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Anyone would be forgiven for not eagerly anticipating Poland vs Greece but the tournament kicks off in TWO DAYS. Get used to these sights:

http://emajmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/english-fans-at-england-algeria-game.jpg

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week4/15655059.jpg

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.mnpls.com/306/30622.jpg

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone would be forgiven for not eagerly anticipating Poland vs Greece

I am though! Coupla Celtic players in either side. Don't know if the Polish guy will play tho.

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

Don't know if the Polish guy will play tho

If his Celtic "career" has been anything to go by, I suspect probably not.

ailsa, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

who's that, brozek? nah no chance

i am officially riding for polska this tournament fyi

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

Generally hope for the best for Poland but they are invariably utter shite in tournaments

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

oh i know, believe me

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

I have my Yulia Tymoshenko t-shirt at the ready.

Brozek's still probably the second best striker Poland has so i'd imagine he'd get a few sub appearances.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

If only their best strikers didn't keep playing for Germany

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

Lewandowski is pretty handy tho. The Guardian podcast tipped him as a decent outside bet for top scorer

Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

Poland should be p good with their all Dortmund right hand side + Lewandowski. Excited.

pandemic, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

I love Eastern European footballers, since USA 94 I've gone into pretty much every tournament hoping for a new Stoitchkov and Hagi and I've usually been disappointed. Any decent Ukranians out there who could have an impact?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Yarmolenko

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

rafal wolski at legia warsaw's meant to be handy on the left too, dortmund are trying to do a deal

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

konoplyanka at dnipro

yarmolenko is a paaar n pace epl type

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

hrvatska

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link

can't imagine supporting poland, too maudlin, too boring

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link

Slawomir Peszko (Cologne)

The winger won't be going to Poland and Ukraine after being dropped following a drink-fuelled incident with a taxi driver but his experience reveals plenty about Smuda and his relationship with his players. (Also, the Cologne player has four kidneys, which was only discovered when he joined the Bundesliga team in 2011. His mum reportedly said about her son: he just "goes to the bathroom more than most people".)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

He swallowed his twin brother when he was 3 iirc

pandemic, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

Igor Denisov

He is, without a doubt, the Russian Mark van Bommel. The Zenit St Petersburg midfielder has been involved in a series of incidents on and off the pitch, including: a brawl with the Spartak coach, Valery Karpin; a refusal to join the national team before Euro 2008; a fight with a team-mate, as well as with a driving instructor and several security officers. He is a really good chess player, which may surprise some considering his tough-guy image. He has two South African pitbulls. Never gives an interview.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

what's not to love!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

2       Russia 	DF 	Aleksandr Anyukov
3 Portugal DF Bruno Alves
4 Italy DF Domenico Criscito
6 Belgium DF Nicolas Lombaerts
8 Serbia FW Danko Lazović
9 Russia FW Aleksandr Bukharov
10 Portugal MF Danny
11 Russia FW Aleksandr Kerzhakov
14 Slovakia DF Tomáš Hubočan
15 Russia MF Roman Shirokov
16 Russia GK Vyacheslav Malafeev (captain)
17 Italy MF Alessandro Rosina

No. Position Player
18 Russia MF Konstantin Zyryanov (1st vice-captain)
20 Russia MF Viktor Fayzulin
22 Russia GK Dmitri Borodin
23 Hungary MF Szabolcs Huszti
24 Serbia DF Aleksandar Luković
25 Russia MF Sergei Semak (2nd vice-captain)
27 Russia MF Igor Denisov
29 Russia FW Andrei Arshavin (on loan from Arsenal)
30 Belarus GK Yuri Zhevnov
34 Russia MF Vladimir Bystrov
63 Russia DF Denis Terentyev
99 Russia FW Maksim Kanunnikov

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

bruno alves looks like a departure from their traditional 'no blacks' policy

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link

Also, the Cologne player has four kidneys

oh of course.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

WHAT?

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

Nikica Jelavic

The Everton striker's colourful uncle, also called Nikica Jelavic and nicknamed "The Boxer", is said to be "the uncrowned king of Zagreb". He has been linked to several high-profile incidents, one including a failed assassination attempt using a handheld rocket launcher in the city centre, when a passer-by was blown up in 1999. Each time he was cleared of all charges by the court. "He helped me a lot in my career because he loves me, and our relationship is strictly family," says Jelavic the footballer.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

Think the CM for Russia, Shirokov, once faked a broken leg or smthg like that.

pandemic, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

russia should surely have a bunch of sub-standard brazilians in their squad these days, c'mon let's diversify.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

Evhen Khacheridi. Not so long ago Oleksandr Aliev called his Dynamo Kyiv team-mate "The woodpecker". Khacheridi was known for his stupid behaviour on the pitch, which saw him sent off several times, but he has now matured and is playing his best football. He is a cool, collected and reliable operator.

mizzell, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

Yes. It doesn't seem to be mobile-accessible, but I'll have a look shortly.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

Poland's passionate coach Franciszek Smuda is so excited by the prospect of Euro 2012 that, according to assistant Jacek Zielinski, he's behaving like a feral animal.

"Smuda? He's like a wild fox in a cage," champions Zielinski. "He just wants to waste them all. He can't wait."

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

knew that would be a bullshit translation, and so it proved

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

waste dem wastermen

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Heiko Wastemann (born 14 August 1983 in Alzenau, West Germany) is a German footballer who plays as defender for German Bundesliga club Hamburger SV and the German national team.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

Did McManaman ever actually play for England after that? I'm struggling to remember.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

mcmanaman never got a decent go for england, ludicrous.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

You could cast him in with Hoddle, Le Tiss, Rio, etc. as too suspiciously foreign for England. He did play in the 4-1 Holland game I'm sure, but seemed to fade out of the reckoning as he got more accomplished.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

england's mythical left winger, too good for them imo

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

was "no way no way, mcmanaman" ever a chant?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

hard 'ch'?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

not today

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

don't get fresh with me

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

lol

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/BC0Eh.gif

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

great country by country previews at zonal marking: http://www.zonalmarking.net/category/euro-2012/

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah been reading them, good stuff.

pandemic, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

Wait are Italy really playing Cassano and Balotelli upfront these days? Ohboy.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

has cassano even been playing regularly for milan or are they merely seeking lols?

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

mcmananaman had the starts but never really did it for england in my recollection

rarely failed to underwhelm throughout his whole career tbh, hindsight be kind to him

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

hes been sick for most of last year

in any case he is 29 and is fairly sensible these days

balotelli, provided he has no defensive responsibilities, is less of a problem than the great british public's ardently expressed need for an angry black hate figure would have you believe

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

knew i shouldve just typed macca xp

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

mac mañana mañana mañana man

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

tbf to the great british public for a change that is not quite the need they have of mario is it, it's more the carrot/stick gazza loony angle

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/banana1.jpg

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

balotelli could be a love figure but insists on being a cunt so idk i'm giving the great british public a free pass on this one regardless of his colour

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

don't rly see the vermin with the little england flags treat loveable bipolar wifebeater gazza in the same fashion as balotelli

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

trea-ting

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

anyway deems good luck in poland, don't say anything nasty about the dead king of pederasts karol wotyla and you should be fine

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

gazza's wackiness well within the realms of the oddball pal of your little england vermin, balotelli's brand of mentalism all his own.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

He was much-loved 'til he was acting like a dick around Easter and he's still not really hated, maybe save the racist aspertions for whatever next catches your displeasure.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

everyone loves his (fictional) off the field antics

Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

i wasn't in love with him kicking scotty parker in the head, after all scotty done for the queen gawd blesser in WWI

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think after his slightly derange performance vs arsenal the linekerite bantuhstans seeking a king in the mountain have given up on mario and are probably looking for another bantuh legend to patronize

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

he actually seems bothered about playing for italy and pranelli is super suspect of him so i don't really envisage any problems

maybe more worrying for italy would be whether their narrow, pedestrian midfield is going to do enough running to make up for balo & cassano

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Platini and Collina have both warned him about being booked already.

boxall, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

UEFA president Michel Platini has told the official Euro 2012 kick-off press conference that any player who leaves the pitch due to racist abuse will be given a yellow card.

Platini confirmed that the rule preventing players from leaving the field of play without the referee's permission would be enforced even if they are the victims of racism from the stands in Poland and Ukraine.

The comments came after Mario Balotelli last week threatened to walk off the pitch if he suffered racist abuse during Italy's Euro 2012 games - and Platini confirmed he would be punished in that event.

"It's a yellow card," Platini said at a Warsaw press conference dominated by the theme of racism. "We'd certainly support the referee if he decided to stop the game. It's not a player, Mr Balotelli, who's in charge of refereeing. It's the referee who takes these decisions.

"So the referee has been given advice and he can stop the game if there are problems. We will stop the game if there are problems because I think racism is the worst of this.''

UEFA's chief refereeing officer, Pierluigi Collina, underlined Platini's sentiment, insisting the teams had been informed of the procedure in the event of racist abuse being a problem.

"Things are clear,'' he said, confirming that officials had also been fully briefed. "Referees have a protocol so they know what they have to do. The match director, who is responsible for each match, knows what has to be done on the field of play."

Platini, though, refused to be drawn on the findings of last week's BBC Panorama programme, as well as Sol Campbell's warning that black fans who travel to the tournament risk "coming back in a coffin''.

The Frenchman, who was increasingly angered by the line of questioning, added: "What would you like me to say? How would you want me to answer this?

"Everyone can do what they like. I don't think there's any more racism in Poland and Ukraine than in France or anywhere else, or even in England. It's not a footballing problem. It's a problem for society.

"I'm not charge of what goes on in football stadiums. It's the states that need to take charge of this. There have been problems with violence in the 1970s in England.

"They made great strides actually to change the situation, and we need to do work in the field of racism and we need to stop this from happening. How can you say outside the stadium: 'He's a racist - he can't come in, he's not a racist - he can come in'? You can't do it."

Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

ugh i can imagine the leading questions from the english hack scums

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

england's peerless and unblemished post-racial paradise is now another myth for boorish patriots to cling to

now every retard on twitter has been prosecuted, england is free of racism and we can sneer at those horrible eastern european countries where they hang foreigners from trees and drink their blood

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Is this tournament thread going to be 75% "Daily Mail" / "Dem not gonna con dis nation"-type content?

boxall, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

thought mario was going to get sent-off in the 2nd half against Russia the other night. He looked to be heading that way. Still he played well. Cassano didn't.

pandemic, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

i wasn't in love with him kicking scotty parker in the head, after all scotty done for the queen gawd blesser in WWI

― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:14 PM (19 minutes ago)

that was pretty good, suarez kicking him in the balls was a hans molemanish classic

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1417a86.gif

suarez beautifully naturalistic mea culpa gesture is better than mario's obviously feigned fall

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-11cyali.gif

content tbh

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a decent downloadable wallchart out there that i can get for this thing?

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

noble mario and luis are just trying to whack the shellshock out of the poor blighter's noggin. xxp.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

lol boxall

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

btw i am very annoyed at my department for making june the most important month of the year, don't you see that i have PRIORITIES?

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

(it's also prevented me from going to lol deleuze workshop in notlol new orleans. D: )

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

iirc there was a study about how boys underperform scholastically in even years (except for 2008 and 1994 presumably)

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

it's also prevented me from going to lol deleuze workshop in notlol new orleans

I have no idea what this meanz

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

being stuck here through june means i can't be excessively geeky and go to deleuze2012.com , nor be ungeeky and happen to be in new orleans for summer.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a decent downloadable wallchart out there that i can get for this thing?

― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:44 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I haven't checked to see if this works and is free from errors but:
http://www.36sports.com/latest-news/euro-2012-schedule-betting-tips-download-excel-and-jpg-2/

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

i made the mistake of reading the times a couple of months ago, and in the g2 aping pullout section full of insincere lifetsyle dogshit some waste cunt was explaining how scott parker made him proud to support the h'england team on the grounds that i) he ran around a lot and ii) his throwback haircut exacerbated the dunkirk spirit of the whole thing

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

de leuze sounds like an underachieving Belgian u21 prodigy

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

with de leuze and de ridder you have the midfield of a solid mid-table championship side.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

just reading thru the excellent ZM previews, realizing how much i like the 16 team format and how crap the early stages are likely to be when it moves to 24 teams

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for the link Onimo, that looks great!

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

his throwback haircut exacerbated the dunkirk spirit of the whole thing

I rather like his haircut. It looks quite good on him but what grown person seriously talks about a footballer's haircut in relation to their support for a national side?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Someone needs to undo his top button to release the pressure

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

tbf to wayne he does look very much better with the hair.

but. still.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

he's getting overconfident is the problem

Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

ya he isn't fair from growing an raf moustache and hanging around on brick lane with that look.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

far

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

why does our scotty wear those fucking horrible skintight shorts all the time? god i can't stand him.

Chris, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Beckham is looking immense these days, speaking of 'that look'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

and hanging around on brick lane with that look.

I just read the wiki about Brick Lane but I'm not sure I infer everything I'd like to about this post. /tuomas

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Is there some kind of UKIP provocation thing that goes on there?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

Waine Pryce

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah beckham's current look is great .

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

wellll tbh i'd say becks' damn good quality beard is putting an american deadwood kinda slant on it that sets him apart from joey barton's zorg look which itself is on the punk fringe of the stu pearce/parker/twp ukip look

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

(parker being on the furthest opposite end of that scale leaning towards apolitical general debonair)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

I saw a flash of colour on Parker's boots the other day. Fucking sell-out.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

set up a league. code is 336437-76498

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

ach with the brick lane thing i just meant that wayne, retro side-parting and all, was beginning to let out his inner hipster. i'm evidently not v good at being understood tonight.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

I think Rooney's 'do is less retro side-parting than comb-over because his fake hair isn't working out quite how he planned. Good enough for Bobby Charlton.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

who is the most hipster of the England squad?

Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

i have a feeling i may have asked that question before

Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

obv ilx hero leighton.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

not jim.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

Lawro just daringly picked France to win it on BBC's shite preview show. Shearer, mindful of past embarrassments no doubt, went for Germany.

Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02240/englanders_2240922b.jpg

some odd-shaped heads going on there

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

Everybody next to EBJT is white.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Thursday, 7 June 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link

set up a league. code is 336437-76498

I'm in. Nobody else is.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/2BpIn.png

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:29 (eleven years ago) link

Defoe has gone home (due to the death of his father, sadly). Just Welbeck and Carroll available for the first two games

Number None, Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link

robo-roon rockin this look imho:

http://www.futuredude.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/prometheus-david-michael-fassbender-android.jpg

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:39 (eleven years ago) link

set up a league. code is 336437-76498

I'm in. Nobody else is.

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:25 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

done

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:41 (eleven years ago) link

too late to call someone else in?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

he's expected to return "in due course"

Number None, Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:05 (eleven years ago) link

english funerals take forever iirc

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

Who is that? Looks like the guy from Deacon Blue (xxxxp)

So disappointing that nobody is tipping England to do well this year... apart from Phil Brown

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

joined the league.

predos:

Winners: Germany
Runners up: Italy
Poland and France in the Semis
England knocked out of Group Stages by Sweden

Top goalscorer: Nando Torres

Theo will score a beautiful insane goal against a 10 men Ukraine that guarantees he'll be shitty and not live up to expectations next season.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

lol 'up' to 'expectations'

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty sure it's Geordie from Killing Joke xxp

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

xpost

tom d - ricky ross = michael fassbender in prometheus

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

So when you subtract Ricky Ross from me you get Michael Fassbender? Cool.

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

Have you ever genuinely thought England would win a tournament?

I did in 2002 - I was utterly convinced it was going to happen, at least from the first round when dodgy penalty/Argentina battering on the door to no effect, and maybe before. I could watch the start of games before going to work, and seeing Owen's jammy goal against Brazil just confirmed that it was all written.

It seems kinda insane in retrospect, but when I arrived at work to find that Ronaldinho, Rivaldo et al had turned it round, my brain could not comprehend how this could have happened.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

No.

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

nah to be fair i reckon england have a great chance of winning the carling cup with wellbeck and carroll up front.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link

i thought england would win euro 96 tbh

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link

^^ aye, with the home advantage i thought they were a sure thing

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link

I thought they might after Gary McAllister expertly aimed that penalty kick at David Seamsn's arse

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

i think england will get through the group stage, then somehow scrape victory from jaws of defeat through the knockout stages, john terry will be suspended for the final, england gets outplayed for 90 minutes by another team that misses 40 barn doors and england equalises in the 88th minute then the other team miss a penalty and england win euro 2012 in a penalty shootout with John Terry coming back out wearing a beefeater uniform and fuck the world

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

wonder if sheva has any terry beef and if he could get someone to stamp on his face in the group stage

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

ireland are obviously going to win. the country needs a lift and this will be our f u to our euro overlords.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link

darraghmac will feature in an iconic newsreel

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:13 (eleven years ago) link

wait, if we win don't we have to host the next one? It'll sink the country!

Number None, Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

Nice try Ireland, the whole of the southern eurozone is in the queue ahead of you.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

the country needs a lift and this will be our f u to our euro overlords.

You're sounding like a Englishman now

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

it's a ruddy disgrace what they've done to us.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

we used to have our own pound!!!

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

Have you ever genuinely thought England would win a tournament?

I've never thought pre-tournament 'England *will* win this', but when England reached the semis in Euro 96 I thought they had the best chance of the four teams still in it. Euro 2004 was looking good up until Rooney's metatarsal went. World Cups of 90 and 02 didn't start off promising much, but reached a point where I thought 'if we can beat Germany/Brazil, we'll probably win the whole thing' (but that was always obviously a big if).

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

just got italy in the work sweep. shame they're going out in the group stages.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

they are?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

you've obviously not noticed ireland are in that group??

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

i suppose tho spain or croatia could also fail to get the 4 points to our 9

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

will prob depend on who concedes the most against us in the end

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

reading the zonal marking thing and he makes ireland sound like the most depressing team going. obv they'll win it.

also i'll never not be amazed by stats like this: Cristiano Ronaldo (146 goals in 144 games for Real Madrid)

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

ireland's formation featuring one player in the opposition half is p good.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

Roy biting Trap's style or vice versa?

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

andy carroll would be so good in trapp's ireland team.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Walters should play ahead of Doyle really

Number None, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

loved trap's "no tracking back = ur pontius pilate" line

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

one must also fully commend cox maintaining remarkable journalistic sangfroid in painstakingly enumerating quite plausibly the grimmest international side in the history of football

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Little over the top. We're hardly the first side to play defensively, and even if we ignore some creative players the issue of whether we could succeed with a better brand of football is debatable.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

a hoy hoy tempering his challops by safe betting germany for championees

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

I've switched from thinking Germany would win this a month ago to thinking that they won't even get out of their group now. Possibly crystallised by so many of the BBC pundits tipping them.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Their predictions are incredibly safe. Going for an england semi makes Shearer the Stockhausen of punditry.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

His reasoning? "I'm a proud Englishman".

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Group winners: Russia, Germany, Spain, France
Runners-up: Poland, Netherlands, Croatia, England
QF: RUS def NED, ESP def ENG, POL def GER, FRA def CRO
SF: Russia over Spain, France over Poland
France 2-1 Russia final (Ribery, Giroud; Pavlyuchenko)

boxall, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Russia haven't a hope in hell of beating Spain!

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

I rather hope you're right, would like to see Spain beat lesser like they ought to, just suspect they're going to struggle.

boxall, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

beat lesser sides*

boxall, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Now I have them in the work sweep, I expect Russia to win everything.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

The ZM piece on Spain was v good I thought. I wonder if Spain do try to get both Silva and Iniesta in the starting 11 on the wings. It kinda worked for City with Nasri and Silva sometimes, but then sometimes it didn't and they needed YaYa to step forward to save them. Also I haven't watched much of Spain post South Africa so interested to see what kind of role Cesc plays presuming he's even starting.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Poland beating Germany is the crazy prediction there.

I'm in two minds on Spain. On one hand I feel they're knackered and bound to hit a wall at some point. On the other they're clearly better than everyone else except maybe Germany, and they have forwards too, so might mop up at a canter.

Spain-Italy's a belter of a first game, really looking forward to that.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Russia have impressed me most in the warm up games, maybe France too fwiw, which is probably not much.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

I think Pirlo might have to do too much defending vs Spain for Italy to be effective. Then again it least it won't be counter attack defending where his lack of pace would really be exposed. But seriously in their last game the positioning of the Italian full backs in a back four was woeful and was easy pickings for clever passes inside them which should suit Spain to a tee.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't watched any warmups, I needed a break to try to come to this fresh. I could've done with a couple more weeks tbh, the calendar's so draining these days.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I've almost been reduced to actually doing jobs around the house and gardening and crap now that there haven't been multiple games on my DVR waiting for me when I get home from work. Thank G_d for the NBA play-offs.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

I hear you - I pointed myself towards the Sopranos box set instead. Kind of aggrieved the footy's going to get in the way of that now, it's effing great.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

just when you thought you were out...they pull you back in

Number None, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

I'm for Italy all the way now anyway

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

set up a league. code is 336437-76498

― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:46 (Yesterday)

i'm in. also i picked paul mcshane. cower.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

i'm in two minds about all of the big hitters, france starting to look attractive purely out of unpredictability

fwiw poland gave germany a damn good game they were unlucky not to win in a recent friendly

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

i don't want to know what savage and cruel god of efficiency germany are worshipping if mertesacker is a better fit than hummels (per zm)

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i read that with disbelief too! Surely there's no way.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

so many of the teams have major questions at the back, no?
bruno alves and pepe & terry and lescott might be among the best center back pairings in the tournament.
and whoever plays for italy i guess.

mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

I'm betting on a red card for either bruno alves or pepe.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

QF: NED def POL, ENG def SPA, GER def ???, FRA ?omg? IRE

SF: NED def ENG, GER ??? ???

F: NED def GER or FRA def NED

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

feel the fuckin vibe

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

alternatively and quite possibly, SPA def SWE in the QF and sail through to win it

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

inglund av it in um ta goo all tha way.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

bloody hell could it be that mizzel's right about cb pairings??

errr cos that would then also mean that jagielka-lescott would undisputably be the best

kjaer - agger? heitinga - mathijsen? maybe it's the greeks. has shakira really ruined pique that badly?

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

didn't see much serie a this season but italy's two juventus guys are presumably no bad.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

kjaer seems to blow hot and cold. certainly not the dutch.
pique ramos certainly has the potential to be the best, but it's not certain.

mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

true Bonucci- Chiellini both from Juve should be the best pair.

mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

i looked them up

mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

Chiellini was awesome at the last Euros, especially in the knock-out game vs Spain. He's a terrible one for faking tho.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

an italian faking?????????!!!!!?

mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

ha, i know, but even by those standards he's the king.

pandemic, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

ZM guy pointed out today that bad CBs = DMs camping deep = goalless tournament ahoy.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

yeah he can be frustrating to watch. he's no pepe though. xp

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

joined the league too btw.

starting to think france will do well this year, they'll definitely walk the group stage and should manage italy in the qf.

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

who's this Polanski who's been selected in 36.3% of the fantasy teams?

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

mm barzagli-chiellini as a duo would probably be the tournament best, bonucci is the iffy one of the juve 3

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

eugen polanski, german dmc playing for poland who before the reality of his career sank in once said he'd support germany over poland

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Euro 2012 was plunged into its first racism controversy after the black players in the Holland squad were subjected to monkey chants during an open practice session in the same city where England will also invite the public to watch them train on Friday.

Several hundred people targeted players such as Nigel de Jong and Gregory van der Wiel when 25,000 spectators attended the Dutch practice session at the Stadion Miejski, the home of Wisla Krakow.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/07/euro-2012-holland-racist-abuse

Number None, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

Wisla hooligans are amongst the worst. I'd hope that the practice matches had a higher percentage of ultras who'd turn up for anything and the proper matches have a more balanced, normal crowd.

I have a feeling this might be a bigger issue in Poland than Ukraine.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

Man oh man I can't wait for this to start. Even though I won't be able to see games since the first ones start at midnight for me. Also, all of you picking France to do well in this tournament, i'll repeat what i said on the other thread iirc: you're all crazy. As much as I want to believe I still fully expect them to do something stupid, like maybe fight with each other on the pitch while the opposing team scores goals like there's no tomorrow. Or ben arfa menez and ribéry having an on-pitch contest to see who can keep the ball for longest without losing it/who will play the longest while refusing to pass the ball, ever.

Jibe, Friday, 8 June 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

who's this Polanski who's been selected in 36.3% of the fantasy teams?

― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:04 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this will be thrown off by some players being rlly cheap sub options so ppl can try and fit in ronny, rvi and ozil or whatever

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

i only managed to fit two of those three :'(. paul mcshane, you're seemingly no polanski.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 8 June 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link

i am in this league. jelkino breus

toandos, Friday, 8 June 2012 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://i49.tinypic.com/35iugdx.jpg

toandos, Friday, 8 June 2012 05:59 (eleven years ago) link

Beautiful. I don't know why I always spend time designing the kit, I get nothing out of it. At least you can see it, unlike my carefully-selected avatar.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 06:13 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/06/08/3157385/xavi-mourinho-will-not-go-down-in-footballing-history

do you ever get the feeling this truce might not be 100% for realsies

r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

"great set of lads though the madrid boys," he said balling his fists so tightly they bled

r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link

That's it, Muller has to start ahead of him

Mike Helms (via Facebook): Who would you like to swap places with, just for a day?

Götze: Justin Bieber. I mean there’s quite a lot of hype surrounding us players, but that’s small beer when you look at this guy. I’d just love to be in his shoes for a day, see what it’s like being on stage as a singer or actor.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

That's the hubristic setup that was missing for a Spanish disaster here, good work Xavi

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

‏@TheRealEboue
Enjoy your holiday @rioferdy5 . Roy is gonna regret that decision. Licking John terry's salty balls. I hope he chokes on it.

@TheRealEboue
Just bcuz @rioferdy5 stood up 4 his brother that was racially abused by Mr JT. U disrespect d guy & drop him. Mr Roy shud shit & eat it

Matt DC, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

What, is Müller not starting? I've a fantasy team depends on him.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

He'll be starting IK, don't worry.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

Van Bommel OTM

When it was put to Van Bommel on Thursday that the chanting was a protest against Euro 2012 organisers, he said: "Open your ears. If you did hear it and don't want to hear it, that is even worse."

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

Muller's been a bit pony this year hasn't he? I'd worry about building a team around him.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

i thought he had been dropped more because he was criticizing heynckes and the other players than for playing poorly

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

three goals and seven assists in the ten qualifying games

Number None, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

has the fantasy league site crashed for everyone?

second only to popcorn (or something), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

never mind. i wouldn't dilly dally if you want to get a team in though.

second only to popcorn (or something), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

michael ballack as an analyst alongside alexi lolas? lol

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

Eh hold on, the early kickoffs are at five o'clock, not six? I'm not going to be home in time ffs.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Is that his expression upon hearing that Loew is considering Sven Bender at full-back?
xp
So stoked for this btw. Looking forward to the Piszczek/Kuba right wing axis this afternoon. Oh good an opening ceremony, at least it isn't 4 hours long.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

12 minutes long apparently, ALL OF WHICH I WILL BE MISSING

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

There's a dj on a bedazzled gold shirt. And charlie adam in a tuxedo print tee shirt!

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

the pianist is now doing keepy uppys. i hope the london2012 opening ceremony has something that good to go with reanimated keith moon.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

piano guy is rubbish at football

Number None, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

surprised Greece aren't starting that young Schalke CB Kyriakos, thought he was supposed to be excellent.

boxall, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

well his shirt has 'Adam' on the back. More LFC at the Euros#biggestclubineurope

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

but they said pianist used to play in one of the countries' national futsal team
xp

Jibe, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

there are inflatable paddling pools on the pitch, which has been covered in a big tarpooling. and now they have organised people into a white six point star. could be an anti-jewish thing, commentary isn't letting on.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

xxp yes he's raw but v physically imposing and used to playing against lewandowski, i'm surprised as well.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

michel platters didn't look impressed.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

greece are going to lose because of the austerity measures according to hansen

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

hasn't this ninis kid been the next big thing for a long time? i see he has joined palermo for next season.

mizzell, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

looking forward to seeing ninis

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

the greek messi

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

glad to see Ninis is starting. ZM said he might just be an impact sub. never actually seen him tho

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

omfg my flatmate hasn't paid the internet bill which means i'm phone-tethering with not enough allowance to stream video. i'll kill um.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

Sami time! A chance for the big man to infuriate on the big stage.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

There's international futsal now?! xp I suppose there are really good world cups and everything going on, while we spend a few decades refusing to participate.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

gekas such a goal poacher, barely looks like a footballer for most of the 90 mins.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

Is this the best tournament ever yet?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

2 of the last 3 Euros have been great. Bound to be a disappointment.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Poland killing it down the right.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

blimey that was close. greece are looking like a mess already. everyones lewandowski tgs bets could be working out here.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

LEWANDOWKI!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

1-0! My man!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

greece unsurprisingly looking awful

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Poland killing it down the right.

Was about to post that then the goal came from the right. Greek defence is a mess, left back caught 1 v 2 umpteen times.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

If Greece are gonna score it's going to be a set play surely.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

tbf to Greece tho, lewandowski was going to score here no matter what.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

no way a yellow there

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

Neither team has done much since the goal. Greece look bereft of ideas.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, poland have regressed since the goal. Greece are there for the taking and poland should try to finish them. A 2nd goal would end it against this lot.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Boenisch looks ropey at LB for Poland.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Samaras has been Greece's best player by far imo

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Oh G_d Mark Bright agrees with me, I give up.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

not saying much when compared to ninis xp

harsh red

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

That's a bullshit decision.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

loooooooooooool that is the softest red. poland are going to spank them.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

referees a homer

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

some bullshit. One game in and the refs already fucking up the tourney.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

Dude slipped over. No way.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking bullshit refereeing.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

lol thats handball

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

this is like south korea vs italy in the world cup

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Not a pen imo

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Never a pen come on AG

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

not a pen, but with the way it's been reffed it should be in this game.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Not deliberate, not careless, didn't prevent the ball falling to a goal scoring chance.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

AG bringing the outlandish claims

Number None, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

The ref has actually been lenient with the cards EXCEPT for the same guy he gave 2 bullshit decisions to.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

Which is bizarre.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

i cant believe those 2 yellows.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

No way does this ref get another game at the tourney hopefully.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah the tourney organisers will be fuming about the host nation being helped out of their group.

Oh look half time is England time on the BBC. Does this happen in other countries during matches their team isn't playing?

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure Poland needed much help tbh

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

welp picking sokratis pap for my fantasy team wasn't a great idea.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

not as far as i know xp to onimo

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

1-1!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

1-1

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

That was ridiculous.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

wtf did they play music when poland scored?

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Useless Arsenal goalkeeping strikes again

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

onimo you should know by now not to watch the halftime bullshit

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

poland deserve a kick up the arse for lack of ambition since they went one up.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

samaras should have taken that on his chest i think

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

chesny OFF PEN

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

lol

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

omgwtflol

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

great ref

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

He's been useless!

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

lol

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

was it offside tho

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

not his greatest performance

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

I knew it was a good idea to pick him for my FF team.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

lolska

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

SAVED!

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

yessss I love it

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Come on!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Proper keeper at last

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

shoulda been Sami tbh

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Good stuff goalie

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

What a crazy game!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Greek coach is magnificent

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Oh look half time is England time on the BBC. Does this happen in other countries during matches their team isn't playing?

Yep, I think pretty much every country in the world talks about England at half-time.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Still wanna see a replay of the thru ball that led to the pen to see if it was offside.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

textbook facepalm from greek coach after that pen

jabba hands, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

Now offside. Not sure about that

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

chopped off

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

on replay correct

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

This is some pretty clownish football.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

poland have been rubbish for the last hour

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

it's v entertaining. the greek keeper's flesh-coloured strip is a bit offputting though, i keep thinking he's a streaker.

jabba hands, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

Usually one expects the momentum to pass from one side to the other but both teams look like they're psyching themsleves out in equal measure.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

Danny Mills on BBC Radio 5 live:

"Wojciech Szczesny has had an absolute nightmare. He's had nothing to do, but his concentration has deserted him. What was he trying to achieve with that? He should have gone with his hands. The referee had no option but to give a penalty and send the goalkeeper off. Szczesny has had two things to do and he's done both badly.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

just checked the potential offside for the pen and it's really hard to tell (from the match angle anyway)

Number None, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

lovely pass there

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'd forgotten how much fun watching Samaras is.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Bright deriding Samaras

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

one player in the box?

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

weird mixture of olde style blood&thunder and desultory ineptitude about this match

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Bright "Russia and Czech Rep watching this with their feet up in a hotel somewhere." They kick off in an hour Mark, if they're still at the hotel chilling they're in trouble.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

lol chesney.

shit game, plenty of lols. b+ opener.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Greece did well after half-time but Poland bottled that.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

They'll not be in too much trouble judging by that game xps

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

Amazing the way Poland totally switched off right from the start of the second half, polar opposite of the way they started the first. Worst team talk ever.

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

It's a pity that ended even, from what I saw it's practically an invitation for Russia and the Czechs to go through the motions tonight and take their chances in the other two games.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'd wait to see how bad the Czech Republic are before writing off the other two, tbh.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

who does the second placer in this group play cos that might be an incentive to win

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Were Czech Rep in the same qualifying group as Scotland? If so I remember them being poor. Russia should be exciting Euro 2008 style.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

winners of group of
xp

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

The top two both go out in the quarters to two from the Germany/Dutch/Danes/Portugal group-of-death thing.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

group of death ie holland/portugal/germany
so playing the 2nd place team is no picnic either

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

xp

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

i have rudely dismissed denmark there. sorry daniel.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I quite like 'group of', in an 'end of' stylee

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

I could see Russia taking six points from two games which might mean, if Greece can grind a draw with the Czechs, they'd end up playing a second-string Russian side in the third match.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

If Greece win the whole fucking thing again, man...

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

golden generation

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

looking frwd to seeing Gebre Selassie at RB for Czechs tonight.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Jiracek looked useful in the few games he played for Wolfsburg last season too.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't realize that the Russian squad is basically Zenit and Dynamo.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

Are Spartak rubbish? And do Anzhi only buy expensive foreigners?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

Anzhi's squad is over 50% Russian by the looks of things.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Zhirkov is the only one who made the national squad tho

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

As if I don't get enough of Howard Webb during the regular season FFS

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

What about Rubin Kazan? It was only last year they were in the CL iirc. Russian footy is a riddle wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, to me.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

aw no its no howard webb is it?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

About 10 Russians in their squad but only one made the Euros. I'm clueless about how they're doing this season. Didn't the russian season just last a year and a half cos they're in the middle of switching when the league starts and finishes?

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

CSKA have five players in the squad, iirc, Dinamo have four.

Most of CSKA's midfielders and strikers are foreign, with the exception of Dzagoev, but their defence is pretty strongly Russian.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Teams in the wrong colours afaic

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Rubin weren't great last season xp

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

lovely football

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Davaaaaaiiiiiii!

The Russian Messi!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

would have been cooler if the header had gone in

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

wooooo ff points

russian schweini morelike

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

thank you dzagoev, good news for my FF team. was hoping akinfeev would play.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck, cut them open

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Czechs look ridic narrow.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

the fuck was that

my nan could put that on target

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

woeful finish

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that was disgraceful

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

flashes of samaras

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Way too easy.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Russia on dis ting.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

this could get embarrassing

nice chip still

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

cool finish tho

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Sad to see the Czechs getting beaten up like this.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

i put a pound on sherikov (40/1) and lewwy (18/1) today on the recommendations of various internet writers who know a lot more than i do. :D

(also went on my own hunch and went with italy each way winners.)

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Ech, I thought this was an eight o'clock kickoff, I need to get myself in order here.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

i would be as surprised if italy won this as i would be if england did ie extremely

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Now I see why Cech was such a bargain for my ff teams.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

IK having a nightmare so far. The tournament's too big for the lad, a step up.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

I mean kick off times are just basic stuff

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

I think I saw every minute of the world cup too, this might be a tournament too far for the old-timer.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

oof, should have been 3.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

Russia looking very nice though.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

Don't worry IK, Zidane had a nightmare start to 2006 WC and look how that ended.....well how it almost ended anyway.
xp

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

And just look at Rob Green in 2010

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

lol

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

fucking mexican wave

these fans are savages

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

nice finish

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Great goal

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

yay for that pass and finish! game on!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

love out-to-in runs from wide men

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Lovely. Now shut that fucking music off.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, grandpa

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

He's just miffed it's not "Song 2"

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

the most beautiful sound at a football game is the crowd cheering after a goal, and stupid cunts all over the world ruin it with tannoy shite. atmosphere in the stadium should be created by supporters.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

surely the most beautiful sound at a football game is "your shit aaaaaah" at goal kicks?

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

A robust audible 50:50, then collective intake of breath a quarter-second later.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

Terrible finish, but this has become excellent.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

beauty of a pass from arshavin

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

It's miles better than Poland/Greece

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

so many slices

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

have yet to see a decent long range strike in either game so far

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Kerzhakov's finishing is off

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

it's the jabulani.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

bufana bufana vuvuzela.

i seem to remember the free kicks in euro 2008 were pure shit.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

wtf that finish

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

finish as bad as the defending

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

kerzhakov is a big wet lettuce.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

kerzhaklolv

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Has there ever been a decent Russian striker?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Odemwingie.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

That really was a terrible shot

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Kerzhakov's actually pretty good, tbh. Had a great domestic season and works well within the structure of the team. His finishing has been awful, though. Pav or Pogrebnyak for the last twenty minutes would have finished them off.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

keeper got lucky there

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

good save tho

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

The Soviet sides, did they have any Inzaghi types? I remember them as all robotic fullbacks and cultured passing midfielders.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

oleg blokhin but he was a ukrainian

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Along with Portugal they don't do CFs

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

there you go

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Rah!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

dzagoev in the fantasy team, yas.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

that is not good defending

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Bang

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

the left side of the czech defence has been a disgrace

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

FFS! The digital box cut me off for recording two separate programmed just as that was happening. I've seen one goal out of six so far.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Pav!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Two from seven now.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

PAV BOOF!

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

oof

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Helluva goal

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

Harry sign him up

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

dzagoev will be going to real for 25m this summer now.

i <3 this side.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

he should probably play next game DICK

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

Arshavin is like Halley's Comet

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

hahahahaha

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

Pavlyuchenko, of all people, the impact sub

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

well excellent day one, 22 more like it please.

pandemic, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Pavlyuchenko and Arshavin look useful. I can see big Premier League clubs coming in for them.

This post brought to you from 2008.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

They play well for Russia. Maybe they don't travel well?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, 2008...

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Pavlyuchenko did an awful lot wrong at Spurs.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

EVERY time I see this thread I think it is about the euro monetary crisis. Then I remember...

Aimless, Friday, 8 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

In some ways, it actually is

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 8 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

had a wonderful time rooting for greece. a good first day.

ogmor, Friday, 8 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Pavlyuchenko did an awful lot wrong at Spurs.

― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, June 8, 2012 4:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amen, i love that dude.

mizzell, Friday, 8 June 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

Dos Santos, shit for Spurs great at international level

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 8 June 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

<3 Arshavin

windborne grey frogs (dowd), Friday, 8 June 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

dos santos just scored again for mexico.

mizzell, Saturday, 9 June 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

Wojciech Szczesny has had an absolute nightmare

He's no Artur Boruc, that's for sure. Czechs were rubbish in qualifying, so bad that Scotland would have finnished ahead of them if that cheatin' Czech hadn't dived in the 90th minute @ Hampden and Levein hadn't pioneered his novel 5-5-0 formation in Prague.

Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

Give the guy some credit, it was a much more attacking 4-6-0 (with the wide men coming back to cover as a 6-4-0 when we didn't have the ball, which was always).

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/9GHKU.gif

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

I enjoyed yesterday a lot more than I'd expected to - Poland v Greece was the most entertaining opening game in several years. Also lol Szczesny.

Russia looked great yesterday, I still love Pav, but it's pretty easy to see them absolutely storming through the group stages and running out of steam in time for the knockout stages.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

otm xp

boxall, Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah xp, Russia look a lot like Spain did before they started winning things. I reckon the mantle of 'greatest underachievers' is theirs now (that'd make a great tournament - it gets played in reverse, and Russia get the title by getting beaten by Mexico in the semis, who in turn lose the final to England on penalties)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

really psyched for denmark - holland. haven't seen that much of eriksen, curious to see how much impact he can have on this in all other aspects quite mediocre team

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Where are we streaming the Euros? I know this may have been covered up thread. All my usual sites aren't doing the business.

www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

I watch it on telly

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

that was a nice little bit on the 92 win by the beeb

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yes but where can I watch telly on the Internet?

www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

The BBC and ITV should be streaming it, no? If you're outside the UK you should be able to use a proxy server.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/sport/football.html

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

yah number none, that was good

poor old huntelaar, goal a game this season? On the bench son.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

It's a bit wrong that the group of should be played out in the two smallest stadiums

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

love story??dubstep???

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

exactly

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

I am in Los Angeles. How do I shot proxy server?

www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

does first row not work for you?

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

van bommel has the look of someone who'd knife you in an alley for the bus fare home

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

oh come on now fucking internet shit cunt bastard arse.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

dutch bench is a bit tasty

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

they have decent back up goalies

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Gregory van der Wiel - "the bad boy of dutch football...likes his rap music"

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

looks like the danish keeper will be passing the ball into his net before long.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

great pass rvp

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

I am in Los Angeles. How do I shot proxy server?

ESPN's streaming all matches at http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index (though you might not have access depending on your ISP)

Aglet, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't van der Wiel pull out of a Dutch away game so he could go to a Li'l Wayne gig though?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

really? excellent. greg van der weezy

denmark odds on to have a disaster at least once when trying to pass it out of defence.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

could have shot there?

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

excellent attack but what the hell are you doing robben

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Was a great interception, though.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

half missed that, was that robben refusing to use his right foot?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

go on daniel, kick his head off

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

robben's been great so far

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Wow!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

excellent!

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

It's been coming

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

swerve and nutmeg

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

nice goal!

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

erm i guess my stream is delayed.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

heitinga undressed there

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

nice goal that guy, didn't see it coming.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

wtf is this 7 nation army shit.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

Should only be reserved for when / if Italy score.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

"if" haha

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

Wasn't really a lucky strike, he's hitting full whack from about six yards. Keown being a bit harsh there.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

robben trying to cross =-o

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

poor old affelay

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

getting krohn-dehli in over eriksen pays off already!

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

erm why's van persie at left back.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

total football

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

Nice extended riff on Ukrainian CPI there

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

that was the worst pass I've ever seen

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

looks like the danish keeper will be passing the ball into his net before long.

― Merdeyeux, Saturday, June 9, 2012 4:10 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

this is starting to look very like a 0-1

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

showing robben down the line

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Mexican wave again fuck sake

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

was that a pass from van bommel?

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

taking it off each other's toes now

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

2 of them lining up there

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

denmark bossing this

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

get huntelaar on, rvp past it

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

spotted modric as ball boy in the backgroud of that replay,

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

De Subjectivisten's gone very quiet

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

are the bbc team just in the redecorated match of the day studio?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, they're not going out til the quarter finals. Cost-cutting

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

stick lineker in a dodgy hostel full of braying australians, give him the full visit to poland experience.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

harry laying into wenger there!

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

Has Shearer been relegated to pitch-side reporter for the entire tournament? Please tell me he has.

Gerrard on TV currently showing all the inspirational qualities of a condemned man.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

"i think we can get further than the public think we can get further"

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

poor old stevie seems so weary with it all

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

he's always like tbf

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

like that

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

De Subjectivisten's gone very quiet

lol i think our EURO thread came to a nice close with the Tiny Thais version of Rocky Road To Poland :)

Ludo, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

"Blister in the Sun?"?

F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

a brief trip into De Subjectivisten brought this wonder to my attention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eParXVjkPI

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Aargh. Only needed 1 ? US only.

F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

I'm loving the use of The Final Countdown here. Contemporary!

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

Nice to see 'Arry tapping up Seedorf there

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

"the crowd at the right hand side of the stadium are chanting the name of Russia, the crowd on the left side are chanting the name of Ukraine"

Commentary that effortlessly summarises the spirit of Ukraine.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

rvp having a 'mare

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

lol rvp

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

huntelaar unimpressed

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

jesus.

not sure eriksen has touched the ball yet

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

lol rvp. also i'm still miles behind everyone i think, plz wait 1 minute before posting responses.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

holland will win this 2-1 surely

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

just use a dial-up for ilx ffs merdey

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

yeah not really looking like a 0-1 anymore...

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

lol Afellay almost got brained again there

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

closer to a 0-2 amirite

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

terrible corner

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

brilliant HD slo-mo of RVP mishit

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

nice dis of bendtner there by j pierce

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

he's had several digs - he's decided Bendtner is his figure of fun for the match

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

not a bad choice i guess, bendtner's achieved nothing

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

The Dutch seem unwilling/unable to commit bodies into the box - just there RVP was wandering back from offside to the edge of the box, Sneijder was in space 25-30 yards out and had only a long square pass to Robben on.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

I am torn -- will I win, or my evil mirror universe self?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

ah van bommel don't ever change

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

Is rvp going to the left wing?

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

I love Simon Poulsen. I love how he's hardly been in the left-back position all match. I love how his entire game-plan is "run as far as you can". I love how he couldn't hit a decent cross if his life depended on it. And I love how those factors combined to set up the Danish goal.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

I am torn -- will I win, or my evil mirror universe self?

a 1-1 would make for a nice symmetry (and really help with my bet on Germany to win the group).

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

sorry missed the sub, who went off for holland?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Still no closer to knowing if Eriksen's all that

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

De Jong and Afellay

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

when dinks go wrong

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

great ball

affaley + de jong xp

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

thanks xp

jesus what a pass from sneijder

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

sneijder's been on it today tbf

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

indeed

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

man what a pass

cool flop by the goalkeeper too

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

news just in: Robben is a bit selfish

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

ooh hand up for offside whilst slipping whilst intercepting

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

The 2 CMs for Denmark have done a rubbish job screening the defence but they've been v good in possession.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

If the conditions are as energy sapping as the commentators think then England will be clapped out by 25 mins on Monday.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I thought sneijder was getting the hook there for a sec!!

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

BBC still talking disapprovingly about Holland's two defensive midfielders despite the fact that De Jong went off ages ago.

It's Dirk time!

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Redknapp said the Dutch would struggle to get out of this group :o

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Rommedahl's had a grand game, too. 34 and doing Willems for pace all the way.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Kjaer is seemingly great at international tournaments and useless the rest of time. Can't believe this is the same roma/wolfsburg player!

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

must have been years since kjaer was this good xp yeah

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

oooh that should have been a pen for holland right?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

oh definite pen there

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

no rule against handball in this tournament, should get interesting when players pick up on it.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

yup

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

Bye bye Holland

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

woah, nicely done denmark

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Shit game. Expecting a lot more from Germany v Portugal.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

It's not a penalty if your hand doesn't move towards the ball.

StanM, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Well done Denmark.

Worried that this result means Holland have to beat Germany :/

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

It's not that much of a shock

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't know St Totteringham was the patron saint of Holland until now.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Wtf why are they predicting portugal to turn over Denmark?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

they probably don't know that denmark handled them easily last time they played

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Wouldn't count on Huntelaar getting a lot of playtime though. Also because Holland won't survive the group stage tbh.

― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:19 (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Best player in Europe vs some not very good players?

xxxp

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Several of the best players in Europe just failed to turn over Denmark, this tournament could be a victory for dogged antifootball yet.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure germany is the game where you take a defensive midfielder out of the side 'arry

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

rio too good to be in the squad, nice to know.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Roy's left them speechless here

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Seedorf just completely blanked Lineker's request to detail his own personal history of inter-team racist abuse on national TV. Nicely done.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i lolled

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

Is hummels starting? He better be.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

All in the head, that game. Krohn-Dehli's not that great a player, Wigan-level perhaps, but he was so much more composed than the Dutch. They just seemed... it was like, one or two things started going against them, then their sense of injustice kicks in - constant gesticulation, yelling, sulking almost. Like they were waiting for the universe to even it up for them or something. Sneijder stayed classy all night, but Robben - god, he'd be such a great player if he wasn't such an utter bell-end.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Germany: Neuer, Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm, Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Ozil, Podolski, Gomez. Subs: Wiese, Gundogan, Schmelzer, Howedes, Schurrle, Klose, Bender, Mertesacker, Kroos, Gotze, Reus, Zieler.

Portugal: Rui Patricio, Joao Pereira, Bruno Alves, Pepe, Fabio Coentrao, Meireles, Veloso, Joao Moutinho, Nani, Postiga, Ronaldo. Subs: Eduardo, Custodio, Almeida, Quaresma, Nelson Oliveira, Ricardo Costa, Rolando, Ruben Micael, Varela, Miguel Lopes, Hugo Viana, Beto.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

Germany are going to destroy them

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Picked a bad night to go for a meal with my wife. I shall record this and attempt a Likely Lads score avoidance strategy.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

Is p much the Germany team I'd have said is their strongest.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

It's our anniversary and going out never entered my head

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

HaHA Cabaye on SSN refuses to answer questions in English cos he's on international duty. Sky dude looks crestfallen.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

It's my birthday tomorrow and I didn't want to miss those games. Tough choices.

xp

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Postiga is still going to be Portugal CF come France 2016 isn't he? Probably Quatar 2022 as well.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Could we do a Problem Positions XI? Lampard & Gerrard in the central midfield berths.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

I think LB would be 3/4 of the teams at the tournament.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

Several of the best players in Europe just failed to turn over Denmark, this tournament could be a victory for dogged antifootball yet.

i think Holland just looked bad out there today tbh, rvp and robben esp.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Denmark didn't really stop Holland playing, Holland just stopped Holland scoring.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

Wesley Sneijder created 10 goalscoring chances for #NED v #DEN - no player has created more in a Euro Finals game between 1980-2012.

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

and it was his birthday today!

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

Shearer's awfully jocular, I'm not sure how I feel about that

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

I know he actually looks excited to be there! what's going on?

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

Jake Humphrey just has that effect on people. Even Claridge would be laughing uncontrollably.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

I like how Jake Humphrey towers over him

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

I'm so looking forward to this

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Of all the players's faces you could zoom in on, why Mesut Ozil? He looks like Peter Lorre.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

loew's outfit for this tournament had better not be the simple white shirt thing.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

What would you like him to wear?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

Nonsense from the guardian match report

Denmark supplied the first shock of Euro 2012 with a convincing win over a surprisingly passive Holland, who will need to sort out their supply line to Robin van Persie if they are to have any chance against Portugal or Germany, let alone justify their billing among the favourites for the tournament.

Not that much wrong with the supply line if Sneijder creates 10 chances. He's just like Stewart Downing ;)

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

alan parsons project lol

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Hold on, Portugal also have a Rolando?!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

xps jeez i'm not his stylist.

ozil's also a bit marty feldman.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

portugal are full of simpsons jokes, pepsi and rolando. okay, two.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't wanted a team to win a tourney as much as I want Germany to win this since Brazil in '82.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

stay classy, germany

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

what's with all the trash being thrown?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

fucking German fans

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

What was it they were throwing? I just ate a meringue looked a bit like that.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

wait, three simpsons jokes. c'mon, ariaga ii.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal v Mexico kicked off some episode too iirc

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

ya ariaga ii was one of the hyped superstars in the pre-game ad.

o i see that there is is football happening.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Aw no, I thought that was going to be red

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

STFU LAWRO YOU FUN-KILLING PRICK

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

Lawro in typically bad temper. Fuck off!

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

laaaaame

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Assuming it's bailout business. They'll probably give Ireland/Greece/Spain the same if they run into them at any point.

"Nationalmannschaft" - not a phrase Guy Mowbray should really be trying to pronounce, then.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

he's such a dreary fuck

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know much about bruno alves but he looks like someone who could be capable of pepe-esque psychotic hyperviolence. could be interesting.

g d cheating germans, getting hurt when they get walloped on the leg.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

i hate lawro

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Neuer made a meal out of an appetizer on that tackel.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

or tackle, even

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

not much of a soccer watcher but imo if you're down for more than 3 seconds you should have to leave the field, because clearly you must be really hurt. that shit is pathetic

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

this is soccer love it or leave it

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

no shoulder pads needed here

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

That actually is the rule k3vin, frequently described as 'ridiculous' on British TV

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

I knew Neuer wasn't really hurt because they didn't use the magic spray on him.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

proper wing play from Ronaldo there

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

this is gonna be 1-0 win for portugal

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

heh i am a basketball fan and the flopping is starting to infect that sport too. it's just shitty to watch a grown man roll around in fake pain

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

That actually is the rule k3vin, frequently described as 'ridiculous' on British TV

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, June 9, 2012 3:02 PM (1 minute ago)

oh what is the rule exactly?

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Are Mowbray and Lawro just bringing out the worst in each other? They're really being quite insufferable tonight, maybe even more than usual.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Seeing them do it at the Olympics is when I feel ashamed to be human

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

statler and waldorf would be a more positive commentary pairing than mowbray and lawrenson.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

If you're down long enough for the physio to come on, you need to leave the pitch. British telly has never understood why.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

"gentle probing"

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

Heh heh, Statier and Waldorf! (who's that? I'm not getting any of your references these days)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

TV here just showed a man with a taxidermy squirrel in the crowd. Why the squirrel?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Great game earlier. Perhaps Bren should visit the Krohn-Delhi to add some meat to the LFC attack. (not a real suggestion)

This match is shit.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

I think Lawrenson's always this bad. It's like he thinks he's Terry Wogan at Eurovision.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah lawro/mowbray is the WORST (excepting alan green of course)

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

nice use of advantage there

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

xps the old heckler guys in the balcony seats in the muppets.

i will boldly post on in the face of incomprehension.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

to be fair, based on his champions league form Gomez with the ball in the box is not an advantage.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

I still don't get that New Orleans quip from the other day

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

ronaldo protecting the dental work

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

Not to mention Brick Lane-gate

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

anyone gonna score a good freekick in this tourney?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

no ball complaints yet

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Mowbray's really egging him on, though. It's not often I think I'd love to hear Graham Taylor commentating on this, but I really would. The cynicism here is numbing.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

new orleans quip wasn't really a quip, university obligations are preventing me from going to new orleans! (where there happens to be a philosophy conference on.)

maybe i can adopt a posting style of crystalline factual positivism.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

everyone knows who Statler and Waldorf are tbf

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

this is what reading derrida does to a man's ability to communicate, tbh.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

Did anyone mention shearer's tuft rip earlier? It's chatting up princess di in the china white's in heaven now.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

great chance

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

coming to a league near you next season...

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

I had an idea but it turned out I was thinking of Sacco and Vanzetti xp

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

are we gonna have a tournament with one non-shite arsenal player?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Scweinsteiger's played a couple of godawful passes in the last 5 mins

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

are we gonna have a tournament with one non-shite arsenal player?

― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, June 9, 2012 7:17 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

walcott hat-trick monday

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

mertesacker managing to not mess up while on the bench.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know if there's any way to sound more effortlessly xenophobic than referring to e.g. 'france' as 'the french'.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

pepe just kicked gomez in the nuts

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

"the frogs"

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Technically, Bendtner didn't miss any chances today.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Arshavin seems to be doing alrig...oh wait

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

pepe is v good. a psychopath, but awfully good.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

this game is shit so far :(

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

this is not v good.

xp yop.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty much sighing any time someone tries a shot now. Wonder if it's the heat that's affecting them. Lahm particularly seems to be sweating like a pig.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

great delayed fall from nani there. was a foul.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

oh. my. god.

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

ball don't lie

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

germany fans are enthusiastic in their disgust, certainly.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Touch of Charles Hawtrey about Ozil too, now I think of it.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

IN?

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

that must have been a stealth five-point exploding heart technique because nani took 5 strides before collapsing in utter agony

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

oh that was close

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

ooooh

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

on the line.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

ooooo

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

i appear to be slightly more in time with the rest of you now.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

portugal haven't been good to watch since they exchanged open warfare with holland that time

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

Hansen needs his hair tidying up at the back.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

hurrah here's hansen to bring some much-needed positivity.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

will they show zizouu throw up?

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

yes

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Yup.

England played better in that defeat to France than they have in any subsequent international tournament. Euro 2004 was a glorious time.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Well, that was a nice Euro 2012. When does the Tour de France start, exactly?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Alan Shearer really does think absolutely everything is fucking hilarious at the moment, doesn't he? It's extraordinary.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Only one point off 2nd place LBI.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

p sure shearer's on one.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like we're missing a decent Argentina - Brazil game

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

True Pandemic. Can't say I'm all that excited about Germany and Portugal though, fouls galore.

It is sad we had a team that can't score and have Van Persie who fails in the Orange jersey once again.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

ooh number none, don't tempt me

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Crap, should have got that across.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

lahm schooled

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

Hell of a sprint from Ronaldo to get to that ball.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

sneijder>>>>>>>>>ozil tonight.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Boateng not looking at all clever here. This is livening up.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Like to see reus come on.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Commentators repeatedly having their snarking undone by replays showing the exact opposite of what they've just harrumphed at is entertaining.

Reus would be a good option.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

messi only has 2 tonight so far btw

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

loew, still picking his nose after all these years

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

The old Germany would be just as perfunctory here but would be two-up

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

The old Germany would be rampaging across Poland and Ukraine

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Klose on tbf

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

mattheus would have had enough of this and smashed one in from 25 yards

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

lol ismael

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

that was awesome

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol how did meireles NOT do that on purpose?

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

yup
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

pow right in the kisser.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

did lawrenson just say the game was a minger? surely not

not really watching this, obv

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

he did.

Fizzles, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

in fact I came here just to check myself.

