Scott-O -- as in Scott Walker and SunnO)))

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http://scott-o.com/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bri3jDeIMAAkPXc.jpg

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lulu.jpg

You beat me by like ten seconds. Bah.

Scott O)))

one thread should be for discussion, the other should be used for sheer amazement keyboard splatterings

And what about the thread for the inevitable Pre-Covers?

YES

I see no reason not to do that. Let's wait for a tracklisting at least.

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I'll give you 21... dollars for the LP version.

Wait...this...this is actually happening? Because holy fuck.

crüt otm

it's kind of funny being the "I don't get it" dude and watching all of your friends go apeshit bananas over a URL that leads to a JPG

faints

They should've called it SCUNN O)))

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two of the only reasons to live have combined...to create an additional reason to live

this could be the not terrible LULU

Anyone else been secretly hoping this would happen?

Totally. And it seems quite 'logical' for this to be Scott Walker's next venture. He's so far ahea, what else could he be doing except break another musical barrier?

My guess is he wants to try playing live again.

Not sure if my mind would be able to cope with that.

I had thought of SunnO))) but thought it was too unlikely. I was holding out for Scott and Burial but this… is the jackpot.

it's too perfect really. i feel like i've stepped out of reality into an infinitely improbable dimension

so heavy

Other thread title was better

Mine was best:

The SUNNO))) AIN'T GONNA SHINE ANY MORE?

I was just coming here to say tQ tweet wins the internet.

:-)

This look goods, but instead I'm eagerly awaiting next year's project, imagO)))

would love to hear a Dyson vacuum through an Ampeg stack

ruthless lol

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(I am mildly anticipating this)

tbh I didn't really get into Bish Bosch, and I'd rather listen to Climate of Hunter than Tilt. I have super high hopes for this though.

drftt

sunn o))) and ulver will be forgotten so soon :(

a) people can be aware of more than one record, b) Sunn O))) and Ulver isn't exactly a weird combination, c) nor is Ulver a pan-generational legend, d) oh, I see you've forgotten the Sunn O))) and Nurse With Wound collaboration already? ;_;

sunned

lol

:)))

ha, I was being knowingly silly there anyway

this may well rule

(fwiw I also have the Sunn O))) & Boris album knocking around)

Always thought Boris should do a version of Carmina Burana, then they could call the project Boris Carl Orff

my note of caution would be, that although these are both exceptional artistic institutions, there is no guarantee that their combination will produce work with a coherence of vision & expression that outdoes their original enterprises

countering this, however, is Sunn O)))'s brilliant history of collaborations (KTL added to the above), and the sheer intrigue factor in how it'll turn out

on balance, I'm excited, although I'm not yet expecting the greatest art-music of our age

Xp just fp'd u looking for the "like" button

No regrets

There is never a guarantee that anything will be good

Yes, but I'm saying that with two contrasting visions in combination, it could be awkward, although this is countered by Sunn O)))'s record with these things (usually taking a compositional back seat AFAICT, but adding brilliantly to the overall sonic miasma)

What are the best collaborations y'all can think of?

What!? Is this real?

This is amazing and makes way more sense than LuLu

Leaked album details: Scott0))) release to be called Giggly Friendship Fun, a study of all the participants' bronydom.

Is Oren Ambarchi going to be involved in it as well?

I'm also gonna leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ceW4bimyA

(and listen to it)

The cherry thing! xps

oh yeah that was p gr8

scott w is pretty much my favorite living musician but I've never quite gotten into sunn O))). News of a new scott project is celebration time around here, though. Here's hoping SW is squarely in the driver's seat and that Peter Walsh and Brian Gascoigne are involved as well.

where did people get an inkling this announcement was coming? I'd heard nothing

If they could do something a bit like Alice but with Scott singing, I think I'll die happy.

Jon Lewis - for me it was just a slash fiction dream I had when I put some Drift and Monoliths tracks side by side on a mix tape. Don't think there were any hints.

i.e. http://www.mixcloud.com/doglatin/eadphuk-vol3/

Bamber Gascoigne is involved? That's me on board, then.

I got a heads up on this a few months ago and was sworn to secrecy on pain of death. The couple of things I know. Scott's in the drivers seat but he wrote the material w/ Sunn 0))) in mind. I know Scott's long term music supervisor was heavily involved in the session too...

HEY EVERYBODY: WE'RE ALL GONNA GET LAID!!!

. I know Scott's long term music supervisor was heavily involved in the session too...

That's Walsh I think? Excellent.

While we wait, what can I listen to that'll get me more excited abt sunn? I haven't checked in w them in a few years.

Collaboration with Ulver is supposed to be v good

I personally think that the Ensemble Pearl side project (members of Sunn O))), Boris, and Jesse Sykes & the Sweet Hereafter) lp from last was massively underrated, most people seem quite meh about it. I thought it was a masterpiece.

edit: from last year

will sound like a year at the dentist's

The first track on the Ulver collab is fantastic. The stuff with vocals, not so much. Pretty much anytime they collaborate with a vocalist (who's not Attila), I start yawning. Not particularly looking forward to this record for that reason.

The Ulver collaboration was fine but a bit on the short side and not the earth-shattering accomplishment that some people were expecting. I like it but it's not amazing.

Atilla's vocals I've mostly gotten used to but a great deal of it is extremely hammy and daft. Walker would be a definite step up.

The Ulver collaboration was fine but a bit on the short side and not the earth-shattering accomplishment that some people were expecting

― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 20:04 (15 minutes ago)

such small portions etc

lol morbs

I am claiming my place on the pre-version album, like, right mow!

right now, even!

Is there a tracklist yet?

Nope

kinda surprised scott has another set of songs already, only a year and a bit after bish bosch

xp
Morbs has the title scoop though "a year at the dentist's".

will sound like a year at the dentist's

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:47 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...if your dentist has the lugubrious pipes of scott walker, sure.

He always says he wants to do another record soon when he releases something. But yeah amazed it's actually happening this time. Then again, it could be more of a pendant work like punishing kiss was to tilt or and who shall come to the ball? was to Drift.

Then again, the two punishing kiss songs are abso top shelf scott so we should be so lucky.

That's my guess too, Jon Lewis. Although Oblique up here said it was mainly SW's project. Maybe working with O'Malley just opened up something and made way for lots of creativity.

Plus, wins said 'a set of songs', but it could just as well be a 2x25mins compositions lp.

In my view Monoliths and Dimensions is SunnO)))'s crowning achievement. Love Attilla's vocals, reminds me of Gary Oldman in Dracula.

In my view Monoliths and Dimensions is SunnO)))'s crowning achievement.

