Worst Third Film in a Series

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It always seems in many genres (especially superhero movies) that the third is a turd. There have been many stinkers, but which leaves brown stains along the toilet?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Matrix: Revolutions 13
Other (explain)7
Superman 3 4
Austin Powers in Goldmember 4
X-Men 3 4
Batman Forever 3
Godfather III 3
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome 3
Spiderman 3 2
Alien 3 2
Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause 1
D3: The Mighty Ducks 1
Poltergeist 3 1
Free Willy 3 1
Back to the Future 3 1
Rambo III 1
Exorcist III 0
Friday After Next 0
Sleepaway Camp 3 (original is a classic though) 0
Rush Hour 3 0
Resident Evil: Extinction 0
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift 0
Porky's Revenge 0
Robocop 3 0
Beverly Hills Cop 3 0
Death Wish 3 0
Braddock: Missing in Action 3 0
Once Upon a Time in Mexico 0
Major League 3 0
American Wedding (American Pie 3) 0
The Crow: Salvation 0
The Bad News Bears Go to Japan 0


Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Poltergeist III has one of the sharpest drop-offs from the original on this list, but the second one is even worse.

Now I can't even remember what I voted for. Either the third Matrix or the third Back to the Future.

Eric H., Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

THE WAR IS OVERRRRRRRRRRR!11!1144111!!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

It's definitely not The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift

wilter, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair, I didn't see that movie, I was just grabbing as many as I could.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Austin Powers in Goldmember
Matrix: Revolutions

too hard to choose

milo z, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Matrix: Revolutions

wilter, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Hello, where is Return of the Jedi?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not the third film ^_^

wilter, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:29 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ haha. seriously though I do like Jedi, despite the Ewoks...the opening sequence is nice. T'aint no Empire though (I just said taint)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

This list makes one rue the day Hollywood was born.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not the third film ^_^

It is if you pretend I, II and III were never actually made (like I do).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

haha

wilter, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

so many.... tempted to say matrix but hard to beat godfather

s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link

got a soft spot for godfather cause it features one of my favorite operas.

tehresa, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Jaws 3D

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Tempted to write-in Die Hard 3.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Revolutions was a huge disappointment because I'm one of those guys that actually really liked Reloaded

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf rock hardy DHWAV is a blast

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

are all the movies on this list supposed to suck? I liked Exorcist III quite a bit as a teenage horror buff, but I haven't seen it since. I also don't think Batman Returns was bad as a whole.

I voted for the Matrix 3 mainly because the sequels were so unnecessary. they ruined a potential sci-fi classic, along with any chance for the video game spin-offs, animated shorts, or any potential comics to succeed. it was a catastrophe. i haven't seen a potential classic die so badly because of sequels since Back to the Future.

rockapads, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I added any movie generally considered to be bad, and in some cases, I used a few that were on the fence.

Also, it was Batman Forever (which was hoooooooorrrible) not Batman REturns (which hasn't aged well).

Exorcist III wasn't terrible, but it was extremely boring and had a ridiculous ending.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

the thing is the 2nd movie in at least half of these series sucked, too. was anyone serious let down by Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause!?

some dude, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, I admit that one was a reach. aftera while I was cramming wikipedia's trilogy list in there

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Going through the appropriate IMDB page, I realize that I've generally liked the third movie in a series or I haven't made it that far. Aside from those I've actually liked, Halloween 3 and Superman 3 are two of my favorite bad movies.

I guess I have to go with Spider-Man 3, which was terrible, but I seem to be in a serious minority of people who weren't all that crazy about the other two. But it looks like there are a lot of horrendous options just over the horizon (Ace Ventura, Jr.? Really?).

Deric W. Haircare, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I kind of liked Spiderman 3...it did also have one of the most ridiculous moments in comic book movie history (Tobey McGuire 70's dancing down the street after unleashing black spiderman)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

revenge of the sith really needs to be on here. just sat thru that dvd for curiosity's sake and it's just infuriating. tho i did never see the second one, which i heard was maybe worse

goole, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i always forget there were three austin powers movies

goole, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Omen III : The Final Conflict (although none of the omen films are any good)

velko, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

uh.....majorly disagree w/ that (not the third one, but the first was awesome)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Halloween III not on this list = sham!