Fizzles, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

some interesting officiating in this game

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

"not the ref you want when the game's a minger"

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

oy vey

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

That was terrific control by ronaldo

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

haven't had a 'new cantona' for a while

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

This sort of acclaim for a callow portguese striker, it's not going to work out

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

how's his collar?

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

klose is not faster than gomez

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

unless gomez is carrying an injury

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

haa

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

full backs haven't got frwd for germany once all game

MARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

!!!!

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

damn.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Thank fuck for that.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Now Klose's been mentioned I can't envisage an outcome where he doesn't get the winner

Gomez, I knew it!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

ah too bad that wasn't Klose

Ludo, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

his kind of header though

Ludo, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Great header

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

typical Germans

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

lahm so far out of position there

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

simple, nice.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

awww so close

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

That was so good

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Honours
Club

Benfica

Portuguese League Cup: 2011–12

He is also being watched by barcalona and chelsea

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

I'm at a wedding and have Germany 2-0 in a four-way sweep of a tenner each with few mates. Suddenly it's on.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

gomez's hair straddles a very fine line between great and terrible.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I'd never get tired of it flopping about in the slow-mo of his header

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

good hair

looks like a dashing young ss obersturmbannführer who just sanctioned the burning of a village

good hair with bad connotations

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

meant it

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

nah

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

ikr nani, but still

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

obviously

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

gomez is v narrowly in the good hair phase just now i think, one centimetre more and he may be back in 90s US soap hunk mode.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Nani this last minute

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

ha close from nani
neuer must have some kind of spring loaded device in his gloves cos he doesn't punch the ball so much as merely put his hand in the air and it rebounds miles.

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Hummels, Agger, Kjaer - good day for centre-backs, this.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

xp lol, his goalkeeping seems rather weird today, yes.

I don't know what it is with Germans but Portugal seems like they could score and you just know they aren't going to

Ludo, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

germany are gonna have srs selection problems when ozil muller gotze and kroos are all at their peaks.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

"problems".

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Ah!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMG

PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

OHH

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

who has the more melifluous name, mesut uuuuuuuuuhtzil or toooohní khrooooooooooce

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

how do you leave that?!

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

ref is waste

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

woof nice one neuer.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

am i miles behind everyone again.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

neuer is good at 'making himself big' which is what happens when a large goalkeeper extends their arms

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Which way are the teams kicking?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

the PA guy is RAGING at this point

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo's new do is good too while we're on hair.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

wow great block

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

lol at Badstuber fist-pumping cos Varela's shot hit his arse

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

he changed it at half time i think xp

pandemic, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Really impressed with Portugal, I didn't think they'd be at the races tonight

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

finally i get some ultraviolence from alves.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

alves even has the ominous dry ice to signal his evil.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

This is still a v. interesting group. Oddly, I can see Holland getting summat out of Germany, and I think Denmark will struggle if Portugal defend like they did tonight.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

ozil muller gotze and kroos llp

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

It's 3 - 3 in the Argentina - Brazil game now

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Germany tore Holland apart in a recent friendly

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

nothing interesting is ever going to be said about germany or its people by someone starting 'the germans...'

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, April 9, 2012 1:29 PM (2 months ago)

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

The Germans tore the Dutch apart in a recent friendly

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

you don't have to rub it in twice!

(i can see a crazy 3-3 happening, but I don't think that'll help us much)

Ludo, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

Have now turned over to Arg-Brazil. Amazed by how clean their shirts are. Seriously, it's stunning.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

HOLY FUCK MESSI

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

AMAZING

Number None, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

ey u no furriners in here.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

Ffs five seconds too late

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

so... what did he do?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

Honest to God after that goal I may never be able to tolerate watching Thomas Muller ever again.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

xp - he ran and he ran and he ran and then he smashed it and it was amazing

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

ya that sounds like him.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

Ech, I'm not going to be able to find a repeat. Someone be a good lad & post highlights when they come up please.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHpK48Qrc0I

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

yerra good lad, ismael. what's with the thick stripes in that argentina kit, it's v off.

ffs i was supposed to have gone out 45 minutes ago.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

his 82nd of the season

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

do argentina have any other games before the season is officially over? let's have a game against st kitts and nevis or someone so he can reach the magic 100.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Scotland might still be in the US

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

:(.

(when registering for the uefa fantasy football, having to set my location as 'england' really brought some things home. i'm not in england i'm in london ffs, maybe 1/3 of the people i know are english.)

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

You should've just lied and picked Kerguelen or somewhere. You'd massively increase your chances in the national league that way to boot.

Anyway England's great and London's in England, and England are gonna be on dis ting, no need to get all weepy about it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

GolTV is showing a replay of Arg/Brazil at 3:30 Eastern time tomorrow fwiw

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Sunday, 10 June 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.gsoranje.nl/archives/images/neddenklungel.gif

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

we could have had a 100 strikers and for some reason none of them would have finished off that brilliant pass.

Ludo, Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

Also lol Szczesny.

And now LOL Van Persie too

Tom D (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 June 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

i fully expected poldolski to finish a couple of his chances, too. maybe not quite to lol category.

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

The England v France game will be about 75 minutes of Koscielny and Walcott falling over one another.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

re: gif mizzell posted - goalie deserves yellow for that overacting rolling around + grabbing his head job, imo.

StanM, Sunday, 10 June 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

How do the Dutch media react to such things?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Not good :)

It was just sub-par, a huge disappointment. What irks the press (and myself) even more is that Van Marwijk refuses to say it was bad. They are all holding up the "we played really good, but if you don't score..." story. Which is sticking your head in the sand imo.

Van Bommel was invisible. Heitinga and Vlaar seemed scared to build up properly which lead to Nigel de Jong constantly having to be a mailman (pick up the ball and bring it forward). Robben was shite, made the wrong decisions.
Van Persie getting the most flack though. The whole Huntelaar vs. Van Persie debate loomed over the tournament already before it started and only intensifies now. Playing with both of them has never really worked.

The only plusses were for Sneijder, who played a great second half, and Willems, who did a great job for an 18 year old and youngest Euro player ever.

I think Van Marwijk will stick to his guns though and will play Van Persie again. Not that it really matters who's our striker now, the whole team just is too weak.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

Ouch. I take it nobody's got much hope of a win over Germany? Because they looked beatable last night I thought.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

¡ Casillas; Arbeloa, Ramos, Pique, Alba; Alonso, Busquets; Silva, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas !

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

If we have so much trouble with a poor Denmark already, I don't think there's much to be optimistic about against a Germany with Ozil, Schweini, Muller, Podolski and Gomez. Germany weren't all that good though, so many errors. But they seem to actually *win* even when bad. That's a big difference with Holland.

But one never knows, maybe they'll surprise us (in 1988 Holland lost the first game against Russia and won the tournament). But somehow I can't see that happening this time.

There is a theoretic chance Holland can still progress even if they lose to Germany btw. Then Portugal has to win from Denmark, and in the last round Germany should beat Denmark and Holland should win from Portugal. Then Holland/Portugal/Denmark all have 3 points and it will come down to goal diff.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

Buffon; Bonucci, De Rossi, Chiellini; Maggio, Motta, Giaccherini, Pirlo, Marchisio; Cassano, Balotelli

I'm looking forward to this so much. Italy are going to do them.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

Fabregas False Nine!

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I was wondering how they'd get him in the side. He's no Messi but interesting how the Italy CBs cope with having no reference point.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

with de rossi at cb i'd guess not very well

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

Are Italy playing 3 at the back or trying to make Motta play LB? Or Chiellini at LB and De Rossi CB?

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

I predict Llorente'll be on before halftime

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

levein's tactical innovations make their way onto the big stage.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure it's 3 at the back for italy, bonucci,chiellini and de rossi playing as a cb regista like he's done for roma this season.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

Well I've repped for them playing a 3 since the Russia friendly. Maggio is twice the player as a wing-back then he is as a RB.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

they don't really have another wingback in that xi though. are they playing giaccherini on the other wing?

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

i think so

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

Giaccherini is a very skilful player as well, really interesting to see him in the XI. When I still thought they'd play a diamond I was hoping he might get to feature ahead of Montolivo at some point.

boxall, Sunday, 10 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

Don't think Italy will lose. Poor old Torres.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

De Rossi's one-sleeve look is a bit odd

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

The pitch looks poor to me.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

craig burley should shut his gub.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

hate burley

de rossi been p good so far

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

De Rossi a lucky boy if he didn't get booked there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

i like these italy kits

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

giacherrini's been really good too so far.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

Balotelli looks very accomplished in this side

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

and cassano has made the best runs

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

ooh gutsy by de rossi

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

thought fabregas? could have turned and shot there

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

poor from fabregas. couple of turnovers high up the pitch in spain's favour last couple of mins.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

they called a foul on balotelli there?

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

oof

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

if italy were playing 2 CBs one of those balls would have got thru by now i reckon.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

I'm finding those tunnels in the corners very distracting. I keep thinking the cameraman's put his finger into the frame.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

craig burley calling someone ugly? glass houses etc

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

i swear the spain corners are designed for the clearing header to fall to iniesta on the left corner of the box.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

alonso has benn average, at best.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

nice save casillas

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

loved that spontaneous 'ooh' for Balotelli

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

iniesta has been great

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

omg what a great goal that would've been after balotelli's backheel

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

casillas save looked much better in the replay, much less straight at him than it seemed to me in real time.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

This is my kind of game, I'm all tensed up here. Best avoid the punditry I think.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

iniesta and de rossi best 2 players so far.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

agh that mars bar ad.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

Jonathan Wilson ‏@jonawils
This is too much! A back three against a false nine?

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

haha

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

ha

always thought the conventional wisdom was a back 3 would struggle against a lone striker cos they would have 2 free men. today they have all 3 with no-one to mark!

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

Michael Cox ‏@Zonal_Marking
Well, this should be interesting. Do Italy have three spare men at the back, or none? Enjoy...

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

was strachan just subtitled there?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

That'd be some fast typing

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

was there a kick out off the ball from busquets there?

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

Loving this so far. And loving Italy, Spain's way of playing seems to be past the expiration date tbh.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

Sergi looks very comfortable higher up the pitch than he normally gets to play for club, I bet we'll see more of this in years to come.

boxall, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

nah, they just haven't got a frwd they rate. If villa was fit he'd be in.
xp

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

ooh, creating chances now.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

great slo-mo there

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

That's amazing reverse footage on that replay

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

dawdle

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Ridiculous from Balotelli

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

lol balotelli

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

o mario.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha what was that

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Balotelli! That was ridiculous. He just stopped moving.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

clueless

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

spent so much time looking at casillas forgot to shoot.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

iker hypnotised him

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

Esp. odd as he's so good at taking penalty shots decisively w/o overthinking.

boxall, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

di natale!!

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

thought mario has been p good actually. on comes the poacher.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

should be yellow

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

Ooh!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

pirlo di natale

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

yes

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

SEVEN NATION ARMY!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

poached!

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Gol!

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Boom.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

beautiful

boxall, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

such a good finish. Take note Robben

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

first time pirlo has ventured frwd and BANG!

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

Robin xp

boxall, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

beautiful

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

False nine ftw.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

lol

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

FANTASTIC

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

"pure class"

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

great game

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

luvly.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Nice

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

giovinco on!

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

I'm glad Spain have something about them, I want them dethroned properly, not going out with a whimper

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Zonal Marking suggested that silva maybe doesn't fit it the team and navas gives them more purpose,

Giovinco on *rubs hands*

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

ah great set up

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

oh nando

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Buffon did so weirdly well there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

maybe,maybe the ball thru could have done with more weight. but really..
not sure where that falls on the Klata Scale.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

ah great ball giovinco

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

keepers making good saves in non-keepery ways is a small private football pleasure of mine

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

His first touch looked so heavy, but only because I thought Buffon was too far out to start with. Everything looked wrong about that move basically. xp

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, yes, yes - but where is it on the scale?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

That one where Gregory Coupet heads onto his own crossbar is one of my favourite things xp

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe the weirdest thing about Torres is either around 1 or 2, or 8 or 9, on the Klata Scale, and almost never in between:

0 takes it early, rolls pitifully wide
1 poor touch, goalie gathers
2 dallies, defender gets back to make tackle
3 shoots low, like an idiot, into the goalkeeper's legs
4 blazes wide
5 good save by keeper, raises eyes heavenwards
6 as for 3, but somehow goes through goalie's legs
7 places beyond keeper's dive
8 little dink
9 takes it round the keeper, strokes home
10 round the keeper, blasts home from a yard, roars through the net
11 round the keeper, screws wide from unnecessarily tight angle, massive grin

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

a 1 maybe

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

I'll just consult my wallchart ... was a 1, followed by a 2. Guess those really are the wrong way round.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

almost the rare 11 from Nando

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

he'll run the full gamut before the end of this game

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

8?

boxall, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

why does de rossi have one long sleeve?

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

since they've had a CF Spain have created some clear cut chances. Unfortunately the CF is Torres.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, would've been perfect

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

That would have been some goal

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

i could do with this going to extra time

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

kinda unnerved nobody's calling this dull tbh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

clocks disappeared

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

That was great, I'd've loved another half-hour too.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

on the replay torres could have slipped that into navas on his last chance

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

that was a fun game.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

blimey that croatia team looks attacking, modric, perisic, mandzukic and jelavic

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

only playing 4 players a bit arrogant tho

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

on the replay torres could have slipped that into navas on his last chance

― pandemic, Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:57 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Could've? Should've!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

corluka and schildenfeld must be slowest cb pairing in the tournament

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

just as well they're up against keane/doyle really

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

Shame Kranjcar isn't playing. Did he have a fall-out with Bilic too, like Pranjic?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

don't tihnk so, reckon he'll be the first sub

mizzell, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

Come on Doyler

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Perisic will score tonight I reckon

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Hopefully

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, sounds like there are a 100,000 Irish fans in the stadium!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

no that's just darragh

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Yikes

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Oh dear...

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

weird goal

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Yes!

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

oh that was classy

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

Was that noise dmac shooting himself?

jabba hands, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

I think Jim Beglin just said "the Irish had the better of it up to kickoff".

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

have just been informed that italy/spain/ireland/croatia are the 'group of debt'

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

St Ledger!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

this whistle is pissing me off

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Beautiful delivery.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Corluka pretty feeble there

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

this whistle is pissing me off

― pandemic, Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:05 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was just coming here to post the same, extremely annoying

Great goal though!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

The phantom whistler just ruined that goal for me - I thought the ref had already blown for something and so it wouldn't count

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

me too

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

old habit for me - my mother always hushes us after goals in case they're offside.

so happy

gyac, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

if only there were vuvuzelas to drown out the whistles

Ludo, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

ireland actually having more possession than i thought they would

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

This has the air of an FA Cup classic, Ireland underdogging it like no-one's business. Vedran Corluka is actually going to start crying in a minute, isn't he?

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

I am enjoying this demonstration of HOW THEY CELEBRATE IN IRELAND.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Tydlesley is in such patronising full flow you wonder if he turned up in a comedy leprechaun's outfit.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Now, I know Peter Drury's not the most enthralling commentary box presence. But that's just rude.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

drury

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Why is Modric playing like a DM?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

have just been informed that italy/spain/ireland/croatia are the 'group of debt'
it would have been if Greece were in instead of Croatia.

Instead we're merely the Pope's favourites.

gyac, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

Is it Drury? I turned on late...

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

the ref hates corluka

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

srna's delivery has been crap so far. hit the first man at least 3 times.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

And again.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

uhm that looked like offside

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Came off an Irish defender.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah was offside. Was totally inevitable though.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

really? I'm not watching unfortunately but normally I think of Srna as one of the best crossers around. xps

boxall, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

he was offside when the ball was first played in and i'd say he gained advantage from it

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

He was offside when Modric(?) played it in though

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

not quite a defending masterclass, this game

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

wouldn't call that offside

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

he was offside when the ball was first played in and i'd say he gained advantage from it

― 'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:30 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He was offside when Modric(?) played it in though

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:31 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just interviewed the linesman who had to call that a week ago about the Euro's, he's from around here.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

croatia have been good last 20 mins, modric has moved further up the pitch

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

That aggressive high-fiving from the Croatian subs was a bit naff.

I think Tyldesley must be stationed in Ukraine - this is Drury's second commentary of the tournament. Clive's probably getting wheeled out for England with, for me, Andy Townsend, to be fair. Trying to think who ITV's fourth commentator will be - they've drafted in Jon Champion, but he was on earlier.

Will say this for them, though - the one thing BBC clearly have over them this tournament is the option to switch to 5 Live commentary on red button. And even then, you've still got a better-than average chance of Alan Green.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland clearly have one attacking tactic and one dour one, and we switched after equalising, for no sensible reason whatsoever.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think I've ever read an interview with a linesman before, sounds like Frost/Nixon

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

you'll need to do a follow-up on that one now LBI

Ludo, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ah no, it wasn't offside; I didn't realise there'd been about three Irish touches, I thought it was a straight deflection.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Is Chris Kamara in every advert nowadays?

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

his fees are probably quite reasonable.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Irish tv pointing to a v subtle foul on ward for the second goal. Maybe a case to be made.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

Amused by Robbie Keane berating the ref in the tunnel. Never change Robbie.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

given with the header

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

Lovely goal, except the comedy ending

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

mandzukic has played better tonight than i've ever seen him play in the bundesliga

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

This looks like a whipping in the making now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland need to cling on these next couple of mins

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

did drury just try to provide comfort by pointing out ireland got 3 against andorra?

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Cox and Walters on. Would have preferred to see McClean.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

ireland have decided to start playing again

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

cox close to seal-dribbling past the defender there

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

Clear penalty

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

modric

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Damien Duff is looking comfortably the best Ireland player on the pitch.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

niko time

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Loving St Ledger's continual "BE A MAN" gesticulating at Mandzukic.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

you'll need to do a follow-up on that one now LBI

― Ludo, Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:43 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I will, probably already next week ;)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

beautiful stuff

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Croatia look beautiful in this game but if Italy play as directly and physically as they did against Spain then they'll comfortably beat them. As will Spain.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah these CBs will struggle big time vs italy/spain. Think croatia will go all out vs italy next up. It'll be a cracker.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

I think I just saw Deems, dressed up as a Leprechaun... :-/

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

He isn't dressed up

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

lol

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

Spain are quite capable of not winning against Croatia imo, though I'd fancy them against Ireland

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Dunno, I've been surprised by how many opportunities ireland have created tonight. Croatia aren't that good i don't think.

pandemic, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Croatia aren't that good at the back.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

That's a pretty shitty way to lose. I thought Ireland did mostly okay, but there's not much point when you give away goals like that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

He isn't dressed up

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:27 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

Croatia are rubbish...

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Trap out

Number None, Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

So disappointed with how poorly we played. I could handle the defeat if I thought they played to their ability but few players came out of that with any credit. O'Shea, Duff and Keane were particularly poor.

Andrews was good.

Cox on for McGeady was inexplicable and had a negative effect.

We didn't even defend well. That said all three goals had elements of freakishness to them.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, we were shite but we were also hard done by. I'm assuming Trap just took McClean to the tournament to merk the lot of us

Number None, Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

They didn't look like they had the organisation to make anti-football work against the best passing sides or the players to really do anything else for long periods of a match. Duff looked the most composed but rarely saw much of the ball. Andrews can't be faulted for effort but just doesn't have the quality to do any real damage.

At this stage, i'm not sure what Trap would have to lose by just trying to fit McGeady and McClean in the same team and using pace to unsettle Italy and Spain. They're too ponderous at the moment to make long-ball football pay off.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

ROI weren't too great at the back, can't put much blame on Givens like everyone in the pub was doing though. Croatia had awesome attacking strength. Dickheads in the crowd once again almost ruining a game this tourno.

I'm watching Cheers, which features an Irish bartender named "Malone"

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

Iniesta unplayable according to Colin Murray

Number None, Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

Unplayable in what sense? thought he was brilliant tonight

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

unplayable means impossible to play/defend against.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

in the parlance of our times

Number None, Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh lol

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

i think you need to beat the game all the way through before you can unlock Iniesta and he finally becomes playable.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

even putting aside my hatred of the term, i don't think you can just dole out "unplayable" in a closely fought game like that. He was very good obviously

Number None, Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

“The pitch is a disaster,” said Fabregas. “It’s lamentable to play on a pitch like that. We deserved a lot more. It’s lamentable that we still have to play on pitches like that.”
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The Spanish insisted they had been assured the surface would be watered for more than an hour before kick-off, but questioned whether this had happened.
Although Spain eventually created enough chances to win the match, they only found a cutting edge when Torres was belatedly introduced.
Worryingly for the tournament favourites, Italy found a way to cut them open when they broke with speed, often catching the Spanish with too few defenders to cope with their attackers.
However, both Spain’s playmakers, Xavi and Andrés Iniesta, also rounded on groundstaff for failing to prepare a playing surface that suited their style of play.
“The fact they didn’t water the pitch compromised us and our dynamic and fluid passing game,” said Xavi, who could not get the better of opposite number, Andrea Pirlo, for long periods. Although it rained heavily in Gdansk on Saturday afternoon, Iniesta added: “To see the pitch in this condition was a disaster. It was super dry and that makes passing the ball difficult.”

Number None, Sunday, 10 June 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

Oh diddums for poor Spain

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Sunday, 10 June 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

hope st ledger tells them to be men

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 June 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

the pitch was crap tbf, and I think they play all 3 of their group games there so tough luck bros.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 09:17 (eleven years ago) link

Love Xavi obviously but every time he opens his mouth it is unintentionally hilarious at the moment.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 09:18 (eleven years ago) link

This fluid passing game sounds like something they should keep to themselves tbh

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 09:26 (eleven years ago) link

Spain really impressed me the way they stepped things up hugely after conceding. I've got so used to Barcelona refusing to deviate from the true path that I was expecting Spain to just carry on like they'd been doing, and lose. That said, I don't really know what changed - Torres brought huge (potential) benefits imo but it wasn't that I don't think, and Iniesta was superb but he'd been superb all game.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 09:29 (eleven years ago) link

I think Navas made a difference when he came on too.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/901623-euro-2012-tickets-on-sale-for-just-14-as-england-fans-avoid-ukraine

put off by the high cost of travel and accommodation /racial tensions and political unrest or just don't want to watch a bunch of incompetent thugs led by a weak as piss-water manager?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 11 June 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

true, the team's never been like that before

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:11 (eleven years ago) link

i recall the team's been favourites to win the tournament every single tournament up until now.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 11 June 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

Best fans in the world so long as they can combine it with a nice pleasant holiday.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

cost of accomodation/travel surely off-set by 59p a pint?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 11 June 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

wldn't piss-water be quite strong?

Ward Fowler, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link

I think there's probably a perception that getting around Ukraine would be a logistical nightmare, which isn't really true.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

people must have thought it was the UK by mistake.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

*insert your own terrible UK rain pun here*

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link

the reign of spain fell lamely in ukraine

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

“The pitch is a disaster,” said Fabregas. “It’s lamentable to play on a pitch like that. We deserved a lot more. It’s lamentable that we still have to play on pitches like that.”

My heart bleeds

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

the reign of spain fell lamely in ukraine

next-level

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

Ox to start. Makes things a little more interesting

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, one more Arsenal player to fall flat on his arse

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

Hart; Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Cole; Milner, Gerrard, Parker, Oxlade-Chamberlain; Young; Welbeck

It's Milner that raises eyebrows there, when did he last play in central midfield?

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

john terry is losing his influence on the team

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

Milner is playing right wing

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

Milner will be sitting deep somewhere near Parker, or France could overwhelm that midfield

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

So it's a 4-4-2 rather than a 4-3-3/4-5-1? With Young upfront?

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

That's what i reckon. I'm assuming Milner is there to protect Glen Johnson

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

Have to play Young upfront, gives him the chance to dive in more beneficial areas

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 June 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

The trouble with that midfield imo is that Gerrard and The Ox both like to wander; unless they're disciplined, Milner is going to be drawn across, exposing Johnson to Ribery. An alternative of England camping narrow and conceding the wings doesn't seem like a great idea with Benzema up front.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link

felt certain woy'd go with carroll to try and beast mexes and rami, mildly impressed though unconvinced

i didnt really watch the friendlies, was it flat four in midfield for those? conceding the wings (of what wings the french even have) seems much preferable to being overrun centrally imo

r|t|c, Monday, 11 June 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

in that Given pic, it looks like he's about to give a Rutger Hauer type speech about 'seeing things you people wouldn't believe'

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

«Calamity» James

haw-haw-haw

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Opinion on Torres divided in a pub yesterday between "useless cunt who misses chance after chance after chance" and "guy who turned the game by giving Spain a cutting edge and helped create a number of chances" - I was firmly in both camps.

Extended highlights of Brazil vs Argentina was the best thing I watched all day.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

that's a pretty attacking England line-up, i think Blanc's sledging might've gotten to Woy

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

Carra dissapointly not mentioning the exclusion of Carroll from the line-up.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

Carra's brilliantly positively English here. I expect him to nut Vieira in a bit.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

'arry should've done commentary on all Eng games. I, for one, am disappointed the arrangements could not be made.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

What's it going to be Britishers?

I filled in a 1-1 at half-time, 3-1 win for France.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

(so you know, that won't be it)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

england get their traditional opening goal early doors, then demoralising outplayed draw or 3-1 slump

r|t|c, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

a non-regular on the footy threads asks; how comes the England game isn't on the BBC?

piscesx, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

they take it in turns with ITV

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

at least until the quarter fi...no, i can't do that with a straight face

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

ah right, gotcha. 2nd daft question then; is there an ITV stream online?

piscesx, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

I want anything but a draw - I have separate bets that involve one of France/England winning the group.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

google "ITV Sports" they stream all the games they show i think

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

i fancy an exciting but technically hilarious 2-2 here btw

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

ah grand, thanks.

piscesx, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

itv.com has a shoddy player, i'd recommend looking for a stream. torn now, racist v nasri. why cant they both lose? nice for the ox i guess.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

do France really have no one better than Malouda?

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

if we come thru this tournament without at least 1 new animated gif of EBGRCJT falling on his face as he forlornly chases after a breaking opposition striker i will be fucking amazed

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

1-1. Not too confident with that prediction.

A lot of hilarity guaranteed.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Stoked for your sadness.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

nah, they don't care

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Who could blame them?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

"Agincourt, Waterloo and now Donetsk."

Hyperbole much?

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

fucking going nuts already at this coverage "Agincourt, Waterloo and now Donetsk"

EBJT, Parker and Hart belting out the anthem, everyone else mumbling away like proper footballers.

Ribery getting ready to kill some cunt.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

lol xp

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

power cut just ended here so i've missed the build up and as such am still feeling quite predisposed to Eng. After 5 mins of commentary i'll have reverted to wanting them to get caned 4 nil. Still 5 mins of being an England fan is the most i've managed for a couple of decades .

Reckon it'll be 0-0. Debuchy is p good i think.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

ten minutes in and nothing has happened

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Putting it mildly.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

It was like that at Agincourt too tbf

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

haha

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

ooh should have finished there

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

for goodness' sake

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Well that was...well, never mind.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Townsend: "I think he should score"

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

It was well-crafted, just fell to completely the wrong guy

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

We've got Ian Darke and Steve McManaman doing the commentary. I treat it as ambient sound with somewhat piercing tones.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Getting going a bit now - two attempts from France and a bad miss from Milner after some good play. We'll get a highlight reel out of this yet.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

Very good from t'Ox

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

England have played more football in 15 mins here than in the previous 180 mins under Roy.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

I'm holding out for at least 6 more mentions of "great feet"

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

this ITV commentary is so Alan Partridge; "i've liked this man since i first saw him.. good strength.. good body.. looks good in the shirt.. "

piscesx, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

following this via radio. sounds pretty dull, is this wrong?

sonderangerbot, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

oh no Ray Clemence is injured o_O

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

this is p exciting compared to a lot of Euro/World Cup England-opening-games i've seen in the last 15 years.

piscesx, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

Was just thinking how tyldsley reminds me of Partridge. Total lack of self awareness plus that forced nasal tone.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

With benzema playing so deep france may as well play him behind giroud instead of as a lone CF

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

Why do England play like completing passes isn't important?

Popture, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

At this train pace I should be home for 7. Think i'll miss anything?

Merdeyeux, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

relatively speaking this is a passing masterclass from england
xp

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

England look decent getting it forward, France look like they're running out of ideas a little. Wouldn't like to call this right now.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

great ball & header

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

set play team

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

false hope.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

In-ger-lund

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

good goal tho

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

well i lasted 30 mins. c'mon france

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

c'mon, you can start enjoying it now lads

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

tbh this reminds me most of England beating Germany at Euro 2004

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

2000

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

England already doing better than the Dutch there.

StanM, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

Tyldsley not so much tempting fate as standing naked on a mountain, covered in warpaint, challenging the cosmos to deny an England win.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

England get lucky.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

right backatcha

EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

beauty

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

that was coming - England getting deeper and deeper trying to protect the 1-0

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

england's keeper is a ponce

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

that was a good goal tho, on the header

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

He is a ponce though - very dodgy half from the best keeper in the world

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

going for a nap because im embarrassed about my provincial england-hating and close to apoplectic listening to some of this commentary. keep calm and get yersel tae fuck.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

also this is p boring.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

damn, since when does england have the best keeper in the world? i need to read more

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

England midfielders passing the ball to each other seems to have stopped completely since their goal.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

since next neversday xp

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

They don't really xp - it's just something I've noticed creeping into the media the last couple of months, like Buffon, Casillas et al just suddenly stopped existing

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

oh lol, okay -- sorry

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Buffon and Casillas have never won The Best League In The World iirc

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

whatever happened to robert green anyway?

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

that was...ok from England. pleased for Joleon. Hart is a wanker. think part of the problem is that with Gerrard and Parker screening the back 4, one of them needs to take the ball forward and link the forwards more. but i'm actually kind of impressed that Gerrard's had the discipline to play deeper.

technical shortcomings of the players as a whole v. much in evidence. France aren't all that. neither of these wd compete with the better teams in the tournament i don't think.

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

commentary = obnoxious. cunts singing "God Save the Queen" = obnoxious.

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

"he will be disappointed because he'll want to save that goal"

Viera making up for lost Townsend.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

Hart is the best England gk in many years and possibly world class but not best in the world.

England looked good for about 20mins but I assume that's it for the tournament now.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

Hart is the best England gk in many years and possibly world class but not best in the world.

otm

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

nah that seems fair but partly cos our goalkeeping standards have declined. unsighted or not you don't get beat on yr near post like that.

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

Not a greatly entertaining match so far tbh. Sloppy from both sides, France disappoint me.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

saw little of Gerrard in that half. whats his role in this setup exactly?

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Captain

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

England play a pretty good passing game when they're moving the ball through the midfield from the srtikers back to the defenders.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Mexican wave again :(

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

they bloody love a Mexican wave at this tournament

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

can I just say it's v weird to my ears to hear it called "mexican"

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

or, rather, weird to my eyes to see

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

started being called that (outside the US) after the Mexico World Cup in '86

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

England are playing well, in a kinda South Korea way.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Disappointed with France tbh. They're not very good.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Dullest, slowest game so far

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Both teams are well matched, neither look likely on this evidence to reach a semi-final.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Have Uefa got it in for England?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

making a substitution is an epic task in these Euros

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

Lovely strike from Cabaye

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

macca not even pretending any more, using "we" when analyzing england's play & upcoming games

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

there's a couple of hours I won't be getting back

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

what a horrible game for a neutral.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

lol just slept thru the second half

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Rooney with a side parting just looks...

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/05/18/1226058/120735-bill-hunter.jpg

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

macca not even pretending any more, using "we" when analyzing england's play & upcoming games

Did you seem him after the loss to Germany in the last WC?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

is the heat a factor? that was a dreadful game

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

england reflecting their manager hey clive? don't tempt me.

Chris, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Both sides looked pretty sluggish.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Whenever I see Rooney I think of

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/159/420656494_9e7df1a5d0.jpg

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

i think that was yr archetypal "two teams frightened to lose with limited resources at their disposal" match

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

man that was deadful

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

dreadful but made me feel dead

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

and yet still one of the better England tournament performances of the last decade :\

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

Most valuable fact I got from the Dutch commentary: Theo Walcott writes children's books and has published four already. Had no idea o_O

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

lol nv youre right

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

LBI i've took the piss out of the books Theo's "written" on one of the Prem threads in the past i think

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

I've seen 'em LBI. They're not great.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

tbf i thought the first half was good, the second was miserable. i think some combination of welbeck, ox, young, henderson, wilshere, cleverly etc could combine england's first nice passing move in 2014

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

lol

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

lol but true

'Last Moments Robot' Comforts You To Death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

sorry MW but anything I felt towards Macca at the end has been replaced by white-hot loathing of Alexi Lalas being argumentative with Ballack & Martinez when both were criticizing England's tactics

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

srsly i'd watch the half hour i missed on ITV+1 but i'm not that much of a masochist

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Dunno how England can be dissatisfied with that really, but I'd worry about the Ukraine game. Was a bit like a mediocre Premiership game.

Neither team is getting beyond the second round.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Well done woy: organised, but grim and unexciting.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

we've got "international" class players who can't trap a ball without it bouncing a yard off them tbf, options was limited

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

no lie tho, one of the better performances from Gerrard in an England jersey, at least until i fell asleep

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Neither team is getting beyond the second round.

But Roo is coming back! :-)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

duh duh
duh duh duh duh

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

Was a bit like a mediocre Premiership game

I dread to think what England-Sweden will look like

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, June 11, 2012 8:13 PM (7 minutes ago)

Kudos

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

that is a p bad display name

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine: Pyatov, Gusev, Mykhalyk, Khacheridi, Selin, Yarmolenko, Tymoschuk, Konoplianka, Nazarenko, Voronin, Shevchenko. Subs: Koval, Kucher, Garmash, Aliev, Shevchuk, Rakitskiy, Butko, Goryainov.

Sweden: Isaksson, Lustig, Mellberg, Granqvist, Martin Olsson, Elm, Kallstrom, Larsson, Ibrahimovic, Toivonen, Rosenberg. Subs: Wiland, Svensson, Jonas Olsson, Antonsson, Wernbloom, Safari, Holmen, Hansson.

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

voronin is so so bad, oleh blokhin is literally worse than radioactive swamps of pripyat

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

by white-hot loathing of Alexi Lalas being

Mind you, I don't mind Macca nor Ballack but my hatred of Lalas borders on irrational. His self-assessment and my assessment of him differ by miles and he never fails to be a smug dick about stuff esp when he's clearly wring or talking out his ass. At least Wynalda's kind of funny.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

no elmander no cred

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Elmander ain't fit yet, no?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

makes me sad to see a larsson on the team sheet but not THE Larsson.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

elmander has some minor problem

no guidetti but guidetti has a terrible accent and looks like a bloater so who knows

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Is Zlatan CF or #10 playmaker tonight? Or both?

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

#10 and supposedly it works better that way

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

that's what michael o

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

michael cox

says

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Hansen not convinced by zlatan. Thought it was all about medals Alan?

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

Shevchenko is a nice guy though

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone not convinced by Zlatan hasn't been paying attention to football outside England for a decade. Oh wait.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

In the fall of 2007, Ibrahimović, with the help of Nike, self-funded Zlatan Court in the streets of the city district Rosengård in his hometown Malmö: he provided a playing mat, goalposts, lighting, and a modern fence.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

are they playing 2010 era sixth form faves the xx

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

i think they are

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

wow Jonathan Pearce is talking a lot of bollocks, even by his bollocks-heavy standards

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

played the xx before the last game too. Might be a thing

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

OMG Love the Swedish Kit!

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

sashed kits are the best

peru, juventus away the other year, usa! usa! usa! the other year, some others icrc

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

river plate obv

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

city away

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

I had a lovely sashed Inter 1994 away and my wife ironed the collar off it :(

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

spain away for this tourney has half a sash

mizzell, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Shevchenko giving himself a breast massage there o_O

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

4 andriys for ukraine, 2 andreases for sweden

mizzell, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

yeah so does russia, it looks alright but obviously not as good as a full sash

konoplyanka/khacheridi probably the biggest size difference between adjoining players

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ooh yes, lovely shirt

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Blimey they're obsessed with calling Zlatan "enigmatic"

Looking frwd to seeing Yarmolenko.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Ahum. That's as camp as this thread needs to be I think.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't watch the senile cunts at the beginning, did an-sen and co say anything about any of the players other than ibrahimovic and the ones who have played in england

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

are they playing 2010 era sixth form faves the xx

played them before the poland greece match too

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

it is an intro like

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

heh

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

Rosenberg was rubbish for Werder Bremen last year.

no they didn't nakh
xxp

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

there seemed to be a fair bit of criticism at the last world cup when they were mocking lee dixon for having heard of marek hamsik

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

well, that was dreadful

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

saw Dixon being shouted down in one of the earlier games for trying to introduce some research

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

I don't like it when teams w the same color scheme play each other, not cool teams

lag∞n, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

well sweden and ukraine are kind of cousins from the vikings who sailed down the rivers and established the kievan rus' (iirc?) so they maybe can agree to disagree and call it a draw

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

that would be fair imho

lag∞n, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

this will always be thee sash for me...

http://www.ozwhitelufc.net.au/05-04-1986%20Portsmouth%20v%20LUFC_files/image040.jpg

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

eng-fra was first game my 3.5-yr-old son has ever watched. he said "i want to play". i knew what he meant.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

ha awesome

lag∞n, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

sounding like an old man but why can't the goalie catch that?

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

if his shot had been worse tap in at far post

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

I don't suppose there's any chance of them reducing this back down to eight teams?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

i wish; bar russia this group stage has been shitty balls

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

group of dearth

jabba hands, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

my apologies if anyone's watching this

sonderangerbot, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

lol i'm really enjoying this.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

"Was the ball wobbling there, the Tango ball, in the air?" I'm not sure any commentator so far has avoided discussing the ball, even if it's just to note there's not been any controversy about the ball.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Seems to building up a bit now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah this is fine compared to the england game xxp

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone remember Turkey valiantly winning like three games in a row in stoppage time? Amazing wasn't it?

First group games are usually shite, it'll be better when they all decide they have to win.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck! Should've scored

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

this game has been way better than the eng-fra game.

ibby!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

oh fuck off keown. he hit the post, it isn't like he is paul fucking dickov.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

teams with overall worse players more entertaining than teams w/ good players playing not to lose

"funny old game"

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

This will be Hamrén's speech at half-time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

This game isn't that good, you're all just overcompensating for the England game.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

otm

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

well i only saw the first 30 mins of eng so no

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Hold on, how come Shearer's in the studio?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

Did he get homesick?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

Nasri claiming to deliberately shoot at near post to confuse Hart. Lies.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

In fact it was actually worse than the England game which at least had two goals in the first 45. This had... not much for the first half hour.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Might pick up in the second 45 but I feel I should maybe do something other than watch football for a bit as I'm already getting a bit jaded.

FWIW Spain v Italy was the best game so far with probably the best two teams.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

safe to say sweden is the worst team in the tournament so far.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

Sp/It was the best game

Poland, Ireland, Czech Rep all worse imo

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Much being made of the rigidity of England's 4-4-2. I thought England looked more 4-2-3-1 than 4-4-2 with the ball, when they got decent possession. Nothing wrong with two 4s or even a 4-5 when you haven't got the ball imo. All about how quick you can change it when you get possession.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Beside Sp/It you'd expect Germany to play better.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

ibby on his worst day >>> croatia/roi

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

Spain/Italy was a good game. Poland/Greece was entertaining in its own way. Russia need to play somebody convincing so we can work out how good they are.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

onimo otm btw, for the first 45 it really wasn't a 4-4-2 at all

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

Bah!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

controversial lol

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Zlatan!

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

ibby! not a big match playa!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

If I'm the Ukraine manager I want this guy's leg to be broken if he's chosen to lie down rather than get up and fucking defend.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

please stop saying ibby

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

glorious

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Oh nice

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Shevy Gol

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

SHEVCHENKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Nice response from Ukraine

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

sheva! milano strikers 4eva

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Now that's been a good few minutes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

Even if he can't run, he's probably a better bet to score than Milevsky or Seleznyov.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal and Holland the only teams not to score. Still when you've only got RVP and Ronaldo it's to be expected really.

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Sheva and Ibra... what year is this?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

good tourney for headers so far

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

YES!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

otm

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

oof!

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

SHEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

OMG

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Crazy times now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Kiev might be a lot of fun tonight

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

"The great Ukrainian poet..."

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

<3 that kid's response to the goal

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

March of the Chelsea rejects.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

"The great Ukrainian poet..."

― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 21:07 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was p lol from robot wars

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

I love those glancing headers from beyond the front post. Second only to full stretch diving Henriks.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

<3 that kid's response to the goal

Yeah he was great.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

I kind of like the fact that Jonathan Pearce clearly makes the effort to flick through a Lonely Planet guide before overseas matches.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Celtic defender Lustig was shite on the near post for that goal :(

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

guy on the post really should have blocked that 2nd goal
xp

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

my son reckons Zlatan looks like the Guy Fawkes mask in V for Vendetta :)

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Haha!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

wow

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine were far too eager pressing there, they had five men beyond the Swedish back line for an instant. They want to calm down a little.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Liverpool were interested in him...but £13m for someone who has never been a prolific goalscorer.."
Erm...

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

Guy Fawkes mask versus
https://p.twimg.com/AvIn4EDCEAEp6oS.jpg

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that was disturbing

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

y'know Voronin has actually been pretty good tonight

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

yah
Wilhelmsson's been decent since he's come on also

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

fuuuuck

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Elmander, eh?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Oh what a move. useless finish

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

"Elmaaaaaandohgoodnessme!"

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

zlatan needs to be passing to himself

pandemic, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://a.yfrog.com/img716/562/w6r.png

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

So pleased.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Well that turned out really good. I'm glad (apologies to sonderangerbot)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

now in gif form

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa356/fugexlac/ukrainekid.gif

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Monday, 11 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

can easily see England managing the traditional 3 draw exit now

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-1reach.gif

zappi, Monday, 11 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

the brilliant late 90s lobanovskyi team and especially shevchenko were favourites when i was a kid

i thought he would work at chelsea and was quite disappointed by the way he faded out while van nistelrooy, inzaghi, raul have endured

so, very pleased to see him revivified tonight

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

we could be saying the same thing about Torres at the 2020 Euros

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

...in Ireland

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah

it would be nice if he could maybe rush ahead eight years and give us a preview

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

get a psychologist to help him envision, twp style, the fresh faced 36 year old torres as he nips ahead of serial capocannoniere john guidetti to score at the near post

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

May have teared up a bit at the shot of Voronin and Sheva hugging shortly before the end.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 11 June 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

@Joey7Barton - Buy a Daily Mail and read Mr Samuel, he's put u bac in y cage, can understand u slaggin henderson off if u were any better!

@paulwatson78 only idiots buy the daily mail. Samuel knows as much about football as I have forgotten during Sweden Ukraine 1st half.

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/60839000/jpg/_60839670_player.jpg

what does 'possession' mean such that these two managed to get a total of ~77~ seconds between them?

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe this has already been mentioned, and we are getting ahead of ourselves here, but if England and France (say) end up with identical records in this group, it comes down to the UEFA National Coefficients Table, and this seems to be the latest one:

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/01/69/56/52/1695652_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

So England would get third?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

HAHA

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

I see what you've done there.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

"Agincourt, Waterloo and now Donetsk."

Uhhhhhhh, so that was England v. France at Waterloo was it? Don't know for sure, but I imagine there were also Scots at Agincourt... fighting for France.

I'm with (Big) Patrick (Vieira) in expressing astonishment that anyone would think this French side are anything special - they've got Florent Malouda in the side for a start - they look like a bunch of lightweights to me.

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

'i thought he would work at Chelsea and was quite disappointed by the way he faded out'

eh, I said this a year ago and you said'beginning to slow and not so much of a thread outside the box ... an overripe vanity purchase for abramovich.'

boxall, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

Well that turned out really good. I'm glad (apologies to sonderangerbot)

― Ismael Klata, den 11 juni 2012 22:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no worries, i'm happy for sheva too tbh. our defending on set pieces has been a joke for a long time and he did well to pick up on that. it's just that leading up to the euros there's been all this talk of a new confidence and a more attack-minded approach etc, and even if i knew this was all nonsense, i was at least hoping for little more than a sub-lagerbäck performance.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

did you watch shevchenko in 05/06? he had become an rvn/inzaghi type of player, a lethal finisher (scored 4 vs galatasaray iirc) but was beginning to slow and not so much of a threat outside the box....rvn moved in the right direction that summer, sheva made an overripe vanity purchase for abramovich

― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:15 PM (10 months ago)

there isn't a contradiction, £30m was an awful lot of money for a 30 year old forward with injury problems but he nonetheless ought to have been capable of scoring 15 epl goals a season for two or three years

he suddenly lost his lethal finishing which was quite inexplicable, and it was even worse when he moved back to milan

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

him moving back to milan was the saddest part of it all, had forgotten about that.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

no goals in 18 serie a games

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

what are sweden going to do now btw? they need to do something, anyway

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

They need to beat England

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Wee Gordon saying it took him two years to work out Sami's best position - and still he gets it wrong.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

Greece: Chalkias, Torosidis, Kyriakos Papadopoulos, Katsouranis, Holebas, Fotakis, Maniatis, Karagounis, Salpingidis, Samaras, Fortounis. Subs: Tzorvas, Tzavelas, Malezas, Makos, Liberopoulos, Mitroglou, Gekas, Ninis, Fetfatzidis, Sifakis.

Czech Republic: Cech, Gebre Selassie, Sivok, Kadlec, Limbersky, Hubschman, Plasil, Jiracek, Rosicky, Pilar, Baros. Subs: Lastuvka, Suchy, Hubnik, Necid, Rezek, Petrzela, Rajtoral, Kolar, Pekhart, Lafata, Darida, Drobny.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

who should be subbed out first for ninis/fetfatzidis? samaras?

ogmor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing wrong with supporting your country but we now have ITV showing footage of Zlatan having his thigh strapped and saying "let's hope that's worse than it looks."

Fuck these clowns.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

Obviously Salpingidis gets the start after Friday. Fortounis showed the odd evidence of ability last season for kaiserslautern tho it was hard to tell cos 'lautern were so wretched.

czech rep playing the DM Hubschman that they didn't bother with against Russia? I'd have thought he would have been more necessary in that game than this.

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Stay classy ITV.
xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

They looked better once he came on though, iirc. xp

boxall, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

who should be subbed out first for ninis/fetfatzidis? samaras?

Depends how it's going - they may move Samaras out wide when it goes wrong rather than sub him off. He's never really a goal threat but on his game things kind of happen around him - that's why I disagree with Strachan, I'd never have him as the point man in attack (unless I was looking for a boring "Rangers away in Europe in 2008" type performance where I didn't necessarily want to score).

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

samaras is going to have to take care of gebre-selassie too, but hardly feel he is the man to pin him back

ogmor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

lovely

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Why do people keep giving work to Craig Burley?

Goal! Time for that sub.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

well boxall he just proved you right

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

slaughter

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

uh oh

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

rip

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

|Do Greece not bother with the first 15 mins of games?

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

"deficit reduction" omg fuck off itv

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

surprised champion/burley haven't given us "greeks bearing gifts" yet?

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

that LB area has been a horror zone for Greece so far this tourney.

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

There are fears of trouble during the march, given the historic rivalry between the two countries.

is it me or is "rivalry" not the best word to describe the historical relationship between Poland and Russia?

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

"Wouldn't you know it would 2-0 to the Checks over the Debtors."

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

and "bouncing checks"

new low for ITV really

PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

skinned the ref.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Ha ha, took out the ref!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

rosicky unimpressed

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

pretty amazing twitter coverage of budding riot between russian and polish fans here:

https://twitter.com/#!/JamieTreckerFOX

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

here too https://twitter.com/#!/BKBlick

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah told you it wouldnt end well
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18409776

Clashes have broken out in the Polish capital Warsaw as rival Russian and Polish football fans gather for a Euro 2012 match between the two teams.

Thousands of Russian fans staged a march to mark their national day and missiles were thrown.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

greece will waste the rest of this half while they stick w/ this myopic heavy-footed charging

ogmor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/12/euro-2012-antonio-cassano-gays

"Queers in the national team? That's their business. But I hope not."

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Ech, my dad's off to Warsaw on Friday for Russia's next game

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

Burley talking about someone's left arm being offside. Total fucking idiot.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Burley "if any part of your body that can score a goal is offside then your'e off..certainly his left arm was so technically he's off"

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

lol xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

It just struck me that Craig Burley was the last Scotsman to score in a major tournament finals.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

Unless you count that Superbowl guy.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

the last 'king ____ of scotland

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

i used to confuse paul lambert and craig burley back in the day

amirite p damn easy to confuse craig burley amirite heh

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

Not much chance of McGeady taking his crown now sadly

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

there was never a chance in fairness

Number None, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

comedy goalie

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

where was this against bayern you fuck?

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

shocker

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Cech yrself before you wreck yrself

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

where was this against bayern you fuck?

otm

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

nothing better than cech making an arse of things

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

Slo-mo makes it look like he flinches in anticipation of clanging into the defender

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

Samaras

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

vintage sami

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

tottenham wonderkid pekhart arrives

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

some of the greek crossing in the last 10 mins has been excellent

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

looking forward to this

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

russian anthem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> polish anthem

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

It's nice to have an unfamiliar vicious blood rivalry to enjoy. The Russian team could do with looking a bit more evil though - a few Ivan Drago types would be useful. Awesome huge Russian flag during the anthems though.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

poland v russia w/ german ref huh...

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

malafeev, the evil akinfeev

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

this fuckin' commentator

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

Former Republic of Ireland manager Mick McCarthy in Warsaw:

"They want to do well for themselves as footballers and there's all this about the two nations against each other as well. It adds more pressure, certainly for the home players."

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

wolfgang stark, the bane of many a bundeslida FM10 campaign for me. Btw his last Bundesliga match resulted in Kobiashvili gettting a ban thru to Jan 2013 for hitting him after the match.

xxp re german ref

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

mick mccarthy must outstrip steve bittuhly bittuhly disapppointed bruce as the least intelligent longtime epl manager

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

can't believe the size of that banner

https://p.twimg.com/AvNd5IMCEAA9tCq.jpg

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

this has been good stuff so far

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

drury seems to think lewandowski->manu is a foregone conclusion?

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

can't see dortmund selling 2 of the best 5 players in the same close season myself.

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Why was "THIS IS RUSSIA" in English?

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

i take it they're not singing "sacked in the morning"? Unless it's the russians singing about actually sacking the city?

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

cloooose

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

nice play

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp, so the Poles can read it too.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Lewandowski to Utd was ever really a thing

Number None, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Kicking a man in the face, in the box, as he heads the ball: penalty?

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

pelanty imo

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

pretty unstoppable that

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Dzagoev owning this tournament.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

great run

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

thought malafeev had dived under that for a sec

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

what's that for???

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Alex In NYC to thread.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

aw fabio and patrick

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

pas an inch off

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

is he on the Russian bench?

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

lol

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

BOOM!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

nice finish!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

KUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

What a thirty seconds!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

beauty!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

What a shot!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

oh yes!

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

better sub in pasaninchoff

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

why have the Beeb shown so few matches so far? apart from them being a fucking disgrace, obv

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

"for president and peasant" ugh

Number None, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Man that was something.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

That replay from behind the shooter, so beautiful.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Better pass from Arshavin at the other end and that doesn't happen.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

polska polska polksa polska

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

this is a great game !

ogmor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

i was just shaking my head cos when the russian attack broke down there were 3 polish players within 2 metres of each other on the right wing just standing there. Then they broke and BOOM.

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

What a fantastic goal that was

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Well done there ref

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Game of the tournament so far and still half an hour left. Goodness me.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

why have the Beeb shown so few matches so far? apart from them being a fucking disgrace, obv

Maybe holding back for the more meaningful games. They've got half of the remaining group games.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Both semi-finals too

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

it's weird, they've shown 2 of the last 6 and they're only showing 1 a day for the rest of the week. i thought semis were open to both sides if they wanted

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

There hasn't been a clean sheet in an ITV game yet.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

14 June: Italy v Croatia (BBC), Spain v Republic of Ireland (ITV)

15 June: Ukraine v France (ITV), Sweden v England (BBC)

16 June: Greece v Russia (BBC), Poland v Czech Republic (BBC)

4 out of 6 in three days

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

a lot of shit defending so far, obviously it's not just the EPL that's forgotten how

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

don't really understand how non-USA ESPN works, but over here they're showing every game

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

those 2 games on the 16th must kick off at the same time surely?

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

yes - they've got four final group games, same as ITV.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

almost great

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

ok i get it one on BBC1 and one on BBC3

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

ooh Polanski nearly raked them then

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

The last couple of minutes have been great

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

For some reason the sight of Szczeszny in a suit just me burst out laughing.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure he deserves to get back in the team.

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

i wdn't put him back in

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

he is an eejit tbf

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Tyton doesn't really deserve to be dropped

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Is Boenisch an ethnic German?

Tyton is fine. Why ruin a good streak?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

He was born in Poland but he played his youth football in Germany i think.

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

boenisch played for the german youth team. i think he kind of reluctantly switched to representing poland.
xp

mizzell, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

same with polanski

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

This Polish side are just such awesome fun, and Lewandowski's a magnificent flag-bearer. He's been outnumbered all night and never shirked anything. Really liking the look of him.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Arshavin looks totally done.

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

how often did he last 90mins for arsenal?

pandemic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

3 static Russian forwards in the box then, waste

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

He's on the verge of dry-heave here. Oyy.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Terrific game

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Poland showing up the real measure of England's performance y/day

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

That was an absolute belter.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, very entertaining game

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Pleased at that result. Means Russia will have to make an effort against Greece.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Poland/Czechs cd be a total stormer

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

as with almost all this tournament so far I only caught about half of that but it was great, stoked if they both end up going through

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

they are certainly the best two teams in the group

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

I hope they both do go through, though I'm not too confident of Poland actually winning a game after the first debacle.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Echoing all that about it being a great game. Everything felt much more sparked up than before.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Holland-Germany tomorrow

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

didn't think it was that good cuz russia didn't really funtion properly, zhirkov was contained by piszcczek/kuba and without him and to a lesser extent anyukov widening the defence arshavin and dzagoev had less space

kerzhakov is a clever player but he doesn't really have great acceleration or skill

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

ffs Chiles

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

russia are playing chic early 00s formation 'the xmas tree formation'

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

Agree want them both through (the one thing that could've made that better would've been if it'd been a knock-out stages tie, cos then the ending would've been menk), but at the same time I would find it sort of funny if Greece did Russia. Particularly if Samaras scored.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Thinking things could get kinda nasty if Russia win this tournament.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

nasty is relative compared to the golden age of Soviet oppression, obv

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

The final's in Ukraine at least, I don't think Russia's hated there even in the west. The team is highly likeable too, I feel that should make a difference.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

lol klassic klata

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

has dzagoev done anything arshavin-the-meme-esque yet to garner a thread before he is named player of the tournament and goes to real or psg

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

lot of ukrainan ppl who v much dislike russia

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

dzagoev will go to chelsea

Number None, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

marko marin will cry. again.

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link

his hubris knows no bounds
http://i.imgur.com/X7ImD.jpg

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link

he really is having an identity crisis

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

He looks like he should be on drums for Morrissey

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

poor guy can't pull of any look ever but that's a particularly bad choice.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

Well he's not going to shave the transplanted bit of hair off is he? That would just be silly.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

poor guy can't pull of any look ever

maybe he should try something along the lines of

http://i.tinysrc.mobi/550/http://static.sched.org/c/austin2011/97373ddfab0f965a075d66fe03d34064.jpg

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

working towards this imo
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CynrWLe6mQQ/0.jpg

a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

really want him to try a forlan/totti style mop

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

twp looks a bit like some of the ppl w/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromegaly

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromegaly

The glinting eyes of the hereditary syphilitic (also syphilitic in his own right), the illiterate day-laborer’s jaws, the rachitic acromegalic face already filled the pages of Italia Illustrata

as carlo gadda described alberto aquilani's favourite train timetable reformer

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

Did the paperbag guy donate his unwanted cuttings to the man on that acromegaly page?

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

rachitic acromegalic

I hear Chelsea are interested in this guy

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

ivan rakitić is an excellent player but i don't see him at chelsea

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

Noticing that in commentaries on matches involving Greece, the usual Greek mythological references trotted out by commentators are in danger of being superseded by Euro crisis ones

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe they are just giving you a minor tour of the greece's economic labyrinth?

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

twp seems notably less hateful these days, almost subdued, compared to terry he might as well be raoul wallenberg

i suppose you could cast aspersions on his open infelidities with whores, but then the unconscious implication that his bling-draped wife is no different is bitterly amusing

it's hardly his fault english hacks build him up as something beyond his actual talents

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

it's hardly his fault english hacks build him up as something beyond his actual talents

This applies to the entire England squad tho

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but twp seems notably less hubristic about it than the others

even when he had to be shoved out wide to accomodate ronaldo, he seemed to realize that that was a fair reflection on their relative talents

he doesn't seem as deluded as the rest of the golden generation, i don't remember him saying anything nearly as risible as gerrard claiming joe cole is better than messi

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

Wesley Sneijder has hit out at the "pathetic egos" inside the Holland squad as they prepare to face Germany on Wednesday night. The Dutch lost their opening game against Denmark and desperately need a result against one of the pre-tournament favourites if they are not to face an early exit.

But, as has happened so often in the past with the Dutch team, their preparations for an important game has been disrupted by disharmony in the squad and Sneijder has now voiced his displeasure with the situation. "It is time we let go of these pathetic egos," he said. "If somebody is creating a mess [within the squad], I will stand up against them.

