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pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

guys i have lived in MN for twenty of my twenty-nine years and i think i've been to duluth like four times, the last being at least fifteen years ago

it's right there! how is that possible???

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

because you get there and realize you are in Duluth, so then you turn around and go back home

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Explains why Dylan left.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Doesn't explain why Low are still there.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 Duluth

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

car can't get up the hill

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

aw guys, it can't be THAT bad!

i've lived in BOZEMAN, MONTANA.

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

(I don't really have anything against Duluth and enjoyed the two times I visited as a kid but really don't have any desire to go back)

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

srsly it's a great town, just enough city-type aspects but some nice small-townyness too

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

gbx do you need suggestions? I have been going there like monthly for the past year while waiting for my gf to move here.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

it's been like 20 years, all i remember is burgers and shakes at grandma's sorry

LA river flood (lukas), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

oh for real?

fuck yeah, gimme something to do for a weekend.

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Fitger's for local beer
Uncle Loui's Cafe for breakfast
Whole Foods Co-op for food (note: not an actual Whole Foods, but an actual co-op)
The Scenic Cafe for fancy dinners
Zeitgeist for cocktails

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I kind of reflexively and unfairly dislike small-town feel anything

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

go out to the end of Canal Park for sweet sandy beaches, water on 2 sides, straddle the border of MN/WI

xp maybe you should go read another thread?

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

that sounds like a good day

xxp

LA river flood (lukas), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

drive up MN61 for north shore goodness, also there is an awesome bike path for miles and miles

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

duluth is kinda magickal

it's a weird place

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

drive over the BONG BRIDGE to Superior, WI and giggle

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah mostly in it for the north shore. like, i basically have never been there??!?!?! we have a mini-maine 3 hours from the city and i'm all "oh i'm bored there's nothing fun to do outside yah yah yah"

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

why is MN the best place ever for bike riding. it really is.

LA river flood (lukas), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

it feels kind of ancient, the north shore makes you feel small

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

check out some of the city's awesome hiking/biking trails, they're f'n everywhere

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i need to do more "real" road biking in mn

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the path up the shore basically follows the path of 61

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

oh shit for real?

*googles*

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's a rails-to-trails thing, it goes a looong way. Also the path of the Grandma's marathon iirc.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

is fitzgers the super old restaurant, like 100 yrs old, that has the mural/border around the tops of the walls that has the cool fox hunting painting all around?

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that might be the Pickwick, but I am not sure. Fitger's is a hotel/brewery/restaurant/store complex.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

We went on a family vacation to Duluth and all we did was sit in our hotel watching Reagan getting shot, etc.

School friend had cabin by Two Harbors, totally gorgeous.

stoic newington (suzy), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

if there was better economic opportunity in Duluth I would srsly consider moving there

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

great place to watch a president get shot IMO

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

they have their own branch of Pizza Luce too

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmm

i thought about doing a rotation up there, just to check it out.

i'm thinking about residency already, and while part of me wants to peace out from MN again and move to either NM or the PacNW, another part is like "fuck it, stay here," and is considering duluth as a possible target

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Fitgers is in fact totally awesome! Never would have remembered the name, but its in kind of a biggish complex on the main drag, right? kinda reminded me of a factory tall ceilings etc maybe?

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

there are a surprising number of hospitals for a town of 80k

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

welcome to minnesota

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man so many bizarro awesome things in the vicinity too. Devils cauldron! Magnetic Rock! Eagle Mountain!

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

it (Fitger's) was originally a brewery, now houses a brewpub + other stuff

full disclosure: my gf works there, for another month or so at least

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

oh duh, devils kettle, not cauldron

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

get smoked fishes here

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I was thinking of the Pickwick, not Fitzgers...the Pickwick is the super old restaurant...pretty midwest "supper club" food but still it's reaaally cool inside...here's a detail of the stuff around the ceiling I was talking about:

http://countrymouse.blogharbor.com/_photos/Duluth%20Horns%20Pickwick%20Pub.jpg

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_C._R._Magney_State_Park#The_Devil.27s_Kettle

more info about devils kettle. hooray for bizarre outdoorsy crap!

