ILX DRINK Fight Nomination/ Question Thread

Alright, so this one is going to be difficult. Here's the problems I'm having:

For the sake of consistency, we should have 64 entrants.

I don't think we can do 64 different TYPES of beer - or can we?

I think, because they do represent the VAST majority of beer consumed in the world, we need to include juggernauts like Budweiser, Coors, Heineken, Beck's, Bass, Guinness, etc., instead of only craft brews and quality macros.

If someone is already compiling this/building this poll, please let me know. Otherwise, I am happy to do it. Should be kind of fun.

don't think there are 64 beers than more than 50% of the voters will all be familiar with

I'd vote for 32

<a href="http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style";>64 different TYPES of beer</a>

no all-drinks poll?

I guess I'd recommend a mix of specifics (Huyghe Delirium Tremens, Budweiser, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, etc) and styles (saison, maibock). This is going to be tough. Very few ilxors have will have tasted all 64 on the bracket, no matter what they are, and won't be able to cast an informed vote.

fruit beer 4eva :D

sb

otm

Well, so . . . lets see how many different beers we can name, and which ones we think will make it ineteresting, yeah?

1. Bud
2. Guinness
3. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
4. Bass
5. Spaten lager
6. Pislner Urquel
7. Coors Light
8. Delirium

9. Duvel

10. Tsing Tao

11. Fuller's London Pride

how did I know that would cause ructions

srsly on a hot summer's day there is NONE SO REFRESHING as Fruli - first ILX thread I ever started, in fact (auspicious or what)

HIGH LIFE

13. Corona

*first ILE thread, I mean

YUENGLING

PBR

16. Murphy's Stout

17. Peroni

dos equis
honey brown
milwaukees best
harp
magic hat #9
newcastle

whatever it is that's a "bitter" at the down the road from my uncle's

Super Bock

Tecate

Summer Lightning

Shiner Bock

Timothy Taylor Landlord

amstel light
stella artois
anchor steam

Dixie

Beck's

Hoegaarden (lol)

and Leffe, its superior

Sam Adams Boston Lager

fat tire

and Erdinger

Sapporo

Red Stripe XD

This is going to be a solid 32

NOT Fosters

Heineken

Yeah, I'm good with excluding Fosters

Stone IPA

Kinda wishin' this was a pan-alcoholic thing, 8-10 spots out of 64 reserved for beer styles.

ten ppl have had stone

you think? We can totally do that, too. Might be more interesting. Would certainly include more people.

Can we get a mod to change the title to represent this?

NOT FUCKING Carling, or Boddington's, or any English lager ever

Kinda wishin' this was a pan-alcoholic thing, 8-10 spots out of 64 reserved for beer styles.

Thought this could be an all-beverage fight. Maybe do a separate one for juices then pit the two winners together?

Ten people have had Stone

Yes, but FIVE of them are ME, so it bears inclusion.

Alright, so - pan-alco -

Lager
Pilsner
Stout
Porter
IPA
Barleywine

Trappist Ale
American Lager

Bitter

Any others bear inclusion (except for lambics or other fruit beers)?

belgian

oh wait you had trappist

pan-alco idea otm

love beer the most but this would get 3x the participation

My liver and Marxist science tell me not to mix the alcohols and the non-alcohols.

10 beers, 15 wines, 20 base liquors, then liqueurs, cordials, bitters, etc

Just throwin' ideas out there.

lots of xposts, you guys have moved past my thinking already

lambic in the beers for sure!

and for other participants:

Red Wine -
Cabernet
Syrah/Shiraz
Zinfindel

White Wine -
Chardonnay
Pinot Grigio
Sauvignon Blanc

Port

Bourbon

Irish Whiskey

Scotch

Canadian Whiskey

Manhattan

Martini

Margarita

Cosmopolitan

Mimosa

Bloody Mary

Chelada

Caipirinha

Mojito

Cuba Libre

So, no cocktails?

cocktails are a good idea

I think so, too. I mean, we had hard cheese and pizza in the last one, right?

key hard alcohols + key cocktails

Specific drink recipes? I dunno, seems like they'd be overpowered in Rd 1.

Like I say, I'm tossing ideas like end-of-pub-crawl cookies, I bow to whatever the final decisions are without complaint.

mojito will win the poll, though, and deservedly too

wmc change the title already!

also guys

SCRUMPY

that is all

Specific drink recipes? I dunno, seems like they'd be overpowered in Rd 1

I think it'd be a lot like the food poll actually, like BLAM said, w/ pizza vs. cheese

What am I changing the title to again? Sorry, reading too fast and trying to unclog my email inbox.

Got it. So,

Bourbon
Scotch
Irish
Vodka
Tequila
Gin
Rum

Martini
Manhattan
Old Fashioned
Margarita
Bloody Mary
Gin & Tonic
Cuba Libre
Pina Colada
Vodka & Tonic
Americano
Cosmopolitan

Lager
Pilsner
Stout
Porter
IPA
Barleywine
Trappist/Belgians
American Lager
Bitter

Cabernet
Syrah/Shiraz
Zinfindel
Pinot Noir
Sangiovese
Chianti
Chardonnay
Pinot Grigio
Sauvignon Blanc
Prosecco
Champagne
Sake

ILX DRINK Fight Nomination/ Question Thread

SPIT-TAKE! ILX Beverage Wars 2010, how's that. Yeah, I hate it too.
xp

39 thus far

No, no... for THIS thread, keep it simple.