That and the Oracle EP, yeah.

http://sunn.bandcamp.com/album/oracle

nah, peak is sustained consistent from whites through moad. more a flowering. like with a manyness of them, stamena, pistii, etc.

Hmm yeah I guess I was thinking of epic bish bosch style nos but I guess it could be a couple of small songs like "darkness" or "rosary" made monolithic

i'm in for the pre-covers project if it gets off the ground.. a perfect outlet for my dodgy Scott Walker vocal impersonation...

This is a thing I was born to be in pre-cover for.

But, as you say, if it turns out to be two long pieces (which I doubt, tbf), someone is going to have to segue them together.

julian cope must have shat his pants with glee when he heard about this

I'm holding out for a 'Picnic of Love'-style acoustic singsong.

So who's starting a pre-covers thread then?

Those only get started when you actually know the titles, right? We have no information at all.

ah true, true.

I'll be practising my haunted baritone while staring in the mirror with the lights out.

Yeah, titles needed first. However, doesn't mean you can't start planning your own masterworks.

He always says he wants to do another record soon when he releases something.

he has been speeding up his release schedule this decade.

Well the icy hand of death approaches and all. (Yes, flippant, but. He's 71 years old and...maybe he just wants to gear up and do more these days. What's guaranteed, in the end.)

Instrumental only, I'm hearing. Pendant then, for sure, but with more hype and coverage than is healthy for any record.

Did anyone else hear his James Bond track? Its on the 'die another day' soundtrack, and its odd inasmuch as he returned to his old Scott 1-4 orchestrations, but its his more modern singing voice.

Yeah I like that song okay. For old style scott vocals from that general time period I'm more into the two tracks he sang for goran bregovic, "man from Reno" and "indecent sacrifice".

I really like 'Man from Reno' as a bizarro-funk version of 'Farmer in the City'

^two of my favourite Scott tracks. The 5 easy pieces box is really essential for the film disc and the lemper tracks.

It's not really a "version" tho, just shares a line or two. None of the pasolini stuff is there

i need to own 5 easy pcs sometime, I only have a lot of this stuff as mp3 (though I was lucky enough to find the japanese version of the lemper CD with both scott tracks in a used bin)

Aw man, if you talk much more about "Five Easy Pieces" it's going to be all I'm listening to for a week. Which isn't a bad thing and all but Scott's world just sucks me in.

I even added some tracks to my digital copy that I felt were unduly left off!

And those Ute Lemper tracks are all that music should aspire to be - weird, compelling, still quite listenable, timeless.

Want t-shirt

http://cdn3.pitchfork.com/news/55864/195f2916.jpg

<3

http://pitchfork.com/news/55864-scott-walker-and-sunn-o-team-for-new-album-soused/

A few weeks ago, 4AD confirmed that mysterious experimental musician Scott Walker and drone metal outfit Sunn O))) would release a collaborative album. Today, the two parties have announced that album. It's called Soused, and it's due out September 22 in Europe and 23 in North America.

According to a press release, Sunn O))) approached Walker about appearing on their excellent 2009 album Monoliths & Dimensions. Walker declined, but in 2013, he approached them with new music he'd written specifically for a collaboration.

Soused is five tracks and 50 minutes long. It was recorded in early 2014 and features Sunn O)))'s Stephen O'Malley, Greg Anderson, and Tos Nieuwenhuizen. It was produced by Walker and his long-time partner Peter Walsh with assistance from musical director Mark Warman. The initial double LP will be pressed on red vinyl.

In February, Sunn O))) released Terrestials, a collaborative album with Ulver. Walker's last album was 2012's Bish Bosch.

Soused (CD/digital):

01 Brando
02 Herod 2014
03 Bull
04 Fetish
05 Lullaby

Soused (LP):

A1 Brando
A2 Bull
B1 Herod 2014
C1 Fetish
C2 Lullaby

*runs in circles like a pomeranian*

Photo makes me outrageously happy.

I know right? Iconic photo

So used

Giddy. GIDDY.

looking cool there lads, original photo

old man in jeans and a baseball cap = embarrassing as fuck m8

bet Fetish is a haunting rumination on man's innate perversion and the lengths he goes to to sublimate his truest desire

more like online trytoohardman

O'Malley and Anderson seem to be morphing into mirror images of each other

Wonder if "Lullaby" is a new take of the song written for Ute Lemper.

And also why if it's double vinyl with three sides, the song sequence is different than on CD. Questions, questions

xpost that would be cool

Beam me up, scott-o

jfc hardman

The more I think about this the more I feel it might just be fucking spectacular.

It would have to be a spectacular fuck up if it were anything less.

will scott walker ever live down this jeans fiasco

Hell! how good you look is all that matters as you get older!

Well, he's not the world's strongest man

Online Hardman takes down another hard target. First Scott Walker's dress sense, now the foibles of contemporary dance: http://thump.vice.com/en_uk/words/eight-things-contemporary-dance-music-needs-to-pack-in

Fuck DJs and fuck anyone impressed by them.

Go OH!

Would fuggin' love to be at one of them festival listening party things for this thing.

wait, Whight Dorke didn't write that article did he?

I've already read this one http://thump.vice.com/en_uk/words/a-bullshitters-guide-to-underground-dance-labels for some reason, more than had my fill tbh. (Dece Zer0 books line though.)

lol, he's on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/scottwalkerreal

I'm sure all this vice bullshit is just hilarious but I doubt it's anything the Scott :O thread need concern itself with

Yeah get this half-arsed Vice clickbait off this thread.

Cover art plus up for pre-order now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UwSveFnWzhI

^^ their first song, can't get the effing thing to embed

well not song, taster

Not wild about the fact that the running order of the tracks is different b/w LP and CD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ETzHuB4Dq0

that comes off more like a michael gira impression tbqh

I am excited. From that sample, it sounds like perfect chemistry.

Hey everyone

http://thequietus.com/articles/16068-sunn-o-scott-walker-soused

^ Preview stream.

Bah, turns out to be just the trailer. I THOUGHT it was too good to be true.

the youtube posted above is not from the album

The 30 Century Man mashup? The one above it seems to be.

that clip is now on the site in the first post of this thread: http://scott-o.com/

aw yeeeeah this is gonna be so good

so awesome

Oooooh nice

This sounds great so far. Makes me think know of early Spandau Ballet for some reason.

would love to hear with your ears for just one day

Maybe not Spandau, but definitely some early-80s new romanticness in the way he layers the vocals so they seem 'shoutier'.

"Gold! (Gold!) The old man's back again!"