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

magnetic rock:

The trail goes through a burn area over exposed bedrock, then to deep woods and a strange looking monolithic rock with magnetic properties. Under normal circumstances, a glacial erratic (a boulder dropped from a glacial ice sheet) wouldn’t get much attention in Minnesota. They are, after all, just big rocks that you can find almost everywhere, including in people’s front yards. But this one is special, not just for its magnetic properties, but also for its appearance. The rock’s dimensions are 10 by 20 by 30 feet and it is shaped like a big monument that seems to have dropped out of the sky. Multi-colored lichens cover the rock’s surface giving it various shades of yellow and orange. Its magnetism comes from the mineral magnetite, common to the underlying bedrock of the Gunflint Iron Formation. Special attractions: The rock (bring a compass to test out its magnetic properties) and wildlife.

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I was going to go to a minor-league baseball game last time I was there (Duluth Huskies, iirc?) but it was rained out. 'Sposed to be a really fun, cheap, drunk (if you want) time.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Also the 2-3 universities in the area lead to a lot of good house shows/small-venue music.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^see that's what i assumed? like, city of 85k that is a college town has to be sorta fun, right? though tbh what is there other than UMD?

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

concordia?

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

St. Scholastica, I think? and UW-Superior (OK, not actually in Duluth, but cmon)

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Soup-town is like Duluth's little brother, that also happens to sell liquor later

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

every show i've played in duluth w/a band has been really strange and interesting

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

if you like giganitic mechanical things there are regularly 1000-ft lake freighters to gawk at + a museum made out of a retired ship

xp oh man I wonder if you have played with my gf's band or any of her friends... I've seen some really strange and interesting stuff there too

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

that reminds me: Homegrown Music Festival in May is a rockin' good time

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry i have become distracted by "weird shit in northern MN that has nothing to do w/duluth itself" ill stop now

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

neato!

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Who is the H.P. Lovecraft of Duluth?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

that guy

goole, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i've always been curious about the band Father Hennepin, which i think was Starfire's band (the Starfire from the Low song)

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

idk re lovecraft, but the good old Glensheen Mansion is good for some creepy creepy times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glensheen_Historic_Estate

it is also crazy huge, and pretty well preserved. The furniture (attn museum curator dorks) is almost entirely the original stuff from 1908, not repros.

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^the whole street that place is on is amazing, big big houses overlooking the lake

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Duluth. I love being able to walk 4 blocks up a steep, steep grade and feel like I've gotten a good workout. I love the eccentric used bookstore. I love feeling like I'm in 1870s San Francisco. I love the Electric Foetus. I love that rocky, rocky beach just north of the Glensheen Mansion. I could spend hours there. Love it when the water turns rusty from taconite, and when the ice piles up on the shore. Ahhhhahahahhhahhahahh.

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Used to go there every summer to visit grandparents and uncles ... iirc Grandma on one occasion had to chase a bear out of her garden (inside the city limits)

Brad C., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

was wondering why you weren't on this thread yet tbh eazy

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Been busy, but now I'm daydreaming.

When I was in fifth grade, I wrote an 11-page heist drama that ended with a car chase, and the "bad guys" driving toward the Lift Bridge while it was raised, and, Smokey-and-the-Bandit-style, splashing into Lake Superior.

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

stupid broken image

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9524/lastplaceonearth.jpg

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, yes, that's my impression of downtown Duluth, on that stretch near the casino.