David R., Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link

there's yer "Other" option! :)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

star trek III: the search for spock might well be the only good "third" movie

J.D., Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Inspector Clouseau should rank up here (non B.Edwards/non P.Sellers)

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

xp: I'd take Goldfinger over your Trekky shlock, bub.

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Jaws 3D was so boring

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i never saw the Crow 3 (or 2) but i'm just going to assume it's the worst on the list.

Jordan, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked the 3rd matrix film more than the 2nd one. Mainly because of that godawful boring motorbike chase scene in the 2nd one.

Trayce, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link

to be the worst third film i think it has to be the biggest drop-off from the first two. if the second film sucked, who cares if the third one did too? on that basis i vote alien 3 -- it's a long way from the worst film on the list, but it's not very good, and the first two are classic.

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

D3 is really quite amazingly bad, even in comparison to the bad first two.

The first Mighty Ducks movie: they win some local tournament
D2: they win the World Championship of the World for Forever
D3: they get fat and old and win another local tournament

abanana, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

oh great. thanks for fucking spoilers >:O

wilter, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

he just freed up three spots in your Netflix queue

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Tempted to write-in Die Hard 3.

-- Rock Hardy

wtf rock hardy DHWAV is a blast

-- El Tomboto

One of these people is OTM, and it's not Tombot. Die Hard 3 was the first thing I looked for when I opened this thread -- the first 20 minutes were OK, even engaging, but the rest of the movie was one of the most horrific trainwrecks I've ever seen (if you can call something a "trainwreck" when it's closer to "are you people even fucking TRYING to make a movie here?").

Charlie Rose Nylund, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't seen half of these movies, but I had to vote for X-Men 3... because it deserves it.

Nhex, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 05:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought everyone agreed Die Hard 3 was better than 2.

I think Return of the Jedi should've been on the list, it's pretty much the consensus that it's the worst of the original three movies. (And it is the third film in the series, it's just not numbered so.)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

(And it is the third film in the series, it's just not numbered so.)

oops sorry.

wilter, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

BTTF3 nowhere near deserving of such an early pick in this thread. It's overly schmaltzy admittedly, but it's a fun film nonetheless, with a whole load of nice touches.

krakow, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link

*is

krakow, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree with Tombot. Die Hard with a Vengeance is awesome. scores better than the somewhat ridiculous Die Hard 2: Die Harder (which I enjoyed, despite the farfetched plot)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

is alien 3 the david fincher one? that was pretty terrible

n/a, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked Exorcist III quite a bit as a teenage horror buff, but I haven't seen it since.

ISTR this being actually pretty good, although George C. Scott -- who was great great great, I love George C. Scott -- was no Lee J. Cobb. But it's got Dourif!!!

Of the one's I've seen on this list, I vote Godfather III.

Pancakes Hackman, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

no Return of the King? hmm.

went for Batman Returns off the list, would have gone for Matrix Revolutions except that, contrary to Tom's opinion, i found it a huge improvement on reloaded.

i think second movies are generally so shitty that i can't be bothered to watch the third- this is the case for Spiderman and Pirates of the Caribbean- if i'd seen them i'm sure they'd be high on my list.

I haven't seen the first of the Once upon a time.... series, but Mexico sure was a turd.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Return of the King was the best of three LoTR movies.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link

well, no, but even so is the poll relative or standalone? because it's still a shittily written and badly acted pantomime.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Terminator 3 guys

sonderborg, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Voted Goldmember even though I haven't seen it, just because I hate Michael Myers so, so much.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Matrix: Revolutions probably the most disappointing (but still like several scenes) - same goes for ROTS i guess but that has the slight 12A excuse

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i loved the first two POTCs but not the third much at all. are third acts just that bit more predictable generally? do we have a thread for good threquels?

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

the inclusion of a standard 'character arc' over three installments is getting really old and cliched at this stage, I think, as well as the inevitable doubling/tripling of 'bad guys' at every juncture.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Tempted to write-in Die Hard 3.

-- Rock Hardy

wtf rock hardy DHWAV is a blast

-- El Tomboto

One of these people is OTM, and it's not Tombot.

crazy talk, DHWAV is great as a standalone or as a sequel.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Alien Vs. Predator would be the third Predator movie, right?

