7" earlier this year of power pop goodness and it's so far my favorite record of the year. really really good.
plexi 3 are mke punk, ex of the kill-a-watts and monitors.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

gentleman jesse & his men

Jesse if this were old ILX you would have a new screen name.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going back to the sandbox.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Have fun, we'll see you when you get bored.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

OK. Recommend me some movies. My queue was at around 75 when I was last a Netflixor.

Over the summer there were a number of movies that I wanted to see, but now I forget. Marie Antoinette, For Your Consideration....and ??

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, have you heard of the following Mke punk bands that my friends play in:

M0dern Machines
Lefty L00sie
Bob Ücker

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

God help me I'm doing actual work today.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh. It's not as dead over in the sandbox as I would have thought.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

only heard of the first one and never actually heard them.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw 3 episodes of the Sarah Silverman show last night and enjoyed them.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I have Jesus Is Magic at home, haven't watched it yet.

In a little while I'm going to meet my new team, so I'll be in meetings for the rest of the day. Hope they don't suck. Take care of each other, Chicago.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I have taken to saying, "What the cock is that?" Thanks, Sarah.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Who, mmeeee? Did I say that at some point? Was I drunk?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Woah, the Britishes dude in Undeclared was in Children of Men.

Okay, I'm really going now.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Sarah Silverman.

Though now that I think of it, you should start saying it, too.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a work enemy. He is a nasty, mean, greedy man. He calls his wife (who is actually a girlfriend/baby mama who he refuses to marry) his bitch, talks about all the other women he is dating/fucking, smacks girls on the ass (hard), touches my ass, brags about how much money he makes (last year he made $72,000!). He doesn't contribute to any sort of teamwork, and if you need his help, he will flat out refuse. Despite all of this, he gets the best stations, the most shifts, and the best shifts. The managers love him. WTF??

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like management material to me.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

No shit.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

sarah is so otm that people named tom can't spell their names as she has collected all the o's, t's, and m's.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

He would never go into management because he can make so much more money as a server, but if he was interested, I'm sure that he would be in the running for promotion. He's only worked there for a year! And he is better off in a number of ways than even those servers who have been there for 8 or 16 years. What a piece of the shit.

Oh, and he has some idea that we should be doing French service/food. We are high volume, business crowd, Thai- and Cajun-influenced seafood, we can't go flambee-ing and preparing Caesar salads tableside, there's no time, room, or reason for it. And he wears gawdy expensive Armani watches. He lurvs Armani. And he drives a fairly late model BMW.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you guys been following the Joyce Hatto thread on ILM? It's fascinating. I love stories about frauds. This one is sad though.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

This dude sounds like he has something going on the side, like pushing powder or something else.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't read the thread, but I caught mention of it on Alex Ross's blog.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(The scandal, not the thread.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, well, it's really the story that's interesting, not the thread.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

How did this go on so long before one person finally noticed the iTunes track names?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Because most of her recordings had silence tacked on, or the track stretched in some way so that CDDB wouldn't identify it as a different recording. Maybe they'd gotten lazy by the time they released the Liszt recording.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

baby animals in love

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

OH. And this jackass dabbles in steroids too.

His name is Jorge.

Ok, that's the end of my rant.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

The "dabbles in steroids" bit only convinces me further that he's got some business going on under the table.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

[img]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42623000/jpg/_42623691_out1_416_ap.jpg[/img]

In this pic it looks like there is an orangutan with a tiger's body. I suppose that if an adult orangutan and a grown tiger loved each other verrrry much, this could result.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK YOU. Why can't we just have regular REAL BBCode around here?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42623000/jpg/_42623691_out1_416_ap.jpg

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like some nasty weather coming tonight, I hear there's a flood watch...

Weather Underground dot com

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, i was in logan square saturday night and couldn't get a cab to save my life. i walked to the blue line at spaulding from diversey and i was COVERED in snow by the time i got there. so logan square? you can go pound sand.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah, sorry to hear that. You should have stopped by! I would have given you a ride, I wasn't doing shit.

They ususally hang out at the opposite end of the train stop (on Kedzie), but rarely more than 2 at a time. It's a pain. Anymore I just call for one if I am taxiing somewhere. 312TAXICAB

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, I'm listening to the new Explosions in the Sky, and they remind me of Do Make Say Think in places -- do you know them at all?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand why Nick said the Hatto fraud is sad.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I really like them. There was some snark on ILM recently that they are the "Coldplay" of the post-rocky bands, which I can kinda see. At any rate, yeah, big fan here... first show I saw after moving here. Check out The Rescue which I believe can be downloaded for free from their website.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I mean, do you know Do Make Say Think? I know you like EITS, which is why I brought it up.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh shit, yeah, I gotcha. They're pretty alright, but I've only heard their latest record. Bunch of Broken Social Scene people, right?

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to this Yume Bitsu record today, which reminds me at times of DMST.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think a couple of the guys play in Broken Social Scene. I like them because they combine the jazzy side of Chicago post-rock (maj-7th guitar figures, shuffly hi-hat rhythms) with the big crescendo-and-release dynamics of bands like Mogwai and GBYE.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The "dabbles in steroids" bit only convinces me further that he's got some business going on under the table.

I don't think so. I just think he spends his money on himself and his """wife""" and daughter get what's left over.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Do Make Say Think

i saw them saturday night. not my thing but it was decent background music.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant GYBE, not GBYE.

I like background music.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Just back on Explosions for a second... check out "Day 5" off of The Rescue which has my, like, favorite beat in a loooong time holding it down. Maybe I'll just put it on the blog...

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I had thought about going to that show, too, until the Ethiopian beer dinner presented itself. I think my friend Leah was there.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I, too, thought about going to that show, until it snowed a shitload and no-one I knew wanted to go. Wish I had known you were there!

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

meant GYBE, not GBYE.

no, you mean GY!BE

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

it was PACKED. i always forget that my favorite music is a sub-genre of a sub-genre of a niche of genre that nobody really cares about in the first place until i walk into a show like that. i went to a show in logan square, dropped off a cd for a friend on ashland & fullerton then went home. i wasn't going to go back out as i was soaked and miserable and SOBER for christ's sake but then a friend txt'd me at 11:40 and i got up from beneath my blankets on my sofa and headed over. i had fun.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

That is a cool beat.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Day 5 is on the blog (although it looks like jaymc's got it already). I have to listen to the song a couple times now, god damn I love that beat!

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Two thousand and five was our year to take a bit of a step back and take some time to write new music, and along the way somewhere we got an idea for doing this e.p. in a different way then we've ever approached writing music. It can take us months and months and months to write even a song. Sometimes it comes much quicker, but often we spend many an afternoon trying out new melodies and riffs and drum beats, playing things over and over, obsessing and arguing and sighing and sitting silently for what seems to be hours on end. So, for this, our idea was to write and record a song every day for two weeks (this later became eight days) and the rest of the two weeks would be spent trying to mix and master the results. No riffs were to be written beforehand; things would be pretty much made up on the spot. It seemed daunting but fun and, perhaps, instructive. A learning experience. A chance to try new instruments and new ways of thinking about writing songs.

HI DERE

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

That's why I almost like that EP more than any of their other releases, because for the most part it sounds very different from anything else they've put out.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I absolutely love reading 1-star reviews. Going over Arrested Development 1-stars--no big surprises* but still satisfying reading.

*Perhaps I missed something. Something important. But I could not sit through even the extended pilot. I understand my tastes must be weird but come on, look at, say, Golden Girls, or The Nanny. Those shows are cracking. This one? No way. Supersized monologues, dialogues that seem to be out of school play, just boring. Some people say they need a "background laughing track", well it's missing for a reason -- the show is not funny.

The show, however, is a little too cornball (to use a show phrase) for me. [This actually is sort of surprising. AD? Cornball??]

I had to stop after the first disc because every single character drove me nuts. You want to smack them, shake them, drive them far out into a desert and abandon to walk home, and hope they don't make it. They're not just eccentric or disfunctional...they're the most selfish people on earth. If this is where America is heading or what riches can do, save me from both. I loathed them all, even the one sensible son who tries so hard for "family." I kept saying: Run, run, run...take your son and run for it! But he doesn't. Idiot.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

But he doesn't.

Should've stuck around.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It always amazes me when people don't get joeks, like those freepers who thought the Colbert Report was for reals.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Some people say they need a "background laughing track"

I don't think I've ever heard anyone argue in favor of a laugh track before. Ever, for anything, ever.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Some of these reviewers favorite movies: Phat Girls, The Nutty Professor, Big Fish.

Also hated: (Cronenberg's) Crash, Hedwig, and Happiness.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Though surely it has happened in history. Married With Children would be lost without the laugh track.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm tired of working. You think there's a Married With Children marathon on somewhere?

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

That review is kind of how I feel about AD, too. Altho I have only seen maybe two eps ever.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it's really better on dvd, from the beginning.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The NY Times has a big profile of Chi thetre scene today, incl place I've never heard of called House Theater.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

look at, say, Golden Girls, or The Nanny. Those shows are cracking

...

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

if anyone says anything bad about the golden girls i swear to god i'll crawl through this internet connection, out your monitor, and kick your ass.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Those reviews don't seem to take into account that these characters are written to be selfish, annoying, irredemable.

Ha ha, 2-star review of Hedwig
This movie is definitely not for the faint-hearted. Main character John Cameron Mitchell goes into songs detailing his "angry inch." It could have been a good movie if it were more tastefully done, or with less singing, because 'Hedwig' is at heart, a musical.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

new rule: if you have not watched television for the last 10 years, you do not get to review television shows.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Every time I hear the Golden Girls mentioned I can't help but think of that movie Airheads -- "Naked pictures of Bea Arthur?!?!?" Also: "Bea Arthur... outstanding."

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

(kevin: i loved the golden girls, too.)

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Again, about Hedwig, from a reviewer in San Jose, CA

I am disappointed. Most of these type of movies (by that I mean foreign) are wonderful. This was just an annoyance. The animation was really juvenille. The only saving grace about this movie was the monologue. But that was coarse and strained at times as well.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a foreign movie, from a land called "New York City."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

From what glorious repository of popular opinion are you culling these gems?

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing against The Golden Girls. I haven't seen it in years, but I did find it pretty funny at the time. It's more just that GG and The Nanny seem like poor examples to use to contrast with AD. Like, if that's your idea of the pinnacle of comedy, then maybe AD just isn't really your style.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

These are from Netflix, but Amazon is great for this too. Actually, Amazon is easier because you can show only certain levels of ratings.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I will watch the hell out of GG, but like John said, how the hell are you going to compare AD and GG? It's like comparing apples with --oh I don't know--something completely unlike apples.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Aluminum siding.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Asian pears! No...

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I already tell you this story?

The other day I had a guy at my table who ordered the tuna sashimi. I told him it is accompanied by fried rice and veggies. He asked, "Why?" He wanted to know why it was served with fried rice. I told him he could leave off the rice and just have vegetables or could get white rice or mashed potatoes. He didn't want to make any changes, just wanted to know why it was served with fried rice. What kind of question is that? Especially when I'm running my ass off trying to keep my head above water?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"because that's how the chef wanted to serve it"

I hate people like that.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY MY DARK OVERLORD SATAN COMMANDS IT.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Satan demands mixed vegetables but NO SQUASH. It gives him the runs.

― dan m, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

dude, Kevin, I am so tickled by the fact that you love the Golden Girls. I mean, it's objectively the best TV show ever, but for some reason the idea of you watching it is adorable.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i love love LOVE bea arthur.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

and her character on golden girls SLAYS me. i wasn't a fan of really stupid rose or really slutty blache but bea arthur was always spot on.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Our chef rides the fine line between insanity and brilliance, and he decided to match the Japanese classic sashimi, with the unlikely side of rice.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

skirts, boots and teaching? ;_;
nagging about voting isn't out of character for me at all, IF YOU KNOW ME.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i have the gg's on RIGHT NOW.

i just watched part of the episode where dorothy disapproves of blanche's new bossy boyfriend and then he tries to grab her arm and she screams and blanche dumps the dude on the spot.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i am rewarding myself for a rough day with tacos, golden girls and catching up on this thread. only one of those things disappointed me. GUESS WHICH ONE.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

No one likes to be reduced to a few words. I know you are an enigma, but I remember skirts, boot, and teaching. Please not to break out of character.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I love slutty Blanche, I have to say. not as much as Bea Arthur, but a good deal.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost-- I can't imagine any of them being disappointing, unless Golden Girls was a clips episode.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Rose and what's her name--Bea Arthur's mother.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

try again

(i was sort of kidding. who am i to be disappointed in the internet?)

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Sophia! Estelle Getty ruled.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

1. I thought the Hatto fraud story was sad because dude did it to salvage the reputation of his cancer-wracked wife, hello.
2. Didn't the creator of Arrested Development work on Golden Girls for a long time?

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

remember when this used to be my gmail status indicator:

[Sophia enters kitchen]
Dorothy: You couldn't sleep either, huh?
Sophia: No, I'm sleeping so good I thought I'd come try it in the sink.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

also, i've decided to shave my head bald and will henceforth be applying pipecleaners to my skull in lieu of hair.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't the creator of Arrested Development work on Golden Girls for a long time?

OMG you're right, that's where Mitchell Hurwitz got his start. Maybe the comparison is not so outlandish, then.

only one of those things disappointed me. GUESS WHICH ONE.

I'm sorry I'm a stubborn idiot.

remember when this used to be my gmail status indicator:

Totally. The best thing about GG is Sophia's sarcastic retorts.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

1. I thought the Hatto fraud story was sad because dude did it to salvage the reputation of his cancer-wracked wife, hello.

That's his side of the story, but apparently he's been convicted of fraud before. The man's a charlatan, from what I understand, and the fact he's using his dying wife as his excuse is, like, 2000x more slimy.

OTOH, she was a willing participant, apparently, and was exacting some kind of revenge on the record industry that she was unable to break into? Something like that.

I do think it's funny that classical music aficionados got their leg piddled on.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

re GGs, I had no idea so many of you were secretly gay.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

It should be a movie starring Jim Broadbent and Judi Dench. INSTANT OSCAR.

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome xpost

― n/a, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Jesse is particularly secretive about it, and Kenan and I have both owned up to gayish tendencies. That only leaves Kevin.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

gay or got a hard-on for septugenarians?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It should be a movie starring Jim Broadbent and Judi Dench.

Agreed, but they should play it as farce, with Broadbent filled with as much avaricious glee as Max Bialystock.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, now who's the homo?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/nick.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What is this?

# [POLL closes: October 02] [Started by kenan, last updated 50 seconds ago] 4 new answers

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

[Removed Illegal Image]

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't even click on the thread.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

that's the idea.

― kenan, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

How does it have 12 new answers then?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to a free lunch thing today where we talked to labor and employment attorneys and I learned that I am doing everything right re: finding a job. So right, in fact, that I should actually have a job now. But I don't. Or even a lead on a job.

I am totally going to write "Jenny, Esq" on the paper tablecloths when I greet my tables at the Macaroni Grill.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

JOHN I will give you the secret link if you promise to complain more about the CTA.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy shit it smells like baked potatoes in here and I am one hungry individual.

Will somebody text Jeff and tell him to check his email? I left my phone at home and want to ride home with him.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

God, the train was SO late this morning? And so crowded! I am shaking my fist in anger and demanding that Frank Kruesi does something about this!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

That was very good! Except that I left about four minutes before you posted that. And then went to dinner.

Man, I ruined everything. John has lost all faith in the system now!

― Jenny, Thursday, 1 March 2007 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I just learned something. I'd always heard that Wicker Park was called Wicker Park because of something having to do with the furniture district there. I wondered a bit why there'd be some glut of wicker furniture in Chicago, but I never particularly thought it through. Now I'm enormously reassured to learn it got the name from a couple guys named Wicker. That makes a lot more sense.

― nabisco, Thursday, 1 March 2007 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

and here i thought it was because the entire neighborhood was purchased from Pier 1.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

SHUT UP I DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH

― nabisco, Thursday, 1 March 2007 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Thirsty Friday. I kind of may have a second date that night, and I'm wondering what it means that I'd rather go to Soundbar with you kids. I think I know what it means.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. Thundersnow is one of my favorite things about living up North. In Michigan we had lake effect snow with lightning and thunder, which is a treat; seeing the big wet flakes of snow light up is awesome.

I am not making up the term thundersnow, btw--I first heard it used on the weather forecast in MI.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

This morning Brenda leaps onto the bed carrying something in her mouth, which she lays down and starts playing with. It was a plastic fork. Then I get up and find another plastic fork in my bed, plus a soy sauce packet on the floor by the foot of the bed.

I ordered Chinese yesterday, but I thought I put all the soy sauce away and threw away the forks. I think this was a failed attempt at gaslighting me--"Why is this fork in my bed?" She probably also is responsible for that pint glass upright under the middle of the bed too.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

we used to get "thundersnow" in massachusetts too, usually late in the season when warm air would shoot up from the gulf and the montreal express would barrel into town at the same time. i loved it because winter always lost those battles. once there's thunder winter's days are numbered.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never experienced thundersnow. It makes me think of the Thundercats theme song.

― KitCat, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

It would be a good name for a cocaine-themed hard rock band.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

HI DERE

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway, i watched the gram parsons biography last weekend and if i ever think things are maybe a little out of control i can rest assured that things can always get a lot more out of control. but then again i've already outlived gp by 8 years. also, i did not know he was a trust funder. he had some awesome clothes, i'll tell you that.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Are there any good shows this weekend? I have been slacking on my New Year's resolution to go to more shows.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm, a salute to Silkworm at EB on Sat. night, but with a bunch of acts I've never heard of.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

saturday at sub-t busy signals/gito gito hustler/moto/river city tanlines. sunday at the bottle cococoma/reigning sound.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Thundersnow sounds like the next Nic Cage movie.

So no one's been to the House Theater?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

you guys check the featured picture on wikipedia today?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2c/Chicago_Skyline_Crop_Labeled_2560_ver2.jpg/800px-Chicago_Skyline_Crop_Labeled_2560_ver2.jpg

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"311 South Wacker" is my fave

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, Tom!

I wanna go to the Reigning S0und/C0c0c0c0c0c0c0c0c0c0 show!

― KitCat, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

tombot is there a way to bring back replacing images with a link? or will that verboten like the persistent cookies? cause that's one feature i really miss. that and the xpost notification.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

sarah, if you guys go you may either want to get their early or get tix before hand because i heard it will sell out. there will be tix at the door though.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i never knew what that building (311 s. wacker) was! it looks awesome at dusk when i get off the blue line at western/congress because the sky is a deep blue behind it and that top turret piece is milkglass or something and it's illuminated at night. it's pretty cool.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I like 311 S Wacker. I would never think to design a skyscraper that is pink and has a birthday cake on top. How festive!

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The Sat. Sub-T show sounds fun.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

it will be!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

tombot did you brake my invisiblo thread? who did that? WHY?

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

http://home.comcast.net/~thechampion//MOTO_03-03-2007.jpg

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to go.

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

didn't you get kicked in the face the last time you saw moto? and you'll be seeing the busy signals LATER THIS MONTH(!).

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

from someone whose musical tastes i respect: I got a sneak preview of some new Gito Gito Hustler material, and I think they might just kill everyone on Saturday.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, it was the Snipers who kicked me and I went to their show last weekend! I'm resilient like that.

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night I dreamed that I was making a lobster appetizer for a PTA meeting I was attending. I was putting raw lobster on skewers, but I had forgotten to kill the lobster first. I kept taking it apart, and it was making little noises. I felt terrible. Then I cracked open its carapace and killed it. All of this took place in the plants and flowers section of a grocery store.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, and i didn't realize gito gito hustler will be playing the radio heartbeat thing too! the last show of their tour is the first night of the fest.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never experienced thundersnow. It makes me think of the Thundercats theme song.

What about last night at around 3 AM? The thunder was weird-sounding, at least to my sleepy mind. It sounded like radio sound effects--like a sheet of metal being shaken.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i woke me up then the sleet or hail or whatever the fuck was going on out there started coming down and i kind of drifted in and out of sleep until my alarm clock went off. at which time i fell dead asleep.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i woke me up? it (the thunder) woke me up.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It woke me up just enough to think, "Hey, thunderstorm! Cool!" And then roll over and continue to sleep like the dead.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, I was just thinking of M.O.T.O. the other day when someone quoted that mid-90s dance hit "When I dip you dip we dip" because it always reminds me of M.O.T.O.'s "I do the dip when there's cum on the dancefloor."

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, it's totally March, isn't it? I think I might have a birthday party on Saturday the 24th. Save the date, etc.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It's TOTALLY March.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i just realized i have a birthday party to go to saturday. : (

i'll see if anyone else is skipping it to go to the show or maybe heading over after, i don't want to be the only dick who does.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

it's me mum's birthday. She's 53.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw, she was but a babe when she had you.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

indeed. 20 yrs old.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha, John said Kenan's mom is a babe.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Awkward.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Literally, a babe. There are pictures, right?

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

BLOOPER

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, he said she was a butta babe.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what that means, but it sounds dirty.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

she was a babe when she was 20.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

MY MOTHER IS DEAD.

can i still get the money if i fuck her?

kenan on Thursday, March 1, 2007 9:36 AM (23 minutes ago)

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have pics on me, but there's a great one with her in a sun dress and long, long, purty hair and posing with a white horse. It's awesome.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

john, that post belonged on ken c's disgusting thread. should have stayed there.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, john -- i got a job for ya. Go find an unfairly locked thread from days of yore and see if nu-code will let you post on it again.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Just for John: CTA prez Frank Kruesi rumored to be on the chopping block.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

if my calculations are correct, this should work just fine, and we can spend all day posting to threads that were previously deemed unworthy of more posting.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a temp job in 311 S. Wacker once. It was horrible, I quit after one day.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Kruesi is definitely out. He better damn well be. I think there will be vigilante justice if he's not.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Come to think of it, all my temp jobs were on Wacker Drive. 311 South, 28x South, and 111 East.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't actually care about Kruesi. I just wanted to read Kenan's secret thread.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I don't remember any locked threads.

Sorry I re-posted that post of yours, Kenan. It was too rich not to.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, I was just yanking your chain.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

it killed the thread, that's for sure.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I don't remember any locked threads.

*gasp*

YOU DON'T REMEMBER?

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

nevermind

they're still locked.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

but again, that would have been cool.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=31110

NEVER FORGET

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway I think keith fixed your unclickable thread yesterday, he's going to correct the lack of "no message/title/poll options/etc" errors at some point, yes at some point images may be replaced with links, yes at some point replacing images with links might become the default because of the logoff issue, yes at some point the logoff issue with the cookies might be fixed. but since not many people are as hot shit as keith and he already knows all the inner workings it pretty much depends on him and what he decides to implement when.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

[image="http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=03012007"]

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=02282007

stupid ending image tag

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=03012007

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my god, Kenan, that post made me laff at the ee ee oh sea.

― Jenny, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Equal Employment Opportunity Commission?

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

if I had friends who knew and loved me, someone would get the roast beef chart for me.

i'll probably just die in a grease fire instead.

/beef

― en i see kay, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i have printed the roast beef chart, and will display it over my desk.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

but nobody will get it.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

CHILX ALL STAR JAM

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY BROS: So I had this idea that next weekend, while Sarah is out of town, I would work on a giant 10-15 minute long song, and get my friends to contribute various parts to it, including you guys. Now there is talk of a new ILX compilation. Would anyone be interested in working on an all-star CHILX collabo song for the ILX comp? It wouldn't really have to be good or anything. Just fun.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan beat me to it.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It could be like "We are the world." Or even a cover of "We are the world."

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Or "(What's So Funny 'bout) Beef, Love and Understanding."

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, this dude in my office is simply astonishing. He tells the most long-winded, boring-ass stories you can imagine. They're not even stories. One of his favorite things to do is to recount the entire plot of a TV show he saw one time. I am not even kidding. These tales could go on for 10 minutes or more. But here's the amazing thing: he doesn't notice that you're bored. You can sigh, or not make eye contact, or whatever you usually do to subtly express a lack of interest, and he doesn't get it. I crack jokes about it sometimes, like, "Oh, but I bet we're going to hear all about it, aren't we!" Like, hey, all in good fun, but srsly dude, shut up. He doesn't get that, either. He tells the story anyway. I know more about what happened on Desperate Housewives over the last month than I ever cared to. If I cared, I WOULD HAVE WATCHED THE FUCKING SHOW. I am now leaning toward hostility when he gets started. I just outright ignore him. Outright. And sometimes I say, "I'm sorry, I wasn't listening." And he's all like, "That's ok. So what I was saying was..." A minute ago I walked out of the room, just rudely walked out without a word. And when I came back, HE PICKED UP WHERE HE LEFT OFF. IT IS ASTONISHING, I TELL YOU.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah sure, I'm in.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

We could finally record "Manpile."

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, don't bait the dumb. It's cruel.

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Love plus avoidance is a better way.

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm the victim here.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I am totally in. Nick, are you thinking of recording at your place or piecing together parts recorded elsewhere?

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to be on a chilx song, yes.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course I'm in.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

if it's in a or d i'll play or if i can borrow a bass which i've never played before i'll figure something out. and it certainly wouldn't be any worse than my guitar playing.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

unrelated but yesterday i thought the t-shirt i'd worn for two days in a row was stinky but i was wrong, IT'S MY HOODIE THAT SMELLS. i need to wash this, pronto.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

did i srsly just tell a long boring story about a guy who tells long boring stories?

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

My first idea is that maybe next weekend, the instrumentalists get together at my practice place and we work out something simple and record it. Then we figure out some words and a time and place where everyone who wants to can assemble and chant the vocals gang-stylee. But Jordan, if you want to be involved you can email me something and I'll collage it in somehow.
I imagine Dan = drums, John = keys, me = guitar, Kevin and/or Sarah = bass, everyone = vocals, but I think everyone should be able to do what they want.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

THE ROD TORKLESON GUITAR ARMADA FEATURING HERMAN MENDENCHUK.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i think we need some precussion and go-go dancers. i volunteer for both if no one steps up.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i will play spoons.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Eh, I think it would probably be too difficult to work in sequenced beats, I'll leave the drums to Dan.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/Spoonman.jpg/225px-Spoonman.jpg

remember this timeless classic? where chris cornell TOTALLY WAILED and to' shit up singing about that awesome, awesome dude who plays the spoons?

hell yeah. I am so the spoonman.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

DUAL DRUMMERS

(I don't know if I'm good enough for that)

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man xpost

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a 29 piece set

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only got 4. 8 if you count cymbals.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I'm trying to remember: Did he have 29 actual drums or did he count cymbals too? At any rate: ridiculous. I played on a double bass, 6 toms, dozen or so cymbal set before and it was just out of hand.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.mezzanota.it/55.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

http://pascal.mathelon.free.fr/photos/npeart.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I was singing "Spoonman" in bed the other day.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Although if I feel like coming to Chicago and hanging out I could play various percussion/drums/whatever.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I was singing "Spoonman" in bed the other day.

uh...
dipped in butter?

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ALL STAR JAM BAND.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://home.comcast.net/~leepake/wsb/media/251776/site1060.jpg

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan - you can probably just use Ben's set, if you don't mind using a kind of tiny drum set.
Jordan - it doesn't matter, it's going to sound like chaos. I don't mean you trying to record something that matches up. Just something crazy we can splice in at some point.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, I don't really feel like lugging mine anywhere just for a day, anyway.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Thread killed by ambition

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

ambition killed ceaser too.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

look waht it did to dr. frankenstein.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Caeser had a giant photo of the Allman Brothers, too.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, mystery solved

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

favorite vandalism of the day: there's a white panel truck parked on the west side of western, just south of division, on it someone spray painted "ARREST DALEY" but on two separate lines leaving enough room for someone to scrawl "TYNE" before daley's name.

it made me giggle then it made me think of cagney & lacey so i guess that's a : \

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

hay guys

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

sup

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.tonicnews.com/go/pictures/d/2147-3/flying-kitty.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

ha

Kitka got into a tail-chasing fit last night. Going in circles, trying to get at it between her legs, doing somersaults, etc. Girl is crazy.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and I finished Undeclared. As blonde Apatow girls go, Busy Phillips >>> Monica Keena.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Monica Keena is blonde? You watched the whole series? I thought you just started it the other day...?

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess she is kind of blonde...

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm. Submarine Races open for Love of Diagrams at Schuba's tomorrow. But also, Soundbar. I am scared of Soundbar.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I am scared of Soundbar, too!

I'm having dinner at 7 PM tomorrow night at Thai Aroma, near the Sheridan Red Line stop. I guess I'll probably just go back downtown afterwards, hopefully with enough time to capitalize on the free drinks.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is definitely going to Soundbar? I might be too chicken.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

if i don't go to milwaukee tomorrow i will definitely go to soundbar and 80% probably go to schubas.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

She's blonde enough. I think I started the series on Monday and there's only about six hours of show in the boxset.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

don't be frightened of soundbar! IT'S AN OPEN BAR FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!! OPEN BAR!!!! the clientele will probably be somewhat scarey but not in an quaking-in-my-boots kind of way.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, you know, I tend to watch TV shows on DVD late at night and so I rarely watch more than an hour at a time.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

DON'T GO TO SOUNDBAR YOU GONNA GET RAPED

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ reviews of Soundbar...

ohhhhhh NO NO NO NO NO capital N capital O

this place freaks me the fuck out. First off, you have to pay twenty dollars for the honor and privilege of even walking through the door. This I did not do. I don't do that. I also don't do bars that have VIP anything. This drives me INSANE. the whole dance club thing drives me INSANE. Since when is going out an having fun a competition?

Everyone in here is dancing (dry sex) and clad in designer clothes purchased half off at filene's basement and trying to lure you into their vip table section with bottles of vodka.

dont even bother trying to use the bathroom. someone's doing coke in it.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

What's so scary about the Soundbar? Oh, okay, I googled it and they have a photo album.

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, if I'm not working on music, my main weeknight activity as a single dude is watching dvds.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

However, the bit about the bathrooms being unavailable due to illegal drug use is true of so many places, it's really hard to choose one to blame.

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

doesn't anyone have any pioneer spirit anymore?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I find Soundbar scary but I am not afraid of it, if that makes sense. I look at it like an anthropological expedidion with lots of booze and slutty people.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

people will wonder how the fuck we got in, and that's pretty cool.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't wait to see EZ tempting us with a bottle of vodka from teh VIP section.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

exactly dan, well put. so is it going to be me, dan, and eazy? christ, what a sausage party. BRING SOME TALC, WE'RE GONNA GET THE MEATSWEATS.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

and kenan. goddamn lack of xpost notificaiton.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

bring some coke and it won't be a sausage party anymore

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

WATERFALLS

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG WHAT AM I GONNA WEAR

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah and I might or might not come.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

But I don't understand what we're supposed to say to get in: "YES HELLO I AM WITH THE ERIC Z13GENHAGEN PARTY I BELIEVE YOU ARE EXPECTING US"

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I said I was going to be there. At least I'm planning on it.

Also HORSESHOE.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Or just whisper "Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiegenhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagen."

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you just say "I'm on the VIP list. Ziggy's the name."

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly, Nick.

designer clothes purchased half off at filene's basement

That's me! Though I do 60% clearance off the original 50% off.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently anyone in my party will get a wristband that indicates FREE DRINKS TIL 10:30 at any of the bars in the establishment.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I own one pair of pants that aren't jeans or corduroys. I maybe, MAYBE still have some terrible slacks left from my last "business casual" job.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

And I'm bringing a few honeys.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait, I guess I have my WEDDING SUIT.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

May I ask (if you don't mind) how you ended up on the list of this booty dance club? Or is that better discussed around the table tomorrow night?

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Powder-blue tux?

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm wearing hot-pants, was there a mention of that in the dress code? will my beanie, satin halter, hot-pants and roller-disco skates be ok? i'm going for a venice beach/elton john circa '78 kind of thing.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate fancy clothes. :(

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

AND MEDALLIONS, I WILL BE WEARING LOTS OF MEDALIONS.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i may shave my head in the classic male pattern baldness shape for this.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Have any of you guys (Kevin) heard of the Reptoids?

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

DO IT. Especially if you're still rockin' the 'stache.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

The Reptoids practice, or used to practice, in the same building where we practice. Their fliers are very bland and ubiquitous in our neighborhood. I have not heard them. But they seem like they might be cool.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the reptoids are a local hard rock band. and flyering machines but their flyers are always the same so i never know if it's a new show or a show that happened 2 months ago.

dan- stache went away a week ago ;_;

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Thx. The 0ptimistic is playing a show with them tomorrow night.

+ the show got a nice write up in the Onion

- the show is in the basement of a pizza place

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

+++ the show is in the basement of a pizza place!

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

duh

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I will be sure to dress like Corin from Nashville Pussy.

― KitCat, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish pizza places were the default rock show venue instead of bars.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd rather come home smelling like tomato sauce and grease than shitty beer and cigarettes.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I mentioned our Soudbar expedition to my roomie, who said his boss had gone off on the place when she went there (under similar circumstances to our own):

"it's like bad mix of cocaine, calvin klein, and sad old man desperately clinging to their 20s"

AWESOME

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

No mention of "no jeans" on the soundbar page so I think I am in the clear.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish in order to have an entertainment license you also had to have a pizza license. can't have one w/o the other. that would be awesome.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Good point Nick, but I'm trying to keep my expectations low because if I don't get free pizza I will be crushed. :(

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. The only decent pairs of slacks/dress pants that I have are in dire need of dry cleaning and there isn't time.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I'M ACTUALLY HOPING I DON'T GO TO MILWAUKEE NOW.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost to Nick)

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

If you do get free pizza you should replace all your cymbals with pizza pies.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

A few years ago I was in Gr@mmaphone Records and talked to a friendly gal who works there and is a DJ and invited me to kind of an end-of-summer industry night where she was 'sprinning' -- the promoter rented out this sports bar in one of those big ugly office buildings near Ogden/Ashland, and a bunch of DJs were doing there thing and there were brats and beer, and everyone I talked to was friendly and down-to-earth, maybe because they're DJs and not the clientele.

Flash-foward a year or two later, and see that she's DJ-ing at Soundbar and that if you sign up for the club's mailing list admission was free. So I signed up, and I get these promo e-mails that I scan and delete, and then earlier this week I got one saying that the first 20 people to reply get a VIP package worth $500. So I say what the hey, reply, a guy from the club calls, and it's set up.

The one other time I saw that DJ do her job was upstairs at Schubas last fall - and somehow there was free beer there. I'm thinking What's the catch, and the only catch is that someone wants to promote something by giving away free beer.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

and play drums with your face

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

worst sounding hi hat ever.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

what if you use frozen pizza?

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the catch, and the only catch is that someone wants to promote something by giving away free beer.

the only thing they will be promoting to me is that they are giving away free beer.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I can play and eat pizza at the same time, do not doubt me.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, my roomie's on the ball, I would invite him along but he'll never ever come...

chach3e: man, you have to bring a camera and make a slide show, dr. martin style
chach3e: like you're visiting a secluded tribe in Papua New Guinea

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

nick's onto something jordan, thing how much better tearing down will be.

ewwww, but then there's a whole new meaning to "loading out".

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Breadsticks >>> drumsticks

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw a photo of a bunch of dudes outside of Soundbar, and they were all wearing jeans. Fancy jeans, maybe, but jeans.

I just hope the dress code doesn't exempt styes, because I've still got an ugly little one on my left eyelid.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there a dress code for outside of Soundbar?

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

yep.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

What time are you guys getting there? I REALLY don't want to be the first one.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

If I had a really fancy club, I would say there's a dress code but I wouldn't say what it was, and then when people asked me what the dress code was, I'd look really confused and say, "I can't tell you ... it's a code."

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

And if it is somehow unbearable, we can always go over to the Green Door Tavern and pay for drinks.

I'm planning to get there right around 9. Would Thai food beforehand make sense? That place at...LaSalle and Chicago?

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

And Lindsay and Geoff (who were at the last TTs) are going, as well as Sarah G. (who's been at the house parties here and such) and I think Rachel J. of the K-Zoo mafia.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it sounds fun to get food first. Then we can arrive en masse.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

WE ROLL HARD, WE ROLL DEEP. CHILX WHAT

Did anyone tell Deej about this? Having never met him I'm not sure, but this kind of sounds like something he'd be into, mabye?

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

man, all you gotta do is say "free drinks" and suddenly we got a fuggin army

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it sounds fun to get food first. Then we can arrive en masse.

after looking at the pictures this sounds like a good idea because those photos may have counteracted the lure of free booze.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

We could meet up at Panang - 800 N. Clark - maybe 7:45?

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anyone tell Deej about this? Having never met him I'm not sure, but this kind of sounds like something he'd be into, mabye?