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah the crazy multibuilding bookstore is kinda unhinged and insane

i really need to get back up there soon

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

~road trip~

pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Was just up there this past weekend, Wisconsin Point on the Superior side is a great beach but the lake is SO. FUCKING. COLD. I could take about 2 min before I had to get out and warm up + my lips looked a little blue.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Monday, 30 August 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i saw zak sally at the downtown minneapolis government center today

i got what t.rex turok the mic right (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 August 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Something very Lovecraftian about the name Duluth. Does the city consist of windowless black monoliths?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 30 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

not really but there are some imposing industrial structures

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Skyline-Duluth-20060330.jpg

Danny Dyer (dan m), Monday, 30 August 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah yes, looks like the perfect environment for Elder Gods.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 30 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

where does the name come from? there's a Duluth, GA, too, which i have to think was there first.

goole, Monday, 30 August 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

My contact lenses are from Duluth, Georgia! (made in Asia, but Ciba-Vision is headquartered in Duluth)

Always thought my lenses were from Low-ville, but they ain't, just looked it up because of this thread :-(

StanM, Monday, 30 August 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The city is named for Daniel Greysolon, Sieur du Lhut, the first known European explorer of the area.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Monday, 30 August 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Enger tower is up at the very top of the hill, looks really creepy, and is much taller than it looks in this picture. I can't go to duluth without going up it at least once: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_bq7WvZXl3wE/SPwHAZ-rHSI/AAAAAAAABNA/PAwV7fZF7s4/s512/IMG_2612.jpg

Also, I think the best burgers in the whole area are at the Anchor Bar in Superior.

Dan I., Monday, 30 August 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Insanely great view out of that thing

Dan I., Monday, 30 August 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

xp YES, I had one on Saturday night! Their menu is kind of awesome in its descriptions of the food, i.e. the ham sandwich: "A good choice if you like ham."

Danny Dyer (dan m), Monday, 30 August 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

good relevant site imo

http://www.perfectduluthday.com/

Danny Dyer (dan m), Monday, 30 August 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Goin' 2 Duluth 2morrow!

dan m, Thursday, 15 September 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

envious actually
this is perfect go to duluth weather atm

Scream, Fistula, Scream! (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 September 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

bigtime

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Thursday, 15 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

duluth is amazing

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 October 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

Who is the H.P. Lovecraft of Duluth?

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:15 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

this thread title is so lovecraftian, I love it

2001: a based godyssey (dayo), Friday, 14 October 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

i fucking love it here

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Saturday, 21 January 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

are you there? it seems like it'd be icy and dismal right now!

I want to go back there some day. I have only been once.

mh, Saturday, 21 January 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link

it's icy and dismal in such a great way tho

long duk dan (dan m), Saturday, 21 January 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

^^^for real. i ~thought~ it might be terrible to be here in the winter, but it's much better than the icy and dismal you get down in the cities. at least here there's the lake and the hill and the trees and the giant industrial structures to add some flavor.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

icy and dismal giant industrial structures sound great, actually

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

dude I am totally planning a Day of Shooting here. Found a spot thats perfect---giant structures (and ships!) that's slightly overgrown, totally empty. Was gonna go today but it's overcast and would like to catch it in strong directional light.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

sounds great! don't underestimate overcast days - if the light is still bright, it's like a giant softbox and makes everything kind of 'glow'

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

Duluth is haunted

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

sounds great! don't underestimate overcast days - if the light is still bright, it's like a giant softbox and makes everything kind of 'glow'

hmmm

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Saturday, 21 January 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

Two things I remember about Duluth:

1. A terrible Chinese restaurant that was run by non-Chinese people who had, like, backpacked in China in the 60s or something.

2. They told me if I fell into Lake Superior I'd be dead in five minutes.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

they were right

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

I just remember there being some cool old industrial buildings, a day when I arrived there being a little over 80 degrees and the locals complaining about it being "so hot", and some murder mansion I toured!

mh, Saturday, 21 January 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

guys i am bored

i really like it here but i don't like not having friends and living out of a bag in a hotel. it is 730 and i just want to shoot the shit with bros somewhere but it's looking like another night of pizza + skyrim

can't go to fitgers because i have been grabbing a beer there after work like every other day and its making me feel self-conscious and everywhere else looks hell of local

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

Pizza Luce?