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

3rd Godzilla movie: Godzilla Vs. King Kong (although the franchise plumbed much stinker depths later)

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Alien Vs. Predator would be the third Predator movie, right?

-- Oilyrags, 30 July 2008 14:57 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

hmm, technically....

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

AvP isn't terrible, just not good.

it seems that comeback/resets tend to work better, but you can only consider those after the character was already done to death i guess. and yeah some of them are still shit.

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

T3

dan m, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

not the worst on this list by a long shot, but i'm giving it to Godfather 3 just because of the precipitous drop in quality between the original and it's third. I'd say Back to the Future 3 deserves mention, too. Again, not horrible, but compared to how much i liked the first, it's pretty abysmal.*

*should note i've never seen any Die Hards, any Matrices or Jaws 3D (another I suspect would be in the running)

will, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Terminator 3 guys

-- sonderborg, Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:42 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

sleep, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i voted matrix 3 though
also shocked and dismayed by DHWAV haters

sleep, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

T3 haters are insane.

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

If you went to more than three of these thirds, you MAY be a chump.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

american wedding and back to the future 3 are pretty good

max, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i did have super low expectations tho (xpost)

only one of these i saw in the cinema was BTTF3 - enjoyed it at the time but worst of the 3 for sure

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

You're just pissed off that Rules of the Game 3: 3Rules, 3Game was so terrible, Morbs.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.mymovies.it/filmclub/2006/07/235/locandina.jpg

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

but redeemed with 4: Citizenz on Patrol, no?!

(j/k)

will, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

RoboCop 3, for the size of the drop off in quality.
Robo 1 = classic
Robo 2 = mindless, but enjoyable
Robo 3 = really, staggeringly bad

DavidM, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Rush Hour 3 is really terrible.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

wasnt there a third Smokey & the Bandit where Jackie Gleason was the lead?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, that or Jaws 3D (saw this at the NFT!) would be my choice

stevie, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

no one disliked Britannia Hospital, I guess.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Gordon Bombay: I was like you, Charlie. When I played hockey, I was a total hot shot... tried to take control of every game. I wound up quitting. So I tried the law. Same thing. I ruled the courtroom, but inside I was a mess. Started drinking. Man, I was going down. But then this great thing happened, maybe the best thing ever: I got arrested and sentenced to community service. And there you were: Charlie and the Ducks. And as hard as I fought it, there you were. You gave me a life, Charlie, and I want to say thank you. I told Orien about all this when I talked to him about taking over. I told him that you were the heart of the team and that you would learn something from each other. I told him that you were the real Minnesota Miracle Man.
Charlie Conway: (astonished) You did?
Gordon Bombay: (nods) So be that man, Charlie. Be that man.

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Coach Orion: (picks hockey puck up off the ice and addresses the Ducks) What's the one thing all great teams have in common?

Lester Averman: Great coaching.

Coach Orion: (unamused) Don't try to suck up to me, Averman.

Coach Orion: Defense. See, unlike scoring, defense never quits. But to play great defense you need one thing above all else.

Lester Averman: (sarcastically, to Goldberg) Bet it starts with a W.

Coach Orion: Confidence. Listen, if you learn nothin' else when you're here, you learn this, all right? This is not just about hockey. It's easy to be confident when you have control of the puck. It's very, very difficult to keep that confidence when you gotta take whatever strange bounces life throws your way. Don't be careless, but don't be too careful either. You cannot be afraid to lose! That's how you gain the confidence to attack the game when the puck isn't yours. That's how you attack life... even when you think you don't have any control. And that's how you play real defense.

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

"no one disliked Britannia Hospital, I guess."

Why would they?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Ken Wu: Yo, Russ, you gotta teach me how to talk some trash.
Russ: It can't be taught, Kenny-man. I mean, it's gotta be the first thing that comes to your mind. You just gotta go for it. Try it.
Ken Wu: Hey Ref! You - ...
Russ: (covers Ken's mouth) Ah! Shh. Pick another target.
Ken Wu: (stuttering) Hey, number forty-four, you - you - you - you- you play - you don't play real good.
Bears Player: Yeah, right.
Russ: Shorter, man. Get to the point.
Ken Wu: Hey, number nine! Bite me!
(is knocked over by number nine player)
Russ: (laughs) Now we're gettin' somewhere.