Good idea, I'll e-mail him.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, getting Thai food with you people makes a whole lot more sense than going all the way up to Uptown for it first.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm tempted to faux-hawk myself and dress as bro-tastic as possible to see how well I can blend in. Wait, what am I saying.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

ooooh good idea dan! FAKE TANS FOR EVERYONE!!!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I probably am going to get a haircut tomorrow, but I was planning to anyways.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

will there be a paler group than us?

COULD THERE BE a paler group than us?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

We all need fake business cards.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to listen to some Lifter Puller to psych myself up for this.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be Eric Piven (yo, my brother Jeremy told me to check out this place), and I'm just chilling here with Nick Schwimmer. Our bros are tight.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

remember the fake atm receipts? so when some bro is in a club and wants to give a girl his number he pulls out the fakie with some inflated balance on it and writes it on the back knowing full well she'll turn it over and see what he's got in the bank?

those were both awesome and sad.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently, orange is the preferred color there. I'll be sure to eat lots of carrots tomorrow.

― KitCat, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha.

― n/a, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a job over winter break of my sophomore year of college, in which I had access to a lamination machine, so naturally I made up business-style name-tags for all of my suitemates, as though our dorm room ("Crissey 6") was a corporation.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard of those, Kevin - fantastic.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

It's been a long week at the office and it's time to blow off a little steam! I am a Junior Vice President! I have business cards that say "Junior Vice President" on them! They're glossy and magnificent! Here! Have one! Take it!

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

it was the go go '90s, a different era when any given schmuck COULD actually have a ton of bank.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking now I'd look slightly more natural in a Romy & Michelle outfit than a Corin outfit...

― KitCat, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I STILL HAVE BUISNESS CARDS WITH MY VP TITLE ON THEM!!!!

holy fuck i'm totally digging those up.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard a rumor about that...

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(btw, deej sez he'll try to make it.)

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

What where you VP of, Kevin? Rock n' booze?

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Kr's flight to Tupelo (via Memphis) was just cancelled. She's now on a 6 AM flight tomorrow morning. SUCKS.

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

vp of r&d.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

vp of yer mom

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

My card just says "web designer" but that's no good. It may as well say "dude who thinks he's pretty special but is kind of a dime a dozen and his job is pretty boring and he mostly posts on an internet message board all day." Not exactly going to dampen any undies.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

My card says "drums".

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

this was the only press release i could find with me on it and it has a different title:

Release date: July 24, 2000

Quantum Solid State Disk Joins Forces with RAID™'s Cobra 3 Enterprise
To Expedite Front End System Performance

Milpitas, CA Quantum Corporation (NMS:QNTM), the leader in high-performance solid state disk (SSD) storage solutions for the NT and UNIX server marketplace, announced today that its SSD technology has been integrated with the RAID™ Cobra3 Enterprise product line. The united result is a resilient data storage system with significant amounts of cache memory, which dramatically improves system performance within e-commerce and high transaction infrastructures.

Quantum's SSD is made from computer memory (dynamic RAM), which delivers instantaneous information at > 9,000 transactions per second. The Cobra3 Enterprise is a direct connect, high availability, high performance disk array that provides superior performance and connectivity suited for mission critical network and storage environments.

Quantum's SSD has been integrated into the Cobra3 Enterprise as a front-end caching device for hotfiles and databases. With the addition of Quantum's SSD, the Cobra3 Enterprise configuration will now offer more than thirty times its previous capacity, increasing it from 1 GB to 32 GB.

According to Charlie Cassidy, Quantum's vice president of the Solid Sate Business Unit, "In today's competitive marketplace, our SSD delivers the system performance boost demanded by e-Business applications. The partnership with RAID™'s Cobra3 Enterprise is a unique opportunity to leverage the strength of two complementary technologies to provide a faster performance solution." Quantum's SSD adds significant amounts of cache memory to Cobra3 Enterprise's existing configuration, which facilitates increased application performance.

Kevin Rys, RAID™'s Chief Technology Officer said, "Cobra3 Enterprise's high storage density coupled with the accelerated response time provided by Quantum's SSD will afford users of the Cobra3 Enterprise a solid competitive advantage. Our target markets of this product line are the most demanding transactional environments, including the financial and e-commerce industries where high volume transactions and storage solutions are critical."

The RAID™ Cobra3 Enterprise with Intellicache has been shipping since June.

About RAID Incorporated

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About Quantum

Founded in 1980, Quantum Corporation - http://web.archive.org/web/20041214103927/http://www.quantum.com/ - is the world's leading storage supplier in six of the seven markets it serves: desktop hard disk drives, tape drives, network attached storage (NAS) appliances, solid state systems and hard disk drives for the emerging personal video recorder (PVR) market and DLT tape automation systems. Quantum is also a leading supplier of high-end hard disk drives. In 1999 Quantum became the first Silicon Valley company to issue tracking stock, replacing its existing common stock with the ticker symbols DSS and HDD, which tracks the separate performance of the company¹s DLT and Storage Systems and Hard Disk Drive businesses. Both stocks are traded on the New York Stock Exchange. Selling its products through OEM and distribution channels worldwide, sales for the fiscal year ending March 2000 were $1.4 billion for Quantum¹s DLT and Storage Systems Group and $3.3 billion for Quantum¹s Hard Disk Drive Group.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

note: i never uttered a word for this and in fact was in texas when this deal went down. we'd usually have whomever we were jumping into bed with (quantum in this case) write the press release themselves then attribute quotes later.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"Cobra3 Enterprise's high storage density coupled with the accelerated response time provided by Quantum's SSD will afford users of the Cobra3 Enterprise a solid competitive advantage. Our target markets of this product line are the most demanding transactional environments, including the financial and e-commerce industries where high volume transactions and storage solutions are critical."

They really captured your voice and rhythms in that quote.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

That's too bad because I was picturing you in a board room saying that while pointing at charts and graphs with a laser pointer.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That PR firm doesn't like commas or compound-modifer hyphens, do they?

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i had an office overlooking a river where there were red tail hawks, perigrin falcons, and a bald eagle all fed. there were egrets and ducks and geese and a family of herons. i just went back to the website and they moved to the technology section of the business park where my optomotrist and primary care physician used to have offices.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

You were so official!

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

this was where my office was: the building along the river, not along the roadway. in the summer we'd go up onto the roof and drink beer, it was on a hill and you could see most of the valley from there.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

gmail has been down for me all day. Any body else getting this? gmail error code 766

― Jeff, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i've been in all day and got my last email 16 minutes ago.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

it wasn't working for one of my students, but has been ok for dan and me.

ps: hi

― La Lechera, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Note: I want to go to a yarn store. The end.

Also, you people are making going to a horrible place like that place where you are going actually sound like fun. I still don't think I have the emotional stamina for it.

― Jenny, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I got that Gmail error message last night, when our house network was super stressed due to massive downloading. I waited a while and it went away.

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

gmail, chicago thread both down for the count, there were no survivors.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

mommy, where do threads go when they die?

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

hey dudes, dan's friend wrote this book. it's about office workers. you might enjoy it.
http://www.thenwecametotheend.com/

― La Lechera, Thursday, 1 March 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

ps when threads die it's usually my fault. i have that effect. enviable, i know.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Gahrrrrr. I think I'm going to "break up" with my one date man. I know for sure he's not The One, and while it wouldn't be bad to date someone for a while--including fun dates to Mexico-- he is all kinds of pestering me. The real motivating factor in all this that I want to go out on Friday night, and he wants to go out with me.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, Jesse, it seems like kind of a waste of time if you'd already rather be hanging out with other people instead of him.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Today I reached in the fridge and had to make a choice: Diet Coke or beer? I absolutely NEVER drink in the afternoon, so I chose the beer, and am pleased, especially considering the shitty fucking weather I slogged through--my underwear is even wet.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, we are the publisher for that!! Hurrah.

― Laurel, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Loobness, I agree. I'm sure that there is soooome element of my being pretty shy and afraid to get to know someone in this sort of setting, but I'm sure that it's not just that, and not *mostly* that.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Probably better to do it sooner rather than after a Mexican love voyage, that's what I always say.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

If it was someone I really was into, his behavior I would not calling "pestering" at all. I would be quite pleased with the frequency of his calls, actually.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

are you shy? that's so cute!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish sometimes I could just go ahead and be really shallow and date somebody for the promise of travel and pretty baubles!

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

No, he's not.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Some might call it shy, others might think of it more as "emotionally unavailable" or "socially retarded."

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

emotionally unavailable I totally get. who isn't emotionally unavailable? the smart money is on being emotionally unavailable.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

No, he's not.

Shy? Or cute?

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Shy

(but I'm just messing, I'm shy too)

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I realized the other night that, as a Minnesotan, I'm always going to be emotionally unavailable compared to, you know, hotheads.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I am kind of enjoying this website [url=http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/]http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/[/url]. Sometimes it delves slightly into the "men are from mars, women are from venus, never the twain shall meet" territory, but overall I have been amused.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK. I just KEEP forgetting! http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I am emotionally out to lunch.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

If you had met me circa 1999 you wouldn't know me at all. Courtney is the only person who knows me now who knew me then (except Brian), but she could tell you--I was saucer-eyed, apologetic, and very, very quiet.

Paxil fixed EVERYTHING so that you all get the pleasure of Jesse 2.0.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

jesse, have you read the things...about novel? it's pretty good. his next one (a certain chemistry [i think]) i liked even better.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I would not call someone who routinely grabs my crotch on the el "shy."

― jaymc, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

the dude who wrote that "things my girlfriend and I argue about" site is funny and everything, but he doesn't have a leg to stand on with the supposed distinction between "those trousers make you look fat" and "you're fat and disgusting."

― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I stumbled into the middle of a hornet's nest of a love triangle at work. Marie, a from girl who has been sick joked that she was pregnant. She was sitting next to a guy named Tyler who used to date Marie's best friend, and I said, "Oh, maybe it's Tyler's baby." I said it because I thought it was the most absurdly impossible thing I could say. Now Tyler and Marie are not speaking to me, and Marie confessed to her best friend that she and Tyler have sort of been seeing each other. The friendship is on hiatus.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone read "Fatherland" by Robert Harris? I bought it over lunch because the work book club is reading it, but I'm not that excited by it. "Waht if Hitler won WWII?!" is the most cliched alt-history premise ever.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Tyla the playa.

― Eazy, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I have emotionally gone fishin'.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse lives in a sitcom.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost- I have never read anything else by this man. I L'ed my A O when I read the thing about what he found in the shower. Ctrl+F "shower" on that page if you are interested.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Tyla the playa.

That's kind of funny because Tyler likes to act all street despite being a white boy from Iowa (a co-worker calls him "Hitler's wet dream"). We were make fun of him for this, and his nickname is "Popcorn." As in "pop a cap in your ass" and he's from the corn fields.

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I would not call someone who routinely grabs my crotch on the el "shy."

I'm compensating, protecting myself emotionally, maybe!

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus, how can I resist that crotch of yours!

― Jesse, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse is emotionally in John's pants.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I am emotionally asleep at my desk.

― kenan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I am emotionally full of gumbo.

― Jordan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I realized the other night that, as a Minnesotan, I'm always going to be emotionally unavailable compared to, you know, hotheads.

Ah, Minnesotans, it's so true. The one girl I dated from Minnesota would reference this same phenomenon. Hey, that's probably why we never went anywhere! I think this applies to Yoopers too.

EZ, out of sheer curiosity, where in MN are you from?

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I am wearing my new RGP contact lenses! It's a little weird because I only ever had soft contacts before, but it's oh so clear and I think I'll be able to get used to it. Now if I could only get rid of the purple rings around my eyes...

― dan m, Thursday, 1 March 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Grew up in Burnsville - family came from Moorhead and Worthington and a few small towns.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

This American Life is funny!

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I bridge the gap between EZ and Dan M. I am a former Minnesotan (Deer River, in Itasca County, headwaters of the Mississippi River, near Grand Rapids, MN, birthplace of Judy Garland) and Michigander (Near Charlevoix, MI, summer residence of the (Jon Benet) Ramsey family), as well as Montanan.

Other famous Montanans:
Dana Carvey, Missoula
Gary Cooper, Helena
Evel Knievel daredevil motorcyclist, Butte
David Lynch, Missoula
Martha Raye, Butte

I lived 90 miles north of Missoula and 65 miles south of Kalispell, the town where Michelle Williams and L. Ron Hubbard grew up.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This American Life at the Chicago Theatre was awesome for a number of reasons. Foremost is the production itself: it was fully a stage show, offshoot of the radio show, and of course advertisement for the TV series, making me want to subscribe to Showtime to watch this show (it's on Showtime, right?).

The other reason I liked it was the fact that Jenny, Jeff, Courtney and had fun seats. While they weren't close enough for me to catch every facial nuance of Ira Glass and Dan Savage, we got our own box seat (impossible--completely impossible to find!) with four chairs for the top price of balcony seats. Plus, we got cocktail service and easy, unobtrusive-to-others access to the restrooms.

Plus we did the civilized thing that makes us behave savagely: Cocktails. Before and after. Good fun.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 06:51 (seventeen years ago) link

fracking hell. That sucker got me drunk.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Was David Rakoff there, too?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

me and a friend were the first two people in the bar last night and the last two to leave. unsurprisingly i have a headache this morning.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Reuters should maybe fix this typo:

Bush crashes in Atlanta, 6 dead, 29 injured - Reuters AlertNet

http://www.alrdesign.com/blog/uploaded_images/robot1-705603.jpg

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

You people. I'm so emotionally available, sometimes I think my heart lives OUTSIDE my body. Circulation is a bitch.

― Laurel, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

David Rakoff was there and he made me LOL a lot. He talked about TV. I also decided that Ira Glass is a cross between John, Kenan, and Eric.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, I have spent several hours on the Things my gf and I have argued about site in the past. I keep forgetting to look for that book at the library!

Amanda, I received a Daily Candy email about Dan's friend's book last week and thought it looked up my alley!

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, have any of you fancy pantses ever eaten at Everest? I have been instructed to find an "extravagant" restaurant for an after-graduation dinner and that looks preeeeeety extravagant without being all irritating in that "molecular gastronomy but not actually, you know, food" way.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a fucking flat tire on the way to work. This is one of the tires I just paid for LAST MONTH. Fuck.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a giant ~~pit of despair~~ pothole and I hit it at no more than 25 mph, pop.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

NOOO! I'm sorry, Jordan. That's horrible.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

http://pictures.spacebar.org/images/ira-glass-feb2006/ira-glass-smile-thumb.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess the manly thing would be to change the tire, but if I even have a spare it's buried beneath lots of drum gear and it's snowing out. I think I'm going to call AAA and get towed to a tire place.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Bummer, Jordan!

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, shitsville.

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

my dog used to have a fleece-y bed type of thing that he would never use, i totally want on that would accomodate someone slightly over 6 feet tall to put under my desk for days like this.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I would have felt ripped off if I had paid for AAA and never used it this winter.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yay! my ping pong shoes are in the mail!!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Special sports shoes for playing ping pong?

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

that's the story i'm making up, yes.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi guys. I am at home on my futon again.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate you.

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Say hi to Toons and Luce.

I'm going to do a teeny tiny bit of work and get something hot to drink.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm, I just got a second cup of coffee. Pepper keeps coming in here and going to sleep on my chest while I work.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Oddly, that was an xpost, though it addresses both points made in Sarah's post.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

you guys should totally get married.

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Could Ira Glass look more like a milquetoast?

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Or maybe, look like more of a milquetoast.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

MMMMM...milquetoast.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh look, I was anonymously dissed on craigslist too. This is the best morning ever.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you sure it was about you, J?

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Jordan, here's an ego boost, maybe: Courtney's sister is an immediate HUGE fan of Digdown. As soon as she got back to NY she ordered a CD and listens to is a lot, and plans to order more.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretty sure. I'm sure I wouldn't mind if I wasn't already hyped up from my car troubles.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

You wouldn't mind?

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

That's pretty cool, Jesse, thx.

Have any of you guys heard The Dr4stics? Apparently they're a Chicago band who does a live dub thing, and they're playing up here soon. Looks good on paper, but bad "dub/afro-beat/hip-hop" bands are REALLY bad.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you sure it was about you, J?

Based on the evidence, it's pretty damning.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I also decided that Ira Glass is a cross between John, Kenan, and Eric.

I want Kelsey to show up and respond to this.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

What kind of lame-ass disses people on the internet?

Oh, wait...

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I think we all know who the real loser is in this scenario.

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, so the club is near Ontario/Franklin - is walking from Chicago/Clark OK, or should we pick somewhere closer to the club to eat? Any ideas? Anyone eaten at Singha?

The two touchstones for the post-sensitive man are Ira Glass and Lyle Lovett, and Jordan, John, and I combine them in different ways.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

and Kenan, of course.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

(and all the homiez)

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: post-sensitive v. sensitive post

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Those aren't the only two, surely?

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, nobody tried to call me at midnight last night, did they?

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

<i>cool layout. I'm done after that. If you're ready for sensory overload, this is your place. I'm not just talking about the music and lights. I'm talking about clientele. How many patterns can one guy possibly wear? I recomend the folks at the Guiness Book of World Records to check the guys out here. I dont think you're allowed in unless you have a wife beater peeping out of your shirt. The women are attractive though. But I still prefer a girl who's a little more classic looking</i>

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone eaten at Singha?

Yeah, I work a block away from there. It's OK, but I'm not sure it's any closer to Sound Bar. I'm fine with Panang, but if you wanted super-close, there's Kan Zaman (Middle Eastern) at Ontario and Wells.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I love that all these reviews just repeatedly reference how disturbing the clientle is. I'm looking more and more forward to this.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Today's MySpace band request is from...

[Band] is an international pop-rock electro band that was formed in the mid 90s during a break in a BLUES TRAVELLERS concert at the American University of Paris.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm here, John. You want me to respond to who Ira reminds me of? I think moreso than Eric & Kenan, he reminds me of you, dude. Maybe a sprinkle of Eric, but not so much Kenan.

Jenny: did you go to the live show? I wondered if they would make it out of Minneapolis alive. I saw the show here on Wednesday & loved it. I thought Rakoff was hilarious! I am also feeling confident about the tv show...something I was really uncertain about for a while.

Ira has lost a ton of weight. When I worked there he was on this self-imposed "one fried egg sandwich will be good enough for breakfast AND lunch" diet.

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep getting wrong number phone calls at my desk for some caterer who's trying to deliver food to one of the other Journal offices. I don't know their number, so I gave him the University switchboard operator number. If he calls back again, I'm taking delivery of the food and having lunch for a week.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I got my first text message spam yesterday. Someone with horrible texting skillz asked me to come to jesus.

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds a little...dirty.

― Laurel, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I enjoyed the show as well. I only heckled a little.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Kels, do you still have the audio thing we recorded at the TAL studio? "No no, it was poignant!"

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, we saw the live show! IG said they weren't sure they were going to make it to the theater, but they did and it was very entertaining. He reminds me of Kenan in his inflection and some phrasing. There were a couple of things he said that could have been Kenan. It was kind of eerie.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, but is he kenanish?

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

John, are you talking about the one with Kelsey listening to a tape of herself as a kid? I love that piece so much.

So - re: tonight - let's stick with Thai at Panang (corner of Clark/Chicago) around 7:45-8 and then heading up from there (apologies to 'shoe and Sarah if they have bad shoes for walking).

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

John, I still have it! Of course!

Thanks, EZ. That's very sweet of you. I've been having "a time of things" lately, your comment is sweeter than you could know.

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that piece, EZ.

I'm down with Panang. What should I do in River North for the hour between work and dinner?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i am going to milwaukee tonight so someone please please PLEASE bring a camera or at least a camera phone.

also, i don't want to die in a van accident on a snowy wisconsin highway.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

(I want a copy.)

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

john, did you ever get that thing i mailed you?

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I think my tall black boots will gain me entry into de Club as well as be good for walking in the snow.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

My slutwear... not so much.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Kelsey, Did you see the Top Model premiere this week?

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Kelsey, the fun polyamorous folks you met last summer in Mpls are throwing Mardi Gras party on Saturday night. I'll send 'em your e-mail address.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

john, did you ever get that thing i mailed you?

Yes, I did! Thank you so much! I haven't had a chance to use it yet, though. I also need a 1/8" cord (is this what you called a "mini-plug"?) I have a 1/4"-to-1/8" adaptor that I can plug into the keyboard, and then the 1/8" cord would go into your gadget, I'm guessing.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually saw some of ANTM, while eating baked eggplant and goat cheese before L O S T.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't watched top model in Minnesota save for that time when Katie brought a VHS copy of a couple of episodes for me! We don't get the station in on our tv set...I am super bummed!! I was hoping for some remote-watching together. Alas, I am sad. Was it good?

Eric: thanks!! I actually have plans on Saturday, though. For once!! I got a bunch of folks from work & a couple of misc. friends to head over to St. Paul to watch the MN roller derby bout! I'm excited!!

And J: yeah, the mini plug is the 1/8" thing. Yup. Glad you got it...I've had bad luck mailing things to Brooke & so I wasn't sure whether it made it to you or not!

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Tire update: I have a spare, it's on the car, so I was able to drive to the tire place and just drop off the old wheel for them to fix. The new tire will be free, but the rim is bent to shit and I'll bet I'll have to buy a new one, who knows how much that is.

When I worked there he was on this self-imposed "one fried egg sandwich will be good enough for breakfast AND lunch" diet.

That sounds like a horrible idea for a diet.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I told him as much as well. I mean, seriously?!

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

how was the baked eggplant & goat cheese? that sounds kinda awesome, john.

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe I have not told you this! They put ads on the side of our apartment building, such as a giant glass of Stella, and our current ad is a HUGE ANTM ad featuring all the contestants and Tyra standing in a jungle. I think of you every time I see it, Kelsey.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

oooh! I am so jealous! and so honored that you think of me! too bad there wasn't some way to pose with the ad so it would look like you were a contestant. you could charge admission for that kind of thing.

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It was awesome. Although Kr is the one who made it, courtesy the Deborah Madison cookbook. You just cut an eggplant into thin slices, salt them, drizzle oil, etc. Then bake 'em in the oven for a little while. Then you smear goat cheese all over the slices, put 'em back in the oven for like a minute, just so it melts. And then we served with marinara sauce, like regular store-bought Ragu or whatever but tricked out with extra garlic and a bay leaf and I forget what else she put in there.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I only watched a teeny tiny bit of Top Model. It was pretty embarassing.

Their big photo shoot had a contraversial topics theme. The girl who ended up being kicked off was supposed to be anti-fur in her pix. She was supposed to use her props (paintbrush, can of red paint, pile of supposed fur coats) to depict the cause. Anyway, she just looked confused the whole time. She told the camera she liked furs and didn't know why anyone wouldn't because of "fashion and stuff." Later, in the judging room, they asked her what her personal stance was on wearing furs, since she just looked confused in her photos. She said she was fine with furs when the animals just died of natural causes and stuff, like getting in fights with each other in the jungle, but not if someone just killed them for their fur.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

"They do die of natural causes sometimes, right?" Her voice was annoying. I'm glad she got the boot.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of clueless people, one of my coworkers (big surprise!) was whining about how hard Lent is. She can't have meat on Fridays until 4pm. 4 PM! What is she supposed to do until then? She just feels like she's starving on Fridays. It really is a sacrifice. Meanwhile, she's eating a yogurt and a 100 calorie pack of cookies. That's it. I say, hey, you could pack a PBJ! She hates PBJs. I say, what about a salad? What about soup? I don't like salad. Vegetarian soup is bland.

And apparently, she can eat fish. She should just cram it with tuna.

After a while, I gave up and let her get back to her moaning.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what she gave up, meat for half of one day a week? I'll never understand Christians.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Good news: I won't have to pay much for the new tire, since I just bought the damn thing last month.

Bad news: they don't have any new tires, and have to order it from CHICAGO, so I hope my spare gets me through the weekend.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

yum. Panang sounds good. my black boots are also good for walking, so I'll be fine.

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

WOW. That girl sounds awful!! Both girls, actually. Dumb fur & dumb meat ladies.
I suppose I felt more hungry right after I went vegetarian because meat does leave that "filled up" feeling. It is rather amusing that she's restricting herself to a yogurt & a cookie pack until MEAT TIME...as though she's sacrificing through her slight reserves until she can binge until dawn.

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you vegetarian now, Kelsey? I can't remember.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm looking at old threads. I want to find my earliest post to ilx, but it's hard, because my name was just "jeff"

Chicago bday party thread

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been a vegetarian for the better part of 13 years, although I do eat fish sometimes.

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

This was my first thread, possibly first post:

So have any of you tried out those little fuzzy nipple covers? They're supposed to keep you warm & toasty. I haven't, that's why I ask. I have a problem with (a) being cold & (b) having my nipples show through all my tops when it starts to get chilly out. Bandaids hurt when you rip them off and it's dumb when you can see this little rectangular outline under your shirt. Am I the only girl with this problem?
Sarah McLusky (coco) on Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:12 AM (4 years ago)

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, there are fuzzy nipple covers?

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I need those. I can get quite niptactular for a man.

I don't want to find my first post, or any of my early posts, because they will probably seem totally dumb.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Way to make an entrance.

Woah, this looks like it might have some recording potential: http://madison.craigslist.org/msg/287060127.html

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to leave work early, dudes. Have a great weekend!!

― sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want to find my first post, or any of my early posts, because they will probably seem totally dumb.

ORLY??! :-D

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, no more dumb than any of my other posts I guess! :D

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

This vendor won't stop harassing me for money, even though I have no control over when he gets paid. I usually have no idea until a check or draw actually hit my desk. Plus, both bosses are out, as is the accountant. Leave me alone! I don't know! I basically told him as much. Then he wrote me again asking when he'd see payment. I don't know! I don't know! I still don't know!

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet he calls me sometime later this afternoon or comes in the office with the same question.
I understand people wanting to be paid but this particular company is a huge pain in the neck. I have told them a million times I can't help them and given them the names/numbers for the project manager and accountant. They'd prefer to just bother me though.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, I'll stop talking about it. I promise.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

What genre of music can you not tolerate?

most electronic and dance music. or anything that is horribly repetitive.

Jeff on Friday, April 27, 2001 7:00 PM (5 years ago)

ha ha ha. I was stupid.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow 2001. You've got me beat. I wonder when Nick started posting. I know it was way before I did. ILM was his thing.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still going through the older threads. If only I could sort by date. And erase Jeff Buckly from existence.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

IMO there's a good argument to be made for erasing Jeff Buckley from existence besides making it easier to find your first post.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

This is my very first geeky post.

Personally, I love Rock n' Roll. "Kenny G ain't got no soul, John Coltrane is rock & roll"...pure entertainment. Plus, it's catchy as hell, and I have a soft spot for any MC who is willing to start screaming (and reference Nina Simone in the same song).

Jordan Cohen on Tuesday, May 8, 2001 7:00 PM (5 years ago)

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think this was my first ILE post:

Soul Vegetarian! Yes!

Oddly enough, some of my favorite restaurants in Chicago tend to be veggie places with a religious aspect to them. Especially the Buddhist joints, like Victory's Banner (for breakfast), Amitabul, and the new, delicious Alice & Friends.

I'll also third Andie's -- it is a shade better than Reza's, methinks.

jaymc (jaymc) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:57 PM (3 years ago)

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

That was on my (ex) ex-girlfriend's birthday, coincidentally.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i have no idea what my first post was. No recollection at all. I'm sure it was on ILM, though.

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

And I think this is my first ILM post:

Hey nabisco, et al. -- how come no Pitchfork writers voted in the Pazz & Jop? Seems like writing for the site should be make you far more reputable than some of the freelancers they get lists from. Then again, I don't know what's involved in submitting a list.

Partially, I bring it up cuz I feel like PFM writers could have some sway. At least Enon, who put out such a fun record (#15 on Pitchfork's year-end), wouldn't have to languish at #733 (!!) on P&J02.

jaymc on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:09 PM (4 years ago)

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

First thread I ever started

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't find my first post. It was after I found my name encoded by John in a conversation about the Ditty Bops.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a very jaymc post.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

This was the first thread I started on ILE!

jaymc (jaymc) on Monday, September 27, 2004 10:42 AM (2 years ago)

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY I remember that, Eric!

I don't remember my first post, either. It might have been after the BYOM bday party, or right before.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Did somebody say The Ditty Bops?

Jesus, I know ALL of you!

I won't even say what I was googling to end up at this page at 1 a.m. on a Sunday night.

Flaneur on Sunday, September 4, 2005 11:45 PM (1 year ago)

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I assumed it was this, Jenny:

It was really nice to meet everyone! You're pretty okay for a bunch of internet people.

jennyb on Sunday, October 3, 2004 9:23 AM (2 years ago)

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I think this was the first ILM thread I started

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ "a bunch of internet people"

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The first thread I ever started was the one about piercing babies' ears. That might be the only one I've started, except the one on the sandbox about ominous literary gifts from dates.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the first one I started was about when K@t|3 and M@tt (my roomie, for those who haven't met him) were breaking up, and I was afraid I was going to have to choose sides. Thankfully, I just ignored both of them for about a month while they hated each other.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I never start threads anymore.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't someone like Adamrl once start a thread for excelsioring yourself?

The best song I heard by this German-rapper-sounding guy (and believe me, this is going to be embarrassing once I figure out who it is) was this great song about "she's just my friend" -- an ode to friends-with-benefits.

Flaneur on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 9:50 AM (1 year ago)

Otto von Biz Markie?

jaymc (jaymc) on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 9:52 AM (1 year ago)

Also LOL at "German-rapper-sounding guy" ... it was Rhymefest, right?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

The only ILE thread I remember starting is the retarded potato cat one. There a bunch of ILM threads, most of which sunk like stones.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh lordy, my first post was, as far as I can tell, on the thread "ILX: Pantheon Champion (Who is yr favorite god/dess?).

Isn't it obvious? Pythia, of course, speaking of "remnants of ancient cults." I'm still waiting for them to reclaim Delphi in my honor. Wouldn't set a move-in date just yet.

Pyth on Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:00 PM (5 years ago)

― Laurel, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, yeah, it was Rhymefest. I was stumped for days trying to remember.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i stopped looking after 6 pages of search results with another 19 (at least) still to go but this is the earliest i could find:

my favorite place in western mass is that 170 degree turn on the mohawk trail (in adams maybe?). always fun when you forget it's there and have to go from 60 to 20 or careen off the side of the mountain.
my sister and her husband moved to bennington last fall, they live next to the war monument so pop in and see them the next time you're in the neighborhood.

-- otto midnight (otto_midnigh...), April 28th, 2003 6:14 PM. (link)

i don't remember what username i used to use here years ago. it wasn't the one i thought it would be, someone else had it!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

classic if only for the fact that it lead to bodily harm of billy crystal.
-- otto midnight (otto_midnigh...), March 24th, 2003 5:29 PM. (link)

i like this out of context.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

In as much as I wish bodily harm on anybody, I wish it on Billy Crystal.

When Jeff and I got home last night all drunk we watched the Cosby Show and it was surprisingly enjoyable. Also, my supervising attorney was at the live TAL show last night, too, which is kind of weird but hopefully will make him love me enough to hire me to work here.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i got to the bar at 8:07 last night, the bar opens at 8. i stayed there until past 2 a.m. talking aaaalllllllll night and i never have anything to say. my entire body is one giant knotted cramp right now.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Talking to a lovely lady?

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

lots and lots of black sabbath.
-- otto midnight (otto_midnigh...), February 27th, 2003.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Have any of you heard of Undergr0und L0ung3? (@ corner of Clark, Sh3ffield + N3wport)

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope that was your first post, Kevin!

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

talking to a friend and then to some dude about the relative expectations of the bulls and celtics. then i almost hit a dude because he would rather listen to the clash than the johnnie taylor record the dj had on. i fucking hate that prick, i've seen him around before and he's always a douche.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

sarah, my ex wicker park ex works across the street from the UGLounge. i've been there plenty of times.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard of it but never been.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Ever seen a band play there??

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

no, i only went for post work drinks.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

also, kiss lyrics rule:

She's Good Looking and She's looking like she should be Good

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Their upcoming shows look... unpromising.

(They emailed us asking about our availability - we never contacted them)

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that I didn't even realize it was a music venue doesn't bode well.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It just seems really random to me. It would maybe seem less random if they myspaced us or something.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

My first 2 Usenet posts

I was 17. I was annoying as hell.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG!!!

Someone read teh Redeye this morning!!! I'm at the library where there is an older man in a suit logged into Sugardaddies.com!! (A place for cute young women to meet their sugar daddies, doncha know?)

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

There was an article about it in the Redeye this morning.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

As annoying as Chris Everett?

Little internet Jeff = f'in adorable!

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I rated Jeff's first USENET post 5 STARS

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

why were you thinking about christ everett at 1 a.m.?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

That article quotes Catharine MacKinnon.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

oof sorry about this jaymc but i forgot i promised a friend i'd go to the bulls game tonight..missing the free beer & entry at sound bar. oh well. Feel free to give me a call after, my friend's gf just broke up w him and we're looking for some drinking to go down.

― deej, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

After a quick check, everything I posted on a metal board during high school seems to be have been lost to time. Thank god.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

computer keeps dying
and coming back to life
and dying
and coming back one more time to tease me
and then dying again
then knocking on the door to be let in again because it's gonna be different this time it promises

i am going to smash it

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

my first post was about slant 6, i think. i had been lurking for about a week.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I probably responded to that post because I was all into Slant 6 back in the day.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, so my work nemesis, let me tell you about him. He was extra aggressive this morning, scowling and speaking to no one. At one point he saw me talking with a coworker (I was talking about this morning's CTA problems) and he came up to me, lunged a little (clenched his fists at his side and puffed up his chest) and said, "What the fuck are you talking about? Are you bitching? You got something to say?"

For the rest of the day if we walked anywhere near each other he made sure to brush me with his elbow, and at one point as I was walking away from him he said, "fucking cocksucker" under his breath! He's NUTS. This is going to stop.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

OK deej, it's cool.

I'm looking through Salon Table Talk posts ca. 1998-99 to see if I can find anything I wrote. I only posted a few times in the "Movies" section. Have no idea what screenname I used. My second post was something embarrassing because I had spent months reading these people and when I was addressed by Poster X, I was like "OMG *the* Poster X said something to me!"

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ha sarah - you were already talking about slant 6, which is why i chimed in.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

jesse, don't let that dude intimidate you. fuck that dude. i say we issue a chilx beatdown on the motherfucker.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude's getting the roid rage! I bet he has mad bacne.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

haha mad bacne

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The UG lounge is where I watch the new seasons of a certain mob show - but I wouldn't want the premium cable network to find out that they air it.

One night at the start of season six there was a metal band setting up to shoot a music video there. It's not a bad bar at all for hanging out (it was always dead, in a good way, on those Sunday nights I was there), and they have beer specials, but I don't know that it'd be worth the trouble of playing a show there.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

He's seriously the ONLY problematic character at my work. If it weren't for him, my peers would be a dream team.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

My brain wants to transpose "mad bacne" into "bad macne," but that makes even less sense.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

MINE TOO!

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

bad man-acne?

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

acne caused by mac cosmetics?

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I had mac and cheese for lunch.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

his acne is so bad it's even on his raincoat?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

acne on or caused by a person named mac?

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

That last one.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

his powerbook has zits?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

No, not that one, the one before that.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i had bf named mac once
he was sorta greasy and very well could have given me a zit or three

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

You've never heard the term "bacne" before? Acne on your back? A common side-effect of steroid abuse...

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK YOU, NO XPOST WARNING. FUCK YOU IN HELL.

The one where he has acne on his raincoat.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

his acne is in the shape of christine mcveigh?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

fleetwood macne?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i have, but it looks funny esp. paired with "mad"

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

are boob zits called rackne?

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

They are now!

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

ahahahaha Amanda has killed me!

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

RACKNE!!!!

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

ballsacne?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

honore de ballsacne. ew.

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

that looks like ballsache

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha you beat me to it... nutsacne

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

of course when you get it between your buttocks, you have crackne.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahaha much better

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

we are all disgusting and must be stopped.

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

totally

i blame myself for laughing at bacne

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

each of these posts had the potential to be my last post ever since my computer will probably die any minute now

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

of course when you get it between your buttocks, you have crackne

when towga was here in april we were coming up the steps at the division blue line stop and there was this muffin top right in front of us with what we later called "butt crackne".

it was gross in so many ways.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"rackne" is a post to be proud of!

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It hurts when I kneel because I have acknee.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

now this is a sinkhole:

http://www.ordena.com/digg/sinkhole.html

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/77/316777_thumb.jpg

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Can we all agree that this article is dumb?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

See ya, Chicagoans. I may or may not be at the Soundbar tonight, since I picked up a shift at another restaurant (L|oyd's) tonight, but I should get out pretty early. Save me a seat for 30 minutes or something.

― Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I skimmed that article in the paper yesterday and couldn't figure out what dude was trying to say.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I am so torn about going to soundbar tonight. On one hand, bros and free booze and making fun of dumb people. On the other hand, cold and tired and having to be judged to get inside. I am such a wuss.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i had bf named mac once
he was sorta greasy and very well could have given me a zit or three

http://www.musicman.com/00pic/5416.jpg

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

big-food capitalism masquerading as social concern

100% agree with this

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

What's wrong with your computer, Amanda?

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

having to be judged to get inside.

Huh? We're on the list.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with that, too, Dan -- but the thrust of her article seems to be, "Waaah, caring about what you eat is SO HARD."

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The author doesn't do very well at getting her point across, but I agree with much of the article.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

What do you agree with exactly?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too, it seems that she is complaining about the people who take the simple concept of caring about what you eat and mutate it into some kind of holier than thou rockism-style BS.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody take pics tonight pls.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

PLZ x 10

― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever. It rubbed me the wrong way. Viz. "The Omnivore's Dilemma is impractical, because I'm too lazy to actually read it."

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Martha Bayne agrees with me.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I am in a doctor's waiting room, waiting for him to tell me that my diet is total shit and my health is going to hell fast, so I'm a little disinclined to agree with someone who's too lazy to read a book. Jesus, how did he work up the motivation to write that article?

― kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Guys, just a wild guess, but I think "Emily Nunn" is a woman.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe she did read the book, but is writing about it with the point of view of "normal people" in mind -- people who maybe won't read it because it has no practical application to their lifestyle or living situaion? (Viz. "it didn't really seem to have all that many answers for the mainstream population, now less popularly known as "poor people.")

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't read it, either, but it's next in my queue (my dad just gave me his copy), so I'll see if that's true or not. Anyway, she read part of the book and skimmed the rest because she's "cynical and lazy." Truly the mark of a curious, inquisitive journalist.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

big DUD, I find them less than spectacular.

Jeff on Monday, April 30, 2001 7:00 PM (5 years ago)

Is this you, Jeff (on the recently revived Dismemberment Plan thread on ILM)?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, i found that earlier too.

I like them now.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Again, can you see "cynical and lazy" as her trying to speak for the bulk of the population of the country? Like "put this important information in some terms everyone can understand and appreciate instead of being snobby about it and making them feel like they're being talked down to"?

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

(The Plan was great live)

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

(My sister's Masters research is about this same sort of topic, wrt soy products and their marketing/branding practices and how that effects who buys the products)

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I luv the Plan.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder... Do you think people buy things like veggie burgers mostly because they were already following a vegetarian lifestlye and came upon them or do you think there is a significant number of people just buying them to supposedly have one slightly healthier meal than usual?

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think what she's ultimately saying is that she doesn't WANT to understand and appreciate these books, because she wants to keep on living blissfully ignorant of what she consumes.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

(This is Nick posting at Sarah's work) I still think "Emergency & I" is one of the great indie rock albums.

― KitCat, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Jordan eats veggie burgers, doesn't he?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

All veggie burgers are not that healthy.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Some, not all. Some are healthy!

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

and some are tasty even.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I never ate veggie burgers until recently, and now I eat them just because they're healthy and quick to make. They're especially healthier than real burgers.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff pls give examples of healthy/not healthy v. burgers

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

(v = vagina)

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Vagina joke kills thread.

I'm only skimming that ILM "smarter" thread but it's making me nostalgic (this on top of the first post thing today).

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think what she's ultimately saying is that she doesn't WANT to understand and appreciate these books, because she wants to keep on living blissfully ignorant of what she consumes.

I don't. I think she is saying that the message of the books is inherently good, but the delivery of the message is put in such terms as to polarize people and provoke strong reactions that are not helping the overall cause (i.e. either becoming some kind of nazi about food or rejecting the principles because of percieved arrogance/impracticality). But, who knows. Maybe a letter to the editor is in order?

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm having trouble forming coherent thoughts today, but I should have clarified that some are healthier than others when comparing them against other veggie burgers. You may find some that have at least 3 grams more fat per serving that another kind. The Boca original vegan are usually the lowest in fat and calories.

I don't really eat them any more though. I'm having my own little meat renaissance. I can't get enough.

― Jeff, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Just because someone eats meat does not mean that they don't eat vegetarian meals, ie veggie burgers.
I am not a vegetarian, but I would say that I eat like one 2/3 of the time. The other 1/3 of the time I am eating bacon.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess some veggie burgers are laced with frozen cheese and such. Although any kind of veggie burger is going to have less fat/calories than most other meals I might eat (pizza, meat burgers, tacos, huge amounts of Indian or Thai food, etc.).

Meat Renaissance would be a good name for an album.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what was weird about your co-worker, Sarah -- acting like the only alternative to eating meat was, like, yogurt and rice cakes. You don't even have to eat veggie burgers, either. You can eat enormous bean burritos, or spinach lasagna, or cheese pizza.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I tend to resist overthinking/overdiscussing food too, like Dan was saying -- there's a certain amount of anti-foodist in me that can't take it when someone asks if my spinach is organic or my chicken is free range and looks askance at me when it's not. FFS, it's not KFC, leave me alone.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

These are my favorite veggie burgers:

http://www.pdtfoods.org/products/images/californiaburger.gif

However, they're very much of the mashed-veggies variety rather than the fake-meat variety. I tried sauteeing some onions a couple weeks ago to put on top, and it didn't have the big hearty taste I was hoping for.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I just tried some new Indian-style "masala" veggie burgers from TJs and they look like potato cakes. I didn't eat one yet but D said they were "ok."

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

ps jaymc your onions were old. you have to sautee them right away, not a couple of weeks in advance.

harhar

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

pps i hope you guys have a ragin' good time at the booty bar tonight.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a certain amount of anti-foodist in me that can't take it when someone asks if my spinach is organic or my chicken is free range and looks askance at me when it's not

I would get frustrated at questions like this, too, but I'm happy to say I've rarely encountered them. I'll also add that I've never read Fast Food Nation, so I don't know how much of it carries a polemical "shame on you for eating fast food!!" taint. I do think that some meat eaters think they're being scolded about their dietary choices when they're not.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still sad that TJ's stopped carrying SOY NUGGETS.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I am w/ John on this article. The opening salvo describing a vegetarian hippy who leaves his dog outside the library kills her cred right out of the box. I can no patience or respect for the "Vegetarianism is stupid because some vegetarians also eat Snickers bars and wear leather shoes" argument. THAT is lazy logic.

Kenan, does your doctor have the internet in her waiting room?

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Fast Food Nation is more about damning the corporations behind fast food (and big agribusiness) than about scolding people for eating it.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

So then the only person whom she's actually arguing against is some dumb friend of hers who raises his eyebrows when she drinks non-organic milk?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I did not read this article, btw, since my computer died as I was linking to it. I am at the office now for Friday Night Duty.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you going to get a new computer? Did it die of natural causes?

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, USians DO need to be mindful of what they eat, and the "Nutrional Indudstrial Complex" IS fucked up, and getting more fucked up every day. People get touchy about their eating habits, but that's no kind of good argument against books like FFN or the Omnivore's Dilemma. If you're eating fast food every day and buying Lunchables for the kids, that's a problem on a lot of levels. If someone reads a book like Fast Food Nation and thinks, "HOW PREACHY! I'm going to eat at Taco Bell every day forever and ever" instead of "That's fucked up. Maybe I should put more thought into what I'm eating," then I can't imagine any sort of method of information conveyance that wouldn't have the same "off putting" effect.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I do not feel that way about FFN at all - it was informative and I think I've recommended it to like 10 people who eat too much fast food. I have not read the Omnivore's Dilemma.

My computer died for unknown reasons. I don't know what we're going to do about it. The warranty expired SIX WEEKS AGO. Fuckers.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

notes on ketchup packets

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That said, I'm not going to scoff at someone for not drinking organic milk, especially if that person is socio-politically aware and not avoiding organic/healthy food out of some twisted sense of intentionally dense pride. I AM going to scoff at someone who buys Lunchables (the evil foodstuff I personally love to hate) because OMG have you ever read the ingredients on those things? They aren't food! And the packaging! MAMA MIA!

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I feel like I eat pretty f-ing healthily and for someone to tell me that I need to eat even MORE healthily makes me want to tell them to eat recycled cardboard.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Worst lunchable ever: "taco bell"

Contains tube of "meat"

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

If it's not obvious, none of this is directed at anyone here, especially Amanda, whose eating habits I seriously and honestly strive to emulate. So healthy! So interesting! So home cooked!

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Really, you thought it was scolding? I didn't get that impression at all.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

recycled cardboard = not so healthy

― Laurel, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

lunchables? more like lunchdisables!

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

xpostoramalamadingdong!

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

more like lunchaDON'TS!

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(I know it's pretty much been said 900000x already but: no xpost notification ate my balls)

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Thought what was scolding?

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

nonono-- FFN is not scolding. I just meant that it did not have the effect on me of making me want to eat McShitcakes every day.

Jenny, if you were me today you would have eaten
oatmeal
figs
nuts
grilled cheese
pretzels
applesauce
licorice

for dinner i hope to eat a salad with giant scallops!

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Fast Food Nation

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm coming off as cranky, but that article made me cranky. Sorry you're so sensitive about what you eat, sister, but that's not my problem.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG I LOVE GIANT SCALLOPS

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, that settles that! :) Also, once again, fuck no xposts... how confusing.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I love everything that Amanda has eaten today with the possible exception of pretzels, which I don't hate but which I rarely get excited for. Unless you are talking about SUPER PRETZELS in which case: AWESOME.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i know. it blows.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

GODDAMN THE NO XPOSTS

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymc I still have a copy of FFN if you want to borrow it.

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

If you were my friends you would go with me to Lawrence's sometime and eat (fried) giant scallops.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

And his awesome follow up: Reefer Madness

― dan m, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and a diet hansen's rootbeer because i could not stop eating licorice.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that FFN is apparently not scolding means that its appearance in old girl's article makes even less sense.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno about fried scallops-- are they rubbery? i usually only make my own because i am FUSSY about rubbery scallops.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Bye Chicago. I'm going home to eat the $12 worth of caprese salad I bought from Jewel to take to a meeting that turned out to be nonexistent.

Come to my conference tomorrow at UNITE Hall, 333 S. Ashland, at 10 AM to hear me give a fiery speech. Stay for free food.

― Jenny, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to go to Lawrence's sometime. Actually, Kr and I did stop in when we went to Chinatown recently, but we weren't hungry, so we just kind of looked around and promised ourselves we'd return someday.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

They're not rubbery, they're BUTTERY.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I think scallops are a perfect transition food from vegetarianism to fish-eatingism. They don't have heads, taste like whatever you put on them and have an inoffensive texture if cooked properly.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmmm buttery.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Kr is buttery?

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, I'm to drive slow and rock shows. Have good weekends.

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Even though I've been typing it for nearly a year, it just occurred to me how funny "Kr" is.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

BYE GUYZ

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the periodic abbreviation for krypton(ite).

― Jordan, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, both of the Schlosser books are pretty fascinating in a non-obnoxious way.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

My fave veggie burgers are the Morningstar Grillers PRIME. I don't think they contain any vegetable matter at all, just mysterious chemicals. They're probably relatively fatty because they are DELICIOUS.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I checked out this book from the library but I'm not sure I'm actually going to read it.

― n/a, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

(from the amazon description) But the meatless diet couldn't be completely violence-free, for it also appealed to Adolf Hitler. Stuart points out that not only was Hitler a vegetarian but so were Himmler, Hess, Bormann and possibly Goebbels. They even argued about the purity of each others' diets, with Hess declining to eat meals cooked by Hitler's chef because the vegetables were not truly organic.

hahaha sorry but that made me chortle

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I read the New Yorker review of it. Sounds interesting.

― jaymc, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the BPAL perfume i'm wearing today might smell like AXE body spray. I can't tell if it smells good and freshly unisex or like men's deodorant.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with a woodsy spicy woman.

― Eazy, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Better than being musky, I suppose.

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

This entire conversation has reminded me of the GBV song "Ambergris"

What's that you're wearing/smells so good
You don't wanna know
What's that you're eating/could be misleading
You don't wanna know

― La Lechera, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

so if I go to Panang circa 7:45 tonight some of y'all are going to be there, right?

― horseshoe, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep, H'shoe.

Haha, I'm loving these Olde-ILM revives. Jeff on Avril Lavigne:

I think her britches are too big.

Jeff on Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (4 years ago)

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm late here, but I just wanted to say that that article was knee-jerk reactionary asshattery without a single cogent point. Fuck that bitch.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I'm not going out tonight. Sorry guys, but it suuuucks out there.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

And my mom said that I would never be famous

Also, Jeff OTM re: Avril Lasagna.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Again, can you see "cynical and lazy" as her trying to speak for the bulk of the population of the country? Like "put this important information in some terms everyone can understand and appreciate instead of being snobby about it and making them feel like they're being talked down to"?

Ok, but isn't that basically the same argument the right wing uses to convince people they're victims of a sinister left-wing cabal? "They're snooty; we're REAL." Ok, ok, I do not doubt your existence, but "real" and "possibly mistaken" are not opposite ends of the same spectrum. I understand her point about Whole Foods, and how it's easier for poor people to afford bad food than good. Or at least, it's an obviously more enticing an option to them. But those problems are systemic, and not at all the fault of organic farmers or consumers of grass fed beef or any such thing. If there is any real complaint against certain kinds of food zealots (who, by her description, I have never met) in this article, it's overridden by what I suspect to be hysterical and totally unwarranted hatred of libruls and their damn judgmental ways. It's right-wing propaganda, is what this is, of the lowest sort.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I must say, though, that if the next big conservative talking point before the election is that we should all keep eating fast food with impunity to protect our freedom, I will be highly amused.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"Fatten up, America! Also, smoke! Smoke while there's still time!"

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

(umm... I take back the phrase "of the lowest sort." The kind of phrase that sets people's teeth on edge. I retract it.)

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"people's"

― Jenny, Saturday, 3 March 2007 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I wub you!

― Jenny, Saturday, 3 March 2007 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

we all know who i mean, no need to broadcast, i figure.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

also, re-reading my post, it felt like exactly the kind of empty hyperbole that i'm prone to.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

just that phrase, i mean. the rest of it i can defend.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I am watching The Gate. This movie scared me when I was a youngin'. Now I just think little Steven Dorf is adorfable.

― Jenny, Saturday, 3 March 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Where did you go, Louis Tripp? Such wasted talent. Killer Dwarfs!

― Jenny, Saturday, 3 March 2007 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

time for pictures.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/tunnel.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/sky.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/tower_nght6.jpg

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yowza.

Was the blue light in that first photo just as the camera recorded it, or did you manipulate it? Either way, it looks great, but I would be very surprised if any artificial light reads that color. It's great how it contrasts with the warm light -- shit I don't really want to say this -- at the end of the tunnel.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 07:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Soundbar was fun, and mostly not in what the Germans call "ironicenjoymentenhausen" sort of way. The inside was great, with all the colors, lighting, glass, tiles, furniture, projected animation, etc. There was not really any attitude; all of the staff were very courteous and even friendly. Sure, there were a variety of stripey-shirts, questionable highlight jobs, and Eurotrash to have fun with (at the expense of), but it was not across the board ripe for mockery.

We played a fun game that went like this: there was one spot where there were halogen lights shining upward from the floor; you block the light with your foot and then dupe a friend into looking at your shoe. As the dupenfrienden leans forward to get a look at your shoe, you remove your foot, blinding your stupid, stupid, gullible friend! (This tends to work repeatedly on the same friend for quite some time. It was certainly long-lasting fun with EZ's friend Geoff.)

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I tihink I stiffed the cbbie by abotu $3. I am puking for the first time in a year.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link

[i}all of the staff were very courteous and even friendly.[/i}

UHHHH

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:09 (seventeen years ago) link

they wer all YU GO HERE, NO GO HERE NOW

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Puking!?! Holy shit. I came home and ate some leftover curry.

Soundbar was good for anthropology, not so good otherwise, except for having friends there. The dude who tried to pick a fight with me was the beginning of the end of my night there, for sure.

I understand why the food article was dummmm, Kenan. I was just trying to salvage a little bit of sanity out of it and maybe (definitely) playing devil's advocate a little. It's my way. I try to find bright spots in the darkest of places. People outghta eat things that are delicious and nutritious and make them feel good. Also, hyperbole what??? It's pretty funny to watch you talk yourself out of things over the course of a few posts. <3 U DUDE

― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:21 (seventeen years ago) link

oh no John! I hope you feel better soon.

I had a good time at sound bar until SOMEONE SPILLED THEIR DRINK ON MY BACK! but then I had a lovely time with John and Dan. thanks, Eric, mostly I had a blast.

― horseshoe, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:21 (seventeen years ago) link

hi guys i'll be fine. you are home so soonn@@!

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Logan Square: It's not as far as you think.

― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link

they wer all YU GO HERE, NO GO HERE NOW

They weren't *nasty* about it. There were a lot of stations--stations of the club--pre-door, ID, door, coat check, and finally boozahol, but really they were just trying to be effecient people-movers. People in groups need a sure-handed shepherd to head off the aimless milling about that is otherwise inevitable.

The too-cool looking chick from the alley (with her designer sunglasses on at night) said "Goodnight guys, be safe." That's very not too-cool.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link

(Unless you're trying to get a cab home from there.)

― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link

FUUUUUUCKing xpost

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― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link

jesse: i saw some guy walk behind you, holding a martini while we were downstairs. you backed up about 1 step and sloshed his drink a little and he shot you a DIRTY look. at your neck, anyway
and i thought, huh, i wonder if this weasel is going to try to start something, because dan could kill the shit out of him
me: sweet. motherfuckers better recognize
that I am huge and I don't know where my body ends necessarily

― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, I won't be going back anytime soon, as I have always had a verrry low tolerance for clubs, but it was fun for a few reasons.

Anyway, my point about the people herding us around was that they were just doing their job.

Re. xposts: I have taken to refreshing the page right before I post. Still, fuck you no-xpost warning, in hell, as I think I said earlier.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw that guy almost pick a fight, Dan. He seemed not to know he was in the middle of a dancezone. Dumb dude.

It worked out well that folks could go or stay and dance and not be on their own either way.

The deal with the open bar wasn't a scam, and that was a big relief. We really did have free well drinks and Domaine St. Michelle sparklin wine.

Thanks for being game for that, everyone. Really good Thai tonight too.

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 08:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to the free Detroit Cobras show in Logan Square, and thankfully found the 5 people who were actually dancing in the goddamn crowd of ~400 in a clump. The opener was slightly better, as is to be expected. Also I drank.

Then my former roommate and I met up, and we very nearly drove to Nashville so that he could DP and I could work sound for a gay porn shoot, but then we stopped when he realized that he didn't have enough money to cover gas and such. I swear to you, this is absolute truth. I still have 3 changes of clothing, a couple books, teeth brushing shit, and ~20 CD's in my bag.

This is the thread where we post drunk, right?

― en i see kay, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link

CAUTION (hairgelled dudes)
http://harkless.org/dan/art/images/backgrounds/anti/anti.png
DANCEZONE

― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:03 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the thread where we post drunk, right?

That is what I have been doing, but now I am crashing.

― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello, Chicago! Durnk here, too, but no open bar, sadly! Also no near fights, so maybe it evens out.

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel! Hi! You're even an hour ahead of us!

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link

What about near porn participation?

― en i see kay, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:10 (seventeen years ago) link

No credit cards for gas that could be paid off with the Nashville-gay-porn-shoot bounty?

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The Miseducation of Laurel! Hi!

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing even slightly interesting like that. Saw friends' band, theyb were great even thoguh they didn't cover Eno, I was going to hit one someone near the end of the night & we chatted but another girl mosied up and said "I think I love you -- what's your name again?" and I was like "ooohh boy, I'm staying out of this one" and that was wise. Home now, making tea. Your meathead club sounds like fun!

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

There were a lot of young Asian men there tonight.

An unrelated observation involving race: young African-American men favor wearing their baseball cap bills straight across* (as opposed to the other extreme, the frat boy tube-shaped bill). Tonight I saw a couple guys on the train wearing their hats like this, but with the hologram Major League Baseball stickers still on the underside, and some other sticker still on the top of the bill.

Other observation related to this: the wearing of Timberlands with the little tag, made of leather, embossed with "100% Genuine Leather" still dangling from the laces, plus guys wearing suit jackets with the little name brand tag still stitched onto the sleeve!!! This is beyond awful, and I hope it's not a trend, but I've seen it twice in Chicago.

My analysis is that these are people who grew up poor and/or still are, so they like to make the very most of having something brand new, and like to keep it in the same condition that it was when they saw it in the store.

Perhaps this is why Minnie Pearl wore the price tag on her hat? Hmmm.

*No, Jenny, I didn't make this up on my own. I learned this from my former roommate (for 1 month) who was a black guy (and likely still is) who worked at Lids (hat store), and his boss, my other former roommate. After they told me this, I noticed that this was the trend.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The dude is wierd about credit, and has no cards (though, neither do I, after 2005 aka the Year of Debt). He won't travel without at least $300 cash in his pocket.

Believe you me, the sober boy who was driving (who apparently was to be the bottom) tried very hard to convince him to throw caution to the wind, but he said no.

There's a small chance he'll call in the morning saying they're leaving and asking if I'm still up for it, but I'll probably be sober enough at that point to remember I have school and a job.

― en i see kay, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, I think people dont' realize that they're supposed to take the tags OFF! At least as far as the sleeve tags on suits adn dress coats are concerned. Ditto the women with their coat vents still tacked closed AND the Coach purses etc with hang-tags still attached. It is just sad.

Trying not to go to bed until this pint of tea is drunk and I am slightly more sober.

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oooh, I also almost hit on someone, the guitarist from the opening band. She had a very, very pretty Danelectro, and I was going to drop luthier science on her. But then the dancing came, and I got a cramp. Which I danced through.

― en i see kay, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:19 (seventeen years ago) link

TEA.

― en i see kay, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Bonus of tube-shaped hat bill: you can fold it in half and stick the bill in yr back jeans pocket if necessary. When you get it good and broken in, that is.

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Was it the 6' tall blonde you were going to hit on? Gina B. of the B.s?

The deal at the club really made the difference. I'm guessing none of us had $60 worth of fun ($20 cover + coat check + $8-$10 drinks), but no cover and well drinks made it work out fine.

Very smart marketing on the club's part: they let the line go down the street until there were enough people to fill the downstairs lounge, and then they let the downstairs lounge fill up before opening up the main dance area.

I think we were basically paid extras there tonight, so that when the bottle-buying crowd showed up at 10:30, it was clear that the party was already hoppin and that the burden would not be on them to get the party started.

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

OH! That's the other thing I was going to speculate on-- I wonder if the tube bill didn't come from the emulating boyish, masculine look of having stuffed your cap into your back pocket. That and the fact that it fits with the whole distressed (Aberzombie) aesthetic.

Laurel, have you seen people with the little brand tags still attached? It's one thing to forget to take out the stitch in the vent, but to leave that tag on....

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Jesse, I have. And I've seen it on enough, and varied enough kinds of people, that I'm convinced it's an oversight in at least a fair number of cases. Dunno abt Chicago, tho.

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, forgetting to untack your straight skirt vent? That's jsut dumb. How are you even walking??

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm most surprised at the ones who wear the suit jackets with the label still on the wrist, though it makes logical sense to keep it on if you want to show off the brand.

Bent caps: nostalgia + distress makes a lot of sense.

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the bussers at work (a gangero type--sort of a Latino Eminem) had his Timberlands tag still attached to his boots. I asked him about it, and he said (in a friendly way) "Fuck you, check it out--fucking Tims, motherfucker!" Which I think is pretty much sums up what a lot of people are trying to convey when they leave their tags on. Fuck you, check it out--Joseph Abboud, motherfucker!

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, it's embarrassing for them. But now my tea is gone and I am for bed. Lates, Chicago.

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

It wasn't the amazon blonde, she played double bass. She was ~~cute~~intimidatingly gorgeous, but I'm the sort that almost always goes for the shorter brunette who's playing the dano.

― en i see kay, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Good night folks. We'll speculate on clothing and culture in the morning.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

G'night, Jesse. I'm actually wearing a Joseph Abbout bathrobe right now (bought at steep Filene's discount, of course).

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I must be so used to typing 'about' that I spelled the guy's name wrong.

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Goddamnit. I missed something, didn't I? Oh well, I got pictures. Funny how it was too nasty to go outside until I got bored around 11. I wish I was on NYC time -- I wouldn't leave the house until 11 anyway.

No, the light in the tunnel is not manipulated by me. Just the fluorescents in the tunnel vs. the mercury vapors in the park. Also, I have a very pretty black skyscraper at the end of my street!

I hate waking up in time for work on a Saturday. Forecast calls for cloudy skies and heavy napping.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

And now I am posting at 7:30 a.m. Taking over the morning shift. There was some loud thump noise that woke me up and then I couldn't go back to sleep.

I didn't really feel much attitude from the Soundbar staff, like Jesse said they just seemed really efficient at moving people around but not in a rude way. The only dicks were the other patrons. I thought it was interesting after we talked about dress codes being racist that there were a fair number of black dudes there in total violation of the dress code, wearing caps, baggy clothes and sneakers. I had fun but I had the thing where instead of drinking making me drunk, it just made me sleepy. So then when it started to get really packed and loud, I got irritable and claustrophobic instead of all YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I hope I didn't seem like too much of a wet blanket. We went to a fancy McDonald's with Jesse.

― n/a, Saturday, 3 March 2007 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi kenan.

― n/a, Saturday, 3 March 2007 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone else see what I see in that picture of the tunnel? Icicles in the middle of the tunnel = Lask Shore Drive will collapse at any minute!

Still not as bad as the Argyle Street el stop. Some of you know what I mean. That thing is a damn shame. It's literally falling apart. Chunks of wall falling out every day, water dripping everywhere -- it's not an el stop, it's a cave from Goonies.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

hi nick!

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Feel better jaymc. Don't puke. Puking is like drugs: FOR LOSERS.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

There was some loud thump noise that woke me up and then I couldn't go back to sleep.

That was your neighbor. He decided that instead of jerking off this morning, he would hurl himself out the window to his death. "I can't take it anymore! This meaningless existence of no girlfriend and scheduled masturbation!"

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha. Sarah just drunkenly tried to make me come back to bed and go to sleep.

― n/a, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw. You should go snuggle at least.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I did for a little while but I know I'm not going to fall back asleep. I'm going to watch a movie now I think.

― n/a, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a fine idea, actually. I have movies that I've purchased and seen before, but never actually watched my own copy of. Have you seen Millions? Cuet!

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the Blockbuster used movie deals that get me. Like 3 for $20. So I go, ooh, I LOOOOVE this movie, and... uh... I remember liking this one a lot... and this one will do.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Dobbs is all up ons this morning. Can't get enough of my love. Can't get me outta her head. The first thing I do when she gets like this is check that she's not hungry or thirsty. But no. All she wants is me.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, now i'm just music listenin. Hard drugs are for bartenders.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched the special features on the Playtime DVD.

― n/a, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

We went to a fancy McDonald's with Jesse.

I'm cringing a little, because this is a sore point right now with Jenny, Jeff, and to a lesser extent, Courtney. I seem to have a terrible knack for hauling people out to fancy/expensive places when all we wanted was a quick drink and/or snack. This even seems to be the case with McDonalds. Fortunately, the prices were not in line with its fanciness.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

OOOH!! You know what my very favorite thing about Soundbar is? Guess. Just guess.

Also, the McD's was the one at the Chicago Red Line stop. It was so elegant that it had a little section with wingback chairs in front of a marble topped table.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched the special features on the Playtime DVD.

Niiice. Another thing I could have loaned out.

Jesse, you are a SCOURGE.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

OOOH!! You know what my very favorite thing about Soundbar is? Guess. Just guess.

My guess is that you want to fuck the servers.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

My Favorite Thing About Soundbar

by Jesse

OK, so my favorite thing about that place was that at there were windows into both the men's and women's bathrooms. The bathrooms are on each side of one of the downstairs bars, and the wall that the bar and bathroom share has a smallish window in it, through which you can see the urinals on one side (right next to the window, from about chest level, up) and the doors to the stalls on the other side. It's bizarre, and I wonder if it's in some part a security measure.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone else see what I see in that picture of the tunnel? Icicles in the middle of the tunnel = Lask Shore Drive will collapse at any minute!

OMG!

Or maybe the engineers had the forethought to build expansion joints.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't being serious.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

But you KNOW what I'm talking about with Argyle station.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

No, the Argyle station was designed with the aesthetic concept of katachi in mind, an aesthetic that joins polar opposite like inside/outside, shelter/gross dripping in your Diet Coke, and high voltage radiant heaters/constant stream of liquid.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

If I have my mom in from out of town, that kind of decrepitness is embarrassing enough, because she's like, "Oh wow, so THIS is what public transit is like." Because she doesn't know public transit from a hole in the ground. But it's even worse when I'm with someone who lives in NY or SF, and knows what public transit SHOULD be like. And I have to be all, like, "But it's still a cool town! Really!"

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost HA!

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't think the Sound Bar staff was being rude or nasty, I just hate when people boss me around, and I hate feeling herded like cattle. When the one dude was like "Ahem, bathroom's over there!" I was like, "Hey, buddy, calm down. I'm just looking around." This is the kind of thing I get into arguments with security guards about. A couple years ago I was at the DMV with my mom, and I was waiting for her near the door while she went to the bathroom. Security guard said, "You can't stand there. Get in line or leave." I said, "Oh, I'm just waiting for my mom. It'll just be a minute." He said, "Then wait outside." I said, "It'll only be a minute." He said, "I don't care, rules are you have to wait outside." I said, "But why? Is there a particular reason why I can't stand here? Am I in the way of something?" This usually ends with me doing what I'm told but shaking my head and laughing like Jack on L O S T and loudly muttering as I walk away, "Okay, but there's really no point to this."

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I have the worst hangover I've had in a couple years, but I can't get back to sleep. :(

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the kind of thing I get into arguments with security guards about.

You get into arguments with security guards? Come on, you can't be that dumb.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Srsly, John, these people are being told what to tell you to do, and sometimes you have to do what you're told. "There's no point in this" is not the point. You're not exactly going to shake up society by being an obstinate ass about everything.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

HOw late did you stay out? I didn't really even get a buzz, and I left around 11:30.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, there's a kind of class-based horribleness implied in being rude to people who are, to quote Jesse, just doing their job. It's their job, dude. It's not about you.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

shit. xpost. What Kenan said. You needed to be told what to do! You didn't know where to go, or what to do. Plus when people get in groups they get all weird dumb and need direction.

And consider things from the security guy's POV--how many dozens a people a night try to wander into that place where you were, and he has to move them out. It's sad that he can't consider the specialness each individual's desires and motivations, but really, you're a face in a crowd. (That said, they really should put up a door if they don't want people walking in there. Still, it's not that guy's fault.)

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, there's a kind of class-based horribleness implied in being rude to people who are, to quote Jesse, just doing their job.

I second that emotion.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

If I had gone home after we left the club, I would've been fine. But Dan and Horseshoe and I went to Clark St. Ale House, and I had two beers. 5 gin-and-tonics plus 2 beers = not good news. I don't think I'm a lightweight, but I rarely mix beer and liquor.

Kenan, I realize all that, but I still resist. Even if they're just doing their jobs, I feel like I'm being put in my place, and I hate that.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

(This should all be cross-posted to the "Are you afraid of cops?" thread.)

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Especially when they are doing their job in an efficient and polite manner!

Sorry John, but that's entirely your problem. You can't be a special snowflake all the time.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Lots of times efficiency is synonymous with brusqueness, though. That's usually what bothers me.

Sorry John, but that's entirely your problem.

I totally realize this! I never said it wasn't irrational!

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, this can be your special irrational thing, but keep it to yourself.

You know how you know you're on a date with an asshole? He's rude to the waiter. This never fails.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't aware you had been on so many dates with men.

Btw, the argument with the security guard would've ended a lot sooner if dude had simply said, "Hey I know it doesn't make sense, but this is what I've been told to enforce."

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe they don't pay him enough to be nice to people he doesn't like.

I feel like I'm being put in my place, and I hate that.

That's just whiny. STFU. Your place is where you are, and if you're uncomfortable with it, do something about that. Don't take it out on the staff.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would he not like me?

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

oh no.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Lots of times efficiency is synonymous with brusqueness, though. That's usually what bothers me.

But these people weren't brusque, and you still had a problem with it. It's kind of diva-ish, this not wanting to be put in your place, can we agree on that?

Why would he not like me?

HA HAHAHAHAH!! I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY POSSIBLE REASON!!

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

But these people weren't brusque

What people? At the club last night? I think they were a little brusque, sure. Most people like that are.

It's kind of diva-ish, this not wanting to be put in your place, can we agree on that?

Maybe, or just a natural dislike of feeling humiliated.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It's kind of diva-ish, this not wanting to be put in your place, can we agree on that?

uh... you're talking to john, right? Does he EVER capitulate?

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

a natural dislike of feeling humiliated.

Oh PLEEEEZ. You are not put upon! Nobody else gives a runny shit if being given an order is not quite your style!

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I had been a fully-fledged ILXor when the "How can anyone not like ME?" conversation was in full swing so I could have contributed. It was classic.

But really, why do you think the DMV guard would not like you? Think about it! (Hint: you're another person in a day filled with douchebags trying to question him while he's doing his unsatisfying, annoying, and prossibly underpaying job. He's charged with keeping people from waiting inside, and has no reason to give a shit whether you find that rule sensible or not.)

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The whole of the world would still be here without you, ya know.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Wouldn't "diva-ish" imply that I want special treatment, as though I'm more important, when all I want is to be treated on an equal level?

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU ARE BEING TREATED ON AN EQUAL LEVEL. THAT'S THE WHOLE ARGUMENT.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to say that a security guard or cop who is abusing his authority doesn't merit putting-in-place of their own. But just telling a person to move along does not constitute an abuse of power.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not being treated on an equal level if I'm being barked at and dudes are flexing their power-muscles at me.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

You are like everyone else, you are cattle to be herded by underpaid people who are very nice, considering their job, about herding people like you, who obviously want some kind of love from everyone you encounter, but IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

John, service industry people hate you. This is no mystery.gif.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"Power-muscles" = metaphor

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost OK.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not being treated on an equal level if I'm being barked at and dudes are flexing their power-muscles at me.

We did agree earlier that the security and door people were nice, remember. But the problem was that you like being told what to do. You sound very American.

John is an American. I think that sums it up. (Oh, and John likes pussy and cars.)

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Doorman: "Oh, I think tonight I'll be extra nice to the guy who holds me in mild contempt and questions the whole ritual of tipping or letting your server serve you or even basic politeness. That's What I'm going to do tonight."

I don't hold anyone in contempt unless they've done something to earn it. I tip well, and I'm always nice to servers. I don't understand how any of this applies to me.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

PEOPLE! Let's get 'hold of ourselves! If we Chicagoans can't hang together, we'll hang seperately.

― Jesse, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

WHERE IS THE CHICAGO SCROTUM FOR US TO ALL HANG IN?

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to clarify something. I didn't have a huge problem with the people at the club last night. The dude downstairs raised my ire for a few seconds, but I think I dealt with it well and he didn't give me any more problems. All of the herding outside didn't make me mad or impatient, just uncomfortable about being treated like a body. Not anyone's fault, really. The only reason we're having this conversation is that you guys said they were "polite," and I'm not sure that's the most apt characterization I'd use.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't even there, and the only reason I'm here is because Jaymc's Thing now is to bitch/argue about how he doesn't have to respect or tip the service industry because WAHHHH they don'ttreat him special.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

When on earth have I ever said that?

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You, sir, are even more easily humiliated and touchy than me, and that's quite a thing.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just now realizing that the comment about servers had to do with the whole debate about whether it's okay to go to the bar instead of waiting for your server. I now recognize my error, and I'm not likely to do it again. Please understand, though, that going to the bar was never a "fuck you" to the server, because it simply never occurred to me how that choice could affect her.

I'm sorry I frustrate all of you so often.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

You're fine, John. We all like you a whole lot.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i just bought a new (refurb, whatever) macbook omg omg wooooooo.

hi john.

― JuliaA, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi. :)

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Julia just bought a new computer! W00T!