It sounds like a mash-up but yes I like it

This sounds better than I expected but worse than my imaginary collaboration between Attila on vocals and Scott on guitar + drill bit + crumhorn + ice block

Could not have given less of a shit when this was announced but that clip's soundin' great

http://www.optipess.com/2014/08/29/dying-wish/

remember this record?

huh, i thought this was gonna me an instrumentals album, not vocals. i like sunnO))) a lot but my interest still jumped up a couple of notches upon hearing that clip.

gonna BE

I don't think the clip is very representative of the whole album.
It kind of reminds me of the first time I heard PIL's Flowers of Romance album: I had the same "this is like opera reinvented" feeling. (it's not like PIL at all btw)

So, uh, this leaked apparently. Haven't downloaded it or anything, but just saw it pop up on a couple blogs today.

First track is a winner. ;-P

this is about as funny as lulu

I made it all the way through the first track and most of the second. Won't be delving any further. The vocals are just way too annoying.

I'm in

dig the starcastle guitar tones on the 'chorus' of "brando"

Vocals are annoying? You must be coming from SunnO fandom.

it is way way better than 'lulu'

it is way way better than 'lulu'

untrue, but i'm not going to convince anybody here

omg "lullaby" IS the ute lemper song!

Pretending Lulu is worth half a shit is a joke that was never funny. Stop it.

there's an all-day listening party for this as part of basilica soundscape. i will pop in and check it out this afternoon.

Pretending Lulu is worth half a shit is a joke that was never funny. Stop it.

lol

After just one listen, I'm loving this. Not as a longtime Walker fan (I'm not, only came to appreciate his greatness in the past few years) but as someone looking for something different. The tension and moodiness of the music contrasted with Scott' voice is just perfect. "Herod 2014" is absolutely epic, creepy and ripe for a grisly murder scene in a film. My early favorite.

Oh and hearing Scott sing the Lempur track... Makes me very happy!

And I find this album more easily... not 'accessible' but easier to enter into than "Bish Bosch". It's more in line with "Tilt".

"bull" is catchy as hell

won't miss the bees!
they're leaping like a river dancer's nuts!

I'm v excited to hear that he is fucking with the Salome legend!

Xp is the line after that the one containing the word "futz"? That made me happy. Like "cacafuego" in bish bosch. I grin from ear to ear when my most excellent words show up. "Bdelloid rotifers join the chitterling circuit" - chitterling! & the music functions in a similar way for me, like "phrasing" and "epizootics" are fucking joyous. It's something that ppl don't tend to acknowledge about his stuff, they'll go on about how obscure & ascetic it all is & maybe throw in a line about the humour but rarely talk about the amount of sheer pleasure to be had from the turns of phrase, the references, the crazy sounds &c

Played this new one twice through, I like it a lot. Brando is gorgeous.

Also in this new one does he sing "could not give toss" at some stage or am I mishearing?

On first listen this is terrific, we're listening in the car and it sounds likes Sabbath but with jokes

fgti as always I will look forward to your thoughts on the arrangements.

this is incredible so far

A question for those already in possession of this: what's the running time of the last track?

i have "lullaby" at 6:34. not sure how 'official' my copy is though

Me too, on both counts.

Release has been pushed back a month. See you in November guys

Boo

My "lullaby" cuts out abruptly, I'm assuming it won't on the real album. I can wait till I've bought it, I think I prefer "lullaby (by-by-by)" anyway

into this even more than the ulver split, and between this and 'bish bosch' i am in awe of wisco's governor

If he's not singing "butts are leaking" on Bull, I'll be mighty disappointed.

he probably is.

speaking of leaking, i can't help feel a bit frustrated that this is available to stream so much earlier than the official release.

How is the bitrate of the leak

How is the buttrate of the leak

loool

It's 320 but as others have noted the last track is a bad rip and cuts off 3 minutes early.

Which is another reason why I always make my own rips. But it's nice to have something to tied me over.

I accurip a donkey on the streets of Galway

I'm still leaning toward not listening to a note of this til it comes out. I especially don't want to experience scottus interruptus on Lullaby...

heard this in Hudson, NY at the Basilica Sound Scape- they had a listening installation set up in a church with a giant, ridiculous audiophile pair of amps and huge speakers and you could go in and listen to the album at top volume in this spooky / austere context.

I thought it sounded fucking great. Both halves of the equation multiply each other: Scott sounds even richer and more lyrical, Sunn0)))'s riffs sound even more evil and intense, and there are all the cool textural experiments of Scott's recent records, but now with more bottom / solidity and threat.

I'm not listening till I get a real copy in my hands. It feels sort of sacrilegious not to. Walker's one of the few artists where I feel like the album is more than just the music which is why I'm disappointed my LP version of the Drift didn't come with a lyric booklet :-(

You must have the 2012 reissue then, the original LP from 2006 (which I have) came with a 12" lyric booklet.

yeah, i even wrote to 4AD and the guy rang me back personally and said he'd try and get one over to me but sadly they'd completely run out.

Really hoping that "the guy" in that post means Scott Walker.

He's not got the hang of that 'recluse' thing, has he?

Really hoping that "the guy" in that post means Scott Walker.

― goth colouring book (anagram), Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's the time operator. And the time operator takes the time to take the time. So obv.

With DL on this btw. Have the download leak sitting on my computer but can't bring myself to put on some lolmp3s. Not for this record.

http://thequietus.com/articles/16412-scott-walker-sunn-o-to-play-live

That url has unfortunately dropped the fairly important question mark from the title of the article.

think scott has been floating the idea that he might play live again since at least climate of hunter-era interviews

It actually seems more plausible for this though, on the face of it

NB if SW plays in NYC and I can't go for any reason, will take to my bed, languish, expire

I'd lay money on them playing either the Barbican or the Festival Hall in London.

He's not actually done live since "Later", and that was fairly "empty studio" right?

He's not played a gig-style gig in front of a live audience since the last ever date of the Walker Brothers Nite Flights tour which was in Birmingham's Night Out club in 1978.

when was the last time scott walker was (publicly) in the USA anyway? i assume he went back on occasion for family reasons, but has he actually toured there since the 1960s?

According to the index of a book I've got, not since a pre-fame residency at Gazzarri's in LA, lasting from January to September 1964… not what I would have guessed at. There's an appearance on a TV show - The Billy Cotton Band Show on August 8, 1967 marked with Scott singing 'My Death' but nothing else live recorded.

wow.

His profile in the US has been pretty much nonexistent, though. Most of his solo stuff up to Tilt wasn't even released here (and Tilt's US release was two years after its UK release).

I knew he lived in England but I still think of him very much as an American personality, which I should stop doing really.

In a 2006 interview with Rob Young he said about America, "I would say if I could compound all the time I've been back there in the last forty years, it might reach to three months."

http://thequietus.com/articles/16411-scott-walker-interview-sunn-o-soused

that's a coincidence. i cracked open my copy of the rest is noise and read that opening paragraph just before i went to bed last night, and it happened to be the same paragraph i read when i got up in the morning.