"ILX Drinks and Goes Home"

what does "Irish" mean

o whiskey i see

I SAID *SCRUMPY*

Campari
Ouzo
Palm Wine
Rye

Keep it real: Moonshine

also dude put Mojito in that list or else

Mojito

45 alco, 19 non?

I feel palm wine could get bumped by Diet Cola

Oh wait, is this All Drinks Ever? Coz man, the Juice Brigade of which I am Leader have some words to say about that proportion

Jagerbomb

Mojito, yes please?

xp if I were running this and you said "do x or else" I'd say "OH I THOUGHT YOU MEANT TEMP BAN ME OR ELSE!!!"

keep non-alcohol off imo, I mean 63 alcoholic drinks + coffee and coffee might win

True

alright, so 45, 19 to go

Jaeger
Tuaca
Gran Marnier

(also, pls pardon my spelling - tis bad this evening)

haha WmC I like how you manage to agree entirely with and also condemn my post there :D

keep this alcoholic I think too

Long Island Iced Tea?
Mai Tai?

notice I was polite and non-hyperbolic?

but that's just me

Sherry
Irish Coffee
Absinthe

Gimlet
Daiquiri
Long Island Iced Tea
Mint Julep

Mai Tai

Pimm's Cup

Rob Roy

Sazerac
Sidecar
Tom Collins

Pimm's Cup

I keep reading about this thing and wondering what it's like.

Stinger
Planter's Punch

Pimm's Cups are AWESOME summertime drinks

white russian?

don't necessarily use the first 64 you get also, toy around with em and drop the stuff that doesn't have a shot

'a shot'

Bourbon
Scotch
Irish
Vodka
Tequila
Gin
Rum

Martini
Manhattan
Old Fashioned
Margarita
Bloody Mary
Gin & Tonic
Cuba Libre
Pina Colada
Vodka & Tonic
Americano
Cosmopolitan

Lager
Pilsner
Stout
Porter
IPA
Barleywine
Trappist/Belgians
American Lager
Bitter

Cabernet
Syrah/Shiraz
Zinfindel
Pinot Noir
Sangiovese
Chianti
Chardonnay
Pinot Grigio
Sauvignon Blanc
Prosecco
Champagne
Sake
Campari
Ouzo
Palm Wine
Rye
Jaeger
Tuaca
Gran Marnier
Sherry
Irish Coffee
Absinthe

Gimlet
Daiquiri
Long Island Iced Tea
Mint Julep

Mai Tai
Pimm's Cup
Rob Roy
Stinger
Planter's Punch

Sex on the Beach
Kamikaze
Boilermaker
Irish Carbomb

Sazerac
Sidecar
Tom Collins

White Russian
Bellini

Not authoritative, but what I have thus far

don't necessarily use the first 64 you get also, toy around with em and drop the stuff that doesn't have a shot

^^^

Schnapps

Whiskey Mac

WmC, I didn't mean it as a threat or anything, was a jocular turn of phrase - some B.O.D. would be nice

Ramos Fizz
Negroni
Schnapps

Cement Mixer

Ugh. NO.

DB. (DEMAND Ban)

Ah, student initiation rites <3

CIDER

I am actually going to say SCRUMPY in exactly the tone of voice you think until it is recognised

fwiw Americans, Scrumpy is cider w/o fizz. plz suspend yr disbelief because when that shit is done well it is best of all time ever

yeah that reminds me, is there a way to ban british people from these polls

lol

one day we shall trip through shires and get some Old Rosie down our gullets and know joy

that's a lord of the rings thing right

malt liquor?

MALT LIQUOR

hahahahaha xpost!

how do we fit greyhound/salty dog/screwdriver in here? vodka+citrus?

I feel cider and malt liquor are pretty much auto-includes

vodka + citrus works for me, although purists might bitch

there maybe should be a beer poll but it needs to be done ilx film/music poll style rather than being limited to 50 options.

beer poll done this way ^ would be A++++

I'm on this one. You take that one.

oof let me recover from the metal poll for a while and then we'll see how im feeling

I feel like a beer poll is gonna have results that would be most frustrating to people who cared the most

Hence, its necessity.

heh. ya - all my favourite beers a local microbrews for the most part. i'd probably wind up voting for Heinekin or something that would otherwise be 8 or so on my list.

beer popists will vote corona and bud to a surprisingly and infuriatingly high placement

or pbr

Yeah, I know. The Ramos Fizz is basically the Dhalsim of this poll.