And... I talked her into buying a Mac, so I'm kinda proud of that. I'm sorry, I'm not a Mac zealot, I swear. It's just that she was always about "Oh shit my drivers aren't compatible what do I do?" and "OhNo crashycrashy Stupid Machine!" and "Guess some friends have to come over and manage my cranky-ass machine because I cannot." No. Fuck that. Julia does not deserve a machine that is just a pile of constant trouble. I like her TOO MUCH to let her buy another PC laptop, which will just be the same thing all over again.

Mwah, Julia. Enjoy the snazziness.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm planning on it! and when i'm waxing poetic about how wonderful my new laptop is, you can gloat. :)

― JuliaA, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Deal.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yall are funny.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still feeling the affects from drinking on Friday night. I swear I've almost passed out like 3 times today.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still feeling the effects from drinking on Friday night, too. But, never fear: PIZZA IS ON THE WAY.

(thx again for inviting us out, EZ... it was fun)

― dan m, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys talk about Friday night like it wasn't last night. Denial?

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant Thursday. See how fucked my brain is?

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

The only thing I did last night was sleep on the couch from about 8 to 10, then go to bed.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

aws. dude, i been there.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, it's weird. When you get those hangovers, you ask yourself, why the fuck did I do this again. The next two days are going to be a complete fucking waste. I should really consider slowing down.

Then that sweet nectar touches you lips the next weekend. Repeat process.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Or the next night. Cycles may vary.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup.

I just posted a cute photo of Kr's eye on WDYLL.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Kenan -- do you want to send me the rest of that C. Veloso album? I have tracks 1, 3, 4, 8, 9, and 11.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

My fantasy baseball draft is in 20 minutes. I always get nervous as hell for these things.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I've finally admitted to myself this year that I don't have time for fantasy baseball.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I started a league at work, mainly because I don't know many of the people I work with. I feel like I should.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus I have an awesome fantasybaseballplayerrankings.xls that I spent 6 hours making last weekend.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I ranked at least a hundred players on 7 different tiers by position. It is color coded. And has macros.

― Jeff, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice.

― jaymc, Saturday, 3 March 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

oof. I just took an involuntary nap. I hate those.

― kenan, Saturday, 3 March 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

So nice when in front of tv and no one else is home...just flip to Natl Geographic special and doze off during commercial breaks.

― Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

A month or two ago I discovered that same 3-for-$25 DVD deal at Blockbuster that Kenan mentioned, and now suddenly I own DVDs for the first time in my life. The buy-two-get-two-free deal is good, too. Apparently they buy DVDs for store credit as well. I like this more than renting.

― Eazy, Saturday, 3 March 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Just had a little involuntary nap of my own... 4.5 hours worth.

OK, I am lying, it was completely voluntary. Just didn't expect it would last that long!

― dan m, Sunday, 4 March 2007 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I pretty much sat around in my boxers all day and downloaded music. It feels like 2005.

― jaymc, Sunday, 4 March 2007 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha! How quickly you revert to single life with a hangover and sans girlfriend.

― dan m, Sunday, 4 March 2007 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been having dreams that are so detailed, they are rob me of my rest. The theme lately has been Outcasts/Impostors, and Finding and Destroying Them.

Last night it was energy waves from a distant galaxy that came to earth and coalesced in the form of a person or object. I accidentally discovered that one way to eradicate them was to take them to a sheet of place glass and break a hole in the glass with them near it. Because--according to my dream voice-over--the Universe has no failsafe against plate glass, the impostors were sucked out of the hole and reabsorbed into the cosmos. I did this with impostor Jesse, as well as impostor chocolates, Chinese food, grouper-skin shoes (yes, the fish--WTF?), water balloons, and a number of other things.

Also there was a camera that recorded experience not just with sound and images, but in every possible other way. It did all this on a standard audio cassette.

― Jesse, Sunday, 4 March 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Not that you care, but this is my blog, you know, so here goes:

The night before I dreamed that I lived in a society where certain people were actively and openly persecuted (only in a dream, I know). I forget what the main difference was in these people, but you could tell who they were because their forefingers had somewhat specialized functionality. The authorities encouraged posses to seek them out to destroy them because their forefingers were said to be wildly dangerous, and these people would use them to kill for amusement, and to commit robberies. There were whole forests in Georgia that people stopped visiting because they were said to be inhabited by these people.

Years passed in the the dream and society changed, and I was talking to one of these people and realized that the forefingers were for the most part good for easily solving math problems and helping people with illnesses feel better.

― Jesse, Sunday, 4 March 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night I dreamed that I was cleaning.

― Jenny, Sunday, 4 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

No dreams for me! FYI!

― Jeff, Sunday, 4 March 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night I dreamt I was blogging.

― dan m, Sunday, 4 March 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Stupid things I have done part 1,000,000,001: I have to do some serious studying today but for some reason, the law library is never quiet enough. So I decided to go to the undergrad library but the undergrad library is less tolerant of coffee. Unwilling to compromise on my need for both quiet and caffeine, I decided to try and sneak a venti Americano into the undergrad library by putting it in my coat pocket. WELL, my coat pocket is deeper than a venti-sized Starbucks cup so when I gingerly placed the cup in my pocket, the lid popped off, leaving me with an unlidded, very very hot cup of coffee in my coat pocket. To make matters more interesting, I was trying to accomplish my coffee heist while in the elevator so when the doors opened, there I was trying to pull a very very hot cup of coffee out of my coat pocket without spilling the coffee or burning my hands. I failed miserably at both and, defeated, just walked into the library carrying a dripping cup of coffee in my bright red and first degree burned hands in full view of St. Vincent, the librarian and everyone. Nobody said anything, probably because they thought I was dangerously insane.

THE END.

― Jenny, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/410375414_dd08d0b56f_m.jpg

How come everything at the gap is $50?

I did not buy this.

― Jeff, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, ragstock is a giant pile of shit. Everything is large or extra large.

― Jeff, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

All those skinny hipsters have bought up everything else.

― Jeff, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff, I didn't respond to your picture message because I couldn't see it! But that is a nice sweater.

― Jenny, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff, I think you're a skinny hipster now.

Jenny, the way you write about your mishaps I like to think you've pulled them off with surly elan. It gives me hope.

― Laurel, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, the way you write about your mishaps I like to think you've pulled them off with surly elan. It gives me hope.

Before you go praising her, consider this conversation

Jen: Did you read about my mishap at the library?
me: yes
Jen: After i did that it hurt so bad I started crying and I was crying so hard that I farted
right in the library
me: really?
Jen: Yes.
I just threw my coffee away and went to Ada's and had 4 gin and tonics.

― Jesse, Sunday, 4 March 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Now if Jenny and I had had that conversation, you might not be so quick to praise her.

― Jesse, Sunday, 4 March 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, Jesse, you don't have despoil all my idols. Leave me something. Also leave Jenny something, something like....I dunno, like a little shred of dignity. Plus, four G&Ts is a good Sunday afternoon's work so I'm still kind of jealous.

Not drinking here, cooking for the next week, dancing to the Go-Betweens in between trying not to ruin the lentils.

― Laurel, Sunday, 4 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously. I mean, why would I walk all the way to Ada's when I could have four perfectly reasonable G&Ts next door at the Exchequer?

― Jenny, Sunday, 4 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

That xpost was designed to point out a fatal flaw in Jesse's narrative.

― Jenny, Sunday, 4 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you walked to Ada's because you were walking around the Loop, sobbing until you finally made found yourself there.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

There was co-operative jackassery at the subway platform tonight. Some jackass was wandering up and down the platform very loudly (and slowly) rapping. If he had been stationary, I would have moved, but he made sure he was inescapable. After a few minutes some other guy stopped him and asked if he wanted to battle. So they had a rap battle. Loudly, and abrasively, of course.

This was obnoxious enough, but after they were done a number of people congratulated them, and there were a couple other guys who were inspired to rap as well. The woman next to me on the seat--a reasonable, normal looking woman in her late 30's--called the original duo over and told them how great they sounded, and how rap was a another form of poetry, and a way that you can make millions.

I longed for the usual chattering crackhead.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

There is not much that bothers me more than people on public transport singing or rapping in full voice. It's much different than buskers. Really, I'd rather be in a car full of Trixies on cell phones, shell-games, and blind guys reciting his litany for change.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Their litanies. I was thinking about one guy in particular.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link

ON THE OTHER HAND-- I've had a chance to think about my reaction to these twats, and they are they price you pay for living in a place that is more interesting than say, Greensboro. These are the kind of urban annoyances I was expecting when I wanted to move to a big city.

Thus have I come to peace with the rappers and my annoyance: we're all a part of the big Circle of City Life.

And note to self: Charge your iPod, dammit.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd love to see an impromptu rap battle on the el platform.

― Jeff, Monday, 5 March 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I probably would have enjoyed the impromptu subway rap battle.

I went and saw Breach tonight, it was exactly the movie I thought it would be. It enjoyed it but sometimes I wish I could avoid all trailers and reviews.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I tried out my singing-along-to-an-ipod idea with some folks today - they were sketpical beforehand and cracking up during. It works to see someone caught up in the energy of something like "Come On Eileen" and trying to sing along with it but without hearing the accompanying music.

After seeing Zodiac today, I'm going to have "Hurdy Gurdy Man" stuck in my head for a while. That song is one hell of a lumbering beast.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

You can do this on Monday night:

http://www.derekerdman.com/ilovemilkshakes/february2007/wusp/chikago_disko_small.jpg

― A Derek Erdman, Monday, 5 March 2007 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy Casimir Pulaski day.

I'd rather see a rap battle than Chikago Disko.

― Jeff, Monday, 5 March 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

As much as I understand how annoying subway platform shenanigans can be when you're not in the mood for them, I think I'd like to see a rap battle, too.

How was Zodiac?

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the main thing that annoyed me was that they had people encouraging them, and the woman saying that rap was a lucrative form of poetry.

One guy said:

Your head's nappy
I'm gonna give you a comb
Then send you home
You shoulda combed your fuzz, Cuz.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Now that's lucrative poetry.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

And like I said, when I was in GSO, this was the sort of urban experience that I would have craved so that I could stow it away for later.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

The night before, Courtney and I were on the train and there was a girl of about 20-24 who was going on and on about her love of Rod Stewart. I think she had just come from a concert (she and her boyfriend both had RS T-shirts on). She was talking to a goth girl about RS, and when the goth girl got off the train, she said, "I don't think she really loved Rod Stewart. Not like we do. No one loves Rod Stewart like we do."

This girl complimented Courtney's purse, then told us, "My Rod Stewart T-Shirt is probably going to get me sooo many free drinks."

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

waht

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Good morning.

I had a great time at S0UNDbar. I could have stayed and danced for a lot longer, but Nick was tuckered out. Saturday I had the biggest hangover ever. I slept until about noon, then never really got the day going. I read (finished The Last Time They Met & started Prep), watched Marie Antoinette (which I really enjoyed), tidied house, and took a long hot bath by candlelight. I only left the apartment once - to walk two blocks to the video store and back.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would I Rod Stewart know how to get free drinks?

Did anyone take Soundbar pics?

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Pleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyes

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse had his cameraphone out, and I think one of EZ's crew did too.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse took a picture of my crotch.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

that'll do, i guess.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I only left the apartment once - to walk two blocks to the video store and back.

This time of year, that's a full, satisfying Saturday for me.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

...until dark.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

my weekend in a nutshell:

friday - went to milwaukee in the snow, saw a fun set from a good band and had an amazing night all the way around. at least until the miller brewing company partnered with gravity to have me meet an icy sidewalk. i slept the sleep of angels friday night.

saturday/sunday- saw busy signals at sub-t, n/a was there as well. i thought they played really well then i paid progressively less and less attention to the bands which was inversely proportional the amount of alcohol i imbibed. i did rally to pay attention to some of the river city tanlines set and i should have paid more attention because they really are fucking good. then i went to an afterparty then i went to breakfast. then i went home and listened to records. then i went to brunch (because of my egg addiction) and had a screwdriver. this continued on for what turned out to be 5 hours in a bar on a sunday afternoon. then i went back to my house so billlisamike could grab their gear that they'd stowed there on friday for their show that night. then i went to the bottle to see that show. c0c0c0ma were really really good, i can't wait for their full length because the songs that are on there are fucking fantastic. then the reigning sound was played and i could only stay for half their set because i started to crash, hard, and was unsure if i'd make it home if i stayed around. reigning sound are touring with keyboards again so there were thick, gluely slabs of hammond organ in all the right places. then i slept for four hours and came to work. and one thing about spending 5 hours drinking skrewdrivers in a bar is that occasionally things will sound like a good idea that really aren't. like knuckle tattoos with sharpies. no matter how much i scrubbed and scrubbed it didn't change the fact that i just came out of a staff meeting with "blow me" across my knuckles. faded, but it's there.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha. I thought the sub-t show was pretty fun but not amazing. Bands like G1to G1to Hustler get on my nerves. Way to play up to the stereotypes, ladies. R1ver C1ty Tanlines were my faves, though I had to leave about five songs into their set because I was too tired. Busy S1gnals were fun but honestly a little monotonous after a while. M0T0 was reasonably entertaining.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

The sound was not great either, the vocals were way too quiet for all the bands.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I was surprisingly productive on Saturday, making it to the downtown library, the art supply store to buy calligraphy pens, the jewelry store to pick up Sarah's wedding ring, and CVS, as well as working with Sarah to address and assemble the wedding invites before making it out to the show. Yesterday was also ridiculously productive, with trips to the gym, Staples and the grocery store all before noon, in addition to doing my Sunday work work and having band practice. I felt really virtuous yesterday afternoon. Then I sat around and read my semi-trashy book most of the evening.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Bands like G1to G1to Hustler get on my nerves. Way to play up to the stereotypes, ladies

yeah, we were talking about this and came to pretty much the same conclusion. my friend todd put forth that they were actually from the detroit suburbs and it was all an act. some inside-joke to see how gullible whitey can be.

also, i can't believe i'm seeing the "monotonous" applied to any band other than moto from that bill.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

HELLO I WILL BE SEEING THE BIZ SIGS IN LESS THAN FOUR WEEKS

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the MOTO gang singing helped them rise above the "vocals way too quiet" problem, whereas Busy Signals were buried by the shitty sound a little. The sound probably didn't interfere with your enjoyment as much since I'm guessing you already know the songs.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

The worst thing about GGH was the five old, sleazy-looking guys in the front row taking 8,000 flash pictures with expensive digital cameras.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

you crazy kids with your rock and roll music.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ "blow me"

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like that one guitarist from BS (the one on the left) was at Hidden Cove one of the times a bunch of us were there.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

hey me too.

one thing from friday: milwaukee has their own versions of friends and acquaintences. there was milwaukee eric from the busy signals, there was milwaukee tom dash (who looked JUST F'ING LIKE HIM), and milwaukee paully rocco. but they were slightly off, a little bit shabbier, all of the dirt but none of the verve.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Bands like G1to G1to Hustler get on my nerves. Way to play up to the stereotypes, ladies

What was their deal?

The pizza place gig on Friday was fine, we played pretty well but it was very much an opening slot. They didn't even turn down the lights when we played. Then I was rude and didn't stay to see any of the other bands, I split to go drink with a couple of friends and eat some ill-advised tacos before going to bed.

Saturday I played in Portage, WI for a bunch of kids and old people. I played drum kit w/Digd0wn, so that was kinda new. Then I went out with a couple of friends and ate an ill-advised (but incredible) bacon bleu cheeseburger before going to bed.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

bizarro jerry?

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

What was their deal?

All-girl Japanese rock group, matching costumes with leopard-print shirts, big fake smiles on their faces as they bopped around. Is it wrong of me to be annoyed by bands like this?

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Hell no it is not.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

the one of the left is kevin and he lives up north so he might have been there. he's also in the krunch13s. he's really fun and funny and probably younger than any of the chilxors.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I did watch a little bit of Scream1n Cyn & the P0n P0ns on Friday, who've been getting a lot of buzz around here. They didn't sound very good to me, but they did have a lot of woodblocks and a half-naked fat dude in leather pants playing a keytar. People go nuts for that shit.

Didn't stay for the Rept0ids.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, Kevin, did GGH finish up the night last time you were at Trash Bar?? That descrip sounds like them, but I have to admit I dug it.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

JORDAN: DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT GET FREE PIZZA!?!?!?!?!?!

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what's awesome? Pumpkin seeds.

But you know I wish? I wish there was a toaster oven here, so I could put soy sauce and salt on them and toast them.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

There should be a board called I Love To Tell People What I Am Eating.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

It's called Ian's blog.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like there was a thread like that at one point, some sort of What you're eating now thread.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm bored. Entertain me. < /jesse >

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone near me is very flatulent. It smells so bad. :(

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

(I posted to it alot, ha ha)

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I totally DID NOT get free pizza!

Except I kinda did, because I stopped by Ev4n's place before the gig and he and his wife had just ordered a pizza from the same place. And then I got to the gig and the guitarist's wife had paid for a sandwich and fries but only ate half the sandwich, giving me the rest. SCORE.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

¿Dónde está Ian's blog?

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

How was Zodiac?

I liked it a lot, especially with the big screen and big sound up in Evanston. Recommended if you liked that photo of the El near Washington & Lake from 1981 that was posted here a few months ago - lots of period detail.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

MOTO is a gang? I thought it was just one dude.

Also, I have been confused whenever Kevin or anyone else has mentioned the Busy Signals, because this is the only Busy Signals I know, and I have been finding it hard to believe that they're the same Busy Signals you know.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

The Century in Evanston is my favorite theater (not) in Chicago. I especially like the way they have a piano bar off to one side.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ha! a smooth, minimal orchestration of sensible pop is not our kevin.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Yesterday was good: Kr and I watched Inside Man (kind of silly but mostly entertaining), did laundry, went grocery shopping, made pizza and soup for dinner, played Scrabble, and then went to Simon's to watch Brighton, MA play a set of mostly covers.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, john -- i haven't forgotten about ysi-ing the whole caetano veloso to you. Maybe I'll put it on the blog tonight for all to sample.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked Inside Man! Because Clive Owen can do no wrong, imo.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh thanks, Kenan. And yeah Clive Owen is always fantastic.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

My downloading spree on Saturday resulted in the new albums by Bloc Party, Arcade Fire, Sea and Cake, A Sunny Day in Glasgow, and Modest Mouse, and I found the rest of the Field Music album (I acquired every song on that album exclusively through mp3 blogs).

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to Trader Joe's for the first time yesterday, it was okay. I was kind of shocked at how the employees were these hardcore TJ party-liner's. I was waiting in line for one cashier and another dude came by and was all "hey buddy, I can get you over here" and took my basket (!). Then he was going on about what good bread I had chosen and how he and his bros would stop by the bakery every time they road tripped out to San Diego. The place only opened a few months ago, where do they find these people???

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... I should get new Sea and Cake. How is it?

(This is where john and i talk about smooth, careful gaywad pop for a moment. Pardon.)

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

That's one thing that I love about TJ's -- the employees are so friendly and talkative.

New Sea and Cake is good -- it's less glossy/synth-y than the last album, and a couple songs actually kind of rock. But I kind of have low expectations for them these days -- it's still not in the same league as their 90s output.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, they get more wallpaper-y all the time

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of hate it. I get weird when I'm shopping, it's strictly business. Unless you're that cute girl at the furniture store.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

and i still listen to them a lot. and have a poster on my wall.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

My most recent successful download: that Marnie Stern album. Recommended for fans of loud, thumpy, spazzy music.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of hate it. I get weird when I'm shopping, it's strictly business.

Recipe for me killing people: 1 middle aged, bored, talkative woman in the grocery checkout line + 1 friendly cashier who is happy to talk to her as much as she likes.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder if there's some TJ rule where they have to converse with the customer, because last time I was there the cashier asked the person in front of me about some product, how they liked it, then he did the same thing to me. Maybe he's just naturally curious though.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh! Back to the food thing for a second. I was going to say that I only really know ONE person who harasses me about not eating organic enough, and that's a loony coworker. But mostly, I get harassed for eating too much or not healthily enough by female coworkers. There's this general assumption that because I'm FEMALE I should constantly be dieting and never, ever, ever have anything remotely fun to eat. I'll be eating, say, a lowfat yog and someone will grab it and talk about how many calories I'm consuming. They don't just pick on me though. They scrutinize everyone's lunches.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Recipe for me making myself hated by the entire office: working with Sarah.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I could go for some toasted pumpkin seeds right about now.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to Wild Oats for the first time in my life last night. Liked the bulk stuff, got good 2-for-1 deals on some things I like. Halfway between the Whole Foods experience and the Dominicks experience.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, Kevin, did GGH finish up the night last time you were at Trash Bar?? That descrip sounds like them, but I have to admit I dug it.

no, that was the baby shakes. who you will also see in 3 weeks. and ggh is playing one of the day shows i think but i don't know. i may skip the friday day show to do some record shopping and/or recovery from thursday.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

SO EXCITED GUYS.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Where is Wild Oats? I have never seen it.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There's this general assumption that because I'm FEMALE I should constantly be dieting and never, ever, ever have anything remotely fun to eat.

There's that extreme, and then there's the woman in my office who apparently lives for her next piece of candy. Of course, only to later bitch about how fat she's getting.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

baby shakes are not from japan and don't do the same schtick as ggh. they are likewise female and fun but i could have more fun with the baby shakes 7"s than i could at another ggh show.

i want doughnuts for lunch today.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It's up in Evanston, on Chicago along the Red Line. I'd seen it a million times but never gone in. I have a feeling they were kind of pre-Whole Foods and got trumped.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

She comes in just about every single day and starts talking about chocolate. "I think we need some chocolate. Hey should I go get some chocolate, guys? It's chocolate time." And worst of all, "Why aren't you guys eating more chocolate?" She is truly a chocoholic, hopelessly addicted and needing eating buddies to validate her habit. And the chocolate is always, always nasty grade-z milk chococrap that is FOR CHILDREN ONLY.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, wasn't sure about the "from Japan" part but I remembered one or more of the members as being Asian -- then again, I was v drunk. Anyway, thanks for encyclopedic knowledge of rock'n'roll bits and bobs.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpost

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I am eating donuts right now. We get free donuts on the first Monday of the month here (ie to impress the new hires).

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the same woman that insists that we all sing Happy Birthday to the cranky-ass IT guy. Like, oh great idea. He's going to really enjoy that.

I have less tolerance for the young-at-heart than I do the young, even.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel bad suddenly. Sarah works with truly awful people, and I work with perfectly nice people who bug the shit out of me because I'M the asshole, not them. :(

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to call my autobiography "Ill Advised Tacos."

I love smooth, careful gaywad pop.

I used to live a half block away from a Wild Oats Vegetarian Market when I lived in Boulder, CO. I love that place. Which red line stop is closest to the Wild Oats of which you speak, Eric?

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

ez, i think wild oats just got bought out by the whole foods giant.

― robotsinlove, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it did.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

OH WELL

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, Jenny. How was Saturday??

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing to do with anything, buuutttt... I listened to Girl Talk on my ipod yesterday at the gym and am now declaring it the ultimate in gym music-listening. There were only about 5 minutes at the end of my workout though that I hated it because it was making me pump those legs, pump those legs, pump those pump those pump those legs when I should have been cooling down. I was too preoccupied to find something else to cool down to and too stubborn to go against the grain of the beats.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Which red line stop is closest to the Wild Oats of which you speak, Eric?

It's the Red Line stop that is not the Red Line now that I think about it but the Dempster stop on the Purple Line.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I wished there was a little whisper telling me where each sample came from. I got almost all of them, but there were a couple that came in and out too quickly for me to identify.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

My latest gym soundtrack is Man or Astro-man?'s Project Infinity. Makes me feel like I could run the treadmill right through the wall, it does.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Last week I was just finishing my time on the elliptical and this Chappelle's Show episode came on where it was only music. I was totally transfixed and had to keep going for another 20 min to catch all the ?uestlove/Badu/Outkast/etc. clips.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting...

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse took a picture of my crotch.

n/a on Monday, 5 March 2007 15:29 (1 hour ago)

I was taking a picture of the lights in the floor and Nick walked his crotch into it. I said, "Hey Nick, your crotch is in my picture." He did not move, so I took the picture, which he deemed "pretty nice."

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan-- what you are saying about TJs is how I feel about the Argo Tea people. Probably a lot of their excessive enthusiasm can be accounted for by their age, but still, they love tea a little too much, and when there is a trainee they introduce that person to their regulars, including stats and interesting factoids about the regular. Also, one guy was describing their walnut cookie-candy things as, "A surprise wrapped in a surpise, covered in chocolate, wrapped in a pretty package!" in a Pollyanna-ish voice that made me want to do something mean and petty to him.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

in a Pollyanna-ish voice that made me want to do something mean and petty to him

haha Like steal his Strawberry Shortcake doll?

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess the part that bothers me the most about the chattiness is that it seems like it must be institutionally mandated. It's Chotchkee's-esque.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Saturday started out scary because I got to the hall first and they said they had no idea what i was talking about w/r/t to the conference with an expected attendance of 120 people. I started to FLIP THE FUCK OUT but then one of our main organizers showed up and sweet talked the guy that I had pretty much managed to alienate and we got the room that we always get. Then none of our morning speakers showed because it was snowy and blowy and social progressives be FLAKY. But it was okay because three of us conference organizers were scheduled to speak so I went a little longer on my opener, and then another organizer spoke about women and the war, and we had a woman from a feminist disability action group who had a lot to say and she was really engaging and she took up a lot of time. And then because the speaker from Apn@ Gh@r didn't show, my friend (who also works for AG) spoke in her place.

Basically, it was one big exercise in rolling with it and not looking panicked in front of a room full of people just because you have no idea which speaker to introduce next.

By the afternoon everything had sorted itself out and we had lots of interesting and engaging speakers and some women from the PRCC almost got into a battle with an old white lady from the League of Women Voters which I, as MC, found hilarious but managed to diffuse with the help of the aforementioned main organizer who is obviously highly skilled it diffusing situations created by her hothead companeras.

Then I drank some TERRIBLE wine that we bought from a convenience store somewhere on Ashland. The wine was displayed on a shelf in between, and I am not kidding here, dusty bottles of hard liquor and cleaning products. I think its placement was editorial.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

haha Like steal his Strawberry Shortcake doll?

No shit. Or ask take a piss in a cup of hot water and tell him it's a lovely Cambodian hand-rolled Citrine with extra anti-oxidants. And to grow a pair and drink some coffee.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

SARAH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Ripper

My Girl Talk samples. Let me show you them.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome. Now I want to listen to the whole album at home with the sheet in hand.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh. Crunch has a special offer--you give them a pack of cigarettes and you can join for only $20. I have a pack of cigarettes and I would like to join a gym. Wouldn't this encourage people to buy cigarettes in order to get a rate cut?

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If the rate cut is worth more than about $6.50? Hell yeah.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I shouldn't have eaten that donut, now I'm not hungry for lunch. By the time I'm hungry I'll have afternoon meetings and won't be able to go.

This can only be solved by more donuts.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The best part of Sister Ray is about 5 minutes in, when John does something weird to his organ, like maybe shares some of his speed with it, and it just goes into NOIZE OVERDRIVE and it's like, wow, you're loud, dude.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of cigarettes, i ran across the street to buy a pack of smokes for me and a fudge round for my friend lisa and the total, TOTAL was four dollars twenty five cents. then the dude told me about the buy two get one free deal so i bought 3 packs of smokes for $8.69. THEN the free cigarette guy was at subt on saturday so i wound up with 5 packs of cigarettes in my coat.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

er, all that happened in milwaukee. cheap smokes, plenitful beer, cheese everything. had fun.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

milwaukee rulez

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess the part that bothers me the most about the chattiness is that it seems like it must be institutionally mandated. It's Chotchkee's-esque.

I think the degree to which it's "institutionally mandated" is partially that they literally tell employees to converse with the customers, but partially that they only hire people who are naturally friendly and social. All of my interactions with TJ's employees have felt very natural, not forced, not like they're reading from a script, and only a couple of times have I felt like the person was too chatty in an annoying way (it's mostly from slightly older dudes who look like they live alone with their Star Wars figurines). Most of the time, it's just a pleasant interaction.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, what is Chotchkee's?

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think the Argo folks' chattiness is institutionally mandated for 2 reasons: first, they sound completely sincere, and genuinely eager, and second, when I worked at Starbucks for 2 weeks, a lot of the staff there was like this, and it was annoying!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/office_space/_group_photos/jennifer_aniston2.jpg

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

John, have you seen Office Space? If not, we'll defer this conversation until you have.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Such a good movie.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I have seen the movie, yes, but I don't tend to watch movies multiple times, so I apologize that the name of the TGIF knockoff restaurant that Aniston works at slipped my mind seven years later.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

TGI Friday's, I meant. You knew that.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think that apology sounded very sincere, John.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I just didn't want to get into one of those, "Why would I ever have seen Office Space?" conversations.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

John, you don't have enough pieces of flair.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

A girl I dated once emailed me for the first time with a subject line of "PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean?" and I nearly fell in love right then and there.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I still want a Jump to Conclusions mat.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey hotbeatz! About your photos...

You've run into one of the limits of a free account. Your free account will only display the most recent 200 photos you've uploaded. All of your photos beyond 200 will remain hidden from view until you either delete newer photos, or upgrade to a Pro account.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/410940369_d6c727692b.jpg?v=0

:(

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

At my work this summer we had an actual TPS report, though I never did figure out what it was. I thought it was a joke at first, but no, it's real.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a conference room here called "Office Space" with a framed (joke) TPS report.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, a Pro account is only $25 a year.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think that apology sounded very sincere, John.

Jenny on Monday, March 5, 2007 12:22 PM (2 minutes ago)

----

I just didn't want to get into one of those, "Why would I ever have seen Office Space?" conversations.

Jesse on Monday, March 5, 2007 12:22 PM (2 minutes ago)

That's why the apology didn't sound sincere.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

somebody needs to dust.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i am going to tell a porn store story because where do you tell such things if not ilx.

a sort-of-friend in rather desperate financial straits is working at a porn store for a while. it sounds draining and creepy, but she ends up with stories (which i can't tell nearly as well). anyway.

this big burly guy came in the other day and was looking for a suction-cupped dildo. they found a big one for him and he needed to show id to buy it, so he unzipped his hoodie to get his id. underneath, he was wearing nothing but a very lacy bra with silicone inserts to fill it out, with plentiful and dark chest hair all around. hey, another day at the porn store. he then proceeded to ask about how effective the suction cup base was, so they affixed it to the counter and he proceeded to nudge it and move it around until it was clear that it was very firmly anchored. and so he bent over and deepthroated it.

he explained after that he wanted to make sure that he could, since the other time he'd been able to deepthroat, the penis in question had cum (cummed?) before he could really get into it, and so he was unsure of his abilities.

― JuliaA, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess I'll do it, although I haven't been taking many pictures since the screen on my digital camera broke.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

also, in my experience, office space is best seen more than once.

― JuliaA, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

to cum
he came
she came
we came
he had come

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahaha i was just going to say something about how it would be bugging me for a while now, the varieties of congugation of the verb "to come" in that particular context.

― JuliaA, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I love that episode of Chappelle's Show, Jordan. Erykah Badu's performance of "I Want You" is the greatest thing.

― horseshoe, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Totally. Is it included in any of the box sets?

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

the penis in question had cum (cummed?) before he could really get into it, and so he was unsure of his abilities

I dunno... I'd call that positive feedback.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's part of the season 2 DVD set. which I have at home, so I should really know for sure.

― horseshoe, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The episode "Music Jump-Off" which featured Chappelle visiting his old high school, The Duke Ellington School of the Arts, intercut with previously unaired skits and musical performances did not make either DVD set.

:( ?

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a job at a porn store once, but since I hadn't really looked for a job and didn't really need money, I decided to just look for another job. But a 50% discount on porn would have been nice. And all the interesting people!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Who pays for porn anymore?

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

why wouldn't they include that on the DVD set? bastards!

― horseshoe, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, so igo cars are $6/hour + .50/mile + one-time fee of $75 and $25 annual renewal. There are 3 locations within as many blocks of my house.

Zipcar is $9/hour, includes 125 miles per day, $50 per year. Cheaper in the long run, but their cars are considerably farther away.

I think igo wins.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I just saw this, and it's awes.

http://a788.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/53/l_1c45c779bab1bf08507197bdb6e9f0a3.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

is it just me, or is ben kinda hot?

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the hair.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

hooray salt and pepper!

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha. I look like crap in that picture. We were so so so so so so so fucking cold.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, nobody contradict me or anything, that's cool.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Just kidding, I know I have a raw ham head in that photo.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a great pic!

― JuliaA, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that was an xpost

― JuliaA, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

You all look fine, except for the blood being driven out of your faces by advanced hypothermia. Except for that, it's cool.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at "raw ham head"

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

The Fake F1ctions, 'Raw Ham Head'

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Who pays for porn anymore?

The porn at the front of the store is just a loss-leader. It's the suction-cupped dildos (and the accompanying service plans) that bring in the real income.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

service plans?

― JuliaA, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, that FFs photo is fantastic.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i also am curious about these service plans.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just taking the business strategy for Best Buy and applying it to the sex shoppe.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"5 year/50,000 mile warranty"

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Eazy, what is your 'singing to an iPod' scam exactly?

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone signed up a guy I knew in college, let's call him Joe Levine, for a million catalogs and mailing lists, all to be sent to "Joe Levine's Sex Shoppe".

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Eazy, what is your 'singing to an iPod' scam exactly?

Wear headphones, sing a song you love. Onstage, or in a living-room parlor after dinner. You're singing along with the song, but the rest of us only hear your voice or watch you nod during the long instrumental parts.

Folks yesterday kept asking how it's different than karaoke, but when you're watching it, it's an entirely different and very funny thing.

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I do not wish for people to see me doing that. But if I'm up really late and afraid I'll bug the neighbor, I do it.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

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HAM
WATER

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

So we were going to hang onto our apartment for another year because we have too much shit to deal with this year with the wedding and all. But now they want to raise our rent again (not by a huge amount, but it makes the total a little ridiculous) and I'm wondering if it's insane to try and move now.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it probably is.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

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― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

planning a wedding is stressful enough! a rent raise is a pain in the ass, but it seems worth it to postpone moving for a year.

― JuliaA, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I see this all the time in real life. In the office, on the street, esp. at the gym.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? Singing aloud in public is NOT COOL. I thought everyone knew that.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It's insane, Nick. For ex., Ev4n wanted to have a crawfish boil the day after his wedding. Planning a crawfish boil is complicated enough without tossing it on top of a WEDDING. Moving is about twice as insane.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

nick, if you can pack your shit moving at the end of march isn't too bad. last year i moved in february and it sucked because there was snow all over the sidewalk making moving furniture from the truck to the spiderhole that much more difficult. before that i moved in the beginning of march, at night, and it wasn't so bad. the move before that was the week between xmas and new years. it was single degree weather and windy as hell and me and the woman got into a crankypants arguement.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

There are items in my house that I don't even want to think about moving. Like our couch, and the sideboard (or to me, the thing our TV sits on).

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? Singing aloud in public is NOT COOL. I thought everyone knew that.

I KNOW!! And people do this at the library all the time. Kind of missing the point of headphones, if you're simply relaying what you're hearing from your ears through your mouth!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I figure the arrangement with headphones is, "Don't bother me, I won't bother you."

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i have a sleeper sofa that weighs roughly 85,000 lbs. and the king sized bed is a bitch to move. in the previous apartment, we had a cast iron bed frame from the 1880's, the siderails alone were hernia inducing and the headboard and the footboard (is that what it's called?) were so awkward and heavy to move.

hire movers.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

[Removed Illegal Link] the B96-related project I mentioned when we were originally talking about EZ's singing-with-an-iPod idea:

LUCKY PIERRE SPEAKS URBAN FORMAT RADIO
(2002) Lucky Pierre and over 40 guest performers, artists, friends, and colleagues gathered at a sound studio where radio station B-96 (96.3 FM) “Chicago’s Dance Beat,” was re-recorded live for 24 hours. Listening through headphones, guest performers repeated/interpreted the radio station’s words, music, commercials and DJ banter – all of which were recorded onto CD. At the end of the 24 hours, a 24-volume CD set had accumulated. Portions of this piece have been re-broadcast throughout the United States and Europe.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What Kevin said. HIRE MOVERS. Even if you just hire day laborers (much cheaper--Jenny can tell you how to find them) you're gonna be glad you did.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that link was illegal because it had an apostrophe in it. At any rate, Here IS that project.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i've had more luck with hiring movers through craigslist than i have with moving companies. they were cheaper and faster.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Annoying boob-job bleach-blonde way-too-old-to-be-wearing-that woman just spotted my pumpkin seeds and said, "Ooh, can I have some?" "Of course!" "Wait a minute... are these fattening?" Picks up the bag. "Oh, they are!" Waffles for a moment. "Well I'll just have a few."

Eating disorder, anyone?