All I can say is I'm absolutely PSYCHED about this album coming out - and at the right time too - just as I felt my passion for Walker's music finally quelling thanks to one too many plays of Bish Bosch (which I've settled on as the finest of all his records), this comes along, and while I haven't heard it yet just reading the lyrics to Herod 2014 is making me excited.

I like the way he laughs about having to wear earplugs when recording. I wear earplugs when I'm using a practice amp and a drumkit. Wouldn't dream of going anywhere near a member of Sunn O))) without a whole pile of cotton wool.

Can we all just admit that this is the most bad-ass thing possible to say about a record in 2014:

We got my friend Pete The Whipper down from Bristol to record the whips.

Also, I want to believe that Pete the Whipper has his own theme song that's "Nick The Stripper" with appropriately adjusted words. Plays whenever he walks into a room.

Really really great interview. My heart swells with love for this man. On a list of personal heroes that includes Mark Hollis and Tom Verlaine SW is the hyper prolific one who's out there in the field locating the crux.

pete the whipper assuredly a sequel to jean the machine

the analogy isn't perfect but both scott walker and terrence malick have had bewilderingly prolific "comebacks" after decades of near-silence and obscurity. so far walker's batting average is better IMO.

Maybe doran knows the answer to this-- is Brian Gascoigne no longer part of the walker crew?

Jon Lewis: Thanks for the kind words and all I can say is he's not on this album (to the best of my knowledge and according to the detailed credits sheet I got sent).

I'm psyched about the film score news btw. I am already a huge film score nerd and I'm dying to know who he's gonna be working with. I'm assuming it won't have the somewhat odds-and-sods aspect of the Pola X score (at least how Pola X plays on album)

Yeah, I don't want to get my hopes up but I do start thinking, 'Fuck, what if it's Bela Tarr… what if it's Peter Strickland…'

Captivating interview yet again, Doran (loved the intro to the piece as well!).

tarr isn't making films anymore no?

Amateurist: I didn't know about that. We've got an interview with him coming up on the site this month so I presumed he was 'back in the game'. Not read it yet though.

LBI: Cheers!

It could be some wild card thing like bankable actor x is a SW fan, uses his her leverage to get SW brought in as composer.

it's possible tarr is back in the game, but he made a lot of pronouncements around the time of turin horse that he wouldn't be making another film, and would instead devote himself to running his film school

oh, this leaked.

When's the official release? I preordered so long ago.

When people read that we were going to do this record I think what they expected was a lot of drones and some incoherent shit… you know what I mean… some screaming buried in the background.

lol

not so much this one but with other late period scott walker, how much must they cost to make relative to the amount they sell

oh this is just a straight-up late-period scott walker album with xtra guitar. nice.

"just"

"straight up"

also, doran, that was a great interview and write-up (though i have to say i think your interpretation of that benjamin essay is way off). so odd to see scott so talkative and open these days. i discovered him in the 1990s when he wasn't giving interviews and seemed to be cultivating a very strong mystique. which, oddly enough, isn't dispelled in any serious way by his new accessibility.

this album is a real kick. i had no idea it would be this, uh, tuneful (by their standards). also, it's really funny, something that's always been part of scott's work though not acknowledged enough. but this one is funnier than usual.

for someone who, only eight years ago, was the subject of a documentary about what a massive hermit he is, he sure comes across as a warm and balanced character. fab interview, goes without saying

Been a while since I saw the doc but can't recall it saying too much about him being a hermit. As so often in these cases (cf. Jandek) "hermit" is taken to mean "doesn't play live or give interviews". Scott travels on the tube, goes to the cinema &c.

Scott is like Kubrick - only gives interviews etc when he's got new product to promote. When you have a looong gap between albs, that means you vanish from the public eye and get accused of being a hermit.

Not sure that's the only reason we haven't heard from Kubrick of late

30th Century Man definitely painted him out as a recluse and a 'difficult' character - shutting himself away in a marshland hut, cap pulled firmly down over his eyes, rarely talking to people during studio sessions, deliberately removing himself from the public eye on more than one occasion etc... Obviously there's some truth to it, but 30CM had me believing for a long time that he was this utter enigma and highly unapproachable. Since Bish Bosch that's been completely disproven it seems.

That film is directed a certain way but Scott himself comes across as entirely affable and open, as he has in pretty much every interview since tilt?

This still rules. It's funny that he brings up the rhyming, I've often thought that a big unmentioned factor in why tilt comes over as more conventional than the two that followed is that most of the lyrics rhyme. I don't know that this is more "accessible" than climate of hunter as that quietus piece contends, but I have a hard time thinking of things in those terms, like who cares it's all accessible really

Another funny thing is that in all the interviews from the last one he talks about using less bass (and singing in a higher register) because bass tones & baritone voices act as a soporific, so it was amusing when he was all "hey guys I'm in sunn o now", maybe that's why everyone's saying this is more poppy

would be fun to spy scott in a tube

amateurist: Thanks. I guess any attempt to sum up Frankfurt School theory in a snappy single clause sentence is a fool's errand.

Is the hat because he's a paid-up member of the Steve Reich League of Bald-Headed Men?

He took his hat off when I first met him and he has some hair left up top. Not a thick mane like in his youth but then he is in his 70s.

Didn't Scott appear in a mid-80s UK tv ad for orange juice or something?

(I tried looking it up on youtube, but "Scott Walker commercial" just brings up campaign ads for that shitbag governor)

Yeah, Britvic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2EoduCLKYY

listening "party" in London next Tuesday

i was trying to find details of that but coudln't find them in the 0.7 seconds i spent looking between phonecalls at work.

Cool, that's the ad, thanks!

xp

bit of publicity for climate of hunter, why not.

i got in pretty quickly with my listening party rsvp, so here's hoping.

Ben Ratliff has a piece in the NY Times today. Not as good as Doran's but some valuable bits. Ratliff, in my view, seriously underestimates the animal pleasurability of Tilt and its successors in his desire to highlight the friendly mien of the new one.