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

D3 MIGHTY DUCKS WINS

and I liked Brittania Hospital!

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

goldmember is the best of the austin powers

rent, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I have never seen Karate Kid 3, but it was one of the first movies to be released only in widescreen on VHS. The back of the videocassette for KK3 explains how the format shows respect for the film and its audience by preserving its unique scope and directorial vision.

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

can't believe no one else is repping for alien 3 here, such a huge comedown after alien and aliens

n/a, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I was just goofing on the Lindsay Anderson movies being a 'series' -- but Brit Hospital is not nearly as good as If or OLM!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

That's true, but it's still good stuff.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, you big GOOFER!

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Pirates of the Caribbean 3 gets my vote!

I made myself watch Rush Hour 3 the other day, it's the most S&M thing I've ever done in my life, well apart from making myself watch Anger Management. What if there was a third Anger Management film?

jel --, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

alien 3 has its merits.

latebloomer, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Alien 3 is actually quite good. Nice looking and it's reasonably well-paced and acted. The Jesus ending is kind of tiresome, I guess. And compared to film #4 it's practically a work of genius.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

POTC3 is really really bad too.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

props to Alien3 for trying to do something a bit different tho. "no guns", strong female lead character now BALD. uh, that may be it.

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

CROCODILE DUNDEE 3 people

i mean i enjoyed the first one tho many didn't

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

He never even went to Scotland!

jel --, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

which will happen first? Ghostbusters 3 (or a redo) or Gremlins 3 (they are currently featurng in an ad here in the UK, still looking pretty good and suggests they're on for a comeback)

also heeeeeeeeeey wait THIS isn't the original cover art!
http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/7/34577-large.jpg

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

ground-breaking use of Photoshop motion blur there

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i never saw the Crow 3 (or 2) but i'm just going to assume it's the worst on the list.

This was exactly my conclusion on this one

nabisco, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

also, this:

goldmember is the best of the austin powers

-- rent, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:53 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

stevie, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember renting critters 3!

latebloomer, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

that's when dicaprio was up-and-coming tiger beat heart throb on growing pains

latebloomer, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

From Ebert's 'D3' review:

``You've never heard of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks?'' asks Charlie, the team's top scorer. ``They named a pro team after us!'' He uses this as a pick-up line with a cute brunet. Maybe it would have worked even better if he'd added, ``And the same company that owns the team produced all three Mighty Duck movies, in a transparent exercise of cross-promotion!''

Abbott, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

With the 3-D revival in effect we need a re-release of D3. D3-3D, dude!

latebloomer, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

all you that voted Terminator 3 are excommunicated from this poll

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Abbott is generating overwhelming evidence for D3

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

terminator 3 was shit!

DG, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Terminator 3 was solid. at least it had the balls to end the world, unlike the copout that was Terminator 2 (not that I didn't enjoy it)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

it was shit and terminator 4 will be EVEN SHITTERER

DG, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

It was complete crap. Alien Vs. Predator was better.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i disagree. Terminator might be the tightest trilogy going all in all.

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

describing anything with such a nonsensical plot as the Terminator series as "tight" is.... a stretch

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i said 'tightest'. this is relative.

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Terminator 4 will rule. Non-tightly.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

ok ok LOTR is better

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i like Alien3.

I liked Exorcist III too, when it came out. We paid to see PUmp up the Volume and snuck into Exorcist III afterward, and it was the more entertaining of the two.

akm, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

DHWAV is even better than the first one.

milo z, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Alien vs. Predator=for people who buy New Found Glory cds

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

No idea who that is, but T3 was boring. Arnold hasn't made a good movie since Commando.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Commando fucking blew. even when I was trying to enjoy it for its ridiculousness

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm joking about Commando (Arnold was good in Terminator and basically nothing else), but T3 still sucked.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:House3DVDcover.jpg

rollerbeef, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh WTF!

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/451/138/36/o_house_3.jpg

rollerbeef, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, what the fuck is wrong with you people who don't like Commando. It's got DAN FUCKING HEDAYA as a Latin American heavy fer crissakes. It's got little hairy-armed Alyssa Milano, it's got "Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied," and it's got Arnie shoving a pipe through a guy.