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

thankfully wes 'give me £250k a week and a private plane' sneijder is there to sort out all of the egos

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

So the usually best informed journalists think Holland will play Kuyt instead of Afellay and see Matthijsen return at the back. The latter is obvious, but Kuyt... The logic would be that he can stop off Lahm better than Afellay. Which is true, but we also lose any creativity we had on the right wing. And no Huntelaar... Ffs.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

i guess it's a case of "can't afford to lose, can maybe afford to draw"

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

just don't let robben take any penalties

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

NV, sad but true. While it should be "we want to fucking win".

Depends though, if Denmark draw with Portugal, Holland need a win.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

No Huntelaar? Are they gek?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

PORTUGAL: Rui Patricio; Joao Pereira, Bruno Alves, Pepe, Fabio Coentrao; Miguel Veloso, Joao Moutinho, Raul Meireles; Nani, Helder Postiga, Cristiano Ronaldo

DENMARK: Andersen; Jacobsen, Kjaer, Agger, S. Poulsen; Kvist, Zimling, Rommedahl, Eriksen, Krohn-Dehli; Bendtner

I feel like this portugal side should be really solid through the middle and exciting on the wings, but then there's helder postiga.

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

I always liked Hugo Almeida at Werder Bremen and it appears he's been scoring for Besiktas as well, they should give him a shot.

Read yesterday that the Oranje were using Kuyt at RB in training, as I believe was proposed for Liverpool in the past, with RVP left and KJH up top. But I'll trust LBI's sources.

boxall, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Zimling has started well too. Shame he's had to go off.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

zimling was one of their best players vs Holland too, not good

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

ugh

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Pepe 1-0

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

nani looked like he was crying there?

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Quite a bit of palming-in this tournament

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

glad to see pepe recover so quickly from blowing out his achilles

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

fuck off could the goalie have done better townsend. He had no fucking chance!

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Glad you're glad xp

boxall, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

a miraculous recovery to be sure. Just call him lazu
xprus.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

er lazurus. Tho lazu sounds like the missing frwd link for portugal by way of brazil

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

Tho Lazu = Danish left-back of Basque descent

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

so cynical

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

How the hell wasn't that a red card?

StanM, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

what'd he do? Missed it

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

great goal

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Fantastic.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

ah well RIP denmark

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

great striker, i've always said so

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

finish!

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

Meireles handball on ball over the top about 10 yards inside his own half. He had to jump to reach it to make the handball.

xp to number none

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

postiga making me eat my words

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, what's the ideal result tonight to set up the last round? Dutch win would make Holland-Portugal pretty tasty.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

thanks pandemic. was he preventing a goal scoring opportunity though?

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

long way out to be a clear goal scoring opportunity

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

well if holland win they've all got 3 pts. But I want Germany to win so that's my ideal result.

not clear cut tho the danish player probably would have got on the end of it, whether he would have controlled and shot before a covering defender got back is hard to say
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

beauty

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

that was awesome

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

Very nicely worked. He always scores.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

wonderfully done denmark!

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

love that goal
maligned strikers on fire

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Hahah this match is turning out great! One more goal before the half?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

sweet goal that. bendtner of all people!

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

has now scored in 5 out of 6 against portugal, so

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

that's bullshit stopping the game after portugal have had their attack imo

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Haw haw, that cross positively dribbled across Postiga's patch, six yards out.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

they could've kicked it out if they wanted too
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

5 in 5 according to opta even. but also he is shit, so xp

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

"We've yet to see a dull game in this tournament..."

Oh yeah?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

No Huntelaar? Are they gek?

― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Van Marwijk seems to be, yes.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

Read yesterday that the Oranje were using Kuyt at RB in training, as I believe was proposed for Liverpool in the past, with RVP left and KJH up top. But I'll trust LBI's sources.

― boxall, Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:14 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hope I'm wrong though

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

Interesting match so far. Hate Pepe with a passion though. Well, hate nearly all of Portugal.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

Nani's been good so far

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

£3 billion!! Fucking Hell.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Er sorry that was prem lge related and as such shouldn't be defiling this thread.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

http://i47.tinypic.com/15rh7wo.jpg

"It's ok, dear Pandemic"

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

lame finish

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

xp
she was in no way lame

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

oof

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

bendtner has made 3 great cross field passes

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

that pass left-to-right is always on 'cos ronaldo doesn't have to track back.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

goodness me, she is pretty

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

meireles should shade to that side more
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

bendtner has made 3 great cross field passes

― mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:22 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's had a v good game. and he's always been able to do these things, his game would be a p good allrounder if he didn't fall asleep/act a dick 80% of the time.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

excellent first touch by him there. Not so great finish.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

ha ha, Messi chants

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

otm hehe

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

even worse!!!

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

Lol Christaino Ornaldo fail

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

LOL!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

(Afellay is playing btw, no Kuyt, no Hunter....)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

ESPN commentator: "Did his brother get on the team?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

just dreadful

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

that was really rubbish

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

The replays are beautiful. "Oh....FUCK."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Omg!

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Haha!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Beauty!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Why I'll be... 2-2!

StanM, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Paddy Power?!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Yes!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

bendy!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo can't finish won't track back.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

Really well done by the big Dane

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, brilliant header

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

lol pepe was rubbish there

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure ronaldo can finish

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Did he have sponsored pants?! I looked away immediately.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

yeah what did it say down there?

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

if bendtner goes on to be top goalscorer, his fee might buy us a classy new player this summer instead of just some new boots for rvp.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

not for the first 80 mins tonight he can't. Still time mind you.
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

if bendtner goes on to be top goalscorer, his fee might buy us a classy new player this summer instead of just some new boots for rvp.

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:40 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

never hear the end of it from barry glendenning either

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

This means Holland have to win tonight btw, or a Ger-Den draw sends them out.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

they always "have to" win against Germany though

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

still think portugal will sneak this

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Otm

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

lol correct

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

And there you go.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

wtf

StanM, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Varela!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

oh shiii

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know what it is but I haven't enjoyed the opening stages of one of these tournaments like this for like ever

StanM, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

How do you follow up that with that?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

lucky his first attempt was so rancid really

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

cronny looks heartbroken for some reason

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

The mythical Rolando!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

defender making himself skinny good job there

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

looked like he was going to cry

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

bendy hat-trick would be nice

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

so still must win for Netherlands later this evening?

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo looks cursed

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

Not so schone

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

cron looks so depressed

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Right. Time for another glorious Dutch victory. Ready? (ok sorry, I'm belgian and the Dutch losing is top entertainment for us)

StanM, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Who thinks Ger vs Ned will be this entertaining?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Not quite so 'must win', they can draw tonight and still most likely qualify by beating Portugal. xps

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

so if the Dutch win by 1 goal everyone would have same points & GD?

zappi, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

So they would. 3-2 win for identical records.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

Right. Beating Portugal is a piece of cake for the Dutch. NOT!!! Portugal have "frustrated" them before, and they will do it again.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

rob green wanting to get in on the shittest hair competition too

Chris, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

Robben having a moment there

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

tough school you went to jonathon if the detention room had no air in it.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

According to Steve McClaren, "Germany are all efficiency* and Holland are all flair".

*When not apologising about the war and having functional sex with their hausfraus, presumably.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

de jong and van bommell scream flair to me

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

he loves those normally!

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

pang of nostalgia as palace fan pearce mispronounces jerome boateng as jeroen boere

r|t|c, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

germany weren't great at defending corners vs portugal

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

bad ball afalley

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Terrible cross

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Afellay's delivery has been rubbish so far

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

badstuber's head of iron

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

clowning the ballboy

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

is lawro even awake here ?!

PSOD (Ste), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

jogi lol

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

shh you'll wake him

fuck what a finish

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

super mario

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

I thought that was a bit rubbish, but actually it was pretty great

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

incredible control from mario

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

just wow

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

graceful pirouette

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Love how he almost walked it in.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

oh lovely, what a finish

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

it was like a fifa goal

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

germany not doing that good a job screening the back four here. In fact playing as poorly as they did vs portugal. well not poor more mediocre.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

Putting up your arm and looking at the linesman instead of defending and preventing the goal just in case it wasn't offside: C/D?

StanM, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

D. never understood while people get so upset about players waiving imaginary cards but not when they raise imaginary flags.

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Van Bommel with the sly dig. What a nice man

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

need some blowing of imaginary whistles

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Holland on the brink of a proper shoeing here

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

clipped his own heels there

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

FUCK!!

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

ffs Holland

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

has to score there

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

unbelievable defending/miss

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

oh noes I am channelling Robot Wars Man

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

That was nuts.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

MARIO

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

oh shi

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

He can barely be bothered to celebrate any more.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

finish

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

mario!! i like mario

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

stick a fork in them

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

His finishing. Fucking Hell.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

fucking hell this Dutch defence

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

I envy his sang froid.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

benefits of starting your best international striker

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

need a .gif of that guy celebrating now

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

defending for that Badstuber miss was shocking too

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

anyone remember circa 2008 when gomez was seen as a bit of a zlatan type joke? so glad he that went out of the window.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck's sake, some moment I pick to try switching to the fivelive red button commentary. I didn't think there was anything on. It was fucking Alan Green when I got there too.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

holland almost as poor defending as they are going forward

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

he was shit at the last Euros iirc

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Boateng you knob

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

This is like watching England-Germany now.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

i remember the cl final when he was seen as a bit of a joke.
xxp

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Boateng you feckless get

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

lol xxp

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Oh IK that some really bad luck

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

It's all reverse psychology imo - let the germans get in a few, let them think they're ahead, and then BAM!

StanM, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

schweinsteiger with the two assists

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

THE BRAIN

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

surely to god van Marwijk's got to change this around at half time and go balls out

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

like maybe assume they're not gonna keep Germany out and just try to out-gun them

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

Germany should be dangerous this tourney if they start playing well eh?

karma calling for van bommel

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

not his style really but he has no choice. Or they will just go 100% thug which IS his style

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

might as well play with no left back

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

Germany could even give some of their crap backup players a run out at this stage

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

rmde at bloggers using this game as justification for why they picked germany to win it all, as if that is some kind of earth-shattering prediction no-one expected

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

xxp

i thought they were *rimshot*

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

almost brilliant

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

great effort!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

it was deflected guys

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

He meant that too

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

you think he will take rvp off at half time?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

bit harsh blaming van der Wiel for the first

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

Do Germany get to have their own special hype man whose job it is to repeatedly shout 'MARIO!' very loudly?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

still loling at this
http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-5bamgp.gif

zappi, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

hahahaha

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

gomez just used to be known as shit, it's only now he's earned the zlatan style rep for toeing the greatness / comedy ineptitude line

love him tho the big hunky sod

r|t|c, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

GOD FORBID WE GO A WHOLE HALF TIME PERIOD WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT ENGLAND EH GARY??

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

ffs

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

particularly pompous nonsense even by the standards of England hype too

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Great lighting on Keown

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

like a tortoise with a harsh heat lamp being shined on him

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

vdv and huntelaar!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

for van bommel and afellay

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

seedorf calls it

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

this could become a k-classic.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

It'll be 4-0

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

might as well play with no left back

rip world cup finalist Edson Braafheid we hardly knew ye

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

i thought Seedorf was pronounced more like "zaydorf", is Lineker being a deliberate churl or am i wrong?

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

how many dortmund players are they gonna link to old trafford?

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Lawrenson is a great commentator... NOT

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

I like how you keep hearing him giggle off mic

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

Lawro losing the plot off mic

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

i was looking for the overhead camera and accidentally got 3 seconds of Alan Green. he makes Lawro sound like a great commentator tbh

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Has Lawro only just watched Wayne's World?

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

he clearly couldn't conceive of someone doing a job for the love of it

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

That £3bn means the EPL stamping on midbudget continental teams for 3 more years xp

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

wtf at that hummels run

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

the phrase "knife thru butter" sprang to mind there

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

although tbf Lawro's "dear oh dear" was otm

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Holland are so bad

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

hard to believe this is the same Dutch side that tried to kick Spain to death 2 years ago

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Germany - Russia - Spain - Italy semis please

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Spain were all wee guys, clearly Holland are not up to hardmanning the Germans

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

You just fucking know Robben's cutting inside and putting another fucking shot over that far post. Greedy dick.

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Unlucky, that was actually good

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

ooooh van Pers

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Germans just coiled waiting for the counter opportunity tho

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

yep, did willems just run away from ozil a second ago?

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

Holland look like they've given up. If I didn't have Johnny Heitinga in my fantasy league team I'd be hoping for a Germany whipping now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

i'm going to the pub for England-Sweden, shd be epic hilarity

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

back to winning ways? England haven't won yet iirc

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Sneijder deserves better

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

lol RVP's best effort turns out to be a lucky shinner

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

bleeding robben

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guG5qAU8E3Y

xp

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

great football great block

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

i assumed from the way Boateng was overacting he knew he'd handled it

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

"breaks on - 3 against 4"

Uh, can you not count?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

ha true nv

feels like a certainty that klose will bag one here

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

ooh

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

it's on

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

American joke:

Germany just brought on their Klose

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

thats why u play rvp and not a hick like kjh

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Well well.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty goal!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

dammit just when i was gonna nip down and start making tea

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it took andy cole 5 chances to score too
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

nuts!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

love Kuyt, but what exactly is he the answer to at this stage?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

which professional footballer played Sloth in The Goonies?

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

I keep hearing "Mentalists' Stadium"

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Starnge but true:

Never thought I'd see a German striker named Mario Gomez that all my friends refer to as Herr Gel.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

i wouldn't take off ozil here. podolski and mueller haven't really done much right?

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

lol Robben

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

feel bad for robben being replaced by a worthless piece of human trash like kuyt

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

i think robben may have used a circular saw on jonathon pierce's puppy and then flipped it over, waiting for sir killalot to breathe fire on to its mutilated dying body.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

in the name of god, lawro

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

fuck off Lawrenson reading yr motivational posters

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

Lawro turned into team building guru.

There is no I in TEAM!
Together Everyone Achieves More!
There is a U in CUNT!

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

stekelolenburg

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

that was a klose one

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

someone be a doll and tell us who what needs to happen for holland to go through in the last game

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

There's no I in TEAM but there is a ME.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

they have to draw this do they not?

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

no

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

lol didn't know until now his name was jetro

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

beat Portugal by more than one goal and Germany beat Denmark?

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

isnt it gd before hth?

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

someone be a doll and tell us who what needs to happen for holland to go through in the last game

― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:32 (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think they need to win by 2 for gd and denmark need to lose.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

yah i think u may be right nv

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Holland beat Portugal, Germany beat Denmark xxxxp

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Basically, they're out as it stands if Denmark get a draw against Germany B

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

oh aye they need a two goal win and Germany not to fuck them over for lolz

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

germany have destroyed this game marvelously imo

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

except germany b is like gotze schurrle kroos klose etc

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, but Germany aren't going to be too bothered about doing them a favour

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

lol that Germany could still go out

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

germany havent qualified yet! no way those prussian psychos will be complacent

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

got the radio on in the kitchen, ultra-patriotic Englishman Alan Green seems to really hate the Germans for some reason

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Is there anyone towards whom Green doesn't spew hatred?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

Stevie G probably

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

OOZIL

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

kind of endearing that Mick still refers to Ireland as "we"

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4103/keown.jpg

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

moaning about commentators - dud
turning tv/radio volume down - undud

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i find turning the radio volume down works a treat when following a game

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

i will now spend the next 5 minutes speculating as to which much-loved commentator ILX poster "whatever" is related to

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

i think you know what i mean

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Thomas Lawrenson (born 2 June 1957) is a former professional football player, a defender in the Liverpool and Irish football teams of the 1980s...He is married to third wife, Susie, and has two children, Sam and Ruby.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

I'm hearing you whatever, and I do try. It's just...

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

Here in the States, I often like listening to foreign streams which I don't understand; the crowd noise is there and the urgency in the commentators voices clues me on to something if it's a dull match and I've dozed off.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

otm

boxall, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

you get that from lawro?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

yes this is best
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, even if you can get a "stadium noise only" option it's often weirdly lifeless. moaning about shitty commentary is one of the pleasures of slow passages of play tho.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Thomas Lawrenson (born 2 June 1957) is a former professional football player, a defender in the Liverpool and Irish football teams of the 1980s...He is married to third wife, Susie, and has two children, Sam and Ruby.

― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:08 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you've lost me

as van bommel said to schweinsteiger on two occasions tonight

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

There was that one commentator I liked - funny guy and not full of stats or cliches - but I never hear him anymore. English, methinks or Brit and maybe on gol.tv. Anybody?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

Lawro turned into team building guru.

There is no I in TEAM!

Aw, didn't he actually say "there is no Arjen team"?. I thought he was making a funny!

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

moaning about moaning about commentators is Aimless level moral highgrounding

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

ffs nakhchivan

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

he is our lawro

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

When I'm streaming games at work, the sound is so low I can only make out the bass of the crowd anyway, so I mostly just go for the most reliable stream.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

nv is right, bawheids like lawro are there to be lamented and mocked

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

There was that one commentator I liked - funny guy and not full of stats or cliches - but I never hear him anymore. English, methinks or Brit and maybe on gol.tv. Anybody?

Stuart Hall?

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xPMH-u7a4

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

sorry all, i'm not on ilx enough to get the nuances spot on.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

was only gently ribbing tbh but in all seriousness, what's wrong with taking the piss out of woeful commentary?

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

There was that one commentator I liked - funny guy and not full of stats or cliches - but I never hear him anymore. English, methinks or Brit and maybe on gol.tv. Anybody?

― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zjhYKkOW0&feature=related

?

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

it ain't over til it's over, LBI

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

it ain't over til it's over, LBI

― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:30 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What probably hurts most is that after two appalling losses, we're still not out of the tournament. It's not fair. The misery is being prolonged in a masochistic way. Sneijder et al on telly still bloody saying "well we still have a chance!". Madness.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

The misery is being prolonged in a masochistic way.

proposed title for history of the England football team

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

nakh otm

ps fuck alexi lalas and taylor twellman but strangely not kasey keller

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

the weird thing is, it's not like the Netherlands only have a mathematical chance either, it more or less is in their own hands assuming Germany don't take the piss. and we know Germany never take the piss.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

that hall cunt needs a kick in the hipothalmus

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

/hypothalmus

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

The misery is being prolonged in a masochistic way.

proposed title for history of the England football team

― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:35 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

Not going to read all the comments you guys made up here, but assume you were all spot on:

- Horribly bad
- Pace like senior citizens
- Midfield took a day off
- Lolland

It was just laughable, really.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

jim, I can't watch videos at work, so I'm not sure

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

What's the chance for a Germany vs Russia game?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

assuming Russia and Germany win their groups they can't meet until the final i think

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

Hmmm

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

the guy im on about is a geordie guy, prone to strange metaphors and similes of his own devising, very effusive about good passages of play.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

germany v russia in kiev

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

like old times

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Date 23 August – 26 September 1941
Location East and South of Kiev, Ukrainian SSR, Soviet Union
Result German victory

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

I wish Mexès had done some kind of cheesy French pop song so you could be 'Mexès chanson massacre'.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

Dynamo Kiev vs SS!! Ah, such great memories.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

i seem to recall Mexès got accused of being a fatty hence the coleslaw bit

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

dunno why commentators aren't mining more WW2 gags instead of going for lame shit about Greek mythology and the Irish lads enjoy a beverage

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

feel bad for robben being replaced by a worthless piece of human trash like kuyt

― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:26 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

haha <3 never change

r|t|c, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

huntelaaar was some bullshit huh, fuck u misleading bundesliga

r|t|c, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

feel bad for robben being such a talented cunt.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Zucht. Dat je dus de hele tijd met zes (statische) man achter de bal wandelt, dat is geen voetbal.
De Belg was weer zeer bij de pinken "dan speel je met twee controleurs en dan kan Schweinsteiger zo de bal aannemen."
Maar goed, de prijs van niet ingrijpen na het WK.
― OMC, 56 minutes ago

"excuses voor het blazen, maar er zitten hier zeer irritante kleine vliegjes"
― clismo, 54 minutes ago

KAK!
― Jan Willem Broek, 36 minutes ago

otm

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

how bizarre to see omc posting here

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

ghost-writing for Jeff Stelling now?

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

apologies

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

xp

oh i laughed, harder than i'm proud of

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

almost googling the video now... almost to know it exists.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

That's do great.

pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

read a comment upthread as:

Who thinks Geir vs Ned will be this entertaining?

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 14 June 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

Geir's technical rigidity will be a hindrance but can Ned cease trying to wink the ball into the net?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 08:53 (eleven years ago) link

Asked about the Messi chants, Ronaldo said: "You know where he was at this time [last year]? Do you know? He was being eliminated in the Copa America, in his own country. I think that's worse, no?"

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

I like to think his bottom lip was stuck out when he said that.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

I feel a wee bit sorry for him (while still lolling away), he scores like a bazillion goals and people talk as if he's pish because he doesn't quite match up to the best player in the world.

Everyone takes so much pleasure in him fucking up. Hardly anyone does that with Messi (though that's maybe because he only fucks up against Chelsea).

That said, the second big chance he missed in that second half had me flashing back to Harard Brattbakk at Celtic so it must fall into the serious fuck up bracket.

hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

I do too; especially as that's *so* not the line to take on Messi, particularly when Holland may yet dump your ass out of the competition on Sunday.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link

it's pretty obvious why everyone hates him in comparison to Messi. It's alright though, I still love him

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link

there's a churlishness to a lot of the Cronaldo knocking but i've got to say he's never helped to endear himself to non-fans of his club/nation. if Messi doesn't get the same stick it's partly because he's a lot more reserved.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

he doesn't even endear himself to fans of his club/nation half of the time

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link

tbh i'm not really sure why his mishaps make me lol so much. He's obviously a great player and the stick he gets for 'sins' like diving or pouting are things that I don't really care about. He was one of the few players I liked at Utd, and I LOVED the wink. I think I mainly automatically want bad things to befall him 'cos he plays for Mourinho's Madrid.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i resent his Madridness much more than i ever hated him for being at United

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

Also I guess Messi's reserve is kinda how I'd like to imagine I would conduct myself if I were one of the 2 best footballers in the world. In reality if I were as talented as Ronaldo and had his looks I'd no doubt be 10x as obnoxious.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

Strangely I didn't find myself wanting bad things to happen to Ozil or Khedira yesterday so I'm going to put it down to Ronaldo just being a cock. I mean there are obviously worse human beings in football but Ronaldo is such an obliging hate figure due to being such a ponce.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'm 100% sure he doesn't give a shit about being hated either. He probably likes it actually

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

In reality if I were as talented as Ronaldo and had his looks I'd no doubt be 10x as obnoxious.

his looks?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

the looks of envy, mockery and contempt from random people around him

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo, a stupid, petulant, creep. The most famous and rich representative of things people hate about football. Still harsh on him though, he is one among many.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

that you Eamon?

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

eamon dun fie dem battymen

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

is there a particular department where he's the worst example of?

diving: there are worse offenders?
fannydangler: seems quite effective given the amount of goals he scores?
racism: has he been outed yet?
prostitution: i forget or is it just the other ronaldo?

maybe petulance? I dunno.

he always seem like actually quite a nice person in comparison to many others. but unlikeable definitely.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

ronnie was in former newspaper the news of the world for effing hooahs with anderson and nani back in the day

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

he's like that guy who comes to your street fighter parties who has practiced all the 13 hit combos and pwns everyone but is really boring and gets really upset if you ever beat him. xpost

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

he is quite good at football it's true

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

bet he's shit at mortal kombat though

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

eamon dun fie dem battymen

there are persistent rumours that he's gay himself

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

Today, Dunphy generally resides at his home near Ranelagh village in Dublin. He also owns a holiday home in Deauville, France.[2]

Dunphy married RTÉ Commissioning Editor Jane Gogan, his partner of 18 years, at the Unitarian Church on St Stephen's Green on 24 September 2009.[20]

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i wasn't saying there's any truth in them. i know her daughter actually. for a long time a friend of mine was trying to persuade her to get eamon to come for a beer. she acted like it was possible and he might but it never happened.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

Geir's technical rigidity will be a hindrance but can Ned cease trying to wink the ball into the net?

But that's how I roll.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

cox to start for ireland. WHY?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

ah fuck

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

i dont even know who he is

i mean i have heard the name and obviously he must play for one of wolves west brom or birmingham and i trust he is a game lad but beyond that

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

he's not one of ours.

does this mean Doyle is dropped?

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

he runs a terrific tactics blog iirc

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

if the irish fa finally give up on football they could start a discount gay escort service called ~game lads~

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

not sure if that's true about cox, a mate said it on facebook but i see no lineup confirmed yet.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

i was doing Long and Cox jokes when the squad was announced tbf

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

fans banner (have we already had this?)
https://p.twimg.com/Au8ZeeyCMAArgQi.jpg

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

the logo helps to give it an official air offset by the thing that it says

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

John Delaney probably made the thing in fairness

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

the long cox thing is ancient, jpgs of the back of their jerseys in the same shot etc.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

“I have a great many regrets,” Van Marwijk told press. “My main disappointments were the defence, midfield, attack, the way our kit has these weird patches on it and the odd guttural chants our fans sang in a language that makes German seem elegant.

“Maarten Stekelenburg is OK, though.”

Hahah!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

lol i thought stekelenburg has been shite so far

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

i wasn't expecting croatia to start with both CF's today, although as they both played so well vs Ireland I should've been perhaps. Both teams unchanged from their opening game.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

Think 3 at the back suits Italy but means pirlo plays a little deeper than ideal, well he did against spain anyway.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

cassano looking a little chummy with mario there during the anthem.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

back 3 vs 2 CFs should be a bit different than vs 0

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah should be ideal, the proper centre-backs to man-mark and De Rossi to sweep.

boxall, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

better cross by srna than he managed against ireland

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

croatia are letting chiellini be the one who takes the ball out rather than de rossi

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

is that van marwijk quote real?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

i <3 cassano

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

no
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

shit

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

wish it was

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

ian wright's buddy getting angry

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

howard webb ffs

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

lovely football, good stop

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

pletikosa made himself big there

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

pirlo!!!!

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

ooooooh yes direct free kick PIRLOOOOOOOO

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Damn!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

man i love this team

pirlo :D

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

just lovely

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Pardew

1. Allowed back on BBC after rape-gate?

2. Has 'no idea' what Ba tweets are about. So he'll be off in two days if 'Arry's denial is anything to go by.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

modric lucky to still be on

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Webb winking! Eugh.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

What did modders do? He's someone you wouldn't particularly mind meeting in a dark alley.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

a booking for modric means he misses the spain match so webb lets him off with a couple of handballs

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

all prem friends together

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

Damn!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

great touch and finish
awful chiellini

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

oh fuck off chiellini

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

giorgilol chielolini

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

fucking fans w/ flares.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

ffs cant see anything

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

can't see in that pen box with all the smoke

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

<3 flares, smoke &c.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

bilic is a most likable manager. hope italy and croatia make it through

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Hmmmmm. There's an invisible picture in that last post. Never mind.

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

flare after a goal, pretty standard procedure. doing it just randomly is a bit annoying mind.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

giovinco is sooooooo tiny

i knew he was small but tiiiiiiiiny

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

he took that off his foot!

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

the italy chance i mean

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

great sequence there, the Italy attack and up to chiellinis tackle

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

torres starting tonight btw

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

oh dudu

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Not a good result for Italy

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Presuming Spain beat Ireland, Spain and Croatia can 2-2 Italy out of the tournament Denmark v Sweden style.

if, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

Not a good result for Italy

Not an entirely unexpected result either.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

its cool guyz spain are gonna get long cox

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

So here we go, soon.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Presuming Spain beat Ireland, Spain and Croatia can 2-2 Italy out of the tournament Denmark v Sweden style.

― if, Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:56 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is this right? If all 3 end on 5pts with none of them recording victories against the other then I thought it went to group g diff not head to head g diff? In which case it would depend on Italy's scoreline vs Ireland.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

always enjoy the panning along & up & down the spanish team

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

oh it is goal diff btw the tied teams so that is correct

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

the whole countdown from 10 before kickoff is something completely new right? it feels kinda stupid

Jibe, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

It is kinda stupid.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

no kinda about it

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

TORRES!!!!!!!

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Well.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Damn!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

uh oh

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

This could be a long night for Ireland.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

What a beauty!
NANDO!!!!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Nando!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

Straight through Given.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

this will get embarrassing.

torres is gonna get me ff points out the wazoo

sweet torres type goal. kinda hope this is a real return to form for him.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

feel bad for Given in this tournament so far but, y'know, I'm not Irish so

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

nope
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

God I hope Spain annihilate Ire tonight

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland have been okay going frwd so far

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

THAT pass from iniesta to silva with THAT reception

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

yup
shame arbeloa isn't better on the ball cos he's in acres every time

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

ireland hanging on by bits of blu-tac right now. irish possession has been so wasteful too.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Keane coming back 40 yards to collect from the full back then pass to the keeper. What is the point?

(p sure I've made that exact post before)

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

is shay given really fit

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

not fit but u don't know it

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

wtf, my espn3 just switched from english to spanish for about 30sec and then back again

either that or macca was remembering his days in madrid

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

Given looks like he did all year for Villa. Sadly.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

either that or a gk whose best feature was his reflexes is done at 36

easy for a shit gk to hide behind a terrible terrible team like villa (see also paul robinson)

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

The pass Spain want to play is always on

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

ref

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

haha aw

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

Robbie Keane - one of the stars of world football

AlanSmithee, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

"He was kept honest by Cox"

The first line of Drury's Irish football slash fiction

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

thought torres could've tried the chip there

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

It looked very inviting

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

didn't watch much la liga last season, jordi alba looks good so far this tourney.

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

how the hell is this only 1-0?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Robbie Keane - one of the stars of world football

― AlanSmithee, Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:22 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha yes I enjoyed the ambiguous wording there

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Piqué made his debut for Manchester United in October 2004, as a late replacement for John O'Shea in a 3–0 League Cup victory at Crewe Alexandra as a centre back.

I like this, you could sense the mantle passing that night

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

xp well apart from Torres' second chance early on Spain have tried to Arsenal it into the net somewhat

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

how the hell is this only 1-0?

because it's Spain, they have been scoring 1 goal per match for how many matches in a row now (EC/WC)

expect them to break the spell this match though

Ludo, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

6 if they don't score again tonight

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

i love economy of effort

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

ugh ireland playing means they let tommy smyth out of the auld onion bag he lives in

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

Hahaha must you remind me of ESPN's own little leprechaun.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

classy finish

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

that finish

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

talk about pass into the net

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

through three men

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

That was class.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

poor deems. glad he has fervant spurs speculation to get him through the summer and distract him.

did beglin just call it epl? bleurgh.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

Damn, had to step away and miss the second one.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

good save

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

save!

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

sweet save from given!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

C'mon, Darragh will be like a pig in shit faced with this

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

the way iniesta received that ball

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

This is getting Harlem Globetrotters-esque now.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

It's not even just the attacking, either - any time Ireland get the ball, Spain just pluck it right back off them. It's like the only way Ireland can hurt Spain is by actually giving them an injury.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

*sigh*

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

piggy in the middle

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Silva winning a header on the penalty spot

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

And fin.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

he just can't stop

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

another pretty one for Fernando.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

there you go
moving up the klata scaleTM

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

oh nando, you came and you gave without taking

have they thrown up a possession stat?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

yup, that was assured

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

There was one earlier, Spain were only about 63%. I thought they might be exceeding a hundred.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Had to laugh at laugh Robbie Keane bravely running towards the corner flag while beating off a swarm of red-shirted humunculi.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

well at half-time alonso had completed more passes than ireland so i'm guessing 70-75%
xxp

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Cesc's teeth are so white

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

pffft taking off a striker on 2 goals against a knackered 3 division quality back 4.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Truly, Torres is the world's hexedest man.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

poor old llorente can't even get 10 mins

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

FUCK

pandemic, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Damn.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

holy racist

...plz come back...

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

oh dear, that is poor

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Paul Green at fault there, well in fairness he's not even playing for a club right now

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

absolutely painful

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

"One day, Spain will not have the best team in the world - then they will have to become, like the Irish, the best supporters in the world..." - if there's an upside for Ireland here, it's that Peter Drury definitely won't be commentating on their next game.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

"they're happy drunks, the Irish"

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

"theyre happy drunks, the irish".

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

haha

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

they're happy drunks, the irish.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

they are though.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

hp lovecraft 'the great green fantasy'.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

"The Spanish, are they really contenders?"

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, any questions raised by the draw with Italy have been totally quashed by this game

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Céad slán

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Bless them, such heart, such happy drunks, out there, spending the Euro they don't have.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

hoping England can sneak 2nd place in the group now so i can enjoy the full blown masochism of Spain sticking 6 past them

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Half of them have gone dressed as leprechauns, they're kinda asking for it tbh

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

t/s: leprechauns vs knights with historically inaccurate flags

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

:(

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

don't ever change roy.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

knights with historically inaccurate flags

Che dice?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

roy keane hilarious there

Chris, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

roy keane otm there

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

He was!

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

btw are keane and vieira friends now?

Chris, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Missed all of today's matched due to work, but want to share a staggering stat from yesterday: Mario Gomez, in the first half against Holland, was in possession of the ball exactly for 22.3 seconds. That's all. Two goals in 22.3 seconds. o_O

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Sheva did better with 2 in 15

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Roy Keane - "the irish players think theyre top class, well theyre not top class"

thats bullshit, like they didnt know it wasnt a david v goliath battle. keane is just a GOWL

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Keane's the kind of guy who 'has friends' xp

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

obv. but thats some straight trolling, guy has no class

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

and giving out about the fans? guh

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

What'd he say about the fans? I switched off after the 'not top class' bit, I didn't know there was gold to come.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

said they shouldnt be signing when they got beat so bad

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

his shtick has always been that the 'great bunch of lads' 'best fans in the world' stuff was a load of shit

which it kind of is

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

i wonder about given

unlike a lot of the others, he is an established & talented player and he has been fucking crap in two games

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

I was having conflicting thoughts while watching the singing. But that was more because it encouraged Drury's bullshit to ease the pain of making up the numbers etc. And you know that Spain are in the same fucking boat re: economy right?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

whats so bad about the irish fans? i dont think theres anything horrible about them

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

i think keane is arguing they aren't horrible enough

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

They were great, but tbh it's not much of an achievement really. You'd rather have no fans but be able to close down around the box.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

i would be happy if they fucked over this crappy italy team (pirlo and buffon excepted)

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

i will obviously be watching HRVATKA tho

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

/hrvatska

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

i dont know how you expect fan to react though. theyre a sad cunt if they cry about it and theyre a feeb if they act like its only a game.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

i am not a happy drunk

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

neither am i

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

whats so bad about the irish fans? i dont think theres anything horrible about them

― Michael B Higgins (Michael B)

i find international football fans - the face-painting, wig-wearing, "just here for a laugh" mob - fairly cringeworthy, and ireland are pretty much the apotheosis of that. oh here's a drunk guy dressed up as a leprechaun who hasn't been to a football game since the last time he went to old trafford, what a guy. bleh.

(n.b. i know im a hateful individual).

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

a broad generalisation. a lot of irish fans get the boat over for matches in england.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

oh huge generalisation, assumptions, prejudices etc. don't even get me started on the tartan army!

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

there is that element of Irish fandom, but there's also a big core of people who've gone to many many shit games and still turn up. It's unfair to tar them all with the same brush

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i don't fully share keane's predictable hatred here

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i know that, and to be honest in the greater scheme of things even my strawman irish supporter is hardly doing anything particularly wrong.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

or even "wrong" at all.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

football fans in general are idiots but rather the irish fans doing drunken singsongs with the spanish than a load of polish & russian reets kicking each others heads in

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

the latter is more interesting to watch imo, ha. nihilist jim.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

xp keanes just butthurt after saipan...would have happened whether mcccarthy was there or not tbh...remember when he said he'd never be a pundit?

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

tell you what though lads, we may be out but we'll have a drink and a sing song at the next game and show everyone we're the best fans in the world...YOU'LL NEVER BEAT THE IRISH (repeat to fade)

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

ha yeah i had forgotten that xp

he is just too deranged to be a manager

recent teams who most desparately needed a tv crew in their midst = 2009 era sunderland with keane kicking over tactics boards, dioufy threatening to stab anton ferdinand, millions of random irish dudes hanging around to no purpose

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Keane's not hating on the fans, he's hating on the bullshit "oh shure isn't it lovely to be here, never mind the sloppy passing and Paul Green in the side, shure maybe next time lads?" glossing over that inevitably goes on. (I haven't seen RTE's coverage yet but I imagine they'll be suitably brutal).

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

will ye have a big leprechaun hat

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

Roy Keane is a failed manager with a lot of grudges

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

a lot of grudges and no leprechaun hat

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

i'm wearing mine right now

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

He is, but he's right to say we should expect better...than Keith fucking Andrews and Paul fucking Green. He's 40 and of dubious fitness and he could probably still easily outclass our midfield.

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

i did find the shots of the irish and spanish fans together all singing with their arms round each other genuinely heartwarming.

Chris, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

what happened to james mcarthy? did he really have to miss the whole tournament

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

dad has cancer. Trap doesn't like him

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

his father has cancer iirc

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

           long

mcclean mcgeady coleman

mccarthy gibson

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

some actual speed >>>>>>>>> game lads

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

cox was toilet tonight btw

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

Keane is a fucking remedial moron. If he hates Ireland so much he shouldn't have signed every horrendous Irish also ran ever as a boss. And slated pundits forever until him and his wife needed a new kebab at burgerland in cork with lee sharpe, great guy, #keanebiogreference

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

he doesn't fucking hate Ireland, he thinks we shouldn't be happy to roll in, play like shit, and make up the numbers. fairly obvious point, and one that needs making.

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

doubt he needs the cash, just wants the attention

when he was at sunderland he would always be giving his rote 'like i said to be honest with you i've got no time for people who ______' opinions on every subject not pertaining to sunderland

but as gyac says, his core point here is otm

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

it's actually not a point that needs making though. Maybe ten years ago

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

not with the emergence of darraghmac, but keane still has a bigger audience

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

I like your proposed formation though nakh

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

swap hoolihan for mcgeady

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

i find international football fans - the face-painting, wig-wearing, "just here for a laugh" mob - fairly cringeworthy, and ireland are pretty much the apotheosis of that. oh here's a drunk guy dressed up as a leprechaun who hasn't been to a football game since the last time he went to old trafford, what a guy.
― tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow)
a broad generalisation. a lot of irish fans get the boat over for matches in england.
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B)

Old Trafford is in England

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

Hoolihan is 30 tbf

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

theory being that mcgeady is ireland's most skilful player and might as well bring him into attacking mid

especially if his crossing is as iffy as regular ireland watchers attest

i just think ireland needs to get beyond game lads and gameladism

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

Trap is there for two more years and showed little inclination to change a losing formula after Croatia. The whole setup looked so amateurish, it really embarrassed me. (Actually, amateurish is insulting as roughly 100% of hurling matches I've watched have displayed more skill,better fitness and backbone. Retracted.) It can't be stated enough. Keane was as right as he was after the waffling about how "lucky" we were to get a 2-2 draw against the Dutch in Amsterdam, when we were leading that game 2-0 for 70 minutes and squandered two points.

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

*in 2000, for WC 2002 qualifying.

gyac, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

i just think ireland needs to get beyond game lads and gameladism

definitely

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, there's no hope for the WC qualifiers whatsoever

Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah its gonna be grim

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

the clamour for hoolahan and andy reid before him is not the solution to gameladism

they are charlie adam type players who will hit one great 40 yard pass a match but end up with 55% passing accuracy

mcgeady is one of spartak moscow's best players, he has good control and a turn of pace, ireland don't have anyone like him

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

mcclean looks good but he is more of a krasic/valencia type who will power down the outside and get a cross in

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

prolonging the agony on the beeb....andrews has been our best player in this tourney (gulp)

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

howard webb being shit again

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

he doesn't fucking hate Ireland, he thinks we shouldn't be happy to roll in, play like shit, and make up the numbers. fairly obvious point, and one that needs making.

that's the keane trademark of total rubbish. he's a fucking moron who failed repeatedly as a manager and bought irish players incessantly to the point where it was funny. that was a point in the past but no way is it one now. this is one of the worst irish teams ever, and credit to trap for us being there, even with his wild contrarian decisions.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

theory being that mcgeady is ireland's most skilful player and might as well bring him into attacking mid

mcgeady is just crap.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

what is paul green then?

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

he's below any level but overall this side have underachieved hugely, even under trap. you look at how teams are prepared for a summer tournament and ireland look so fucking lethargic in this tournament. a goal conceded in first 3/4 mins of each half so far.

so different to the team that qualified. keith andrews the only player who stood up.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

this is not one of the worst irish teams/squads ever, but even if it were we`ve still not seen anything like the best from the players trap can be bothered to run his stubbornly limited and inflexible rule over from his dvd selection

this attitude of "he got us here" sickens my hole. the attitude of "we`ve only got shit players" sickens my hole. hid arrogance, his contempt for irish football and his sheer retirement gig `couldnt give a fuck for ye` response to very valid criticism sicken my hole.

he`s doing huge damage to irish international football

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

xp this is exactly the tem that qualified. any cunt can get draws in qualification by refusng to play football. come the contest proper you best have a bit more about you.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

it's all pointless

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

i`d rather my pointlessness try to play football, using footballers

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with you, to an extent. Whatever preparation he's done has been dire. My point was that they're far less vigorous and fit even within the confines of trap's tactics.

It is a terrible pool of players though.

And I do think you have to credit trap with something for qualifying.

Would love to see what Harry would do with Ireland.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 06:14 (eleven years ago) link

Repeated "sicken my hole"s - are you sure that wasn't the Euro 2012 cuisine btw?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 06:15 (eleven years ago) link

Trap barely deserves credit for qualifying. He took one point from six against the only decent team in the group. Had they been drawn against anyone else in the play-off, they would have struggled. They were thoroughly outplayed for large stretches against Armenia and Estonia - it was pretty clear that they couldn't take the same attitude (and starting line-up) into matches against Croatia and Spain and not expect to get a hiding.

I think Keane was harsh on the players, none of them performed to their best but they'd still probably have been beaten comfortably if they did. It's a limited pool of resources, undeniably, but Trap's stubbornness and inflexibility needs to change before the WC qualifiers start.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 07:50 (eleven years ago) link

I think Keane was harsh on the players, none of them performed to their best but they'd still probably have been beaten comfortably if they did. It's a limited pool of resources, undeniably, but Trap's stubbornness and inflexibility needs to change before the WC qualifiers start.

agreed. he has a rafa level of stubbornness. he would pick james mclean if everyone was telling him not to.

i dunno, i just don't feel comfortable totally berating him. we were in a fucking heap before he took charge.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 08:09 (eleven years ago) link

What's the difference between Spain and Fidel Castro?

Spain were helped by more than one Shay Giv' error.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 08:40 (eleven years ago) link

I am actually physically appalled that I just typed that.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 08:40 (eleven years ago) link

I'm appalled for you. And also at myself for laughing.

ailsa, Friday, 15 June 2012 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not really sure what that Ireland squad could have done that wouldn't have resulted in a whipping by Spain.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 09:14 (eleven years ago) link

I mean they gave away some soft goals but most of these players are either old and off the pace or just not that good in the first place. And Spain are one of the best teams ever, in midfield at least.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 09:15 (eleven years ago) link

fucking spain... i stay up till 3am to watch the first half hoping to see tons of goals and those fuckers decide to score only once before HT, keeping the other three for afterwards. bastards! not doing anything to make me like them one bit

Jibe, Friday, 15 June 2012 09:20 (eleven years ago) link

You want them to give a good account of themselves though xp, give it a bit of a go. Two things really - carry some sort of threat of winning the game (not too bad here as had a couple of threatening attacks, should probably give McClean and Long a shot at it), but above all not to give it up cheaply. If you do that and still get beaten you can't complain.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

I mean they gave away some soft goals but most of these players are either old and off the pace or just not that good in the first place. And Spain are one of the best teams ever, in midfield at least.

they played particularly badly and looked v unfit to me. but i agree with you mostly. i think conceding goals in the opening 3/4 mins of every half so far does suggest a lack of concentration though, even against top sides you'd expect a bit more resistance.

xpost otm

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:23 (eleven years ago) link

also on the fans stuff, fuck roy keane tbh, i was pleased with the fact they were singing at the end, support is a part of sport.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:24 (eleven years ago) link

the way he goes on you'd swear he wants the fans to boo the team off

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link

otm on the fans stuff. the press in france is in awe of the irish support and them singing till the end etc. apparently even the most annoying commentators shut up to listen to singing. coming from a country where the team is booed and whistled off the pitch if they are losing, the irish fans are dawesome and def not to be angry at.

Jibe, Friday, 15 June 2012 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

he wants the fans to run on and kick the players until they buck their ideas up

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:28 (eleven years ago) link

i have sympathy for his "losing is not a joke" shtick but he's wrong

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:28 (eleven years ago) link

of course we overdo the brave losers thing, but still.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

surprised to see Ireland as high as 18th in the FIFA rankings. if you look at the teams around them - Sweden, Mexico, Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, you can maybe see some models for having a go with limited resources and support not revolving around it all being a huge laugh.

nb i wd take "it all being a huge laugh" over "God Save the Queen" jesus that song makes me wanna kill

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:37 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't think Keane criticised the fans (I maybe need to see it again) - I thought he criticised the players for coming out and giving it "the fans have been brilliant" when they haven't given the fans anything worth watching.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:38 (eleven years ago) link

"the fans aren't just here for a sing-song" isn't the same as criticising them for singing.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

i thought andrews spoke well, but i dunno, i am a big fan of him in general. the only one trying to get a goal against croatia.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

surprised to see Ireland as high as 18th in the FIFA rankings. if you look at the teams around them - Sweden, Mexico, Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, you can maybe see some models for having a go with limited resources and support not revolving around it all being a huge laugh.

zlatan, yaya, falcao, hernandez.....

ireland just don't have the players

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link

Keane otm about it being right to have elevated expectations. Denmark is a small place without huge stars, but they usually manage to make the knockout stages.

I associate Scotland's nosedive with 'just pleased to be here' taking over as the sentiment, sometime around Craig Brown. It's maybe as likely the cause-and-effect is the other way round but still, I'm sure there used to be genuine annoyance at always going out in the first round. Now still having a mathematical shout of a playoff place come the last game is seen as a relatively successful campaign.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link

Denmark doesn't have huge stars but the base quality of those players is better across the board.

Problem with Ireland is that most of their players come up through the Premiership which isn't adequate training for getting even good English players to play decent international football.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 10:05 (eleven years ago) link

Problem with Ireland is that most of their players come up through the Premiership which isn't adequate training for getting even good English players to play decent international football.

this is otm too. there are definitely better guys not getting a run though, v similar to the england prob except our gerrard/lamps etc are robbie keane and duffer, and john o'shea.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that seems true

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

plenty of otm but i gotta go bbq and gokart laters

absolutely gutted that our early concession cost us the chance of getting my cherished 'shit without messi, you're only shit without messi' chant off the ground, has bemused spaniards from montecasino to the amber arena that one

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

i do think you can pick out zlatan falcao yaya as isolated players and try to make it look as if thats the company we`re in but that`s no more an average measure of the player in the teams around us than glenn whelan is of our first team. and zlatan`s shit.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

Also FIFA Rankings are bullshit because there's no way that the Ivory Coast aren't way better than Ireland.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

the rankings are iffy but the point is about belief in yr ability i think

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link

plenty of otm but i gotta go bbq and gokart laters

busy man

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2012/06/brilliant.jpg

Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

idg kr0-5sen

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

krosse is 'to crush'. idg why they've decided on 5-0.

useless chamber, Friday, 15 June 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

smorgas-bored into a coma more like

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

sweden are seriously up for this for some weird reason. it's like thomas ravelli's eyes have infected their hearts.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

games vs england are always a huge deal. no less now when roy is in charge, who this morning was described in one newspaper as a "god".

sonderangerbot, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

nb i wd take "it all being a huge laugh" over "God Save the Queen" jesus that song makes me wanna kill

and the little clap they give themselves after they've sung it. eurgh.

Chris, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link

why the sex pistols hate?

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

On a related note - is it true that fucking band are going to be allowed back in tonight? (the England brass thing, not the sex pistols)

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link

i joined the various "keep them banned" groups with pride.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

Pukka Pies will be making an official representation to UEFA following the exclusion of the Pukka Pies England Band for the England versus France at the European Championship.

Chris, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

Innocent Smoothie prob sponsor the band.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

imo it's grossly offensive to musicians everywhere to describe them as a band

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

Every nation gets the support it deserves iirc

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

not fuckin hardly

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

the aftermath of last night is tearing the RTE panel apart. Brady vs Dunphy right now

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

civil wars are always the bloodiest

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

Eh, what's going on?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Jeez, that rain!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

game off

sonderangerbot, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

looks a bit wet

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

Play suspended, lightning storm

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

whitey.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

fucking hell

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

Looks literally hellish.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow nice

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

no fire as yet

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

STURM UND DRANG BLUD

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

that shot is insane, it looks like a tornado coming through the roof.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

'there's always a game on somewhere and there is also someone topless at it regardless of conditions'

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

it's a real shame they suspended it because it looked very pretty in hd

sonderangerbot, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

mmmm yeah i don't think massive fuckoff thunderstorms happen every day in glasgow u bawheid burley

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

extreme weather footy is what HD is for

Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

eh what happens if the game is postponed? Do they award a point each? Can they actually replay in the schedule they have?

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

itll start in 20 mins probably

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

wow we had a brutal thunderstorm here almost exactly the same moment

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

tempted to say this was worth it to hear Craig Burley's metereological analysis just after they called it off

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

ah replay tmrw

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno, it looks flooded.

chiles says it will be replayed tomorrow if called off.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

otoh delete Europe

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

guess they'd knock on the buses off itv3 rip

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

they better not!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

I HATE YOU BURLEY

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

where is the eng-swe match/will the weather be similar?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

OH STFU ADRIAN CHILES WITH CLIFF RICHARD FUCKING REFERENCES

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

Nah it's in Kiev which is miles away.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

about 700km

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

of all the games to replay in this tourney

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

FFS

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

oh ffs not this game

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow i didn't watch it first time but lol milner the useless roidjawed* cunt

*not suggesting he actually does roids, if he did he might be able to run

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

lol at tymoschuk's wanker gesture to ribery

Chris, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

the aftermath of last night is tearing the RTE panel apart. Brady vs Dunphy right now

In the Indo today, someone wrote that the Brady-Dunphy-Giles trio are too old and past their sell by date and they need someone young and provocative to shake things up

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

after he patted him on the head!
xp

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

well i guess Sadlier is supposed to play that role Michael

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

no adrian lets not fucking talk about england

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

gordon strachan is better at light entertainment than chiles

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

favourite moment of major championships is the huge gaping goatse of a void in the tv coverage when england depart and they can no longer cut to gabby logan asking leighton baines what his favourite breakfast cereal is

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

it's even better than watching messi or ronaldinho or whatever

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

wait a min, why is there no warm up?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

the aftermath of last night is tearing the RTE panel apart. Brady vs Dunphy right now
those two fight all the time, do you not remember the time Brady sulked for ages cos Dunphy compared Wenger's anxious sideline pacing to the ministry of funny walks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgxJXRly5g

In the Indo today, someone wrote that the Brady-Dunphy-Giles trio are too old and past their sell by date and they need someone young and provocative to shake things up
lies detected

gyac, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Free Beer Movement ‏@FreeBeerMovemnt

Isn't that giant "THIS IS RUSSIA" banner just sitting around now? Can't we use that to top off the stadium and play on?

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

can't believe the pitch is playable already tbh

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

the lightning was literally unplayable tbfttl

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

lloris could have used his bucket earlier

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

on it's day
xp

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

should've scored

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

this is such a boring group, even the one with greece and the czech republic is more interesting

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

everyone who attends games just wants to be a gif now

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

that shot of the sky was the best moment since the lightning dissipated

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

that would have been such a great goal

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

2 free headers

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

wait what does edf energy have to do with antropomorhic phalluses

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

got the radio on and it's ahead of the itv stream. odd experience. spoilers.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

that is a really nice finish

never cared for menez whenever i've seen him before but he looks a cracker tonight

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

best player on the park the night it seems. don't know much about him if im honest (ligue 1 is vile).

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

he's been dirty mind.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

lucky to be on the pitch to score that. Easily could have had a second yellow at the end of the first half.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

nice from Cabaye

EZ Snappin, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

cabaye 2-0 that was too easy, ukraine just watched that pass go past half their team

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

best player on the park the night it seems. don't know much about him if im honest (ligue 1 is vile).

― tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:08 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've not seen any french football this season but he was always quite disappointing at roma, one of many creative players hoped to take the weight off totti and instead only showed up once a month

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

ooof

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

ah that would've been sweet

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

ribery walking around unchallenged

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

the way cabaye hit that shot against the post!

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

a bit like the ibrahimovic goal in 2008 but with more spin and less power

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

"brush yourself down with a local rag?"

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

with france having 2 holding MFs on the pitch it's a disgrace that Ukraine just got a run at the center of their defence

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

he's no pirlo

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

blimey they have just said we are signing the french grant holt

they could have said, oh didier drogba spent his early twenties in the french lower leagues before stepping up into ligue 1 and then went to the premiership but no, giroud is the french grant holt y'all

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

fitba hacks are loathe to compare players of different races

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

you may as well just sign the actual grant holt eh?

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

burley dissing celtic now

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

if italy found a young deep lying playmaker of african descent, he would be called THE NEW BALOTELLI rather than THE NEW PIRLO

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh totally nakh, i personally think of it as new paddy vieira syndrome

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine booed off the pitch.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

they're doing the WOULDN'T SWAP OUR LOT FOR THEIRS thing that they last did when mesut ozil ched evanned gareth barry

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

La la la queeeeen.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Nice of the teams to honor the Lindsay Lohan news with song.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Tall Swedish player uses the tactic of closing his eyes and pretending he's deep in thought to avoid singing.

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

i keep thinking of this a hoy hoy post whenever i see him

Favorite unintentionally homoerotic sports imagery

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

no longer looking like a wizard tho :(

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Burley's Celtic diss factually incorrect, since Celtic beat Rennes 3-1 with M'vila sent off. Burley is a dick.

ailsa, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

"brush yourself down with a local rag?"

― pandemic, Friday, June 15, 2012 6:24 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah wtf was that about?

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Nice of the teams to honor the Lindsay Lohan news with song.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:56 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what news is this?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

LiLo's been found unconcious in a hotel.

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

Or not. The hotel was probably unconscious.

From a friend's Twitter feed:

England are so anti racism that they have literally nothing going down the right.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

She was probably watching this Eng/Swe game.

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Welbeck is too good for these cloggers

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Zlatan pwning Terry immediately followed by the inverse p much sums up this carnival of dislikability and turgidity so far

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

What the

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

roy you genius

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

The big man

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

we are never going to hear the end of it but

that is a sweet fucking header

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Stunning. So pleased for him.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

went in just as I pressed submit on that last post

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

it really was a cracking header

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

that's what i'm talking about

fuckin have it

r|t|c, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Incredible execution.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2012/5/25/1337982514412/Andy-Carroll-001.jpg

Former England manager, and BBC Radio 5 live summariser, Graham Taylor in Kiev

"I feel like I'm watching an old-fashioned club game. I don't feel like I'm watching an international game. Both sides are playing the same formation, there's no movement of players and no change of positions from players on either side. It's a different type of game to the ones we have been watching in this competition."

r|t|c, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

did Lawro just make a gay joke there

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

Milner is shite. Give Walcott a go i reckon

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

pretty tedious apart from that 10 seconds or so

mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Eng-fra was Boring as hell. Eng-swe is Boring as hell. I'm detecting a pattern here

Jibe, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

yeah this game needs players to actually try and run somewhere. so static.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

i lol'd

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Oops.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Carroll goes from hero to zero.

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

was that glenson it came off?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

ffs can't England play consistently for the whole of one sodding game? It's like the entire team was lobotomised at half time.

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

other countries got rid of their ballacks and rauls when they were no longer of a quality and anchored the side to the bottom of the sea

gerrard is the worst thing about england right here

not every pass has to be overhit 20 yards ffs, you need to stop playing with charlie adam

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

looooool

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

well bollocks

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

The fuck

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

hahahahahahahaha

EZ Snappin, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Mellberg!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

what a fucking shambles

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

lovely beard

ebjt gonna cry

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

man Melberg is a kind of titan

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

zlatan taunting joe hart there a bit lol

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Can't help feeling like I've seen this game before

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

i know mellberg is beloved everywhere but he does deserve to be acknowledged in that henrik larsson type of ilf collective heart. since he left the premiership and had a rubbish year at juve he's been forgotten

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Milner has been diabolical, good riddance

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Melberg's beard is the business. Victory for beards. Wtf is up with england's defence tho?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

i know people have issues with the wizard but sweden p much just do lovable footballers right? even going back to that half decent mid nineties team

fucking save!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

woah

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

This game!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

called it tbf

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Woo!

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Milner is shite. Give Walcott a go i reckon

― Number None, Friday, June 15, 2012 8:48 PM (34 minutes ago)

^^^

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

where is my theo wondergoal prediction to c&p right now?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Keeper...

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

sweet hit

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

This fucking tournament is unreal

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

broke the keeper's ankles there

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

predos:

Winners: Germany
Runners up: Italy
Poland and France in the Semis
England knocked out of Group Stages by Sweden

Top goalscorer: Nando Torres

Theo will score a beautiful insane goal against a 10 men Ukraine that guarantees he'll be shitty and not live up to expectations next season.