I'm sayin

i got Tilt when it came out as soon as I could import it and yeah I was not expecting its sound but i was also not like "whoa how difficult" -- structurally yes, but the sound of it was pretty luxurious to me right away. just a new, surprising and stunning kind of luxury.

yeah finding it hard to believe that ppl who've been listening to scott's late stuff for a couple of decades by now really find this stuff so ~forbidding~

not trying to downplay anything, the songs are amazing and unusual, I've come to expect that along with cool earwormy sounds and phrases and jokes and awesome singing and a degree of lyrical opacity that is not at all a barrier to entry

I haven't listened to the leak, hung up about it for some reason. But the printed lyrics in the Quietus piece from "Herod" hark back to late 60s Scott for me, almost. Until it gets to that fucking breech birth verse and then we're back in the loving care of The Electrician and his ilk.

the drone in "brando" reminds me a bit of the bass note in "the electrician" actually

I don't really have any clue what happens at "listening parties" but I like the idea of a bunch of people who've been listening to a leak for weeks attending a preview & pretending not to have heard it before. I'd be tempted to start singing along

Tbf it looks like they play it on a really nice big rig that you or I would never own

no I can see why people go, I just can't really picture what they do when they get there.

download the 320 onto their iphones and play it on speaker just out of sync with the playback

tbh the flac of this has not leaked yet which might be one reason people will go

Viscerally Piercing the Semantic Mist (for completion of this thread, and bonus points for the quite frankly exquisite headline)

I only ever went to one listening party and it was a small room horribly crammed with people.

Oddly I found Drift to be his most accessible album, because at first listen I thought it might be a lot more difficult.

I've gone through find great the Drift terrifying to being just fine with it and more recently back to finding it terrifying. Cue has kind of overtaken the Escape for frighteningness

Doran, excellent interview. I really enjoyed it.

What are the writing credits on this? Is it all SW?

yes a good interview, scott walker never less than engaging and dignified as hell

On first listen this sounds very much like a new Scott Walker album, with Sunn O))) as a backing band, delivering their heavy feedback sound. The slashing whips, the broody atmosphere, the shrieking guitar sounds, and Herod 2014 to boot, tying it all together: that's all Walker, it sounds like a logical progression from Bisch Bosch.

I think it is magnificent, but one would think that rather easily being so in love with Walker's sound. I'd love to read similarly devised interviews as Doran's about the record with O'Malley and consorts now, to hear more about their input and ideas about what they brought to the table.

i remember that stephen thomas erlewine or somebody wrote a review of "tilt" on AMG that called it "the most difficult album ever made" or something which is the kind of thing you would write about "tilt" if you were sixteen years old.

the music is very non-generic (i mean it's hard to affix to a particular genre) and in that sense can present some initial difficulties but i dunno. i think folks have overemphasized the challenges of scott's later music. "the drift" is probably the most user unfriendly one IMO.

I think it's just the contrast in styles from his early work, and this intimidates some listeners who aren't that into anything avant garde. I really don't think the later era is much less accessible than the early albums. I think I got Tilt when I was 18 or 19 and I was fascinated by its reputation and I became a huge fan on the basis of that.
I think I was also surprised that Swans were way more accessible than I imagined from first listen.

I guess it probably made a difference that I was attracted to dark and extreme music and a lot of music fans won't have that enthusiasm to be so receptive.

woooo no you better than them big man

Yeah was gonna say there's some good hardmanning going on itt.

I was trying not to sound like my preferences made me a better listener, just talking about what we're predisposed to welcome. Because there is just loads of stuff I really don't get and I'm totally lost when it comes to a lot of noise music, so it taken me by surprise when I found something easy that had a reputation for difficulty.
Back then extremity for its own sake had more appeal and I wonder if that would make some stuff easier or more difficult now.

and now we've found a new way not to sound like we think we're better listeners

i have to admit i find swans really abrasive and haven't found a way "in" to them yet; is there an album i should be starting with?

http://eil.com/images/main/The+Dooleys+-+The+Very+Best+Of+-+CD+ALBUM-337651.jpg

People, people...

Couldn't get into Masonna, Merzbow, Mingus, Pig Destroyer, Steve Reich, Messiaen's Turangalila, Spiritulised's Ladies & Gentlemen, Body Lovers, Swans- My Father & The Seer (which really bothered me because I felt very left out), The Clash, most of a Bauhaus album, Darkthrone, some Sunn 0))) (fingers crossed for the future), Negura Bunget, Venom.

Don't get the majority of art house films.

So it was a pleasant surprise to get into Scott Walker and most of Swans easily.

you don't have to defend yourself. what you are saying is perfectly reasonable and clear.

more like ShitO)))))

How could one possibly not "get into" Spiritualized's "Ladies & Gents"? What is there to get? And why is Spiritualized even mentioned in a Scott O))) thread?

Is this the ugly face of nu-ILM?

xxp

i can totally imagine SW using "wind yer neck in" in a song.

How could one possibly not "get into" Spiritualized's "Ladies & Gents"? What is there to get? And why is Spiritualized even mentioned in a Scott O))) thread?

Is this the ugly face of nu-ILM?

xxp

― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:24

I quite liked the last track but I was kind of distressed because loads of people loved it at the time and I just didn't understand it.

It's a great album, start to finish, I just have difficulty comprehending that album being mentioned in a thread about Scott O))). But all the best to you man. Live and learn and discover etc.

most accessible swans song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oeZmWUl8dM

Yeah well I get arthouse films, sorry. I can enjoy them cause I've watched them for years and I'm familiar with the different set of conventions involved, I think it would be pathetically self-congratulatory if I were still going around banging on about how ~challenging~ it all is. If that's hardmanning fine

again, he's been making albums in this vein since 1995, I always just wonder why these goths can't just say they like it

just a bit of funn O))) let's be cool

I like latter Scott partly because I find it challenging. It's not exactly Kenny G is it? Even Tilt, I mean, Farmer in the City is its own kind of harrowing and I don't find the Cockfighter relaxing to listen to. It's fantastic art music but you can see why a lot of people don't like it.

It's not exactly Kenny G is it?

No but neither is anything

not what you'd call "dinner party music"/one for the music buffs/predicting a solid &c

In some ways, the 60s Scott albums are as 'difficult' as Tilt etc for some modern listeners because they code as MOR, with all the negative connotations of blandness, show business, non-rock action that that entails.

Kenny G!

Yeah, but that means you have to listen.

There is a whole chunk of "This could be Stuart Gilles" amongst the sixties stuff, but keep the Scott penned stuff and the Brel stuff and you will be all right.

stuff

Keep it all & throw out your bs hangups about show biz non rock action imo

would be fun to hear scott o))) in st. john's

I heard the Brel version of Jackie for the first time the other day and honestly, if you can understand the language it's a very amusing take. The Walker version is a brilliant translation but some of the nuances of the French language are just as, if not more, hilarious.

It's not like everyone gets all the popular stuff. Lots of people don't understand lots of pop music. Not everyone gets Beatles.

I said I don't get most art house films (mostly realistic stuff, I like surreal arthouse) but I also don't get James Bond films.

More than anything the appeal of first person shooter videogames like Call Of Duty is the most baffling mystery.

kenny G)))

Really looking forward to this based on the Quietus interview.