Pancakes Hackman, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

but he's called John Matrix. the best bit is when he breaks dude's neck and then gets off the plane as it takes off.

blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

let off some steam bennett

DG, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Arnie's best line is in Red Heat: "He lives here."

Doesn't really work out of context.

ledge, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Neverending Story III...dammit, shouldn't have left that one off...

now, who's going to start the spinoff thread about worst sequels?

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

but he's called John Matrix. the best bit is when he breaks dude's neck and then gets off the plane as it takes off.

"My friend is dead tired."

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

voted other because you didn't include the third Highlander movie. i once paid to rent that on VHS and it was so shitty that it got turned off after 15 minutes and was returned unwatched (so, yeah, i'm assuming that it didn't get any better)

Kim, Thursday, 31 July 2008 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

the one-liners in Commando are transcendent. that movie is amazing in every way.

latebloomer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Die Hard With A Vengeance is the best in the whole series!! wtf.

Most of these benefit from being the 3rd film in a series of ridiculous, low-expectations-generating movies. If the 3rd Matrix movie was anywhere as good as the promise of the 1st it would've been incredible instead of poop drippings.

nickalicious, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Best part of Commando: When John Matrix and the girl need armaments for their suicide mission, so they break into a sporting goods store, which just happens to stock an arsenal of grenades, automatic rifles & rocket launchers.

Also, RE: "Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied." - "What happened to Sully?" "I had to let him go."

Fact: The script for the original Die Hard was originally intended as a Commando sequel.

Pillbox, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link

is that true or is it an urban legend? reason I ask is that Die Hard's plot came from a book titled Nothing Lasts Forever.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

BJO, I'm pretty sure it's true. The book was probably adapted as a Commando sequel at first. I will try to find information to verify this.

Pillbox, Thursday, 31 July 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

was just curious. I mean, it was a loose adaptation after all (character's names were changed and a lot of other stuff too, from what I heard...)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 31 July 2008 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

rong

The movie is based on a 1979 novel by Roderick Thorp titled Nothing Lasts Forever, itself a sequel to the book The Detective, which was previously made into a 1968 movie starring Frank Sinatra.

(I knew this already but just c/p'd)

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 31 July 2008 04:05 (fifteen years ago) link

didn't I just say the movie was based on that book?

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 31 July 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link

From IMDB

John McTiernan was originally going to make Commando 2, but Arnold Schwarzenegger turned the role offer down. Commando 2 was transformed into Die Hard (1988) and Schwarzenegger was the first actor offered the title role, but he again declined. Eventually Bruce Willis would get the part after Sylvester Stallone, Burt Reynolds, and Richard Gere were all offered the role.

Pillbox, Thursday, 31 July 2008 04:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I found that earlier...the only thing that bothers me about it is I did a yahoo search containing the words "Commando" and "Die Hard" and only found that IMDB article and some other fringe fansite's info.

plus no mention of the novel...hmm. the MYSTERY REMAINS!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 31 July 2008 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

T3 for me. I'm a hater.

krakow, Thursday, 31 July 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, it was a loose adaptation after all (character's names were changed and a lot of other stuff too, from what I heard...)

I've actually read Nothing Lasts Forever, and very little about it was changed, with the major exceptions of:

-- The milieu is very 70s rather than very 80s
-- Joe Leland (the character's name in Thorp's novels) is going from NY to LA to visit his daughter, rather than his wife, from whom he is long divorced
-- IIRC the TV reporter subplot doesn't exist
-- The overall goal of the terrorists/thieves is slightly different, much less for personal gain than for some kind of "down with the system" anticapitalist deal
-- Someone significant who doesn't die in the movie dies in the book

Other than that, nearly every single significant action beat and plot point that appeared in the movie is in the book, from "fists with your toes" to the plastique down the elevator shaft.

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 31 July 2008 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll go with Matrix, although I hated the second one just as much. This should just have been one film, perhaps a sequel a lot later on than it was.

Tr3n released in 3001 will be the awes!

Ste, Thursday, 31 July 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Richard Gere as John McLean!!! The wincing!

Also, people who think T3 was worse than AVP are heavily broken.

David R., Thursday, 31 July 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Die Hard With A Vengeance is the best in the whole series!! wtf.