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:14 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh my bad i said it would be against ukraine

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

don't think he's ever scored a 20 yarder like that before.

this game suddenly turned awesome in time for me to have to stop watching and get ready for work. f u ukrainian weather.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

fucking commentator. who the fuck is 'done' when they go to juve? i know it wasn't the greatest juve side and i know he then had a crappy time there but ffs. i hate this only league in the world shit. its not like he went to reggina.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

seeing players running through the centre for 15 yards is almost unreal after the first half when it felt like the pitch was about 30 yards wide

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

behind the goal dude earning his pay

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

guy mowbray is worse than everything

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Amazing.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

aw yeah

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

FUCK YES!!!

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

beautiful.

if ever there is a reason to drop the whole old guard, that goal is it

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

i want the england team of that goal to succeed. would support walcott and welbeck's england.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Wellbeck wonder goal

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

this will be goodbye to sweden right?

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

at least that newspaper were right about five goals

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

told you he was too good for them

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

parker you turd

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

aw theo

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

this will be goodbye to sweden right?

― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 21:38 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes. the best they can hope for is 3rd.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

walcott will be extra dangerous now with an ankle injected with pure crank

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Sure? If England beat Ukraine and Sweden beat France (which would be the least likely scenario, true), don't Sweden go through ahead of France on H2H?

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, no, sorry, forgot they lost to Ukraine...

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

wellbeck miscontrol for that goal imo.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

history will p definitely mask the quality of that England performance with their goals but as long as Hodgson is still willing to pistolwhip them until they stop falling asleep at setpieces it doesn't rly matter

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

wellbeck miscontrol for that goal imo.

― tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 21:57 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

no chance

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

so do you drop carroll or wellbeck after that performance? hopefully walcott keeps milner's place.

mizzell, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

hilarious game.

caek, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

carroll will be dropped
xp

pandemic, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Carroll obviously. Welbeck and Rooney play together every week

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

in texas. had to drive an hour to find a tv showing the game. totally worth it though. what fun! i missed the walcott goal because of this

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576724_10151843929645305_1459608211_n.jpg

caek, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

I would play wellbeck, but that header is exactly how roy wants to play.

mizzell, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

according to lolexi lalas, that's how he wants to play against sweden, but wouldn't persist with it against a decent defence

caek, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Ashley Young looked a bit of a lightweight in that match

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, he wasn't any better than Milner tbh. I hate his stupid hunched running style too

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

welbeck miscrontrolled big style

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Friday, 15 June 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

(translation, so I'm told: "looking for a husband? talk to us") xp

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 15 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Welbeck knew exactly what he was doing, he immediately turns to follow the path of the ball. He's done similar things for Utd too

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah his reaction made it seem like he expected it to go in

mizzell, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

wonder what roy keane would make of that flag

caek, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Welbeck obviously knew what he was doing and it was well done. Even I can admit that.

Tho Rooney would have been on the edge of England's box for that chance.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

number none even miscontrolling his own posts now. infectious

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Friday, 15 June 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

still scored though

Number None, Friday, 15 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

welbeck is not english

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

i was hoping id expressed my high regard for welbeck before that

hes still a work in progress but he just doesnt look like yr average english centre forward at all

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:15 PM (1 month ago)

he seems italian imo

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Friday, 15 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

I think if I could make a change for the next match I would probably stick Ferdinand on oh no wait

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Friday, 15 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

ferdinand would've meant it #technician

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Friday, 15 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

lol I guess this means SPAIN in the 2nd round.

At least Sweden has been finally beaten in another vintage perf from our lads.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 June 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

wooo spectacular win best team in the tournament that shd show the naysayers

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 June 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

yeah you'd have to be a horse to think that england won't win this whole thing now

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Saturday, 16 June 2012 09:28 (eleven years ago) link

no wait, thats neighsayers, nm

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Saturday, 16 June 2012 09:29 (eleven years ago) link

am i wrong though

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Saturday, 16 June 2012 09:30 (eleven years ago) link

I missed yesterday's game but having seen the highlights and the France game, England at least appear to be playing with some spirit, which is more than you can say for any other tournament since 2004.

The problem that won't go away is the inability to keep the ball in midfield but England don't have the personnel to fix that one at the moment so they're not going to get anywhere without mad pace on the flanks, which makes leaving Lennon at home even more bewildering. England have also been shit at defending set pieces since basically forever.

Love Welbeck. Should start with Rooney against Ukraine. Young out Milner out, both Arsenal wingers in.

Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

it was such a brilliant game.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 16 June 2012 11:04 (eleven years ago) link

Night after and it was an excellent winning goal - a win at an Euro match should be quietly celebrated. Glass of sherry type thing.

Would keep Milner in.

Just wish Eng could avoid Spain...

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 June 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

if today's french news show is to be believed, andy warhol scored england's first goal last night.

Jibe, Saturday, 16 June 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

In the future everyone will be bought for 35 millions.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 16 June 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/IBRAHIMOVIC.gif

bad karma homie

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Saturday, 16 June 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

I'm convinced there was a corner shortly afterwards where Zlatan had a drink from Hart's water bottle, too.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

And it turns out I'm right:

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptussowexperts/zlatanwater.jpg

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Neil Ashton:

Holger Badstuber (Germany)

Position: Centre back Age: 23 Club: Bayern Munich

Scout’s Report: An exceptional left-footed defender. Classy and composed on the ball, he has an excellent reading of the game. He started his career at full back so he can operate in wider areas. He needs to work on his finishing when he goes forward for set pieces, judging by the header he put straight at the goalkeeper in Germany’s game against Holland.

Value: £15m

He’d fit in at... Manchester United or Arsenal. His versatility would definitely be a bonus for Arsene Wenger, given the manager’s difficulties in defence last season.

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

What's ibra saying above

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

fuck you?

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

"Respect"

boxall, Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

players probably say that to each other twenty times a game

it's the look of utter contempt that makes hit, he has almost as little respect for hart as he does for his own team-mates

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

hit

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

it's the fact that he's saying it right after they scored though

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

hart shoved one of the swedish players directly before that. they were celebrating in a group huddle thing about a foot away from hart and he had a wee shove on one of the player's backs, ibra saw it and had words.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

then drank out of his water bottle later: a+ trolling.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

can't stand hart myself so meh

Chris, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

I DRINK YR MILKSHAKE WATERBOTTLE

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

i have no problem w/ hart. he says stupid bland inanities but if i was to hate him for that i'd hate 95% of footballers. he is good, not great, kinda forgettable.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

hm he's ok i suppose. actually i think i'm confusing him with someone else. nevermind.

Chris, Saturday, 16 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

i'm going russia-greece, just feel like i could see a spa-ire style match of gooooooals.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

You need to brush up on your IOC codes.

Obraniak is dangerous from set-pieces on the right, with his left foot.

boxall, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Just like this one.

boxall, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Ech, missed

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

thought he'd score there

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

This has been good. Pilař is a promising young Czech player, they don't come around often.

boxall, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

It looked awful, but was actually quite hard the way his balance was

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Bet he gets it right this time, Obraniak.

boxall, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

Poland need to score soon, this dominance can't last

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

this has been good so far. its mostly been in greece's half, kerz had a nice half volley that went just wide.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Bright thinks Greece are playing 4-2-4-2-3-1. Illegal surely?

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

oooooooh zherkob just ran 50 yards, went past two and is so so close to getting to ball to dzagoev for what would have been a free chance. getting closer and closer.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

when he wound up for that i was thinking FFS what a waste

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

p good shot in the end
poland have to score before they run out of steam here

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

They've been great but they are running out a bit - still attacking loads but those attacks are ending further and further from the Czech goal.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

spain '82 was the first int tourney i can remember and since then i've always felt they should be played in blazing sunshine and stifling heat. This feels wrong. Could be fun though.

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Feels strange to hear "Gebre Selassie" and not be watching the legendary Ethiopian runner sprint away from the field to win another Olympic gold.

boxall, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

when poland do work it wide they only have lewandowski in the box

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

gebre selassie, pilar and hubschman are all good

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Kinda agree about blazing sunshine and stifling heat - they should look entirely unlike regular footy is the point. I was going to posit ungodly kickoff times too, but that was just Mexico 86 really.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Classic Greece

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Gah!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Classic Russia too

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

neat finish

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

like a haggard Leighton Baines, that guy

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Awful from Zhirkov.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

means czech rep may come out a little more which is good for poland

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

jeez, that'd put Greece through?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Damn, great goal. What amazing timing before the half!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

"russia and greece will go out of group a" according to commentator

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

by 'go out' he means 'not go out'

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

ungodly kick-off times hmm. I did love 6am kick offs at Japan/Korea 2002 I admit.

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

he also said Poland would "go home"

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

surprised lineker is pressing moyes like this

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

lol hes still going

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

he wants him for spurs

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

apologize to Harry you bastard

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

at what stage would greece face england on the way to their second championship

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

haha
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

And now Shearer's joined in.

"Do you think Bill Kenwright would give you permission to talk to Spurs?" I want them to work Clarence into this.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

clarence you've been to some good west end musical entertainments in your time haven't you clarence

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

shearer makes it sound like avb shouldn't get another job cos the chelsea players didn't like him. Did the porto players hate him too?

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

here comes Pav

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

Don't remember the kick-off times being particularly ungodly for Mexico 86? I'm pretty sure the Hand of God game was on a Sunday afternoon (UK time), and England v Paraguay early evening. I have vague memories of seeing Wilkins get sent off and Robson injured on a Friday night (?) in a dreadful game in the group stages. The 3-0 with Lineker's goals must have been late and on a school night because I didn't see that live.

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

"assaulted by polanski" hm

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

kerzhakov has been pretty bad even disregarding his finishing

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the 3-0 was gone midnight
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

i remember wilkins getting sent off on a friday as i was staying at my grans and she let me stay up .
Also remember being allowed to stay up on a schoolnight to see denmark beating scotland.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

greece's attacking players are worse even than ireland's

i remember when samaras joined citeh he described it as a stepping stone to one of europe's biggest clubs

(onimo mutters something about jock stein)

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Am I the only one watching Ch-Pol?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

i'm watching it

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

poland offering nothing this half so far

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

lol I was just laughing at that classic Samaras break there, nice touch, rides a tackle, overruns the ball, has to challenge to keep it, somehow still has it, strides forward past another man, gets excited, shoots ridiculously wide from 30 yards, fixes his hair, expressionless.

His whole career in 10 seconds

xxxp

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

The analysis of the Greek goal was hilarious:

"Good goal"
"Keeper should've saved it in my view"

I can only assume they couldn't see the start of the clip in the studio.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp - I am too, but it's not too much to write home about at present. Limbersky's looking bright, but no-one's really looking like scoring. It pretty much is what it is.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

poland czech game is shite. lewandowski should've scored first half. that's about it. czech maybe on the front foot now?

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

If Greece votes anti-Europe tomorrow, wouldn't the team have to leave this tournament too?

StanM, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, Poland look out of ideas

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

yes

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

xps I'm pretty sure Eng-Arg 1986 was on a Sunday evening, 'cos I have a vivid memory of my pals coming to the door with about fifteen minutes to go, wanting me to come out & play football. I couldn't believe it - "nothing's going to happen now" they said.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

they look scared now tbh xp

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

of limbarski for sure

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

czech gonna score now i think

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

The many pronunciations of Dzagoev have been a highlight of this tournament. Grampa Mick just tried "Saguraff".

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

lol samaras arguing with referee while gekas is open

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

poland gonna do a new zealand and go out unbeaten at this rate at best

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

Greece denied a clear penalty, Karagounis is "doing his fruit down there" having been booked for diving.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

it's zagoyev or maybe tzagoyev i think

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

IK: Might have been 5pm or 6pm kick-off maybe, but I don't think it was later than that: my aunt & uncle & cousin were there (at my house, not in Mexico) and they lived about 50 miles away so they wouldn't have been there at 10pm or something. If only there was a way of finding out...

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

how many times did karagounis cross himself there?

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

It's not very good at the moment, no. But I desperately want Poland to win, they stole my <3 with the first two games.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Karagounis kicked the tackler's leg and fell over imo - debatable.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Should I start watching the Greece game instead?

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Greece have only ever won one group game before tonight. It'll be ridiculous if Russia go out here.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

TYTON YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

(this remark has been made by a proud PSV fan :)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Can fully see Pilar being a massive disappointment for Wigan next season.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

how many times did karagounis cross himself there?

dunno but he did it wrong every time

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean Poland are obviously miles better than CR. They can't even get out of their half now though

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

what a save!

leggo polska!

cissymanwhore (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

tyton got hit by the ball, then punched it.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Russia are playing shockingly weak right now

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

I could try getting in contact with my pals whom I haven't seen for twenty-odd years xp, but no guarantee they'd remember it...

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Good! Karagounis is suspended against Holland! ;-)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

has lewandowski touched it this half?

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

group eh

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

poland look like they've knackered themselves out. they looked good in the first half but all their attacking players seem to want to run full pelt with the ball past 3 defenders. seem like they've got nothing left to give now, like in the greece game.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

I want Lewandowski's shoulders. Best shoulders of all players in these Euros imho

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

multiple xps, The D isn't really pronounced in Dzagoev when Russians say it but idk how the Ossetians would say it.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

gomez has great shoulders too. xp.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

NBS: the Azteca had that crazy shadow from the overhead mikes, or whatever they were. If we knew the stadium's alignment we could probably work out the local time from the sun's alignment, then adjust for GMT.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Good thinking

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

gomez has great shoulders too. xp.

― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:11 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes! Forgot about him, Gomez has brilliant shoulders too. So broad, so good.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

aw polandpaws

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

dzagoev has best shoulder

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

this is tragic

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Jiracek scores :-(

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

good finish

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Aw Russia, sort this out pronto

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Bah

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Ach. Still, it was basically coming. So that... puts Russia out, as it stands?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

ahh bollocks the dirty cheating czech scum have scored

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Jiracek reminds me of

http://pandys.org/survivingthememories/images/jesus1.jpg

(the big guy, not the little guy)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

OMG Russia out with these scores!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Poland preparing the auto-da-fe's...

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

actually i'm not that sad if poland go out although i started the night rooting for them. V poor 60 mins vs Greece and nothing the last 45 mins here either.

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

russia could go out, blimey.

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

This is horrible but Russia really don't have anyone to blame but themselves at the moment.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

shocking dive from Zhirkov

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

OMG Russia out with these scores!
Only just got my head around this

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking Greece, fuck off will you.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

I know! o_O

xp

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

what's wrong with Russia? they don't want to go through or what?

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

milan baros is swarthy.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

turned over to bbc3. What's this non HD blur? #firstworldproblems

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Do Poland look like scoring?

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

filmed through tears of frustration

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

No
xp

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp - You should try having to look at Moyes' shirt on a CRT set.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

got a corner now tho

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking hell Russia this was one of my bankers. Another reason to hate that Advocaat cunt.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

advocaats problems are snowballing here

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Polish fans launching into their equivalent of Fields of Athenry, there?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

No faith whatsoever in Russia to turn this round

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Russia playing without any joy or conviction, they have sunk to Dutch levels of nothingness

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

marat izmailov is not a centre forward

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

otm :-(

xp

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

pav 10 yards over

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

im glad that poland and russia are going out. im just annoyed that they've fucked my fantasy football team.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

pavchav has been so bad this year

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

There's never any getting rid of Greece, it's like getting chewing-gum stuck to your shoe.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

oof close

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

couldn't've been closer

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp - That goal he scored against the Czechs was alright.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

czech rep topping the group after getting totally smashed in game one and outplayed in the 2nd half of game 2 is quite funny

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Nobody likes to see scenes like this

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

this prick for Greece

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

And the Oscar goes to...

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

otm
JUMPS off the stretcher

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

why is golem pogrebnyak shimmying along the touchline in the 87th minute

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

greek coach owns

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

go mick!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Greece-England Final still on.

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Russia... i just can't...

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

RUS - GRE 4 minutes extra time

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Zhirkov not having a great night

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

amazing fall from pekhart

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

whoa cleared off the line by czech rep

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Dramatic ending, but Poland out

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Czechs to the quarters

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

oh russiapaws

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

dirty cheating czech scum are through

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

"Dick Advocaat heading for PSV Eindhoven" fucking right, direct flight i'd imagine

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

and Greece too :-(

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, you've gorra laugh...

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Torture. These boring bastards have had every scrap of football luck this last decade.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

am i the only one sort of gleeful about this turn of events?

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

fucking gadz

worst possible results.

greece. czech rep. both boring boring bastards. fuck

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

yes xp

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

At least they'll both be out in QFs

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

they had a player wrongfully sent off in the first game and a clear penalty denied tonight

luck shmuck

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

loving it! :)

Ludo, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

You wouldn't mind if they offered some kind of entertainment, but they even made a fairytale victory into a pile of shit.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

poland were dreadful, czechs have been the better team imo. greeks are shite but also deserved it and it's an underdog story or whatever.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Greece deserved to win. Scored, should have had a penalty, hit the crossbar. Russia were terrible.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

You wouldn't mind if they offered some kind of entertainment

Have you not seen Angelos Charisteas try to dribble?

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

i don't mind greece this tourney. Hated them 2004.

pandemic, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Charisteas is the only thing missing at this party really :D

Ludo, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

ts: 'greece is the word' vs. 'england is dreaming' ugh

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

also germany greece quarter final: the merkeling?

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

At least they'll be up against Germany next, can't see them doing more than committing to hold out for a 0-2.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

england are a fucking shower of shit with a population eight times that of greece or whatever

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

omg @ Germany - Greece QF: one for the ages..

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't been so deflated by a night of football since that time Chelsea won the European Cup

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

russia have just always been liable to fuck up like this

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Germany'll go out tomorrow & Holland through, somehow, if tonight's any guide.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

murder on gdanskfloor

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

Apologise, Lineker

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

murder on gdanskfloor
:-) chapeau

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

Well done Greece - a lot of bullshit posts there. They play the tough stuff.

Russia were garbage.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

Grudging acceptance after seeing those highlights. Still hate them though.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

Why has Eastern Europe become a permanent football wasteland? Even Bulgaria and Romania offer nothing now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

tbh i'm annoyed they're through mostly because i'm already sick of the debt jokes

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

they all got democracies Ismael

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

er, Czechs are through..xp

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

...and Russia were fine until this match

breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

Czechs are mitteleuropa, and Croatia's practically Italy

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

Hold on, I'm not having Russia held up as a counterexample

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

I thought Russia would go far in this tournament, thought their back four and midfield were well above average, just didn't account for quite such poor finishing.

boxall, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

I don't consider Russia Russia part of Eastern europe - to the east, but, they are just Russia.

I still have a formally iron curtain approach to these things so Czechs = Eastern. And again, middle Europe doesn't really exist as a 'footballing region'.

Croatia are def East!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

Just saw a report on Greek election, guy was talking about a big day tom with car horns in the background...people are celebrating :-)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Tonight, Greece owns Europe.

StanM, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

it's almost as if the metaphorical concept of balkanization applied to states, because if one were to imagine all of the balkan countries together, why what a fine football team they would have

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

and by the same token, russia could have hleb, konoplyanka and mkhitaryan to add to their collection of ineffectual attacking midfielders

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

anyway heightened facetiousness isn't going to hide my disappointment here

greece might have one of the better cb pairings now? during the first half they were largely hidden behind the first line of defence but towards the end they looked solid...the pilsbury doughboy a schalke has been a prospect for years but former milan disappointment papastothopoulos looks like a canny fuck too, and he is pretty quick iirc

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

hm

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

the way they played in the first half was so defensive that one can assume vs germany or whoever they will play for 0 - 0

samaras might just about be a better dribbler than big angelos charisteas but he is worse in every other aspect

gekas is done too

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

Russia are just flakey cunts and deserve it really. Feel a bit bad for Poland but then again I didn't see their game today.

Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

Roffle:

Polish reaction in the Warsaw pubs and clubs: "At least the Russians are not through."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 June 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

was watching the poland v czech game. poland were shit, didnt deserve it, but russia? cant believe they blew it. greeks are a rubfest

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Sunday, 17 June 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

Kind of hope someone at Sheremetyevo airport puts up a sign saying "No this is Russia" on their return.

Russia blowing it and Greece being resolute are both predictable in their own way. Probably the biggest surprise for me was that this terrible Czech team ended up topping the group.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 June 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

Told you all Russia are shit. They drew with us at home FFS.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 17 June 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link

Group A got found out for the charlatan it was last night.

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 17 June 2012 08:55 (eleven years ago) link

a fat clown for all to see.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 17 June 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link

a nothing group.

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 17 June 2012 09:09 (eleven years ago) link

group a is a creep.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 17 June 2012 09:23 (eleven years ago) link

Probably the biggest surprise for me was that this terrible Czech team ended up topping the group.

Scots gonna hate but they improved after that disastrous opener - they were so dominant in the 2nd half last night it was embarrassing.

Can easily see them reaching the semis now.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 June 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

Oops sorry wrong tag there.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 June 2012 09:53 (eleven years ago) link

I'd be surprised if they did, tbh. They looked very fragile for much of the Greece game and were probably lucky to get three points. I like a couple of their midfielders, and Cech when he's on form, but reckon they'll struggle against Portugal. Might have a shot against Denmark, though.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

holland, tho

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't seen this strootman goon at all but if he is half as good as he is espoused to be, they should play him because otherwise the team is broken between two dmids and sneijder or if vdv plays, two amids and whichever of de jong and van bommel is retained

portugal's midfield is one joao moutinho away from being a lot of nothing, even denmark are probably better with eriksen and kvist atm

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

czechs have improved since hubschman came in but i'd definitely take them to go out in the qf. thought their dominance in the 2nd half said more about poland's spent force and lack of plan b than it did about them. xp.

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:20 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal are just as flakey as Russia.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

Nobody's as flaky as Russia, except their little brothers Serbia

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link

nigeria has a claim

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal are flaky, but not against the Netherlands ;_; (10 matches, 1 loss)

Ludo, Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

nah they aren't flaky, assuming they are judged by their record over the last decade or so rather than looking at preening eejit ronaldo shanking forty shots a game into the stands

2k4 you could make an argument but they did reach the final and greece were just on dis ting, 2k6 semifinal, 2k8 quarterfinal, narrow loss to spain two years ago

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

and throughout all of that (since the demise of figo and especially ruí costa) they have largely been a solid, aggressive, defensively minded team....they tend to wobble in qualification but they get there in the end so

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

2k6 was an awful perf against France (terrible SF all round), 2k8 Spain were doing the 1-0s but it should have been 4-0 morelike (only the Dutch figured out a tactic). Can see them doing nothing again come crunch time if they get through tonight.

Greece were magnificent Greece, but they were at home. Even Eng managed to win at home, once.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 June 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link

that neglects how 'crunch time' for portugal is usually at a stage beyond their actual talents

they lost 1-0 to france playing defensively vs the best side in that world cup, they forced spain to alter their natural playing style more than anyone else has managed in the last four years

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't seen this strootman goon at all but if he is half as good as he is espoused to be, they should play him because otherwise the team is broken between two dmids and sneijder or if vdv plays, two amids and whichever of de jong and van bommel is retained

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I too would put Strootman in the starting eleven, but our manager is just too chicken and stubborn to do it. He brings all these wonderful bright hot prospects to the tournament only to start with the same old players and in a system that hasn't worked for a year now.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Holland: Stekelenburg; vdWiel, Vlaar, Mathijsen, Willems; De Jong, VdVaart; Robben, vPersie, Sneijder; Huntelaar

So Heitinga, Afellay and Van Bommel (his son in law) are sacrificed. Could have been worse. I don't think Van der Vaart will last 60 minutes though, he's not in good shape. Fat and slow tbh.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

That's the Spurs way afaict.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

True dat. He's been extremely vocal and eager about wanting to start though. So tonight's the night to show he deserves it.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Good stuff, might as well go for it. What are the chances of a Battle of Nuremberg repeat?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Vlaar for Heitinga (player of the year of Everton!) seems surprising, but Heitinga has been dire in building up this tournament I think.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Van Bommel kicked it all off last time iirc, he could be sorely missed.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

IK, with Portugal versus Holland, there's always the chance of that. Portugal is the single team Holland has won the least against. 10 losses, only 1 win in 11 matches. Yikes.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

Van Bommel kicked it all off last time iirc, he could be sorely missed.

@Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:45 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I saw the footage again last night. The images of Van Bronckhorst, Bouhlarouz and Deco, all sitting next to each other having been sent off, is so beautiful.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Heartwarming stuff. I just had a look again there, van Bommel was indeed booked first, but Boulahrouz's foul on Ronaldo a few minutes later is the real beauty.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Heh, I remember being outraged at the refereeing at the time. I think I'd be happier tonight if we do get a repeat.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure how VdVaart and De Jong are going to stop the three midfielders of Portugal though. Robben and Sneijder are notoriously lazy when it comes to their defending tasks.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

100th cap for Podolski today

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

some kind of landmark in my life to see someone younger than me get 100 caps.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

There's still time. And it'd be easier for you.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

nothing like seeing a middle aged man in an orange animal costume singing the national anthem to fill a team with patriotic fervour

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

not this ref again

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

which game should i watch

mookieproof, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

portugal

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

muller just missed a sitter

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

muller with a shock miss there

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

A SITTER!

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

it was quite horrible actually xp

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

fat that

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

RAFA!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Absolutely beautiful hit.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Stellar.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

fuckin ell itv, my stream just neatly hopped from nothing much happening to holland fans celebrating.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldalmost!

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Postigalmost!

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

van der weezy wtf

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

POLDI

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

postiga is pathetic

moullet, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Postiga close again, but forgot to shoot

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

gomez touch to lay in poldi was sweet

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Strange how de Jong got so much space there despite (a) being in the six-yard box and (b) not moving

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

clean sheet looking highly unlikely for holland

denmark score

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

great corner from denmark, well done bendtner

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

craig burley 'zonal marking blah blah blah'

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

Was it Bendtner? Itv said Krohn-Dehli

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Should I switch to Germany-Denmark?

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

How many teams here *aren't* marking zonally?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

krohn-deli scored but bendtner set him up nicely with a header from the edge of the box. Xp

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

bendtner assist with header back across goal IK

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo scores.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo!

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo shows Messi. Great run tbf.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

neuer you madman

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

nice pass

moullet, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

gomez actually missed

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

he's always rubbish when he has time to think

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

wheres liedson ???

moullet, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

holland defence is a million disasters waiting to happen.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

cronaldo everywhere

moullet, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo's aerial threat is my favourite thing about him

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

aside from the sitter muller has been an absolute menace tonight

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Sensational touch from ronaldo

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Simon Kjaer, eh?

boxall, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ huntelaar arguing w the ref

moullet, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

should've been some added time though

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

They're prob somewhat conscious of the need to keep both matches on the same schedule?

boxall, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

uh, that shouldn't matter

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

It doesn't really matter tonight anyway, nobody can collude

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Lol @ us. This is a travesty, really. Again losing grip after 20 minutes. Defense is like Gouda cheese with big holes.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

The 'Hand of God' game kicked off at 12 noon in Mexico, which was probably 6pm in Britain fwiw

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

good work

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

Do I win then?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo changed hair style at half time!

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

lovely move from denmark. close.

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Do I win then?

I like to think we're all winners in this instance.

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Except Holland, obviously

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Holland have absolutely no chance of winning by 2 goals or more. Bye bye Bert, we wont miss you.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

If Denmark and Portugal win, what score lines are required to knock Germany out?

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

think if germany lose they are out unless they lose 4-3? Provided portugal win.

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

actually no, not sure
anyway it must not happen. I love Germany.

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

it's not very likely

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Dutch going for it, Willems off, Afellay on.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

if both these games finish 2-1 then germany out with 2 goals scored, portugal 2nd with 3 and denmark top with 4?

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

I love Germany.

Just the current incarnation or is this a lifelong love?

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

You're worrying me pandemic

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

not too keen on harold schumacher era it must be admitted. RIP batisson.
xp

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

could absolutely see GER fucking this up still.

boxall, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

Nani you dick

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

lol what a nani

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo can't do any more than that for him

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

2-1 Portugal!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Does it himself instead

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Cronnie!

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Germany not doing too much at the moment. Don't they remember the CL final?

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

worried now

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Does it himself instead

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:14 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

except Nani set it up perfectly

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Bendtner so close!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Don't they remember the CL final?

Ah, that magical night in Barcelona?

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Hats off to Nani xp, but I mean really

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

An aside: who should I support now that Russia has gone? I tend to like underdogs and eastern, but that would imply group A...

windborne grey frogs (dowd), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

so Bendtner should have had a penalty it seems

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

bendtner close to getting a pen there imo

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck if christian poulsen scores i'm giving up football

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

BENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

GET THE FUCK IN!

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

If denmark score 2 it could go to co-efficients I think. Lol.

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

don't think C. Poulsen is playing tbf. Not that it matters now

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

His brother's marking of Bender on the goal was atrocious.

boxall, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Fair play having the RB score on the counter when you're protecting a result.

He just came on number none.

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Oof, bit unlucky vdv

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Nearly a beaut

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

oops, there is too many of them though

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Has huntelaar done anything in a game and a half btw?

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

He's always been crap when he's not scoring goals

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

-IK - yes, Ukraine! I knew there was another one.

windborne grey frogs (dowd), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

granted I've been flipping channels but I didn't realise RVP was even on until just now

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

So gorgeous from Portugal

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

where's van persie even playing? i've seen him more in defence than anywhere else.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

also, ronaldo is quite good.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

only turns up against the shit teams tbf

Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Almost Francelike from the Dutch.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'm wondering if a Germany-Portugal final might be a shout?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

dunno, portugal playing against a team with no midfield tonight and not as strong at the back this tourney as I expected.

pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

van marwijk is a reet

huntelaar was toilet, rvp wasted on the wing second half, sneijder shoved out to the left in the first (being able to cut in from the left does not = inside forward)

there was about 30 yards between the midfield and forwards the whole time

so bad

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

lol Chiles accusing Keano of 'man love' for Ronaldo

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm surprised he managed a half smile after that

it's true though, when he isn't play for real madrid ronaldo can be great to watch

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

For Holland it was a case of old habits coming back...Portugal look good but hard to tell with what they had to play with.

Probably edge the Czechs.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

The look of unadulterated hate on Keane's face at that point was highly amusing.

Both Portugal and Germany look like shoo-ins for the semis really. Holland = wastemen.

Matt DC, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

indeed

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

agger was great in all 3 games.

i liked roy keane calling out carra's 'nonsense' re. his views on ronaldo.

Chris, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Ooh, MLS on ESPN!

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, since when were you over here? I miss these things sometimes.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

(the UK variant of ESPN)

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Clarity.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

i hope nigel de jong told raul meireles to go get his trucker cap after he flattened him that time

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

Two journalists asked the Dutch coach the same question after the match:

TV guy Jack (who didn't ask the previous coach after a lost game this question and then that coach announced he quit to another journalist, minutes later) : "and now, can you stay on as coach?"

Van Marwijk: "jack, don't ask me that, ten minutes after a game like this"

Press conference, half an hour later, other Dutch dude: "can you stay on as the coach of this team now?"

Van Marwijk: "your friend Jack already asked me that - or isn't he your friend? Oh yeah, you don't have a lot of those, do you"

(ok, it's sad and painful and stuff, but this was funny)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

the previous dutch coach was marco van basten, though

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

a previous coach, then. That wasn't the detail I remembered, sorry

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

(It was probably a player who quit, even. The point is, that was his justification: last time I didn't ask this question and the scoop went to another journalist, minutes after my interview)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

raul meireles just doesn't have the legs to pull off the baggy shorts look.

Chris, Sunday, 17 June 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

What I thought was more interesting about the post-match interviews of Holland was:

- The same Jack StanM mentions (a dinosaur Dutch footy presenter) had declared on "reliable sources" that the Dutch medical staff member got into a fight with one of the players, as in a fist-fight. Said doctos rushed to the studio in a fury to deny it. So it's probably true.
- Robben admitting "things happened that should remain untold and secret" in the squad
- Sneijder and Van Persie wanting to kill each other again.

I for one can't wait for the documentary in ten years.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 June 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link

so if i have this right, for group C:

Italy need to win to get even a place
If Croatia and Spain draw, Italy need to win by 3 goals?

If Croatia win, Italy need to win by 5 goals?

If Spain win, Italy just need a win

Yes?

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 18 June 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link

ugh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012#Group_stage

caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:37 (eleven years ago) link

if croatia draw 0-0 and italy win 2-0 then they are level on GD and goals scored, which means italy go through because they have a higher uefa ranking. same if croatia draw 1-1 and italy win 3-1, croatia draw 2-2, italy win 4-2, etc.

i think.

caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

No xp, an Italy win puts them through unless Spain and Croatia draw 2-2 or higher

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

am i reading those rules right: the game between the two teams is the first tie-breaker, then GD. and isn't it usually the other way around?

caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah the game between the two is the tie-breaker. It's how Greece went through.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:45 (eleven years ago) link

Can someone explain the 2-2 draw thing though? Would Spain and Croatia go through on goals scored? What happens if Italy put seven or eight past Ireland?

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link

No matter how big a win against the Irish, a 2-2 draw (or higher score draw) in the other group game between Spain and Croatia will ensure the Italians head home early - this because head-to-head records come into play when two or more countries finish level on points. Italy's 1-1 draw with both nations would therefore be seen as the weaker result.

caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:54 (eleven years ago) link

special rules for 3-way tie

caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:54 (eleven years ago) link

It'd be a three-way head-to-head is the way to look at it. Italy currently have two 1-1s, Spain and Croatia have one each. That's why a 2-2 tonight puts them both through.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:02 (eleven years ago) link

Would like Italy to go through but would also like Ireland to win the game. Hmmm.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

You could always cheer loudly for Spain & Croatia to field ineligible players.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:19 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait for germany vs greece. batter of the euro, 2012

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 18 June 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

battle

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 18 June 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

euro in batter

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

platini wieners in blatter batter

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

batter the neville you know

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:02 (eleven years ago) link

croatia and spain are my favourite sides

hopefully they draw 2-2 and italy lose to ireland

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

FIRST

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

Italy to beat Ireland 3-0, Spain to draw 2-2 with Croatia (two goals coming in the last five minutes).

Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 18 June 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

which game should I watch?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

Right now I'm watching Spain-Croatia.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

HRAVSTKA

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

that was my pick too. Just because Spain can be sublime.

xpost

EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

Spain-Croatia because there's elimination definitely at stake there, unless there isn't in which case switch over for the laughs.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Del Bosque just described as 'avuncular.' Um.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

croatia to win, italy draw for maximum lols

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

italy to lose

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

don't think spain 2012 will be able to crank out the 1-0's like spain 2010

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

italy have been v v underwhelming so far. no balotelli - as good as di natale is in the 6 yard box, he doesn't exactly add any creativity. more of a trad back 4 too, which is rubb considering they are playing a p inneffective attacking team.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

DON'T FUCKING KICK IT OUT UNLESS THE REF TELLS YOU TO

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

how hard is that? seriously

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

ha i was just going to say how great closeups of xavis raptor eyes at fks are

he is just an incredible player, tempted to say the best general football intelligence i have ever seen (assuming there is such a thing and noting that messi and iniesta have sharper instincts in the final quarter of the pitch)

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Spain could do with Cesc on so that they have someone other than just Nando prepared to get in the box imo.

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

Great break for Ireland but how the hell can mcgeady make that mistake?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

is that a trick question?

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland looking more game than usual.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

pen surely

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

maybe not

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Ramos is a fucker.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

was it pique who went diving in at the halfway line to cause that?

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

he is just an incredible player, tempted to say the best general football intelligence i have ever seen (assuming there is such a thing and noting that messi and iniesta have sharper instincts in the final quarter of the pitch)

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:09 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is it me or is it a kinda new thing to laud players on how intelligent their play is? xavi, schweini, iniesta, pirlo, modric etc. are most probably better regarded than robben, ribery, rooney, maybe even the whole real attack despite these players being more 'exciting'.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

close from di natale

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

nice while it lasted

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

italy score

caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

In?

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Yes. Given is fucked

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

yup

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

who scored? i turned over to bbc1

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

What happened there? Couldn't tell on the other channel.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

cassano header

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

In off Given? In off the bar?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Given conceded the corner with a fumble from a routine shot then flailed uselessly at the header for the goal

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

No shit fucking Mick McCarthy he has given a yellow for making a dude bleed, regardless of how soft the foul initially looked. If you look at a tackle and think its fine and then notice that someone's been shawx, you don't have to go with your initial instincts.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

in off given then cleared from over the line onto the bar i think

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

is it me or is it a kinda new thing to laud players on how intelligent their play is?

ha, they've been doing this since Teddy Sheringham at least

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

oh sure but now it seems like an important 'thing' that seems to be evaluated all throughout football and not just with one or two barren examples

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

I think in less enlightened times it was a concession that what Sheringham was doing was still football. There are more players with games not purely based around heads-down running nowadays.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

Your search - fuckyeahgordonschildenfeld tumblr - did not match any documents.

r|t|c, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a secret stream for this? My work computer won't let me see ESPN3.

Virginia Plain, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

is it me or is it a kinda new thing to laud players on how intelligent their play is? xavi, schweini, iniesta, pirlo, modric etc. are most probably better regarded than robben, ribery, rooney, maybe even the whole real attack despite these players being more 'exciting'.

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, June 18, 2012 8:20 PM (16 minutes ago)

that is a sort of counterintuitive bias that you will find in a lot of football writing that favours players who run games over those that decide them

the worst example of this i've seen is ppl averring that alonso is more important to madrid than ronaldo

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

That demonic trailer for Rooney a minute ago - did they get him all dressed up & posing for about five seconds of film, or is it all cgi or what? How do footballers' schedules work?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

FTW: Would it be too clichéd to suggest that you played as a False number nine when you played?

MC: Actually I was generally used as a right midfielder. I would have preferred to have been a central midfielder but I was never as physical as some players. In fact I think one of the reasons I love Michael Carrick is that if my ability was anywhere near that level, that’s the type of player I’d have been. He’s not the most physical but he reads the game so well. Unfortunately, I was normally shunted out to the right instead.

http://footballthisweekend.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/big-interview-michael-cox-of-zonal.html

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, June 18, 2012 8:43 PM (2 minutes ago)

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

this could end up working out nicely for England

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

the angle makes Moyes look like he should be signing this

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

fuck hansen et al apologizing for shay given

he has been fucking dogshit this tournament, ireland might even have had a chance of not being a total embarassment if he didn't concede retarded goals at the beginning of every half

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

he's probably not fully fit but it's his own fault for not saying something

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i've read that and if it's true he is a disgrace

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

i'll be charitable and just assume he's too old, his reflexes have gone and he is playing terribly

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

he's not the best on the ball but spain should still occasionally pass to arbeloa when he's in acres of space out wide level with the penalty area.

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

It's not much of a match but it's still quite gripping. I could see Spain screwing this up yet, there's got to be a chance coming sometime.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

this kind of situation is croatia's best bet

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

Nice trivela cross.

boxall, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Gawd, that was it!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

wow

mizzell, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

fucking modric that is amazing

sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

like to see navas come on, not sure who would come off though, it's usually silva but he's been good

oof, great chance lovely from modric.

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

he's not the best on the ball but spain should still occasionally pass to arbeloa when he's in acres of space out wide level with the penalty area

both him and alba look like they're offering interesting options out wide, but spain seem to be determined to stick with the ineffectual 10m wide attacking line.

saaaave.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

well he's on but now has no-one to cross too. hm

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

not quite a sitter but rakitic should've scored there

sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

spain are there for the taking

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

srna and perisic taking the gareth bale magical go faster stripes to new extremes

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

well he's on but now has no-one to cross to

Yeah that passage with him cutting up & down the touchline and no outball was hopeless

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

they shd play the barcelona midfield three with silva and navas either side of torres

kind of feel xabi is there for political reasons to some extent

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

agreed

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

spain haven't got anyone on the pitch likely to score imo. Should get cesc on. I really think croatia will score and tbh spain wouldn't be hard done by.

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Why not Llorente? I know Cesc has scored once from deep but it's not like having a forward-forward on.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

i just assume torres is the only CF who is going to get any playing time

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

yeah playing both xavi and xabi alonso doesn't even make sense in theory

sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland looking vaguely dangerous

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

lol i forgot mata was even in the squad

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

del bosque has fucked up today

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

spain leaving themselves short handed at the back is madness

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

i wouldn't say Italy are holding on exactly but...

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

shoot FFS

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

that was pathetic

sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

the worst elements of arsenal

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

omg Spain, ffs FFS FFS

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

actually arsenal aren't usually this bad

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

So often they do that, get in behind then turn back to ensure possession instead. Busquets' is only the most criminal example.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

not quite sure why spain do high corners into the box when they don't have puyol.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland have now fielded all five of their strikers in this game. Some of them even played up front

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

i guess i'm not a football sophisticate because this no CF thing isn't my thing*

*unless it's messi

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

D'oh.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Navas not offside?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

on the other hand they DID walk it in

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah thought he was off

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

nope

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Great, great movement from Iniesta. He did well not turning back there.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

um, surely Navas was "active" there

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

can i say how much i love players booting it in as hard as possible when clean through on the goalline?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

nearly off nearly handball

hrvatska have been impressive tho

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Keith Andrews has gone.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

and Keith Andrews just got sent off

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

It's up to you now, Ireland

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

now that's how you tap in a tap-in

r|t|c, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

if croatia equalise are they through? On goals scored vs Ireland?

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

rocket into the roof of the net from navas.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Mario!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Lovely from Mario.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

WOW

gyac, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

haha now he brings on a striker

mizzell, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

negredo is more talented than llorente imo

better scoring record for spain too

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Keith Andrews can get fucked as well.

gyac, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

MARIO

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

O'Shea should have been sent off long ago

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

lol at O'Shea still gripping his shirt after it's already gone in

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

o'shea still holding mario's shirt even after he's scored the goal lol
xp

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

"it's lastminute.com" oh fucking die mark bright

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

I feel for Croatia, this was the real nightmare group

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Navas was definitely offside

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

lol lineker"it would have been so easy for them 20 mins from the end to say right let's have 2-2" REALLY?

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

thought he was behind iniesta when the ball came to him

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

He was offside when Iniesta was played through, but had got back onside when Iniesta squared it to him.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

yard offside

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

does offside apply to the iniesta pass

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

the first pass didn't come to him so not 'active'. Onside

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

i'm talking about the initial pass. It's a fucking disgrace

Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

see 20 million van nistelroy goals
xp

pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

The 2005 edition of the Laws of the Game included a new International Football Association Board decision that stated being "nearer to an opponent's goal line" meant that "any part of his head, body or feet is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent (the last opponent typically being the goalkeeper). The arms are not included in this definition."[2] This is taken to mean that any part of the attacking player named in this decision has to be past the part of the second-last defender closest to his goal line (excluding the arms) and past the part of the ball closest to the defenders' goal line.

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

Lime green not Moysey's colour

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

wasnt only navas' trailing leg onside

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

ha, not the most dignified of red cards

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

is this the best place for the fantasy league updates? 19 points clear, may never get this good again.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 18 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

dynamo sad grebs is making me lol right now.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 18 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Gutted for Croatia, that Modric pass midway through the second half was beautiful. Someone should sign him.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

chelsea will

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 18 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

Were Spain terrible today or just playing for a draw?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 18 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

They weren't terrible, I don't think, it's just how they do things. They'll come to grief eventually if they don't get a bit more direct. They were so much better with Torres.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

convinced england are gonna win this.

modric was laughably good wasn't he.

Chris, Monday, 18 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

the weakness spain showed today was tactical/defensive

they can score with a 4-6-0, they played it vs scotland with silva as withdrawn cf and scored three times, they scored vs italy and they scored today (just about)

introducing navas into that formation was a bit strange but he does provide an outlet behind the defence and nobody else apart from torres (and sometimes pedro) can do that

the breaks that allowed croatia's best chances midway through the second half showed a serious lack of cohesion

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

xabi is obviously an estimable character and an excellent player and his presence presumably reassures casillas (a bit flaky) ramos (angry retard) and arbeloa (????) but he plays at a different pace to the rest of the midfield -- he is at his best receiving from the defence, taking a touch or two and hitting a throughball or a 20 yard pass out to the flanks

if they removed him and played a more orthodox 4-3-3 they could play a forward line reminiscent of pre-2009 barcelona, with torres making similar runs to eto'o, silva providing a playmaking cut-inside option and pedro or navas a touchline winger on the other flank

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

you're only active if the ball comes/is coming to you or is intended for you?

4-6-0 is the TMFD formation ne plus ultra

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

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dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

“We lost because we done too much fanny dangle,” Dave Bassett once fumed

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

hmmn i don't think it's a bad option to have -- del bosque started experimenting with it when villa was effectively ruled out and torres was might as well have been, leaving a load of strikers either unproven or not quite good enough (soldado) or unsuitable for the team

playing against a side with a lack of collective intelligence and difficulties tracking runners between the lines, it can be quite dangerous

torres presumably did enough vs ireland to start in the quarter final and he should remain first-choice

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

can't be arsed to scroll back to the discussion of the second worse refereeing of the tournament, but i doubt it wd've altered the outcome. linesman shd be sacked tho but

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

england have simply got to win this group, the fixtures will be dreary as shit otherwise

has eng-ita really not happened in a decade?

http://www.englandstats.com/matches.php?mid=787

r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

Did anyone see a possession stat for the Spain game?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link

62/38 according to http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18181161

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 05:53 (eleven years ago) link

Spain's unwillingness to go for direct penetration is frustrating. I've seen a lot of people, during last night's game, and two years ago at the World Cup, say they find Spain really boring and stifling, but I find real pleasure in watching their movement patterns, the deftness of touch. Xabi makes no sense in the team though; I'd have Fabregas in ahead of him, play Fab with Silva, just off Torres, and then Xavi, Iniesta, and Biscuits in a revolving triangle in the middle.

Spain are lucky they've got a keeper as good as Casillas; he made two extraordinary saves last night which effectively kept them in the competition.

If we meet them on Saturday, and I have a suspicion that we won't, I think they'll stifle and boss and outclass us, and win 1-0. But I think we might win the group...

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:34 (eleven years ago) link

we had a pool at work for dis btw, a $5 pool and a $2 pool

i drew netherlands for the $5 pool and denmark for the $2 pool

in summary, i no longer give a shit about this tournament

Gentlemen Take Instagram Photos (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:39 (eleven years ago) link

I thought the linesman's call looked right but I haven't looked at it again since the replay. Didn't make any difference anyway, Croatia needed a goal to put Spain out regardless of whether it finished 1-0 to them or 1-1 and they didn't get it.

Bilic very nearly got his tactics right but if anything Croatia were too disciplined towards the end, they weren't prepared to go for it until very late on, after the goal even.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 08:53 (eleven years ago) link

Am I right in thinking that as long as France don't lose by more than one goal they are definitely through tonight?

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

Think so - the only way France could conceivably in trouble is if Sweden win convincingly and Ukraine win and top the group. England just need to not lose and they're through.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:20 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus was definitely ahead of the last defender when Fabregas played the ball to Iniesta, and was level when Iniesta played the ball to him. Whether he was technically offside, due to being active or inactive or whatever, is one of those things that everyone's going to disagree on. My gut instrinct at the time was that Spain were VERY lucky to be allowed the goal, both for Iniesta's shoulder-control and Jesus being active when fabregas played the ball to Iniesta.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:20 (eleven years ago) link

I think they can lose by one and go out on goals scored if England also lose by one, but otherwise I think that's right.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:21 (eleven years ago) link

they have a better goal diff than england at the moment tho right? By +1?

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link

thx mate

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

MINI-LEAGUE

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

i was convinced last night was going to be spain 2 - 2 croatia .. at 15-1 was worth a pop? or was i a fool?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

i was deffo a fool when at 43 mins i put £2 on the same score thinking i was getting 240-1, then realised after betting it was for half-time score.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, UEFA dropped the hammer on Bendy to the tune of £80,000! Didn't realize their fines went that high, or is that only when they're dealing with Associations rather than players?

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw my call for tonight

england draw with ukraine
france beat sweden.

PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

(zzzz)

PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

they reckon paddy power will foot the bill for n.b. anyway

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

240-1 for four goals in two minutes isn't very generous! You want to change bookies imo. That Victor seems like a smashing fellow, he'd see you right.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

england draw with ukraine
france beat sweden.

that's how i'd call it

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

figure England would have a marginally better shout against Italy than against Spain if they get thru. wouldn't even be slightly shocked if Ukraine win tonight tho.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:13 (eleven years ago) link

Italy were so bad last night

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

although i guess Spain weren't great either

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

this is all relative tho

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

i think England will beat Ukraine though

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

Goal of the tournament so far - the Balotelli one? Theo?

send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

hoping he drops Carroll and plays Rooney off Wellbeck. Ukraine's backline looks pretty porous but our midfield is still o_O. tbf, having Young on the left and Milner on the right mightn't be as limiting with Rooney who won't rely on having proper wingers the way Carroll does.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

definitely not Walcott. It was a deflection/fluke

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

gott - Ronaldo's second v Netherlands

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

Just trying to think of shots from outside the box that have actually gone in. xp

send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

Mario's was v. nice, that second Gomez goal against the Netherlands was pretty tasty too.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

I think i liked Di Natale against Spain the best. Or Ronaldo the other night

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

The Polish one v Russia was a screamer

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

Kuba's for Poland vs Russia was a good thump.
Gomez first vs Holland my fav, tho RVP/VDV both got nice goals this tourney, shame they didn't get more of them mind.

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

The Polish's guy's left-footer on the run was very sweet.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

Debating whether to bother watching the games live tonight. I've been having to split my sleep in 2 sections for the duration of the Euros so far and it's really not working. Feel like tonights games will be routine. Still I'd hate not to witness bonkers events live should bonkers events happen.

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

I liked wellbeck's flying aerial backheel, that's gotta be top 10. xp

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

England are winning in two categories though - best header and best improvisation

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

There's potential for a French and/or English meltdown. Recommended viewing tonight imo.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

Given wins best header surely?
xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

haven't we suffered enough?

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland are going to sweep the "worst" categories tbfttl

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

Nah that's Holland's to win.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

If this were a 24-team tourney you'd only be ninth-worst atbf

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

thumbs up to holland imo, did exactly what they're there at tournaments to do, it's just unfortunate they kept it relatively in-house is all

r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

I'd thought the Italians might be this tournament's big team to implode, given the Serie A situation, but they clearly don't give a fuck.

Our work sweepstake has an prize for 'worst team' as well as winner and runner-up. Not looked at the stats yet, but Ireland lost all three and conceeded more than the Dutch, right?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, -8gd v -3gd. Ignoring stats, I think Holland were more pathetic, though.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:02 (eleven years ago) link

Goal of the tournament so far:
1) Polish one on the break v Russia
2) Balotelli overhead kick
3) Welbeck incredible trailing foot thing

Tonight:
France 1 Sweden 1
Ukraine 3 England 3

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

One less goal to Ukraine and I agree.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

England will beat Ukraine tonight - crushing underdogs' dreams is the one thing England do reliably well. I think France may well lose to Sweden though; I don't think they'd be particularly fussed about facing Italy rather than Spain.

My dad's in Kiev for the Italy QF, I feel it ought to be against England tbh.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

Pav's goal against the Czechs was pretty sweet.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

crushing underdogs' England fans' dreams is the one thing England do reliably well

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

if england lose is it possible for us to still go through?

PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

Only if France lose by 2 goals more than England do, or lose by one goal more but end the group with less goals scored than England

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

Dunphy: “There’s another feature of today that is unique, it’s an honour for Liam to be sitting in between two former Millwall footballers – and it’s not often two former Millwall footballers appear on television.”

Sadlier: “Privileged.”

Brady: “Where do Millwall ex players usually appear? In the dock?”

Maloney: “We’d like to distance ourself from those remarks – and so would Liam.”

brady's best ever zing? can't wait for video of this to emerge.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

I was wondering if you were referring to Brady or Dunphy as 'The Master' when it appeared in the other thread.

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

Sweden give even less of a fuck than France, especially with Ibra saying he really doesn't care too much about the group now they're knocked out. Schevchenko is done, although I'll never underestimate England's love of basic defensive screw-ups.

England 2-1 Ukraine
France 2-0 Sweden

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'd thought the Italians might be this tournament's big team to implode, given the Serie A situation, but they clearly don't give a fuck.

Last time something like this happened Italy went on to win the World Cup. Corruption scandals are clearly good for Italian football.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link

also Rossi returning from his ban to be a hero. The lads there's a weight off their shoulders now that it's all out in the open.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

there's always a corruption scandal in italian football.

mizzell, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:10 (eleven years ago) link

yah, it's not as if the national team only performs well in the aftermath of a corruption scandal it's more that going into practically every tournament there is a corruption scandal.

pandemic, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

I thought this one might be SO BIG that it'd break the camel's back, though. But clearly not!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

They can't win it anyway, cos Cassano's wasn't born on the day they last won it, or something. (Didn't he say some shit about the 2006 WC win regardcuing that? That it was his destiny?)

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

he's born the day after the 82 win iirc

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

Aha.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

i`m starting a trap deathwatch who`s in?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

What's he thinking in there?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

So there are actually people looking forward to seeing Roo-ful on the pitch tonight? Ugh.

I hope Hodgson sticks to his guns. Carroll (cunt) scored, Welbeck scored. Why bring in fucking Rooney? I for one can't stand the sight of the guy.

Gutted for Croatia, that Modric pass midway through the second half was beautiful. Someone should sign him.

― Matt DC, Monday, June 18, 2012 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ This so OTM. Modric played some sprawling football last night. That pass out of which [croationname] should have scored was orgasmic.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

It's written in the stars amirite

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

44 games and 35 goals this season, 28 in 74 for England, scares the shit out of opposition defenders, strong, great technique, great vision and awareness, works his heart out for the team, best player in the country, that kind of thing.

xposts.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

No I know Nick. But you know, he sucks.

Don't mind me, but he's the Robben of England, the rotten apple imho.

I wish there could exist and England without Terry and Rooney. It could have been so nice.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

great technique, great vision = no....

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

some games yes, others no

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

i really shouldn't have said anything though

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

he is pretty good technically, sure, but great technique suggests rvp or benzema or something

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

in terms of shooting yeah, he's generally appalling

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

just general technique

rvp>>>>>>>balotelli>>benzema>>>rooney>>>>>>>gomez>>huntelaar>>>lewandowski

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

when he's on though, i would say he's a better passer than any of them (including crosses, which he's surprisingly excellent at)

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

I was only really trotting out those superlatives in relation to anyone else in our squad...

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Very harsh on Lewy, he's much better at link-up play and through balls than Gomez imo. Have you seen him play for Dortmund much?

boxall, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

rvp is better imo but you don't see it so often when he plays as a #9

rooney better than the rest probably yeah....although passing is about vision as much as skill

anyway as i much as i detest this england team, the chance to play a successful, established forward line consisting of two actual football players (in the sense other countries might recognise) in welbeck and rooney, is one of the only things in their favour

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

haven't paid too much attention to his defending but i've liked the look of gebre selassie going forward.

Chris, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

i really shouldn't have said anything though

― Number None, Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:21 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, this probably goes more for me....

*backs away slowly*

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

No Sheva tonight :-(

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

Big sadface.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

Generally I'll rep for Rooney but I'm abstaining tonight after his pre-match spotify fiasco:

Deacon Blue – Real Gone Kid
Arctic Monkeys – Riot Van
Stereophonics – Maybe Tomorrow
Bon Jovi – It's My Life
Various Artists - Oasis Tribute – Champagne Supernova (Cover Version)
Cat Stevens – Father And Son
Damien Rice – Delicate
James Morrison – Up
Eric Clapton – Tears In Heaven
Bruce Springsteen – Streets Of Philadelphia
The Hummingbirds – Doesn't Really Matter

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

That's either the playlist of someone who hates playing for England and is fucking miserable or someone who's about to flip and needs the calm the fuck down beforehand. Or both.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

Makes one wonder about the secret powers of 'Tears in Heaven'. Maybe that's what gets him up in the morning, drives him to score goals etc. Too awkward...

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

The idea of JT rousing the troops to a soundtrack of 'Tears In Heaven' is one I like.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

:-)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

those official player escorts look somewhat younger than twp's usuals

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Official player escorts" means something VERY different to John Terry, right?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

superb gratuitous pendant shot there

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine look terrified, England one up within five minutes imo

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

tyldesley tempting fate with 'the whole game live'

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

That last part of the Ukrainian anthem was the bonus "Fuck yeah the Russians are out" verse.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

i only heard about rooney's stereophonics tattoo today ewww

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

They deserve each other.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

loved that Ukraine anthem

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

błaszczykowski błaszczykowski błaszczykowski

y'all some sky 4 charlies

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

this is pretty rough so far

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

England wide open despite this cagey formation.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

england have more in common with ireland than any other team here

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

why did this have to be on ITV

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

PART OF THE TEAM BANTUH

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

you know the game's shite when they're name-checking kit men and physios

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

idk if the game is shite, england are shite

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

as much joy as I'd get from an England exit, this right-back-wearing-#9 thing Ukraine have got going on is bothering me and makes them difficult to watch.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

Blokhin's weathered face really detracts from his quite superb hair

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

ukraine have that quintessential soviet bloc precision and flanking movements without really being coldblooded enough

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

I suppose if we sigh at Ukraine's overhit Hollywood balls and 30 yard snapshots they'll immediately score from one

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

idk if the game is shite, england are shite

Good point well made, Ukraine playing with purpose and what looks like a good strategy so far.