In some ways, the 60s Scott albums are as 'difficult' as Tilt etc for some modern listeners because they code as MOR, with all the negative connotations of blandness, show business, non-rock action that that entails.

definitely true for me. My introduction to Scott Walker was Tilt and I quickly grew to love that album. I then decided to go back and check out his early albums and could not get into them for a long time.

In retrospect, I think the mistake I made was going from Tilt all the way back to his first album. I should have worked my way backwards from Tilt.

For me, words like "difficult" and "challenging" never seemed right in describing music or images. Straining and putting effort into understanding something always backfired on me. I think I probably didn't get into a lot of stuff in my early teens was because I worried too much and got frustrated.

I don't think I've ever got into an album and thought "whoah that was tough", it was always just a case of listening to it enough times, which isn't difficult unless it really tries your patience. But some music you just never get.

I've never heard of "hardmanning" in this context, makes me think of some big bald muscular guy saying "I'm a huge fan of Scott Walker and neo realist films; you may have seen me in an episode of Danny Dyer Meets Britain's Hardest Bastards".

I guess this is more about amateurist's view that calling Tilt 'difficult' is something a sixteen year old would say. Obv, the semantics of 'difficult' and even 'challenging' are open to long and boring debate, and it's entirely subjective. but it's not 'easy' listening. There are quite clear barriers here.

i don't have a problem with using the word 'challenging' to describe a piece of music any more than i would have trouble calling a book 'challenging'. 'Difficult', I can see, has a suggestion that the artist is being wilfully awkward or unlikeable, so i can see why there's an issue with this word.

i should be more clear about what I said before. I totally agree that Walker mk II is challenging and unsettling music, in fact I cannot think of any active recording artist who can evoke pain and desperation and a terrible immanence and dislocation as well as him; and I think he has made it pretty plain in interviews that he does make it wilfully 'difficult' at times when he feels a piece is going down too easy. but, for me, it is also a deeply accommodating music, like, the first time I listened to Tilt there were a lot of things that invited me right in even while other things were throwing darts at me.

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Yeah let's get back on topic!

this is pretty fucking awesome

Right?

i like all kinds of putatively 'difficult' music and film etc. but i guess the times i've listened to swans stuff (mostly the '80s stuff) it sounded almost cartoonishly abrasive and unrewarding. but so many people that i respect like them a lot so i've been meaning to try to find another way "in" to their oeuvre. so, srsly, what album(s) should i start with?

but yeah anyway this album seems like an instant classic

The last two Swans albums are great ways in. The current one is dead accessible. It's groovy!

children of god, every time

which is v abrasive in places but also often surprisingly pretty and seductive

For some reason Swans seemed so stupid to me during their phase one era and I guess I've given them short shrift ever since. Which is dumb, I should try to snap out of it.

fwiw all the talk of 'difficult' needs context. it's weird what can be difficult to people. when i was in high school i was listening to some of the free jazz/avant-garde stuff happening in chicago (ken vandermark etc.) and found nine inch nails (which a lot of my friends were listening to) really awful and abrasive. i also inexplicably found chrissie hynde's voice to be like nails on a chalkboard. but i took almost immediately to scott walker, having discovered both "tilt" and his late '60s stuff at about the same time (though for some reason i got particularly attached to 'climate of hunter,' and i still love that album as a kind of queasy mid-way point between MOR and his later outre stuff).

nowadays i love all of these things (though i guess jazz is still much closer to my heart).

re swans i've always been a little wary of stuff that seems to try really hard to be shocking, which may not be a fair description of swans but that's something i took away from their earlier stuff. i will try the aforementioned LPs and see what i think!

i also had a weird relationship with the "flat" singing voices of a lot of freestyle in the '80s. i loved it as a kid growing up, then in high school and college could barely stand to listen to it (I remember yelling a friend to turn off the car radio when some freestyle cover of a cyndi lauper song came on), but more recently can't understand why i ever hated it.

this is the least interesting detour

anyway, i'm really off topic, sorry.

scott walker

haha xpost

wanna hear earth record with david sylvian now

though for some reason i got particularly attached to 'climate of hunter,' and i still love that album as a kind of queasy mid-way point between MOR and his later outre stuff

i kind of think climate of hunter is his most "difficult" for this very reason

hmmm, that's an interesting thought

i like how it occasionally sounds like a oddball MOR record (billy ocean backing vocals, sizzling guitar licks and all)

though it pointedly has very very few drum fills

climate of hunter is actually a pretty catchy album ("...run out of recognize...")! and there are parts of tilt i find myself singing in the shower etc. ("can't go by a man from Vigo..."). I have a harder time conjuring up hooks from the last two records.

you can /almost/ hear some of "climate" sung and arranged in Scott's earlier mode: "The shadow of the son made the son a shadow" etc.

i think that one might actually have been released as a single btw

My favorite goose pimple moment on that record:
And the ceiling is rising and falling...

I'd literally loose a couple of toes to hear an album recorded by Antony Hegarty and Sunn O))).

I guess this is more about amateurist's view that calling Tilt 'difficult' is something a sixteen year old would say.

that's not what i wrote. i agree that "tilt" is difficult.

the review i was paraphrasing said something like "tilt is the most difficult album ever made"

it was the "...album ever made" part that seemed not just hyperbolic but juvenile

the "difficult" part i agree with

it's so easy to misread people online, isn't it...

...and i must be getting sloppy with my online communication b/c it seems to be happening more and more to me recently.

FWIW the AMG review that I was paraphrasing seems to have been replaced. i remember, back in the early 2000s, there was a rather short and uncomprehending review of tilt that had the "most difficult album ever made" line in it. I think it was written by stephen thomas erlewine. it's been replaced with a longer and more sympathetic review.

apologies for misunderstanding you amateurist

oh, it's no problem. i think i'm getting bad at communicating, or i just use a shorthand that nobody else can understand or something.

im going to church tonite

wish i had gone but i'm feeling rather lurgee-ish atm.