I actually did drink a Budweiser this decade -- it didn't kill me.

i'll vote ramos fizz to the goddamn top

Dude, I'll drink the hell out of some Budweiser if its ice cold and there's nothing else to drink and I'm thirsty and can be assured a TALL drink of Gatorade prior to bed.

but ONLY under those circumstances.

am currently drinking a bud light out of the can, am also a disgusting savage

where did I place that sb oh here it is

Alright. I'm going to go have as many of these poll applicants as I can this evening.

yeah there should be a polite agreement that you don't get to vote against something unless you've actually had it.

okay so w/r/t that, it might be sorta a headache buttt

you could have 'don't know / haven't tried' as an option for each pair

otherwise people are forced to vote for something, and in this poll there's a pretty high chance that most of us haven't tried something or another. that's gonna require...24? choices instead of the regular 16, but I think it'd be worth it.

no one is "forced" to vote in these things tho!

it's not like we lose ilx points for not partaking in a poll.

forced in the sense that, if they have opinions on 3 of the matchups and haven't tried the other two, they either have to not vote or vote for something they're unfamiliar with

would look like:

Hard Cheeses, Berries, Eggs, Tacos
Hard Cheeses, Berries, Eggs, Chocolate
Hard Cheeses, Berries, Eggs, (Pass)
Hard Cheeses, Berries, Ice Cream, Tacos
Hard Cheeses, Berries, Ice Cream, Chocolate
Hard Cheeses, Berries, (Pass), Chocolate
Hard Cheeses, Soup, Eggs, Tacos
Hard Cheeses, Soup, Eggs, Chocolate
Hard Cheeses, Soup, (Pass), Chocolate

etc.

aaaahhh - i c whachew mean

too many cocktails in the list. i mean, sex on the beach, who drinks that?

also needs:

perry aka pear cider
wheat beer
port
alcopops

port lol u british

does alcopops include md2020?

Cider/Scrumpy/Perry is essential, it would be like leaving apples off the food poll.

More leftfield:

Fortified Wine (Buckie etc)
Amaretto
Pernod

Fortified Wine (Buckie etc)

make that "low end fortified wine" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-end_fortified_wine, that'll do for mad dog too. alcopops are much classier.

what are the top alcopops these days? *reminisces on news features abt 'hooch'*

breezers I guess. is smirnoff ice an alcopop?

the only one worth considering.

in the past month or so (that hadn't been listed)

san miguel
estrella damm
blue moon
sam smith's alpine lager (formerly ayingerbräu)
sam smith's wheat beer (formerly ayingerbräu Hefe Weiss)
asahi
budvar
budvar dark
st peter's organic ale
st peter's golden ale
sierra nevada porter

surely the final 64 needs to come from a league (poll) from each group?

Beers
Cocktails
Wine
Spirits

and the allocation of the 64 will be based on the coefficient for each group? (based on total votes in each category's poll)

that would be 16/16/16/16 right? I don't think there are enough 'types of beer'/'types of spirits' that would be universally familiar. might work with individual beers or spirits.

MEAD

oh and SOJU

Amaretto

HOLY SHIT THIS^^^^^^^^

So, I'll have this up this evening. I'm running a little behind today, due to a broken hot water heater. AWESOME!

Here's a list of 16 beer styles, along with potential representative brands:

IPA (Lagunitas IPA)
Pale ale (Sierra Nevada Pale Ale)
American lager (Budweiser)
German lager (Paulaner)
Stout (Guinness)
Porter (Fuller's London Porter)
Wheat (Hoegaarden)
Lambic (Lindemans Framboise)
Malt liquor (Olde English)
Brown ale (Newcastle)
Bitter (Fuller's ESB)
Pilsner (Pilsner Urquell)
Trappist (Chimay)
Red/amber ale (Smithwick's)
Blonde ale (Leffe Blonde)
Barleywine (Sierra Nevada Bigfoot)

(Feel free to quibble with this.)

would the "spirits" bracket include liqueurs?

or would you just break it down like for example:

rum
tequila
vodka
gin
scotch
brandy
bourbon
whiskey
congac
schnapps
jenever
mezcal
ouzo
armagnac
chiew
applejack

(pulled from here: http://www.physics.uq.edu.au/people/nieminen/spirits.html )

i think this is just too much. an all encompassing booze poll, i mean...

the food poll was a mishmash of ingredients, specific foods, and whole dish-styles. i guess that kind of works for booze too, in some ways, since, say 'drambuie' and 'chartreuse' are brands as well as the only thing of its kind.

but man, i dunno.

as someone who deals with categorizing information and someone who loves to drink this is really bugging me out

unicum vs malört would be kind of fantastic, particularly if you had to taste-test before voting

http://www.flickr.com/groups/malortface/pool/

haha @ ^^^^

again I think a (pass) option is key here

I'mna bet there's nobody here who will have tried all 64, no matter what we end up with

fully support jaymc's 16 btw

ONE example for each is a great idea too

ha i bet i will have tried all 64, but i realize that i am a special case

Alright, I'm going to work this thing up.

Its going to be an all-alcoholic bevs poll, out of the interest of seeing a good bit of trans-category conflict.

I'm going to keep jaymc's 16 beers.

Alright - the brackets have been completed. First groups going up now.

tbf this one actually had a definitive answer

Freal tho fuck unicum