Wazza's half dozen bad touches to this point make me think he's either going to cunt one into the top corner from nothing or kick someone up the arse and get sent off. No middle ground.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

selin will have looked rodrigo palacio and he will have thought that the genoa man has lovely hair

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

"he looks hungry"

he always looks hungry

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Milevsky and Devic have 10 goals between them in 74 internationals. There's not really much threat without Sheva.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

sheva is as good as retired next month, u can be sure he will be on by 70mins or so

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine do get it forward fast & on the ground, I like that

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

They don't seem to know what defending crosses is about though

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

it's about bigness, and about passion

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

it takes a nation of bigs to hold Roo back

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

It's about marking more like, that's shocking

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Good move, poor finish

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

big andy woulda stuck that one in any day of the week he would've.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

he would of

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Gerrard's crossing from dead balls has been very good in this tournament - nice low trajectory, giving very little time for defenders to adjust.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Struggling to see the point of James Milner.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

provides a useful distractionary target for supporters' vitriol when more feted players are being similarly useless

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

gerrard is not a midfielder but as long as welbeck gets four touches per half, his crossfield passes / crosses / setpieces probably justify wor andy's inclusion

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

James Milner is there to make Theo's impact more impactful.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

in the land of the waste, the 6'4 wasteman is king

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Iain Macintosh ‏@iainmacintosh

Remember, the more frustrated Rooney gets, the deeper he drops. He'll be in Poland for the second half.

DX Dx DX (dan m), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Is anybody watching France-Sweden?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

this is the worst group, all teams should go out. send russia and croatia to the qfs instead.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

andy carroll would have fucking buried that header that roo missed

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

xxp i am. france are shit tbh. sweden sort of trying.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Nearly a Ricky Villa.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine are a few less bloodrushed heads away from being v likeable I think, as it is they're just vaguely annoying

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

thought iarmolenko was going for the full ricky villa on that one ha xxp!

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

lol at scott parker crawling like the knave he is

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.minus.com/ibzRwvFsA0s9L7.gif

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

That Scott Parker contortionism was great. If Iarmolenko was thinking fast he should've just touched it into Parker's midriff, he wouldn't've been able to avoid a double handball.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

chiles is just

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Ha xp, love it!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

ray winstone's dialogue with raimondo >>>>>> engerlund

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

An England match brings out the cream of adverts all right

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

i quite like raimondo at this point

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

does van Persie have a choice about appearing in that Mars thing?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

that ribéry gif, it looks like he's saying va te faire enculer (direct translation would be go get assfucked). what a delightful player .....

Jibe, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

keeping Rooney on to give him match practice for the QF ffs

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Makes perfect sense that Tymo would be the joker in the Bayern dressing room really, most of them seem pretty dour.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

He is an avid collector of wines, t-shirts, and icons.[33]

boxall, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

hows it going in the other game?

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

First time I ever went up Brick Lane there was a shop with a huge collection of icons, £12 each xp. I've always regretted not going to town.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

Ah fuck.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Well there ya go.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

My mind turns to wondering how Ukraine are going to lose this ... ah ffs

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

WOULD ROO BELIEVE IT

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

that fucking keeper

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

That would've been an all-time Nostradamus post if I'd started it ten seconds earlier

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

keeper's fucking rubbish there

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Carroll would've missed that

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Welbeck's tiny touch made a huge difference there, but still

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

the white stripes will be spinning in their graves

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Gerrard did really well for that goal

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

These Ukraine corners are crying out for Shevchenko.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

what a pass that is from gerrard

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

IBRA WONDERGOAL

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Agbonlahor would've scored that

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

holy fuck ibra !

Jibe, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Are itv not going to show it, then?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised Rooney couldn't get across his man there - clear foul at the end though.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

nice from ibrahimovic

is this his last game for sweden?

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

fukken ITV

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

worst channel

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

no ibra will continue after this. possibly the last game for mellberg though.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

mellberg will be missed

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

I've turned over now, France appear to be getting a raking

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

damn sweden starting this 2nd half very well

Jibe, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah mellberg, along with zlatan, has been the only decent player this tournament. and he almost scored again just now.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-45yzi8.gif

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta score that

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

wow

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

xp

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking John Terry.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

Half-an-hour more like this please.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

Don't think it was over

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

bastard hero terry cunt.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

I'm wrong

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNTS

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

a mile over!

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

That was in.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

well over

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

lol

mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

hard to see when they're in the air like that tho

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

so i guess that cancels out the Lampard one then?

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

lol fings even aaart dunt they

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

proper game now at least

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

That's the end of the extra officials on the line then.

AlanSmithee, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Certainly the end of that one.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

wtactualf at the goalline dude not seeing that

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Andy Townsend otm, you've got to credit John Terry for the way he didn't keep that out.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking Davic cutting back & letting Terry back to cover tbh

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol at the weasel words of the "commentators"

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

why stand on the line and not one ball's width over it

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol onimo

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

NN otm inasmuch as that's as laughable as a lino a few yards in front of the line not seeing Lampard's

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

john terry, what a guy.

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Heroic/jammy clearance aside Terry's being caught out frequently in this match.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

it looked like it was over from the initial camera angle

if the linesman is so shit that he can't really tell, the benefit remains with the defender

still

cunts

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

how did the keeper save that, his positioning was fucking awful

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp nah Terry's played pretty well [insert standard Terry hatred statement here]

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

Theo will end this

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

Farce. Fuck football until they get competent refs.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

the little giggle fro tyldsley when he saw it looked in. tbf i've just seen 2 replays and i'm not really sure it was 100% over.

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

It looks in but that's only cos of the way that the light is refracted by the net.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, a marginal offside call is the same thing

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

mcmanaman also praising terry for not keeping that ball out

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

fuck ITV

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

zlatan's goal was an overhead kick from the edge of the box?!!

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

wait i was zoned out a bit there and tuned back in to hear tyldsley say 'justice has been done'. what was that cockroach on about?

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

cockroach tyldesley was suggesting milevskiy was offside

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

bicycle tbf xp

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

lol joe hart is just awful

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

shakespeare tyldesley of cockroach england

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

if I was Ukraine I'd be off home to my bed right now

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

twpyatov

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

wait i was zoned out a bit there and tuned back in to hear tyldsley say 'justice has been done'. what was that cockroach on about?

Ukrainian collaborationism in 1941 iirc

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine has not yet perished (and we're not going to bed either)

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Rooney only appears able to be jump about 6" off the ground.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

England can lose 2-1 and will still go through, do the honourable thing here

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

it's like that weave is weighing him down

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

if england somehow manage to top this group it will be a bigger sham than the czechs topping theirs.

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

It is a shit, shit group tbf

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Superb slow-mo!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

ha, that Carroll comment is word for word what they used to say about Crouch

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised at Rooney getting the full 90 - he's been struggling since about 70 mins.

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

FortROOnute!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

tROO The Eye Of The Needle!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

france miss sitter

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

ROO '66!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

brilliant slo-mo of Parker getting skelped

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

parker is the new hans moleman ive said it already

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

eventually it will become a thing to be disowned

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised at Rooney got getting the full 90 to get his fitness up :P

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

EUROO 2012

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

http://cadfael.tv/image/src/1340134374112.gif

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

No results found for "the hapless scott parker"

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Caroll's falling over actually to England's benefit there

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

fucking ROOseless keeper

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

these gratuitous closeups of women in the crowd is p damn cynical at this point

some uefa apparatchik must be shouting at every director

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

You get a lot of that on some countries' league broadcasts, esp Spanish and Portugese ime.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

2-0 sweden. there you go.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

lol

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

now for England getting humped by Italy

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

parker is the new hans moleman ive said it already

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:29 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

might be the new Jeff Astle if he keeps on like this :/

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

xp every serie a half-time break is basically just the cameraman looking for hot chicks

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Pity Sweden were out already, any show of spirit ought to be rewarded here

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

obligatory call to bring back Dom

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Parker gif reminding me of
http://gifsoup.com/view/983510/john-terry-diving-block-o.gif

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

god i had forgotten about the concept of england fans.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

definitely onimo, not quite in the same class though

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

classy stuff, Roy and Oleg

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

"scott parker" "body on the line"

About 132,000 results (0.30 seconds)

"What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

I hope Andriy's just saying 'You cunt. You cunt. You cunt.'

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

ROOby Tuesday!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Wtf are Peugeot thinking?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Spain vs Germany final...

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Said we'd top the group.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Wtf are Peugeot thinking?

I didn't understand that advert at all.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

Wife was v perplexed. Think it's indie-fear-of-middle-of-body thing.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo to win it all

Number None, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

carra: "pleased for the lads... who play for liverpool, and also the manager".

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

I liked you on motd2 and working lunch, Chiles

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

i tolerated him on motd2 and sort of liked him on business lunch

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

Poor Gabriel Clarke. His Benn-McClellan documentary was quite good.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

Keane only just keeping a lid on it you feel

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

Are they ever going to show the Sweden goals?

if, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Did the game involve England?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

xp hoping for a Keane kill crazy rampage any time now

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

Southgate reaching Claridge-esque heights of third-wheeling. ITV must be be praying they can find some way of getting Keane and Carragher together again in future, cos they could run with them for years like this.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

I was looking at the Gazzetta dello Sport website yesterday (after Italy had gone through) and there was a comment from one Italian that he'd rather face France than England as England's style of football was too similar to Italy's. What do you make of that?

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, have ITV ever had Keane, Chiles and Townsend together in the same studio? I'm pretty certain there'd be blood.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

italy are a bit crap but they're not like england, nobody is like england except for ireland and maybe sweden

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

Chiles would get eaten.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

Greece?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

hodgson still got so much dignity, despite terry, despite england

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

Roy's tells are excellent:

Q: "[question about Rooney]"
A: "He played well" *scratches eyebrow*

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

Allegedly the Ukraine manager challenged a reporter to a fight outside the stadium not once but twice.

DX Dx DX (dan m), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds like him.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

big lulz how the F did we win this group haha

PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Meanwhile, I'd missed all this:

http://espnfc.com/us/en/news/1108121/ubha-advance-.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ukraine totally got fucked tonight though, it bears repeating.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

wait. it was TWO nil to Sweden? lol my pub.

PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Better to be shit and qualify then play beautiful football for a game and a half and choke when it matters, I suppose.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

big lulz how the F did we win this group haha

I don't see France or England winning their next match tbh

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

England might win it in the way that mediocre Premiership teams beat better ones, Italy aren't that great. Spain will probably beat France but it's not a foregone conclusion.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

Italy France Spain England

They've all had a couple of moments this tourney interspersed with dull ness and hesitation. I'm bummed about the hosts being out, especially Poland, and Russia messing up. Maybe its the lack of regular play together or maybe its the relative quality of the teams generally but, except for Germany who look pretty confident and pretty happy, no-one looks more likely to take it all. It might come down to a Ronaldo or someone.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

germany looked pretty crap in the last game also tbf

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

england playing in a manner that suits them tbh, it could take them further. italy no great shakes. rooney scoring a tap-in winner despite being the worst player on the pitch (maybe in the stadium tbh) just seemed inevitable. if woy drops him for the next game he will already be the second best england manager ever.

worth repeating that the ukraine `goal` came from a ridiculously bad offside call.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link

my predictions for work sweepstake (at full time, not AET/pens)

czech rep 0 - 1 portugal
germany 2 - 0 greece
spain 1 - 1 france
england 1 - 1 italy

caek, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:11 (eleven years ago) link

england playing in a manner that suits them tbh, it could take them further. italy no great shakes.

i sort of concur with this, tho i've gotta say that even playing on the counter they're hampered by inconsistent defending and lack of pace/flair when they break. but yeah they can beat Italy. if they start to believe, drop Terry, Rooney gets his touch back. i dunno, it's weird.

i'm even liking the notion of Milner as a dude who just aimlessly lumbers up and down on the right because there's nobody else to put there. Gerrard wd probably be best placed as the right-sided mid but then there's nobody to put in his gap in the middle.

genuine kudos to Roy for making a passable imitation nylon purse out of this bag of sows' ears

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

England-Italy will go to pens I reckon (although I haven't actually seen England play this tourney aside from the first 30mins against France)

Spain look out of sorts but France aren't much cop and got badly outplayed last might. So Spain will win.

Can't see anything other than Portugal/Germany wins in the other half of the draw.

Roll on Thursday.

pandemic, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:31 (eleven years ago) link

milner is there as the chips under johnson`s dip tbf

mate was tryin to tell me last night that englad are doing well `despite` the absences of lampard, barry, carrick. laughed him out of it tbh. any one of them fucks the whole thing up beyond salvation.

lescott by some distance better than terr last night imo

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:32 (eleven years ago) link

I think Portugal and Germany will win and may well contest the final. I think France will do Spain because they never go out in the QFs, are perverse, and because Benzema has something spectacular in him. England, well history says Italy and they are a better side, but I quite fancy Roy to be diligent enough to work something out. If Harry had been manager, no way.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:32 (eleven years ago) link

I reckon Spain will beat France and then lose to Portugal. Portugal look very disciplined and solid and Spain look vulnerable to being run at on the break. Germany will probably beat them in the final though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link

"work something out" = clog Pirlo out of the match iirc

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:38 (eleven years ago) link

wtf how the hell can you pick france after yesterday's appalling display. a team of arrogant dicks who watched spain at their peak and all they got from it was "we should try for 1 million consecutive pointless passes in front of the box" , a coach who seemingly picks players randomly (after the game against ukraine, you pull menez? you leave nasri on? you bring malouda on when we're trailing sweden... ).

Jibe, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

france didn't need to win last night's game amirite

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

nope they didn't. could have been out of the tournament only if ukraine had won by more than 2 goals or something like that.

Jibe, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

You can't judge France based on form though. They are the most erratic team in football.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

Usually France would be shit for ages and then get their act together because they'd have at least one world class player that a game would turn over. There aren't any world class players in the current French squad, certainly not to Zidane or Henry level.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

i'm judging this one more on the fact that blanc has absolutely no idea what he's doing. but ya, you never know, maybe since every one says they'll get trounced by spain the players will get their shit together and do something.

matt otm also

Jibe, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

reckon:
england 0 - 0 italy (eng win on pen 4-3)
czech rep 0 - 3 portugal
germany 1 - 1 greece (greece win on pen 5-4 FU merkel)
spain 4 - 0 france

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

The other thing with Spain is that although it's really really hard to beat them, you don't actually have to be super-talented to do so.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

FIFA president Sepp Blatter: 'After last night’s match #GLT is no longer an alternative but a necessity.'

Gammon Lettuce and Tomato?

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

i'm judging this one more on the fact that blanc has absolutely no idea what he's doing.

Should be a perfect fit at Spurs then

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

some people want him to be the next Utd manager

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link

France just don't have enough good players, that's not his fault... picking Malouda is though

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link

not sure the lack of good players is the issue for FR - on paper this could be quite a squad but as NL has shown yet again it takes more than a bunch of talented individuals to make something.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

OK, they are a lot of good players but I don't think any of them are particularly outstanding

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

ya france don't have great players... but holding on to evra for as long as he did was a mistake, removing menez and cabaye after they were 2 of the best players against ukraine was a mistake, keeping samir nasri on and putting him on the right side, then in the center of the field, with nasri doing fuck all was a mistake, subbing malouda in was a mistake (but taking ben arfa out was not a mistake, so yay, good job, good effort laurent), bringing only 2 cf to the euros meaning that you can never play giroud & benzema at the same time except at the end of games where you're trailing was a mistake (especially since benzema really doesn't seem to want to set foot in the box, which may be due to the fact that he'd then never even get a whiff of the ball). declaring that you want france to play like barcelona and then stocking up on players like ribéry, nasri, menez, ben arfa who like nothing more than to dribble rather than pass also shows a distinct lack of awareness. if domenech was coaching instead of blanc, he'd have been torn apart, totally destroyed by every journalist with a pulse.

Jibe, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

declaring that you want france to play like barcelona

Beginning to think Barcelona are having a pernicious influence on world football!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

Unless Lionel Messi is actually in your team

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

xxp
Hah! - well to be honest this FR team was alwas going to be a transitional team - most of these players will reach maturity for the next WC - I'm curious to see how many of them will still be playing in the national team by then.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link

pffft france have enough good players. they could most probably put together the third best squad of the comp. benzema may be the best striker there. ok they are a bit light at the back but that is just because blanc is stubborn enough to keep picking mexes and sagna is injured.

they sure do love inconstistency tho.

going

czech 0 - portugal 2
germany 1 - greece 1 (germans in et)
france 0 - spain 2
england 1 - italy 1 (italy on pens)

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

benzema may be the best striker there

Bit of a dearth of good strikers in this tournanment?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

blanc is clueless, he saw barcelona was playing well, so he thought france should play like them. totally clueless i say. remember we're talking about a coach who apparently doesn't know a whole lot about french players - he totally mangled bafétimbi gomis' first name and declared that he might pick him if he got more playing time at lyon, at a time when gomis was the only striker on the field for lyon and carrying the team; told nasri he should maybe try to score more goals if he wanted to be taken into consideration etc.

i'm really starting to dislike him a lot (which i guess is kinda obvious).

Jibe, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link

a hoy otm

plenty of good strikers and benzema one the best

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:04 (eleven years ago) link

Not really, he is a legit great striker. As for at *least* good strikers: RVI, Huntelaar (lols), Gomez, *whisper it* Torres, Llorente, Klose, Zlatan, Cassano, Mario, Di Natale, Giroud, Welbeck, Sheva, CRonny if he wants to play there, maybe even through in Jelavic...

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

Fair enough, I haven't seen enough of him obviously

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

Welbeck? You are kidding me, right?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

Jibe sorry for ignorance but what do you mean he doesn't know, he is France coach and previous coached in the French league... you'd think players from outside would be his hindrance, if only because he'd see the homegrown all the time?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

Welbeck? You are kidding me, right?

― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:06 (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When you are Man Utd's best striker, most creative player (albeit post-Berba and pre-Kagawa) and also scorer of the most creative non-Ibra goal at the tournament, I think you can be classed as a good striker.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

[Sorry, maybe that is being unkind to Cleverly for the four games he played and Valencia, I didn't see a lot of Utd at the end of the season.]

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

He's not bad, that's true

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

Nani is Utd's most creative player

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

there is a youtube but its is russian so why post

---

Reporter: Our fans came up to you and the team after the game but all they got from you was “you’re all bastards”. And there were 100 millions of “bastards” supporting you. Do you understand it? If you just said “Sorry, guys” there would’ve been no problem. No questions to any of you. Cause everything can happen. But instead every player who was approached by fans said only “get out, bastard”. None of the lads said “Sorry, we couldn’t do it”.

Arshavin: Well, if the fans were in normal condition maybe we would have said that.

Reporter – Well, my friend who doesn’t drink at all said that but in reply heard only insults from the players. I Don’t even want repeat what he heard. But NONE of the players simply said ‘sorry’.

Arshavin – Why should we say ‘sorry’?

Reporter – Well, you failed, didn’t you?

Arshavin – Why?

Reporter – You failed.

Arshavin – Why?

Reporter – Look, I’m not an expert, but you failed.

Arshavin – Just answer my question: Why should we say sorry?

Reporter/Fan – You didn’t meet expectations.

Arshavin – Whose expecations? Yours or ours?

Reporter – Of 100 million Russians

Arshavin – Well, if we didn’t meet your expecations it’s your problem. And we were all trying…

Fan – You really mean it? That if you didn’t meet our expecations it’s OUR problem?

Arshavin – Yeah.

Reporter – Well, I don’t have anything else to say. I’m shocked. I’m just shocked.

Fan – We’re supporting you, we’re going everywhere with you.

Fan – There was full stadium of us coming here to support you and it’s all OUR problem?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

When you are Man Utd's best striker, most creative player (albeit post-Berba and pre-Kagawa)

Love this kind of fronting. Actually no, bored shitless by it by now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, it's idiotic but i really don't want another Rooney debate

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

Arshavin OTM

pandemic, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

i never said a thing about rooney. ffs. and tbf i didn't include him in my initial list of strikers because he didn't play for two games and then obv wasn't fit to play after that.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

welbeck will be great

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

I love Welbeck. He scored 12 goals to Rooney's 35 last year though. The Berbatov bit is just typical ilf fantasy-land stuff

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

ibra scored a cracker last night once sweden were eliminated,eh

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

he had a pretty good tournament

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

i'd like to see him in the epl humiliating vermin like terry every week

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link

rooney was shit last night tho, give us that.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

wellbeck played the same number of minutes as the same focal point for the attack as rooney last year huh

greetings from alexanderplatz btw

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

deems does deutschland huh

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

Welbeck probably played more minutes as the focal point of the attack. He also missed a lot of sitters. Rooney was shit last night yeah

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

deems dropss his campervan back to bad duben

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

creativity != goalscoring fyi

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

You said most creative player and best striker. Welbeck is neither.

Number None, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

all this talk around of how great gerrard was, he hasn't actually been good though has he? do you all agree? he hasn't looked good to me.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

france was awful yesterday. they didn't seem to care or bother. it was so boring to watch.
I guess the fact they were already qualified didn't help... and maybe they preferred to play spain instead of italy (which wouldn't be THAT crazy since that's what I think !).

I also think the absence of cabaye and menez was key (the best chance they had was once menez came in).

the game against spain will be fun, anyway (even if they destroy us) !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

gerrard got them crosses in that got them goals i suppose

but that would make rooney the best player last night for having scored a skillful goal

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

think it was the shittest goal of all time

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

so you don't think rooney was the best player last night?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

just because he has a shit haircut

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

no it was just a comically shit goal, separate to my opinion on wayne.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

it took skill and heart to score a goal like that i don't think even probably man united's most creative player and definitely best striker danny welbeck could have scored a goal like that

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link

an on-form pre-jagerbomb carroll, could, perhaps, have bundled it over the line somehow

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

*goes misty eyed, rubs chin*

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

Gerrard's not been great but by his own poor level of achievement at tournaments he's been a disciplined team player and i think people are greatful for these small mercies

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

Gerrard's deliver of dead balls has probably been his saving grace this tournament, it's been great, and he's created chances. Otherwise he's been poor, England can't hope to control a game from midfield anyway so I'll take him being there for a decent free kick or three.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that too, he's devolving into the Poundland Beckham basically

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

with better music taste

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

david bentley has a skip for all youse heretics

r|t|c, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Jibe sorry for ignorance but what do you mean he doesn't know, he is France coach and previous coached in the French league... you'd think players from outside would be his hindrance, if only because he'd see the homegrown all the time?

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:07 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You'd think so right? But in an interview in october he couldn't remember gomis' first name and used a wrong one. But ok i'll give him the benefit of doubt and say that maybe bafetimbi was too complicated a name for him to remember... And then he said he'd consider putting him in the side if he got playing time, right when gomis was starting for lyon all the time and being very good. when your only job is to scout players, not knowing that one of your 4-5 best strikers is starting all the games and is not a sub just reeks of incompetence.

Jibe, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

He's notoriously lazy I heard (probably from Philippe Auclair), rarely attends games, etc.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, auclair called him a master delegator in the racing post euro betting guide iirc.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

STATS

• The Czech Republic have reached the quarter-finals of the Euros for the third time in the past five tournaments.

• Milan Baros spent 217 minutes on the pitch before getting a shot on target at Euro 2012.

• Poland have played more games at European Championships without winning than any other side (six).

• Romania and Switzerland are the only other teams that failed to win any of their first six matches at European Championships.

• Poland are only the second host nation to fail to win a group stage match at the Euros (after Austria in 2008).

• Giorgos Karagounis picked up his eighth yellow card in only 10 appearances at the European Championships.

• The two matches where teams had the most shots (Holland 32 v Denmark, Russia 31 v Greece), saw them both lose 1–0.

• There have already been 17 headed goals at Euro 2012, the joint-most at any single European Championship finals (with 2004).

• Alexander Kerzhakov had 14 shots at Euro 2012, but not a single one was on target.

• Germany won all three of their group games at the Euros for the first time.

• Germany have won their last 14 competitive games – an all-time record in German football history.

• Portugal and Germany equalled Holland as the only sides to have made it through the group stages six times at the Euros.

• Only two of the eight teams to previously win all of their Euro group games have gone on to win the tournament (France 1984 and Spain 2008).

• There has not been a single 0-0 draw at Euro 2012 so far, the longest a competition has gone without one.

• Cristiano Ronaldo, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Helder Postiga joined Nuno Gomes, Thierry Henry, Vladimir Smicer and Jürgen Klinsmann as players to have scored at three different European Championship finals.

• Portugal have hit the woodwork four times in the 2012 finals, a tournament-high.

• Cristiano Ronaldo attempted a total of 12 shots against Holland, the most by a single player in a single game in Euro finals.

• Holland failed to win a group stage game at the Euros for the first time.

• Portugal have now made it to the knockout stages of the European Championship finals every time they have been present (six times).

• Spain have made the most passes at Euro 2012 so far – 2,289, 662 more than any other side (France).

• Spain have had more possession than their opponents in their last 58 matches — since the 2008 final v Germany (46.2%).

• The only previous time Spain picked up at least seven points in the group stages of the Euros saw them crowned champions (nine points at Euro 2008).

• Ireland ended their group having conceded nine goals, only Yugoslavia in 1984 let in more (10).

• Ireland were the 10th team to end the Euro group stage with zero points (second in 2012 after Holland).

• Ireland's goal difference of minus 8 is the joint-worst in Euro group history.

• Four of the last six winners of the Euros have finished second in their group.

• Wayne Rooney ended a run of 673 minutes without a goal at major tournaments when he scored against Ukraine.

• Euro 96 was the only previous occasion that England topped their group at a European Championship.

• The last four host nations have exited the Euros at the group stage (Austria, Switzerland, Poland and Ukraine).

• England have won six games 1-0 in 2011-12. They had never previously won more than four by this scoreline in a single season.

• Four of England's five goals at Euro 2012 have come from crosses.

• Only Michel Platini (nine) and Alan Shearer (seven) have ever scored more goals than Ibrahimovic (six) at the Euro finals.

• Karim Benzema has now had 17 shots without scoring at Euro 2012 – the most of all players.

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:26 (eleven years ago) link

Platini scoring all his nine goals in five games in 1984 is incredible

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:32 (eleven years ago) link

I don't remember 1984 Euros AT ALL. It's a complete blank to me, I should really track some of the matches down and give them a go. I'm not sure why I completely missed out on it 'cos I remember 1982 WC really vividly, and every Euro and WC since 1986.

Pat Nevin over on the BBC website saying that Pirlo can only hurt you if you give him time. Lucky that over the last decade no team has ever tried to close him down really or he'd never have made it.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:38 (eleven years ago) link

Quite looking frwd to tonight although part of me suspects Portugal will win quite easily. I hope Gebre Selassie keeps up his attacking movements rather than being solely concerned with Ronaldo.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

pandemic you dont remember Arconada making a complete arse of things?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:59 (eleven years ago) link

No? I remember the Spanish goalie from '82 palming one straight to the feet of Gerry Armstrong. Was that the same keeper?

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

The only clip of Euro 84 that ever gets played is Motty's "Platini! I've not seen a game like this in years!" from the France-Portugal semi

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

I was living in West Germany at the time and remember what a failure they were at that champs considering the likes of Littbarski and Rummenigge on the team. Was cheering for Denmark as plucky outsiders though.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

The Guardian's classic youtube piece today has a load of zlatan stuff including a documentary about his time at Malmo. It is hilarious just how much seething resentment there is from the captain? towards him. Even after he's been sold to Ajax the dislike is palpable.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

I was looking at the qualification for Euro 84 earlier, and it turns out Northern Ireland beat West Germany home-and-away, and would've qualified instead of them had they not lost in Turkey (who were rubbish then)

Wales came even closer, missing out only thanks to a 91st minute Yugoslav winner against (I think) Bulgaria in the final game of the group

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

<3

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

i imagine roy will call alex oxlade-chamberlain into the side to deal with the threat of pirlo, what with him having marked him out of that champions league match at the emirates.

Chris, Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

Best friend: gotze
First Kiss: howedes
Enemy: schmelzer
Gives you his jersey: boateng
Dedicates a goal to you: khedira
Proposes on the field: mertesacker

big merts wishes.

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ first kiss: bender

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

I don't remember 1984 Euros AT ALL. It's a complete blank to me, I should really track some of the matches down and give them a go. I'm not sure why I completely missed out on it 'cos I remember 1982 WC really vividly, and every Euro and WC since 1986.

Exactly the same for me. I remember being vaguely aware that it was happening, but I don't recall actually watching any of it. Maybe because England weren't in it, though I don't know how important that would have been - my key memories of 82 are all about that Brazil team, Paolo Rossi, and Schumacher trying to kick a French bloke's head off.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

back then if England didn't make a tournament the tv companies weren't interested in showing most games.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

That would explain it

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

Czech should pray Ronaldo has a bad day

nostormo, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

klinsmann and hansen talking nonsense. If portugal don't win ronaldo is still one of the 2 best players of his generation

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

Shearer just bloody loves being in a football stadium

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

This side-on view makes Shearer look a bit like Putin

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

Cech should not grow a beard.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

Jurgen Klinsmann just described Ronaldo as a "floater". I know Ronaldo's not the most popular guy, but possibly a bit harsh?

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Taking the piss having Martin Atkinson as one of the goal-line refs.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

i imagine roy will call alex oxlade-chamberlain into the side to deal with the threat of pirlo, what with him having marked him out of that champions league match at the emirates.

― Chris, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:02 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the beckham of ilx -- one trick, exceptionally well executed

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

i dont really notice referees much but howard webb is always terrible, the worst example of a ref who starts laissez faire, lets the game turn into a scrapfest and then has to spend the last half hour sending players off and shouting and pointing at random ppl like some hideous overgrown robbie keane

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

keown is such a twat

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

ah Figo.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

cameraman picks out pretty girl, then her boyfriend comes into shot CUT

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

How do these people always spot themselves on the big screen? I never look up when I'm at the footy.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

Did he say 'like an NFL basketball player'?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

an NFL basketball player. Keown you tool. NBA NBA

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

although Lebron is kinda an NFL basketball player

ooh close

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

that would be a physique-and-a-half

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

such an idiot

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

Cech looks so bad

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

That was absolutely beautiful

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

eh not so sure that was a foul

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

sweet save, lame call

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

Loved the build-up. never a foul.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

lol Webb

Ludo, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

great interception from the psychopath

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

bad pass but coentrao took a good angle

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

back heel volley clearance attempt.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

things that make me irrationally angry #2364

pronouncing cech's first name as peter. especially in 2012. fucking keown.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

"all" the england games

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

from the fans that brought you "chesney"

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

haha

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

ooh fantastic

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah great

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

that is *so* good

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

entertaining histrionics afterwards too

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

chesney is just because dude's name is kinda hard to spell. they pronounce his name correctly when saying it out loud. but if you cannot pronounce a player's easy name after he's been on tv weekly for 5+ years, then you are going to annoy me.

that cronaldo is decent, huh

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

"He's in a league of his own Jonathan"

unfortunately it's division two

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

wonder what his 2nd half hair cut will be?

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Czechs started okay but I'll be a bit annoyed if they win tonight, this is as far as they should be going

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp nah. i can assure you only polish commentators say chezza's name properly

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

parting on the other side

xxp

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Czechs started okay but I'll be a bit annoyed if they win tonight, this is as far as they should be going

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:34 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty lacklustre game all round

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

i like how ronnie did all that by himself for the last chance and the teammate's still in the box fucked off he didnt square it

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

some more hard-hitting investigative journalism from Gaby Logan

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

oh my this gabby logan self motivation video

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

its a living fast show sketch

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

strolling pastel or a Partridge in Paris?

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

feeling the trousers yo

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

nice of Jurgen to lie to make us feel better

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

lol yeah

caaalifornia looooove

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

i'd managed to miss nu-shearer til now but wtf you were all otm, he has been caning the gear

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

yiz got a little bump for me jake? ah go on pet giz it

sure thing al have a bang on that

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

oh look, just like wembley, none of the people in the posh seats come back in time for the 2nd half.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

why was jonathan pearce muttering 'american football' before ronnie took that free kick?

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

Superb gurning from the lad

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

2nd and 30 after advancing the ball?

oof post again, giving me bad flashbacks

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

This game has been odd.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

xp because he just realised what Keown said

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

jonathon pearce teasing us with baros scandal but not delivering.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

that derrida lad does like a run from deep its true

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

wikipedia drawing a blank too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

baros would have been better staying in the crack house for all the good he's doing here.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

ooh, great from pilar

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

Czech striker Milan Baros to undergo muscle scan ...
article.wn.com/.../Czech_striker_Milan_ ...
6 Jun 2012 – Czech Republic's Milan Baros walks to a bus at the Euro 2012 soccer ... Milan was badly affected by Tangentopoli, a major political scandal centered on public works bribes, ...

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

has it ever been known for someone to "cavort" with anything other than a prostitute

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

its always whores

this game has been really fun, dunno why they were hating at ht

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

one can cavort with a mistress too, surely.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i've optioned a "man tries to open can without can opener" tv show based on the sheer fun of this game

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

xp or maybe in the context of an orgy or similar Bacchanalian rite

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

its always public works bribes

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

oh petr, giving guys head injuries

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

calmness personified, murdering defenders in his path
champions league medall in his back pocket

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

the ribcage? fair enough

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

hostage to fortune time: I think this one will go to penalties.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

keown is such a twat

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

"he's stubbed his ankle or sumthin'"

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

portugal to go one up in 82nd minute

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

leipzig halle arent showin this the cunts

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

What *are* they showing?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

"crumbled into repair!"

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

great pass meireles

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Czechs have presumably calculated they've got a better than 50/50 chance at penalties with Cech in goal and are playing for that. Hopefully it doesn't work or they'll do the same thing in the semis.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

that's awful

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

from nani

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Yes!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

yes

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

CRONALDO Y'ALL

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

There we go.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Good header!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

lovely move and finish, i was 2 mins out

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

as soon as keown said portugal were missing a midfield runner...

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

good estimate, pandemic!

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

top header too. cech on the flap.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Wonderful. And totally deserved.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

is it me or does paolo bento look like jools holland

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

went for a pish and missed it.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

czech rep sitting way too deep considering they need the ball back

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

top jump from ronnie there

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

Figo, love it

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

Figo, hilarious

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

'Howard Webb' morphing into 'Howard' is bad news

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Big H.

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

H Dub

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Webbo

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

The Webbmaster

zappi, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

that derrida lad does like a run from deep its true

― r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:56 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this the first time this dudes name has got the ilx treatment

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

cointreau

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

hugo almeida is why bigs don't work, kids

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

cech better come up for this

yay

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

WHY THE FUCK NOT JUST SMACK IT

there is no fucking goalkeeper

i just dont get it

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

what the fuck kind of corner was that

jabba hands, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Aw, how has Moutinho failed to make that pass?!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for the bird call there Ronaldo.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

oh yep i see the jools holland thing now

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

OOUUUU

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

That's the exact opposite of a miscarriage of justice tonight

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

"a win for football, jurgen?"

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

a win for ronaldo's adam's apple

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

eh portugal defo deserved it but don't think portugal are all that

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Heh, I knew that swoopycam had come down too low

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

I really want Ronaldo to win it now. Single-handedly

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

hansen challops

pandemic, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

i enjoyed that, bollocks to a deserve tho

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

God, shearer is such a tosser.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

Nani is so weird.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

RTE panel are debating whether Ronaldo truly qualifies as a "great" player. For the millionth time

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

"jermain Defoe went home yesterday from his father's funeral, so everything is rosy!"

Well done Gaby.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo: "big smiles and good musics" OTM

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

back-handed compliments from Jurgen here

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

Perhaps Portugal isn't as good a side as he's played on for some time and Ronaldo doesn't shine as brightly and has to work harder but he's certainly a pretty good footballer and he's now won two of these games for the Lusitanians.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

nult could really benefit from some latinisms

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.minus.com/ibpfulTvRiS6nE.gif

DX Dx DX (dan m), Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

<3
http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-114kj0o.gif

zappi, Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

cr7 listening to sade is the toecurlingly grossest concoction

r|t|c, Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

Few had backed England to progress to the last eight, let alone finish ahead of France, but Hart says that was never a view shared by himself or his team-mates.

from superdry rep interview: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18534148

wtf... yes FEW had backed them, they've done AMAZING just to get out of the group.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

is cronny saying 'messi' in that gif?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

looks like it.

xp. if few really had backed england to get out of the group stage it was only because bookies were offering the prohibitively short odds of 1-2 to do so.

second only to popcorn (or something), Friday, 22 June 2012 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

back home, finally got to see some clips

we sounded pretty fuckin good out there eh

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 22 June 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

welcome back!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

srsly imma sleep til next time

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 22 June 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

war stories please

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

we bought gassy water 6 times, and salt instead of sugar.
we conducted a singsong of about 800 fans for two hours in poznan centrum one night.
sang/chanted everywhere we went, must be all over youtube in poland.
ppl queued for an hour to get their pic taken with out famous 'long cox will hurt you in the box' tricolour
driving a campervan is more fun than sleeping in one.
undernourished, underslept, off drink and meat for the next fortnight imo.
worth doin.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 22 June 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link

Few had backed England to progress to the last eight

These cunts can make even modesty seem annoying

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

did you see John Delaney at any point

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

yep! we sang the john delaney song to him and he seemed chuffed. he was well on it. saw him later that night missing a shoe.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 22 June 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

dignified as always

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

what tune is that terry song to?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

kc & the sunshine band - give it up

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

fine xinging btw

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

According to Bild, Germany are going to 'rest' their front 3 (Gomez, Muller, Podolski) against Greece! Top trolling if true but no way do I see it happening.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

no way, already think Greece can mess with their game-plan

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

the worst thing that would likely happen vs greece is getting to 65 mins at 0-0, at which point bringing on the big machers would step things up better than bringing on klose gotze reus

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

still bild has less credibility than der sturmer

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

According to Bild, Germany are going to 'rest' their front 3 (Gomez, Muller, Podolski) against Greece! Top trolling if true but no way do I see it happening.

Pretty sure I heard some TV talking heads discussing England resting some of their top players against Sweden, to "rest them for later in the tournament" - who exactly these top players were, I've no idea, Ashley Young maybe?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Jordan Henderson. He's had an extra long rest

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

Martin Kelly

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

over the last ten days or w/e it is I think I've seen every single England player who's been on the pitch cited as playing well, and also as playing badly

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

for real though, there's no way Parker lasts 120 minutes if it comes to that

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

forgot Henderson was there, kinda makes Milner's ever-presence even weirder

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

(xxp) You mean someone other than Roy Hodgson thinks Ashley Young has played well?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

By the way, I missed the start of Ukraine game, did Rooney sing the national anthem?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

He sung Ukraine's.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

That would be more acceptable in Croxteth than God Save the Queen

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJTnszMPLXQ

Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

rooney did sing it, having not sung it when he was in the stands. i was looking forward to a good 'they should all sing it!' thing but ah well.

Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

rooney did sing it

Traitor

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

Fair play to Shearer butting in there, Lee Dixon wasn't actually saying anything.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

rmde at the sudden lockstep from downplaying england to IN IT TO WIN IT ITALY ARE NOTHING TO WRITE HOME ABOUT

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

Milner completes 9 passes in 69' versus Ukraine

whereas in Italy, for example, Milner might already have been granted a reverential nickname like "the Woodlouse" or "the Marching Gnome" or "Tiny Soldier-Legs".

boxall, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

did Rooney sing the national anthem?

Is this a thing? I noticed he sang it and was disappointed because I'm fairly sure he never used to. I also noticed G Nev singing it for the first match and he definitely never used to sing it. Has there been some kind of pressure from above / tabloid storm?

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

for real though, there's no way Parker lasts 120 minutes if it comes to that

You ever get smacked by a ball at high speed 500 times a night? Starts to sting after a while.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

Jubilee. New team spirit. English manager. We're all in this together. etc etc etc

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

srs qn

how can u care about probably the best paid squad in the competition (them or spain i guess) p much being outplayed for 80+% of the time so far and being the only side other than greece or ireland who can't play even a rudimentary possession game and being full or srsly despicable players?

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Apparently Hodgson wanted his lads to sing the Nat. Anthem, gawd bless you, ma'am.(XP)

rmde at the sudden lockstep from downplaying england to IN IT TO WIN IT ITALY ARE NOTHING TO WRITE HOME ABOUT

You forgot, BALOTELLI IS THE ONLY ONE WHO PLAYS IN ENGLAND THEREFORE HE IS THE DANGER MAN

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

Which are they: full or seriously despicable? (xp)

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

It wasn't composed with sport in mind, I'd feel half-defeated by the end of that dirge. And yet you'd think the eastern ones would create armies of ultramotivated supermen.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

lampard not there so seriously full ruled out

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

how can u care about probably the best paid squad in the competition (them or spain i guess) p much being outplayed for 80+% of the time so far and being the only side other than greece or ireland who can't play even a rudimentary possession game and being full or srsly despicable players?

You appear to be confusing football with rational thought.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'm struggling to care as much as I did in 2004 though. Probably missing the Sweden game has had some impact there.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not missing the Sweden game that much.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Jonathan Wilson ‏@jonawils
Just seen Carlos Bianchi prop up a sleeping man as he slid off chair then gesticulate derisively at him as he wondered whether to wake him

Jonathan Wilson ‏@jonawils
Given how much he looks like Larry Davud, that was pretty much a five-minute live show of Curb.

boxall, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://ballsybanter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ibrahimovic1.jpg

Missing this dude already ;_;

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

at a certain point a team just gets so graceless and vile that rational thought has to kick in

like at the last world cup when a holland side no more thuggish and considerably more skilful and with probably slightly fewer total cunts got to the final, ppl like cruijff were saying that it would be a travesty for that side to win

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

sweden game was cracking. they didn't play well either though, they can't control a game for the life of them.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

i mean england didn't play well in it, and were even worse against ukraine. i sort of agree with nakh in that people seem to overlook what actually happened v ukraine. they had about two chances and scored the shittest goal of the competition, and conceded a goal that wasn't awarded.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

welbecks goal was fantastic, p much the only player and moment that might charm neutral viewers abt this england side

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

like at the last world cup when a holland side no more thuggish and considerably more skilful and with probably slightly fewer total cunts got to the final, ppl like cruijff were saying that it would be a travesty for that side to win

That's because the Dutch national team has a tradition of playing cultured football, we're talking about England here

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

England aren't particularly thuggish on the pitch, not in that kick-in-the-chest De Jong/Van Bommell way. They were dicks in the final (and hey it nearly worked for them).

There are maybe three out-and-out cunts in the team (Terry-Rooney-Gerrard), the rest of them are either kinda anonymous or slightly overblown pantomime villains like Ashley Cole.

They are useless at controlling a game but, I dunno, they score goals and they're still in the tournament when a lot of so-called technically superior teams aren't.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

have hodgson/the fa seriously put pressure on the players to sing it?

don't give a fuck if england win this or not. i don't know what's worse, the "we should be winning every tournament we enter" shite that preceded hodgson, or this new "we're the underdogs and it's a fucking miracle we got out of the group" bollocks.

Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Hodgson asked them. He's a nice chap.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

a big factor in their favour is hodgson hasn't had enough time to have any build up of begrudgery/frustration. they should prob appoint a new boss a few weeks before every major tournament.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

that is a fair observation tom but even if successful england sides - 1966, 1990 (kinda) - didnt play tiki taka, they still had awesome players lile charlton or gascoigne, barnes, greaves (as a sub), banks, shilton etc

they also had ppl like bobby moore who is as great a contrast with terry as de jong was from neeskens

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Mick McCarthy had all the players (and himself) learn the anthem phonetically when he took over as Ireland manager

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

greaves (as a sub)

The parentheses speaks volumes. But no use bellyaching over it I suppose, Geoff Hurst did score three goals in a World Cup final!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

Mick did pretty well as Ireland boss.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

Going out in a second-round penalty shootout to Spain would be considered heroism by the standards of this Ireland team. Especially with Matt Holland taking yr first penalty.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

it was pretty heroic tbf

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

and boy did we have a singsong

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know what's worse, the "we should be winning every tournament we enter" shite that preceded hodgson, or this new "we're the underdogs and it's a fucking miracle we got out of the group" bollocks.

Aye I'd appreciate a more pragmatic view that says "England should probably get through every world Cup/Euro group and anything beyond a quarter final is a success."

Not a lot of emotional play in a team that merely meets expectations though.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

thats cuz they had a manager in ramsey who had the sangfroid to pick a form player rather than shoving star names into the first xi like that erikson

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

and boy did we have a singsong

we sang ourselves into the ground.

can we discuss the whole rage about singsongs here? or have we yet? i mean amongst irish people. i feel like irish people saying "our fans are all idiots who only turn up for a singsong" is part of the same deep-seated national identity as our fans getting pissed and having singsongs.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

hodgson is obviated from the same predicament by a lack of stars (-1 thanks to terry)

and i guess hodgson is in england's favour, for being a good sort etc

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

They are useless at controlling a game but, I dunno, they score goals and they're still in the tournament when a lot of so-called technically superior teams aren't.

― Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:58 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can i just lament the phrase 'so called' used in this way, it is way commentbox like oooh look at those fancy cunts and where it got them

russia are technically superior to england, by any rational call

they are out cuz they were woefully inferior in every other aspect

it does not follow that the neutral fact of their technical level is itself questionable

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

can we discuss the whole rage about singsongs here? or have we yet? i mean amongst irish people. i feel like irish people saying "our fans are all idiots who only turn up for a singsong" is part of the same deep-seated national identity as our fans getting pissed and having singsongs.

Similar to Scotland - that is in the period between the biannual drunken pillaging @ Wembley and our current state of wretched obscurity/insignificance

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

But look at them, and where it got them.

boxall, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

We turned from being rampaging drunken barbarians to cheerful idiots in kilts and Jimmy wigs - angry drunk vs. happy drunk (xp)

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

now stay-at-home drunks, the demon gets you in the end

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

haha

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Well, there is one constant there

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

it does not follow that the neutral fact of their technical level is itself questionable

Dunno, great technique isn't great technique unless you can reproduce it under competitive pressure. I'm sure there are players who are amazing on training grounds who can't do it in real games, probably a fair few have played for Spurs. Are Russia technically superior upfront? In defence? I dunno.

England would probably not have finished above a genuinely technically superior team like Croatia who were massively unlucky with their draw.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

they did finish over a genuinely technically superior team in france

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

even scott parker can trap a ball, lord knows his skill was good enough to grace a mcdonalds advert

glen johnson is nifty enough for a fullback

etc

this is like a fraction of the reason england are so dreadful, it's more to do with the lack of any sort of sense of how to play football, it's either heroic rearguard passionate defending or a thudded 40 yard pass to a forward who then has to do something with it, it is the most reactive form of football imaginable and entirely devoid of any schematic logic with no variety, no tempo other than frantic, no ingenuity, no convictions other than criminal

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

international football's kind of like a school's end of year concert/prizegiving. this is what we've done, and this is what we have to show for it. with spain and germany you can see the result of the changes they've made, the emphasis they've placed on skill and technique, the investment in coaching and training facilities. they mightn't win it, but you can see where those countries are in terms of development, structure, identity etc. what have england learnt at school this year?

Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I think England's ineptitude is as much an issue of temperament and composure and basic intelligence than it is of "technique".

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

I mean England's first touch is generally worse than that of most other teams but passing a ball to yr team mate when the opposing team are standing off you shouldn't be difficult for professional footballers and yet England fuck it up time and time again.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

it's more to do with the lack of any sort of sense of how to play football

otm. the rubbish football doesn't help, but the lack of leadership, vision and innovation from those at the top is what really pisses me off.

Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

no tempo other than frantic

Unfair, there's leaden and half-arsed as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

it's all the fault of the modular curriculum. michael gove will have this team back to former glories soon enough.

xxxxp

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

international football's kind of like a school's end of year concert/prizegiving. this is what we've done, and this is what we have to show for it. with spain and germany you can see the result of the changes they've made, the emphasis they've placed on skill and technique, the investment in coaching and training facilities. they mightn't win it, but you can see where those countries are in terms of development, structure, identity etc. what have england learnt at school this year?

― Chris, Friday, June 22, 2012 5:01 PM (1 minute ago)

totally

even ukraine, the archetypal 'nothing amazing' side, have a neatness, a sense of purposive movement that probably derives from lobanovskyi and that whole school of universal-interopable player/robots, they generally made good use of their few talented players and it clear what they are at least trying to achieve

england just look like a load of violent remedial kids who have been dosed with lucozade and forced to watch the al pacino speech in any given sunday 400 times

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

i guess we'll be getting andrey back

Zenit owner Golubev asked reporters: "How can a citizen of Russia treat the honour of his country like that?

"He should be deported."

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Golubev owns Zenit, he just works for Gazprom - which does. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays there.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnL3_C3UFs

this needs to be here tbh

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

It was true then. Schurrle, Reus and Klose in

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

What are they up to?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

gott in himmel zuviel kleine hunde wo sind die nationalmannschaftkaiserlichehunde?

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

otm

DX Dx DX (dan m), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Achtung Deutschland

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

gutsy selection

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

chiselled out of granite....like a greek....statue

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Looking frwd to seeing Reus. Jogi with balls of steel.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

did they mention reus or schurrle at all in the intro

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

No

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

but they are all 'good' players apparently

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

bail-out reus political significance justin bieber greece hate germany bath salts schurrle

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

lol

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.minus.com/ibkhWH0ls3ZEgS.jpg

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

hes just gone and done him early doors there he has

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure about that.

Just.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

good call

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

A reducer.
xp

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

lol

oh offside

balls of steel is rong, picking fresh v good players instead of maybe less fresh v good players isn't exactly a shocker

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

if reus? had got that instead then he was onside

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

still offside if he didn't touch it

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

schurrle active by dint of kicking keeper in gob

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Khedira and Reus were right on top of each other. Doesn't matter who scored it

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

or Schurrle even

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone got a better stream than watcheuro2012live.org? Nothing BBC cos I'm in China...

Oz, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

did reus or schurrle play well against werder and schalke last season? might have figured for low

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

balls of steel is rong, picking fresh v good players instead of maybe less fresh v good players isn't exactly a shocker

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, June 22, 2012 7:50 PM (6 minutes ago)

yeah but this isn't like ferguson fielding the kids for a home game vs west brom in between cl ties, can you remember a managing swapping an entire frontline for an international knockout tie?

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

this team looks better already

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

oz somewhere here you should find something http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=159973&part=sports

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Reus had a goal in the home game and an assist in the away game vs Schalke.

xxp

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

nakh - no, usually they do it for the third game of the group. it is rare a country has so many good interchangable players tho, how many teams in the past ten years could do this confidently? spain. brazil... maybe? argentina have lots of good strikers i guess.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

Samaras hardmanning his way through the German team <3

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

i guess brazil 02-04 and maybe france 00-02 would be able to do it.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

noted pandemic

a hoy yeah it requires a rare level of depth but probably a few of the top teams could have done it -- i think 'interchangeable' is key tho

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

crap finish great footbll

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Almost beautiful, but he shouldn't miss that

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

blimey that would have been the goal of the century

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Good save. Can the commentators not see deflections? It makes the keeper's job murderous, but all they get is 'he's made a mess of that'

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

shit. c'mon.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

ooof.

ok yeah interchangable maybe not the right word, although it totally applies here w/ lots of v good technique, smart attacking athletic types

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Punish Them!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

It won't be 0-0 much longer. You'd rather be building up this pressure at 25 mins than 85.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

If Germany can score before half-time they should get 3 or 4.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

at this rate they should be disappointed if they don't get 6 or 7

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

Samaras immediately abandoning the runner who'd come to relieve him

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Beglin hates this goalie

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

OOOH LAHM!!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

FINALLY

<3 horseboy

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Beautiful.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Nice

EZ Snappin, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Like south africa 2010

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

great swerve on that

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

ooof.

ok yeah interchangable maybe not the right word, although it totally applies here w/ lots of v good technique, smart attacking athletic types

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:11 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no i meant interchangeable is the right word, it's rly neat how schurrle and reus duplicate the qualities of poldi and muller

thank fuck for lahm

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

why not just say fuhrer clive

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Or was it Germany 06?

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

merkel there celebrating is like kicking them when they are down

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah nakh i meant the reason why jogi can do it is because they are similar in a way that say robinho for kaka or cassano for luca toni might not have worked idk

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

yeah

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Need to keep kicking imo, this is the team that will. not. die.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

greece STILL all 30 yrds from their own goal

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

That stripe up Klose's back is pretty retro

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

hate games like this

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

Greece have been better in the 2nd half of all their 3 games so far but it's gonna take some miraculous improvement to salvage this.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

In a way it's a pity, because an England-Greece semi would've been an unusual spectacle.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

as in cruel and unusual

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

I'm imagining something like that legendary Austria-Germany carve-up in 82, except more rudimentary.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

greece need to have their spirit broken, 1-0 still a counter attack/cock up away from a win on pens.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

I love this German team. Never thought I'd ever type that and mean it.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

merkel claps like a spastic puppet

mookieproof, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

mookie's clap clinic

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

not enough one-twos

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

he's probably right

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

82% possession that half.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

sall about the triangles these days

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

We may be denied a Spain-Greece Final with a 95%-5% possession rate.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

not sure if ive even seen barcelona getting 82%

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Greece are more negative than Rangers in 2008 UEFA Cup.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

lol three men in the other half for the first time and Samaras killed it

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

That's a staggerer from Onimo there.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

huns v huns

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

JESUS

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

speechless

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

omg

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

lollop that

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

"Greece have wiped the debt out"

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

will say for Greece, they are fucking clinical

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

"foootball, ay?"

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

"Greece have wiped the debt out"
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, June 22, 2012 8:01 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck. off.

big game sami

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

samaras is on some sort of ting today

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

I think if the revolution ever comes and I get to choose who has their head on a pike first, George Osbourne will get to survive that little bit longer because fucking ITV commentators exist

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

ooh aah samaras.
ooh aah samaras.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

greek god

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

dem greex, man. Wtf.

StanM, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/mookieproof/grk.jpg

hey bros

mookieproof, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

And back again!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

BOOM!!!!!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

okay!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

POW!!!!!!

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

dem germanz, man. Wtf.

StanM, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

turk does the greeks once again.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Argh, why don't they do this the rest of the time?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe Germany should leave a spare man at the back this time

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

HOUSE ffs

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah they were like "oh we need to score now? Okay" and off they go on an actual attack.

How much time do you want Marco FFS!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Balotelli-esque almost

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Greece seriously must be under instructions to only attack when behind.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Great Germany goal but shite right-backing there, should/could have stepped in a yard and headed that away.

<3 Sami now someone please buy him

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

i love that goal

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

<3 Sami now someone please buy him

― onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:11 (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think he's cool at madrid

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

Reus to go over to the left?

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

lol keeper

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

All over

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Done and done.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

klooooooooooooose

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

phew.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

was merkel doing 7 nation army just now?

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

wait did we make it 67 minutes in before a mention of hercules/other greek gods? blimey the economy is fucked.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Between Ronaldo/Lahm/Iniesta for player of the tournament so far for me.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Choice

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Reus!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

G'night.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Greece equalised too early. Bad strategy.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

i like reus. dortmund are gonna be even more fun next season.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

bum-a-ye

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

Only Schurrle letting the manager down, the other 2 scored.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

wanna see gotze now, but it'll probably be kroos for ozil or schweini.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

WS 4-1

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

goatse :D

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

the 2 marios

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

Greece equalised too early. Bad strategy.

absolutely otm.

Ludo, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

aw Ozil deserved one

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

Anon, via text: "I am not sure if it's just me, but I see resemblance of Fergie when Merkel celebrated Germany's goal!"

Yes!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

argh people on twitter plz plz STOP with the "austerity is winning" joeks because you sound so stupid. 5 goals is not austerity, 0-0 and pks would be austere, and for that matter the greeks when on are football austerity in its purest form aw forgetaboutit you're all stupid

DX Dx DX (dan m), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

austerity is a word of Greek origin, so there. :P

Ludo, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

peno

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

GAME ON!

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

deserved for turning his back

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

how the fuck is this good for merkel in the polls?

i
hate
itv
so
fucking
much

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

wouldn't have got that at 1-1

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Greece involved in tourney's highest scoring game!

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

WTF at this "deserve to be in this match, your continent and your currency" I seriously fucking hate ITV.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Not so sure England will stick 2 goals in vs Germany if they get past Italy.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Alan Green just said the Greek performance made him "want to throw up". I've obviously judged Greece too harshly, that's made me like them now.

pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Dunphy: German team full of ordinary players, Ozil goes missing in big games, saw Kroos play once for Bayern he's rubbish

Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

robbie savage pronounces it ~shurl~

the churl

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

this whole 'england are like italy' thing that seems to be uttered by everyone from 400lb, £400kpa martin samuel to pseudo hard cunt danielle de rossi

is so fucking stupid

this england team are nothing like any previous italian national side or major serie a side ever

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

It's sad Greece's keeper wasn't a keeper

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

xp

i think it's code for "will sit back". as far as de rossi is concerned, it's code for "playing down our chances in order to get that underdog vibe working"

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

still think England have a 50/50 shout against Italy. should they sneak through, Germany will destroy them tho

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

30/70

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

england have never beaten a major nation in a knockout game outside of wembley

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

they nicked the 1-0 against Argentina that time

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

that was a group game

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

oops sorry was in pub surrounded by angry greeks

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link

actually tbh it was not-that-bothered englishes who enjoy a kebab

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link

so much pseudy tactical pablum abt brave scotty and steve subduing pirlo, if england do manage a win it will be with <40% possession and either a fullback being skinned or an aimless 30 yard chipped pass that barzagli fails to clear

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

I for one welcome it!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

Although I prefer a John Terry handball à la Suarez...real evil racist cheating.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

This "England are like Italy" thing is code for "boring, will try and win 1-0", but virtually every Italy team, even the shit ones, have been able to keep the ball better than any England team in years.

Matt DC, Saturday, 23 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

It's because no one wants to say "England are like Greece".

Matt DC, Saturday, 23 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

That's the current Greek team...because the one from '04 can keep the ball better than the current England lot.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

"England are like Utd on a bad day"

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

No strikers again. Nor no Nasri neither.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Ooh Malouda has knifed Nasri over the last couple of days.

A France and Italy win will give us the same SF's as Germany '06 I think.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

Malouda is so lucky to get a start imo.