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

We probably won't be moving now.
However:
Do you all think I should question why our landlord is raising our rent? They haven't updated the apartment at all in the three years we've been there, and even refused to install a dishwasher even though the other units in our building have dishwashers. And the other units have an incredibly high turnover rate (I don't think anyone has stayed more than a year in any of the other apts in the time we've been there), meaning we're their only steady residents. It's not so much about the rent increase as it is that I would like them to do some stuff to make the rent increase worth it (like installing a dishwasher).
This will probably just start trouble though.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

They don't have to have a reason, I believe. Every landlord can raise it a certain percentage by law. Inflation and all that crap.

― Jeff, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick, do it. These are not unreasonable things. Asking for more money without providing any additional services is. It seems kind of obvious that they are doing it because they see other people in your neighborhood paying more money for places. If they want to make more money that way, they should sell their building.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

landlord will just say it's to cover an increase in property tax or whatever. are any of the utilities your landlord's responsibility? my current landlady keeps making noise about the increase in the cost of water and our rents. fuck that, i'll move before i pay more here. i'm getting EXACTLY what i pay for.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

We pay all utilities except water.

Personally, I think they can raise the rent all they want. That doesn't mean I can afford to stay there though.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Back to that pic... That was the day that it was CRAZY OUT THE ASS INSANE cold. When I first left the apartment, I imagined I'd be throwing off my coat for the photo shoot, like a true Top Model. Instead I froze my ass off, even all bundled up.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh. Paying for heat suuucks. I am so glad I don't pay for heat, water, or hot water. I only pay for cooking gas (just the stove, no other gas) and electricity. Pretty sweet.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That was the day that it was CRAZY OUT THE ASS INSANE cold

It was that cold for like two weeks, iirc.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

jeff's right, they can raise it on a percentage basis in chicago every year. and they don't need a reason. but if you guys have been the only steady tenants then maybe something could be worked out.

also, those two new condo developments on the northeast and southeast side of the division/leavitt intersection are bumming me the hell out now that they are taking shape and are obviously new construction pieces of shit.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Eric - that's one of the photos that Nolan took, BTW.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just saying, it's like buying a car or anything else. The person sets their price, you can counter. Maybe it goes nowhere, maybe not, but if you don't try they will always take the higher dollar amount.

When my friend Andrew moved to the city he offered every landlord $75 less than they were asking, and half of them took it with little hesitation. He ended up getting a really nice place in the Square for just over $600.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Buster: I’m so hungry.

Lindsay: Would you like to try some of this?

Buster: It’s so watery. And yet there’s a smack of ham to it.

Lindsay: It’s hot ham water.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you know that on Firefox you can the "?" key and it does the same thing as hitting Ctrl+F?

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i talked down my place on augusta blvd $50 and the guy accepted it so fast that i felt like a sucker not asking for a larger amount. we also talked the dude down on our 3 bedroom on austin but then gave it all back when he found out we had a dog.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Because having someone living there paying rent is a lot better in most landlord's books than having it empty while trying to find someone new.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Good to know that's Nolan's photo - I have to see if any of the ones he took of me last summer turned out.

John - funny, I just read about that B96 show (for my work) in the past month - it's very much the same idea.

Yesterday i was trying to sing along with Otis Redding's "Tramp" and it must've seemed nuts. Someone said, "What was that rap song?"

― Eazy, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you know that on Firefox you can the "?" key and it does the same thing as hitting Ctrl+F?

I did not know that! Very cool. You r a power user!

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I just the "?" key and all it did was make a question mark. Whut r I doing wrong???

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Seymour Skinner: Superintendent, I hope you're ready for mouth-watering hamburgers.
Superintendent Chalmers: I thought we were having steamed clams.
Seymour Skinner: Oh, no, I said steamed hams. That's what I call hamburgers.
Superintendent Chalmers: You call hamburgers steamed hams?
Seymour Skinner: Yes, it's a regional dialect.
Superintendent Chalmers: Uh-huh. What region?
Seymour Skinner: Uhh ... Upstate New York.
Superintendent Chalmers: Really? Well, I'm from Utica, and I've never heard anyone use the phrase 'steamed hams.'
Seymour Skinner: Oh, not in Utica. No, it's an Albany expression.
Superintendent Chalmers: I see.

[Chalmers bites into a steamed ham.]

Superintendent Chalmers: You know, these hamburgers are quite similar to the ones they have at Krusty Burger.
Seymour Skinner: Oh ho ho, no. Patented Skinner burgers. Old family recipe.
Superintendent Chalmers: For steamed hams ...
Seymour Skinner: Yes ...
Superintendent Chalmers: Yes, and you call them steamed hams despite the fact that they are obviously grilled.
Seymour Skinner: You know I— One thing I sh— Excuse me for one second.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't have your cursor in the response box.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

That would have been better as

"I just the "?" key and happened. Whut r I doing wrong???

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I tried it with my cursor out of the response back, and it still didn't open up Find. But the great thing about Find on Firefox is that once you open it, it's always there at the bottom of your screen, and it's so unobtrusive you don't ever need to close it.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched a new episode of the Simpsons last night. It was sooooooooooooo bad. :( Even the animation is worse.

― n/a, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched that episode, too! In fact, I even got a few chuckles from it. Not peak-level but certainly not terrible.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse's post is a little misleading. What you want to hit is forward slash. Same key, no shift.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeh, you're right. You can see why I might think it is the ? mark though, I guess. Or maybe not. I don't know.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

No Simpsons arguments, PLEASE!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay! Boo! Yay, yay! Boo!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't actually confused, I was just shittly making fun of Jesse's typos.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how you're being all "don't talk about X!" today when you were the one who goaded me into a conversation that nobody actually wanted to have on Saturday morning.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's talk about X, baby.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what? It sucks that there aren't any great apartments in Lincoln Square because I love that little 'hood.

What did we discover is the name for that neighborhood just to the south of Roscoe Village? Where Hamlin Park is?

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

We saw some pretty good ones in lincoln square. ~$800 a month.

― Jeff, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I would actually still call that Roscoe Village. It's too far north to be Bucktown.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

hamlin park is up on damen around addison or belmont, i like it up there but dear god i hate the traffic flow up there. it's nice sarah, if you're looking for roscoe village-y it should be agreeable.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hamlin Park is actually on Damen between Wellington and Barry.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry sarah, i was off two blocks in my belmont estimate.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Although I once told a passerby that it was at Damen and Belmont, but I was thinking of that other little park there. Actually, I didn't even say Damen and Belmont, I said "a couple blocks up, a couple blocks over" because I was caught off-guard. When people ask me for directions, I have to act quick, and so sometimes I later realize that I could have been more specific, and I beat myself up over it. Like "No you dummy, from here Devon is two miles, not a mile and a half."

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, I only corrected you because a) I wanted to make sure you weren't thinking of the same little park that I was thinking of, which is not Hamlin Park, and b) if it were somewhere between Belmont and Addison, then it *definitely* would be considered Roscoe Village. Sarah wasn't asking where Hamlin Park is, she was asking what the area was called. If it's at Wellington, then I should think there would still be some debate about that.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The one at Belmont/Damen is Fellger Playlot Park.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I live in Logan Square. If I lived on the other side of Diversey I would live in Avondale. I don't think about this a lot, though.

Hey, you know what I discovered last night? The chinese/sushi place Papajin delivers all the way from Wicker Park to my house, and even farther north and west! I am going to abuse the shit out of this, I have a feeling.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

reason #908273 I miss my old apartment and landlady: she's the only one who can get away with sending me email forwards without incurring my wrath

It has been scientifically proven that if we drink 1 liter of water
each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of
Escherichia coli (E. coli) bacteria found in feces. In other words, we are
consuming 1 kilo of Poo.

However, we do not run that risk when drinking wine (or rum, whiskey,
beer or other liquor) because alcohol has to go through a purification
process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting.

WATER = Poo

WINE = HEALTH

Ergo: It is better to drink wine and talk stupid than to drink water
and be full of crap.

There is no need to thank me for this valuable information;
I am doing it as a public service.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you for your thorough explanative posts john, as always, a treat.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, what is people's deal with me today?

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

So, apparently there ARE a ton of cheap apartments up in Lincoln Square, but I just didn't notice any of them on craigslist because I was being snobby and only looking at ads with pix.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, what is people's deal with me today?

Ha. What is our problem? Today?

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I just ate a big bowl of lima beans. Because lima beans are delish.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, sometimes with you I feel like I'm on an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, except not funny at all, where every rule of etiquette or code of behavior that I unwittingly defy makes you apoplectic.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what Kevin's problem is.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I went home and ate TJ's hot dogs and guacamole chips. Neither were very good.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

OKAY GUYS, STOP FIGHTING AND HELP ME OUT WITH THIS:

While driving through Waunakee, WI on the way back from a gig on Saturday, I saw a sign in front of US Bank that read the following:

"OSAMA SAYS, WALK LIKE AN EGYPTIAN"

WTF does it mean??!

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

That's deep, man.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

What?

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

BETSIMPSIER

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Really makes you think, eh?

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Fine then, screw you too.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

What? I was talking about the sign.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Wisconsin is chock full of such roadside riddles.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

John, sometimes I wonder if you ever listen to yourself, because for a person who I wd normally expect to be very cognizant of sub-text & implication, you've got a genius for making giant assumptions implicit in what you write and then basing your logic on said assumptions. That's what people are reacting to.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Our little online society, it's crumbling!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Quick, everybody! Turn your face into a heart!

http://www.cocodowley.com/cards/lovefriend/thumbnails/Fun-Face-Heart.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://staffweb.wylieisd.net/staff/brittanys/images/sweethearts/clip%20art/heart%20face.gif

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I ate a whole can of lima beans. Anybody got a motherfucking PROBLEM with taht??

I didn't think so.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Bitches.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/9_339a.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't do this. Not today. Not on Hump Day. Not in the sunshine.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/LimitedLiabilityGirl/FaceHearter.jpg

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have a problem john, i realize we're all different. i enjoyed, thoroughly, each and every one of your informative posts. in the past they have always brought me great joy and look forward to savoring them in the future.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://school.elps.k12.mi.us/donley/classrooms/berry/sitton_spelling_activities/5thgrade_spelling/unit_17/heart_head_nod_yes_hg_clr.gif

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^LOLZ

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

[img]http://www.chocolatefantasies.com/EatYourHeartOutPenis.jpg[/img]

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Hump day? MAN, I overslept.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chocolatefantasies.com/EatYourHeartOutPenis.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Just what we needed: choco-cock

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Son of a bitch. You're right. It's not even Hump Day. As if that means anything to a waiter. Today is actually kind of my Saturday.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Still, I can't believe I thought it was Wednesday!!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't stop laughing at apprehensivehearthead.gif

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It's kind of nodding along to the ODB track I'm listening to.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

[image]http://www.weirdspot.com/images/uploads/2mice.jpg/[image]

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just dumb.

http://www.weirdspot.com/images/uploads/2mice.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry sarah, i was off two blocks in my belmont estimate.

This seemed a little sarcastic to me. I wasn't positive it was sarcastic, but just in case, I figured I should explain myself so Kevin didn't think I was being needlessly pedantic, as a way of apology. Then he countered with...

thank you for your thorough explanative posts john, as always, a treat.

...which *definitely* seemed sarcastic. I'm not sure what I did wrong here.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i enjoyed, thoroughly, each and every one of your informative posts. in the past they have always brought me great joy and look forward to savoring them in the future.

OK case in point.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw! That's adorable despite the copulation.

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

ENRIQUE: I HAVE A SMALL PENIS

Spanish singer ENRIQUE IGLESIAS has dismantled his hunky image - he's confessed to having a small penis.

The HERO star - boyfriend of gorgeous Russian tennis player ANNA KOURNIKOVA - made the shocking admission when asked whether he would ever pose naked on one of his album covers.

He candidly answered, "Maybe I have not got the biggest penis in the world. Maybe if you had the biggest penis in the world, you would sell records.

"But I don't. I could actually have the smallest penis in the world out there."

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel: I backtracked your headshot pic, and I must say that plate of penguin hors d'oeurve is adorable.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't care. He's still A-dorable.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh... (weird) xpost!

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah. One of my aunts made them for Christmas dinner. Unfortunately they didn't taste as good as they looked, but I think quality Kalamata olives and some different choices of cheese spread might fix that.

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

So this has been all over the internets, but in case you guys missed it, it's funny:

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/%7Edeg28/homegirls2.jpg

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this where the expression "it's all that ... and a bag of chips" came from? Or is Homegirls merely referencing it? I think I first became aware of the catchphrase somewhere around 1995.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, was that too "informative"?

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

It's no Rap Snacks.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, is that REAL??

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

li'l johnnie thinskin.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm hungry for Homegirl chips now. :-(

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know how real it is. It made Reddit, I think. At least that's where the dude I got the link from said it was. If it's on there it'll be on 99% of blogs before long.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I was at Timothy O'Tooles the other night and what follows is a close approximation of what I found on their menu (under the section of Guiness-based drinks, including the Black-and-Tan and the Shandy)

[Name of drink]- Women have been putting blackberry in their drinks a lot these days, so we tried putting blackberry liquer in our favorite black beer, and we found that women are now ordering Guinness not only because it's the thing to be seen with, but because they think it tastes great this way!

WWWWWTTTTTFFFFF

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

A couple of waitrons at the place used to work were big on putting Chambourd into Guinness.

GUH ROSS

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

the place I used to work

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

That's weird.

What's a fair price to sell a 3 year old (20 gig) iPod for?

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i used to go to o'tooles all the time when i worked in streeterville. i think i turned 30 there.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm... with the necessary cords and such? $100? I dunno. What are they going for on Ebay?

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

$50?

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I admit that I'm thin-skinned, but I don't see why that gives you the right to be an asshole for no good reason.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I found one on craigslist just now for $75, but it included i-trip.

― KitCat, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

man i wish that killfile worked for ie ;_;

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure you do.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

cause those louis jagger posts, they're doing a number on me.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess $50 is the going rate, esp. since mine is way used.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

My point was not at all about putting blackberry liqueur into Guinnes, but the fact that they thought it was good copy! I mean, the women I know like Guiness and DO NOT order anything because it's "the thing to be seen with."

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I would keep it, enable it for disk use, and have it as a backup hard disk.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

How do I shot disk use?

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to hang out at O'Toole's when I worked on the boat. But then my drinkenfriend got permanently kicked out because he gave a busser some coke (left a line on the toilet tank). A guy tried to sell me opium outside of there once, too.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmmm... you have a PC, right? That might make it harder, unfortunately. I think the control for turning it on and off is in iTunes. It's pretty sweet if you can get a command-line going, then you can move files onto and off of it pretty easily. You can do that on a Mac really simply.

I wish I was nerdier than I actually am, then I'd know how/if to make this work.

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never really been interested in the killfile (not conducive to the spreadsheet LOL), but I am beginning to understand its potential now. I like using ILX to keep me happy and sane while I sit in this quiet cubicle doing work, but I don't like when it riles me up to the point that I find it difficult to do that work. The only reason I haven't dropped this is because people's unwillingness to confront me to directly on any of this is making it really hard to concentrate on anything else.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cat_proximity.png

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

lol I tell my kitty that she's a kitty. Sometimes I add an intensifier. "You're SUCH a kitty."

― kenan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

WHO WANTS A KITTY BURRITO?

― Laurel, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

WHO'S A LITTLE FUZZY HEAD? WHO IS!? YOU ARE! YOU ARE A LITTLE FUZZY HEAD!!

(note: I am not always this big a dork with the cat)

― dan m, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I forget to talk to my cats sometimes. I got out of the habit because my main cat (the kitten is the auxiliary cat) is half-deaf.

When I do I alternate between "Who's a good little Kitka? YOU'RE a good little Kitka!" and "You sneaky little motherfucker."

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I should probably stop reloading this thread, huh?

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

John! Just in case you read my "that apology doesn't seem very sincere" comment as conveying real disappointment in a perceived lack of sincerity on your part and that made you feel bad and a little more sensitive to off-handed message board comments then usual, I'm sorry. I was 100% joking, because I could totally tell that you WEREN'T sincerely apologizing for not having watched Office Space in seven years, nor did I think you needed to be. I read your comment as funny (in a "Well, excuuuuuuuse me!" kind of way), and responded in a way that I thought was funny (in a deadpan kind of way), so I'm sorry if I ruined anything.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Reload once more!

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, I totally didn't read your comment in that way!

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, good.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It was pretty obvious that my apology was insincere, but I wasn't sure if you knew why it was (i.e., Jesse's ongoing frustration with me).

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, our conference got some press time from WBEZ. They interviewed one of the organizers and ran it in the news on Saturday morning, and they taped the conference and are interviewing two of our speakers tomorrow. Neat-o!

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, yeah, I got the joke! I thought it was pretty funny, actually.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/morganzola/mkaparis.jpg

YIKES.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It took me a second to realize that those weren't Halloween costumes.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

OH ALSO! I watched The Aristocrats last night and I now love Bob Sagget even more than I did before. The fact that he was being a filthy dirty horrible person was great, but the fact that he seemed amazed by his capacity for utter filth was just adorable.

He remains my "Barf or Bone" choice.

HOWEVER - why did Drew Carey get so skinny? That was disappointing.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I would bet that seeing them in person dressed like that would be disorienting because aren't they like four feet tall or something?

I will say, however, that I appreciate their unwillingness to continue to play up the "We are hot twins who might accidentally start fucking any second!" role in which they were regularly cast as minors. You know, like with the joined-at-the-head gross underaged sultry slattern look.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Was he noticeably skinnier, or was it just that he wasn't wearing his thick glasses?

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I ATE A HALF A BAG OF JELLY BELLIES IN CLASS WITH LESLIE TODAY AND NOW I AM CHATTY ON SUGAR AND WHATEVER CHEMICALS ARE IN JELLY BELLIES.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the joined-at-the-head gross underaged sultry slattern look

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Goth Olson twins r freaking me out.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, he wasn't wearing his glass (boo) AND he was noticably slimmer (also boo).

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG John! I saw a discovery or TLC or something special about those girls. It's preeeeeeety kooky.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually just watched the movie a week ago, since Kr hadn't seen it, and I definitely didn't enjoy it as much the second time around, because I *knew* how horribly filthy it was and I shuddered knowing what was coming.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

did you get my message???

my voicemail!?

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit, I meant to type that in an IM, but did it here and pressed send.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did you ask me that here when I'm on IM with you?

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was funnier the second time knowing what I was in for, but then I was also really, really high.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So in theory I should really be able to get into the Black L1ps, but this new live record is leading me to believe not. The recording sounds rather thin and more like something that you "just had to be there" to appreciate.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I just don't think I would want to live their life! I'm sorry, but NO.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost, obviously.

I'm commenting more on my own attitudes toward life than what the value of their life is. I guess you get used to things, but if I had to choose between being a conjoined twin and death, death would look pretty attractive.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This day. I tell ya what. Two people were laid off in my department. Cutbacks. I make little enough that I can stick around. Still, puts the fear of god in you.

Also, I found out that I apparently owe the gas company close to 600 dollars for gas I wasn't using. Three of the months they were billing me for, the building wasn't even there. A-fucking-mazing. Hell will be raised.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

RAISE HELL.

I just got a gas bill for the first time in...well I think since before I got back from NO. It's only $123.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's 11:30 P.M. Guess what I'm boiling.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Give up??

Well, I'll tell you--I'm boiling collard greens and smoked pork neck bones! (I'm excited, I think after a lot of turmoil (New Orleans, getting settled back in, family stuff), I'm finally getting back into my nesting groove.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, I'm coming over.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

(Ooops. I thought Jenny boiled hers for 1 hour, but Cooks.com say 2 hours. It's gonna be a long, stinky evening. (That's what *he* said, heh, heh.)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, hi Jordan. I didn't see your xpost.

Wanna come over for that long, stinky evening?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had turkey necks but I don't think I've ever had pork necks!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Ever since I read a bunch of Bukowski, "turkey neck" has meant something very special and not literal to me.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

For your discussioning pleasure in the morning:

Marie Antoinette: V. Disappointing.

Could Sofia Coppollaa have withheld action any more? It's very well to make a contemplative, mood-driven movie (e.g., Lost in Translation) but this movie was nigh bloodless! And I mean that in every sense--there was one moment when I thought it might shift gears from Opium-Daze to French-Revolution, but the mob went off only for a minute.

The pace lacked variety; the long shots, clips of dialogue cut short, and sort of negative-space presentation of action or high drama--the storming of the Bastille, Marie and Louis' wedding--all of these grew tiresome for me, especially in light of LiT.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

V. Disappointing?

― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Man that's what I loved about that movie, it was just this long slow burn of a movie. I was too busy eating up the colors and scenery to care about action I guess. I just liked the way that, rather than having her be the center of history, it was sort of just happening on her periphery. Made it more believeable as a story about a girl way out of her element, I thought. I don't know though, I seem to be the only one of my friends that really loved that movie.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I moved it to the top of our queue so Jeff and I can weigh in as soon as the postal service works its magic. I'm going to bet that I'll like it for three reasons: I like the music; I love overblown costume-centric period pieces; I love the French Revolution.

Jesse, is that your review or did you copy/paste that? Because it doesn't sound like you and I didn't think you liked Lost in Translation that much.

I don't know how long I boil collards for. A long fucking time. Another tasty trick is to toss some chicken bullion cubes in there. Salty! (My grandmother made collards over Christmas and they were very salty and flavorful and when I asked her how she made them she said, "Salt pork and seven bullion cubes." Then we all had myocardial infarctions.)

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked it a lot too, and jon pretty much addressed my views on it. I can understand someone viewing it as "actionless," and my main problem with it was the pacing (the end seems really sudden), but I think any problems of the movie were a result of Coppola succeeding at making the movie she wanted to make, if that makes any sense. Basically, her goal was to present the story from Antoinette's view, no matter how isolated and unrealistic her view is, and I think she totally succeeded in doing that and that it was an interesting concept. This may have resulted in some flaws from a full, "cinematic" POV or whatever but I'd rather watch a flawed but fully-realized movie than some "historic" movie that ostensibly presents an objective view but fails at completely presenting any POV at all.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Four reasons: I love reading/watching history from specifical individual POVs, particularly women.

Speaking of women, what is a female equivalent of "bro down." Something that's as catchy but isn't derrogatory. So like not "split tail conspiracy." And "girls night" is kind of insipid. Is it possible in this world of hierarchical gender to come up with a feminine term with all the positive connotations of "bro down"?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, that's kind of funny that you bring that up. My fiancee and her friends were trying to come up with such a term for a bachelorette party they are planning for this weekend. No such luck so far.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

In my mind "bro down" has just as many negative connotations as positive ones. Think of all the douchebag date rapist frat boys who have uttered those words.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ditto. Also, the special features on the dvd were great. You must watch the faux MTV cribs on Versailles, even though it's exactly as you'd imagine it would be.

Also, Jon, I can understand why hearing the Black 1ips live album might not be a great introduction to them. I've only seen them play once, but they were really great and you totally felt like you were a part of it. So, in conclusion, go see them live.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

In fact I can't remember a time in recent history when I've said "bro"-anything un-ironically.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny: I vote for "grill up".

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

even though it's exactly as you'd imagine it would be.

Does Marie A. show us where the magic happens?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Louis XVI does (Jason Schwartzman). He's pretty funny.

Last night's How I Met Your Mother episode was full of bro'-isms.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Grill up... that's a contender.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

This lipstick I just put on Olsonizes my face. NO!!!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Sofia C's "POV" was of a 21st-century club kid. What a waste.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

But the costumes were pretty, right?

Olsonizes? Do you mean makes you look like a tiny vampire?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Powder the carpet.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Girl Down
Girl Boom
Grill Up

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Jenny. I look dead, anyway.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Sofia C's "POV" was of a 21st-century club kid. What a waste.

I agree with the first half of this statement and disagree with the second.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, is that your review or did you copy/paste that? Because it doesn't sound like you and I didn't think you liked Lost in Translation that much.

I don't know how long I boil collards for. A long fucking time. Another tasty trick is to toss some chicken bullion cubes in there. Salty! (My grandmother made collards over Christmas and they were very salty and flavorful and when I asked her how she made them she said, "Salt pork and seven bullion cubes." Then we all had myocardial infarctions.)

1- I wrote it all by myself. And I LOVED Lost in Translation

I love a lot of "slow" movies. LiT, All the Real Girls, Bubble, Elephant. Just not this one.

2- Damn. I knew I was forgetting something. I was going to use some chicken stock as well as the pork necks for extra flavor, but I forgot. I forgot to add more meat to my veg, in the great Southern tradition.

Next time I will use pork necks, turkey necks, AND chicken stock.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Smoked turkey wings are a good bet, too, and if you have leftovers, you can pick the meat off the wings and then mixed it up with the collards and that is some good shit reheated.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it possible in this world of hierarchical gender to come up with a feminine term with all the positive connotations of "bro down"?

I believe Kelsey came up with "bitch up".

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooooh, I like that.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I woke up this morning to some dude buzzing everyone in my building asking who had a purple car in the parking lot. He sounded pissed. I ignored it but freaked out for a second wondering if my car could be considered purple.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

lol@jesse's examples of slow movies.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Stitching circle.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know, that conjures up FGM a little too vividly.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm unsure about "bitch up," since it has, if not a negative connotation, a potentially harsh one. That Kit person, in the Lost thread, asked someone if he didn't know someone else who could "bro down" and procure a copy of Wendnesday's episode for him to watch, implying a favor. It's hard to imagine asking someone to "bitch up" and drive you to the airport early in the morning, you know?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

A slow movie I did not like: Broken Flowers. The long, long shots went beyond contemplative, into boring, and came out the other side. I fell asleep and didn't have the heart to put myself through any more of it, so back in the mail with it.

What I DID like about Marie Antoinette was the way it used punk and rock and '80s elements while still making it a period piece. Unlike Romeo and Juliet, which went whole hog. (Nothing against Romeo and Juliet, I loved that movie.)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

bra down

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard "bro down" before this morning, but it sounds related to "man up"/"cowboy up" (imperative verb kinder than "grow a pair and...[talk to her, call my big bet, etc.]"

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard it like, "Who wants to bro down and watch football this weekend?" and the aforementioned favor-usage. I've also heard it negatively connotated like Jordan mentioned upthread, but not as often. Nick uses it a lot, I think. Dontcha? Dontcha?

Speaking of our ILX pigeonholes: JOHN! Can you tell me about the popularity, if any, of the name "Kai"?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"synchronize our menstrual cycles"

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Because a law school friend of mine's wife is about to have a baby and he said he would like to name him "Kai" but worries that name is too popular, a sentiment that I, as a Jennifer, found to be somewhat ridiculous although I appreciated his conscious effort to avoid a trendy name.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"bleed all over some important documents"

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I use the term "bros" sometimes in a semi-ironic sense but I don't think I ever say "bro down."

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I think "bros" is one of many terms that I started to use as a joke but then became absorbed into my vocabulary and now I just use it without thinking.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

And ladies can be bros too, BTW.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want to be a "bro." I defy your male normativity.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I know a Kai. He is one of the biggest douchebags it has ever been my distinct displeasure to meet.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I've also heard it negatively connotated like Jordan mentioned upthread

I didn't mention it. I would never use bro-down negatively. When Cam and Justin and I came to Chicago for drinking and shopping for cheap shirts and sensible furniture, that was a quintessential bro-down.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

He used to read The Giving Tree as a seduction tool.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost)

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite "slow" movie = Andrei Rublev

― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want to be a "bro."

Hey, tough shit.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

GAWD, Dan, I hate that guy.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha! My disgust is partially based on the fact that he tried this bullshit on multiple close female friends of mine. They laughed at him, and I did too.

Dude also "changed" his last name from a noble, relatively unique Finnish name to "Orion". I say changed in quotes because he didn't do it legally, he just asked people to start calling him that.

DOUCHE. BAG.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a dude here who changed his last name to "FX", I think cause he was going to be famous? Then his family got upset, so he added it to his first name, ie "Joe FX Smith".

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

The Giving Tree???

FX????

You people know some wankers.

Speaking of The Giving Tree, I want to restart the "relationship ending books" thread so that I can say that if someone gave me "The Secret," either the book or the DVD, I would not only dump him on the spot, but I would also probably physically assault him.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

[cut to jeff furiously scratching out an entry from his christmas shopping list]

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha. I never would have married the man if he even for a moment considered that an appropriate gift.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

[jeff pauses, worries that scratching out the entry may not be enough, and lights the entire list on fire]

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Now a pyromaniac I would have married.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

NO SERENADE NO FIRE BRIDAGE JUST THE PYROMANIA COME ON

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

What do you want?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

What DO you want?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i wanna, y'know, rock 'n' roll

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

you betcha.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew you'd come through, Kevin.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny, i WILL rock 'n' roll

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

And now I have Def Leppard stuck in my head. There are worse things, I suppose, since it's Pyromania-era Def Leppard and not that horrible Hysteria record. Def Leppar really went down the tubes after Rick Allen lost his arm.

SORRY BUT IT IS TRUE.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

who knew all their talent lay in that dude's left arm?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I have actually given this some thought. I think that to accomodate the loss of Rick Allen's arm, Def Leppard had to rely on synth drums. That meant that they had to change their entire sound because the rock and roll of Pyromania just didn't work with synth drums, at least not as they sounded in the late 80s. So the band had to build a new sound around the synth drums and you get the turd known as Hysteria.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't remember hysteria very well but i loved pyromania.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

That theory works except that Hysteria is not a turd.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys all had jean jackets with metal band names stenciled on the back in black marker in middle school, didn't you?

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes but I had to sneak it out of the house and change into it on the bus. I wasn't allowed to wear my skull & fishbones shirt to school, either.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, at that blizzard show that the Fake Fix did at the Ice Fac, did you guys do a Def Leppard cover or was it another band?

"Bringing on the Heartache" - that's a good one. High 'n' Dry?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, High 'n' Dry. I love that song.

Alright, Kenan. Defend Hysteria. I've had this argument with Jeff a number of times. He's on your side but has failed to convince me. Here is your opportunity to weild your lofty rhetoric full blast. (Rule: You can't say that if I don't like Hysteria, there is something inherently broken in me.)

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

18 MILLION COPIES SOLD.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

my denim jacket had 1/2 buttons and an iron maiden patch on it. i always thought the black sharpie thing was stupid. but 1/2" buttons and an iron maiden patch wasn't so go figure.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess caps don't help an argument, do they?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"Hysteria is one of only a handful of albums (and the third in rock history) that has charted seven singles or more on the US Hot 100: "Women" (#80), "Animal" (#19), "Hysteria" (#10), "Pour Some Sugar On Me" (#2), "Love Bites" (#1), "Armageddon It" (#3) and "Rocket" (#12). It remained on the charts for three years and has sold 18 million copies worldwide."

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know... how many albums did Michael Bolton sell? And are you willing to argue that anything he's released is as good as or better than Pyromania?

My jean jacket had a flower with a yin yang in the middle of it airbrushed on the back.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

But see, "Women" and "Rock It" were essentially the same song. As were "Hysteria" and "Love Bites." So that doesn't count.

Compare Love Bites to Photograph or Brining on the Heartache for pure rock ballad awesomeness.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I had no jean jacket. But, I had a field jacket with spikes and patches from various UK anarcho-punk bands that scared people (including me). I was pretty punk rock for a professor kid from the middle of nowhere. SMASH THE FUCKING SYSTEM etc etc

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

"Women" (#80), "Animal" (#19), "Hysteria" (#10), "Pour Some Sugar On Me" (#2), "Love Bites" (#1), "Armageddon It" (#3) and "Rocket" (#12).

if i were in a car and any of these songs came on the radio i don't think i could move fast enough to change the channel. i would endanger myself and the other motorists around me if need be.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

except maybe animal, if i had 3 or 4 beers and was feeling ironic. if i had 6 or 8 beers i'd probably get surly.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW, I can't stand Def Leppard at all.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and by the way, when i went over to the post office at 9:45 i saw my first robin of the season. SPRING IS NEAR MOTHERLOVERS!!!

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with Kevin. I'd stay with "Animal" and "Hysteria" on The Loop and turn off the others.

However, without those seven songs, there would be no such thing as a lap dance.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

However, without those seven songs, there would be no such thing as a lap dance.

prince nelson rogers, patron saint of the strip club begs to disagree.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

H1dden M1ttens covered "Hysteria," not us.

I didnt' have a rock jacket. However, the cool older kid down the street did tell us which bands to write on our skateboards with Sharpies. I think it was like Cinderella and Whitesnake. Then in college I had a kinda punk rock leather jacket. No pins or studs though.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i had no jean jacket. but i had an army jacket that i wore a lot, a la lindsey in freaks and geeks.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys all had jean jackets with metal band names stenciled on the back in black marker in middle school, didn't you?

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i wore my dad's jacket from when he was in the service. it was made in 1956 and i wore it until it had started to disintegrate in 1999. that was a quality garment.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Alright, Kenan. Defend Hysteria. I've had this argument with Jeff a number of times. He's on your side but has failed to convince me. Here is your opportunity to weild your lofty rhetoric full blast. (Rule: You can't say that if I don't like Hysteria, there is something inherently broken in me.)

HA! It's ok, Jenny... I'm broken, too. But you are wrong on this one. Hysteria is a better album. I don't know how I can construct any solid defense for this, except to say that the songwriting is top-notch, and... JUST LISTEN TO THE THING. IT'S A MONSTER.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

if i were in a car and any of these songs came on the radio i don't think i could move fast enough to change the channel. i would endanger myself and the other motorists around me if need be.

fair enough, I know it's cheesy. But come on. Have you never been seduced by a manipulative hair metal riff? I have.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would you want someone to pour some sugar on you if you were already "sticky sweet/from my head head head to my feet"?

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

no no he is sticky AFTER the sugar is poured. it's a non-linear narrative.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's a Heloise trick or something.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

can we talk about ZZ Top? I looooove ZZ top.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

or AC/DC. Either will do.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

really, it's a song about homemade exfoliants.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

2x ZZ. I should listen to Deguello next.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

WHICH I LOVE.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

DAMMIT DAN, XPOST.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh, sorry. You aren't a ZZ Top fan, I take it? Too bad.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, i can totally ysi deguello. Best one.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I've got it! My pops is a fanboy, I just ripped all the good ones from him.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I think we're the only ZZ fans Kenan. Or it's lunchtime.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

no, I think we're alone, lunch or not.

First I convert people to Macs, next I start on the ZZ Top.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

It's good work. It makes me feel good about myself.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I started on both when I was about 5. Well, they called them Apples then.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Those were the days.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Archie_Bunker_Wikipedia3_003.jpg/149px-Archie_Bunker_Wikipedia3_003.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I like ZZ Top! And I like a cheesey heavy metal riff (see: Pyromania love). HOWEVER, Hysteria is short on those riffs and long on... synth drums and rock ballad cliches. I also disagree on the top notchery of the song writing. See: cliches. Also, Love bites? Love bleeds? Ohhhhh kay Joe. Okay.

Not that lyrics were any strong point on any of their previous albums either, admittedly.

I'm with Kevin re: preferring a fiery car wreck over subjecting myself to an entire song from Hysteria. And you have to understand that I had pictures of the whole band over my bed during the Pyromania era.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm with jenny and it's not like cliches can't work, i mean look at judas priest, AWESOME hooks with the rock 'n' roll cliches and it somehow works.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I wasn't there and don't understand the divide btwn Pyromania (a cheesy, great record) and Hysteria (a cheesy, really really great record). I mean, they're both grade-A crap. What are we arguing about?

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

We're arguing about whether Hysteria is a really, really great record, which seems to be the delusion under which you're operating.

Kenan, how old are you? I thought you were closer to my age. I kind of forgive Jeff for his Hysteria preference because he was of the age to which that record would appeal (see also his preference for Back to the Future II) but old people like Kevin and me know better.

I *heart* Judas Priest. HEART!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny, i am 32 years old. And Hysteria is the better record. Nyah.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny's like the older sister i never had.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's talk about Motorhead.

Can we all at least agree the Motorhead is srsly awesome?

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

and of course i mean much much older.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

My backpack mostly had thrash metal logos.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I stopped by the tire place to drop off my car but it looks like I'll have one more day on the spare.

While I was there, a younger employee said to an older one "What's your password? I need to void this transaction." The older dude was very hesistant, and then he relented and said very quietly, "...1 2 3 4". lol.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

A quick aside: what the FUCK is with cyclists being vegans? I like boys, I like bikes, I like boys who like bikes WHO EAT DAIRY, MOTHERFUCKERS.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Also feel free to sub "BACON" for "DAIRY".