Burritos are one of the things I'm nostalgic about!!! (Eazy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

How long has that pizza luce been there? btw they are tasty

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

apparently there is a bluegrass jam somewhere downtown (stfu i like bluegrass) that could be dece

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

what this town needs is a burgeoning black metal scene

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

I kind of want to go to Duluth sometime

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

I like it

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

Burgeoning taconite scene

Burritos are one of the things I'm nostalgic about!!! (Eazy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

burgeoning red metal amirite

thirsty pagan in superior has shows and ok beer
my gf liked the roundup on 4th street E

long duk dan (dan m), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link

not a terrible idea tbh.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

how much longer are you up there mang, trying to figure out a weekend to cruise up there with k. also are you blindingly busy so it wouldnt really matter anyway?

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

I'm back now!

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

oh ha

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

lets get drinks soon then

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm down

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLZBS3HCs-Y

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Monday, 27 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

PHC did a show up there last weekend

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Monday, 27 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

kinda don't know what to think of this story

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/02/27/grand-marais-older-men-pursuing-teen-girls/

the courthouse shooting that prodded (conservative) lawmakers into changing gun laws in courthouses stemmed from a sex crime case with its own p bizarre story

goole, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

"Back in them days, it was acceptable," said Perry Wilson, who is quick to defend his friend Schlienz. "That's the way it was — 16-, 17-year-old girls; that was their boyfriends back then was a 25-year-old guy."

In Grand Marais, most people know Wilson by his nickname, "Proof," short for "Hundred Proof."
"In this town all you need to pick up a 16-year-old high school girl is a nice-looking truck or a nice car."
- Perry Wilson

Wilson, now 53, arrives at a local cafe unshaven, in sweatpants and a jacket. Over coffee, he said that in his 20s he could have been jailed for his own exploits with teenage girls, during what he calls his "heyday." But he stops short of admitting to criminal sexual conduct.

Wilson also is adamant that he and other adult men did not pursue the girls. He said the girls pursued them.

"That's the way it's always been since man was born. The younger girls chase the older guys. Everybody thinks it's the older guys chasing younger girls, [but] that's wrong," he said. "It ain't that way. In this town, all you need to pick up a 16-year-old high school girl is a nice-looking truck or a nice car."

goole, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, I was about to paste the exact same section.

That guy is a treat

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

I was in Duluth on Thursday. Found the Graffiti Graveyard.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, that is newsworthy? I thought that was somewhat common in every small Midwestern town ever. Meaning the 25 year old dude that can't get over his glory days and still dates the high school girls mostly because thats his peer group. I mean, definitely creepy and awful, but not particularly earth-shattering is it?

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

Okay wait, I see now that this particular case was a dude even older than that and not quite the scenario referenced at the start of the article.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

No one said it was earth shattering

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

it's newsworthy because the courthouse shooting by the man convicted was a huge deal

goole, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I should have withheld comment until I read the whole article. My first post was just after reading the headline and intro paragraph, which I think kinda sells the whole story a little short.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, this:

In Grand Marais, pattern emerges of older men pursuing teen girls

GRAND MARAIS, Minn. — Beth Kennedy first heard the stories 34 years ago.

Not long after she moved to Grand Marais with her husband and 11-year-old daughter, people in the community told her that older men were pursuing and having sex with high school girls.

"We started hearing about these 20-, 25-, 30-year-old men who were constantly at football games, around the teenage girls, and who somehow believed that it was a great thing to be sleeping with virgins," she said. "And I was aghast."