-- nickalicious, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:38 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Do you also eat dinner first thing in the morning and put your shoes on your head and your hat on your feet?

antexit, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, it is pretty good though.

Ste, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

some contenders I have to dismiss...

exorcist iii: exorcist ii is one of the worst sequels ever, perhaps one of the worst movies ever.

godfather iii: I really like this movie. granted it's not up to the standard of the first two but that bar is pretty effin high.

alien3: not a great movie but fincher made some interesting choices and was majorly hassled by the studio as a reward, so he gets a pass.

return of the jedi: princess leia in a bikini forgives a host of sins.

jaws 3-D: it's in 3-D you fules! at least they tried. I actually saw this in the theaters.

I've managed to miss the majority of the remaining excrement on the list, so I have to reserve my reward for the one that broek hart: mad max beyond thunderdome.

14 year old me exited the theater that sunny summer day much further down the path of being the bitter and broken specimen you see before you now. in retrospect it's not a bad movie, but it dismisses the harsh vibes of the first two films for very little reward. judged by villain alone the progression from the toecutter -> lord humungus -> tina turner in chainmail is a pretty sharp dropoff.

Edward III, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Surprised at the lack of Superman 3 hate on here...

I watched Alien3 again recently and while it's definitely my least favorite of the series it's still got a few genuinely memorable moments. There's just too much lingering on the wrong things and not enough development of the potentially interesting parts. Whatever else was going wrong in the production of this thing, Sigourney Weaver is the driving engine of the series and she doesn't let down here.

Back to the Future 3 is just dopey - if you accept the premise it's fine I guess, but after the sweet high-concept comedy of #1 and all the timeline-altering hijinks of #2 it just has so much less going on. Whose idea was it that the entire thing would be in the Wild West? I admit that it beats some Quantum Leap thing where they do a cowboy part, a pirate part, etc...but it's still corny.

Die Hard With A Vengeance is a blast. It's too damn long and episodic - they clearly hadn't worked out how to end the thing - but it's got too many classic Die Hard lines to be discounted. OK, it was a weird move for the series to become a chase all around town instead of a confined-space thing, but there are other ways in which it fits into the lineage - mainly the great fake-out by the bad guy. And possibly my favorite line ever by John McClane, over a truck CB: Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, fuck-head!

No, this is Matrix: Revolutions's poll to lose. A trudging CG fest with all the detail, complexity, and drama of a video game FMV from 1998, it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen, let alone worst third movie in a series.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Die Hard With A Vengeance is the best in the whole series!! wtf.

-- nickalicious

Do you also eat dinner first thing in the morning and put your shoes on your head and your hat on your feet?

-- antexit

YA SRSLY. I mean, I dig on bad/campy movies as much as anyone, and enjoy movies that freely switch between bad-ass and stupid (Delta Force comes to mind). But DHWAV didn't work for me on that basis either -- I just sat there astonished at what a complete turd it became, after a sort-of promising 20 minutes.

Haven't seen Die Hard II, though, so I'm not evaluating it within the series, just as a shitty movie in its own right.

xpost the one-liners did nothing for me, and I wasn't having enough fun to want to believe in the fake-out

Charlie Rose Nylund, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Superman III has one plus: Chris Reeves never looked hotter than in the scene where he flicks peanuts at booze bottles.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Thursday, 31 July 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

this belongs to matrix revolutions

latebloomer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

wachowskis deserve every inch of hate that can possibly be bestowed on to them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

what was the third Aladdin called...

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 1 August 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Jurassic Park 3 shoulda been here too

abanana, Friday, 1 August 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Jurassic Park 3 was silly but at least it wasn't the Lost World. And it's like half an hour shorter, too.

latebloomer, Friday, 1 August 2008 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Friday, 1 August 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

ahh, The Lost World. I wish it was a third film just so it could be on this list.