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

your first mistake is still being interested in "boys".

although since the "silk pajamas" scandal broke in springfield i've been jonesing to call someone a cougar.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It was mostly for the sake of alliteration.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

A quick aside: what the FUCK is with cyclists being vegans?

Fashion?

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Wearing spandex and being vegan are two sides of the same coin.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Or maybe it's "oooh, I'm going to choose an environmentally conscious mode of transportation, why don't I just reduce my consumption even more, fuck you!"

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

the thing is, it's not like spandex is so fucking environmentally conscious. just like nonleather shoes aren't. the production of synthetic fabrics involves a lot of energy and creates a lot of pollution, and so vegans carrying on about "vegan shoes" and not wearing wool and shit really fucking irks me.

i will refrain from ranting further.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Good point.

I had, like, a clif bar and some thin mints for lunch, but after reading noize I am dying for Indian food. :(

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a dumb cold sandwich and dumb reduced fat cheez-its when I want something warm and hearty.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Wild Oats has vegan drawers for sale. Or hemp. Or something.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I could go for a cappuccino.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

HOVERBOARDS

― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

SELF LACING NEON NIKES

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i had a raspberry iced tea and a bag of chips when i have like a pound and a half of bowtie pasta in a basil/red pepper tomato sauce and a ton of parmesian in the fridge downstairs. but work is conspiring against me. maybe i'll save it for dinner since i'll probably still be here.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

:( are you being barred from your lunch by a meeting again, Kevin? bullshit.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

no, my supervisor is on travel and the person immediately ahead of me on the food chain is at a doctor's appointment and i'm trying to cover both of their desks and still get the MOUNTAIN of work I have to do done. of course i'm still fucking around on the internets though. i am not managing my time effectively.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Shame on you.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

What's up, Chinamen?

Hey, did you know it's March 6th? And did you know that in Chicago, that means Jeniffer Hudson Day?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

aw Jennifer Hudson

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Update on the US Bank sign: apparently they let their employees take turns putting whatever they want on the front sign. When Osama's turn came, he decided on "walk like an egyptian." Perfectly reasonable.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, how about: What the FUCK is up with cyclists being dirty? You're in a job that can result in intense perspiration, so the way to deal with that is to just give up and not bathe? Then stink up my dinner at the Handlebar?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

They have an employee named Osama? That's gotta present some challenges.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I work with a dude named Osama. I feel guilty for doubting the motivations behind their weird signage.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a salon in HP called Ossama's Hair Design. I think it's at like Hyde Park Blvd and Cornell.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, there used to be one on the west side as well, i can't remember if it was damen or ashland or halsted but it was just off van buren and you could see it from 290. it did not fare well in this crazy post 9/11 world.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Ossama's Hair Design was at the corner of State and Randolph, next to the Chicago Theater and above a Walgreens, before that building got torn down.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Hair == teh dull

I need a cut. What should I do? I think I have had the same cut pretty much my entire life.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Dye it? No, don't do that.

That's what you get when you already have the perfect hairstyle, Dan.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

There's an Osama Hair Design on Dearborn, south of Jackson.

Speaking of gross things bike messengers do, I saw a dude MOUNTAIN BLOW all over the sidewalk in front of me and I was like, "Whoa, dude, gross" and then I saw the Chrome bag and then I realized he had just locked up a bike and I was like "Ohhhhh... bike messenger" and I was no longer surprised or particularly offended since, you know, they are filthy vegans, generally.

Julia, you should rant MORE, just generally.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, have you READ this thread?

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: there's a kind of vegan that doesn't wear WOOL??

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow."

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the sandman is sending me a special gift
a sleepy dream memory of our first kiss
cast a shadow in my direction
cast a shadow in my dierction

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that if you have a haircut that works for you, you should just stick with it. I will probably keep this hairstyle forever since it's the only one I've ever had taht looks better the longer I go between haircuts.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

of all the millions and millions of things i think about, from the life-altering to the trivial, what my hair looks like is rarely, if ever, one of them.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

OBV! :D

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

it's 10 past 5 and it's still light out. not too shabby.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah! That's cool. I noticed that yesterday, I think. Of course it's also 23 degrees out but whatever. I'll take what I can get.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

: (

later this week, 40s. i saw on the 10 day that there's supposed to be a 50 degree day soon.
plus, as mentioned upthread, I SAW MY FIRST ROBIN OF THE SPRING!

things are gonna get better from here on out, i can feel it.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Peace Chicago, don't hate.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

later stretch.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope it never goes above 74 all summer.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh, I've always heard the "mountain blow" called the "farmer's blow".

― Eazy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG, I just got invited to a wedding.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: there's a kind of vegan that doesn't wear WOOL??

yup.

Veganism, as defined by the Vegan Society, is "a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."

(that's from wiki)

i was kind of stunned to learn that not only do vegans stay away from dairy and eggs, they don't eat honey (OH THINK OF THE BEES OMG), and don't wear any sort of leather or wool or anything that has ever come from an animal. there was a new york times article on how veganism is becoming trendy, talking about expensive "vegan purses" and "vegan shoes". it went on and on about blahblah eco-consciousness when VEGAN SHOES ARE ACTUALLY WORSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT WTF. polyurethane and PVC and the like--not so earth-friendly. i suppose if you wear nothing but cotton sneakers, that's one thing, but there's all this fake leather bullshit that will never biodegrade and is a bitch to the environment to produce...and that's what's the supposedly ethical choice?

i'm all for consideration of animal rights, but people should use their brains when they're trying to make social statements through consumer choices. srsly.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i have a couple of vegan cookbooks because my roommate's close friend (an avid cook and recommender of cookbooks) is a vegan. (there was bacon in the fridge when she last visited, which she kept commenting on. i was amused.)

there's some decent stuff in the cookbooks, when they're not using weirdass mystery ingredients and promoting fake meats. some really good food is naturally vegan. hummus, for example. i love me some hummus.

but i got to reading the beginning of one of the cookbooks one day, looking for some sort of conversion or something--and instead of helpful info, there was all this proselytizing about IDEALS. it went on and on about how it was sometimes difficult to stick to veganism, but think of the social importance of how you're eating and living and blahblah.

but i have a serious problem with people buying vegan shoes and refusing to wear wool and thinking they're making a difference in the world.

and honey! i love honey! i do not worry about the suffering of the bees! though eschewing honey doesn't do any harm, i suppose. so it's mainly the shoes.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I still think it's mainly a fashion statement: MORE VEGAN THAN U, just like any number of "countercultural" ethea. I've known several vegans in my life, and all of them were in it because of either peer pressure (i.e. being cool) or serious body issues (quote: "I'd rather have cancer than be fat" -- yeah, that has nothing to do with veganism).

I think a lot of the ideas are sound but like everything good, once people make it a lifestyle a lot of that becomes secondary.

Also, I like to eat flesh. Gotta use these pointy teeth for something.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm trying really hard to find the fake "how to be emo" page some friends of mine made a few years ago. Choice quote: "Don't be vegan because you care about animals. Be vegan to be cool."

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i can understand the serious body issues thing: people with such issues commonly like to be in strict control over things, and having a diet that requires lots of adaptations and restrictions lends a rigidity to what/how you can eat.

veganism in itself doesn't necessarily promote losing weight/being thin, though. the vegan i know is at least 5 or 6 sizes bigger than my bacon-eating self.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Not wearing wool or leather or consuming honey are pretty much basic tenets of veganism, so I don't know why that's much of a surprise. Maybe I've just known a lot of people with copies of Diet for a New America on their bookshelf or something.

That said, while I think there are a lot of advantages to a strict vegan lifestyle, and admire those who are able to pull it off with grace and happiness, I'm more likely to espouse a philosophy of "do what you can." Ultimately, I'd like to wear shoes that aren't made from animal products, but it's so hard for me to find non-vegan shoes that fit me that it doesn't seem worth the effort. And while I have absolutely no desire to eat meat and am perfectly content without it, giving up cheese would definitely make me sad. So I do what I can.

Some people probably think that I'm a bad vegetarian (esp. now that I eat seafood every once in a while), but I have a feeling that the emphasis on purity that you hear from some animal-rights activists has the potential to send someone in the opposite direction, if they find themselves unable to adhere to the lifestyle 100%. Again, if you can make it work for you, then that's awesome, but for a lot of people, I think it's spiritually healthier to embrace moderation.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

giving up cheese would definitely make me sad.

AMEN.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

holy crap julia is POSTING. Like, in earnest! I love you, julia.

Shut up, john.

Did you get the ysi I sent?

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, once in a while i get all crazy and actually say something.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link

we like it. keep it up.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, I did get the YSI, but I can't open .rar files. :(

Don't worry about it.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

damnit, you can open rar files if you try. they're not secret or anything.

http://www.unrarx.com/

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

but if you like, i'll zip it. :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh cool, that worked!

I downloaded some similar program a while ago and couldn't figure it out, so I thought .rars were a lost cause for me.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

nope

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm seeing a doctor who might want me to give up cheese at some point because of something with digestion and wtf and i don't know. the concept scares me, but i'd do it temporarily if it would really impact my health. i think. i kind of doubt that it would make that big of a difference, though. i dunno.

i had the most beautiful sharp white cheddar in my fridge, really potent stuff, which is now all gone and eaten. how can i give up flavor like that? cheese is such an incredible foodstuff.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i really do miss xposts.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a good thing I haven't emptied out the trash on my desktop, too, because I have albums by Of Montreal, The Shins, and Peter Bjorn + John in .rar format that I downloaded just to see if they'd work. They didn't, but they will now.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

YAY!

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

julia, i got you cheese instead of chocolate for valentines day, because you can't eat chocolate, and whatevs, because cheese is better anyway. But if you stop eating cheese... OH NOES. What's next, you won't eat bacon??? This is insanity.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that really was some serious cheddar, wasn't it?

treasure island, ppl.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

it was AWESOME.

i don't know about stopping with eating cheese altogether. i don't know if it's humanly possible for me.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

(and cheese for valentine's day was totally better than chocolate)

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I have it on good authority that Julia still eats bacon. She had one of my leftover burgers for dinner, which is a big medium-rare slab of ground beef with a thick, nasty piece of bacon wrapped around it and fried all together in its own beautiful animalistic greasiness. I tried to fancy it up with arugala when I put it together, but I needn't have bothered. It would have been awesome with just a little mustard.

Or with nothing. That would also work.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:48 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread is pretty great.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I have yet to dig into my (piss-lapping) collards with (son-of-a-bitch-motherfucking) pork neck, but I (godfuckingdamn) am looking forward to it.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

OH SHIT. I AM ON THE WRONG THREAD! OOOOOPSS1!!!!!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy-ghost-goop-gobbling greens with turd-fucking cum-curd-eating corn bread.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

(I'm practicing.)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

for what?

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

For our date.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Tonight is the kind of night where I wish I smoked weed. If a joint wouldn't make me want to run through the window, I would love to sit around and smoke one.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm more likely to espouse a philosophy of "do what you can."

OTM. Plus, meat-eaters who feel the need to justify themselves are just as annoying as self-righteous vegans.

Who's going with me to see Mastodon at the Riviera on May 12?

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

There are few feelings more frustrating than getting up and leaving for work an our early to get in and get some work cranked out before the day hits, only to be stuck in molasses-ass traffic and ending up twenty minutes late.

I totally want to see Mastodon, I love them.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"our" = "hour"

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Back when I was a vegetarian, I strived to avoid leather. I was generally able to w/r/t most accessories but the problem I found with "vegan" shoes was that they fell the fuck apart after a few months. I think the best bet is to try and buy used as much as possible - clothes, shoes, whatever. That way you can get quality goods, save money, and subvert the cycle of capitalism-mandated overmanufacturing and its subsequent landfill-choking waste. Buying new quality items and learning to repair them instead of buying junk and then throwing it out is good, too.

Julia, just cheese or all dairy?

JVC... that f'n sucks!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Vegetarians in this thread. I may have asked this before, but what are your main reasons for not eating meat?

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

My reason was an inability to remedy the cognitive dissonance between enjoying the company of some live animals and then being willing to eat other animals. Plus I don't know that I could kill a pig or a cow, so I figured I shouldn't be eating it.

My reasons for being such a conflicted meat eater now are those plus the horror of factory farming and what that does to animals, human workers, the environment, and our other food. And also because it takes so many resources to support such a meat heavy diet and maybe if we ate lower on the food chain we could redistribute some resources, assuming of course a total paradigm shift as far as leadership goes.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Like, I have a general rule that I can't eat anything I've ever had as a pet. But then, I've known some pretty great ducks in my life and duck is really, really good. But how can I eat duck after knowing that ducks are kind of funny and interesting when they are alive?

I do like Amanda's approach to meat-eating, though. 2/3s vegetarian, 1/3 bacon-eating.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff obv. already knows this, but I wanted to answer as a show of good faith that this isn't a meat eater's demand for vegetarians to JUSTIFY THEIR PERSONAL CHOICES but an attempt to learn things about stuff and junk.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, RTX is playing the Empty Bottle on May 7. No one cares about this except me.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, what Jenny said.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I am a vegetarian because Sarah told me to.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

You see, that's a perfectly valid question, but I always hate answering it, because it puts me on the defensive. Also, it makes me feel like I'm preaching and tends to put other people in an argumentative mode, when I didn't feel like discussing it in the first place. At least you aren't bringing this up at a table where people are already eating meat. That's the worst. I guess my point is that I don't feel like turning it into THIS THING.

Never-the-less, I'll say that I honestly became a vegetarian out of peer pressure. I was 16 and had just started on my third new high school in a row. All my new friends were vegetarian. I'm talking at least 10 new friends were all vegetarian. They were really into it. Also, I found them all to be dazzlingly intelligent (I was in the International Baccalaureate program at that school) and took what they said seriously. And one day, one of them happened to show me one of those horribly graphic brochures that would make anyone want to kill themselves.

Also, I didn't eat much meat before that anyway, at least not for several years prior. I really wanted to be vegetarian in middle school, but my mom flat out wouldn't let me because she was worried I just wanted to diet. My inner urges to be veggie first flared when I saw Bambi in the theater (as a wee one). Then they came back full force in 8th grade when I had the popular teen obsession with death and my part in it and how crazy the world is... yadda yadda...

So fast forward to 16-year-old me who had basically been veggie for a few months before meeting these friends with the exception of the occasional slice of pepporoni pizza or piece of fish. It was easy to make the transition.

That said, I was not a healthy veggie to begin with, because that wasn't the point for me. It was more about animal rights. In fact, it was all about animal rights. So I ate a bunch of crap (french fries & coke played a big part). In the past few years, my diet has taken a 180 in that I've been paying a lot more attention to what I put into my body, but I think that is all about GROWING UP and has little to do with my vegetarianism.

Mostly it's habit now and it's easy and I believe in my reasons for doing it, so I don't see why I'd change that. Also, our society has become a hell of a lot more vegetarian friendly. Most restaurants, for example, have at least one, but usually a few more, vegetarian entrees. Vegetarian groceries (ie: veggie soup with no chicken stock for example) are so much easier to come by. Also, my knowledge of food, especially ethnic vegetarian foods, is a lot bigger now, so I have a lot more healthy options.

As I said, I dont' like talking about it. I don't like arguing about it. I think everyone should just make their own food choices/ decide for themselves. I have been constantly amazed at how many people talk to me about vegetarianism as though I'm trying to change them.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Like, I have a general rule that I can't eat anything I've ever had as a pet. But then, I've known some pretty great ducks in my life and duck is really, really good. But how can I eat duck after knowing that ducks are kind of funny and interesting when they are alive?

this is why i always imagine cows as having little hitler moustaches. it makes the steak taste that much better.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I imagine RTX would be pretty fun at the Bottle, but I've never really checked them out. How similar/not are they to Royal Trux?

For the record, I'm a meat eater. Hard to grow up on a farm in central Illinois and not be, but I've grown to be more conscious of my choices.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

one of those horribly graphic brochures that would make anyone want to kill themselves

They got me, too! They still get me.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

RTX is probably closest to "Accelerator," the super-distorted overcompressed yet poppy version of Royal Trux (and probably my favorite Royal Trux album). It's a little hair-metally as well. OK, very hair-metally. Transmaniacon was my favorite album of 2004, and everyone here was probably really sick of me talking about it.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

(not that I think you think I'm trying to change you, Jeff)

Also, I just said I don't like to talk about it but LOOK AT THAT POST. ha ha

Don't read the following if you're queasy:
I forgot to reference all of my encounters with death, especially animal death, when I lived on the farm in middle school. During my few years there I saw dead birds, parts of deer (and had to pick them up), dead cats (had to move them out of the road/usually not ours! or would find one trampled by a horse or one killed by a dog...), dead rodents and squirrels and such killed by our cats and dogs, a dead pony, dead snakes (didn't mind that one), dead fish, and a few dead kittens. Also, I had to deal with the deaths of a couple of relatives during this time. This made me feel even more protective of animals, which would include not wanting to eat them.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The only time I tried to go veggie was in high school. My mom was such a horrible cook that all the meat she prepared was dry, under seasoned, and tasteless. I thought that was how all meat tasted so I wanted no part of it.

Once I left home, I learned how wonderful well prepared meat can taste and have never looked back. I like vegetables too.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a book about animal cognition for Christmas. I need to start reading that, I wonder if it will change any of my current beliefs about animal consciousness.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm willing to go veg again! It will be easier if we both try it.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i want a steak for breakfast.

hey, is it payday this friday? if so i'm going out for a steak.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

No way sister, I'm still in my meat renaissance.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

CHICAGO: Meat Renaissance.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It would make a logical follow-up to "Beef, Love and Understanding."

Chicago, give me one good reason why I should go to class today instead of going home and studying for the MPRE and possibly doing some laundry?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

because the sidewalks are covered in snow and everyone seems disagreeable today and it's still that soul-crushing grey wasteland and.... i got nothing. stay home.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin's reasons sound OTM and good enough for me. Too bad I've already left the house.

Anyone else have problems with artwork randomly not showing up for songs on their iPod? I've searched all the forums and all the answers revolve around unchecking the album art option and rechecking it again, but mine keeps getting errors when I recheck it again. So now I have cover art for like, 1/32nd, of the songs on there.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i only have artwork for the two songs i bought from itunes and they always show up.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I did mad laundry yesterday. It was satisfying. Clean undies + clean sheets + cat-hair-free duvet cover (for about a minute) + clean fluffy towels + clean socks. All these things are awesome things.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, I love that feeling.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty meticulous about the cover art for all the albums I have, but then, when I think about it, why? It's just one more little administrative duty concerning my music files. I am starting to think that administrative duties concerning your music files are for big nerds.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

considering my ipod is in my jacket pocket 98% of the time i don't care what's being displayed on the screen.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

this is why i always imagine cows as having little hitler moustaches. it makes the steak taste that much better.

Deserves to be repeated, in italics.

I tried being a vegetarian once. It lasted for about 3 weeks. I love meat, and I while I've grown soft, I could probably slaughter my own animals, though I would probably have a hard time with a duck (but not a chicken so much). This is probably because my dad was a farmer and we always had animals around that we were killing and eating (chix and sheep anyway).

I sort of do what Amanda does--I eat and enjoy meat, but I love non-meat as well, so I will often order or cook non-meat options. Plus part of the time I buy free-range meat, and it is a goal to do so more often.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly.

Ok, you know why I do it? For the screensaver on my desktop. You can set it up to display all the artwork in your iTunes library, tiled. And the tiles flip around and change one at a time, randomly. It's hypnotizing. I look at it and go, "Man, I'm so cool."

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

uh, xpost

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I only got an iPod that can display covers last week, but like Kevin I never look at it anyway.

I fired up Slsk this morning for the first time in, like, a year. It was kind of nostalgic.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, I only fire up slsk for single tracks, and on special occasions. Like the other day, when I suddenly HAD to have the theme to The Third Man.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Let me tell you about my dream. I was living in the town Freddy Kreuger lived in, but we were kind of friends, but YOU HAVE TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT FUCKER! Anyway, there was a guy in the town who was known for being a womanizer and beating his wife, so we got Freddy to hang out with him. We thought he'd kill him, but instead he either invaded his body or he followed him around anywhere, because when he was at work as a cashier he stood very still and spoke in a monotone.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

fascinating.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, dream journal.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep getting exciting messages about people that want to be my Myspace friend, and then I find out it's just another wild young college girl. WILD YOUNG COLLEGE GIRLS, LEAVE ME BE.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

This last one had a picture of her sitting on the toilet. I did not need that. No one ever needs that.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, "college" girls.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

They are in college! And they are wild! And young! And apparently they use the toilet from time to time! It's fucking amazing!

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I got one the other day that was just a picture of an ass. That's all, just an ass.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i just get spam from "girls" and their spartan profiles usually include a link to their "photos". i have never once clicked one of those links but i'm willing to bet i'd need a credit card to see anything interesting.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

you're ahead of the game. You are one click up on me.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost always report friend requests from people I don't know as spam. Fuck that shit. Myspace is annoying enough on its own.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Hum's "Why I Like the Robins" just came up on shuffle. YESSSsssssss...

Hi peeps

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes I get friend requests from strangers that are record labels or something like that. Those I don't mind.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa. Hum. I haven't thought about that band in forevs.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i just fucked up my netflix queue and now i'm getting easy money instead of we jam econo in time for the weekend. though i suppose if i blow through a dvd tonight (unlikely with it being lost night and all) i could get the first disc of the two in time for saturday viewing. assuming my mail carrier decides on delivering mail this weekend.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

For a while we had a myspace friend named "Luna" who would post animated gifs of her slapping her thong-clad ass as comments. I just assumed that this was ILX's Luna, which is why I felt bad about blocking her comments. Then we figured out it was just some random myspacer, so now I just ignore her comments.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm used to requests from people I don't know through the band myspace, but the hot girl ones are almost always spam.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have the "block requests from bands" thing turned on (though i'm tempted sometimes) but i would say about 95% of band requests are denied. and 95% is probably conservative. there are a whole lot of really bad, popular bands in chicago. apparently.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha there is a setting for that?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So is there something going on at Ice Factory on Sat. night? Eric hinted at something but then didn't reply to my email, and the IF website is even more fucked up than usual right now.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Eric Z and Canasta are playing with one other band.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Walk In/Rock Out: Canasta, Teddy Edwards(of The Music Lovers)& Eric Ziegenhagen
Saturday March 10th
We welcome back local orchestral pop group Canasta along with touring act Teddy Edwards. Eric Ziegenhagen opens up the night with his intimate lap guitar storytelling from the NW side of Chicago.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

intimate lap guitar storytelling

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

It's another acoustic dude, I believe. It's sort of last minute, but you should all come, it should be fun. It's also a benefit for the Chicago Underground Library

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

intimate lap ~~guitar~~ storytelling

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

(fixed)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The last two Netflix movies I've gotten in the mail have had the packages ripped open, in a fairly obvious way that makes me think our mail carrier (or someone else) was hoping to steal the good ones. Apparently Brick and Half Nelson weren't up to his/her standards. Does make me nervous to know that someone might steal one of these at some point. This is exactly why I never have stuff shipped to my home address.

Our mail carrier is atrociously bad, among other things s/he has done:

Routinely shoves all of our building's mail into whichever box is most convenient that day (usually ours), so I spend a couple minutes every day sorting all the mail for our building.

At least one or two pieces of mail everyday is for our same street number on either of the two streets surrounding ours.

Pretty much a constant stream of mail meant for the neighboring buildings.

Any packages too large for the mailboxes gets thrown on the ground, had to dig a box of books out the snow last week.

It's seriously the worst "service" ever. Complaining to the postmaster has only made it worse, so I guess its time to just deal. Is this fairly common though?

[/rant]

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The mail in Chicago in general is AWFUL. I have had endless trouble with them. And complaining does make it worse -- you're lucky you're still getting mail at all.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

HAY GUISE yesterday in class Prof. Hummingbird talked a lot about breast feeding and pumping breast milk except she would stammer badly whenever she tried to say "breast" and she kept flitting around at the front of the room and we talked about breast feeding for a good fifteen minutes and given that I have never heard anybody speak openly about the challenges that working women face if they want to breast feed children, it was possibly the greatest lawschool moment I have witnessed. It would been less great if it wasn't Prof Hummingbird flitting and stammering her way through it, though.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

When my friends Karen and Andrew got married, they put their home address as the mailing address and the return address on their RSVP envelopes. They got about ten of those back stamped return to sender, no such address. It was the same address!!!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the class???

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Prof. Hummingbird also invited me out for a beer again. Wheee!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

It wouldn't be such a big deal if I didn't have to make a weekly trip to the post office to return all the mail meant for other buildings, but the mail carrier flat out refuses to take anything back with them.

Anyway, enough bitching for today. Really I'm in a good mood.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I will most likely come to the IF show on Saturday night.
I would like to encourage people to come see the FFs NEXT Friday (the 16th) at Beat Kitchen if they feel like it. It's for purely selfish reasons, I hate playing at Beat Kitchen when it's empty. So I want it to be PACKED.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

My initial reasons for turning vegetarian are similar to Sarah's in that my sophomore year of college I had a bunch of vegetarian friends. My roommate was vegan, and on the other side of the dorm basement we lived in was the Veggie Co-op, which was two suites of girls who were all vegetarian and thus were given access to a kitchen. My roommate's girlfriend lived there, as did my several other female friends, including Kelsey.

So I was used to hearing the usual arguments about why it was a good idea to not eat meat (from animal rights to environmental concerns), and over the following summer, I began to flirt with the idea myself. I was never the kind of dude who relished a huge steak or pork chop, I was just accustomed to the conveniences of having meat as part of my diet. So I thought maybe it won't be that hard. I was studying in the UK that fall, and I made a spontaneous decision on the plane that I was going to try it out. (The last piece of meat I knowingly ate was a Philly cheesesteak at the Philadelphia airport). The fact that I was making all sorts of other adjustments in my life by living in another country and cooking for myself for the first time meant that it was a little bit easier to make that kind of change.

Anyway, it was totally fine. The idea of cooking with raw meat always grossed me out, anyway, so I was happy not to have to deal with that. And because the UK had just gone through the mad-cow scare, it had become a very vegetarian-friendly place to live -- lots of green V's on frozen-food packages and on restaurant menus.

But I did initially struggle with the philosophical justification for what I had done. Eventually, I happened upon this: that while there was no single reason (like animal rights) that I felt passionate about, there seemed to be, from an objective perspective, more good reasons for humans to not eat meat than to eat meat.

A year or two later, as I learned more and had discussions with vegetarian friends, I became more specifically invested in animal rights and environmental arguments, although I was never preachy about it, and as I've often mentioned, these days my vegetarianism is mostly just out of habit and preference.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

can we not talk about vegetarianism? Ever again?

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that it was the meat-eaters that started the whole conversation. Plus, Jenny SPECIFICALLY asked people about why they became vegetarian.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

So go chew on some shoe leather.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://typolis.net/static/shortsville/images/werner.gif

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

tom skilling you better not be dicking me around with this 7 day forcast....

Tom Skilling's 7-day forecast
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Wednesday
31
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16 Some early morning cloudiness, perhaps a few flurries. Becoming partly sunny but chilly with daytime highs remaining below freezing. North 8-15 m.p.h. winds pull wind chill into the mid teens. Clear and cold at night: lows from 10º coldest outlying areas to 20º in the city.

Thursday
37
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26 Generous sunshine, modestly warmer temperatures. Light morning winds shift to the east keeping shoreline readings in the low/mid 30s; low 40s south.

Friday
45
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35 Increasing cloudiness and warmer as southeast winds shift to the south. Light rain arrives by evening and continues at times overnight.

Saturday
48
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32 A few lingering morning showers, especially northwest Indiana. Becoming partly cloudy in the afternoon.

Sunday
48
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36 Intervals of clouds and sun, though more clouds prevail southern sections. Near 50° well inland and south. Lake breezes restrict highs to the upper 30s downtown.

Monday
56
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42 Partly sunny, breezy and substantially milder with 2007’s highest readings to date possible.

Tuesday
60
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44 Milder still, with the first 60-degree reading of the season possible. Sunshine along with patchy high and mid-level cloudiness.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I asked, and I like reading people's responses. Thank you everyone.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

hellooooo open windows.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

my windows are painted shut.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, ok, sorry guys. Vegetarianism it is.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

but i could always open them with a brick i suppose.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.apnm.org/programs/gx/vegetarianism.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Carrots make me that happy, too. Srsly.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, ok, sorry guys. Vegetarianism it is.
SO EASY!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

That weather report makes me slap-happy, so watch out. This means that my transition from Momphis weather to Chicago won't be quite as much like running smack dab into a brick wall.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey if anybody is going to be in the loop at noon tomorrow, come to the Daley Center for the 24th annual International Women's Day demonstration. It is usually a pitifully small group of women holding signs and listening to fiery speakers and we could use all the help we can get.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

http://zo.la/me/img/vegetarianism.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

(Reasoning I can get with, yo.)

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Being referred to as a "meat-eater" makes me feel like I'm a velociraptor or something. A carnivore. A predator.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

when i was last in momphis it was 42 and raining a hard, steady, cold rain. it was still about 35 degrees warmer than it was in chicago however.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a blues song somewhere there.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i prefer the term "omnivore" becuase i'm not just a meat eater nor am i strictly a vegetarian. ideally i'd like to have a little of both but rarely do.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Being referred to as a "meat-eater" makes me feel like I'm a velociraptor or something. A carnivore. A predator.

Cool, isn't it?

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, age 265 million:

http://www.dinosaursrock.com/velociraptor-skeleton-lg_small.jpg

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

How do you guys feel about the Olympics possibly coming to Chicago in 2016? It seems like a bad idea to me.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it would be a huge headache at best.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

The architect and urban planning enthusiast in me will be interested in following the designs and integration of the facilities and village, but other than that I think its going to be a huge mess. I think it might be best to just be out of the city for those couple of weeks if it happens.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

think it might be best to just be out of the city for those couple of weeks if it happens.

OTM

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It would be awesome if we got the Olympics! Big BIG boost to the economy, not to mention all the improvements they would have to invest in to accommodate a Olympic-sized crowd, everything from new hotels to (*holds breath*) expanded train lines.

But we won't know this for several years. If we win the US sweepstakes, we still have to compete with world cities.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Back to vegan shoes for a sec... I think that, for the most part, people who do things like buy expensive chemical-ridden vegan shoes, do so because they truly believe they are doing a good (or at least not-quite-as-bad) thing. I doubt most of those purchases are strictly done of the basis of being holier(or cooler)-than-thou. That said, I know little personally as to whether they are indeed any better for the environment.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

fyi- montreal just finished paying for the 1976 olympics this past fall. they made their last payment on the bonds that paid for the olympics in october. whatever gains they saw in their economy were probably offset by the intervening years of payments.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.veganline.com/blackspot-unswoosher.jpg

*shudder*

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

That shoe is "unisex," which means it can be worn by both men and lesbians.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

If we win the US sweepstakes, we still have to compete with world cities.

yes but it is almost certainly coming to the US because the summer games have not been generating the kind of tv money & ratings they used to. the games will be back in the states and structured around whatever tv entity pays the most for the rights to broadcast. that will mean things like the 100m dash being run at 8p.m. central time and the basketball finals tipping off during prime time on a saturday.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing when you're a full-blown vegan, your concerns for animal suffering often override your concerns for the environment. But then I don't know anyone who's going out of their way to buy vegan shoes who isn't a vegetarian/vegan. (I hadn't heard about it being trendy.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've heard lots of scary stuff about the economic effects of the Olympics on the cities where they take place.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll take the Olympics.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i think a place like LA where they already have the infrastructure to handle it would fare better. i was watching wttw last week and LA would only have to build 16% of the structures for the games whereas chicago would have to build over 70%.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Do crocs count? Because they're just ugly.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i was watching wttw last week and they reported that LA would only have to build 16% of the structures for the games whereas chicago would have to build over 70%.

fixed.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but Los Angeles has already hosted it twice, and as recently as 1984. I'm a fan of the Olympics moving around a lot. I wish it wasn't such an economic/infrastructural burden for most cities, because I'd love to see an Olympics in somewhere like South Africa or India. As much as a Chicago Olympics would be interesting (if overwhelming), I'm kind of rooting for Rio de Janeiro to win.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it could be Chicago's time. Coming soon to the area surrounding Washington Park: massive rent hikes!

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

If it was in Chicago it might be fun to come down and see something.

Speaking of which, if Justin Timberlake wasn't playing in Chicag on weeknights, I would be there.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I was thinking about this the other day... "Wow, getting to work is going to suck!" Then I realized that if I'm still working here in 2016 I've got bigger problems than the Olympics wrecking my commute.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll tell you one thing: the 55th street Red and Green Line stops (and the general surrounding area) need all the help they can get, Olympics or no.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Random:
What was that shortcut to make everything on your screen appear larger?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

In Firefox? control +

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, text at least.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there a way to do that for everything on your screen, using Control Panel perhaps?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Erm, you could adjust your monitor's resolution.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

You could lower the monitor resolution.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Right click on the desktop, go to "Appearance", then... I think... "advanced"? Or monitor or something like that. Lower your screen resolution. (But not past 1024x768, really. Lower than that, and you're going to miss something.)

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my coworkers suddenly had all her icons, text, etc showing up EXTRA SUPER LARGE STYLEE. She wanted to know how to make it go away. I told her to go to the Appearance Settings under Display and change the text size to normal, but apparently that isn't the solution. Her text size category is set up as a default that she can't change.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, well. Thanks. She can just have large icons for all I care anyway. HA!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"getting cranky need a spanky" just made me lol at my desk. Thanks, kev.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

BLACK CANDY.

beat happening, kenan.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. What are you so excited about, Kenan? The weather?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

never heard it.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I love that message too, Kevin.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that song.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, I'm not actually excited. (To tell the truth, I'm kinda depressed.)

But there's this:
http://www.wondermark.com/comics/270.gif
http://www.wondermark.com/comics/270.gif

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.dangerouslogic.com/images/bride-bong-large.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

beer bong bride kills thread.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually it's her ruined, smeared eyeliner that kills.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i have images turned off so nothing is ruined for me. it was a nice change of pace to log on last night from home and see the images on the WDYLL thread that were from flickr. i even logged onto my flickr account to celebrate.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Office pizza party woohoo!

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

:(

Nobody buys me pizza.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

you don't bring me flowers
you don't write me love songs
you don't buy me pizza
anymore.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

:'(

Yer makin me misty.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm as helpless as a kitten up a tree
and i feel like i'm clinging to a cloud
i can't understand
i get misty, holding your hand.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Walk my way,
And a thousand violins begin to play

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a lot of violins, yo. That has to be some racket.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

if you put a thousand monkeys with a thousand violins in a room for a thousand years...

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the smell would be horrendous.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, I don't hear violins. I hear a thousand HOT FIDDLES.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

charliedaniels.jpg

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm going to lunch. SHITTY TURKEY SUB PREPARE TO BE EATED!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel makes me hear highland fiddle.

http://website.lineone.net/~trotternish/qgirls.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm inspirational like that.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

But that's nothing next to Jordan's thousand marching bass drums.

http://www.peelerdrumcenter.com/IMAGES/MarchingYamahaBassFieldCorpsRed.JPG

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick & Sarah make me hear a thousand short, catchy pop-punk ditties.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope I make you hear fiery radical feminist rhetoric.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually after a thousand years the smell would probably have dried up and subsided along with the monkeys' filthy, decayed corpses. And the rats would have moved in, then out, and the dung beetles and decompositors, ditto. I predict mostly a lot of dust.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

aw. that's what you make me hear, Jenny!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Womens, I have run out of my fave BPAL oil (White Rabbit - I even bought a big one!) and I am SAD. But it does give me an excuse to order some more.

Laurel, did you get yours yet?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to HS: Yay!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

laurel, you don't think those monkeys would be breeding?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I want people to hear AC/DC when they're near me. Aw yeah.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

also, jenny makes me hear pitchers of beer being orderd.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

But I know I make people hear gaywad sophisto-pop. I know this, and I am trying to make peace with it. I do not rock. :(

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

pitchers of beer being ordered=the sweet sounds of fiery radical feminism!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

also, when i think of jesse i hear his voice but i hear him making absurd comments like "i invented the exclamation point" or "do you like my vest? it's made from shoelaces."

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

ha!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

also, jenny makes me hear pitchers of beer being orderd.

Chicago Kevin, I love you!

And yes, beer ~~often~~ always leads to fiery radical feminist rhetoric.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Dr. Evil: The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.designboom.com/trash/img/20.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

That's like the last funny thing Mike Myers ever said.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

For kevin: it's a picture of a shorn scrotum.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, I did get my BP and it's WONDERFUL. I think I got too many scents that are similar but I can't help it if I'm partial to green tea and herbs and sandalwood and shit like that, I'll branch out more next time. The scent Saturnalia, though, turns my stomach REALLY BADLY; it's made of violet and vetiver so I dunno what's so objectionable about it but I just cannot abide the thing. Otherwise awesome.