... doesn't really clue you in to the real story here.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

dazed-and-confused.jpg

catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 27 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

i think this is pretty hard to judge tbh

the article goes up to the line in saying that 25+ dudes going after strings of -18 girls was a uniquely bad problem in grand marais. sure it happens all over but it turned into some kind of uh 'lifestyle' up there. that's sort of what the whole case implies, but who knows? as characterized by this journalist, there is an "entrenched minority" in the town that feels that schleinz was railroaded for something nbd. the city's legal/social organs thought it was something close a public health menace.

crazy stuff either way tho

goole, Monday, 27 February 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

The population of Grand Marais is 1,351 according to ye olde wikipedia. I'd guess the school district is a bit bigger, but still... that is not a lot of teenage girls in total

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 27 February 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

great bad weather pics

minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/02/29/photos-duluth-blizzard/

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

spending one year anniversary in THE AIR CONDITIONED CITY yall

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

boss

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

any decent websites about shows etc that might be going on that you can recommend?

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

honestly have no clue, even when I was up there I found it difficult to get a feel for what was happening where. when I went out, I typically went to fitgers.

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah :/

goole, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

i've heard this place is good but i've never been

http://www.sceniccafe.com/

goole, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

congrats btw!

goole, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

btw if (when) you go there, say hi to barb for me. she'll be the loud old dyke (which is how she introduced herself i should note) sitting at the bar with the wall street journal. shes great she will prob talk to you first tbh

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

perhaps when it gets really hot this summer I will make a trip to the air conditioned city!

mh, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

my gf's bff works at scenic cafe

jj check out http://www.perfectduluthday.com/

Silky Slim (dan m), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

oh cool! thx man

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

lol here she is http://www.sceniccafe.com/our-family/wait-staff.shtml#page=W&id=4

Silky Slim (dan m), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

oh heyyyy

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

(sorry)

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

naw dude go for it she is A+

Silky Slim (dan m), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

word

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

there appears to be a record shop named "vinyl cave" in superior? maybe i must go to there.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

superior is weird

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

used to have the highest number of bars per capita until v recently?

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

spending one year anniversary in THE AIR CONDITIONED CITY yall

― Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:40 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

have fun! grandma's is stupid but you know that. go up the shore

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

used to have the highest number of bars per capita until v recently?

― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:48 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think that's lacrosse, wi - that's what friend was saying who was just up from

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

could be pretty much any small town in WI tbf

Silky Slim (dan m), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

COATES

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

i know that at least for a little bit coates def had the highest number of strip clubs per capita

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

apparently this is right next door to Vinyl Cave

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3075/2842202424_14a8481f47_z.jpg

Silky Slim (dan m), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://blog.thecurrent.org/post/2012/05/happy-homegrown-duluths-annual-music-festival-showcases-talented-tight-knit-community

need to make it back for this again sometime, such a great weekend

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

air conditioned city, i will see u tomorrow

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 18 May 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link

why is it called the air conditioned city

lag∞n, Friday, 18 May 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

2-B-1-ASK-1

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 18 May 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link

duluth, u r awesome

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Apparently all the zoo animals are on the loose during flash flooding?

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/603023_3720103754591_994469233_n.jpg

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

ha o fuk!

npr reporter this morning said the cops had it under control.

goole, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

wider ilx needs to see that picture, where'd you find it?

goole, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

Reporter friend's FB page. Not sure where she got it (she's Mpls-based, not Duluth, so I can't verify for sure).

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, reports say it looks like all but a few "barnyard" animals have been recaptured or died :(

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

Johnson said many of the zoo’s animals have drowned, including all but one of the zoo’s barnyard animals. She said the zoo’s donkey, goats and sheep have died. She said it’s possible others have drowned, as flooding on the grounds have consumed some of the exhibits, such as the raven and vulture cages.