This game could feature zero shots from inside the area, would that be a record?

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

Is Debuchy playing in MF?

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

That's strange about the same semis, that cant've ever happened before?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Is Debuchy playing in MF?

Yup, paired with Che Guevara to a disco beat.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

haha

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Re: repeating semis - who was the fourth team in the 82 semis (I know we had France, W Germany and Italy)?

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Surely that's a penalty?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

xp Poland?

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

Poland.
I had to look it up tbf

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

lxy on laurent blanc: "that guy looks like an ilxor."

toandos, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Hahah I can see it.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Nicely done.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Lovely
Xabi my son!

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

xabi alonso :D

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Like clockwork.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Great from Jordi Alba.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

this game has been so sloppy so far. france need to get their act together, look less french stereotype and more awesome spirit of zizou

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Ooh, beautiful header.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

"shit, now what do we do?"

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

expected him to fist it

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

should have settled for the corner

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think I've ever seen a crowd Ole-ing after 20 minutes, at 1-0. That is crazy arrogance, esp. against a team w/ Benzema and Ribery in it.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

good job on naming flaky non-effective players there tbh

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

it is France

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

wtf playing that back to their own half, take a chance guys

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

This is more risible than Greece last night considering the players France have available.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

i'm comin round to the hatin spain thing tbh, they're as defensive/conservative as anyone in their own way.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, it's hardly their fault nobody ever plays them straight up, although Italy did in game 1 and it was good stuff.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Think Torres could do some damage if it's still 1-0 after an hour.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

when they get in behind a team and then cut back, prioritising possession over catching their opponents unbalanced, it's murder to watch

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

This will finish 3-0

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

italy played counterattack, not hammer and tongs tbf

It's more that spain don't try to advance or score but maybe one in ten times they could. It's.....dishonest football. Not advocating epl rush style but i can't get behind this.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

i love it

ogmor, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

Malouda on that goal!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's up to the other teams, a lot of which have some pretty terrific players, to work out how to put Spain under pressure rather than Spain change their style. I prefer watching Germany but I have no problems with Spain playing like this.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

spain are so extreme idk why you would want anything else

ogmor, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

the same thing about usain bolt pulling up i spose, wouldya just go for it kinda thing, aren't you even curious about your ability?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

How many times has Townsend said "bettah, bettah..." in this game. What a dick.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

this is getting very good

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

xp And why has he suddenly started saying "big" instead of high?

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

oh ffs karim

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Ooh, so close

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

this game is kinda shitty

even if spain are some big possession enigma robot and france are kinda thinking about maybe sending one or two players to possibly go for it, there is nothing of actual interest really going on

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

^ otm

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Spain stubbornly trying to go for their 5th straight 1-0 knockout win.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

France bringing on a striker who doesn't mind getting in the box? Madness.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Still in the lower reaches of the Klata Scale offside or not.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Substitutions have wrecked this a bit. It could really do with extra time.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Extra time with France having taken off M'Villa may be better. But I've got to get up for work in 3 hrs so screw that.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

france are shit, good riddance imo.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

This is dreadful

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

soft as shit

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Spain may spoil their 1-0 scoreline.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

cert penalty tbf

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

no penalty, but deserved win anyway. about as clinical as Greece, Spain

Ludo, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

France not much better than 2010. Zizou must be embarrassed to watch.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

this may be the worst game of the tournament. and i've watched england.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Doubt Spurs are still considering Blanc after this tourney.

pandemic, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Definitely the worst game of the tournament

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

terrible game really

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

how can that not be a penalty?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

france/england mb shaded it for slow motion edge of penalty area exhaustion

ogmor, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

didn't see France-Sweden but it sounded pretty bad too

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, even missed first goal, so 70ish minutes of abject tedium

I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

Great among a sewer of a game. All QFs have been so one-sided, hopefully tomorrow will be a classic.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

just j/k btw

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, just logged into Facebook and my old English teacher's posted a photo of him with Xabi Alonso from a few years ago, titled "Well done Xabi!" Two absolute legends.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

Forget vuvuzelas there is surely no more irritating sound in football than Clive Tyldesley's pronunciation of "Clichy"

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

Forget vuvuzelas there is surely no more irritating sound in football than Clive Tyldesley's pronunciation of "Clichy"

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

How about when he said: "And who were the last team to beat Spain? England!" in this weird, strangled voice?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

Well, there's Adrian Chiles for a start (xp)

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

LOL Keano, "Spain v. Germany, that's the final we all want to see"

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

Chiles was particularly awful last night. The perplexing thing is that it's essentially the same banter I used to like on motd2.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

His "Ooooh Roy Keane, you are scary" shtick is particurly irksome, a second after the final finishes Kean should tell him to stick his bollocks up his arse and walk out

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

before it starts, you mean?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

that France Spain game was like some kind of inter friendly, like neither team really seemed to care at all.

and yeah a definite penalty, why the commentator seemed to think otherwise is beyond me.

anyway, watching tonights game indoors so i might be able to finally watch a full game with no interuptions.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

I've never seen a team look so unbothered at going out at the QF stages as France did last night. Either applaud the fans who supported you this far or look like broken beaten individuals but don't just walk off.

It seems grossly unfair that players like Zlatan and Ronaldo get tarred with this "not a big game player" brush because I've genuinely never seen Ribery do anything of note in a big game. He must tear up the Bundesliga beause otherwise his reputation is largely unwarranted from what I can tell. It was funny failing to put his shirt on properly I suppose.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

oh ribery can join zlatan for all i care.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

Ribery was awesome when France beat Brazil, in 2006 I think. He doesn't look right at all currently.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

Ribery was excellent in the CL SF 1st leg vs Real Madrid this year. Scored as well I think.

pandemic, Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

yeah no england player has been as good at a tournament recently as ribery was in 2006

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

even in the first game he looked the only threat france had but hansen was still 'this ribery kid showed nothing'

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

what a great player he is in 2006 that time

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

My memory of the Brazil vs France game is a bit hazy due to having spent most of the preceding afternoon in the pub and Zidane kinda stole the limelight afterwards. Ribery's done nothing in this tournament.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

i don't mind chiles tbh. he's enthusiastic, which is more than can be said for lineker. itv have been way better than bbc.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

i know that's not saying much but whatever

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Not in commentary terms they haven't.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

No, Peter Drury has single-handedly seen to that.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

well yeah ignoring the commentary cos they're all awful. but itv have had keane daring to offer an opinion, martinez with his shirts and eagerness to talk tactics, southgate's decent(he understands zonal marking ffs!), strachan's harmless, carragher looks like he gives a fuck. bbc? hansen, shearer, who else have they had in? dixon's not as interesting as i thought he was when he first started. and lineker.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

argh those bbc shorts with hodgson and rooney looking into the camera and that shitty voiceover telling them "it's your time". lineker saying 'sick'. hansen. lawrenson. lineker. shearer. lineker.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

Lineker > Chiles

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

of course the very best coverage has been eurosport's with rafa ;)

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

Bashar al-Assad > Chiles

Have yet to hear anyone tip Italy to win tonight, even the bookies are backing England, sweet!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, just this minute heard Rafa tipping England to win

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

Italy will win

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

You'll never get a job in the British media with that attitude

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

I think England will win, but it's no more than a hunch on a 50-50 - and I only get to the 50-50 by assuming England will be organised, have several levels they can step up to, and will be clinical, while Italy will be disorganised, fearful and a bit wasteful.

Goodness knows where all this expectation is coming from.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

what roy learnt from his time in italy: the players will be under presure and they like tactical fouls. like every other country then roy? such a bullshitter.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno why i get pulled on my v fair hatred of the bluffer selfserving lying spaniard when chris gets to tackle woy for the most spurious of reasons long after his spited time at lfc ended

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Just think what England could have achieved with Dalglish in charge

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

otm

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

now now lads

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

hodgson's doin v well so far imo, just sayin

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

England will go 1-0 up early on, probably through a setpiece or penalty, get battered for the best part of an hour and then lose. Feel this might be the occasion for John Terry to disgrace himself in an England shirt as well.

England under Roy haven't yet had to play an attacking side with both quality and commitment and I reckon Italy will beat them pretty comfortably.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

Italy being a wee bit underrated by English pundits. Just a tad.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno why i get pulled on my v fair hatred of the bluffer selfserving lying spaniard when chris gets to tackle woy for the most spurious of reasons long after his spited time at lfc ended

it's the way he thinks he's imparting pearls of wisdom every time he opens his mouth. he is doing a decent job indeed, not denying that. he's being hodgson. i'm even convinced england are gonna win the thing! but the love fest is making me sick.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

think that quoted sentence fairly answers itself.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

i wonder if gary neville makes those sex noises on the bench when england score.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

The Juventus midfielder feels the Three Lions have been unimpressive so far at the European Championship, and is confident the Azzurri will exploit their weaknesses.

"People talk about England playing the Italian way, but that's rubbish. Only Italy can play the Italian way. And we do not care for anyone who tries to impersonate us," Pirlo stated to Sky Sports.

"Maybe they will adopt a different approach against us, but I doubt it because in some ways they are very predictable.

"I have seen some of England's games in this tournament. They have been more practical than impressive, and we are confident of beating them.

"They have weaknesses that we can exploit, particularly in midfield. They are missing some key players and I think we will have the measure of them in that area.

"They also look very nervous at times in defence and, France aside, they have not had to play against too many big nations."

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

so fucking otm

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

Virginie Caprice predicted last night's match correctly:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/tietenmeisjegoktspanjefrankrijkgoed.jpg

Now she predicts a 1-0 win for England:

https://p.twimg.com/AwKPTSeCIAIfUz4.jpg

So you know. She's no octopus either.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 24 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, that's awes DanM!

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 24 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Who are England playing in the World In Motion video? I always had in mind it was Yugoslavia, but they don't look like Yugoslavs. Is it Uruguay?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

England: Hart, Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Cole, Milner, Gerrard, Parker, Young, Rooney, Welbeck. Subs: Green, Kelly, Walcott, Henderson, Carroll, Baines, Jones, Jagielka, Downing, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Defoe, Butland.

Italy: Buffon, Abate, Barzagli, Bonucci, Balzaretti, Pirlo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Montolivo, Balotelli, Cassano. Subs: Sirigu, Maggio, Chiellini, Ogbonna, Thiago Motta, Di Natale, Giaccherini, Borini, Giovinco, Diamanti, Nocerino, De Sanctis.

Referee: Pedro Proenca (Portugal)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'm right looking forward to this. Nobody does this quite like England.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

pens. probly.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

Both of these teams are worldbeaters at going out of tournaments pissing and whining and crying injustice but I'm still tipping Italy here.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

It's fucking loud in that stadium by the way.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

Either that or the BBC are economising and have been given the shit studio.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

My dad's at this, I just hope it's better than the other quarter-finals.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh no lawro

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

ooh this could be bad

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

crikey

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

wow

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

lol

caek, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus, this is looking desperate already

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

A slice, according to Lawro.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

amazing

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

fuckin hell

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow another great chance, this one for enguland

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

best save of the tournament winner

Ludo, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

all he has to do there is score it

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

fuckin hell

Ray Houghton just expressed surprise that wayne rooney wasn't deployed to man mark pirlo.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

Italy looking rattled now

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

both these sides are pretty bad

caek, Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Still can't separate Buffon and Todd Traynor.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

How'd that happen?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

Mario has to do better there.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

mario and even more so cassano looking completely off

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

Was an excellent run & pass, nobody at fault there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

ffs at least get them on target from there

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Decent move

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Cassano's made some weird choices so far

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

Cassano really looking like pish

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

England settling for being the passive side now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

ie have gone to shit already

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

italy looking like pish, tbh

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

May the least pish side win

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

cassano powering one into ashley cole's backside

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Loving this tbh

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Is the pitch particularly slippery or are England just incapable of staying on their feet?

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Rooney's passing has been so rotten

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

xp They should stop slamming Diamond Whites before the match.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

ashley young/rooney/gerrard joke

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

excellent stuff, another 45 like that please

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol at Lawro not getting/ruining the mole joke

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

balotelli's ball control is so good.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

is it? his first touch under a high ball's very good, but other than that idk

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

No, it is. The touch killing it over the top was neat, but wrong in that particular move.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

This panel is being pretty withering about England's defence.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

his second touch in that instance is fucking rubbish, come on?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

i am so fucking sick of shearer's shirt cleavage get one fucking tailor you horrible horrible cunt

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ashley Young hasn't done much tonight

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

young has been awful

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

xp

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

oh fucks sake

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

holy smokes daniele.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

tough shot to take on De Rossi, but jeez you're firing into a 135° target

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

not practicing offside traps is gonna be the new not practicing penalties I think

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

what is this

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

bloody hell, a bit early for this

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

England's pissweak defense vs Italy's pissweak shooting

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Milner shows them how to do it

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

dumb American speaking: when do these fools fuckin score

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

omfg

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

you're sayin' what we're all thinkin'

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

split alligiences btw, have both English and Italian blood

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

stage is set for big Andy

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

xp So you can think that England are shit and that Italy are shit.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Sunday, 24 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I think I like Italy bc of balotelli's righteous mohawk

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Theo for Milner's a bit iffy imo

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

psyched for carroll to masterblaster this shit beyond thunderdome

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

young absolute waste tonight

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Oh you cunts, don't wish injuries on people ffs

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

That was England's first credible attempt at scoring in how long?

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

omg england are FUCKING STUPID. play till the whistle!!!!!!

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

staggered Young is still on the pitch

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

<3 pirlo casually gliding around like he's down the park with his kids (after picking them up from school).

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Neither will get past Germany

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

has become too awful to watch

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Italy never lose to Germany, but yeah

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

SHUT UP LAWRO

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

rip steven gerrard

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

pirlo imperious as all got out

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

xp unintentional homoerotic sports imagery

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

this is hopeless

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

three times in the same passage, giving it away before getting anywhere near halfway

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

and yet

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

de rossi out, madness

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

not another half an hour of this shite plz god

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

what's the point of defensive backpedalling if Italy still get to play five-yard passes unchallenged 25 yards from England's goal

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

lol lawro

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

LAWRO PLEASE FUCK OFF

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

England going to nick this imo

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

and again haha

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

"hoping for tu tu"

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

'tu tu' was great, where'd that come from?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

lawro is just sat there doodling or something

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

that was an opening, wasted

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

Rooney's first touch has been atrocious.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

well done Johnson

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

england asking for it atm

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

How. Many. Chances. Will. Italy. Fuck. Up?

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Abate's been excellent, but I suspect any right back's going to have joy down there

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

oh rooney oh deary deary me

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Can't believe that didn't end up in the net

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Ninety minutes and 0-0; this is why America will never cotton to this sport. Also, the fact that most important matches are shown during the day, when we're at work. When will this horrible soccer hegemony end? I want to watch Spain v Portugal without calling in sick.

Virginia Plain, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

first 0-0 of the tourney

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

That was England's best move of the game. Is Defoe on the bench?

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

y

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

was about to quip that rooney made the mistake of hitting the ball with his boot, then cunt commentator got in before me :'(.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

SEVEN NATION ARMY!

― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:17 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


Just had this same thought, finally

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking hell

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

"west ham reject"

Nice.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

losing to a mishit cross would not be bad luck at this point

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

bet diamanti's gutted about that 'rejection' now.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Can we not knock it?

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe the goal posts should be moved further apart.

Virginia Plain, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

They'll get on that once they've moved all matches to US prime time.

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

slow motion replays of terry shouting, bad idea.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

told you this would be thrilling

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

whenever England exit this tournament it will be as winners of the true content, that of charging down the most shots from close range

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

How are Italy not winning?

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

sugar

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

fucking hell, name on the trophy or what

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

"You thought it couldn't get more dramatic" - erm, no.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

hope you all have gneville.mp3 queued

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

how the fuck is my five year old staying awake through this?

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Our possession in extra time must be < 20%

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

nelsons

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GWqmqGsTTBI/0.jpg

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

england to win it

balotelli to miss

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

booyah

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Aw, just leave the panel on to jabber over this

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

or not

andy carroll has surely played his way ahead of wayne rooney for the wc qualifiers now btw

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

joe hart otm

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

oof

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

something about that corner huh

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

whoops

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

peno takers knowing they have to hit a corner is worth so much in a shootout

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

rooney surely misses

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

otm

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

Crikey, England lead

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

lol that was the most 'i'm gonna miss' pre-pen routine ever

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

*bows*

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

oh man

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Looked terrified.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

arses

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

never gonna score

they should just administer result based on closeup of taker before shot

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

good game for young huh

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

This is just ridiculous.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

do yanks have anything like penos in their 'sports' ned

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

hart is such a moron.

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

very lazy

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

dreadful

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

reject

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

oh, engerland

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

Oh well

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

Only just finish.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

blame hodgson for letting young take one imo, the performance before the shootout is U&K

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

(there are penos in hockey, but only in the regular season -- in the playoffs they just go until someone scores)

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

At least it was the two players who couldn't be hated more

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

west ham reject

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

the two ashleys eh

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

just two IK? be srs

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Wtf was hart doing with those aggro faces? Pirlo merked him. Knew Young would miss.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Shit, what am I saying - take it JT was down for no.5

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Darraghmac: I'm not up on my hockey as I should be but unless they have something like that, nope.

What a fucking slog of a game, Germany's probably just laughing a bit.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

germany italy

spain portugal

tasty

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

at least with Young's you felt he had a settled idea of how he was going to hit it even if it was a dipshit idea

Cole obv just looked at the last two Italian penos and thought, that looks like a laugh why not

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Can't complain about that: outplayed for more than an hour and would have got humped by Germany anyway.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

pirlo ran a sav all night

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Oh thanks Mookie, missed your post. I knew I'd seen hockey penalties at some point but wasn't sure where.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

penalties, a test of nerve and technique, is also a lottery.

hate that.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Italy could yet beat Germany. There was no way whatsoever England could.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

to the rooney thread

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Rooney clearly unfit. It was a waste of time taking him.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

Cole obv just looked at the last two Italian penos and thought, that looks like a laugh why not

Yes, except having paused to see which way the keeper was going he elected to hit it really softly in that direction.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

Pirlo player of the tournament <3 <3 <3

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Would've been a fucking travesty if England had won that. Still, Italy will be knackered and Germany will tonk them.

Awesome penalty from Pirlo.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

Wish this bollocks theory that England played well in the first half would be abandoned.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Croatia the only team to have gone home too soon

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Jurgen's so good at this

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

ah well, i was wrong. even i didn't think hodgson and england would fuck up that badly. amazing.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

never change

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

someone managed to take a linkin' park song and make it worse

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

Who was it? I like Linkin, and I liked that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

eh going out on penos to italy, i dunno what england coach since robson or maybe venables fucks up any less in the knockout stages of a tournament

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Charlie Adam ‏@Charlie26Adam
Get it in the mixer for the big man game over

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

is there a gif yet of Mario getting wanked off by two guys before extra time yet?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Happy for Pirlo.

Why oh why has the brave new world of being so shit and losing in 90 mins not materialised? Why wasting everyone's time with spirit and er, spirit to lose on pens?! ffs!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Hierarchy of England exits, modern era:

  • Italia 90
  • Euro 96
  • France 98
  • Portugal 04
  • Germany 06
  • this
  • Euro 2000
  • South Africa 2010
  • were England even at Euro 92?
Huge gap between 6th & 7th obviously

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

why did pirlo have so much space? why were england so deep? why didn't hodgey change it? inflexible, arrogant, clueless. he knows one way and one way only. no way are these players as technically poor as those 4 matches suggest.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure what pirlo did all match that was so damaging tbph, i musta missed a few things. italy had attacking momentum but only really damaged england when terry fucked the offside trap for balotelli a few times in the first half.

inflexible, arrogant, clueless. he knows one way and one way only. no way are these players as technically poor as those 4 matches suggest.

join the queue of last several lfc managers so tbf. if we're just grinding axes here, like.

england did not qualify for 92

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

WHAT?

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

Euro 92 = Turnipgate

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, chris, england's players have always looked technically incompetent, we have actual threads about this. english players are technically incompetent, as a unit wrt passing, touch, movement and decisions.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Rooting for the underdogs Ita and Por. Don't think the Italians have that much class at the back unfortunately and Portugal are Portugal - although they've been the best I've seen at a major tournament.

xxp = lol wtf they couldn't string five passes together toward the end of that - not Hodgson's fault.

Pirlo would have made space but yeah not as damaging as the narrative will suggest.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

nothing to do with liverpool. why when rooney broke was the rest of the team in their own half sticking to that precious shape?

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

haha sorry i misremember the followon failure to qualify for usa 94 obv

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

92 was brolin wasn't it? xposts oops

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

rooney broken through now?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

so why is there this narrative about england having done well in this comp? they played terribly for the most part. is it just cos they played shit with an english coach that nobody hates, so the fans got behind the team more? that seems to be it as far as i can see.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

Oxlade-Chamberlain for England manager 2013

owenf, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

young's and wellbeck's movement was terrible on the break, but the system tonight wasn't so much the problem as the indifferent attacking performance/nerves of young, rooney- hodgson ought to have hauled both off tbf, i'll grant you that

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal 04 > France 98

In Portugal England actually looked good for about two and a half matches. In France they scraped out of a shit group, then lost to a team who lost to a team who lost to a team who lost the final.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

There was no one on the bench who would've done better than Rooney or Welbeck. Carroll wasn't any good.

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

why is there this narrative about england having done well in this comp?

Relatively speaking, they have done. I much prefered watching the group games this time around to the utterly tedious shit that England served up in South Africa (or the largely insipid displays in Germany, for that matter).

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

england's players have always looked technically incompetent, we have actual threads

Certainly the impression I've received throughout my entire football hating and approx one England match a year watching life. Other teams: possession, passing. England: long balls, passes to nowhere.

Jesu swept (ledge), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

xp

NBS otm why is there a narrative that rates all England performances the same instead of comparing their achievements across tournaments?

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

yes england have always looked technically inferior, but hodgson doesn't even set teams up to pass, to control, to dominate. england have been outplayed in almost all of hodgson's games. coincidence? and we want this guy to lead the st george's park revolution?

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

Eng have done really well, but only if you compare to past perfs at the Euros that are set away from home. To top the group with a manager that has just taken over w/several injuries (Wilshere, Lampard) does = well.

What isn't ever faced (as per the beeb) is that we are as bad as Greece (say), whom the media here have no right to criticise. multiple xps

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

Relatively speaking, they have done. I much prefered watching the group games this time around to the utterly tedious shit that England served up in South Africa (or the largely insipid displays in Germany, for that matter).

true, but that's relative to an absolute low. i guess the swedish game was exciting enough that it got people behind the team. england weren't great that night either though.

scott parker btw, knew he'd be found out at this level, he's just not international class.

xpost they haven't played well though, and they only topped the group due to the incompetence of others and a massive refereeing error. don't delude yourselves.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't England just in an easy group this time?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

England in a relatively easy group, short of players with technical ability, leaden and inflexible tactically. Still their best tournament performances since 2004 probably.

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

and 2004 not a question of being a better side, just a younger, bolder Rooney

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

Fair enough, but most people thought (for once) that Eng were not going to get out of that group and Eng did show something to come back against Sweden.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

the only thing that England were brilliant at was getting their body in front of someone shooting. the whole team should have been dropped for footballing reasons

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

but that's relative to an absolute low

Not really. In the time I've been watching they failed to qualify in 84, lost every game in 88, were humiliated in 92, were dreadful in 00, and failed to qualify in 08. The relatively good times of 96 and 04 were the exception, rather than the norm.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

(xp to Ken) England were in an easy group in South Africa as well, yet made a much worse job of getting out of it.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

enough about england. lawrenson's had some stinkers, but that must've been the absolute worst.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't heard much of a narrative about England being great. The TV panels have called them poor in possession, flaky at the back and uninspired going forward throughout. Nobody was calling them good when they drew with France in the tournament's most inept game, or when they conceded two daft goals against Sweden or when they scraped past Ukraine with the help of a myopic linesman. The only thing i've seen much of has been "perhaps when you're playing this badly and progressing it could be your year".

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

one of the best things about watching in the pub is the inaudible commentary

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

you can turn the commentary off on the red button but i don't think the sound quality is as good. and i like to be able to hear the england band, obv.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

Not really. In the time I've been watching they failed to qualify in 84, lost every game in 88, were humiliated in 92, were dreadful in 00, and failed to qualify in 08. The relatively good times of 96 and 04 were the exception, rather than the norm.

i've seen every major tournament since 1990 and i'd say 2010 was about the worst they've played and the most humiliating exit. not qualifying is obv worse but if we're talking performances after they get to a tournament.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

I forgot Japan 02, this was better than that

I was just comparing exits btw - 2004 was probably the best overall performance, and you can make a good case for that being the one England should've won (and spared us Greece to boot)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

darragh, i do see the sense in him setting the team up this way for this tournament, and i do appreciate that coming into the job so late wasn't ideal. my concern is what happens going forward. which tbf isn't just down to hodgson but the fa as well, but still.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Really hoping for a couple of belters now in the SFs. QFs were so one-sided.

Eng comedy spirit made this the best game - not saying much.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

what will happen going forward will have as much to do with the standard of available players as it does with Woy i think, he had a pretty weak deck to play with this go round

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

Really wished Ita won after 90 mins and destroyed Eng -- these wishy-washy heroics till pens really stop people from comfronting the v poor quality of what is produced. But yeah yeah we've had this one time and again on ILX.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

Rooney clearly unfit. It was a waste of time taking him.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:30 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd replace 'unfit' with 'shit' tbh. what has he got to be unfit about? he didn't look like he cared that he looked like a travesty of his 'reputation' tonight.

it's not roy or his system, it's that our players clearly can't play beyond the domestic season with anything like the effort they put in from august to may (with no mid-season break, 2 domestic cup comps, europe etc, and the insistence it seems of only picking players from the top 6 (or so, liverpool being the exception)).

we're shit and we know we are.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

There was no one on the bench who would've done better than Rooney or Welbeck. Carroll wasn't any good.

they'd have done better to start with carroll and welbeck and pretend that rooney was injured. the seemingly enforced post-suspension inclusion of rooney was the downfall of this campaign.

having said that i'm more than happy not to get tonked by the germans.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

He wasn't match-sharp in either game, and couldn't run after the hour mark in this one. You know why he was left on, but again that's the other major weakness of hoping something'll turn up.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

thought taking off milner was odd, i felt he played very well.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

Milner was wide open on the right about 500 times.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ox for Young wd perhaps have been better than Walcott for Milner but i wdn't go as far as saying Milner played very well and the system obviously stopped at the halfway line anyway

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

But I mean other than Defoe, whom I do rate, what's the alternative, Grant Holt? England do not have that many good players is ultimately why they don't win things. Even with the perfect system they still wouldn't.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

Not really the system, England didn't have the players to change things up in midfield, as proven by having to bring on Jordan Henderson.

Above all England's players just aren't good enough, and they need a playmaker and a clever screening midfielder desperately.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

will tonight's exit have increased or decreased the value of the premier league product for 2012/13?

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

rights are already sold so immaterial probably

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

Makes no difference to the Premiership.

Quite possible that Defoe's head just wasn't right, his dad died a fortnight ago.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

Nobody's watching it for the Englishmen, c'mon.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

if an englisher had tried pirlo's penalty strategy and been stopped, would that englisher be now facing death threats?

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

can't agree that parker was any worse in his position than the average england player or that carroll was poor when he came on tonight- he won header after header without any other attacker moving to profit.

Felt england played to their 'strengths' to get as far as they did in this tourney- possession, one-touch pass and move, touch, movement- these are not english strengths. Absorbption, determination at cb and cm, darting attacks using power, delivery from wide/set plays, these are england strengths.

Hodgson's main fault was relying on rooney to make anything happen beyond that. Rooney hasn't been that guy in years. Worse, rooney was at the end of most chances that were created by a reasonably well functioning gerrard/milner/johnson unit from the right, and the odd young/cole cross from the left, so those few breaks were fuckin wasted and all.

Carroll or defoe were both better choices tonight, and blatantly so after 60 mins.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

agree with all of that

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

Tbf, Darragh, Hodgson could have been swayed by the majestic header that Rooney scored in the previous match. 'Goal of the tournament, nay, the century,' I believe Ronan called it.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

pooh-pooh grant holt a little more there lads, then consider how many league goals twp would chalk up in that team.

England no more lack players to fit a functioning system than italy- who carried a few men tonight and who have not played well bar once in this tournament- nor a couple of other teams that reached the quarters (in portugal's case, the semis)

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

Parker's okay and did okay, but he obviously isn't the class that's needed here. Look at the semifinalists - three of them have De Rossi, Schweinsteiger and Busquets doing that job.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

i don't like rooney. a lot.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

Aside from Buffon saving Johnson's shot, their best chance was Welbeck's miss after exchanging passes with Rooney. And if Carroll playing 'well' amounts to neither scoring nor linking with teammates then I don't see what the point of playing him is.

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

tbf to twp- and i don't like to be, he gets more praise than he has ever near merited- he is a better finisher for utd than he shows for england. And he was ok tonight on the break- for some reason he was in this role as opposed to gerrard?

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

England seemed set up to play with carroll as a target man but were stuck knocking balls in to a rooney who couldn't be arsed.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

not carroll's fault his perfect knockdowns are ignored five or six times in 30 mins, tbh.

On tonight's performance alone i'd have him at spurs.

Parker's role isn't equivalent to di rossi's- who was poor tonight and not much cop vs us either.

Nor busquet's, tho if yr argument is 'isn't as good as spanish equivalent' then wtf at singling out parker.

Same goes for germany tbh.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

i thought italy were pretty good, apart from the lack of conviction in front of goal. they passed the ball beautifully.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah it sort of is his fault, if knockdowns are what a player is being judged on - if knockdowns are all he's good for, at that - he's not an international class centre forward, not in this century at any rate.

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

Carroll looked like he's been practicing chest control but forgot to practice passing

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

dmac/localg were you rooting for england?

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

Lol, hardly anyone roots for England around these parts. Or admits to anyway.

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not against england in a big way but i would find it odd to cheer for them. i try to be positive towards them but can't help lolling when they concede or lose. and tonight i really didn't want them to win the penalty shoot-out because a win would have been so undeserved.

i also have italy in the sweep at work but that's neither here nor there given germany await.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

i'm more interested in them being in it than not.

I'd cheer them against italy anyway.

Again, pooh-poohing a player that can turn a 60 yard hoof into a ground pass in one touch pretty much every time would be fine if england had the players in midfield to retain, recycle and use possession effectively. They don't. There was very little wrong with carroll's aerial game tonight, he probably won close to 4/5 of his headers. If young or rooney aren't waiting for the knock-on there is fuck all he can do more for them. He tried, successfully, to take a few down out of the air and bring them in, but that wasn't enticing them either- young didn't even want to be on the pitch at that stage.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

RIP, I guess: A soccer fan in China has died after staying up for 11 straight nights to watch every game of Euro 2012, according to a report in Chinese newspaper Sanxiang Metropolis.

boxall, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

Poor guy was watching in the middle of the night, then going to work - I have a lot of respect for pandemic and his commitment to the sport but I hope he's taking care of himself.

boxall, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

it's a little ridiculous that the match started at 21:45 local time

mookieproof, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:56 (eleven years ago) link

this escaped me earlier but

i'm not sure what pirlo did all match that was so damaging tbph, i musta missed a few things.

yeah I think you must've! Italy couldn't finish and the opposition wasn't of the highest quality but still, that was a commanding performance.

boxall, Monday, 25 June 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

poor chinese guy. that's exactly what i'm doing, but usually go to bed at 5am to grab at least a couple hours sleep.

Jibe, Monday, 25 June 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

Diamanti scored eight goals, though only three came from open play with most coming from penalty kicks. On 4 May 2010 he was voted runner-up as Hammer of the Year by the club's supporters, for the 2009–10 season, behind winner Scott Parker.[7]

glad wiki remembers this too. diamanti was a really fun player at west ham and commentators calling him a reject can go fuck themselves.

I only saw this from 70 mins onwards. England were fucking dour. One thing that really annoyed me was the misuse of Theo and Carroll. Carroll was doing really well in the air but with no-one following up, it was pointless. That seemed the role Gerrard should be playing. And how fucking hard is it to play a decent ball for Theo to run behind a full back? I think Scott Parker overhit one and they just thought 'its not worth it, he can't even get on the end of that one' and just decided not to play w/ him after that.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 05:48 (eleven years ago) link

http://tf-chalkboards.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/images/09Xqy.png

Arrow: pass (blue = successful, red = unsuccessful); Arrow: defended the ball; Cross: tackle (orange: successful, purple: unsuccessful). Green heart: interception; Grey rectangle: shot by opponent blocked

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 June 2012 06:28 (eleven years ago) link

Soz, circle is defended the ball

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 June 2012 06:29 (eleven years ago) link

For people wondering why Pirlo was so great last night. He was the heart and soul of this Italy.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 June 2012 06:31 (eleven years ago) link

Plus, Italy had 36 shots at the goal, a record this tournament:

http://tf-chalkboards.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/images/09hRx.png

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 June 2012 06:34 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, nice stats! England's one shot on target there from superstriker Glen Johnson.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Monday, 25 June 2012 07:10 (eleven years ago) link

It'll all be OK; we've got Jack Wilshere.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 08:42 (eleven years ago) link

reckon:
england 0 - 0 italy (eng win on pen 4-3)
czech rep 0 - 3 portugal
germany 1 - 1 greece (greece win on pen 5-4 FU merkel)
spain 4 - 0 france

― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:03 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty poor predictions :/

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 25 June 2012 09:14 (eleven years ago) link

It'll all be OK; we've got Jack Wilshere. Joey Barton.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 09:42 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link

So semi-serious question, who's going to be in mainstay of the England team (if we qualify) for Brazil 2014?

Joe Hart

Glen Johnson
Joleon Lescott
Martin Kelly
Leighton Baines

Jack Wilshere
Tom Cleverely
Theo Walcott
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

Wayne Rooney
Danny Welbeck

I'm not filled with confidence.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

phil jones
gary cahill

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 25 June 2012 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

rooney lol

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

cleverly
smalling
young

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

the possible team in 2 years time >>>>> the possible and actual one this summer

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

That's okay imo - Wilshere and Cleverley, if fit and developing properly, might sort out the minor problem of ball retention. The centre of defence looks weak tbh, Lescott has never convinced me. Though Smalling's good. I'd've had Theo on for Rooney instead of Milner last night personally, and have him as a second striker - Theo with Young means half the midfield is too lightweight, Ox may yet develop into a beefier presence. There might be a couple of new lads too - I'm thinking Sterling at Liverpool, but who knows if that'll happen really.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

Hart, two schmucks
Richards, Kelly
Baines, Gibbs
Smalling, Jones, Lescott, Cahill
Livermore, Colback, Wilshere, Cleverly, McEachran
Dyer, Sinclair, Lennon, Ox, Walcott
Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

I would have liked to see Oxo cube, the iron baby, come in to the midfield for Parker and Walcott on for Young who should have been subbed if not at the start of the second half then at the start of the game or the tournament itself

Would never have let him take a penalty tbh

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link

I guess that is 1 player too many (23 man squad innit) before Milner, Carroll, THUDD...

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link

oh i forgot Young as well, maybe because he was so shitty last night.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'm quite excited about the future England team if the young quick lads are allowed to run about a bit and pass the ball around - think it's a better combination with Walcott/Ox/Welbeck than with Carroll upfront though

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:12 (eleven years ago) link

repeat every two years forever

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

now that the joke team of the tourno is out we can concentrate on some decent semi finals.

germany 2 - italy 0
portugal 1 - spain 3

PSOD (Ste), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

Watching the game last night I somehow didn't notice England were as bad as everyone is saying, I thought they did alright. They played quite well for 30 minutes of the game and had some chances, and that exceeded most of my expectations. I just wish Young had got subbed because he looked like the worst player on the pitch and there no point him being there

Although my friend - who doesn't watch football at all - said Rooney should have been sent off "for being shit"

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

no livermore, thudd, no credibility btw

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not seeing a glittering England future for Carroll, who, as someone said on Twitter last night, looks like an early-90s ecstacy dealer.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

He looks like the first man who ever lived

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

He looks Brendan Fraser in that one film

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

A neanderthal living with humans for the first time and trying to work out how the world works

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

3-1 is madness. It'll be 1-0, I dearly hope to Portugal.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

Looking forward to the remake of that with Kevin Nolan teaching Andy Carroll how to be a human being xp

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

no livermore, thudd, no credibility btw

― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 11:15 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hart, two schmucks
Richards, Kelly
Baines, Gibbs
Smalling, Jones, Lescott, Cahill
Livermore, Colback, Wilshere, Cleverly, McEachran
Dyer, Sinclair, Lennon, Ox, Walcott
Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 11:09 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh hei

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo will score 2 is my predo.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

I should add that I'm not quite excited about future England team in the sense of them winning anything, I just massively prefer them to these guys and can't wait for Terry etc to get tae fuck. It's a team I'd be happier about supporting however shit they may end up being

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

I mean I support Arsenal, winning isn't the most important thing

Pretty blasé tbh

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:20 (eleven years ago) link

they come as a unit imo sam

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

Oh Suedey, but I'm p certain that just because Terry and Stevie Me are leaving doesn't mean Carroll and Wilshere and maybe one or two more unsavoury characters (Morrison?) won't take their place.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

Wilshere is a lovely lad how dare you

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

Guy Mowbray: "Gerrard is England's Pirlo"

(^o^)

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

Carroll is indefensible obvs, and not in the sense that he's unplayable etc etc

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

Come to think of it, why was nobody closing down Pirlo? The only other thing I noticed during the game, and esp after everyone ever was like "yeah you can't give him an time or you're fucked"

Gave him way too much time on the penalty, Hart should have mooned or something. I expect he still would have been indifferent tho

<3 Pirlo

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

Easily the 4 best teams in the tourney have made it thru to the SF's so that's cool. Possibly Croatia the only other one to feel unlucky. If Germany-Italy is as good as '06 I'll be happy, happier still if Germany win this time.

England were England, able to draw against the first decent team they face in the knockout stages.

Pirlo was magnificent.

Got Thurs, Fri and Monday off so I can now watch the rest of the tourney without managing on 3 hrs sleep a night. Hurray!

pandemic, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

Wilshere only spits on Tottenham fans.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

Lawrenson was a disgrace last night, just fucking awful

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

England seemed happy and keen to mark Pirlo for the first 40 minutes or so, and then gave up, as if they (like the commentators) were convinced he'd get tired, or something. Because someone playing the way he does is likely to get tired, with all those gut-busting runs from deep. Idiocy.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

Lawro's best moment: the main commentator said something like "What else has Pirlo got up his sleeve?" and Lawro responded "His shirt". wtf?!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

i'mma stan harder for carroll the worse ye get

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

We all come to expect ITV to be shite but the BBC coverage has been abysmal, far worse

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

Keane's misanthropy has been a beacon of joy.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

IMO Hart, Glen Johnson and Lescott have all been good in this tournanment, the rest have ranged from ordinary to Dyer dire. Surely Stevie G's England career is over, he completed 30-something passes in 120 minutes that's less than West Ham reject Diamanti managed in a third of the time! Good riddance too, most overrated footballer in my lifetime.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

These semi finals are definitely as they should be, glad England aren't there clogging it up

Thought the QF's were pretty disappointing in all though, thought Italy England was actually the most enjoyable and entertaining game among them

Germany Greece was ok but Greece, so

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, seconded on Hart, Johnson, and Lescott, they've all been really good. Kind of baffled that Johnson is 27, nearly 28 - kind of assumed he was still about 24 and we had years and years left of him as a quality rightback.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

There was some stat going around that Gerrard only got passed the ball something like 23 times by teammates? Which was less than Cole/Johnson etc, about the same as Parker and that when play is supposed to be going through him that's pretty shocking

And that the most frequent passing combination was Hart to Carroll, for all the good that did

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

Were Greece any less entertaining and ambitious than England - remember they were playing Germany!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

Seedorf and Klinsmann have made BBC tolerable.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, but I wish they didn't feel the need to be so polite about England

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

It's not been a great tournament so far, hardly any really exciting games.

Matt DC, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

"When I was director of football at Real Madrid I had to evaluate the players coming through the youth ranks" he said. "We had some who were very good footballers. They had technique, they had athleticism, they had drive, they were hungry. But they lacked what I call knowing-how-to-play-football. They lacked decision making. They lacked positioning.They didn't have the subtle sensitivity of football: how a player should move within the collective.And for many, I wasn't sure they were going to learn. You see, strenght, passion, technique, athleticism, all of these are very important. But they are a means to an end, not an end in itself.They help you reach your goal, which is putting your talent at the service of the team and, by doing this, making both of you and the team greater. In situations like that, I just have to say, Gerrard's a great footballer, but perhaps not a great player."

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link

For ten minutes last night I thought we were in for an awesome end-to-ender, but clearly that petered out. I love watching the Spanish from a technical POV, but they're not exciting, no. The Germans are probably the most exciting team for me, with Portugal second (and some distance away, because basically I mean 'Ronaldo is exciting').

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link

Who's that quote from? It's spot-on.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know, I've enjoyed this tournament, the overall quality's been pretty good + very little diving/ play acting + no bad fouls + pretty good refereeing

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link

Last night was the first 0-0 draw, too.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

otm re spain, germany SM

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link

Arrigo Sacchi - amazing quote

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link

Aside from our perpetual inability to maintain possession, there's been nothign to get angry or miffed about at this tournament. But there's also been nothing to get agog at, either.

Has anyone scored with a strike from outside the box that wasn't a free-kick?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

Lahm
Poland's captain

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

Theo deflection

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

The tournament's been good, but the QFs have suffered from being four mismatches. The legacy is all about the knockouts imo. At least the right four teams won, but whether that means we get two more mismatches in the semis, or there's three absolute belters to come, we can't know yet.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

I just meant Germany were always going to beat Greece - at least England kept you guessing until the end! I'd say England > France, Czech, Greece in this tournament

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

nasri against england (though it might have been the edge of the box) xp

Jibe, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link

None of those were exactly top-corner screamers, were they? I suspect Theo's got a slight deflection. Lahm's was very neatly taken, as was the Polish dude's. Seeing Balotelli at al balloon it over from 20-30 yards out has been depressing, same as at last WC.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link

van der vaart was outside the box, but not a screamer no.

pandemic, Monday, 25 June 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

it was a cracker tho

Best strike of the tournament hit hart's post last night

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

Don't worry Ronaldo will keep trying

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

Xabi might get bored and smack one too

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

He used to play in England iirc

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

zlatan v. france is the best, f a screamer

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

Martial arts volley

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

rooney's header up there too

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

Don't worry Ronaldo will keep trying

And he's a lot better at it than Balotelli

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

zlatan v. france is the best, f a screamer

otm

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

darragh otm re: rooney's header

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 25 June 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

fuck off re: rooney's header, darragh otm in general.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

the audacity of rooney attempting a header from there was something else.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 25 June 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

He should've licked it in with his tongue.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

Do Swansea have better more technically sound players than England?

Chris, Monday, 25 June 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://i45.tinypic.com/30vyyah.jpg

Matt DC, Monday, 25 June 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

exactly!

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

(Let's get real here, Swansea wouldn't be able to control a game against Italy either).

Matt DC, Monday, 25 June 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

tho i'd amend, chris, less that be interpreted as a go at hodgson, that his wba and fulham teams played better than england too. It is an international malaise, this.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

I like that some of the Italians' boots are in the colour of their flag.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

xp. i wasn't having a go at hodgson! just asking a genuine question fella ;)

Chris, Monday, 25 June 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link

i was wondering how we cd stop people making terrible football songs tbh

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

having been subjected to some horrendous rework of "Come On Eileen" before the match last night that made me quite stabby

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

A bit bemused by how many reports this morning seem to think Rooney was lacking match fitness/sharpness. He started the tourney a whole one week later than everyone else in the squad FFS. Reus didn't play until Germany's 4th game and he looked fine.

pandemic, Monday, 25 June 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

The fact that he coul;dn't run after the 60th minute, coupled with the fact that his first touch (and second touch, and passing, and shooting, and general control) was way off in both his matches, suggests he wasn't quite up to the pace. Why this is the case, fuck knows.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

Also laughed at Alan Shearer thinking he was telling it like it is when he said England have to accept that they are 5th, 6th or 7th best in the world. They really aren't Alan.

pandemic, Monday, 25 June 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

1 Spain 1456 0 Equal
2 Uruguay 1292 1 Up
3 Germany 1288 -1 Down
4 Netherlands 1234 0 Equal
5 Brazil 1155 1 Up
6 England 1145 1 Up
7 Argentina 1137 2 Up
8 Croatia 1053 0 Equal
9 Denmark 1019 1 Up
10 Portugal 996 -5 Down
11 Chile 994 2 Up
12 Italy 977 0 Equal
13 Russia 975 -2 Down
14 France 964 2 Up
15 Greece 953 -1 Down
16 Côte d'Ivoire 943 -1 Down
17 Sweden 910 0 Equal
18 Republic of Ireland 907 0

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

Look! We're 6th!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

Better than Argentina.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

duh, who do they have that would make the england team

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

better than Italy

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 June 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

i think letting the fucking england band back into the stadium has been the downfall.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

gerrard was visibly affected by the bad music

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

"No-one expected us to get out the group stage"

Also Jack Wilshere and Tom Cleverly will win the next World Cup for England

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

they will?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

So I've heard

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Oh well, now that England's campaign is out of the way we can look forward to the main event. Is it still July 9th the trial starts?

oh god here come the cardiacs fans (Matt #2), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

when are the semis? i presume the 3rd place playoff - if they do such a thing - is sat and final is sunday?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

I don't believe there is a 3rd place playoff. Final on Sunday.

Getting your retaliation in first (xp)

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

there isn't a playoff is there?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

No playoff. Semis Wednesday & Thursday, final Sunday. Trial eight days after that.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

101gg has tons of pirlo panenka penalties too

'what was on joe hart's ipad'

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

Were Greece any less entertaining and ambitious than England - remember they were playing Germany!

I'd say yes. Not that England set the tournament on fire or anything, but they didn't set out to be ultra defensive last night and we had about half an hour of lively end-to-end attacking to start off with. England just faded badly and looked completely knackered (and clueless and outplayed) as the game wore on.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Italy looked a bit nervous to start off with, from about 30 mins on they'd got it together and England barely got a kick of the ball thereafter... whereas with Greece, Big Sami scored!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, but only when he *had to* (because they were losing). Greece didn't actually have any ambition beyond defending with ten men and hoping for penalties or a miracle. England ended up in that situation after an hour or so, but didn't set out to play that way.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

winter break!

Chris, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

... which teams would fill up with friendlies in China/ Qatar/ Timbuktu etc

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

Verder: de voetbalaristocraat Pirlo. Toch net iets cooler dan Xabi Alonso.

― OMC, Monday, June 25, 2012 8:32 AM (6 hours ago)

ismael klata's de dubjectivisten account reveal

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

lol dubjectivisten

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/willy-england-fan-spotted-showing-penis-diamanti-scored-italys-winning-penalty/

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:55 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Asad3

typical dirty disgusting brits with no class...glad they lost now
32 minutes ago
Dan

Thats plenty classy Asad. Are u afraid of penis? Why dont you donate yours to charity or a charity of lesbians.
26 minutes ago

onimo, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

I recorded the game last night and the V+ box stopped recording at 119 minutes :(

onimo, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

I shouldn't laff at those 101gg comments but oh dear. Just the phrasing of online idiot comments make me lol.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not filled with confidence.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, June 25, 2012 9:44 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nor me with rooney huffing and puffing in the brazilian climate. in four years time in france i imagine he'll just walk around the pitch, thinking about his hair.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

Joe Hart looking suitably gutted

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5e/40/b7/z12009566X,Pilkarze-angielscy-wyjezdzaja-z-Krakowa.jpg

onimo, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

oh awesome nothing better than the biannual late June "here is a photo of an England player smiling during a private conversation 12 hours or so after exiting a tournament, what a disgrace to his nation" mouthbreatherfest

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

This is only them leaving Poland, wait till they hit the beach.

onimo, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

he appears to have a stiffy too

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

His goal in life was getting that plastic bag

StanM, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

tbf he had that silly grin during the penalty shootout too

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

That's his menacing glare.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

i believe he's a great goalkeeper mainly cause he seems insane.

mizzell, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

He looks like Jake LaMotta crying there, give the guy a break

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

Joe hart saw rooney's hair in that pic

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

why did he stick his tongue out before trying to not save the penalties too?

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

leighton baines looks like a bbc costume designer's version of someone from the north, in the 70s.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 25 June 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

christ i formatted that badly, sorry everyone.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

Phil Brown on 5Live last night wondering why German's and Italian's don't seem to come and play in the Prem.

"You look at Pirlo and wonder for the life of you why he's not come to England, is he um homophobic...".

I'm not sure that's really the term you were looking for Phil.

pandemic, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

well *something* must be wrong with him

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

cos he doesnt need to be shawxed

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

do they even have leagues in Germany and Italy?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

that is pretty amazing

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7LquvfeQA

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

P H I L  B R O W N  I S  P H I L  B R O W N

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

wtf? is that edited, or does he think "homophobic" means afraid of leaving home?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

xenophobic

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

Well you know how these Italians love their mamas

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

We lost to a better team, not a world-class team, an ordinary Italian team; with the exception of Andrea Pirlo I wouldn’t have swapped a single player for any of ours.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/903278-ashley-cole-and-young-not-to-blame-the-team-caused-euro-2012-exit-mark-bright

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

mark bright is just the most retarded worthless fucking mouth breather

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

In the immortal words of Slaven Bilic "wake up you fucking cretin".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

And your licence fee is paying his wages

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

the contempt for reason is so extreme it is just

an entire team outplays another team and that is down to the one player who they have already heard of, it's like every player other than pirlo (and balotelli) does not really exist, the rest of the world is just a fungible collection of anonymous foreigns who just randomly coagulate into teams to play england every few years

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

And, while we're at it, why won't the Scots, Welsh, Norn Irish just get behind the British team

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i did figure xenophobic as well. still, INCREDIBLY thick mistake to make, surely the word "homophobic" is ubiquitous now.

bright has a long history of saying dumb shit, he confused ireland and northern ireland last year then made it signifcantly more dumb when he got annoyed with people tweeting complaints at him, in a sort of "what's the difference anyway???! chill out!" way.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link

amazing to try parsing the reptile logic of phil brown

there are better players in other countries >> england has the best league >> why don't they come to england >> they hate england

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

I thought there was a "west ham reject" in the italian team

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

The England team is usually full of those too

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link

is it really true that diamanti made more passes in 40 mins than gerrard in 120?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link

Apparently. Gerrard knacked by having to play in the best league in the world I suppose.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link

playing "Out There Somewhere" at the moment and it syncs rather nicely with that gif

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

idk about mentioning balotelli with pirlo, this is the balotelli that missed 2-3 one on ones and kicked the ball out of the stadium twice.

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

i mean he's obviously the world's greatest player it's just y'know when does he ever do anything?

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

FOUND OUT

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

just not found, tbh

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but u think andy carroll isn't waste

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

Balotelli plays in the Premiership therefore he is obv. Italy's best player. Bit like when Freddie Ljungberg was the obv. the best player in a Swedish team that included Zlatan AND Henrik Larsson.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

i think andy carroll's got the makings of a particularly effective centre forward in him.

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

1. Half the Italy team plays for Juve, who didn't even make it into the Europa. If most English journo knowledge comes from the CL (unless a team beats Utd in the Europa), it isn't exactly surprising they don't know these guys, even if it is frustrating.

2. With an Italian Chelsea manager and an exotic Italian team (see #1) knocking England out, the Daily Mail and the Sun are going to write soooooooo many shitty false transfer stories about Montilivo or whoever going to Chelsea.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link

Zlatan at his peak > Ljungberg at that time > Henrik at the time > Zlatan at the time

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

zlatan, now he's waste.

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

Ljungberg at that time > Henrik at the time

You wouldn't have guessed that from their respective performsnces in the tournament

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

straight gooner challops

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah my bad the guy who was an integral part in one of the greatest teams ever was shit.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

lol yeah, he was shit, definitely

Or, are you saying that one of the best players in britain for almost a decade was 'shit'?

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't say he was shit, I said it was gooner challopy to place him in front of Henrik Larsson.

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

ibrahimovic is considerably better than either of the others ever were

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

larsson was better than ljungberg tho

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw I was a big admirer of Freddie and I was a great disappointment when a broken old husk of a man bearing his name turned up at Celtic Park for a pay check.

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

he came back from injury in 2007 or thereabouts and had completely lost his acceleration

without it he was trash, barely even milner level

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

ibrahimovic is considerably better than either of the others ever were

With Zlatan at his best I'd agree, but he so often looks so cba that I'd probably still rather have peak Henke in my team.

Also my spectacles are green-tinted as Henke remains the best team forward it has ever been my pleasure to see regularly.

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

No I am just fucking annoyed that supporting one of the best 20 players of the 00 decade is 'challops'. Larsson was v good those two and a half seasons in proper football, sitting on the bench for Barca and Utd.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

aka Larsson didn't play in the premiership, therefore wasn't good

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

he so often looks so cba that I'd probably still rather have peak Henke in my team.

....

― onimo, Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22 PM (54 seconds ago)

nobody of his size is going to be scurrying about like park js

his attitude isn't always great but that's more to do with his tendency to sulk if the rest of the team aren't exactly subservient to his needs

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

ljungberg wasn't even very good for more than a couple years tbrr, larsson was excellent in scotland and europe for years and years, and probably peaked before he ever retired to utd, so tbh sam that's actually shitetalk man

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

i mean ljungberg barely makes top 20 gooner players in the 00's tbpfh

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

No I am just fucking annoyed that supporting one of the best 20 players of the 00 decade is 'challops'.

He's not one of the best 20 players of the 00s, nowhere near.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

i smellll a big voting thread

Oh wait, sam never finished that..... CONSPIRACY

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

come on ljungberg barely makes top 20 swedish players of the 00's

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

was gonna say

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

the limitation of ibrahimovic (rather than just lacking passion or some tired english criticism) is that he doesn't really adapt well to playing in a team that is only half-functioning, as mancini's inter usually were in the champions league

i think one of the reasons he has just had possibly his best individual season is that milan have become a more simplistic but in some ways more reliable team, so that zlatan will always get at least a few good chances on the break, and robinho and cassano provided clever decoy runs while boateng and zlatan can just overpower defenders

with a more elaborate team like barcelona who depend on intricate passing rhythms to create openings, in more difficult games when these could become disrupted or restricted he ended up completely disengaged from the rest of the team and unable to create chances spontaneously

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

just like carroll

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

henry rvp bergkamp pires vieira cole lehmann fabregas gilberto campbell touré sagna certainly all above ljungberg

reyes arshavin adebayor edu rosicky hleb all better players but didn't have his longevity or commitment

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

seriously calling into question sam's '20 best ILFer' status

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

'longevity'

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

no questions about ljungberg's longevity after those photos amirite.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

ice cold zing from klata, a+

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

8 people have spoken
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?53031-Swedens-greatest-ever-player

Ibrahimivic 3 37.50%
Lundberg 0 0%
Larsson 5 62.50%

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

This thread looks fun!

(though I am not sure who 'Sam' is if not 'Big Sam')

I still think Ibrahimovic's goal feels like the best I've seen this tournament. It's good when losing sides do good things.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

amazing to try parsing the reptile logic of phil brown

there are better players in other countries >> england has the best league >> why don't they come to england >> they hate england

I think you're doing him a disservice there. It's more likely his thought process is:

there are better players in other countries >> england has the best league >> why don't they come to england >> they must hate gays

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

ok i guess i was proven wrong. rvp, a guy who was injured for most of the 00s, was a better player than ljungberg, regular match winner, big game player (only player to score in back-to-back FA Cup finals? scored nearly every game the second half of the 01/02 season to basically win us the title by himself) and consistently amazing winger for about 5 seasons. also a guy who was a great goal scorer in scotland and good sub for barca and utd. because scottish football is comparable to idk the premiership or la liga or serie a.

no, i think i'll just have to disagree with you all. larsson was a very good player but freddie was better.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

Glad that Suggest Ban is dead.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

The fact that he spent his best years in the SPL definitely diminishes Larsson's career. I don't how anyone could think otherwise

Number None, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

freddie barely existed for five season you clown you

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

did he ever get offers to go elsewhere? why wasn't he playing at juve or utd or wherever? is there many other examples of great players absolutely slumming it for most of their career, like the best ever player in Polish football or summin?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

freddie barely existed for five season you clown you

― I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:27 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are just trolling, right?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

because he excelled in europe and in big games there too, it's not like larsson never tested himself. Ljungberg played as a winger/inside forward for the best footballing unit england had produced in years, he was a good goalscorer with a knack for canny runs but he had it kinda soft too

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

no sam, i don't think larsson ever got an offer for anywhere else, and yes, yes i'm the troll here

List me ljungbergs five best years pls, stats etc.

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

if this is some CLUB LEDGEND sentimental stuff above actual playing achievements fair enough but if u can't see how rvp has been a better player than ljungberg idk

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

The idea that having good teammates at Arsenal is at all comparable to playing in the SPL w/r/t having it "soft" is stupid.

boxall, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

#0 , nobody's claiming that henk's performance at spl level = equivalent of henry's years at arsenal or w/e

We're saying his years of utter dominance at celtic might just >= two great seasons and assorted other injury-wrecked periods of flotsam from ljungberg at arsenal

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

ya boxall it was a confused point tbf, this bus is jolting me savagely.