Kevin, I think without a primary food source those monkeys are going DOWN, population-wise. And without some provision for sanitation, the rest of the population will be crashing as soon as the first fecal-bacterial epidemic hits. So I'm not too worried.

Kenan, you prob make me hear Stars' first album, it's kind of cold and serpentine and some of the narrators are a little unprincipled (as opposed to later albums which are much warmer). I think it's a great album, but sorry if you don't love.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

This just in: Artichoke pizza rules x1000

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I WANT ARTICHOKE PIZZA!!!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i would go out tonight, but i haven't got a stitch to wear
this man said it's gruesome that someone so handsome should care

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Laurel, I got two very similar scents on my first order (Red Queen and Queen of Hearts - I was clearly in love with the Alice in Wonderland stuff) and they both made me kind of ill. Too sweet. I find it fascinating how different people react to different scents, and how the oils smell differently on different people.

At the smell-swap, I got an imp of one called Inferno that smells like Red Hots but burns my skin. But only when I put it on the inside of my elbows. Everywhere else is fine. SO WEIRD.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

duh

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

kind of cold and serpentine and some of the narrators are a little unprincipled

This makes me sound darkly fascinating. I like that. I'm going to go with that.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

There's still a whole one left, HS. Seems people are picky or don't like it, I dunno. First floor press building, corner conference room.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

There was this fancy pizza place in Richmond near my work where I used to go get lunch sometimes and they had this pizza with sundried tomato pesto, artichoke hearts, shredded spinach and cheese and it's like the No. 1 thing I miss about Richmond.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

No. 2: cheap rent

That's about it

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The vet just called and told me not to feed my kitten after midnight.

http://blog.txapulin.net/img/gremlins.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Also jealous of office pizza party. I had three TJ's hot dogs for lunch.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I want me a friggin' artichoke pizza.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.laroccaspizzeria.com/images/pizza_sm2.jpg
http://www.apsupermarket.com/recipes/images/artpizza.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

too
much
pizza

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

(burp)

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I need a couch in my cube.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

BEER. I need beer in my cube.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I was thinking that Moretti was looking pretty good up there...

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm totally ordering artichoke pizza right now.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

guys it's not going to come for an HOUR!!!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you order from Marcello's? They always say longer than it really takes.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, and I was just thinking that, Dan! it'll probably be here in 20 minutes. bless you, Marcello's!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, way to be spontaneous.

I was googling for artichoke pizza and the pic with the beer happens to be from a place 15 min away from me. Soooo tempting.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm extremely influence-able when it comes to ILX, apparently. and, let's be honest, when it comes to food.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

So if we start talking about alcohol will you get drunk in the middle of the afternoon?

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

hi I'm a grad student, it's a struggle for me not to do that every single day!!!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Grad school would kill me.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

it is not for the undisciplined, meaning I should drop the fuck out already.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i think a beer sounds like a delightful idea.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.wondermark.com/comics/263.gif

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm totally swamped at work today. It's kind of exciting. I just spent the last hour trying to prove that two Australian tennis players from the 1930s were not in fact the same person.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

ahhhh sweet pizza

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the best bet is to try and buy used as much as possible - clothes, shoes, whatever. That way you can get quality goods, save money, and subvert the cycle of capitalism-mandated overmanufacturing and its subsequent landfill-choking waste.

OTMFM. so very much.

Plus part of the time I buy free-range meat, and it is a goal to do so more often.

i would like to do this as well, but i don't buy meat much, what with living with a vegetarian.

i hope i didn't come across as a total ranting overdefensive meat eater (i probably did)--i've been exposed to some aspects of self-righteous veganism that reeeeally get my heckles up.

meh. anyway. i just ate the hell out of some really fucking good gnocchi.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a making-fried-chicken date with my ex tonight.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

(no euphemism)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I predict grease spatters.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I only buy free range lettuce.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Pfffft, not ORGANIC free range lettuce?!? Don't you care about ANYTHING?

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I DEMAND CRUELTY-FREE LETTUCE. NO INSECT LIFE-FORMS WERE HARMED IN THE TILLING OF THIS FIELD.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

SQUEEEEEEE

My friend 3rica is coming to town this weekend for her art show opening! ME HAPPY

Anyone want to go? It's on Friday.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Is she the one you did the make-out porn with?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm going to two shows friday dan, sorry.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahaha no, that was one of her classmates.

Gallery page

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Btw I'm going to try an America's Test Kitchen trick my dad told me about, using crushed melba toast for chicken breading. Apparently it comes out a lot closer to KFC-style breading than crushed cornflakes or whatever.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

The oven fried chicken recipe I make uses melba toast.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

This is also oven-friend

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Probably the same recipe, since mine came from the Cooks Illustrated Best Recipe cookbook. Does it involve a buttermilk brine?

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe? All I got from my dad was the melba toast, to be combined with M's traditional recipe. Buttermilk brine sounds rad, though.

I should get that book, I love the hell out of Cook's Illustrated.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i just added every movie that looked even vaguely interesting about chicago to my netflix queue, anyone have any recommendations?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

No movies, but this book has been awesome:

from my employer

In case that link is blocked for ya...

Arguably the most influential document in the history of urban planning, Daniel Burnham’s 1909 Plan of Chicago, coauthored by Edward Bennett and produced in collaboration with the Commercial Club of Chicago, proposed many of the city’s most distinctive features, including its lakefront parks and roadways, the Magnificent Mile, and Navy Pier. Carl Smith’s fascinating history reveals the Plan’s central role in shaping the ways people envision the cityscape and urban life itself.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

There was supposed to be a second Navy Pier! I think down by where the Museum Campus is now, maybe a little farther. The elevations and other drawings in the book are crazy.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i've read some of burnham's plan. there used to be that mural on the wall next to that building that ran along the north side of 290 that had some of it painted out. it was next to the true value building. both buildings are now condos, they destroyed the mural this past fall.

that looks interesting dan, i'll check that out when i'm done the books i'm reading now.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I've not read that whole book, but yeah, there is some really great things in there.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i miss you guys. Where you go?

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone heard Maxim0 Park? Apparently C0ugar is opening for them in Europe next month.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

never heard of them, sorry.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

also, i really love the name "cougar" for a band since the recent silk pajamas scandal.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently they're a post-punk band on Warp.

silk pajamas scandal.

Waht?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi clowns.

Well, today I say, Welcome back, iTunes. You say it will be different this time, and that we can make it work, but have you really changed since we've been apart? It's been long enough that I forgot exactly why I hated you so, but my iPod came between me and Winamp, so I am driven back into your arms. Don't hurt me this time, please?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, by the way, is this sort of my ILX thumbnail sketch?

also, when i think of jesse i hear his voice but i hear him making absurd comments like "i invented the exclamation point" or "do you like my vest? it's made from shoelaces."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

silk pajamas scandal.

Waht?

up until last week i was blissfully unaware that the female equivilant of a chickenhawk is a cougar.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Maxim0 P4rk is pretty good, the best of that whole bunch of recent British "post-punk" guitar bands anyway. Really tight, catchy tunes. I was just listening to their forthcoming disc, really good. Check out "Apply Some Pressure", "Going Missing", or "The Coast Is Always Changing" for a good taste.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of love "Apply Some Pressure" -- like I was kind of obsessed with it for a couple weeks about a year ago -- but the only other thing I've heard is the new single, which isn't as good but still cool.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Um, was there a TT plan? I can't spend much, and maybe it was metnioned upthread, but I missed it, but I would like to maybe have a beer or 12.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, it is Wednesday.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

WEDNESDAY

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

it's never to early to plan jordan.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I know what day it is, you dillhose. I was hoping there was a plan for tomorrow. I wish there was one for tonight. LIKE TRIVIA!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

my plan is to go home from work, make dinner, watch 30 rock then head to uptown and start drinking at about 10 pm tomorrow. if that fits with anyone else's schedule come on down.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse is tripping.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

HOLY FUCKING FUCK.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

These collards be GOOOOD. I used 2 big smoked pork neck bones in a relatively small pot of greens, and sisters, that made it amazing. I seem to recall someone on this thread saying something once about how adding meat to veggies is unnecessary because they taste good on their own (maybe about lentils), and that's true, but this is beyond perfection.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I was reading about how collards online and the article said something about how delicious the "likker" (the water it's boiled in) and that's v. true. This is a beverage.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Drinking pot likker is a very southern thing to do.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Ack, long day... seeya folks.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Stick a corn cob in me and call me Cletus.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that what you gay.com profile headline is?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

My dad used to use the term "pot licker" as a pejorative.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The Lake Isle Of Innisfree

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honeybee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.
And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight's all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet's wings.
I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart's core.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

What do you want? Can't a man share some Yeats?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

yes! :D

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

also, when i think of jesse i hear his voice but i hear him making absurd comments like "i invented the exclamation point" or "do you like my vest? it's made from shoelaces."

i was going to say something about how your thumbnail sketch would be something about ass. or maybe feminine folds. but here you are quoting yeats too.

― JuliaA, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse: talk to you tomorrow or something
what's your schedule tomorrow?
i'll protest bunny with you
me: i'm meeting people at depaul at 11:30 and then heading over
you can meet me at depaul if you want
good way to meet owmne
women, too
Jesse: ok
before that i mean
me: nothin
i'm open
want to get some COFFEE?
Jesse: maybe
what time are you rising and going to innisfree?
shall you arise and go to innisfree
what time are you getting up?
me: whenevs
Jesse: and hitting the road
to innisfree
me: i don't know, i'll probably get up around 7:30?
8?
Jesse: to the bee-oud glade
me: and then shower
Jesse: bee-loud glade
me: shit shower shave
brush my teeth
Jesse: beel-loud glade
me: get dressed
want to get some breakfast?
Jesse: bee-loud glade
me: stop that
Jesse: probably not
bee
me: okay
Jesse: ok
me: put on make up
fuck around and waste time all morning
and then get on the train to go to depaul
Jesse: ok, i shall arise and go to innesfree
Sent at 5:46 PM on Wednesday
Jesse: bye
off to innisfree

― Jenny, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a snapshot into My Life with Jesse.

― Jenny, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ahahaha!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

The annotated conversation

Jesse: [...]what time are you rising and going to innisfree?
shall you arise and go to innisfree
what time are you getting up?
me: whenevs
Jesse: and hitting the road [pause]
to innisfree (the moment in the re-reading that makes me LOL)
me: i don't know, i'll probably get up around 7:30?
8?
Jesse: to the bee-oud glade*
me: and then shower
Jesse: bee-loud glade*
me: shit shower shave
brush my teeth
Jesse: beel-loud glade*
me: get dressed
want to get some breakfast?
Jesse: bee-loud glade*
me: stop that
Jesse: probably not
bee*
me: okay
Jesse: ok

During this exchange I was so unreasonably jacked up on caffeine that I felt as though I was hallucinating. *=unintentional typos.

― Jesse, Thursday, 8 March 2007 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i was going to say something about how your thumbnail sketch would be something about ass. or maybe feminine folds. but here you are quoting yeats too.

I'm an enigma wrapped in a mystery, enveloped in ass-folds.

― Jesse, Thursday, 8 March 2007 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oy.

How did I end up with so many duplicate files?? Fortunately iTunes has a "show duplicates" function. Unfortunately, the only way to remove duplicates without accidentaly removing say a remix or live version of a song with the same title) is to go through and do it manually.

Show Duplicates beginning: 4900-some
Show Duplicates now: 1003

That's about 3,900 clicks.

― Jesse, Thursday, 8 March 2007 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I've spent a good couple hours pruning out my duplicates, too. My main problem is that one version of the song might be on a playlist, and so I want to make sure that that one stays, or else the playlist is fucked.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. Now I remember one reason iTunes is the Devil. I want to hear "Tin Man" by America. But this computer is not authorized to play that song because I bought the fucker from iTunes store and I don't remember my password.

― Jesse, Thursday, 8 March 2007 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going through iTunes hell right now too. Trying to fill up my new iPod, but most of my music is on an external hard drive and iTunes doesn't know where the tunes are half the time. Also my laptop can only run iTunes for like 10 minutes before overheating and crashing. :( :( :(

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone on Jenny's other (dead) board said it best: "iTunes runs like a fat kid in gym class."

My music is on my external HD also, but I just relocated my official iTunes Music folder there.

My iTunes question: Is there some way to make the library automatically recognize changes in the Music folder? When I add stuff I have to manually go to File --> Add Folder (or file) to Library -->[file or folder name]. Also, when I move things around (e.g., if half of 1 album is under The Arcade Fire, and the other half is under Arcade Fire, and I consolidate them into one folder) then I still have to do it manually.

Is this just how it is?

(I went to ilounge.com and didn't see any answers to my problem.)

― Jesse, Thursday, 8 March 2007 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Why are you using itunes again?

http://www.mlipod.com/

― Jeff, Thursday, 8 March 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"iTunes runs like a fat kid in gym class."

HA!

Unless you have a Mac or a gig of ram. In which case it's lurvely.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the new Maximo Park album; it starts out strong but loses energy after the first few songs. And I thought they were French, not British?

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

They sound British though. Very Futureheads-y.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Maxïmo Park are an English indie rock band, signed to Warp Records, who formed in 2003. Drawing comparisons to Pulp and Franz Ferdinand, Maxïmo Park were, along with cohorts The Futureheads, North-East England's response to the post-punk revival of the 2000s.

Kitten is at the vet awaiting fixing. I forgot to not feed her last night, oops.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you tell the vet that?

― Jenny, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, they said it's okay, they'll just do her later in the morning.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick, you must have been confused by the diaresis over the "i."

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops, vet just called, it's a no go b/c she didn't fast long enough. I am dumb.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh, I could have sworn that I read they were French somewheres. I wish I had the north English accent that the Futureheads and Field Music have.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Drat, Jordan! It's okay, though. That's an easy mistake to make, plus it's better that they don't do it then risk something bad happening. She might get diaresis or something.

― Jenny, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Diaresis of a Madman was probably my favorite ozzy album.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? My favorite peanut butter-based candy item is Diaresis' Pieces.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Severe diaresis can lead to anal fissures.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I really didn't have to go there, did I?

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, this is bad. I'm walking to work today, for what's going to be a really busy day, and all I'm thinking is, "I think I'll revive that thread about how bald guys are sexy."

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't do that, I'm going to be busy today and can't obsess over a crush thread. Maybe tomorrow?

― Laurel, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

So if the Olympics DID come to Chicago, someone would probably be forced to pony up some $$$ to fix up the CTA, right?

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes.

I want the Olympics to come here. It will be like another World's Fair.

― KitCat, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

really i just wanted to post a bunch of pictures of Brian Eno. No crushing required.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Except that I have a crush on Brian Eno. It's not sexual, really. It's a different thing. An Eno crush.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i really wish i had a copy of marquee moon with me because that record helps me do stuff. for a kind of swirly, laid back record it's a real motivator for me. anyway, it's sunny out, it's going to be above freezing today and i feel like a million bucks.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard MM. Someone needs to burn it for me because I'm clearly never going to buy it.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

That is a fantastic record. Yes. Title track is almost too short.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm imagining what it's like to get off at Addison during a Cubs home game crossed with riding the train full of sweaty, muscle men in tank tops a la the Gay Games and multiplying that by a giant, Olympic-sized stadium and getting a little terrified.

Anyway, I'm skeptical. I don't like how we basically have to want the Olympics to get the CTA repairs that we need. I am also skeptical that the people who live in Washington Park now aren't going to get much of a voice in the process and are going to get screwed.

― Jenny, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, I will YSI Marquee Moon to you if you send me the old Field Music album you have.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I am also skeptical that the people who live in Washington Park now aren't going to get much of a voice in the process and are going to get screwed.

That is my one big concern. An Olympic stadium in your neighborhood is something beyond mere gentrification.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Done.

(I just have to dig the cd out of my car)

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

all i know is that walsh construction will have all of the city's money if chicago gets the games. right now they only have most of it.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, well I won't be sending you Marquee Moon until I get home this afternoon, track down the cd, and put it on my computer, so no rush.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't ever zipped/rar'ed up a whole album, it'll be educational.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Right click, create archive... at least that's all I ever do.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Best to rip it to mp3 first.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, cool.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the best Hoot Night performances I ever saw was for the "Tom, Dick, and Harry" theme, and some band I don't even recall did the title track from Marquee Moon (the Tom in question being T. Verlaine), all 10+ minutes of it, with every solo completely faithful to the original. It was awesome.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

okay and by the way
i want to say that
i think you're great and
i know what people say
you're a heartbreaker
it's just your way

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm in the high point of my night, I feel so impressive, life,
All this time with the Marquee Moon, but just waitin'.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw television at the metro about years ago (so long ago that i think hstencil and towga watched from the balcony while i was on the floor) and there was a dude in front of me who had to be 50 who was TOTALLY overemotive during marquee moon and venus de milo. with flailing air guitar and everything. in the middle of a packed metro floor.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I've bragged about this before, but I have the Elektra promo copy of that record from my college radio station. When I was a freshman, the Programming Director got rid of a lot of vinyl that they replaced with CDs. The record is beat to shit and the sleeve is held together with duct tape. I have mp3s too and they sound better.

At the same vinyl giveaway I also got The Joshua Tree and Bossanova. These are also beat up, though not quite as badly.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think i own it anymore. i know i bought the vinyl at reckless after i broke my cd but i think that wound up in california during the division of assets.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, i do own it because i wound up with her copy of the cd.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

It's one of the few albums we own on both CD and LP. The only other one I can think of off the top of my head is "Do the Math" by the Peechees.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Deep deep deep deep doodoodoo
Deep deep deep deep doodoodoo
Deep deep deep-a-deep-deep, deep-a-deep-deep, deep-a-deep-deep doo
Deep deep deep deep doodoodoo
Deep deep deep deep doodoodoo
Deep deep deep-a-deep-deep, deep-a-deep-deep, deep-a-deep-deep doo

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Name that tune.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not by Television or the Peechees.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Or Peaches.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

My first thought was "Glass" by Gang of Four, but then I think that's more like

Deep deep deep deep deep-a-doo-doo.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"Deep Doodoo" by the Shit Shovelers

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"Deep in the Heart of Texas"

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

It's an instrumental.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Stereolab?

― Jeff, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Getting warmer...

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

It was "Popcorn" by Hot Butter.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Well that was exciting.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea who that is.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice work, Nick.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

(Dan, it was a novelty hit in the early 70s. You've probably heard it.)

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

It made extensive use of the Moog synthesizer, and has an awesome drumbeat.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It isn't really that good though.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to keep harping on C0ugar but some local dude posted this:

You know how Television has 10 or 12 distinct styles/moods?

C0ugar is doing one of them. On the plus side, they are doing that one mood very well. On the minus side, if you aren't interested in that one mood there's nothing else there.

Fuck. Television was such a great band. More bands should emulate them.

No idea if he's in the right ballpark or not but I'm guessing no.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

He lost me at "10 or 12 distinct styles/moods."

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah. WTF?

― KitCat, Thursday, 8 March 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Hm, I didn't recognize the song on itunes but I don't think they had the HOTT BUTTER version.

Shuffle mode is grebt:

"No Way Out" - Sebadoh
"Today has Been a Fucked Up Day" - Beck
"Krug Calling Retik" - GRAVITAR
"Stuck on Pussy Drive" - Kool Keith
"Sleep" - Dystopia

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

COME ON GUYS EVERYONE KNOWS THAT

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

If gnuILX had avatars I think I would have a Gravitar avatar.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

omg kool keith sex style

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

represent what?

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Chicago just really boring today?

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Come on guys, spring is on the verge of springing.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

can not play ipod at work anymore because all "non encrypeted external drives" are now banned from being attached to gvt owned workstations here. ;_;

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

yesterday i saw my first robin of the season, i was just outside and saw multiple robins meaning spring is even closer. i'm guessing.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I have these stupid earphones that have buds on the end that are like the earplugs that you roll up and then they expand in your ear. They are stupid because the earplug parts keep falling off. I finally managed to lose one of them today and so I borrowed Sarah's earphones to bring with me but they sound so bad and tinny I can't listen to music with them.

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Spring won't spring for 2 months. Don't be fool by the forecast.

― Jeff, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

f u captain bringdown!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.fluxw.com/debbie.gif

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy shit, Ian (of Ian's Pizza) is opening up a bagel joint here.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i think next year i'm going to leave the city for the whole teasing, depressing month of april and go somewhere that they actually have spring in april.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

There isn't spring in April here???

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

what?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

only by comparison.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm ready for heat, you guys. Buying air conditioners and shit.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

April in Austin is nice.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

It's beautiful here today. I just spent half an hour waiting for a ride outside the tire place, jacket open, playing soccer with pieces of icy snow.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's almost springing now, there are birds singing outside!

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

IT IS SUMMER

SO EXCITED YOU GUYS

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I want fat, sweaty, boxer shorts and wife beater weather.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd settle for weather that doesn't require a winter jacket.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm just being bitchy. It is nice outside today. I need to eat.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I look stoned all the time with these new contacts. For some reasont they make me want to keep my eyes half closed.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

did anyone ever answer jesse's question about thirsty thursdaying yesterday? cause i'm starting to get a feeling.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I know it's spring because for the last few days when I've come in to work in the morning, yesterday's teabag is still wet and easily removed, rather than all dried up and stuck to the bottom of my mug.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Like Professor Martin Luther King said, I have a feeling.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

My lunch, let me tell you about it.

I had some wonderful leftovers. Nick made mashed potatoes with greens mixed in and corn on the side. mmMMph!

― KitCat, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I green beans, corn, and mashed potatoes, of a frozen variety. The mashed potatoes needed work, but ain't nothing wrong with frozen veggies. Beats the hell outta mystery meat.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I wanted to go home and eat my fried chicken + salad leftovers, but my car was unavailable so I settled for a "Cuban" ham sandwich at Einstein's. It was okay.

mashed potatoes with greens mixed in

Are you sure you don't mean "cheese" mixed in?

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"Pop" by the Aluminum Group is my favorite light-hearted pop song about somebody who gets strung out on drugs, turns into a giant jerk, and alienates everyone he knows.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I just decided that.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

No, no. It was definitely greens.

― KitCat, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone else had ordered potbellys and the owner got us a bag of mini oatmeal choco chip cookies to share. They were ridonc.

― KitCat, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... ridonc. I like it.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ridoncadonk

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, that last post of mine was stupid, and I regret it.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

/kenan

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

faux kenan posts kills threads dead.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

sry duderinos

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, leave the asshattery/apologies to the experts.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The problem, dan, is that you're just too nice and everybody likes you.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

awwwwwwwww thx

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

aaaand dead again

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Not my fault this time.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, I got hot sauce in my eye.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan, just sent you the link to Marquee Moon, hope it works

― n/a, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh ouch, dude. Did you eat something with hot sauce and then absendmindedly rub your eye? Cause I've totally done that.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I did it at lunchtime today, too.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

(great combo with still-new contact lenses btw)

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the dudes on my team just came over asking for my opinion on possible designs for his 2007 go-karting helmet. He had like five full-color printouts and shit!

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan & John, just be thankful it wasn't hot sauce dick.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

IT BURNSSSSS

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, was that a Porno Gil reference?

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

You lost me.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

SOMEOENJUST GAVE ME CCHOCOLAET COVERED ESPRESSO BEANS OMG

― Laurel, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Porno Gil = Curb Your Enthusiasm episode, guest starring Bob Odenkirk. Hilarious, of course.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

that's like crack-lite laurel, be careful.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I haven't seen that one. But I will.

I love crack beans.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it was tabasco in the ass that's the trick. Very funny episode.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Omg how does anyone keep up with this thread?

― Ivan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

warped priorities.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG SPOLIER

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah. I haven't mentioned any of the other 300 funny things in that episode.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I had hot sauce on my Tokyo Lunchbox tofu teriyaki, and then about 20 minutes later, my left eye started to itch. Bingo. Wasn't too bad.

I'm sure I've told some of you about "the jalapeno incident." I'm not repeating it here.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Mine was gardinera oil. Not water soluble for extra bonus burn time!

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Gardinera peppers are pretty serious.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

who needs this

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"Hotter coming out than going in." Oh goodie! Saves me the trouble of putting hot sauce DIRECTLY IN MY ASS.

― kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Wonder if they got the name from this.

― jaymc, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I like hot food, and hot sauces. But all those OMG HOTT MACHO ATOMIC MAGNUM BLAST 2000 DOT COM type hot sauces are a stupid waste. Generally flavorless, hot to the point that it's not even a nice accent, just palate-destroying acidic nastiness.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do I have heartburn? I've eated nothing but water for the last four hours.

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

WAI U BURN HART

― Jordan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

so no tt tonight?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe i'll go to old timers by myself just to see what the place is really like.

i love any bar where a blind guy comes in with his seeing eye dog.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmmmmmmmm... I really should do laundry.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't tonight, but I don't think laundry rates as a reason not to go out, really.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, i don't think i'm really going but i really am going to that bar in uptown tonight if anyone wants to come along.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

ACC Tournament tonight.

― Jeff, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

ACC Tournament tonight.

GO BC!!!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

OK man, I figured as much. Maybe I'll drop a text if I'm feelin' up to Uptown.

― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/08/walkable.cities.ap/index.html

How is Charlotte on this list? Have things changed?

― Jeff, Friday, 9 March 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

how i always heldd close to your fear.

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

fallfallfallfallfallintothewalls
covermyfaceastheamimalsdie

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 06:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Greg Kot gets the early scoop on Pitchfork Fest line-up; it now lasts three days but the initial bands mentioned seem kind of underwhelming to me. I'm sure things will improve though.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

kot can not actually believe the paybacks are detroit's finest can he? they're really awful. and i'm not sure why that band, on paper, should be awesome but on record they're bland recycled bar/garage rock. although the version of "black girl" that's on "sympathetic sounds of detroit" is kick ass nothing they've done in the intervening 6 years has been remotely interesting. even when they re-recorded that song for their full length they stripped it of whatever feeling it had and put a high gloss finish on it.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Sure, Kot can believe that, because he's a ninny.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.icpaonline.net/smallkotphoto.jpg

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

ninny is a great word and one i should use more often. it's so dismissive and if you try to rebuke the ninny tag you only wind up sounding like a bigger one.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i really miss images being replaced by links.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's just an image of Greg Kot looking like a ninny.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually like Kot quite a bit. Don't always agree with him, but he's a sharp guy. (Also he gave deej a job.) DeRogatis is still a doofus.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I was worried "ninny" might have homophobic implications, but all the definitions I see online basically just say it means a fool or simpleton. They think it might be a simplication of "an innocent." Interesting!

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, this organic pizza place that the Reader put on its front page this week is going to be like half a block from our house. I hope it's good.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't really like any of the rock critics in town since bob mehr left for memphis.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't clicked the link but i take it that it's the one on division? the use of intentionally whimsy in the slogans in the front window makes me kind of dubious.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Just a guess, but I would imagine the real "best band out of Detroit" would involve Fred Thomas.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

right now i'd say it's human eye but what do i know.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Mehr is completely unmemorable to me. What did you like about him, Kevin?

I will say that Kot's writing is the sort of workmanlike prose you can expect from a daily newspaper guy, but he generally knows what he's talking about, and his tastes are surprisingly eclectic for someone in his position (e.g. Girl Talk ending up on his top 10 last year).

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

[Removed Illegal Image]

Whatever for? Gregg Kott is obviously a huge cock smoker.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

his tastes are surprisingly eclectic for someone in his position

END ROCK CRITIC AFFIRMATIVE ACTION

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, I officially fucking hate these new tags. Who made this shit up, and why, when there's already perfectly good BBcode that mode people are at least passingly familiar with? Especially the link tag. There has never been another tag like it, making it not only counterintuitive but totally illogical.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I totally made my point with that devastating zing.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Spicy food is beginning to give me gastrointestinal distress. That frightens me. I love spicy food.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i got post bar cheeseburgers last night and they were so fucking good. i kinda wish i had a couple more right now.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

CORNED BEEF HASH FOR BREKKY. Not going to lose any weight on the corned beef hash diet but OH no regrets.

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i never get tired of seeing pictures of the bean:

http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicago_rachelle/2007_03_pod_djames.jpg

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I ate hot green curry, followed by chips and hot tomatillo salsa, and woke up this morning with my lower g.i. tract devoutly wishing to be rid of these irritants.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I lurve that picture. Especially the people in it... lying on the ground, snuggling with an s.o., etc.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, have you ever heard Cuckold? They're fronted by an ex-Gravitar dude. I wish they'd come here and play. They're sort of like a Laughing Hyenas/Mudhoney type trio.

Here is their Myspace, even though it's probably blocked for ya...

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

myspace is blocked but yes i've heard of cuckold, they're playing with the moonlight (ex-dirtys, ex-compulsive gamblers), chrome spiders (tom potter's new band), and timmy vulgar (ex clone defect, currently of human eye) at the hamtramck this weekend. unless it was last night.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Lightning Bolt is playing at some UofC coffeeshop on March 31. I am tempted to go.

I am listening to the new Wilco album, it's really really really boring so far.

I am full of opinions today! Does anyone have any questions about my opinions on anything?

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

er, the hamtramck blowout.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah yes, a number of my Detroit friends are attending said Blowout.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

nick, in your opinion should i go to paul cary/gay baby show at phyllis' or the clockcleaner/times new viking show at permanent records tonight? i've seen clockcleaner before but not TNV but i'm friends with the people in gay baby and it's their 2nd show (and 1st chicago show). what say you nick?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, i kind of wish i was going to that. i want to see chrome spiders.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

<i>Opening night will be devoted to "legendary" rock, rap and experimental music performers, each doing a "classic album" in its entirety, a festival spokesman says.</i>

How it's done!

― Eazy, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Rats, I want to see TNV. I've always missed them one way or another.

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The only one of those bands I've heard of is Times New Viking, so go to that. Plus, Phyllis' is dumb.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

PETER FRAMPTON!!!! 3RD BASS!!!!! YOKO ONO!!!!!!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, plus that show starts at 9 so i could probably scoot up to phyllis' if it gets over early. i never heard of permanent records until this show, has anyone here been there? 1900 block of chicago?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's a nice little record store. You can buy the FF album there.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

It's pretty tiny.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm eating cream of wheat with strawberries in it which is the opposite of both spicy food and corned beef hash.

"Lighting Bolt" and "coffee shop" seems like an odd artist/venue combination.

― Jenny, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick, I only got as far as ripping five Field Music songs last night before iTunes crapped out (either 'cause of scratched cd or shitty computer, I'm not sure but I'm guessing the latter). I tried sending those to you but apparently YSI sucks these days? It kept saying I should upgrade my browser and never completed a transfer.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I think LB typically avoids playing "rock venues."

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll try sendspace, all the kids are using it?

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw them at the bottle.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been eating really well all week but I think it might be the day for a greasy diner lunch. I think this time I'll try the place at Montrose and Western.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Though I am also making pizza for dinner tonight, so maybe I shouldn't.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant to eat well and go to the gym last night. Instead I watched a Neil Hamburger dvd, work on some beats, ate a piece of fried chicken and crashed.

Nick, what is your opinion of Neil Hamburger???

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I was all excited because I never order lunch with everyone at work, but today decided that, hell, it's Friday and, hell, maybe I'll participate in the office lunch ordering for once. I'll be a joiner. So this morning I announced that to a couple of coworkers who gave me a pitying look and said, Oh, Sarah, no one is going to be in the office for lunch. We'll all be out at the job site for a meeting.

Why did I forget to bring my book today? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Thankfully, it should at least be nice out when I walk to find myself some lunch somewhere.

Check out my weather forecast

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

today is pay day so i think i might treat myself to a decent dinner tonight. STEAK AND TATERS, STEAK AND TATERS!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

SARAH YOU CAN'T WIN

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Neil Hamburger is funny.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Though I've only seen bits and pieces on YouTube.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I respect the schtick.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i'm the only person i know who doesn't like neil hamburger.

like i said, what do i know.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

You don't know much about history. Don't know much biology.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French you took

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't know much about geography
Don't know much trigonomitry
Don't know much about algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I bet you don't know nuffin bout birthin babies.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's good shtick. The dvd was pretty funny, although I'd heard that he got the crowd pretty riled up and it seemed to me like they were definitely in on the joke.

Even though it's part of the shtick, the throat-clearing and hocking up really disturbs me.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

actually i do know something about birthing babies, courtesy of the "marriage and family" class i took in college after the sociology class i wanted was cancelled.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

You're the only kind of knowledge they don't teach at any college; you're an education in yourself.

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I totally made my point with that devastating zing.

No, I was just on my way to work.

I'm not sure that I think that rock critics should be eclectic in their tastes. And I certainly frown upon the practice of deliberately making your top-10 lists eclectic to make a point. But Kot's eclecticism makes him a more interesting person to me. DeRo can be predictable sometimes, while Kot often surprises me.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

DeRo and Kot are both positively turdy.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I am listening to the new Wilco album, it's really really really boring so far.

When Renee (who goes to see Wilco/Tweedy every single time they play) said it was boring, I was like whoa, okay.

Have I ever mentioned that I know someone who made out with one of the new Wilco members a few months ago?

I'll try sendspace, all the kids are using it?

Yeah, I prefer it these days, mostly because I don't have to LOG IN. The only disadvantage is that you can't download more than one file at once.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, and sendspace has a 300mb limit, which is plenty for an album, maybe 2.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not about being eclectic; I wouldn't consider liking Girl Talk particularly "eclectic." It's a fun album but not really challenging or even especially innovative. I'm not saying these are bad things, I'm just saying it's not a difficult or controversial album to pick as a favorite. It's a safe "edgy" choice.

This all ties in to really complicated issues about the purpose of popular music criticism in the age of the Internet that I don't really want to get into. But it basically boils down to me wondering why I should read the writing of a music critic who I feel knows less about music than me? That's how I feel about basically all music writers at this point. That's probably pretty conceited. I guess I could want to read their writing if they were just a good writer, but I don't think Kot is an especially good writer either.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah on the new Wilco album: "I listened to the Wilco album getting ready this morning and it was a
complete let-down. :-( I agree. It's boring. Also, Tweedy has had
some BEAUTIFUL pretty slower songs in the past, but these don't even
work as pretty. They're just.., well, boring. Some are easy listening.
Gag me with a spoon, maaaaan."

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Now THAT'S rock criticism.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Liking Girl Talk is not "eclectic" on its own, it's eclectic when it's on the same list as that slapped-together back-to-basics Neil Young album and Mission of Burma. It's also very much a blog/webzine phenomenon, which makes it surprising when a daily newspaper guy like Kot gloms onto it. I'd wager that most newspaper guys just review whatever big CDs they get in the mail. Maybe Illegal Art is sending out promo copies to the Chicago Tribune, but I'd be surprised.

I wouldn't say that Kot is a bad writer, I'd just say that he's an uninteresting one. And to be honest, I don't ever actually read him. I just like listening to him on Sound Opinions.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

It's like, "Wow, he actually made the special effort to take the five minutes it takes to scan Pitchfork every day."

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

why I should read the writing of a music critic who I feel knows less about music than me? That's how I feel about basically all music writers at this point.

Uh, seriously? When I wrote for Stylus, I was constantly awed at how much more all the other staff writers knew than I did. I always told myself that my music writing could still succeed on the basis of it being good, intelligent writing that just happened to use music as its subject. (I think there are a lot of critics who are primarily music fans looking to parlay their obsession into something useful, whereas I consider myself a writer first and foremost.) (And there are a couple people who write singles reviews for Stylus that I think are totally uninteresting writers. I know the format is supposed to be casual, but what's the point of saying something like, "The music is energetic, but it doesn't really do anything for me"? Why bother publishing that??)

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

So guess what? Sarah's flight to Memphis leaves at 5:45 AM tomorrow morning. Meaning we are aiming to get there around 4 a.m. Huzzah!

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"there" = the airport

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I will say that M1ke P0well is one of the few music writers who consistently impresses me.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I scan Pitchfork, too... scan. Sometimes I read it. Most of the record reviews I read are blurby ones from retailers, strangely enough, like Boomkat or Other Music. Not like they don't have a vested interest, but I don't really want big opinions anyway. I want a description, a comparison or two, someone who sounds knowledgeable but not awfully proud of their knowledge beyond just wanting to tell me that this record exists. That's all I usually want to know: THIS RECORD EXISTS. I'll take it from there.

But I do still like feature-y music writing that tries to put things into social context or what have you.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Best people to recommend music to you: your friends. We should have some kind of Chi mix CD exchange.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I am considering doing a jaymc-style year-end mix this year, since I'm actually keeping on top of new music this year for a change. Or I might do four mix CDs, one for every quarter. I don't know.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

For instance, I'd heard Berlinette before, but it wasn't until Jeff expressed his gaga-ness over Ellen Allien that I started really listening. That's something Pitchfork or Gregg Kot would not have convinced me to do.