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/234914/

DX Dx DX (dan m), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

really sad

ftr i didn't know there was a duluth zoo.

goole, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

holy crap

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/234914/

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

jeez MN, very apocalyptic run-up to my trip here

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

whoa

goole, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/uAzYV.jpg

DX Dx DX (dan m), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

awww

mh, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

skateboarding in the ruins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCrmw4goFYQ&feature=player_embedded

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

cool!

goole, Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

every once in awhile it boggles my mind how the prevalence of cheap/free editing software and ubiquitous digital HD video capable devices have made it so easy to see amateur stuff that looks so professional

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

its crazy how many skate rats populate the streets of duluth, its like traveling back in time.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

fyi since i apparently never reported back, vinyl cave was awesome, new scenic cafe is the shit, and the thirsty pagan in superior had some of the best beer i have had in forever and was super cool. i would totally live in duluth if i didnt have to have yknow a job and stuff

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Jet ski Deluth, with bonus Nicki Minaj:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T1Rm-j_iy4

The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

i would totally live in duluth if i didnt have to have yknow a job and stuff

This. Although my searches have been somewhat fruitful of late in unearthing possibilities.

DX Dx DX (dan m), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

that was awesome. i haven't been to duluth in ages, wonder how depressing it would be to see it now after all the nasty flooding.

arby's, Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

It wasn't all that noticeable last week. There are some parts south of town, especially near the river, that got pretty messed up and a couple roads still closed, but overall I don't think most of the city was too flooded.

your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Air conditioned my ass. It was like 95 when I passed through last week and ate at a rather elaborate rest area with a crazy up on the hill.

joygoat, Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

i will totes be looking for jobs in duluth when the time comes

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Forgot to update: Gonna be gettin' married in Duluth next year. :)

DX Dx DX (dan m), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

congratulations man! totally amazing place to get hitched in i would imagine.

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

nice one

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Went to a Duluth wedding and, yes, it was a fantastic city to do it in.

The view, the wind, the groom's dinner in the rotating restaurant.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

Hi from the Hammond in Superior.

DX Dx DX (dan m), Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link

Go to the thirsty pagan immediately, and if they have the anise saison, drink all of it for me

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't make it to Thirsty Pagan unfortch. But I did sample some awesome wedding eats at Midi in the Fitger's complex and drink a lot of Surly at Luce, where we're having the groom's dinner. I fucking love the Twin Ports.

DX Dx DX (dan m), Monday, 15 October 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

Also while wandering the streets of Superior I stumbled across the former headquarters of the Finnish Marxist newspaper Tyomies, something I had researched a little for a paper in college. My girl said that she had only ever known the building as a bar of the same name, which has since closed. There was a faded sign painted on the side of the building that said "DRINKING GETS DONE HERE" that initially caught my attention.

DX Dx DX (dan m), Monday, 15 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

Loving these fast-motion videos of boats arriving/departing the Twin Ports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsN4ydT_Ql4

a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

I am in Cloquet, like 15 miles away. This was the first gig I've ever done where my boss emailed me beforehand to let me know the customer was fully ready to come pick me up from the hotel in case my rental didn't start.

The temp this morning was -20'F with a windchill of 20+ deg below that

An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PofmKxIwArk

Dan I., Friday, 14 March 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

Really weird, 'cause that must have been filmed not too long after the Glensheen murders!

Dan I., Friday, 14 March 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Going to Duluth today :)

dan m, Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

:)

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/c0vNwf3.jpg

pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link

Lift Bridge Operator job opening

longform Gordon thinkpiece (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 03:27 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

love this thread title, sounds like a lost jules verne novel

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 17 June 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.startribune.com/duluth-bear-enjoys-an-afternoon-snack-a-dip-in-the-pool/388328241/

bear conditioned city

j., Wednesday, 27 July 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Haven't been to Duluth in too long. :(

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Welp, solved that, currently eating Pizza Luce and drinking Bent Paddle. This town never fails.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link

Nice

who even are those other cats (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

love me some duluth

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

excellent

El Tomboto, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

two months pass...
one month passes...

Second fire, larger than first, now raging at Superior refinery: https://t.co/FFWfm1sT7G

— John Myers (@newsduluth) April 26, 2018

holy shit

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

holy shit

gbx, Thursday, 26 April 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

"Now that working from home is widely accepted, more and more people are choosing where that home should be. For some people, that means places they feel are safer from the impacts of climate change, including Duluth."