Leave it as 'sustained brilliance at an admittedly lower level with plenty of great showings at high level in europe and internationally gives henk a case against epl footnote ljungberg'

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

1999–00 40 8
2000–01 43 8
2001–02 39 17
2002–03 32 9
2003–04 43 10
2004–05 38 14

Appearances - Goals

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

His form fell the next season and by 2007-08 he was gone to West Ham

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

if this is some CLUB LEDGEND sentimental stuff above actual playing achievements fair enough but if u can't see how rvp has been a better player than ljungberg idk

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:32 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

RVP's best two years have been in the past 2 years. I specifically mentioned the 00s, in which he was v. inconsistent even when fit. On his day RVP is a better player, yes. But it took him till long after Freddie left to play regularly to the ridiculously high standard he is held to today.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

hmmm not bad, tho he'd have struggled to make utd's team with those stats, presumably that's three or four of the 19 ahead of him tbf

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for making the tournament thread intermittently NSFW though xp.

boxall, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

I like Ljungberg a lot for those first years - good winger. It's kind of hard for me to compare him to Ibrahimovic or Larsson since the latter play well up front and center and I've never seen them play the wings. Playing a CF wasn't Ljungberg's forte but it wasn't Pires' either and I still rate him highly.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

I specifically mentioned the 00s, in which he was v. inconsistent even when fit.

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:41 PM (1 minute ago)

nae fuckin way

he had 38 in 81 games during the last four seasons of that decade, during which he was usually playing as a supporting striker in a 4-4-2 rather than outright #9

near 1 in 2 is an excellent scoring rate for that position, gtfo

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

(epl only obv)

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

in any case as said before parsing careers into calendar decades is retarded and useful only for say giving undue prominence to players like ljungberg who have birthdates ending in 7-9

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

this thread today is a lot like american sports media in the offseason which afaict seems to be full of arduous hard-hitting debate about which wide receiver born in an even zipcode is most likely to have a breakout season or whatever

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

We could talk about whether Spain are boring.

boxall, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

ha i was going to

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

did he ever get offers to go elsewhere? why wasn't he playing at juve or utd or wherever? is there many other examples of great players absolutely slumming it for most of their career, like the best ever player in Polish football or summin?

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy),

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_Carlovich

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

we could cite Pele while we're at it

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

I like this meta conversation about what we could do marginally better than actually doing it.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

absolutely pele would be counted. played in brasil and the nasl, nowhere near the highest level of club football. i was just going for the most extreme examples i could remember. carlovich is a bit of a difficult one since no film of him exists, but menotti, maradona, jose pekerman all consider him amongst the most technically gifted of argentinian footballers so i'll trust them. hatzipanagis's story, think it was in an issue of the blizzard, is, from a purely sporting angle, one of the saddest in football.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

one of the saddest in football.

Kinda weird story, actually.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

I don't necessarily buy Brazilian football being low standard btw. Players didn't go abroad much then, so the English league had the best English players, the Italian league the best Italian, etc. Brazil were the best country in the world throughout Pele's career, so...

Argentina's a bit different, it was a backwater between the war and the seventies aiui

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

pele crush everybody @ world cups but doesnt really matter because he was "nowhere near the highest level of club football" ?

moullet, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

he was rubbish that time in England. Didn't like it up him iirc

Number None, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

We should start more player 1 v player 2 threads

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

yes xps, that's a real thing that has been said about Pele

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

Ibrahimovic-Rooney was a good one. I'd quite like an Ozil vs but not sure who'd be the right foil. Want to say Deco.

boxall, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

also a guy who was a great goal scorer in scotland and good sub for barca and utd. because scottish football is comparable to idk the premiership or la liga or serie a.

No-one said that. His record outside Scotland in European comps and for his country isn't exactly shabby.

In Larsson's peak Celtic years he also scored 1 in 2 for Sweden (and better than 1 in 3 overall). He scored in three World Cups and two Euros. He scored 59 goals in European competition. He scored two in a UEFA Cup Final (against the following season's CL winners). He won the Champions League and played a major part in the outcome of the final. He won the European Golden Boot despite being hampered by goal weighting due to the league he was in. All of this after a fucking horrific leg break.

Of course from an outsider's pov it takes away from his career that he spent most of it in a lower class league but anyone who goes LOLSPL and doesn't acknowledge how brilliant a footballer he was really wasn't paying attention. He remained loyal to a club that he basically owed his career to - people can diminish his career for that if they like but I'd rather thank the fucking guy.

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't he come down to United for a season and salvage it?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

He played 10 games or so in half a season and got a Premier League medal. His "good sub" stint at Barca got him two La Liga titles and a Super Cup and a Champions League medal.

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

why does he owe his career to them? Suspiciously, there's no Feyenoord section on his wiki page

Number None, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

i was going to do a thread about ozil earlier today after reading this ozil tumblr i posted the goetze/ozil gif from and then thought of maybe doing a thread for winsome football gif tumblrs curated by earnest young women and in the end didn't start either thread

i am thinking about him a lot because he has such great eyes he could maybe threaten the xavi - iniesta tier (which i suppose is the third tier of great players atm) and previously i thought he would plateau some way beneath that

used to think he was too reliant on speed but he is only 23, and his general game is improving

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

iniesta xavi surely tier 2

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

Messi is tier 1 presumably

Number None, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

messi, ronaldo, huddlestone

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

be interesting to see how Portugal's performance in this tournament affects Ronaldo's Ballon D'Or prospects though. Does a Euro trophy + a league outweigh Messi's goalscoring record

Number None, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

separate tiers for messi and pouty ron

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

why does he owe his career to them? Suspiciously, there's no Feyenoord section on his wiki page

― Number None, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:09 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(from memory) according to him he'd almost decided to quit football after being pushed out to the right wing at Feyenoord then being criticised for not scoring enough despite not playing up front then being frozen out of the team [multiple citations needed :) ]. Wim Jansen knew he had a release clause in his contract (because he gave him the contract, possibly? can't remember how their careers overlapped) and took him to Celtic for very cheap after a contract dispute that Feyenoord lost.

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

I don't necessarily buy Brazilian football being low standard btw. Players didn't go abroad much then, so the English league had the best English players, the Italian league the best Italian, etc. Brazil were the best country in the world throughout Pele's career, so...

Argentina's a bit different, it was a backwater between the war and the seventies aiui

― Ismael Klata

when pele started playing football there wasn't a national championship in brazil.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

also libertadores early years (1960-80) were dominated by teams from argentina.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

jim'll fix yr lazy assumptions about futbol sudamericano

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

Thread has been enjoyably diverse and off-topic today.

I do think Ozil has a true playmaker's vision, and has also been surprisingly efficient in possession at this tournament. As ZM has observed, for someone who can place difficult long passes so well, it's perplexing that he is not a good finisher, yet.

boxall, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

French midfielder Samir Nasri turned 25 on Tuesday but according to the sports daily L'Equipe, he had better make the most of any celebrations, as he faces potentially a long ban from the national side.
His behaviour at Euro 2012, which included two outbursts at journalists and being deemed by several team-mates as a disruptive influence, is the reason why the squad's 100,000 euros ($125,000, 80,000 pounds) a player bonuses are now under the scanner.
Nasri has also put at risk sponsorship money paid to the French Football Federation (FFF) based on independent polling about the behaviour and popularity of "Les Bleus" during major competitions.
The FFF had already seen each sponsor reduce its contribution by two million euros after the 2010 World Cup, which saw players go on strike and then exit at the first stage, and a threat of a 20 percent reduction if the team's popularity dipped more.
The results of the latest poll are unlikely to make happy reading for either the French football authorities or the players.
L'Equipe estimates that with FFF president Noel Le Graet up for re-election in December, he will want to make an example of Nasri and the Manchester City star could face a ban of up to two years, ruling him out of the next World Cup finals.

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 08:37 (eleven years ago) link

Ozil has 49 assists in two seasons at Real. Xavi has 19 in the last two years for Barca. Clearly that only shows a very, very partial element of their overall contributions, and Xavi is probably still the superior player, but Ozil is super-effective at club level.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty sure one of the team-mates who cites Nasri as a 'disruptive influence' is Malouda. They'd be better served making sure he never finds his way into the National squad again.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 08:58 (eleven years ago) link

Ozil has 49 assists in two seasons at Real. Xavi has 19 in the last two years for Barca. Clearly that only shows a very, very partial element of their overall contributions, and Xavi is probably still the superior player, but Ozil is super-effective at club level.

I always feel assists are a bit of a difficult thing to measure. Like how often has Xavi picked the through ball that opened a team up for e.g. Iniesta to square a ball for Messi to tap in? Messi gets the goal and Iniesta gets the assist but Xavi created the chance iykwim. Barcelona's rotation of possession in front of a defence probing for gaps means that assists will be spread more evenly across the team.

onimo, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

Ozil has been killing it for my FFL team as well, he's been very effective for Germany this tournament. He's not at Xavi level but hey he might well get there.

Nasri is a nasty punchable little shit and I revel in his misfortune.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 09:10 (eleven years ago) link

I always feel assists are a bit of a difficult thing to measure

totally. they are completely unmeasurable in fact. it's impossible to say who was responsible for a goal other than the scorer. "assists" seem to me like a stats-obsessed American's take on football.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link

also because it helps that every man and his dawg has a ff team now, although maybe that is an imported american thing too

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

I have a weird thing with Samir Nasri where I'm always surprised to see him turn up in any team he plays for. I spent large parts of last season watching Man City and going "huh? Nasri? He's there?" despite knowing full well he plays for them. I do the same when I see him for France. I think my brain just refuses to accept his existence.

re. Larsson, there's some of his autobiography quoted here, which covers his departure from Feyenoord: http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s302/st37269.htm

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

nasri being a dick who often doesn't perform when you want him to? p old news surely

/embittered arsenal fan

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

in ten years you'll have him in a top 20 list

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

Three lines into your link, ailsa, and there's a horrible "always given 110%" :(

I shall persevere against my better judgement.

onimo, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:20 (eleven years ago) link

Four lines in and the author has confused reign and rein :(

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

After that it's c&p all book extracts - Henrik has a better editor. I just sneaked a peak at his 3rd place play off goal in the '94 World Cup - proper Henrik goal - springs the offside, touches round the keeper, dummies to put the defender on his arse, rolls the ball into the empty net and reels away celebrating.

onimo, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

in ten years you'll have him in a top 20 list

― Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 11:14 (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

top 20 players city wasted their money on?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

that's a tough field already

onimo, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

top 20 players focussed on winning titles

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

all strong zing

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

top 20 players city wasted their money on?

nasri aside this is a good q

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B4 imo

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

it's between him and Santa Cruz

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

He should have had J%C3%B4 on the back of his shirt.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

don't forget benjani

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

negredo eh, who saw that coming?

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

Predicting a pretty boring game - Spain will dominate possession and Portugal will defend to fuck and then win 1-0 through something amazing from Ronaldo.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

That sounds like the opposite of boring tbh

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

I think 2-1 to someone, probably Spain. I'm a bit torn tbh, admired Spain for years but the possession without penetration they're often exhibiting in this tournament is boring me. Portugal much more willing in attack on recent evidence and Cron seems to be on a mission to prove he's better than some wee guy on his holidays. Still think Spain vs Germany would be the best final so idk :/

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Think Portugal will try to come and play a little bit rather than just sit back. They were v passive vs Germany and they lost that game. Destroyed Spain in a friendly.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I want a Spain-Germany Final. I'm still on a liking Spain bandwagon.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExL-u9zJLsk

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

This Gaby vt is woeful

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

I love his tantrums. It wasn't even offside!

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

did anyone just watch that terrible shit?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

gaby trying to make it seem like roy took over a village team and organised them in 4 weeks.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Liam Brady predicting Arbeloa and Ramos are going to "do" Ronaldo

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

I fear that Almeida will not be as useful as Postiga but I hope I'm wrong

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

The music and everything was so odd, xpost.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

I love the received wisdom that you can "do" or mark* the best footballers in the world out of games. Like no-one's tried that while they were becoming the best in the world.

*I do know this can be done, I just think it's passed off as too simple by pundits

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

Ramos doesn't even play on the same side of defence as Arbeloa, Pique does.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Arbeloa's a fine defender but I bet Del Bosque wishes he had a Jordi Alba attacking style right-back, to get in behind Ronaldo who likely will not track back much.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Most teams managed it with Messi at the last World Cup, but that was by putting two defenders on him most of the time and leaving space open elsewhere.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

i wish he would play ramos at rb and martinez or someone as cb
xp

mizzell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal haven't been all that good in the tourney so far. Thought they looked at their best going frwd vs Denmark and only just squeaked that one. Czech Rep were similar to France vs Spain in that they had zero ambition to cause the other side defensive problems. They did quite well vs Holland but that dutch MF was disastrous.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

I think Portugal are pretty good and could win tonight. Good defence and they gave Germany a tough time when they abandoned their negativity.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

Okay what was with the speeches.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

I would be all down with Aretha in midfield.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo as much of a diva etc etc

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

can't be any worse than Diana Ross

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal caused a bit of panic vs Germany with their corners.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Otis Redding did have a try-out for Sporting Lisbon.

I am excited for this match but Real haven't done well in most recent clasicos and Barca look a lot better on paper tonight.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

iniesta you magnificent bastard.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

oof arbeloa, should have kept that down.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Excellent from Ronaldo, I'm right up for a bit of that tonight

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Bullshit FK

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

otm

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

ref having a nightmare both ways imo

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

This is much better than I expected it to be.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

rather see cesc as a false 9 than negredo doing nothing.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal look good

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Terrible crossing, but everything else A+

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

pique with 3 miscues in a row.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Best passage of the tournament, this. Could do with some proper crowd noise overdubs.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Nani is having an incredible game but he apparently slept with the ref's wife or something because he's had two opportunities scuppered now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Pique ... hasn't looked right for nine months now.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

this has been the best performance v. spain or barca i've seen in years. xavi and iniesta have been nullified with such ease. sure inter and chelsea made it past them and real won the last clasico and portugal may still lose but this has been so well planned and executed so far.

wtf did nani do to this ref to be treated like this?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

He's been fine in the tourney up to tonight imo
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

nani never fouled there FFS

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

gonna be heartbreaking when portugal lose this

jabba hands, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Pique ... hasn't looked right for nine months now.

― boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:20 (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Word is he was getting back to form at the end of the season, no? And he's been fine up until tonight. Maybe Shakira is in attendance. Either way off-form Pique is still better than most centre-halves.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

not for me! I'm firmly with Spain
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Ramos is getting dicked on tonight. He could easily get sent off.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I thought he was awful in the CL semifinals, though I didn't particularly notice him against Italy or France in this tournament.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

perriera is an "angry man" apparently. In general not just on occasion.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Klinnsman's English is so American, now.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Is Almeida a ringer for ilx's Lord Soto or am I imagining it?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ref shite. Game good.

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Why are the beeb studio guys constantly all talking at once tonight? so weird.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

ignorance/ego

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo whets their fancy?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Negredo was a terrible choice.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Fabulous touches in that break. This deserves a better audience.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

No reds please ref

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

This is getting kinda weird.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

this ref is ruining what is a fine match.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

He reads and stuff and has a nice beard and plays a v. ilx friendly way and all but the one thing I really do love about Xabi Alonso is his one attempt per game to lob a keeper from the half way line.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal getting squeezed in the middle now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

cheap free kick

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

xabi alonso is v handsome
game recognize game

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

also all the flopping in this game makes me feel at home watching Manu ginobili, only there's like 7 of him

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Cool insight bro

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal need to put a lid on this petulant, niggly shit, it's so often their undoing

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

i know we have done it before but 'flopping' is such an ugly (and non-football) word

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Argh, that was it

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

bad pass, shit finish

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

What's up with Ronaldo's shooting this game?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

cronny?
ronny!
oh, ronald...

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

'flopping' is perfect though, it should be used

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

That would have been incredible.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Coentrao is player of the tournament imo.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

no one can give a good end pass

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

not like this

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

no it shouldnt

xps

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

this ref really wishes this is portugal-holland06

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

I love cracking 0-0s

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

what a thriller

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

wtf, the pundits really think that was shit?!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

fuck off lineker, christ

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

"it's...a bit like chess" - Martin Keown

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Coentrao is player of the tournament imo.

He's been really solid

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

oh fuck off lineker. i hate hate HATE this BBC 'there were no goals so it was shit' mentality. that was an intense game of tactics. spain didn't have an off day (bar negredo), they were played out of the game.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

"portugal come out and they play and they wanted to play and i'll tell you something tactically they played better not as good as spain did but well, they did well"

indian rope trick (remy bean), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

How was that shit?! Spain's tiki-taka has been neutralized for once by a country with the temerity to actually not only mess with their possession game but run at them. If football isn't chess then it's just a bunch of guys kicking a ball stupidly.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

No way are Portugal finishing with eleven men imo, that'll be what settles it

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

spain didn't have an off day (bar negredo), they were played out of the game.

I'm not watching BBC but Spain are having an off day to an extent, even though Portugal have been very good

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

MW – Spain still kept possession like 60% of the time, didn't they?

indian rope trick (remy bean), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

It's precisely Lineker's attitutde that makes the English nat'l side tend to play below top standards

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Sure, remy but to what effect?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Holding Spain to 60% is an achievement xxp.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

If I thought any side was more likely to score in this game it would have been Portugal. It ain't over and Spain may nick one in the end but this isn't the dumbest tactical approach to take to Spain.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

This hasn't actually been that entertaining though has it?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

Second half at least.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, 60% is actually pretty damn low if I think about the rest of the cup. Typed before I thought it out.

indian rope trick (remy bean), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

It's precisely Lineker's attitutde that makes the English nat'l side tend to play below top standards

― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh this is wipespread on tv and in papers, bar the guardian with their michael cox's and jonathon wilson's.

matt this has been one of the most entertaining games of the tournament imo.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

It got bitty but was always compelling.

I thought Lineker was being sarcastic at first, 'til the full horror dawned.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

second half less so because the ref upped the crazy

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

If Portugal's attacking players had been better over the last 45 this could have been so much better. "Intense tactics" don't mean much when your attackers fluff their chances.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

Iniesta did well there but that's so not a free kick

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

lol <3 pepe

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

I know it was observed when APOEL was making its Champions League run that "Ivan Trickovski" is the ideal name for a clever, pacy Eastern European winger. I think "Custodio" is the equivalent for a no-nonsense Latin/Luso defensive midfielder.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

nominative determinism

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

what a save

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

aw poor alba, that deserved a goal

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

wow

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

spain really hate corners don't they

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

not sure it'll go to gerards

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal are done in, they've given it a right good go though

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

Spain have been a lot better in ET. Still cant call a winner though. ive enjoyed this game.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

How long 'til Custodio gets booked?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

Spain have been better because Portugal have run themselves into the ground. Kinda hoping for penalties now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah spain should win this now. as long as they don't get any corners. then portugal are in with a chance.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

oh this is wipespread on tv and in papers

I didn't mean him particularly, but the popular English attitude to soccer and tactics and 'how it should be played' and why they're tactically so predictable and technically, merely adequate. It's as if English nationalism would rather lose than ever learn anything from those damned foreigners, either that or they're just to thick to learn anything or none of the smart ones play football.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

wipespread heh heh.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

a little of all that tbh

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

BACKPASS

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

well, yes mw.

lol backpass. hansen would be proud.

portugal to win it on pens, i'm calling it.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Not really true Michael, I doubt even the dumbest English commentators would say no to a great Brazil/France/Holland team of the past right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

ok i have no idea how that became wipespread. d and p are nowhere close on a keyboard.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

thought that was it

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

brilliant pass by Fabregas

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

did any of these guys get yellows in the qf? the ref just handed out his 9th or 10th, someone has to be missing the final

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

amnesty after the QFs

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

Amnesty after the quarters I thought

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

ref otm with the yellows, his job's not to avoid booking players

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

pedro fouled in the box there imo

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

throw the fuckin head at it son ffs

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal deserve that I think

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

his job's not to avoid booking players

I didn't find him unreasonable

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

amnesty after the QFs

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:08 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fuck is the point of this? it just means that players could dick around here with no risk.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

Better than players missing out on the final imo

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

Ismael, I agree. If they'd merely played a defensive game, I might be somewhat less sanguine about it, but they took some chances. It was, all in all, a better game than the Spain vs France game, for example.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, 60% is actually pretty damn low if I think about the rest of the cup. Typed before I thought it out.

― indian rope trick (remy bean), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:44 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It should get lower towards the final as the opposition/occasion becomes more difficult to cope with - it's still v high by anyone else's standards.

Pepe's "MY FUCKING BALL" throughout that game was excellent.

Spain to take it on pens, CRon to CRy.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

They risk giving up free-kicks and being booked twice and sent off. xps

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

Meh, cunts shouldn't be encouraged to be cunty just because they want to sell more shirts. the players who deserve to be in the final shouldn't be the ones who have had a bunch of yellow cards ruled out.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

it just means that players could dick around here with no risk.

It also means the 'lesser' sides don't go into the semis with third string players. Uefa know what they're doing in this regard.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

xps Problem is they've devalued bookings so much, a suspension for two yellows has become far too harsh. They need to make it a rolling amnesty - a yellow drops off three games later, something like that

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

Doesn't this happen in the WC, too, where there's a card amnesty after some stage?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

lol shearer feels less nerves watching a neutral match than an england one. crazy! whowudathunkit?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

eh make up yr mind sam you want the ref to avoid punishing players for football reasons or yr shocked that players may not be punished correctly

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

Fabulous save.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

incredible save

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

good peno, great save

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

save!

fuck yes!

surprised how much i am supporting portugal.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

"it's a poor penalty to be honest"

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

rui patricio killin em

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

This is going to go on for like 15 penalties.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

that second one wasn't good

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

darragh, half the yellows tonight have been for ridiculous things barely worth a free kick. the ref can be wrong AND the rule can be wrong.

another great save! oh iniesta spoiling the party.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

This'll have to go to a best-of-3 Rock Paper Scissors between the team captains.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

I bet one of these players tries a panenka, they're too vain not to think they can replicate Pirlo's effort.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

good ol' peps.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

I think they should have coin toss to choose between pentaly kicks and keepy-uppies or something; they're something so unsatisying about penalties.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

fine pair of penalties

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

centre halves be taking great penalties

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

lol what was that about

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

Michael they are unsatisfying to win by but they can break yr heart if your team lose and really that is what sport is about.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

lol Ramos

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

told you

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

i hope that secretly was a dick move and bruno alves is their best penalty taker.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

we just disagree on the fouls that were yellows then sam, thought they were all yellows

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

unlucky son

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Poor Alves.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

big run up, it's going over.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

oh fuck! he looked so unconfident, david batty esque.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

it has to be that twat (plz come back)

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

jammy fucker

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

lol cronaldo picking 5th

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

damn, espana

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Well done nani

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

nani a dick, cron gonna cry, alves shouldn't have stepped up.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

I think Ronaldo's about to go back into the dressing room and kill everyone in there one by one.

Really wanted Nani to try something audacious and fall flat on his face and was disappointed when he didn't.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Wasn't Nani's fault if Alves was going out of turn.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

ronaldo you shit out.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Nani should have just let him go. Such a dick move.

Poor Coentrao, 'ave a cry son.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

clever move not letting ronaldo take one.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Nani's pen was great. So was Fabergas'.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Nani hasn't got the brain power to make such a decision.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

So I guess Ronaldo isn't a good player or something.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

the dink is so passé now. the scuff is where its at.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

there's about a quarter-inch difference between Alves' and Fabregas' penalties, probably fair reflection of the game tbh

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

Nani running up may have been a weird psyche-out move

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

alves' face broke my heart, poor guy

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

lineker struggling, haul im off

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

lineker clearly about to collapse, what time is it there, 2:30am or something?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

I was reading an interview with Panenka himself earlier where he was taking great joy that every commentator, in every country, calls that 'a panenka'. Hope he wasn't watching bbc tonight.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

I figure Nani was chased forward by his coach for that - as soon as it happened the Alves miss was inevitable, not that he looked confident in the first walk-up.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

commentators more boring tonight than Spain

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

What'd they call it on BBC? xps

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

is it against the rules that having announced your penalty takers to the ref they go in the wrong order?

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

'the dink' iirc xp. Foreign terms never catch on here, everything else is called 'little flick'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

yes but otoh the day lawro tries to use 'trequartista' on commentary is the day i give up paying a license fee

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

feels weird saying it but that was a great shootout

game was fuckloads better than Lineker and Hansen made out, I really dislike the entry-level notion that if Spain are on anything less than sparkling form it renders the whole spectacle a dud

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

to these inexperienced eyes portugal were fucking tremendous, right up on spain like white on rice

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

so when did everyone decide to abandon the fantasy league and leave me looking daft at the top? dick moves.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

otm Portugal were fabulous. In a way it's slightly depressing, because nobody can keep that up for a full 90 mins and beyond. Germany'll rip Spain in the final though (if they get there).

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

spain's lack of striker truly is a bizarre way to play; i know torres has his issues but lacking villa don't you need SOMEBODY who doesn't mind trying a little forward fuckery?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

they played a striker in the first half

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

i mean fielding a team that includes fabregas but nobody for him to
flip it to should be prosecutable behavior

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

i find the lack of striker thing really overegged. it's not like it means they're playing with 10 men or something. and it's not as if they don't have tons of goalscoring potential in the team.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

also... is it me or were bbc way harsh on ronaldo? surely it's not that uncommon for a team to have the best player on the last penalty? am i completely wrong?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Dunphy went HAM on him naturally

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

can imagine. also when has a player got to pick the kick he takes? blame it on the bento imo.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

ok ok maybe i am drinking the kool-ade. but i do think they miss villa.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

thread otm. that was a good and proper game.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

Giles mumbled something about the manager being responsible but was shouted down

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

really feel portugal blew that.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

surely you want your best penalty takers on the first pens as it gets statistically less likely the penalty will actually be taken the deeper you go, as happened there.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

spain don't need a striker, fine, but then they need not to play it wide and cross it to the guy that's not there.

Llorente has more to complain about than torres imo

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

important penos are first and fourth iirc

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

son, it's better to regret something you have done than something you haven't done. xp.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

is ronaldo even such a great penalty taker?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

surely you want your best penalty takers on the first pens as it gets statistically less likely the penalty will actually be taken the deeper you go, as happened there.

yeah tho in my mind teams often leave a particularly good taker as the last one. isn't this fairly common?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

He's near enough infallible with kicks in normal time. Shoot-outs he's a little dodgier

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

23 out of 24 for real is pretty impressive actually. i just can't tell with bbc cos they made it out as though every free kick he takes was going to be a goal

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

xxp. maybe, he's going to regret that for the rest of his life tho, is the bottom line.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

son, it's better to regret something you have done than something you haven't done. xp.

― second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:08 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and by the way, tell your mother....ZLATAN

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

nice ;)

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

is it just me or was that ramos pen shite? didn't execute it properly, not delicate enough.

Chris, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

A penalty that hits the net is never shite.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

It was fine.
xp re Ramos (especially considering his one vs Bayern.

Spain are so awesome defensively. Good match, Portugal played Spain straight up and concentrated on playing their game the best they possibly could rather than solely concentrating on nullifying Spain.
Meireles pass to Ronaldo on 90m was so so terrible.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

na don't get me wrong it was a good'un obv. but as panenka pens go, it was underwhelming! you're supposed to momentarily stop breathing as you realise 'wait, wtf, he hasn't... fuck me he has.' time's supposed to stand still. went in though so who gives a fuck.

Chris, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

i find it hard to say that portugal were that great. like italy they took the game to spain, rather than parking the bus, as everyone else has done against them this tournament. like italy they at least matched spain for most of the game (in this they overachieved, they're nothing as good of a team as spain on paper), but faded at the end (last quarter of an hour of the ninety minutes for italy, the entire period of extra time for portugal). spain often start slow, but del bosque got it wrong tactically and this compounded it. negredo didn't look like he had any idea of what his role was, and was largely ineffective when the ball did manage to arrive at him. silva and xavi both underperformed massively in the first half imo. i didnt think fabregas was that great but an improvement on negredo? absolutely. navas looked livelier than silva but going for the byline and whipping in crosses - for who? - which invariably hit the first man and at best went out for a corner, as if spain know what to do with one of those, just isn't a good enough plan b. thought arbeloa had a bit of a torrid time and should've been sent off. thought pedrito was great and if only he'd had more playing time - this season, this tournament - he might just have gotten something.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like the spain backlash is so fucking strong that we give portugal so much credit for containing them and stopping their play, and yet ignore the fact that despite portugal never gave spain control, neither did they look like scoring, or have a shot on target.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

but faded at the end (last quarter of an hour of the ninety minutes for italy, the entire period of extra time for portugal)

Yes, teams are noticeably falling off against them - it's really heavy going to not have the ball, especially when you choose to press as Portugal often did.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

xp.ha some terrible english in there, you'll decode it.

yeah, but i think you have to press spain to beat them. it's the best tactic. you just need to be better than portugal going forward - which germany are.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

thank fuck somebody who used to play in England scored to enliven this otherwise by-the-numbers encounter

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

The shots on target thing is so misleading; Ronaldo is about as good a goalscorer there has ever been and still cocked up a couple of decent to good chances. Especially the break at the end, that is usually his bread and butter.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

A penalty that hits the net is never shite

Only because penalties defy analysis. The only useful analysis you could do would be to assess their saveability by height, disguise, distance from the corner, etc. Of course we never hear that, it's always "great penalty" for the ones that go in and "it's a poor penalty to be honest" for the ones that don't - even when they're identical in every respect except which way the keeper dives.

The thing is that ultimately that's all that matters, so all pundits more otm than me, basically.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 06:40 (eleven years ago) link

that chance near the end was difficult, tho it needn't have been if the decision and execution from meirelles wasn't shite

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link

The only useful analysis you could do would be to assess their saveability by height, disguise, distance from the corner, etc.

I saw something a few years back when they did this and worked out that the best way to take a penalty in terms of risk vs likelihood of scoring was to hit it low and hard into the corner. Up there with all that research about how cornflakes get soggy when they're wet.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

I once read the best way to save penalties is to stay standing up in the middle, as between going left, right and through the middle people are most likely to go through the middle and you can cover more space standing up etc.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

But also keepers feel like heroics come from big diving saves or whatever, so they always do that

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:20 (eleven years ago) link

The amount of panenkas that people are going to be trying now, I'd totally stand still and catch them if I were a keeper. (I'm not, clearly.)

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

I bet those chipped penalties look fucking lame if the keeper doesn't move. Berbatov looked like the coolest penalty taker in the universe until he had one saved when it just looked shite.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

Ha!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

the Graun's weekly youtube roundup thing today has a clip of five shitty panenkas, most of which have precisely that happening

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

A keeper would make a panenka extremely unlikely by standing still for the first penalty of a shoot out. Just standing still for each one seems like an unwise policy.

Tim, Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

28% of the goal is unreachable for any well-struck penalty, iirc the research. High into the corner to the side of the kicker's favoured foot is preferential, but an arc around the goalie's reach is a close enough depiction.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

from the initial angle last night nani's looked unsaveable- if the keeper stands and reacts there's a good chance that's within arm's reach.

But the keepers were good in the penos last night tbf, just a technically good shootout.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

if you just stand still, this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuEGHHoZGM

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

actually i guess he did save it!

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

game was fuckloads better than Lineker and Hansen made out

Yes, fuck off to the golf course and let people who actually interested in football comment on it. Didn't Hansen once say he wouldn't watch football if he wasn't being paid for it? Why have the BBC also got tonight's semi-final? At least Klinsmann will be on the panel, but does this mean they won't be covering the final?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

Strange way to divvy it up - ITV got four of the six ENG/IRE group games, but BBC got first dibs on the QFs and both SFs. Final live on both channels.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

Oh right, I forgot that ITV would be more interested in Engerland than the semis.

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

Don't know what the viewing figures for non-Roy's Boys semis will be like

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

8.8m watched SPA-POR last night.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

So financially ITV made the right choice

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

Well, 20.3m watched ENG-ITA; BBC also got a bigger audience for their one ENG group game than the two broadcast on ITV, AFAIK.

8.8m is quite a jump from the sub-7m who watched the GER-GRE semi four years ago (but there was generally a lower level of interest in the that tournament from the get-go).

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

premature but my team of the tournament so far

--------------------Casillas--------------------

--Lahm---------Pepe--------Hummels-------Coentrao

---------------Pirlo-------Kheidira--------------

---Ronaldo-----------Ozil--------------Iniesta---

-------------------Ibrihimovic-------------------

Has Ronaldo playing out of position and Lahm too(kinda). Mountinho can feel hard done by and Gomez can play his way in tonight I guess. Perhaps Jordi Alba unlucky as well. Pretty obvious team really.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

cronaldo rw?

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I know. Just trying to shoehorn him and Iniesta into the same team. It's like Gerrard and Lampard all over again! ;)

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

iniesta am, ozil rw, ronaldo lw

iniesta is just awesome, player of the tournament contender playing in maybe his third best position

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

i think ozil has looked alright playing wide / inside right for madrid a few times

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yes that's better
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

                          rui patricio

boateng corluka papadopoulos
alba

tymoschuk

zyryanov modric

srna
konoplyanka

gomez

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

bit indie

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

that's not supposed to be the best players, there's no ron vlaar for a start, but they are at least good players & with an emphasis on eastern europeans players who performed well in flawed sides or without much experience or out of normal position / playing style

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

you wouldn't change them for any of the England team

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Is that you 'Arry?

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

Btw Ismael, did your dad enjoy the QF?

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

redknapp has just sold corluka to lokomotiv for £5.5m ftr

just didnt fancy im

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

ha no it only went through yesterday so that would have been levy i guess

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

Corluka didn't perform that well except in the Spain game which was perfectly suited to him (ie it was about having exceptional positional sense and not having to worry too much about being skinned for pace).

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

Would love to retain Corluka but guess he wants to leave by now?

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

xps I only spoke to him briefly from some airport or other, but he said it was definitely the best game he saw (he was also at Poland-Russia and Portugal-Czech Rep). He did say he had a cracking view of the penalties, from a point opposite the dugouts and towards the end where they were taken. Hopefully there'll be a photo or two of england agony that I can post for general amusement.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

thought provoking idea -- all managers are fired/suspended in may, chief exec buys/sells whoever he likes, (re)appoints manager in july

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, he was at Greece-Russia; it was *in* Poland.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

it's plausible that arry's still going around wheelin and/or dealin, raking in money selling spurs players.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

Corluka didn't perform that well except in the Spain game = yeah playing out of position alongside a bundesliga II player and conceding 1 dodgy goal vs spain is pretty damn good, also conceded only 1 vs italy

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

raking you say xpost

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

corluka didn't even perform well against ireland

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

SING-SONG UPDATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dydAICgkWX0&

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

playing vs ireland = weighted about 1/20th of playing vs spain or italy

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

Coentrao has been excellent. Where does he play?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

Real Madrid as Marcelo's back-up.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

A 30m backup

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

he's a better defender than marcelo and that's being reflected in their playing time

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

they are both shit vs barcelona though

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

I''m sad that Tomas Mueller hasn't made more of an impression this time; he was my favoruite player at the WC2010, reminded me of Rudd Gullit with all his running and passing, passing and running, and goalscoring. I preferred him to Ozil back then but he's been a bit of a bit-player.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

Cronny seems to have tucked the legs of his shorts up under the gusset. He's a classy lad.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

playing vs ireland = weighted about 1/20th of playing vs spain or italy

yeah makes sense, playing badly against the worst team in the tournament, giving them a repeated platform to score their only goal of the tournament the only way they were ever likely to, and then failing to stop your man (noted physical presence and goal threat sean st ledger) from outmuscling you, that all doesn't matter.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

There will be a England player in the "team of the tournament", there nearly always is, no matter what

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

EBJT

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

stevie g still joint leader with 3 assists

mizzell, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

I''m sad that Tomas Mueller hasn't made more of an impression this time; he was my favoruite player at the WC2010, reminded me of Rudd Gullit with all his running and passing, passing and running, and goalscoring. I preferred him to Ozil back then but he's been a bit of a bit-player.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:06 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah i sympathize with all that, but he was also in uncanny goalscoring form at the world cup

he has been alright though, and will be interesting to see how he does vs chiellini who is supposed to be playing leftback tonight

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

just goes to show how good mcgeady really is

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link


given

g johnson k papadopoulos sivok Ignashevich

robben milner nasri ronaldo

van persie rooney

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

almeida >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twp

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

ach ken my fuckin eyes

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

a bit harsh for cron to be in that team tbh but then, MESSI :*

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

Is Reus not favored to keep his place after excellent game v Greece?

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Milner didn't play in the middle either so that seems a tad unfair

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Be close but Loew trusts Mueller more I think, especially defensively. LB for Italy got a lot of joy vs England.
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

Thought G Johnson had a decent tourney (although I would stan for him I guess)

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

left a permanent gap for italy to attack iirc

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

but then that could have been the whole defence tbf

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't seen any rumours about the team selection vs italy

i'd probably favour muller for his track record and combination play, reus on this form has higher upside but not the same solidity if things get difficult and he is denied space

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

nah Johnson was one of the better Englishes imo

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

Seemed like he was out of position a lot. Played Sweden onside for their first goal

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link


Given
O'Shea Vlaar Mykhalyk Willems
Andrews Rezek
Robben Gerrard Nasri
Kerzhakhov

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

like if it is chiellini and he can take care of reus (which is possible cuz he is agile for his size) then reus becomes an underused outlet ball whereas muller can drift around and play 1-2s as well as being better defensively

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe have Rooney in a 4-4-2 and drop Rezek (just like he was in that first game amirite?)

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

Andrews was Ireland's best player fwiw

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

I'd play Reus left actually, Podolski has been disappointing and Abate's not fully fit, Maggio more wingback than fullback, etc.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

I still like Schurrle more generally but he wasn't very good last match.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland had a best player? I only saw 11 stallians running around trying not to be shot in the face and taken away to make glue

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

andrews is trash, not that #0 might not be right

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

reus lw makes more sense but poldi seems pretty much a fixture at this point

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

maggio is suspended, if abate is still injured who steps in?

mizzell, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i agree with reus over poldi.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

No idea but I suspect Thiago Motta could do a job there. (xp)

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Reus has been great

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

andrews was prob ireland's best player. Certainly the only one to emerge with a better rep than when he entered. If he makes yr worst xi then they're all wearing green

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

Are these worst XIs based on performance-to-reputation-gap, or just performance?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i've always rated him, at least above the likes of whelan who offers nothing. andrews has character if not any great ability. he had a string of decent attempts against croatia cos he kept at it.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

xpost to dmac

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

he was v good in paris against france that night too.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

whelan offers a lot more ito movement and passing, andrews good in big games, better in the air and in the tackle.

Both combined are maybe good enough

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

ok ok i should have had whelan over andrews.

nick - a bit of both. nasri didn't have a bad game v england or ukraine but he didn't exactly look inspired either and caused the backroom shit that got france knocked out i guess

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

(and considering he is one of the few players supposedly worth 25m on the last year of his contract - you'd think he'd be one of the lynchpins on a team).

biggest gap between reputation and performance is robben

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

rooney

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

But he only played 2 games, and scored in one, so.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

biggest gap between reputation and performance is robben

Yes, or maybe Wazza imo xp

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

Actually I don't think Xavi is having that good a tourney tbh. But still, he's Xavi.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

Xavi's looked a lot less productive because he keeps having to take pointless corners.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

biggest gap btwn rep and performance is always rooney

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Van Persie.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Van Persie at least had spells where he tried and hit the post twice iirc

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

he keeps having to take pointless corners.

Considering possession and number of corners, I was shocked at how ineffectual Spain's corners have been

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

I reckon if you force Spain into taking 60 corners a game you've a good chance of a 0-0, or better if you're half decent on the break. They have two players who can attack a crossed ball and have to take both of them out of defence to try it.

The crowd would boo them even more for it but they'd be better taking them all short and continuing to pass and probe.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

punting the ball into the stand behind your own goal at every opportunity is a tactic i'd like to see enacted.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

According to #Bild : Germany starting line up : Neuer, Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm, Sami, Basti, Ozil, Reus, Podolski, Klose

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

Mueller and Gomez are still possible subs, ja?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

hold up, #Bild was wrong.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

replace Klose with Gomez and Reus with Kroos. Still no Muller, though he's not injured I don't believe.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

the subs bench is the rest of the squad

klose is a player i don't like but i'm not sure why

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Kroos on the right instead of muller/reus? Or are they putting ozil right and having kroos look after pirlo from the #10 position?

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

The talk has been of Ozil at the #10 against Pirlo.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

xp I would think the latter. Ozil to drift in from right to center, Khedira to shuttle right and cover him defensively vs Alba/Iniesta.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

um

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

probably not Alba/Iniesta

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

I've never seen Kroos play on the right before. He either plays #10 or CM.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

"complete pratt"

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

It's Italy v Germany! The biggest game of the lot!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

I always like how sprightly the Italian anthem sounds.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

<3 Buffon.
So looking frwd to this. Rooting for Germany but quite like Italy as well. Just hope it's as good as 2006, 1970 too much to hope for.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

lol Goetse

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

lucky

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

pirloooooo

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

Has Gomez come close to winning a header yet?

Lucky again!

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

germany's running this so far

DX Dx DX (dan m), Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ozil on it tonight.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

If Germany manage to win tonight the Final could have like 18 players of the 22 from just 3 clubs.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Mario!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Superb goal

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

Hummels poor there, great cross and goal tho

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

Beautiful!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

gorgeous balance from Cassano to turn away from the challenge and cross in almost the same motion

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Man that was great. Student bar here is equal parts German/Italy folks so it's already a little nuts.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

oh sh*t

moullet, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

Slightly weird that that's the first goal since Navas walked it in v France

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

Never a free kick!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Germany need more of the tempo they had vs Greece rather than the one they had vs Portugal. This pace suits Italy.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

fucking pirlo eh?

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

lovely little pirlouette

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

oof, excellent defending

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

it's worth saying again:

BAD STUBER

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

nicely done
xp to onimo

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

GOOD STUBER

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Argh why not hit it?! Cassano killing it tonight.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

stubes of fucking steel, that guy

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

MARIO!

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking finish!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

BOOM

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

SUPER FUCKING MARIO

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

LOL

great

Ludo, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Hot damn tamale!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

new favorite player

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Holy shit. He was under pressure from the defender as well.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

He will get a 2nd yellow in the game now.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

He will.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

wooooow. gonna get sent off now though. xp

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

ok i'm listening.

khedira different class out there

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Probably for the celebration after his hattrick

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Damn that was something. And there's his yellow!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

2nd yellow ^so true

and then Spain will go and win comfortably ;_;

Ludo, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

ohhh ballotelli he's a striker he's good at darts

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

in fact prandelli should substitute Mario at half time if he's still around at that time

Ludo, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

So weird that Germany have a bogey team

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Neuer was hailing a bus there

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

If Lineker shits on THIS game at half-time I'm gonna lose it.

Podolski is having a crap tourney. Get Marco Reus on.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Second yellow will be for a relatively innocuous challenge I reckon.

Germany will still win this.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

how come that wasnt offsides?

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Defender was playing him onside.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Because it wasn't. xp

He might sulk if he's taken off before 60' but I'd take that risk over a suspension for the final.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Germany only 10/1 to win in 90 mins :/

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

what does that mean, i mean he was between the defender and the goal and ahead of the ball, srs question, obvs not a huge footy consumer over here

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

There was a defender between Mario and the goal when the ball was played. He was just running in the wrong direction.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

what does that mean, i mean he was between the defender and the goal and ahead of the ball, srs question, obvs not a huge footy consumer over here

― lag∞n

he wasn't when the ball was hit.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

It's at the moment the ball is passed - he was between the two defenders at that instant

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

an ok did not know that thx

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Well, that was shit"

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

vialli dropping knowledge there

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

Luca looks & sounds amazing. What's he do nowadays?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol at Shearer the spare prick here. What's he going to contribute?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

He's a commentator in Italy I think.

How many career goals has that panel scored? Does it break the 1000 mark?

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

Wasn't expecting this scoreline at halftime.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

In all competitions, easily

xpost to Matt DC

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

925 League goals

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

Vialli has over 250 and he's the lowest scorer of the four.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Looking forward to Keown using the word 'efficient' in conjunction with two other adjectives that mean the exact opposite.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Schurrle a flying winger?? WTF Keown.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

watching this in munich. saw a guy in a germany shirt and a balotelli wig in blackface on the subway earlier. hope he's having a good night.

is balotelli suspended for the final?

caek, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

not unless he gets sent off

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

all cards wiped after quarterfinals.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Podolski is having a crap tourney. Get Marco Reus on.

OTM

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

What's a Balotelli wig? Like a little strip down the middle? Not that I'm doubting the resourcefulness of yr subway racist but I am wondering.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

it was a skinhead wig that he had also blacked up, with velcro or fur or something in a stripe down the middle. quite impressive actually.

caek, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

Oh Lahm, should've passed that into the net.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

So well-worked, that - Italy seemed completely powerless to stop it

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Italy getting kinda overwhelmed, actually

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

"Rory Delap he ain't"

gyac, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Cassano fantastic.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Montolivo was terrific.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

I suppose that shot might have caught Robert Green out...

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

germany at sixes and sevens!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

that would have been a super goal

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm, well, Balotelli ensures no further yellow cards today for him.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Not looking likely but if Germany get this to extra-time Italy have used all their subs already.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Mario safe for the final :D

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

funny how neuer's reactions for both goals were a near mirror of each other. no dive, right arm out for first, left for second.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

That is where the space is so good move from Loew I think.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Neuer always makes mistakes like that.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

nice little flick/dummy if u ask me.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

greedy

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Shoulda squared it

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

bad luck selfish

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

italy/portugal would have been fun

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Would've been the best goal ever

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Pirlo is sick

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

meh, portugal aren't that good imo
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

wonder if italy revert to a back 3 vs Spain like in the opening match.

this pitch is awful

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

What is this watery pitch shite ffs

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

way offside?

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

not sure about that one

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

Di Natale was off. Amateurish from Italy.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

what does diamante have on his head?

a. small penis
b. extra thumb
c. hair-covered antenna

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

germany playing 2 at the back

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

ah man fuck italy tho. they won't even turn this into a real hiding

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

how about that Balotelli, eh?

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

di natale will you stay on ffs

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck! How'd you get caught offside 49 yards out?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

mario would've had his hat-trick if he'd stayed on

great tackle

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Spain and Italy really know how to control/close a game.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Love the actual Mario and Luigi in the stands there.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

and they haven't even done any time-wasting! xpost

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

pandemic OTM

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

viva italia

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

They started almost as fast and attacking as Germany, then pumped it up a bit and now they're basically playing possession when they get the ball and bring-it when they don't. Spain vs Italy, I kind of have to root for Italy at this point.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

hello

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

good pen

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

oooooooooh shit

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Awesome pen from Ozil

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

COME ON ZE MANNSCHAFT.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

just a consolation goal

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

neuer winning headers at the half way line!

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Neuer diving header in the centre circle!

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Neuter so great atm

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

another one, he should be playing CB

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't it Neuer who was lobbed by Dejan Stankovic after a header nearly at midfield a season ago?

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Aw why blow now?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck me that was exciting.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

ITALIA

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

fuck them for not hittin that fk, ref otm

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Ha yes, it was Neuer

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

16 years of hurt

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Great game.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Oh Italy, how I love thee

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

not the result i wanted but v v cool game. Italy terrific. Germany should have stuck to their system instead of changing it.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

How come I sometimes think France are my favourites?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Avanti, gli Azzuri!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

2 best defences in the Final.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Commiserations pandemic

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Balotelli standing next to Giovinco is pretty amusing.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

How tall is Balotelli?!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Great game for sure. Man the final is going to be strange.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

6'2 vs 5'4

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ned, all the more so since we've just seen them play a somehwat dull draw in the group stages

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

khedira was good and schweinsteiger in the 2nd half but the rest didn't bring it. Boateng was the out ball but produced one decent cross at most. Ozil was good until Italy scored.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

Nonsense xp, the group game was the second best game at the tourney

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Hummels too aggressive on the first goal.

The group game was good yes.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

group game was a cracker

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

Germany won't win the next World Cup either, that belongs to Argentina.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Pirlo's like a shiny new toy for our panelists

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

cant believe this guy is so good at soccer

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__A72yyd5Nfw/THfg0CicWrI/AAAAAAAAArM/_eeVs8dp01E/s1600/mario_batali.jpg

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

oh dear Keown wheeling out the "German arrogance" cliche

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Keown! Nearly every word is wrong.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Keown "German arrogance" Fuck Off.

A hoy tipped Italy at the start of the tourney I think. I wrote off Italy when they were wretched against Russia pre-tourney.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Keown is actually the worst of the BBC lot just in terms of ignorance

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't the keown-dixon pairing A Breath of Fresh Air when it first arrived? Has the BBC just sucked everything interesting out of them?

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

nah, Keown was just coasting off Dixon and the fact that he sounds a bit posh

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

^^^This.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

Speaking very slowly and sounding thoughtful helped as well.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

He speaks slowly cos he's a yokel

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

group game was a cracker

It was interesting tactically but I look forward to a game that one side or the other has to win.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

Not entirely sure you're going to get it, Del Bosque seems pretty content with 0-0s and Italy might lose their nerve, Cassano might not replicate his great performance tonight, etc.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

hot as hell here, ppl have put their tvs out on the pavement with extension cables. v sad people on our street.

caek, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Torres prolly won't get the call - I remember him being off form in the group game against Italy

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

he had a nightmare when he came on, yeah

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

v pleased to see italy completely outplay a v overhyped & sloppy germany. so many great interceptions, italian positioning was fantastic.

ogmor, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

torres is not on great form, but the italians do often play p high so spain need runners

ogmor, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

disagree that germany were/are overhyped. But yes Italy were v good.
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

shoulda stuck with the quarter-final team though

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

totes

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

just glad to see over-rated EPL failure Balotelli found out at last

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

FOUND OUT

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

german defence has never been v smart even though they are excellent on the ball

ogmor, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

eh he scored an unmarked header (gk might have done better) and cunted one in, hardly definitive.

The desperation for him to be hailed as a current great makes me want to ronan the shit out of ye tbh

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

just sayin'

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

Save it til next February, Andy will have his 20 by then I'm sure and we'll be more receptive to your iconoclastic methods of evaluating strikers.

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

did we ever agree that the ilf fantasy league winner got final say for the year or anythin

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

2nd sentence in and McNulty's described Mario as "enigmatic" in his match report.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Fair enough; I'll stand down. xp

boxall, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

i just need some closure!

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, i completely forgot about the euro 2012 fantasy league.

thanks for yer 7 points today, ozil, now i'm only bottom of one of the two leagues i'm taking part in.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, i'm p sure i won the boxall memorial premier league.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

Ita was very fkning classy - only thing is there was no way they were losing from 2-0 down but still good (as was much of the 1st SF).

Germany haven't been Germany sine Euro '96, have they? Something sad about that. Their back line was totally exposed.

Cassano and (hate saying this) Mario were awesome...but still Mario has to do it in the final, and he's just as likely to lose his rag and get sent off.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Bosque to drop Silva for the final.

Navas and Llorente to come on at some point.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus Navas coming on at some point is a bold prediction.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

lol yes yes ok.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

Silva's not been great

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

Silva/Negredo out, Pedro/Cesc in.

pandemic, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

pirlo vs the best midfield in the world is pretty delicious

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

did we ever agree that the ilf fantasy league winner got final say for the year or anythin

like cristiano ronaldo, i don't want that responsibility.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

eh he scored an unmarked header (gk might have done better) and cunted one in, hardly definitive.

The desperation for him to be hailed as a current great makes me want to ronan the shit out of ye tbh

lol... that said let's not forget how many chances he completely fucked up in the england game. he's still a cartoon character, so far away from ruthless.

really hope italy can do it now, spain have taken on a really grim feeling. never hated cesc at arsenal but he has this gurning, whinging, ref-baiting face these days that makes me despise him.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

he's turned into an ugly man, i think?

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

i'm missing the reference unless that's simply a direct slur.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

he used to be such a looker though
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CBrg2cTGKFU/Rw_AKNLq1CI/AAAAAAAAAM8/fFDvudb11YU/s400/Fabregas.JPG

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

no, you have me rightly

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

it is weird how he has come to represent the cuntish face of that brutally arrogant team. i think pique spitting on the official's head as they were supposed to be celebrating a world cup was a grim watershed. cesc is like the new ronaldo in terms of smug fuck ref whining though. that smiling face and constant shake of the head is horrendous, someone needs to have a word.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 June 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

Phil Brown tried to warn us...

Number None, Thursday, 28 June 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

Say what you like about Fabregas, but at least he wasn't too homophobic to play in England.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 29 June 2012 07:22 (eleven years ago) link

But...the manner in which he was dressed!

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 07:28 (eleven years ago) link

Germany were disappointing last night, their lack of experience was sorely evident. There were three (I think? Cassano, Pirlo, Buffon) World Cup winners in the Italy team and it showed, they played the game exactly right, and bashed Germany on the counter-attack. Schweinsteiger was totally off-key, when on his day he's an amazingly effectively strings-puller. They didn't seem to know what they were doing. Kind of gutted, as I've really enjoyed watching them pull teams apart.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:18 (eleven years ago) link

Cassano isn't a wc winner.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:28 (eleven years ago) link

de rossi and barzagli are though.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:34 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Germany's problem last night was lack of experience really, except maybe at the back. On their day they could have beaten Italy, probably comfortably.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

tactics seemed wrong. who was meant to be getting at pirlo? ozil? kroos? case of what alan hansen would term "who goes for it? you go for it? i go for it? no one goes for it".

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:42 (eleven years ago) link

not sure Buffon played with a WC winner's command all night tbf

mr-c-on-deadmau5-complete-wanker (DJ Mencap), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

who was on the right? There was no space made for ozil/khedira to operate in the middle, nobody stretched them

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:45 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah he fumbled badly two or three times very early on and was lucky there was someone there to clean up after him.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 08:45 (eleven years ago) link

italy didn't look comfortable when balls were whipped into the box (lol buffon almost designed that o.g. earl on), and had no natural full-backs, should've ran at them and put some balls into the mixer, low! easy, bish bash bosh.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:47 (eleven years ago) link

Cassano's "I'll win the WC because I was born when we wont it" thing always confuses me (given that they actually did win it when he was about 25, but not in the squad).

In my mind De Rossi is still only about 22, but I'm living in Roma's past there.

xpost - Yeah, that's the point, Jim - Italy didn't look amazing or impenetrable, but Germany didn't have the werewithal to take advantage, and Italy did, and I put that down to experience and big-game temperament.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 June 2012 08:54 (eleven years ago) link

I actually think Germany screwed up cos they did try to plan for Italy. Went away from their classic shape which BM play and most of Bundesliga and tried to narrow up the midfield. Meant nobody played wide-ish right and Poldi wasn't offering anything left. Of course if they'd played as normal it may have meant the 4 central MFs for Italy dominating anyway but better to go with your usual style I think.

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 08:59 (eleven years ago) link

Having said that they hadn't come across 2 CFs as good as Cassano and Balotelli so far in the tourney either.

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 09:02 (eleven years ago) link

a lot of the players from that german team played in the world cup semi last time around and the euro 2008 final. they're not lacking experience on the big international stage, especially when compared italy. players who are not experienced in the latter stages of international tournaments who played last night for italy: cassano, balotelli, montolivo, marchisio, thiago motta, diamanti, antonio di natale (played in a euro quarter final).

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 09:06 (eleven years ago) link

spain are gonna batter italy. vialli may think that spain won't be able to close pirlo down, but I'll be surprised if he isn't completely neutralised. The german's passed their way through the italian defense too often, and it was only rushed finishing that saved them. I certainly don't think they'll be as effective closing down the spanish as the portugese were. Iniesta's been a POTT, and he hasn't even hit full stride yet.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 29 June 2012 09:07 (eleven years ago) link

If Spain play to their full potential they just won't let Pirlo have the ball in the first place.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 09:11 (eleven years ago) link

The german's passed their way through the italian defense too often, and it was only rushed finishing that saved them

italians had the better of the chances though.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 09:12 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway as discussed upthread, current Spanish midfield rollcall of cuntishness - Busquets >> Fabregas > Xavi >>> Silva >>>>> Alonso > Iniesta.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 09:13 (eleven years ago) link

Possibly being a bit harsh on Alonso there.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 09:13 (eleven years ago) link

also we've already seen spain vs italy. admittedly italy using 3-5-2 instead of the diamond. and we saw that italy could compete with them, match them. until they started fading near the end of the 90 minutes though (which might be the key here).

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 09:14 (eleven years ago) link

spain are gonna batter italy

They might win, but they won't batter them. I think it will be very close.

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 29 June 2012 09:26 (eleven years ago) link

forced to predict an italy win by the maths of my work sweepstake. would probably predict 0-0 at 90mins otherwise.

caek, Friday, 29 June 2012 09:29 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's gonna be similar to the first Spain - Italy i think except with both sides a little more into their rhythm. think this is a quality match-up of styles.

ENPBGIW (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 June 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link

munich last night

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/417543_10150897424081510_1034356037_n.jpg

caek, Friday, 29 June 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link

Busquets >> Fabregas > Xavi >>> Silva >>>>> Alonso > Iniesta.

busquets is a cunt obviously but he has been quiet this tournament. fabregas has really developed as a cunt since moving to barcelona.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 29 June 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

He was always a cunt, even at Arsenal, it was just less noticeable because he spent most of his time doing his sad Victorian orphan face (most recently perfected by one L. Modric).