The movie famous for a young girl gymnast ACTUALLY SOMERSALTING AND KICKING OVER A DINOSAUR THAT WEIGHS SEVERAL TONS

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 2 August 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

The Schumacher Batmans I am now considering as their own separate thing, so now since 1989 there have been 3 sets of 2 Batman movies. Thus, Batman Forever is not the 3rd film of this series, but is rather the 1st in its own series. (I realize it was billed as the third and fourth upon their release, but Burton's and Shumacher's visions were so far apart from each other that in retrospect it doesn't make sense to group them together.)

billstevejim, Saturday, 2 August 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link

disqualified

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 2 August 2008 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

OCEAN'S THIRTEEN

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 2 August 2008 05:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Matrix wins!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 2 August 2008 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link

this really should've been won by a series where the 2nd was good enough that the 3rd could be considered a letdown.

some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2008 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

take it to appeals!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 2 August 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

lest we forget the other 'number 3s in 3-D' from the micro-genre:

Amityville 3-D:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM0SWbO_VxE
"...as the horror reaches out beyond the edge of the screen"

and also:

Frday the 3th part 3-D! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8WcC4pS_tU
"and now you can't even keep him on the screen"

Boy had i forgotten about the early 80s 3-D revival. What brought that on i wonder?

piscesx, Saturday, 2 August 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Yeah, yknow, at the time my feeling was that Matrix Reloaded was a letdown from the first but KINDA okay, so then Revolutions was just so unspeakably bad and stupid that it really stood out. But I'm watching Reloaded on TV right now and it's just as uninvolving and inept as Revolutions, just it's uninvolving dialogue scenes rather than uninvolving CG. I think it really benefited from the sense that all this portentous crap was going somewhere; knowing that it's not, it's REALLY tedious to sit through all the portents. So I think if I could I would go back and change my vote from Revolutions to Superman 3 or BTTF3.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 2 January 2010 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Noted.

System (s1ocki), Saturday, 2 January 2010 08:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't hate jackson's LOTR trilogy as much as i used to. all wounds really do heal with time.

Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 January 2010 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link

BTTF 3 is good.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Saturday, 2 January 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

the naked gun 33 1/3 was pretty bad.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 2 January 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

have there been any GREAT 3rd films in a series? has there been a poll for best?

worst drop off has to be Jedi. the new Star Trek wipes the *floor* with Jedi and i said that as massive fan of the first 3 Star Wars films.

piscesx, Sunday, 17 January 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"have there been any GREAT 3rd films in a series?"

bourne ultimatums.

free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Sunday, 17 January 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i must watch those.

piscesx, Sunday, 17 January 2010 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

its totally batman forever.

oh and yea bourne ultimatum was soooooooo awesome

Ballistic, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

I mean, the second Matrix was shitty as well, no?

Apart from the Godfather, which of these films had a sequel as good/better than the first?

Slacker Bilk (S-), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll rep for thunderdome. critics loved it, but after the bleak awesomeness of Road Warrior, Tina Turner and some midget who is one half of "master blaster"? I didn't even finish teh movie, and I hear the second half is potentially worse!

Ballistic, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link

batman forever>>>> robocop 3.

I guess you could argue that robocop 3 isn't terrible because it's such a hypnotic trainwreck.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i've never been tempted to watch it

banaka, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

no return of the king = bjo FUCKIN' UP

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Die Hard with a Vengeance is a pretty great 3rd movie

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:52 (fourteen years ago) link

yea i mean Samuel L. Jackson!!!11!!

Ballistic, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

working on the list for a sequel to this thread, which in the spirit of things will probably manage to be both unwanted and somehow disappointing anyway. question: what's the maximum number of poll options? i remember it being 50, is that right?

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

"I penetrated your dad's Fortress of Solitude, motherfucker!" would've been the highlight of Superman III.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link

Watched Superman III with my sibs over the holidays. Love that POS so much.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

perverse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:42 (six years ago) link

^yes i would totally be down to watch Supes 3 right now. it's probably the Superman movie i've seen the most times. lot of crazy shit to love in that film.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:49 (six years ago) link

shoutout to whoever watched free willy 3

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:10 (six years ago) link

free willy 2 was the first movie where i realized i was watching a bad movie

adam the (abanana), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:57 (six years ago) link

Seriously, it's like...maybe stop getting captured already, Willy.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:07 (six years ago) link

I freed my willy

Hi diddley dee, hen fapper's life for me (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:16 (six years ago) link

I'll never forget sitting in the theatre watching Made in America (the Ted Danson/Whoopi Goldberg thing, yeah) and the trailer for the original FW showing before the film. As soon as the title flashed on the screen at the end of the trailer, the whole crowd burst out laughing.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link

free willy - a thirst 4 vengeance, rated R

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link


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