This is the film he's scoring, starring Robert pattinson & Stacey Martin

http://www.thechildhoodofaleader-film.com/2014/10/13/scott-walker-will-compose-score-childhood-of-a-leader/

When I saw it was a "Robert Pattinson movie" I was really, really hoping it was the new Herzog.

the playback was pretty great with a super dooper soundsystem

in the middle a homeless woman who had been outside when people were queuing and asking what was the event appeared out of the gloom at the front unannounced and began an interpretive dance for quite a while unmolested before a man arrived to ask her to leave but she didn't seem keen and then two men arrived and began to manhandle her out and she dropped to the floor to resist and then people started booing and the two men backed sheepishly away and she danced a while longer before sitting down on the step during an extended section of variegated drone until she got bored and put her coats back on and left

o_O

"Please stop - this music is NOT for dancing to"

NO GROOVING

Oooh, this is good stuff. Scott's trying a bunch of different vocal techniques -- it sounds like he's very much in control of his instrument these days.

yeah he's lucky his voice has retained its dynamism. imagine if scott's voice was like leonard cohen's croak.

i love this record

what are they saying in that one hook? "barmond binkie" or something. i can't listen to it at work to check.

in which track?

the one where he repeats a similar phrase 100x

maybe he's saying "bunghole binkie"

or "bar tab binkie"

"Bump the beaky" on Bull.

i hear "both are peaking" or "bumf or beaking"

in other words, i dunno.

ah ok xpost.

anyway, that part of the song is catchy

I've had the lyric sheet for about three months now and that bit still makes me go, 'Eh?'

Well, that and about 30% of it.

'Beaky' is the cute name I call my other half - a corruption of 'vicky' fwiw. So I haven't heard the album yet and won't get to until next week but already it's incredible that this is happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUMipyQPKA

Pretty smug that I correctly identified "bump the beaky" when cloth-eared would-be internet comedians were suggesting it sounded remotely like "fuck the bacon" or "butts are leaking"

Re voice he's said that he keeps it in fine condition by basically never taking it out of its case until just before recording, when he will warm up by singing a blues or something. I think the different vibrato-free voices he employs here - the shouty one and the idk snotty? one he uses in the "whip-poor-will" bits, both of which made an appearance on "zercon" - are another example of Scott's whole keep it interesting/keep the listener on her toes deal, like not using bass or letting the music get too nice

Btw how funny is "whip-poor-will (wh-tssh! wh-tssh!)"? I love how shameless he is with the wordplay/sound matching sometimes

looking cool there lads, original photo

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old man in jeans and a baseball cap = embarrassing as fuck m8

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bet Fetish is a haunting rumination on man's innate perversion and the lengths he goes to to sublimate his truest desire

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no cow sacred enough to escape wd's withering gaze

hardman
on the scott thread
keeps withering
and withering

A+

lol

!

Well played

Hey this came out today. I heard it. It's decent. Maybe not quite the world building of the Drift or Bish Bosch, quite a few familiar ideas in here too, but it's Scott and it's Sunn O))) so it's obviously ace. Feels like a more naked version of the extent Scott sound. I'm more aware of what is actually going on than before.

Sounds almost exactly as I had anticipated. Enjoyed the 30 minutes I listened to on the walk to work this morning, being buffeted by winds.

Also I thought it sounded as if he was singing about Balfour Beaty.

Oh the wide tandoori...

Brando's hook sounds just like Sweet Child O Mine.

..Maybe not quite the world building of the Drift or Bish Bosch..

I have had Soused for 5 days and have spun it more times than I listened to Bish Bosch in 5 weeks after buying it. I prefer it.

Holy crap. This is as good as I accidentally imagined it would be for a second when I heard about it, before sanity kicked in and I lowered my expectations.

excellent post

The most surprising thing on this album are its first opening seconds. And yeah it sounds like GnR.

It's really good, though Lullaby sent me back to Ute Lemper's version where, just for the briefest moment, she sounds like Billy Mackenzie.

Which release is the UL version on?

It's on the Japanese edition of her Punishing Kiss album.

Also included in the Five Easy Pieces boxset, which they were practically giving away (it was a bit battered) in HMV about five years ago.

I'll use my time machine.

Or I'll just Dropbox it to you, seeing as it's so difficult to find...

(It'll have to be tonight as I have an iPhone and, naturally, I can't get anything off that).

Lemper version is so definitive I think of this one as a cover (an excellent one). It's interesting that Scott took out the "fa la la" sections, song feels quite different without them

It's cool Michael, but thanks. I do have a rip of that already :-)

lou barlow does not like sunn o)))

i hope sunn o))) names their next album 'lou barlow' and it's just one chord played for sixty minutes with the lyric 'lou barlow' intoned at a glacial pace over the whole running time.

more like sebadohn't amirite

BarlO)))

this is a good listen. certainly more listenable than Bisch Bosch and the Drift; it has a nice ominous cozy feel to it. Perfect for a dreadful autumn.

Walker currently locked in a basement with SunnO))), playing a three-hour long version of Dinosaur Jr:'s "Don't" whilst weeping.

"synthesized pre-set whip-cracks"

Oh, Lou. Scott has a whip man. From Bristol. Everyone knows that.

Well Lou's always had a reputation for being a miserable git.

The other factual error in there is he gets the lyrics to his 'favorite scott walker song' wrong (the string tied to the underwear is plastic palace people not montague terrace)

Online hardman's "takedown" is more deserving of our attention than this wasteman

lou was saying plastic palace people is ~montague terrace era~ but sort of a strange way to tag a scott ~era~ and smacks of half-assed attempt to appear to have interest/investment

RIP perfectly respectable melodic indie bands that sound good on laptop speakers

responses to this album are making it really easy to decide whose musical opinions i can safely ignore from now on

http://www.stereogum.com/1713730/scott-walker-sunn-o-brando-video/video/

Not really heard this yet and while I don't find the music of SunnO))) particularly interesting, "this sounded like shit on my computer speakers" is such a dumb fucking criticism.

God that Lou Barlow piece is one of the least convincing arguments I've ever read. Scott has made a Christmas album - Bish Bosch.

Comparing Sunn O))) to a load of 80s proto-grunge and industrial is getting it wrong too.

sunn o))) sound good on laptop speakers

No results found for "lube arlow"

― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:54 (2 years ago)

someone on

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has now posted this phrase

No results found for "lou barsehole"

oh shit wrong thread sorry guys ;_;

Stanm, I thought you had nicked my GaryBarlO))) joke, I see now it isn't so.

well, maybe a bit..

didn't mean to drag this esteemed thread down to my wretched level xp

Yeah, it was recycling. xpost

This was linked upthread but here's an embed for your viewing convenience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_NIop72vis

hmmm... not sure if that video was interesting or kind of boring at 9.30mins. Not a patch on the Epizootics vid.

Am I wrong in hearing "They're taking her children away" from Lou Reed's "The Kids" echoed in "Herod 2014"'s "She's hidden her babies away"?

There's a bit during Bull (I think) that reminds me so much of Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This) by The Eurythmics it's unreal.

Similar to my initial reaction to the Bull teaser...

This sounds great so far. Makes me think know of early Spandau Ballet for some reason.

― Scary Darey (dog latin), Friday, August 22, 2014 12:08 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's definitely a new romantic vibe to that track.