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

What's Silva done? That's a lot of >s.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 29 June 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

Signed for City. He seems fine but I wanted to patronisingly convey the exalted goodness of Xabi and Iniesta.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link

LOL @ Arsenal buying Podolski.

spain are gonna batter italy

Man, I want Italy to win so much, it's like 2006 all over again!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link

All this Spain hate makes me sad.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 June 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

He was always a cunt, even at Arsenal, it was just less noticeable

I think people started swaying towards the cunt view following the Hull City spitting and sneering and wearing a squinty leather jacket thing. Then the will he/won't he go to Barca thing and I can't remember what other shit - but it's been a growing viewpoint for almost three seasons.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

i wanted spain to lose because i promised myself when they won the world cup 2 years ago that i'd stick a tenner on them every other week to win this thing and kind of never got round to it apart from the first tenner. i'm ambivalent about this final now.

second only to popcorn (or something), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:04 (eleven years ago) link

I kinda want them to break the three-tournaments-in-a-row record actually.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

The playing without a forward thing is the deal breaker for me tbh

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

Like all the Spain MF incl Cesc and want them to win on Sunday.

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'd love to see them get the 3-in-a-row record.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

Generally watch games in a pub full of Arsenal fans who will no doubt be supporting Spain (because of Cesc) in the same way they all supported France (because of Henry... and because Italy are "boring") in 2006

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

really want them to lose. i have italy in the work sweep but would be up for them regardless.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah me too. TBH I am the worst kind of disgusting football savage, a permanent neutral who likes seeing great teams win. And I think Cesc is an amazing, amazing player and good looking to boot. Sue me! That said, Italy were tremendous and it would be great to see them defy expectations. So I really will be happy either way unless the game's boring, but it's hard to imagine it will be.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

I love Italy. Desperate for them to win. It's also by far the better option for excitement.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

the playing without a striker thing is a bit of a red herring. they've actually looked their best and most threatening at times when using cesc as the non-striker (essentially in the role messi plays at barca).

then you take into consideration that they have the greatest crop of midfielders, perhaps ever and that they would be taking one out for who? llorente is completely unsuitable to the system of play, majority of his goals come from headers, he has no pace, he's an old fashioned cf, and don't imagine his fitness is partic great after that season. torres is no more of a goal threat than fabregas at the moment. negredo just isn't that good a player, though he offers a goal threat and maybe could be slightly more compatible than llorente, and is not worth sacrificing a midfielder for imo.

i want italy to win, but i would be happy to see this spain team, the greatest national team i can remember, winning the 3 championships in a row.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

pedro also not fully fit. but i think him and navas on the wings and cesc in the middle dropping deep is a great option to have.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

They started the last game with a striker and he was shit.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'd like to see Torres start, but it's pretty unlikely. A fit, on-form Torres, with Cesc feeding him, and then that midfield behind, would be amazing.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

why would you like to see torres start? because he was once a good striker? by that token they could dig up pichichi's typhus ridden corpse and say a few rosaries and maybe he'd bang a few in.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

and if torres starts cesc doesn't.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link

Would like to see Llorente start actually.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it would be too optimistic to think that after the dysfunctional starting xi vs france, ppl might twig that the 460 isnt inherently NEGATIVE

playing both busquets and xabi is, though

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

Real play with both Xabi and Khedira though don't they?

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

I mean yeah that's a Mourinho one but it's hardly short of attacking flair either.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

I'd like to see Torres start because I've loved him as a player since he was at Atletico. And he seems like a genuinely nice person, too (fuck knows what he's doing at the moral cesspit that is Chelsea). Also, in the 15 minutes or so he played against Italy in the first match he panicked the Italian defence about 4 times, and I think he'd put the willies up them again. I know he won't start, and even if he does it wouldn't be with Cesc, I'd just like to see it.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

khedira is a lot more adventurous than busquets as u will have seen vs greece and against holland when he was a regla third wave attacker

he's as close to the olde english box to box ideal as you'll find

and madrid play a proper touchline winger in di maria most of the time, and cristiano ronaldo rather than iniesta on the left

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

I think the 4-6-0 is fine but it needs one of the midfielders to be pretty direct, to pick the ball up and just go sometimes.

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

silva cesc pedro
iniesta busquets xavi

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

id play torres rather than cesc to start -- gives him more confidence and time to work the defence and find openings than when being subbed on at 70mins and asked to win it

ireland were of course toilet but the spirit he showed to dispossess the defender and score in the 4th minute was exemplary whereas he looks demoralized and lost when introduced into a game

the 460 is better later on when the opposition are mentally drained and more likely to miss runners, rather like the croatia game

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

Also I think an early goal would really help against Italy, better to let them stretch themselves than do what they did to Germany.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

llorente as the focal point for the midfield would be my preferred spain, they crossed plenty in the last game. And they are becoming an inherently negative team in possession.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but as we know u rate carroll and not balotelli

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

llorente is probably the player u think carroll is, but even so he isn't good enough for spain

nor is negredo but he has a v good scoring record for spain and is faster and a bit more technical

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

about the same, maybe

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

italy winning would be funny as that means england would be effectively two penalty kicks away from winning

spain winning would be i dunno, they have been pretty good. if they win i think just before they lift the trophy ronaldo will appear with a steel chair and knock everyone out and then claim the trophy for himself, with terry.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

Vialli described it as more of a 2-8-0. Eventually we'll re-invert the pyramid.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Friday, 29 June 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link

Germany did this in the last 15 mins y'day. Worse, they had Neuer playing holding MF.

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

If Spain can play like they did in the last half of extra time, and Italy play as good as yesterday this could be a great game.

PSOD (Ste), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

Llorente is excellent, and better to have him come on than Navas crossing to no-one

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

neuer's diving header on the halfway line was incredible

Chris, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

Thought Italy last night was the performance of the tournament so far, hope they can keep it up for the final

Balotelli's first goal came just as the people I was with were getting in to a discussion over what exactly Balotelli had done, was good for and why was he even playing when he's so rubbish etc, which was pretty funny

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

I wanted more Neuer madness. Ref was a dick (even though they should have lumped that free)

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

been really impressed wih mario holding the ball up this tournament, bringing others into play. thought he was great in the first spain match dragging their defenders out and coming wide.

Chris, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

spain make me feel like a sceptical boondocks sheriff looking at two moonshone alien abductees- if all this probing is really going on, then why is there no attack?

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

They do attack. Silva and Iniesta in particular have just missed a lot, mostly through shooting from ambitious places, mostly due to not having a striker where one should be.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

the attack pinballs so far, then it peters into a shot (and i dunno do they ever seem to get the guys who can shoot into an area where they get a shot) or it recedes like a beautiful tide back to the centre half for another round.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

the pitch last night was horrible. that should have been a 4-3 CLASSIC and instead we got number nines like klose and di natale tripping over divots instead of putting away chances. khedira wld totally make my team of the tournament though, he was p much the impressive german last night. it's a shame they are out.

but balotelli and cassano is my dream partnership. i felt so frustrated watching last night, the commentary was all about the guy in the premiership despite cassano having the best performance of the euros. his control and poise is a true work of art. and they have the crazy connection thing going on.

the italy team play a style i prefer to watch over spain, they have more enduring characters, a better (4/5 unbeaten depending on who they play) defence and i put a fiver on them at the start of the tournament at 11/1. i'm not rooting for spain.

spain are a deeply unlikable team, or at least it just seems to have grown over the past two or three years. i've always had a distaste for xavi for his arrogant cuntbaggery (more than a club my dickhole), puyol too but he's not there. then there is the racist, so fuck him (go freddy kanoute!). oh and there is something you can't help but resent about a guy on the verge of true everlasting greatness throwing it away to fly around the world, miss training sessions etc. just to be with fucking shakira. and busquiets can go fuck a chainsaw too. oh and i despise their bureaucratic control risk evaluation game. wld be happy for xabi alonso and iker casillas to pick up more medals though.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

They scored as many as Italy in the knock-out stages and more when they were in the same group.
xp

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

They do attack, just not every chance they get. It's like they've carefully worked out probabilities and decided that they need 20% chance of a goal before taking the risk of losing possession. It's utterly maddening watching them wait for the needle to edge over that 20% mark, and particularly when it does and they don't spot it - but it's not a ridiculous way of playing the game, just a rather clinical one.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

re: ken's comment. it's a shame ronaldo won't be there to austin-at-wm17 the spanish if they win but hell, we'll have a beaten balotelli - we could still see something beautiful in the making.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

So Ireland were in the hardest group after all.

Don't really get this dislike of Spain tbh Then again I love Barca as well.

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

It's just boredom I think, not actual dislike. It's like watching a guy get seven-letter words every round on Coundown.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

cassano - balotelli makes me nostalgic for cassano - pazzini at sampdoria at sampdoria (and italy on occasion). a truly wonderful partnership, with pazzini being more of a goalscorer than balo, less of player. the amount of sweet crosses fantantonio would put onto his beautiful bonce :'-c

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

Barca actually score goals though tbf

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

I have this strong feeling that the ESP-ITA midfield battle is going to turn on tactical fouling by Spain, and that they could be in trouble if the referee is of a mind to hand out cards early. Just a hunch though.

boxall, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

Barca actually score goals though tbf

― Number None

where's the vituperation for italy, since theyve scored even less.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Do Barca often rack up the goals against v good opposition? I mean I guess they won that Clasico 5-0 a couple of years ago, but Spain haven't exactly been playing chump opposition in the last 2 tournament knock-out stages.

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

but Italy aren't the bestest team ever

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Montolivo got away with quite a few last night. Not bad fouls but good tactical ones.
xxp

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

but Italy aren't the bestest team ever

― Number None

not sure if you're serious.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

football isnt a comic book.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

"they can't be the best team ever they don't win 3-0 every game."

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

football should be more like comic books

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not stanning for italy either, fwiw. solid outfit that counter effectively, the only thing that annoys me about them is my oft-stated aversion to OOOH MARIO LOOK INNEE MAD LOL whenever he does something stupid and OOOH MARIO WORLDY TALENT INNEE BUT DEMONS ETC whenever he does something half-ok

i don't get hate for xavi or iniesta btw?

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

I miss David Villa

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

ya

pandemic, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

xavi and iniesta are, as far as i can tell from interviews, about as nice as you can expect from footballers, and humble, disinterested in celebrity, etc. puyol made friends with miki roque - who he'd never shared a dressing room with - after he developed cancer because they were from the same region, roque's mother from the same town as puyol, and paid for his cancer treatment. what a horrible guy.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't it just Fabregas that people were expressing hatred for (no doubt he gives a lot to charity, loves his mum etc.)

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

he's got to love his mum, aiui, seeing as she's the only person could love his face

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

fabregas burns horses

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

I possibly bumped Xavi above Silva on the basis of his hubristic pomposity at the start of the tournament.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

my hate for xavi and puyol (and deco, eto'o, ronaldinho, pique, reina etc.) is the 'more than a club' thing continued every week arrogance and that henry and cesc etc. were wasting away why play for arsenal no-one cares about them give up and just play for us, whats london anyway, they most probably have no fans and play shitty football or something, these 3rd division minnows, we are more than a club, political heroes who score 12 a game and are beautiful and beloved by everyone fighting evil we'll let you wear a cape unless you don't immediately fit in and then we'll hate you like zlatan or henry but don't think about that come to us because nothing you have done means anything until it is barca

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah xavi had a bad interview near the beginning.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

he 'more than a club' thing continued every week arrogance

Maybe this is two complaints missing a comma, but do you understand the first part at all? It seems like you think it means something it doesn't.

boxall, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

what was that xavi interview?

Chris, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

well we know why you hate them, sam- you're their feeder club. but i think you need to accept this and move on.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

i hate utd for lots of other reasons, for instance

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

sorry, jarvy interview. motson's pronunciation the best.

Chris, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

I don't really hate any clubs tbh. I consider them all beneath me

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

I want to thank a hoy hoy for writing out almost exactly what I couldn't be bothered to re Spain.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

is the way this spain team plays a result of the same type of changes made in germany after euro 2000, or is just a result of barca/la masia producing these type of players and everyone else being so good that they can easily fit into this tiki-taka system?

Chris, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

I don't see a new fleet of outrageously skilful and intelligent central midfielders on the Spain bench, though there is Thiago Alcantara left out of the squad. Javi Martinez doesn't seem quite on the same level, technically.

boxall, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

Mario Balotelli @45MarioBalo45
Very happy to see john terry cry when we play england, he deserve it..no one can be racist and get away to it

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

im going to take a guess that that's a fake account.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

Fake or no fake, Balotelli OTM

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

it's definitely fake though

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

lol u tard

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

enoch balotelli has/had a twitter acct iirc

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

tangent time, but have any of you got the game "score classic goals" for iphone? it is really fun and i think people here would enjoy it a lot. you basically recreate loads of classic international goals by swiping to pass the ball or shoot in the right place. pretty easy but a nicely designed trip down memory lane.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Mario's real account has his photo with Drake as the icon iirc.

boxall, Friday, 29 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

Vialli described it as more of a 2-8-0. Eventually we'll re-invert the pyramid.

Years ago a friend of mine dimissed Portugal as a goalkeeper and 10 midfield players!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

everyone should watch the highlights of barcelona 5 villarreal 0 from early last season

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

I remember that match, phenomenal even by Barcelona's standards. The high point of Fabregas' season? Too bad it sunk the yellow submarine.

boxall, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

tangent time, but have any of you got the game "score classic goals" for iphone? it is really fun and i think people here would enjoy it a lot. you basically recreate loads of classic international goals by swiping to pass the ball or shoot in the right place. pretty easy but a nicely designed trip down memory lane.

― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, June 29, 2012 2:44 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, this is more fun than it has any right to be

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

this meme has potential
http://i.imgur.com/i6tIC.jpg

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

looool

caek, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

most egregious commentary of the night was calling these jokers "a coupla marios"
http://i.minus.com/iE67qnM67nXgw.gif

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, bristled at that one

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

cue Lawro - "Geeks!"

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Luigi looks like he's shouting DADDY then fixing his moustache.

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

Not a sentence you read too often

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Is that Sacha Baron Cohen on the right?

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

Working on a new character perhaps?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

I think it was one Mario there and one on the bench that made the "couple".

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

It was

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

Spare a thought for Mario Gomez, who started the tournament with a big hype man bellowing his name and ended up the fourth Mario in the pecking order, below Luigi.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

A man in a green dinosaur suit refused to shake his hand in the tunnel.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

Joseph Barton ‏@Joey7Barton

Think this makes Englands performance nowhere near as bad as certain media types made out. England would of beaten Germany on this showing.

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

unlike martin samuel he didn't complain about hodgson's failure to use 'england's baresi', 20 yr old player without a position phil jones

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

omg england's baresi?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

tbf Samuel just quoted Capello, I'm sure he didn't write the headline.

boxall, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i think i just threw up a little

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

not even englands trabelsi tbph

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Phil Jones was outstanding for half a season and calamitous for the second half. Might have been better in there than Henderson though. Rio Ferdinand was taken to France 98 without making it onto the pitch so I'm sure Jones will recover.

It should be illegal to link to Martin Samuel by the way.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

the headline might have been written by someone else but it doesn't traduce his horribly conflated argument which confuses 'phil jones could one day be a very good player' and 'phil jones is presently slightly better at charging around than jordan henderson'

both of which are true enough

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

England's Chimbonda at a push

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

england's chimbonda (former wigan fullback who gets a move to a top six side in their late twenties) = leighton baines

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

I was wondering how long it'd take that argument to appear, didn't think Barton'd be the fool delivering it. Though if I had, I'd've bet good money on it containing the words 'would of'.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

you would'of bet

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

man do i miss this guy

Redknapp said: "You never know what you're going to get with Mario Balotelli but one thing is certain - he is a major talent.

"He stunned Germany in the Euro 2012 semi-final and his second goal was fantastic. I actually tried to sign him for Tottenham before he went to Manchester City. I'd admired him for a while and I went over to Italy to watch him play. I was impressed and I met up with him too.

"We wanted him on a loan deal but his club weren't keen and it never happened. Shame because he's definitely got it and, at only 21-years-old, he'll be terrorising defenders for many seasons to come."

mizzell, Friday, 29 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0629/soc_g_euro-29_mb_576_576.jpg

mizzell, Friday, 29 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

love pirlo and motta in that pic. this is the most likeable italian team i have experienced. i have a soft spot for di natale, so would like to see him play even though balotelli and cassano have been great.

mizzell, Friday, 29 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

My gf has a 'soft spot' for di Natale, too.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 29 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

A guy who sends work my way is a ringer for di Natale, I've been wrestling hard with whether to mention it or not.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 29 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

I like the way they don't seem to have anyone who puts his hands together to implore a referee. That's the main thing.

Alba, Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:32 (eleven years ago) link

There hasn't been much of that from any team and also not that much diving and play-acting, not even from Portugal

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

need to do a poll "diving and playacting vs fouling and kicking" and then abuse everyone who thinks that the former is somehow a worse form of cheating in football.

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

Not been much fouling and kicking either!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:11 (eleven years ago) link

spain really are impressive, they've managed to make all my french friends root for italy on sunday ! which is quite a feat considering there's usually not a lot of love between france & italy in football

Jibe, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:12 (eleven years ago) link

Balotelli managed by Redknapp would have been awesome. What a lost opportunity!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

Platini has to be stopped

Number None, Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

the perfect tournament would be all teams playing each other all the time everywhere

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

Turning the Euros into the CL is a bold/bonkers idea yes.

pandemic, Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link

Just give it to Turkey, but imo this could be a good chance to back down from the 24-team format. Knock-out format, everyone enters, the first few rounds are two-legged home & away, it'd be great.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

NB that won't happen

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, yeah, make it like the old UEFA Cup, no qualifying, unseeded draw, over 2 years away you go.

pandemic, Saturday, 30 June 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't that basically the old European Championships... I mean in the 60s?

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

Supposedly, but afaict nobody's ever seen even a single moment of any of these tournaments (bar Panenka's coup-de-grace)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 30 June 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

has there been a red card since the two in the first game?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 30 June 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

Irish dude vs Italy?

pandemic, Saturday, 30 June 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

https://p.twimg.com/Awpl7GWCMAARzQz.jpg:large

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

diamante looks like a homeless person

still, tho

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

/diamanti

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

front row, center: Giovinco

boxall, Sunday, 1 July 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

Been wondering which player was more hard done by* this tournament, Cazorla (10' v Ireland, 6' v France) or Mata (hasn't got off the bench).

*not wrongly, just in an ability/opportunity sense

boxall, Sunday, 1 July 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

Pirlo needs a place in this team: good defensive midfielder who also has a bit of skill.

― Omar (Omar), Monday, June 14, 2004 1:48 PM (8 years ago)

boxall, Sunday, 1 July 2012 05:08 (eleven years ago) link

Been wondering which player was more hard done by* this tournament, Cazorla (10' v Ireland, 6' v France) or Mata (hasn't got off the bench).

*not wrongly, just in an ability/opportunity sense

― boxall, Sunday, 1 July 2012 03:50 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gotze

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 1 July 2012 06:13 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-A23c30toM&feature=player_embedded#!

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:03 (eleven years ago) link

Been wondering which player was more hard done by* this tournament, Cazorla (10' v Ireland, 6' v France) or Mata (hasn't got off the bench).

*not wrongly, just in an ability/opportunity sense

― boxall, Sunday, 1 July 2012 03:50 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gotze

― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Sunday, July 1, 2012 6:13 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just somebody that i used to know...

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

heh

are gooners worried about podolski yet? he has been absolute pony

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

A lot of players don't perform at summer championships for whatever reason. Xavi has been poor, etc.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link

It's a Newcastle Stéphane Guivarc'h after WC '98 circumstance.
xp

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link

To be fair, Van Persie has been pony as well, whereas Rosicky was amazing in Euro 2004 and has done very little of note since, even before the injuries.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

my initial reaction was to say poldi has way more pedigree than guivarc'h ever had but it's not true really is it

he'll probably be alright tbf

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

in that "the stats prove arteta is a gamechanger" kinda way

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

Sort of thought of him as the new Wiltord.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i was kinda joking, he'll be fine. Put him down for 15 goals, 7 assists, no trophies.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link

podolski has been coasting for years but it's there for all to see now, a big fat waster so he is

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

Arsenal do need another player with loads of talent and no strength of character though.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

uhm that is like the exact opposite of podolski

he is not particularly talented but he's made a good career through being intelligent, reliable, a willing runner and latterly a good finisher

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

podolski has been coasting for years

Kinda thought that tbh but needed it confirmed by people who are more informed on footall in Europe

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

giroud is cut from the same cloth but it seems he requires a lot of chances to score and though he's very strong might lack the explosiveness over the first few yards that counts for a lot in the epl

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

fucking hell, sylvain wiltord

now there's a player who has literally never crossed my mind since he went away

can't really tell if playing in a hot team made him look very decent and probs underrated but my intuition is that poldi can't hold a candle to him

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

similar players

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

they are probably the highest tier of game lads in football, beyond that is the twp category of gameness augmented by a certain amount of actual skill

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

i was under the impression poldi was a jumped up wunderkind tart who had been beaten back by harsh reality into a drudging purgatory of channel shuttling when not being indulged at koln

might be wrong of course

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

That was my impression as well. You can't be a coaster and have strength of character. Otherwise you're making him sound like Dirk Kuyt or some other condescending pat on the head works his socks off type.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

the story at the time was that he was homesick and couldn't hack the extra attention/pressure at bayern but now supposedly he is grown up etc

his international success suggests he can do it so long as he is in a holistically nurturing environment overseen by a benign cossetting manager rather than being a moderately sized country dog cast into the bad newz kennelz of hollywood fc

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

They don't do working your socks off at the Arsenal (xp)

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

i was exactly thinking of kuyt when i wrote that

he is faster and more skilful than him, but still closer to kuyt than pires

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

are you sure he hasnt been guilty of some diva behaviour in his time cos i was dimly convinced

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

possibly? he was certainly hyped up a lot as a kid at a time when germany was still playing gerald asamoah, it was more a reflection on a paucity of young talent than anything else

remember when they gave him the young player award at the 2006 world cup because everyone went all eamon dunphy on cristiano ronaldo

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

The talented but work-shy Straßenfußballer (street player) would benefit greatly from instruction on the pitch. Sadly, he doesn't know it. When Michael Ballack pointed out where the striker should be going against Wales last April, 'Prinz Poldi' angrily slapped the captain round the face.

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but all it takes is a few savage dressing room beatings and humiliations to turn a no good straßenfußballer into a terrierlike game lad

(see also joe cole at chelsea)

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah tbf i pictured what a ballack helpful advice sesh would be like immediately after posting that and the story rather lost its scandal

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

The Azzurri adopted a 3-5-2 system in the matches against Spain and Croatia, but Prandelli assures he is not even considering a return to that tactic.

“In all honesty, no, I haven’t considered it. We maintained a certain balance over the last few games, although we understood that during the match we can switch to a 3-5-2 if we want to.

“The team that opened the tournament had a different approach, but over time we found fitness and the balance we had been looking for, so rediscovered the certainty we had lost before the competition.

“We needed a few more training sessions to bring back the hunger to play openly. We played everyone openly, risking a few things, and we’ll do it again tomorrow.

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

When Michael Ballack pointed out where the striker should be going against Wales last April, 'Prinz Poldi' angrily slapped the captain round the face.

Stick your Ballacks up your arse. Is that story true? Well done the Podster!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

With the exception of a couple of good months here or there, Ballack was a lazy arse at Chelsea, doubt he's exactly a role model.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link

ballack was injured or played beside the fat 2nd rate ballack that is frank lampard at chelsea, which dimmed his effectiveness iirc. imnrc tho

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

yeah im pretty sure 'lazy' is just a stock anglo phrase to describe his haughty prussian bearing and (in his chelsea years) lack of acceleration

the stats showed he was still covering a lot of ground even in those years iirc

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

rly disappointed at our irish bredrin to find that FOUND OUT BILL and GAME LADS don't seem to be 'memes'

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

if the saw doctors haven't put in in a chorus it's not a meme yet

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

irish elder statesman panel memes in order of use in my experience:

okey-doke (herlihy)
foot on the ball, simple pass, moral fibre/courage (giles)
no, no, no (in exaggerated nasal disgust) (dunphy)
starting softly and ending LOUDER AND LOUDER BILLLLLLL (brady)
YOU'RE OVER THE FENCE NOW BABY! (dunphy to conflicted/angered arsenal employee brady after wenger was insulted)
you can't develop good footballers in a democracy (giles/dunphy repeatedly)
abuse of ronaldo (dunphy)

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

special notice to herlihy's masterful use of the accepted wisdom challop, preceded by "I put it to you" or "isn't it fair to say that", most effective on giles just after he's been woken from his usual slumber by a prancing dunphy or possibly a particularly unfibrous display by a continental 'name'

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

herlihy/brady/giles/dunphy is like that milan defence of a few years ago with serginho, favalli, maldini and costacurta

so old, so much more dignity than the rest

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link

I can never remember which things they actually said and which were invented by Apres Match.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 July 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

That article is idiotic, for all Roy Keane's many faults as a pundit I doubt you could have accused him of blandly sitting on the fence over Ireland's performance in this tournament.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

compared to his previous thoughts on previous ireland regimes, and (imo crucially) compared to accepted mainstream commentary, it kinda is a bit vanilla from him tbh

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

That article seems unsure as to when it was Ireland actually did concede the first 2 goals in the Croatia game.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

Spain XI: Casillas, Arbeloa, Piqué, Ramos, Alba, Busquets, Xavi, Alonso, Iniesta, Silva, Fábregas

Italy XI: Buffon, Abate, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Pirlo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Montolivo, Cassano, Balotelli

killer camel beej (cozen), Sunday, 1 July 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Kinda want Italy to do but only after Mario goes off with cramp.

or if its Spain then to do so with a ton of goals, a Barca style demolition job.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Probably get neither. But maybe a headbutt will be involved.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Vialli's enthusiasm is endearing

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

those boring closing ceremonies..

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

oh what a fantastic goal that would have been

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Spain are boring?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

Look determined to win in style.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

Spain killing it tonight

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

that were good

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus that goal

m bison, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

tackle by Pirlo

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

noooooooooo espn freezing/dying

DX Dx DX (dan m), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

An Italian goal is coming

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

otm

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

that was fabulous

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

the end

Ludo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

what a pass

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Any minute now

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

stood up to applaud that

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

that was exquisite

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Beautiful.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

how are Spain so good

m bison, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

spain seems good @ this

johnny crunch, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

Italy clinging on now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

That was a magnificent half of football

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

Boring?

Those 2 goals were just so beautiful.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

A lot of critics are keeping low right this min - great stuff.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

um, do you guys not notice any difference in Spain's approach?

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

shh dont disturb the crowing

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

faster, more incisive
xp

Italy have been decent I think.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

believe this is what's technically known as a schooling

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

decent wont be enough here

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

Iniesta, my G_d!

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

Alba's first touch for the goal is incredible

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

yup
finish not too shabby either

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

Carroll goal of the tournament obv.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Zlatan, Mario, polish dude

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

argh the 'how can you say this is boring' thing's daft. they were tedious as fuck against france. today they've been great.

Chris, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

vialli is such a sycophant

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

200 boring games
1 non-boring game

now they're not boring

killer camel beej (cozen), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

how's lawro doin'?

Chris, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

It's largely down to Italy playing really well I think. Spain beating nobodies is like a grand prix where the winner leads start-to-finish.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

why english ppl are retards = favouring a free header from a pinpoint cross over welbeck's backheel volley in the same game

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

they were conserving their energy vs France once they saw how terrible the French were

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

but did he mean it

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

smdh at boring Spain

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

One priceless Lawro moment, when thingy mentioned Pirlo's quote about losing the final being like going to Rome and not seeing the Pope: "done that a few times"

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Nakchivan OTM re: omission of Welbeck goal.

Italian goal coming soon...

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

I only wish that England could be this boring.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

i just find it funny that fans of england, scotland etc can call anyone boring

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

if only :(

Ludo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Any second now, just you wait

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

the whole point is Spain don't have to be boring. They could be a lot more exciting than they are. How hard is that to understand?

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Casillas has been excellent

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Eeh, this could get bloody

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

that's a penalty

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

games over

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

balotelli has been very quiet.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah xp Italy should close up really, this is done

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Motta was an amateur mistake of the coach

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think he was injured when he came on

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but he didnt play for a while, and didnt warm up enough

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

also, no more subs after 60 min?

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

the motta sub seemed strange anyway, a less attacking player than montolivo at 0-2

rm might have been tiring but with only 1 sub left, it was rash

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

exactly

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Italian goal just around the corner

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

xps Maximum of three subs, Motta himself was the third sub (Italy had an injury and had to use one really early on)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

as i said it was a mistake

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Torres to get the most tragic golden boot

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

wtf was that?!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

One priceless Lawro moment, when thingy mentioned Pirlo's quote about losing the final being like going to Rome and not seeing the Pope: "done that a few times"

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Liked the "fishes and loaves job" as well.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Can't wait for the World Cup and see how the Spanish team (certainly replacements for a tiring Iniesta & Xavi) will do against Brazil & Argentina in their own back yard.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

good chance Spain will also win the next World Cup - almost all pkayers under 30 years old.

nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

Unbelieeeeeevvvaaable

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

really want Mario to steal Nando's golden boot now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

pity substitutions all round now

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Mata!

I guess that assist gives Torres the Golden Boot.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

a statement to the world

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

wow spain is shitting on these dudes

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

poor Italy, they are so knackered

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

so boring

now all my posts got ship in it (dayo), Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

If only Di Natale would've scored...Spain would've gotten more, I guess.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Thing is the match was all over by half-time. In that sense it was boring :)

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

so unfair that this is the side who Spain finally give a pasting to

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

ohh supermario has gone nuts at something

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

but I'm pleased they won it like this

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Zzz spain.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

Eamon Dunphy - "notably, when the national anthem was played none of the Spanish players sang it"

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

zzz indiscriminate spain fans

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

loool shearer "these guys have had an unbelievable amount of sex- SUCCESS"

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

i feel really bad after that. as bad as i can feel after an international game, because italy is my team in the euros. there's a big gulf between the quality of the two, but italy went for them and so the game was open. this meant spain's usual "boring" play was translated into chances and goals, because italy didnt park the bus. so it feels like vindication for the "no striker" tactic, but of course it would've been a totally different game if di natale had scored one of his chances, and prandelli hadnt taken off marchisio, and italy hadn't been reduced to ten men. the last 10 minutes were likely to be an onslaught from spain in any case, as we saw in the first game between the two,but 2 nil down and down to ten men was just too much for them. bruuuuutal.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

omg srsly #0?

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

xavi will probably be there in 2014

iniesta certainly

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Did Italy really fly into Kiev at 3am last night? Someone's going to get absolutely castigated for that.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

Iniesta will, not sure about Xavi - that might be the first big selection mistake. Bosque is ruthless so I reckon he'll let him go.

But hey replacements are there.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

Golden Boot for three goals is pretty lame.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

there were pics of them getting on or off a plane in daylight yesterday

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

it was "a show of solidarity between the Spanish and the Catalans". He wasn't joking

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

there are no replacements for xavi or iniesta

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

thiago alcantara in five years maybe

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

Know what you mean, but actually I can see those levels of passing and fluidity being maintained if Xavi left. They are a team+++

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

it was "a show of solidarity between the Spanish and the Catalans". He wasn't joking

― Number None

that is incredible.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

xavi is amazing, there is nobody else who has ever been able to do what he does

iniesta is similarly amazing in having the skill and vision to rank with just about every #10 this side of maradona while playing in central midfield

spain have loads of great players but those two are above them

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

@Grahamdorrans17 Busquets has now won the Euro's x1,World Cup x1, La Liga x3,UCL x2, Coppa DR x2,UEFA SC x2,Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23. #Justretire

killer camel beej (cozen), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

the whole point is Spain don't have to be boring. They could be a lot more exciting than they are. How hard is that to understand?

cos anti-football's alright as long as you do it with the ball ;)

Chris, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

23. Shit.

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

yes i agree but i think what Spain are able to achieve can be replicated with some of those great players. Its not going to fall off if at least one of them left.

They are quite far above anybody as a collective group, although we will see how that translates to South America and what Brazil & Argentina are like then. xxxp

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

love that graham dorrans is keeping count

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

graham dorrans won promotion to gods own epl tho

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

That Dunphy quote unbelievable!

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Also kudos to Sky Sports News guy - "3 of the goalscorers are from the Premiership so England can take some comfort from that."

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i just don't think they can tho

barcelona look notably weaker without even one of x or i

in their absence spain will become more like any other great side, probably players like muniain martinez and canales playing an ever so slightly more vertical game

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

graham dorrans won promotion to gods own epl tho

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 22:25 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

nakhers man even for you ur damn near foaming at the mouth when it comes to great brit clogging lately, whats up

did a white van man draw a cock n balls on your moleskine or something

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

dorrans isnt a clogger, hes pretty nifty

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

and yeah i was responding to sky news and their gloating at epl 3 serie a 0

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

after euros finishing i am bereft.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

ya, i just wanna rewind my life 3 weeks and start it all again.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

im realizing how im kicking english fitba a lot right now but it's just sitting blind drunk and vomitstrewn on a surrey golf course and it's just asking for a five iron's coup de grace to the temple

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

not gonna stop til phil jones and daniel sturridge are the only english players in the epl

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah see i was already itching to get back into the epl swing of things even before tonight's festivities

i mean i do know in my heart of hearts it's deplorable in every way but i guess in a general sense i'm still loving da banta as it were

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

You guys. I feel like I've been demobbed, six weeks of respite isn't long enough.

Give it a week and I'll be agog at Terry with the rest of you.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

<3 nakh

Not read thread yet, hope nobody's giving it the ”are they STILL boring now eh? Eh?” after that. Cos that's the first ambitious spanish performance i've seen this tournament.

They are incredible tho.

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

epl last year was great but maybe i'll follow the bundesliga next year

trouble is that everyone apart from the top six kinda bleeds into one, you don't get content like qpr or west ham

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

i keep watching those two through balls over and over and over they're just incalculable

r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

^ same here

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 July 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

if you're talking about the first two goals, i mean

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 July 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

i missed the first half and watching it now, casillas' fingertips were men of the match contenders

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

each one of his fingertips from I to XI was different class

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

i just find it funny that fans of england, scotland etc can call anyone boring

― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper)

i believe that noted ilfer 'darraghmac' tackled this very subject with aplomb in the post-wc2012 depression thread on ilx- epl fans' addiction to drama has left them bereft of patience/tolerance for the style of possession and movement that is required for consistent success in international tournaments

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

the wc, you will have noted, took place in 2010

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

nakhers man even for you ur damn near foaming at the mouth when it comes to great brit clogging lately, whats up

did a white van man draw a cock n balls on your moleskine or something

was thinking this also, but didn't want to start some row by saying it. i assumed these feelings were just more prominent due to the brief fervour about england/roy.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

exorcising the zeitgeist never as U&K as when the english feel optimistic about football imo, usually means that postpub kickings are due a rise and probable invasion of a developing nation is just around the corner

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

think we're at capacity at the mo for finding small strategically located countries to have "wars" in

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

tournament football turns me into the biggest anti-english cunt in the world purely due to the coverage that you get in britain. yet i'll still be dribbling, like nakh, all over whatever monikered epl thread - which will have more posts in it than all of ilf combined - in a few weeks time.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

i know that all commentating is horrible, but from the commentating that i have experienced and can understand (scottish, english, spanish, latin american), english is the most parochial and infuriating.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

xp i dunno, i hear liz and philip were on a fucking scouting mission again lately

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

tell you what re commentating, ray fuckin houghton forced me to watch the final on itv. that's alarming.

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

even the picture seemed worse on ITV

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

I actually flicked between ITV, BBC, and RTE. Gave 'em all 15 minutes each per half. They're all shit btw

Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

would "worst commentator on british tv for euro 2012" be a good thread, yes or no?

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

craig burley for me. or maybe lawro. lawro's puns were making me want to cry.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

burley easily

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

The champion/burley combo is truly the worst. Peter Drury is up there though.

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

there was very little public enthusiasm tho, far fewer england flags on cars, very few supporters travelling, no reports of the usual post-exit riots in croydon and birmingham etc -- the worst patriotism queens in london this year are alas the bourgie shitheads with their union bunting tea parties (eugh)

this year it felt like the media really had to step in with the obnoxiousness -- the post group stage topofthefackinworld boosterism, chiles wishing ibrahimovic to get injured, bright doing his bit for nominative determinism, lawrenson hitting new lows of disinterest, lineker's hatefully joyless 'come on england', martin samuel saying all sorts of stupid things you didn't read cuz well good for you

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

lineker welcoming us in for halftime in the portugal-espana game with 'well that was boring' was kinda all-time

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

just warming up for the Olympics which if i gave enough of a shit about to watch more than the 100m will be fully by jingo horrendous

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

you've got andy murray in the wimbledon final to look forward to before then NV

pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

like the dolts i see with union jacks waving from their cars are certainly desperate for any excuse to flaunt one

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

i kinda like Murray as a bloke i just hope he drops some "fuck off Englishes" funny if he gets to the final

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

still think he'll choke tho

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's difficult not to like his surliness, lack of social skills and estrangement from home counties LTA pieties

look forward to him accidentally saying something offensive about bonnie prince charlie or margaret thatcher at some point

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

this used to be the No. 1 result for "i hate andy murray" but has sadly fallen off in recent times

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/06/i-hate-andy-murray/

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

I think Andy Murray is the most loathsome thing to represent “British” sport this guy is not “British” he is Scottish, most of the English cannot stand his conderscending and patronising swagger and mannerisms. The other thing is all of the idiots dresed up is union flag clothing (made in China) looking like the Chavs they are jumping on the badwaggon of some nasty guy. The guy is Scottish, just like David Coulthard and Colin McRae. They do not represent the English or the Welsh or the Irish. The notion of British is convoluted rubbish and Anrew Murray is the prime example of Media bandwagoning and “I think I am the best” Murray.

missing a "cockroach" or 2 but otherwise why i find Murray pretty defensible

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

andy murray is a cunt. just because he disgusts the english by simultaneously never winning a grand slam and not being english does not make him ok. there's no good guy in this story.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

guys can we just go back to the fact the spain has basically solved football forever

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

does andy murray like twilight tho

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

these are the only questions left now

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

just

just imagine tho

how good would spain be

with a BIG MAN up front like

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

to get on the end of it

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

make things happen, for the weemen to run onta

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

new challenge -- gis a picture of andres inesta looking smug

the smuggest thing is that you know he is so smug inside but just continues looking like casper the friendly ghost so indie people who hate ronaldo and find messi too good will continue to have him as their favourite player

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

p sure il papa didn't f/w ghosts, tho this also shoots my vampire theory out the water too

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/snapshot20090512221550.tif/

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

hmmm, close as i can get

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01394/iniesta_1394265a.jpg

Number None, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

searching iniesta petulante yields a rooney pic before the man himself lol

anonymous thoughts sharing (toandos), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

Lol, Steven Gerrard made Garth Crooks' Team Of The Tournament, playing as a #10.

pandemic, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/MvGn4.jpg

r|t|c, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

not bad

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

nah

mookieproof, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

he looks a little self satisfied tbf. i mean, justifiably and all but still it's there

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

'e looks like some fookin' guy off the street innit? 'e's less smug than ronaldo's adam's apple

mookieproof, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

(sorry)

mookieproof, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

ah c'mon yr changing the rules midway

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

i don't even know the rules : /

mookieproof, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

if i recall my wdylls well enough i think andres bears a bit of a resemblance to our own darraghmac.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmst720WL61qe41us.gif

joe, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:56 (eleven years ago) link

eh only baldness and maybe pallor tbh merdey

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:56 (eleven years ago) link

that gif is scary more than smug but i guess he needs the money

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

thoughtful balls, tho xp

mookieproof, Monday, 2 July 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

Sir, – Is it just a coincidence that the four countries which reached the semi-finals of the European Championship were all ruled by fascist dictators during the middle third of the 20th century? Or did this experience somehow instil unshakeable ethnic self-belief, invincible national pride and a disciplined determination to defeat the opposition?

On the other hand, of the 16 qualifiers, Ireland is the only country that has enjoyed an unbroken history, since the mid-20th century, as a democratic republic – and we finished a dismal last! What do we need to change: our players, our manager or our political system? – Yours, etc,

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bob.dunning/giles2.jpg

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

I look smug as fuck every time I eat an ice cream, to be fair.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 08:56 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah nothing says invincible national pride like La Liga.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 July 2012 08:56 (eleven years ago) link

And I challenge anyone on earth to score the winning goal in the last minute of extra time in the world cup final and then not look at least a little pleased when caressing it an hour later.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link

Ireland is the only country that has enjoyed an unbroken history, since the mid-20th century, as a democratic republic

Wow, that is ages

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2012 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

Managing to avoid fighting the Nazis in World War II kinda helped there

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

I think the high ground's being taken over 'republic', rather than lack of national government.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 July 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, well, they're right then!

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

Because y'know, god forbid Ireland be lumped in with Sweden

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 July 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

They definitely won me over last night (xp)

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

There is a downside to last night, and it's that parking the bus is *still* the best way to play against them.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 July 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

Em and I have been watching them closely since the 2008 WC now. They're the only international football team she gives two figs about, and Barcelona are the only club team (other than her genetic and geographic Man Utd-ness). I've actually found the ire directed towards them recently really upsetting, heaven knows why, because I shouldn't have any emotional investment in them by typical standards and contexts; I just love to watch them play, and thing they are a. good. thing. ideologically.

xpost: that's true, but you can't blame Spain for other teams playing unimaginitive all-men-back tactics.

Last night was the best final to an international competition that I can remember.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

think not thing

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

We also shouldn't blame Spain for the coming explosion in (shitty) teams playing without a centre forward next season

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:20 (eleven years ago) link

Holla.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 July 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

No, blame Scotland for that.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

A prophet is without honour in his own land

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

Actually we can probably thank Scotland for the invention of tiki-taka, going all the way back to that first game against England where England did nothing but dribble and the damn abominable Scots passed the ball to each other like heathens or communists.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:28 (eleven years ago) link

Some kinda metaphor goin' on

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

SM is a passionate individual iirc

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

BARCELONA 4-0 SOUTHAMPTON 12-5-1998
De la Peña (2), Mario, Luis

Barcelona: Baia, Reiziger, Nadal, Couto, Roger, Amor, De la Peña (Xavi), Mario, Oscar (Ferron), Sergi (Jofre), Pizzi (Luis).

Southampton: Jones, Warner, Benali, Richardson, Dryden, Lundekvam, Basham, Saberski (Bridge), Hirst (Sarli), Palmer (Gibben), Beresford.

r|t|c, Monday, 2 July 2012 11:13 (eleven years ago) link

carlton palmer was the crucible the debutant xavi was forged in

r|t|c, Monday, 2 July 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

Carlton Palmer and David Hirst. Fucking hell.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

Carlton Palmer was the proto Patrick Vieira.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

england players!

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

when he went out, carlton palmer kept a shirt in his boot to change into if there was a fight.

caek, Monday, 2 July 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

Spot the odd one out

Euro 2012 team of the tournament: Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Ita), Iker Casillas (Spa), Manuel Neuer (Ger)
Defenders: Gerard Pique (Spa), Fabio Coentrao (Por), Philipp Lahm (Ger), Pepe (Por), Sergio Ramos (Spa), Jordi Alba (Spa)
Midfielders: Daniele De Rossi (Ita), Steven Gerrard (Eng), Xavi (Spa), Andres Iniesta (Spa), Sami Khedira (Ger), Sergio Busquets (Spa), Mesut Ozil (Ger), Andrea Pirlo (Ita), Xabi Alonso (Spa)
Forwards: Mario Balotelli (Ita), Cesc Fabregas (Spa), Cristiano Ronaldo (Por), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Swe), David Silva (Spa)

Number None, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:02 (eleven years ago) link

Gerrard ahead of Mountinho? Crooksy is that you?

pandemic, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link

Gerrard and Ibrahimovic both failed to get to the semis. Zlatan didn't even get out of the group stages.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link

you've seen teams of the tournament before? you know they're not just based on how the team that player played in did?

caek, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

e.g. gerard hit over 3 good crosses in nearly 400 mins of football so he clearly deserves his spot

caek, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

and they were both standouts in fairly crap teams tbf. Gerrard got three assists in four games which i'm sure is up there

Number None, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

Iniesta got player of the tournament btw

Number None, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i don't think either inclusion is ludicrous tbh. it's a big (and wholly imaginary) squad.

caek, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

Lol at both the Golden Boot winner and the dude he narrowly edged out both failing to make the squad.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

I would say the inclusion of Balotelli is somewhat debatable. Though i'm not sure who you would put in his place

Number None, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

Samaras, clearly.

pandemic, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

Actually Greek right sided frwd who came on as sub in first game, scored and who set up Samaras goal vs Germany? Was also good vs Russia iirc.

Or Madzukic.

pandemic, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

I was just spotting the odd ones out.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

Gerrard's probably the only one who can only speak one language.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

they have filled 3 of the 5 spots with non-strikers

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

(re forwards)

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

which is appropriate really

Number None, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

nice blog apart from the 'boring' bit. no-one's calling what they did last night boring. i understand zonal marking and net spend. i understand resting with the ball. there are 14 triangles and 4 diamonds in a 4123 formation. spain are probably the greatest team of all time, they're usually lovely to watch. but that spain-france match was fucking tedious.

Chris, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

the best national side, maybe, certainly not the best side

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

they nicked everything from cole-yorke

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

"Striker" denotes 'pure' goalscoring, whereas "forward" (or "attacker") denotes something slightly different. Balotelli as striker, Cassano as forward.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

But yeah, I was careful to put 'international team' in the body text, and not talk about Milan or Real Madrid or Barcelona or Ajax etc etc.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

i'd like to see brazil 2k2 vs this spain team, hopefully someone will arrange it

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

PES 2012
COM vs COM

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 July 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

brazil classic vs spain?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 July 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

That Brazil front three is probably pretty lardy right now, I wouldn't like their chances.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

where is kleberson these days

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGF_ZfH_kOE

don't think about shakira don't think about shakira don't think about shakira DOH

r|t|c, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

lol!

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

the HUNGER and the DESIRE from these guys

r|t|c, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

the brazil front three

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

wrt hunger

Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

love this shot of the airport workers

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/02/article-2167715-13E4FE37000005DC-843_634x441.jpg

mizzell, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/wv4CL.gif

killer camel beej (cozen), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 06:44 (eleven years ago) link

Is this really such a great gesture?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvg5DxMR0EA

Number None, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

idgi

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

Casillas tells little ref behind the goal to stop the game "out of respect". Whistle goes a few seconds later. Everyone calls Iker a true sporting gentleman etc.

Number None, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

shortening a contest because you're battering a team wouldn't be very respectful imo

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah they could've just respectfully stopped scoring

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

It's a suspiciously American way of thinking to my mind. Plus what's dude behind the goal supposed to do anyway?

Number None, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

FINISH HIM

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

xpost how is that american?

DX Dx DX (dan m), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

isn't it frowned upon to run up scores in some American sports

Number None, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

slam dunks are considered bad form in some Ivy League b-ball teams

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

maybe at like recreational or high school level xp

DX Dx DX (dan m), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

aren't quarterbacks expected to kneel in the last minutes of games instead of scoring another touchdown etc. iirc belichick and the patriots got some flak at some point because they kept scoring against helpless teams and people thought that wasn't nice or something ?

Jibe, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

In Italian football teams generally don't go beyond 4 goals.they'll just be a tacit agreement to pass the ball around and run down the clock.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link

aren't quarterbacks expected to kneel in the last minutes of games instead of scoring another touchdown etc. iirc belichick and the patriots got some flak at some point because they kept scoring against helpless teams and people thought that wasn't nice or something ?

― Jibe, Tuesday, July 3, 2012 11:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is usually done in close games when a quarter or half is about to end to eliminate an interception or fumble which could allow the team on defense to score.

mizzell, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i got a bit confused there. i'm still pretty sure about that story about teams being very resentful towards the pats and accusing them of running up the score when there was no need for that.

Jibe, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

like a few teams whining about being destroyed by the pats or somethingin a couple of articles

Jibe, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 07:27 (eleven years ago) link

Casillas comes across as patronising more than anything there IMO

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 07:36 (eleven years ago) link

every day, new ways to hate Spain

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 07:42 (eleven years ago) link

baseball is full of this 'running up the score' crap. Don't steal bases if you're up by 6 or 7 in the late innings, don't swing hard on a 3 ball 0 strike count if you are handily ahead etc etc etc.

pandemic, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:19 (eleven years ago) link

The only time I've ever heard of American teams in any sport not running up the score is this situation: baseball team ahead by seven or more runs, runner on first. If the manager sends the signal for him to steal second, that's considered bad form.

Otherwise, guys don't stop because of their STATS. Why would a guy purposely lower his own stats? Cause he loves giving himself a weaker hand in the next round of contract negotiations?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:21 (eleven years ago) link

i think maybe it seems american because the formal mercy rule for kids/amateur play is not used in britain afaik

caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:23 (eleven years ago) link

He probably just wanted to get down the pub.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:30 (eleven years ago) link

Kids' football, in my day anyway, always had brutal scores - the local papers were full of 13-0 and 14-0 wins. Even that might indicate a bit of mercy though - with two totally mismatched teams one could run in a goal a minute if it really wanted.

The pro game can't've had any truck with mercy in ye olden days, but I reckon there's usually a tacit understanding that four or five is enough, with seven as an absolute upper limit. Man Utd putting eight past Arsenal seemed horribly transgressive, and the couple of nines they've managed too.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link

Aye, but when leagues could come down to goal difference, hammering the opposition if possible is actually quite useful.

(I realise this doesn't apply in the Euro final)

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link

I absolutely 100% subscribe to hammering the opposition, and I wish we'd done it at 5-a-side on Monday instead of slowing down when we were 7-2 ahead and then getting beaten 15-11.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

I remember saying in the Prem thread last season (possibly re Chelsea-QPR) that no team ever scores five before half time - four is relatively common

mr-c-on-deadmau5-complete-wanker (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 10:12 (eleven years ago) link

5-a-side on Monday was super-amusing as everyone made a conscious effort to play like Iniesta for the first 20 minutes, and then lapsed into the usual headless-chicken dribbling and rushing when concentration lapsed.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

Man Utd putting eight past Arsenal seemed horribly transgressive, and the couple of nines they've managed too.

'Only' the one nine, isn't it? (v Ipswich in 95)

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

this was pretty awkward i remember http://uk.soccerway.com/matches/1993/03/02/england/premier-league/sheffield-united-fc/tottenham-hotspur-football-club/555420/

caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

I know Spurs did it recently, but I thought you'd had a big one over Forest too

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

That was 8, I think

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, it was 8-1. Solskjaer came off the bench to score four

Number None, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

It is pretty funny to hear about an actual minnow getting smashed, like Germany taking San Marino(?) for 13. God knows what that game where Australia scored 31 was like.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

Many years ago I joined a five-a-side league (with some mates, not as a one-man team) and we got absolutely slaughtered. The scorelines were something like 21-3 and 18-1 and the games were only 45 minutes long, iirc. Unimaginably dispiriting - our goalkeeper would roll it out to one of us and we'd immediately be closed down with no passes on and either lose possession or pass it back to the keeper again. After two matches we just gave up.

Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

cruyff testimonial to thread

perhaps my fave single football match ever

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

The meaninglessness of the match is what makes the Cruyff testimonial so awesome. Bayern just dished it out purely to fuck with them.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:10 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno if the actively decorous mercy thing in footer really rings true tbh, it's just a natural gestalt subconscious fluctuation in desire

like the final on sunday spain were alright with seeing it out and then the wind suddenly changed for a bit and it was all wahey

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

'Only' the one nine, isn't it? (v Ipswich in 95)

Ipswich totally deserved that stuffing after the misery of the 6-0 defeat they dished out to Man Utd in 1980 iirc.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

Anyhow, what's this about England rising to #4 in the FIFA rankings?

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

i can't work that out, there must be a bunch of teams who consistently place higher than us in tournaments, assume the rankings are based on some kind of Sensi Soccer pool in FIFA HQ or sumpn

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

Australia vs Samoa was a circus partly because there was visa trouble which kept all but one of Samoa's original team out, and their under-20 team was doing exams. They had to draft in their youth team - the average age of their 11 was 18.

Mind you, the previous record was Australia 22-0 Tonga, two days before.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

i think pretty much all the teams that played in the euros went up in rank. if you didn't play competitively this year then you go down, e.g. brazil

caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

you know i'm obliged to do an "England did not play competitively this year" line now, right?

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

there was some complaint in italy when roma scored seven vs someone crap a few years ago (when they were playing the og 460)

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah well i'll believe anything with italian's bizarro honour/corruption confection

i do quite like prandelli's code of conduct thing although he'd probs get sued or something doing that in england

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

what was the reaction when united gubbed roma that time, fair dos theyre foreign savages or this is just not cricket?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

"Last night was an epochal beating that Italian football has never previously suffered at the hands of the English," says Roma fan and columnist Candido Cannavò. "Now I run to father Dante to find out what circle of Hell my beloved Roma has fallen into: maybe that of the proud and vainglorious. Conceding three goals in eight minutes could only have happened to a squad that thought it was divine."

Number None, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

conceding three goals in eight minutes is forgiveable, conceding a goal to alan smith (who hasn't scored in any of the five following seasons iirc) will besmirch their name for eternity

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

actually he scored two whole goals on his loan spell at mk dons last season, no word on which teams were responsible though

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

sheff utd of course

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, I'd forgotten Alan Smith existed.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

For many it felt like a necessary game too, one that not only closed a unique cycle, of Euros-World Cup-Euros, but closed the debate too. Amid the criticism and accusation, the final felt like the kind of performance Spain needed.

XA: No, no, no. We were secure and calm, confident in what we were doing, confident that we were doing things the right way. I thought a lot of [the criticism] was demagogic. I laughed at a lot of what I read.

You read it? Footballers always say they don't read the papers

XA: No, I read things. I read things, but I don't change my mind because of them. I am very clear in my own mind. I knew what was being written in 'X' country or the other country. I laughed a lot. A lot.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/03/spain-euro-2012-xabi-alonso

dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

awes quotes

deems irreverent (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'm watching the final now. I was in a pub with a non-football-liking person on Sunday night and saw bits out the corner of my eye, knew the score etc. but didn't get to fully appreciate it. At half time now. I think Jordi Alba's goal is gott if only because the run he made was oh so very spectacular in a way you never really see. It is things like that which should make Spain a lovable team and it is a shame they were much more reserved in the France and Portugal games.

This Spain isn't the best international team of all time. The Spain of 2008 is imo. If only because 2012 Spain have two positions not playing to ABSOLUTELY-PERFECT-STANDINGS as Cesc just isn't a v good false 9 and they do not, now or ever, actually need XA AND SB when they could have someone provide width. But these seem like such minute details regarding what is 9/10ths of the same team. Oh and I've obviously not seen those Hungary or Uruguay or Brazil teams to compare.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

Spain 08-12 basically counts as the same team. Villa and Puyol would have been in there had they not been injured.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

Marcos Senna, how quickly we forget

Number None, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

Capdevilla and Torres rip

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

This sort of thread is why I Love Football exists. It is ILX's version of the pub where endless footie conversations take place every single day and night of the week.

***---> Endless! Footie! Conversations! <---***

When such a heaven exists, why would anyone not want to go to heaven?

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

One day, eventually, we will run out

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

one day we will tog out, you mean

deems irreverent (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

'Only' the one nine, isn't it? (v Ipswich in 95)

Ipswich totally deserved that stuffing after the misery of the 6-0 defeat they dished out to Man Utd in 1980 iirc.

― gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, July 4, 2012 1:31 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally deserved. as an ipswich fan living in manchester i'm not sure where to start with that sort of one-eyed nonsense.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

haha. reading about that cruyff testimonial. pretty funny in a cruel kind of way.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 5 July 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

Actually the real best thing about the Cruyff testimonial is Cruyff unashamedly having a fag in the middle of the game.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 July 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

are there any good articles on it

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 5 July 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

Is that real, Matt?! Awesome.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

Tiny bit in The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/22/least-successful-testimonial-match-ever):

And take Johan Cruyff's farewell fixture for Ajax against Bayern Munich. You might think the result doesn't matter in a testimonial and, by and large, you'd be right, but what about when the team you invite turn up and give you a proper shoeing?

"The German champions wanted to show their Dutch counterparts something after earlier defeats and not being welcomed at Schiphol Airport," writes Dave G Boham. "They even had to sleep at a sub-par hotel. After jeers from the crowd, they showed their hosts something. Three goals were disallowed during the 8-0 hammering dished out by the Bavarians. The Ajax players just wanted to have a good time. In 2006, Bayern apologised."

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't get to watch much of the tournament (combo of working when games were on/not actually being fussed about it at all), but did I get any predictions right? http://noisey.vice.com/blog/euro-2012s-most-predictable-soundtrack--cliches

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 5 July 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

The Song They'll Probably Use: "Sexy And I Know It" by LMFAO. It works on two levels, one for the actual sexy shots of buxom Swedish girls picked out by pervy camermen (no doubt on the behest of Lineker) and for ironic purposes when juxtaposed against some beer-bellied brute from Dagenham doing the Macarena.

I feel like this was done at some point.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

The song at least; I can't remember the setting.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

England's exit got a cover of 'In The End' by Linkin Park. I don't think anyone could summon the enthusiasm for a Torres montage, but his kids were cute.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 July 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

who did the horrible cover of "thriller" after the final?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

Imogen Heap.

Chris, Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

Zonal Marking's TOTT http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/07/04/zms-team-of-euro-2012/

---------------------------Casillas--------------------------
--Pereira-----------Pepe----------Ramos-------------Alba-----
---------------------------Pirlo-----------------------------
--------------------Khedira-------Mountinho------------------
-------Jiracek-------------------------------Iniesta---------
---------------------------Fabregas--------------------------

pandemic, Friday, 6 July 2012 07:17 (eleven years ago) link

Jiracek?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 July 2012 07:30 (eleven years ago) link

where did rooney go?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 6 July 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

went to grab lunch

from the desk of mr. and mrs. eazy and sheila e (m bison), Friday, 6 July 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link


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