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/01/28/how-much-is-climate-a-factor-in-where-people-are-moving/

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14:48 (two years ago) link

don't have much to add about duluth but want to chime in that i did the MS150 once, which starts in cloquet. the night prior to the ride i found an attempt at a tourism brochure for cloquet, and the front featured a picture of the lift bridge, and read 'close to duluth... yet far enough away!'

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 15:29 (two years ago) link

apologies, it was not cloquet. it was proctor

i guess i do have duluth related insights, my dad grew up there, and his father worked on the railroad in proctor, which sounds like basically an alien existence to me. i never knew my grandpa particularly well and most of the memories i have of him were being scared of him. anyway, when he retired, with no musical background he ended up buying some kind of electric organ. after he passed and they were cleaning out his belongings, someone found a cassette tape he'd made. it opened with his creaky old voice announcing 'this... is my music...'. followed by ten to fifteen minutes of straight up drone music. i know i've heard this tape once, i know someone has it somewhere. i really really need to find and acquire this recording of grandfather folk-drone

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

xxp
Doesn't matter how hot it gets in Duluth, it's air-conditioned!

nickn, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

It's hard for me to equate 'climate refugees' with current tech workers who probably make their own keffir

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

lol

Awesome Final Jeopardy answer today. All 3 contestants got it WRONG. 2 guessed Green Bay, and the other Minneapolis. Not bad guesses, but no. pic.twitter.com/GxtC7zk6Nv

— Bruce McGuire (@dunord) February 15, 2022

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link

I disagree btw, Minneapolis is a bad guess

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:21 (two years ago) link

yeah who the hell thinks minneapolis is on the great lakes?

that said i don't think i would have gotten it right.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link

I got my first vaccine shot last March in Duluth (no MN residency required) and explored the city for the first time in 15-20 years. Had no idea about the cool distillery/BBQ/taproom district that had sprung up since then.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 22:54 (two years ago) link

Yeah the west side of town is on the come up for sure.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 01:10 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

anyone know what the deal is with the Cargills buying up property on park point

gbx, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 22:56 (one month ago) link

they are billionaires and terrible people who are going to build some ugly shit hole compound is the sense I get

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 23:07 (one month ago) link

like are they buying the whole thing, it's nuts

gbx, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 23:50 (one month ago) link

Similar to the Monaco real estate guy buying up more than 13 properties in Carmel, CA.

I think I've only driven around Park Point, usually just to the end and then turning around, maybe gone to the beach there once.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Thursday, 21 March 2024 00:03 (one month ago) link

My wife is running the Grandma's Marathon in Duluth in June. We've never been. We're staying in the Lincoln Park area. Any current recommendations for dining? Looking for something casual and comfortable for Saturday night after the marathon. Breweries/Brewpubs with good food would work for this or at other times as well.

I'm also going back through the thread. I am way more excited than I was originally seeing all the enthusiasm for the city. Thanks in advance.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 31 March 2024 21:24 (one month ago) link

Fellow Brit I bumped into here in Rochester MN sent me some recommendations he'd given some friends, if we were ever up Duluth way too. Dunno if it's any use but it's what I have.

https://www.vabenecaffe.com/
https://northernwaterssmokehaus.com
https://www.bettyspies.com/
https://fitgers.com/restaurants-nightlife/

continue without dissembling (Matt #2), Sunday, 31 March 2024 22:41 (one month ago) link

Va Bene is great, and hanging right over the lake. New Scenic Cafe is fantastic, but a little ways north up Highway 61. Duluth Grill is just south of town and nearly a mandatory stop for our family when we're heading that way. Love Fitgers for the old school vibe.

bulb after bulb, Sunday, 31 March 2024 22:52 (one month ago) link

Thanks for the recommendations. Looks like some fun places. For Fitgers, which restaurant do you recommend?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 1 April 2024 10:58 (one month ago) link


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