Now I have dreams about her sometimes. :)

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

And I just feel like this is something that someone whose entire job is knowing about music should not get 'extra credit' for.

He gets extra credit because the vast majority of daily newspaper critics are dumb. I mean, I guess I should couch it all in terms of "compared to other critics like him." And like I said, I do enjoy listening to him every week, too. He seems sharp, and he never falls prey to any of DeRo's juvenile faults (e.g., whenever Kot likes something that DeRo doesn't "get," DeRo will always accuse him of only liking it because of "hero-worship" or "hype" or, if it's a woman, because he has a crush on her. Kot isn't insecure.).

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I touched her once.

― Jeff, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Ellen.

― Jeff, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite thing about good music writing is when a descriptive phrase gets stuck in my head, and then I hear the record later and think, "yeah, you know it DOES sound like that". Or maybe it doesn't, but I'm left wanting to hear (or make) music that sounds like what the words made me hear in my head.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, specialization is more important to me that eclecticism. I'm more likely to listen to the opinion of someone who listens to nothing but ambient drone about an ambient drone record than a professional reviewer who puts one ambient drone record in his yr-end list. Even if it happens to be a good record, how do I know that he knows his shit? I get like this on last.fm users, too... find someone who seems to specialize, and go down the list of their most listened artists.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I will say that M1ke P0well is one of the few music writers who consistently impresses me.

Yeah, I like Mike, too. I always get the impression that he really listens to music and that it affects him profoundly.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Most weekly newspaper critics are dumb too.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I touched her once.

ooh. Did you never wash that hand again?

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I washed it but I saved the bath water.

― Jeff, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, specialization is more important to me that eclecticism.

I should've known you in late 2002 when I got into a big argument with someone about the fact that an employee at Tower Records had a top-10 list filled entirely with Def Jux releases. Certain someone thought that a good top-10 list should inherently be eclectic. I was like, whatever, I appreciate the fact that dude just listens to whatever he likes and is honest about it. And also, hello, this is a top 10 list by SOME DUDE AT TOWER RECORDS, it's not Rolling Stone.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Night Ripper is probably my favorite album from the last 5 years.

― Jeff, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

That's probably not true, but it's up there.

― Jeff, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Best people to recommend music to you: your friends.

Except if your friends have bad taste in music. You realize that we're all friends because we met on a message board that was originally exclusively about music? A lot of my other friends just don't really keep up with music anymore, or else are really excited about Pearl Jam coming to Lollapalooza or whatever.

We should have some kind of Chi mix CD exchange.

We should have a mixtape party like the one EZ's old housemates hosted! That was fun.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

YEAH!

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah that would be awesome.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Best people to recommend music to you: ~~your~~ my friends.

fixed.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I forgot to mention -- there was a woman on the el this morning who was wearing...

a) chartreuse tights
b) chartreuse scarf
c) leopard-print coat
d) black Crocs

Also e) cat's-eye glasses, which made me think she was going for some purposefully outre look, like she was just waiting to be spotted for a role in the next John Waters film, but the whole ensemble was just really unappealing.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

So the rule of the previous mixtape party was everyone brings two copies of their mix and puts it in a box, and then at the end of the night, you reach in and take two mixes. Some of the fun was in the anonymity of it -- I still don't know who took my mix, and I don't know the person who made one of the mixes I took -- because we were at a party with lots of different people from different circles. So we won't have that, but still -- new music.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

That would be fun.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I say we do it. It'll be easier for me to make a mix if it's all anonymous anyway, and I'm not trying to cater to any specific tastes. When I make a mix for someone in particular, I always want their approval.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I wore bubble gum-pink fishnets yesterday, but with proper heeled boots and not with my red Crocs, that would be unspeakable.

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh. I just sent out an e-mail about the two shows coming up (to a broader list than you guys), and I accidentally put everyone in the "to" line instead of the "bcc" line. Not the end of the world, but embassing, since I want to keep folks' e-mails private.

I like music critics (bloggers included) who discover music outside of the new-release PR machine. Tim Perlich in Toronto has a column where he writes about whatever he finds in record stores that week, whether it's old or white-label or whatever. It's no mistake that he was one of the first critics anywhere to write about Beck, Devendra Benhardt, Nirvana, The Ponys (before they got any attention at all in Chicago) and many others.

Greil Marcus and Christgau are that way too - if they miss a record when it's released, they'll still write about it a year or two later, and I admire that.

Anders Smith-Lindall (freelancer with the Sun-Times, Harp, etc.) writes especially good profiles and live-show reviews.

Reader critics are informative and/or enjoyable in different ways.

― Eazy, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

A mix-CD-exchange TTs would be fun.

― Eazy, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to encase my mix cd in black velvet.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Mixtape exchange second/third/fourthed.

Sendspace is aight but it's slow as shit in my experience.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I am listening to Laurel Aitken.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm listening to Laurel achin'.

― Eazy, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I would like a delicious salad for lunch.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i would like a gazelle for lunch.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to go home and have a veggie burger, maybe burn some mixes that I owe people.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm going to have a substandard turkey sub.
i'd really like about 2 1/2 lbs of garlic mashed potatoes and biscuits and gravy and some green beans.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/mag/images/articles/24319.gif

― Jeff, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

kev, I can show you where to get gr8 mashed potatoes in the East Village when u get here.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is this other Laurel person getting all the press? I demand to know.

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

whoo hoo!!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

3 weeks from today i will be hungover in brooklyn. as opposed to hungover at my desk.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel Aitken

[quote]Laurel Aitken (April 22, 1927-July 17, 2005) was a singer who was known as one of the originators of Jamaican ska music in the late 1950s.[\quote]

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Gah, I made the quote tage into LaTeX

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

And misspelled "tag"! I'm going home.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

from the van halen wikipedia entry:

The most widely reported alcohol-related performance issue occurred during the band's first night in Chicago at the United Center when Eddie, staggering about, repeatedly tripped on his guitar cable, causing his guitar to become unplugged eighteen times. As a result, towards the middle of the set, Hagar asked Eddie's guitar tech to come onstage and follow Ed around to keep re-plugging the guitar. Also notable was Eddie stopping in the middle of his Eruption solo, laying down on stage and telling the audience in a slurred voice, "I'm sorry folks, I done run outta gas." He lay there for several seconds before standing back up and continuing.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

lol

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, I just realized I can leave at 5 PM today, based on the overtime I've worked this week.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

christ it just gets better:

Eddie claims he cured the cancer in his tongue by means that are "illegal" in this country. There has been some speculation that crystal meth was the means he used. Further, Eddie claims that cigarettes did not cause his tongue cancer, and so despite having had a third of his tongue removed, he continues to smoke

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed rolls hard.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

but doesn't roll his tongue.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I know a dude who really believes that Eddie threw together a bunch of money and scientists and licked that whole "cancer" problem, it just won't get FDA/corporation-approved.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Because curing cancer wouldn't be profitable? I'm no conspiracy nut, but...

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Eddie threw together a bunch of money and scientists and licked that whole "cancer" problem

pretty harsh way to describe a guy who lost a third of his tongue to cancer.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha That's a great story.

I got my review! WOO HOO!

Hey, random: Does anyone agree that the melody to the chorus in DON'CHA is alot like the hook from Glamorous Life? or am I crazy? or both?

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I just googled "Glamorous Life" -- it's a Sheila E song? I don't think I know it.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Fergie has a new song called just plain "Glamorous."

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep. Sheila E.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, yes! it hadn't occurred to me before, but now that you point it out, they do seem really similar.

― horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I tapdanced to it when I was wee. I wore the black and white costume pictured here.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Listening to it on YouTube now. And yeah, I totally hear it -- it's just the sax part, I think, but it's very similar.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The quality of those pix is horrendous. It was a horrible scan job I did a few years ago. They make me look freakish. I was actually very cute, I swear.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for not correcting me! HA!

Anyway, I'm pumped for my Love's wrap.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Glamorous Life is great. Prince wrote it and Digd0wn recorded it on an album before I was in the band.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Fucking iTunes on my fucking laptop. I tried ripping some more Field Music, it got through five more songs and then just started hanging. Then I tried burning a cd for deej and 10 seconds from the end it sighed and turned itself off.

It really makes me want to spend hundreds of dollars on a new computer just to be able to listen to music for fun without hassle.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The new Field Music is probably my favorite album of 2007 so far.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

it is so beautiful outside right now chicago. the air is warm! WARM!!! the breeze felt great across my face, like having someone stroke my cheek with the back of their fingers. it was sublime.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I just walked up to 57th and back for a haircut and on the way back to work I took my jacket OFF.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

aw yay! I haven't been outside yet, but something to look forward to!

― horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps you were touched by an angel.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to kev

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah I'm making up constant excuses to go outside. I am one cigarette smokin mofo today.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

just mother nature kenan.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/259000/259020XDFC_w.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I was just outside. It's beautiful.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

A coworker brought in choco-chip brownies (!). Today is a good day.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I will be bolting out of here at 5, hopefully to home in time to open up the apartment before it gets dark and cold.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I did a lot of work this morning. Isn't that enough for a Friday? Why can't I go home? WHY?

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Groan. Someone somewhere in the production line is giving out my phone number to astronomy authors and telling them I'm an ".eps Expert". This is not good.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

What would an eps expert be, anyway? Able to identify and open them?

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't much much about astronomy.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, these people use all kinds of kludged-together software to generate PostScript, and quite often don't have access to things like Illustrator. Getting the bounding boxes, fonts, line styles, and colors to work with these things can be an amazing headache sometimes.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Sarah: Me either! :)

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure I've told you this story before, but my freshman year of college I took a course in Cosmology and another course in Astronomy. My dad misheard me and thought I was taking Cosmetology and Astrology. Oh, Dads.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to dan

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Cosmetology and Astrology

Those sound like they would go well together! At least, they would if you were Frenchy from Grease.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahh, I have to do MY 2 year review today (even though it's been almost 3 years) and I just realized that I have to fill out a review of my TL. Due in a few minutes. I hate doing this stuff, and really I don't have any criticisms (that I can state, anyway).

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"It says on your chart you're fucked up, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded."

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

hey chicago...happy almost spring!

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

(reappropriated from the Idiocracy thread. I think the thread is funnier than the movie.)

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

hey kels! Is it as pretty in MN as it is here?

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

it is! it's 45 out, according to the internets. I walked outside without a coat on. I feel more alive!

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking about going to see The Host tonight.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, Kelsey! How is training?

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I am totally going for a run outside instead of at the gym, thanks to this thread!

― horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't find that on IMDB, John. Is it older?

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Funny you should ask, Sarah . . . it hasn't been happening much these days. I got the flu a couple of weeks ago, was out of work for a week & am only now feeling kinda normal. I've mostly struggled with waking up early this week. That's next week's goal.

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I also want to take advantage of getting off work at 5 and going somewhere and having a beer or something. 5!!!

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my god! you're right! i could run outside!! maybe i will do that tonight . . . just a quick little jog for 20 minutes or something. i signed up for a 5K in april & i need to train eventually.

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

is the host the one in the nytimes today? whatever that one was, it sounded good. 300, on the other hand, sounds dreadful.

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't find that on IMDB, John. Is it older?

No, it's a new Korean monster movie.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the deal with 300? It's based on a comic book or something? I've only seen the posters on bus stops, but I get the impression that a lot of people are anticipating it.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

It's based on a Frank Miller comic which I think makes it more 'buzzy' than any ol' comic.

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Whenever I see an ad for it, I think of

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a1/Movie_mr_3000_poster.jpg/200px-Movie_mr_3000_poster.jpg

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, the TV ads for The Host are pitching it as another bloody American horror movie, and downplaying it's Korean-ness, and picking quotes that make it sounds all serious-scary, when in fact there are many more quotes talking about how funny and absurd and genre-bending and clever it is.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"300" will finally turn all you metrosexual men to Kinsey M4Ms, apparently. or to fascists ready to conquer Iran.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Are any of us "metrosexual"?

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"300" will remain unseen by this particular faggo.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

jayms, I think 300 was another Frank Miller comic, and has been given the same frame-for-frame treatment as Sin City?

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Are any of us "metrosexual"?

Depends. Do you moisturize?

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't seen any TV ads for The Host. I think I saw the trailer for it before Children of Men and then read a rave review from Anthony Lane in The New Yorker.

― jaymc, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, but otherwise my elbows crack so bad they bleed in the wintertime. And in that case, we're all the same... on the inside.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The Host looks good. Maybe I'll go later this weekend.

― n/a, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i have a feeling that the next 98 minutes are going to c-r-a-w-l.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

We could see it tonight, Nick.

This movie is currently playing at: Century 12 and CineArts 6 | Crown Village 18 | Landmark's Century Centre | River East 21

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i got 127, buddy. I don't wanna hear it.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i've already been here for 6 hours 56 minutes is the thing though.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Or we could go see Pan's L at the Davis:

Pan's Labyrinth
Daily 5:20, 7:40, 10:00; Sa-Su also 12:40, 3:00

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

someone remarked to me last week how no one would ever use the word metrosexual seriously, and i agreed with her but i guess i stand corrected

― Mr. Que, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i might argue that kenan embraces elements of metrosexuality.

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i prefer "urbansexual". i don't like to go to the outlying metropolitan areas.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

ha!

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I have no time for those suburbsexuals.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

ruralsexuals pretty themselves up for the livestock?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"Suburbsexual" reminds me of a Todd Solondz movie.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

The "sexurbs".

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The "sexurbs". next on cinemax after dark...

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i might argue that kenan embraces elements of metrosexuality.

http://raven.ubalt.edu/oldImages/showcase_metrosexual.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The only resemblance there is in the torso.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG "Dave" Beckham!

"Dave 'Haircut' Beckham"

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I am going to see 300 tonight w/Ev4n. I'm actually not super-excited (never read the comic) but he's been counting the days. From the trailers it looks like a MANPILE.

I'm interested in The Host.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked Sin City as a kind of self-parody (which I'm not sure he meant it as), but Frank Miller is about as arrested-adolescent as they come.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I beieve he is Men. He is the embodiment of what people mean when they disdainfully say, "Men." Jessa has a fun story about his old, gross ass trying to get her back to his hotel room.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

For violent sodomy, one assumes.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

http://marvel.wikia.com/images/thumb/b/bb/Frank_miller.jpg/200px-Frank_miller.jpg

hott.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

He looks like an aging futbol hooligan.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that's essentially the idea.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

all words on ILX are used "seriously"

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, I know... comic book guys may now commence to throwing the tomatoes and telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Lol, make fun of Frank Miller all you want. He's written some good books (and even nu-Frank Miller bad stuff is pretty funny from the right angle), but dude's pretty ridiculous.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It's raining here. :(

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It's ok, rain melts snow.

I have tentatively decided to screw around for most of the last hour of the day.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I went out to Simon's for a drink with my former co-worker from |WJ and he told me about a job there.

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's in New Orleans.

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's ok, rain melts snow.

And more importantly, washes away all the crap that the barely-melted snow leaves everywhere. When the snow finally gives up its vile, greasy offspring.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently I only have dates with married couples now, WTF.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

(srsly, the last three times I've gone out it's been as the third wheel of a couple, and not in a sexy way either)

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Not really.

But I did find out that my successor is going to be let go because he is full of shit and has done absolutely zero work since October. I kind of thought the guy was a bullshitter, but he snowed us.

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently I only have dates with married couples now, WTF.

dates... ?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there any way that would be sexy?

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

A favor please? Could somone give synopsis of today's ILX, plus another for yesterday?

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

bitch bitch bitch
whine whine whine
KITTENS

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Legend oh, legend. The third wheel legend. Always in the way.

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

we haven't gotten to the kittens yet, though. Coming soon.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCKING SUM IT UP.

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahahaha, Dan.

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.amifobornot.com/images/Cat/Very-Funny-Cat-4.jpg

ahh, the classics.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.scottwesterfeld.com/blogimages/cathelmet.jpg

Kitties' greatest hits.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://photos.meetup.com/photos/event/2/4/a/1/event_549377.jpeg

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Sleepy kitties!
http://joe-ks.com/archives_oct2003/CatNap.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Not dates, but you know, I take what I can get.

Today: Nick has opinions, Nick & John argue about rock criticism, we ate foods for lunch, misc complaining about work, hey it is weekend

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my.

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

HEAVENS

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

DEATH BY TWEE

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

That reminds me, someone txt me on Sunday night and remind me to take my cat's food away (to prep for surgery), thx.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i7.tinypic.com/21d1j06.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

No cat I have ever had would have stood for such indignance as being stuck in a miniature sleeping bag. This always makes me wonder if I've always been around crazy cats or if people drug these poor things or what.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost That is my favorite EVER.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

My roomate kittenified.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Except he needs a big bowl of cereal.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

HA! Mine too... No, I think my favorite is Sup.

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270917403_1ae736f6c5.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.rit.edu/~jmw9523/lj/Overdose.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270911970_db35fdd4ca.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda! Dan's friend who wrote book that we publish is going to be reading it in NYC on Sunday, 3/11! Should I go? Y/N

― Laurel, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.doreenmolloy.com/kitten%20in%20the%20slipper.JPG

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.thecuteproject.com/images/items/1055.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

ha! that white cat needs to grow a goatee.

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/j_bdules/Picture001-1.jpg

― JuliaA, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Cats do the darndest things!

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

This is NOT directed at you guys, just saw it the other day and found it funny esp. in view of ILX...

http://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellanea/archive/2006-12-11-cats-not-that-funny.png

Again, NOT directed at youse guys.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to make a "Fuck Haters" cat.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.padrebergamaschi.com/Pets/images/My_Best_Friend.jpg

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.candirandpersians.com/coke1.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

The Host is not playing here. :( :(

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I just died of cute due to cat-dog picture.

― horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Bye!

― KitCat, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Yeah, that one is a maximum SQUEEEEE-inducer.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

LOVE THE CAT DRINKING SODA!!!!

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.dango727.com/d_styles_and_qbert.jpg

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

HOT SAUCE IN THE DICKHOLE.

― Jesse, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It's no Toonces . . .

ihttp://static.flickr.com/81/231369674_6450e795c3_m.jpg

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/81/231369674_6450e795c3_m.jpg

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

clearly, looking for cat photos is exactly what i need to be doing until i realize that i am not doing any work & i should just go home & quit wasting resources. alas,

http://pinkrabbitsays.typepad.com/photos/google_images_strikes_aga/cat_eating_plant.jpg

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ soda cat and hot sauce in the dickhole ("i jumped off a cliff and jacked off!")

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a phenomenon!
http://www.siberian-cat.net/kitten_drinking_coke.jpg

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.petorphans.org/images/volunteering/photos/dog_kiss_kitten.jpg

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok this has gone far enough, I don't believe that cats have the ability to suck.

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

(although I guess they must for nursing, which means I'm dumb, but I've never seen it happen)

― Jordan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i imagine they're just chewing

― kenan, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

demon cat appears to be chewing, i think.

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

but the other cat appears to have just finished with her manicure & is taking a long sip on her diet coke!

― sweet tater, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Bye guys, I'm going home and then I'm gonna go see me some ART.

― dan m, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, you guys are right, this Field Music record is great. Prediction: I will listen to this a lot.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

oooh that makes me mad. Pudding, Monster and Trouble are not like triangles! They are perfectly formed kitties aka poop with fur!
triangles don't eat crunchies!
Plus they are more football shaped (Pudding and Trouble) due to excessive crunching on crunchies. Monster is very furry but sleek - due to the fact that he KNOWS he is a small version of a panther. Spring is here - I anticipate many tiny birds to meet untimely deaths.
Triangles don't kill birds! I hate triangles!
Also, I hate that he kills birds, but it's not easy to stop it.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Attention: The dumb ass who decided to start DST 3 weeks earlier. Fuck you. You are causing a whole lot of pain for some IT departments. I'll see you in hell!

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse -- stop that. I can't be the only one who doesn't know what the FUCK you're talking about.

I just discovered that whoever tagged my copy of "Midnight Train to Georgia" put a grocers' apostrophe in it. "Glady's Knight and the Pips." Who has an apostrophe in their name?

Our education system is doomed. DOOMED.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 03:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, I can understand if you think that some words need an apostrophe to make them plural, as in "tomato's" or "potato's". Because the "es" ending is counterintuitive, and in some cases, even optional. (Hence the name grocers' apostrophe.) But to think that all letters "s" require an apostrophe? To put an apostrophe in "Gladys"? I hope that dude's mother was names Gladys and beat him for that.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, the kitty/triangle post was copied from the "kitties are human" thread. I think it's hilariou's as a non-sequitir.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Triangles don't kill birds! I hate triangles!

I mean seriously, does this make anyone else LOL besides me?

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Ken'n.

― Eazy, Saturday, 10 March 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK YOU, FUCKING TRIANGLES!

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270911970_db35fdd4ca.jpg

That's one ugly fucking cat. I wisht that cat were a triangle instead.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/landsat_art_karman.jpg

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

that is way better looking than that cat. whatever that is, it just needs to be heated and stirred with a large wooden spoon, and it will be a delicious sauce. "Blood Milk Sauce," we'll call it. It will be a huge hit among people who don't know what they're eating.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Google searches for "blood milk sauce" turn up nothing; searches for "blood + milk" turn up only the worst sort of vegetarian horror stories; and searches for "blood + milk + sauce" turn up Iceland. We need to find to a successful synthesis of blood and milk, because I cannot believe the has never been one. I bet it was dairy-blood-licious.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I think 300 made me gay. For men.

― Jordan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

as opposed to...

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously, I've never seen more hairless washboard abs in a movie. It's a total manpile.

― Jordan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I TOLD YOU.

Actually, you told yourself. WHY?

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Because tonight I asked out the furniture girl who I had a crush on and she has a boyfriend, so I figured gay, why not?

― Jordan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

:( :(

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah it's cool, I'm just glad I did it so I can stop thinking about it. And 300 really is a hilarious movie.

― Jordan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I think 300 made me gay. For men.

I'll be right over.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, it's 3:40 a.m.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The visuals are ridiculous, but this is such a good song.

― Eazy, Saturday, 10 March 2007 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link

A discovery: next to most soul music, Ray Charles is heavy metal. I dl'd the "Best of Atlantic" CD last night, and shit is RAW. Forget that stupid movie, Ray Charles is for real.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I left my living room window open all night, and the floor is freezing, and it's maybe 50 in here what with the heater competing with the breeze all night, and I LOVE IT. It's sunny out and the high today is near 50 and I'm listening to Motown and the snow is all melted. SO EXCITED YOU GUYS.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh... "Just My Imagination" by The Temptations. Everything is ok. Really.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

You know who else likes open windows and sunshine? Kitties.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The lake front path is packed. You'd think these people have never seen 40 degrees and sunshine.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Just My Imagination is great. I've got Prince doing a live version somewhere that's pretty sweet too.

― Jordan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

oh! ysi!

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard a dj on the radio this morning suggesting that people check out the lakefront path today because it's so nice out. I was like, "I know where I'm not going today."

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It's actually not that bad. Just a lot of puddles are causing some traffic jams.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I will, whenever I can convince this rickety computer to do it.

― Jordan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, are we still doing the CHILX All-Star Jam this weekend? Y/N?

― jaymc, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, a dumb, boring iTunes question: (forgive if I've already asked this...can't remember)

Why does my library not automatically update when I make changes to the folder where my music lives? For example, I added a new album to the iTunes Music folder, but I had to manually import it. Also, when I delete or move a file, iTunes does not know what happened.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I shaved my head again.

It went like this: I went to Supercuts at 9:15, and it opens at 9. There were already three dudes in front of me. I waited for 45 minutes while women with appointments came in and were served immediately. I was like, "You can make an appointment at Supercuts? Rly?" I wasn't even the first one to walk out. I was third. I was one of a continuing sequence of people walking out.

Then I got home, looked in the mirror, and said to myself, "Self, you can't live with this hair anymore. You have had permanent bedhead and a nasty cowlick for coming on two months." And then I shaved my head. During the scissors part of the process, I nicked my ear, and if you've ever nicked your ear, you know that it NEVER stops bleeding. Well, never until a few minutes ago.

Anyway. I am bald again. Look for me on WDYLL.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still up for allstar jam. I can either do today or tomorrow. I'll call dudes soon I guess.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, did you actually shave, or just shear closely?

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't break out the razor, no, but I'm bald as hell all the same. I can get a sunburn on top of my head now.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan said last night that tomorrow might work better for him.

― jaymc, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, that's fine ... do we want to aim for around 1 or 2 p.m. tomorrow (Sun)? John, you may want to bring your keyboard if that's possible. We have the Farfisa at the space, which we can try to use if you want, but I thought it was out of tune. However, when I checked it against my guitar tuner it seemed to actually be in tune, so who knows?

Jordan! Thanks for finally getting the Field Music album to me, and it's actually the first album plus the EP they did after that. Which is exciting, because the EP has "You're Not Supposed To," which I've been watching the video for on iTunes and I'm kind of obsessed with.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It is so nice outside. I walked to Sunshine Cafe on Chicago and ate a spinach and feta omelette while reading Donald Barthelme. It was fun. But now I don't know what to do with myself.

John, did you end up seeing The Host last night? If so, was it worth seeing? Though it seems like a waste to go see a movie in this weather. Though no more of a waste than sitting around in front of the computer.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

OH BY THE WAY JEFF

I switched back to iTunes because while I like a lot of things about Winamp (esp. the fact that when you stop a song, it fades it out instead of just STOPPING dead) but it was not playing nice with my iPod (when trying to transfer music, it would send 1 song, then freeze up).

Believe me, I would have preferred to have said FU to iTunes forever, but it won this time.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I can do tomorrow afternoon. I'm going to a play at 7 p.m., but that shouldn't keep us all from dropping acid.

― Eazy, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

http://bp3.blogger.com/_JX_a-Etx8Wc/Rd8dhlXUWYI/AAAAAAAAAAM/0MNxdgzLls4/s1600-h/aprendendoanadar2bd.gif

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Today is great acid weather.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I still have some leftover 'shrooms in my freezer if anyone wants them. I grew them myself a few years ago and moved them from NC to here. (Funny story: J/J and I were tripping and the female J said, "You totally have to bring these along when we move to Chicago." So I did. Then when I mentioned it to her later, she had a heart attack. Not that funny, really.)

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

today IS great acid weather. TOTALLY OTM.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU GUYS I DON'T DO DRUGS

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

though I am kind of bored

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Acid and bald. That would totally be my new username if I could pick.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

OK time to get off the computer and LIVE MY LIFE

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I was worried Julia would be horrified at my bald head, but she said, "You amuse me." Heh. That's a worthy role in life, I think.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, 2pm sunday, nick's place? is that the plan?

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

John, you may want to bring your keyboard if that's possible.

Yeah, I was planning on that. You guys have amps?

John, did you end up seeing The Host last night?

Nah, we ended up going to the art opening with Dan, and then for drinks at Skylark and, later, Small Bar (Logan Sq.)

― jaymc, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I still have some leftover 'shrooms in my freezer if anyone wants them.

You should've told me that before I bought $50 worth last week.

― jaymc, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously?

Anyway, I only have a little bit.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus, after 3 years, I wonder how effective their shroomitude would be.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

enough for me, man. Hand em over!

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

$50

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's high time I did a little hallucinogen and reset my brain.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

$50 for old freezer shrooms that you just said might not work? Come on, take some kinda loss.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

2PM Sunday sounds all right. Nick, can you either email me directions or post them here?

― dan m, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll give you ten bucks. And all your stuff back. Three years is ridonculous.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

[link This is my practice space. The address is on the bottom of the page.]http://www.cpesound.com/[link] It's in the vicinity of Damen and Grand: Carroll is like two blocks south of Grand. The practice spaces are on the fourth floor, though there's nothing on the other floors so don't worry about getting off at the wrong floor. My space is the third door on the left, across from the office.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn it. Well, you see the link: www.cpesound.com.

I'll probably get there around 1 and start setting up mics and whatnot.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

[/link]

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I know. I just missed that.

The building is across the street from [Removed Illegal Link]

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh fuck you in the nuts.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

from [Where I Got Shot At]

― Eazy, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'M TELLING YOU, THESE NU TAGS SUCK ROCKS.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've just been copy/pasting from the examples at the bottom and then filling in the necessary bits.

― dan m, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't include "weird" punctuation marks (like apostrophes and question marks) in links.

― jaymc, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

WHICH IS ESPECIALE BULLSHIT

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry, didn't turn off the "yell" key

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The nu-code wouldn't be so bad if I could do download a Firefox extension that made it as easy as the BBCodeXtra thing (where you highlight, right-click and then do things like make a link, italics, image, etc.). Seriously, the link code is about as bass-ackwards as anything I've ever seen.

It might be passe by now, but I'm still inclined to curse you-know-who every time I have to use nu-code.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

(I know, I know, there were weaknesses in the old ILX that could have been exploited by anyone with the know-how to do so, and it needed to be fixed anyway, but still, he is kind of the king of the sort of people who would exploit the weaknesses, and therefore deserves a short curse everytime I have to go through a few extra steps to create a simple link.)

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I don't know who.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope you don't mean Jon Williams.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, by the way, while I'm busy cursing things, I would like to CURSE THE FUCK OUT OF iTUNES.

Hey iTunes: fuck you for erasing all instances of The Strokes from my hard drive!

I was importing 3 discs to the library (File--Import Folder--Strokes, just as I have done a million times before) and they didn't show up. Now they are NOWHERE on my computer, including the recycle bin. Completely gone!

[/FU-iTunes]

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at ppl not knowing how to use their machines.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry jesse, but itunes does not erase files unless you tell it to.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I told you exactly what I did. I've used iTunes before, and this has not happened.

It was kind enough to leave behind the artwork for the 3 albums I had though.

Anyway, if I had somehow blacked out and made iTunes erase my files, they would be in the recycle bin. A thorough search of my internal and external HDs has revealed no trace of the music files.

― Jesse, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

here's my thing with iTunes: it's better. But it has problems. Namely: 1) it's processor intensive; 2) it's memory intensive; 3) it acts like a Mac. If you don't know how to use a Mac already, iTunes will seem alien to you, even if what it does is designed to be very simple and straightforward. And it actually IS simple, really, if Mac has colonized your brain already, as it has mine. iTunes does not fit very well into PC Land. In Mac World, you tag and organize everything en masse, and you keep up with it, or ELSE. Or else you have a great big mess of files with no direction in life. Mac's easier, but it's also more authoritative, and a lot of PC users resent that. They want to tag everything the way THEY want it. Which is what I meant the other day when I mentioned how assigning yourself administrative duties re: your music collection was the realm of giant nerds.Who really WANTS to do that?

Everything else is just not being used to it.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

And if your computer truly makes files disappear, you prolly need a new computer.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Try foobar2000. Or MusikCube. Or Media Monkey.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

boy was that post contradictory. "mac is easier because it makes you organize things, which makes you not have to work to organize things, which makes it easier than a PC."

It's madness, but it's SO TRUE.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

All of which I have tried, but don't like for one reason or another. MusikCube and foobar are okay if you want something really stripped down. Can't vouch for how well ipod intergration is though.

I've been having trouble with Winamp lately, the new version doesn't like my Last.FM plugin. If I have it enabled, it throws my cpu up to 100%. That is odd.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

shut up jeff. You're just going to have to explain how to install and use more and more software. Which then gets right back to my lol at not knowing how to use a computer.

IF YOU WANT EASY, USE A MAC.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, what Kenan said. But then he is going to be your helpdesk for a mac, since I haven't used one in a couple of years.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

What I would like, is for more people to use the Album Artist tag. It's useful when tagging compilations. So you could put Michael Mayer for the Album Artist, and then the individual artists for the Artist tag.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

after initial setup, my helpdesk will resemble that of the maytag repairman.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

What I need to tag on my music: Genre and Year.

I've got every thing else nicely tagged, but I always get pissed off when going through and trying to determine genre. Years I can do though, it will just take time.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I know right what you mean. I have comps from you, actually, that I have retagged exactly like what what you're talking about.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

BUT in iTunes, if you have a comp, like, say, Kompakt Total 4, you just tag it as a comp, and it's automatically refiled into your compilations folder under the album title instead of by artrist.

― kenan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

How does it display on your ipod? I know you use playlists, but if you are just going through to the artist.

That's the one thing I hate about my zen micro, I want to be able to go through album artist instead of just artists.

― Jeff, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I finished taking the MPRE. Now (assuming I pass) all I have to do is graduate and take and pass the bar and then I can be an attorney.

― Jenny, Saturday, 10 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

What? No running the gauntlet? No "unblinking eye"?

― dan m, Saturday, 10 March 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Prince doing Just My Imagination: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qqx0f9

― Jordan, Saturday, 10 March 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Good job Jenny!!!

I've been hanging around the Damen/Milwaukee/North clusterfuck, and I can tell you that the hipsters are officially out of hibernation.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I allllmost went to Filter after my test but then decided I couldn't cope with the hipsters so I went home and ate ice cream instead.

― Jenny, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: Thanks, Nick!

― Jenny, Saturday, 10 March 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I was at Filter drinking a frozen mocha thing, reading and people-watching. We could have hung out.

― n/a, Saturday, 10 March 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

:'-(

― Jenny, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

(=T.T=)

― Jenny, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I was there for a few hours today too! I walked to my gym from the Western stop because the trains were backed up and waiting ~25 minutes to go one stop down the line. Afterwards I went to Sultan's which was packed as hell and then rode the Milwaukee bus back home.

― dan m, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

And if your computer truly makes files disappear, you prolly need a new computer.

I've been thinking this for a while: that argument doesn't make much sense, unless you're coming from the standpoint of iTunes' infallibility.

What I think happened is that because these files were in .wma format, iTunes took it upon itself to make convert them to AAC (as is its wont), and during the conversion something went awry and then they went away.

And then tonight my iPod froze. Would do absolutely nothing until the battery wore down. It seems OK now. Prolly because I don't have a Mac.

― Jesse, Sunday, 11 March 2007 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe a trip to the Genius Bar is in order??

― dan m, Sunday, 11 March 2007 07:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The correct time is 9:34 A.M.

It's taken me a while to establish this.

― Jesse, Sunday, 11 March 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I bought an alarm clock that automatically updates for DST, but I thought maybe that since DST was early this year, it might not know. Then that cast doubt on all other clocks, except for the analog clock on the wall that tells me that it is 8:35.

― Jesse, Sunday, 11 March 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"Some douche is throwing eggs on the train."

-Text message from Courtney this morning as she is headed to the South Side Parade.

― Jesse, Sunday, 11 March 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently there was a guy throwing hard-boiled eggs at the ceiling on the train.

Also
RIP Jesse's iPod
Fall 2004-March 2007

:( Can't afford new player. Maybe I'll take it to the Genius Bar. If that doesn't work, I will start saving my pennies and thinking about next steps.

Maybe this guy.
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/31632697-2-300-overview-1.gif

― Jesse, Sunday, 11 March 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

did you try this?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61705

Take it to the apple store and tell them it sucks.

― Jeff, Sunday, 11 March 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AOMAT0/ref=nosim/?tag=jc0c-20

― Jeff, Sunday, 11 March 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

So I have to go to a birthday party late afternoon, so I think I'll show up instrument-less today and try to do something with what's there. I'm guessing if we're tracking and not just playing a song together live I could use whatever's there.

― Eazy, Sunday, 11 March 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to bring a mini keyboard, kazoo, slide whistle, recorder, clarinet, melodica, etc. -- so there will be stuff for you to play with.

― jaymc, Sunday, 11 March 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I love living close to the lake. Our walk today.

― Jeff, Monday, 12 March 2007 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AOMAT0/ref=nosim/?tag=jc0c-20

Thanks. This did the trick.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny-- I love you. Thank you. Youtube how we know God loves us.

There is a link on this page to a guy doing a comparative tasting of Thunderbird, Boone's Strawberry Hill, Riunite Lambrusco, and Franzia box wine.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Boone's rated highest (least lowest). Then T-bird, Franzia, and a distant 4th least-worst: Riunite Lambrusco.

He made a mistake though--it's Riunite ON ICE that is so nice.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I listened to the results of CHILX All-Star Jam #1 last night and they sounded a lot better than they thought they would. The recording sounds kind of fucked up but in a cool way - the drums and the keyboard are distorted but nice and fuzzy and analog. The take of the actual song is good, but I'm also pretty happy with the two "jams" I recorded. I'll put them online this afternoon/evening so people can hear what we've got going so far.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Can we have a new thread?

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicago: Will There Be Food on the Southside?

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

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