I've been playing this album a LOT this week. Sounds (feels, rather :-) even better in the car than on my stereo at home. It's a really fun album in that it's fun to sing along with Scott and fun to shred with the (lead) guitarists.

One of the maddest experiences was when my friend and I were driving down a country road to Norfolk on a dark January night after Christmas listening to Epizootics, when a lorry overtook us at full speed. Something like a bag full of flour or some sort of dusty substance on the back of the truck burst and sent this blinding cloud flying all over the road. Definitely freaked me out. I'm surprised we didn't slow down or stop, but I think we were too scared.

Am I wrong in hearing "They're taking her children away" from Lou Reed's "The Kids" echoed in "Herod 2014"'s "She's hidden her babies away"?

― with hidden noise, Friday, October 24, 2014 6:09 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I doubt it was intentional but I thought the exact same thing

Stephen F. O'Malley ‏@IdeologicOrgan 1 minute ago

It's great to see Mr. Lou Barlow didn't loose any of his pathetic 90s indy rock smugness.

neither of them trolls very well

I was finding this largely tedious until 'Bull' kicked in and now I love it.

it sounds totally challopsy to say this is more "pop" than anything either of them have done recently but... it's kinda true!

Yep, its relatively easy to listen to. Didn't stop the odd looks from my girlfriend the first time I played it though.

haha women right

j/k

So this made me look to see if the album charted in the UK - number 30 after the first week of release just behind Coldplay and Neil Diamond.

I didn't know there was a Coldplay/Diamond collab!

Much as I appreciate this new one, it's sent me back to listening to Bish Bosch (lol, as if I ever stopped) and I'm starting to think it's testament to how great that last album was that this new one is getting so much good attention. I really think stuff like Zercon and Epizootics are his absolute peak.

I often think that certain albums by some artists suffer/benefit from reputational hangover, records getting the praise that their immediate predecessors should have got.

Yeah, this definitely happens. I know this is probably a challops, but I see Scott 3 as the weak link in the quadrilogy. Sometimes wonder if the lack of punchier, wittier songs in favour of sleepier, more ponderous efforts are responsible for Scott 4 selling so badly. Was it his perceived 'New Jersey' at the time?

I don't think so, "Songs from his TV series" still made the charts.

My theory has always been that he was releasing too many albums in too short a time (Scott 3, TV series, Scott 4 all in 1969)

Yes, also 4 originally released under the engel name no?

There is that, but I would have thought people would work that little bit out.

Yes, though too much may have been made of that, seeing as the cover is a huge picture of him and the words "SCOTT 4". It clearly wasn't the new Englebert Humperdinck record.

Haha fair point

Wasn't it pretty normal for acts to release up to 3 records in a year back then? Or was 'product demand' slowing down by the late sixties? I know the Beach Boys were expected to deliver tonnes of stuff all the time, hence all the filler albums.

Yeah, but check the album charts for the Beach Boys, see how many charted. Also, that was 1962 or thereabouts.

That new video is amazing

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2014/02/catherine-robbe-grillet-french-dominatrix#

In her recent biographical book Alain, she writes that while finding the Sadean theater outlined—along with the offer of being remunerated—“rather agreeable,” she was disappointed in an imperfect master who deigned to offer “mercy” to his “victim.” “The very notion of a contract ran contrary to my erotic fantasy wherein the Master, once elected, requires no permission whatsoever from the woman who has agreed to submit herself to him.”

And so we arrive at the heart of the matter: Robbe-Grillet’s “little girl” wife was, it appears, a dominant from the start, from her first sneer at the nuns, at Catholicism (she is not a believer), at convention, from her keeping of multiple simultaneous lovers, and now here with her grand seigneur.

So, I ask Madame, how can you tell who is really the submissive and who is really the dominant in any given relationship? Appearances are so often deceptive. Her answer cuts to the quick. “The one whose need is the greatest is the submissive.”

i think product definitely was slowing in late 60s at least in the world of pop and rock. even beach boys were down to 1 or 2 new LPs per year by 68/69. (though their greatest hits packages were the ones that charted in that era)

Yeah, this definitely happens. I know this is probably a challops, but I see Scott 3 as the weak link in the quadrilogy. Sometimes wonder if the lack of punchier, wittier songs in favour of sleepier, more ponderous efforts are responsible for Scott 4 selling so badly. Was it his perceived 'New Jersey' at the time?

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Scott 3 is definitely the least likeable in the quadrilogy. Maybe people were indeed so bored by it that they punished Scott 4 in return.

Really?

Other peopl reckon Scott 3 is better than 4. Possibly because they got too used to 4, and 3 is much like it.

I don't think "Till the band come in" is that bad anyway.

I thought it was just me who had never really connected with 3.

3 is probably my favorite after 4, and "If You Go Away" is easily in my top 5 Scott songs.

Scott 3 is fantastic! It's Raining Today, Copenhagen, Two Weeks.., If You Go Away. Stone cold classics ppl.

"30 century man" basically invented Julian Cope

Scott 3 is the best of the 60s albums, you guys are completely fucking nuts.

I'm going to play this really loud tonight while I am handing out candy

but it's not raining today.

I have trouble remembering which track was on which album, they all blend together in my memory. Like 4 chapters of the same album. I probably liked the second or third the best (of those four).

I always thought I was in a tiny minority thinking Scott 3 was better than Scott 4. But it would appear not!

Hey hey hey! Don't get me wrong, I actually think Scott 3 and Scott 4 are the best ones but people coming from the first two might have found it too melancholic. There was also a lot happening musically at the end of the 60's so maybe people just lost interest in his style. A couple of more 'groovy' songs like '30 century man' might have been easier to sell.

I always preferred the French version of 'If you go Away'. The acoustic jangle of 30th Century Man always stuck out. Sounds more like a Dylan song that somehow snuck in there. A lot of the rest drifts by unremarkably for me.

But I do like 'Sons of' and I also love 'It's Raining Today' though. The quintessential 'Scott' ballad.

Rosemary makes me swoon. so beautiful.

Didn't expect this to be so showtuney. I love it!

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I keep hearing tracks on the radio that are awesome that turn out to be tracks from this album.

they play this on the radio?

was gonna say.

college radio --- yes.

saw childhood of a leader last night. really good and of course the score helps. is there a thread for it?

Scott Walker joins Sia to soundtrack Natalie Portman film Vox Lux

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/aug/22/scott-walker-joins-sia-to-score-vox-lux-natalie-portman

It dawns on me around this time each year that we'll never hear a new Scott Walker album again. And no doubt we won't get any sort of outtakes or lost recordings gubbins either cos he wasn't that kind of artist. And this is a deep deep shame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwm5V7hN11M