~~~ 15 YEARS OF ILM POLL!!! ~~~ (Metal & Heavy Rock [+ related sub-genres] Edition) VOTING & DISCUSSION THREAD. ALL ILXORS WELCOME TO PARTICPATE!! Voting Ends 11.59pm UK Time September 9 2016 .

And finally, after several months nominations, seandalai and I can present you the voting & discussion thread.

I'm hoping as it's a lifetime of ILM poll we might get all of ILM participating not just the metal fans only crowd. It's a great chance to check out some great music you may be unaware of and please post in the thread asking for what kind of metal you would be interested in hearing and everyone will be happy to recommend you something.

This is not an extreme metal only poll. It covers all metal and heavy rock released 2000-2015 in ILM's lifetime. Many of which has appeared in the EOY Metal polls and are not very metal but is music made by metallers or loved by metal fans. Metal is a broad church and we hope to show this to ILM in general.

Even if you don't intend to vote please feel free join in discussions, but the more who listen to as much as they can and vote too the better.

All instructions are on the VOTING FORM

But here they are too
Please copy/paste your votes directly from the nominations list:

I will post the albums nominated below because I know people at work or tablet/phones cant always access links but please copy & paste from the link as requested by seandalai.

ALSO before you vote or while making up your longlists,

ALWAYS check the link because there's always someone who claims they didn't see the nominations list over the last 6 months and wants something added.... So if anything is missing It can be added.

As usual the ballot will be up to a MAXIMUM of 100 albums with no minimum. Vote for any number of albums between 1 & 100 as you can.

Now, we are doing something a bit different for the top ten.

We are weighting the top 10 with extra points compared to the rest. The idea is that your top 10 will be your actual personal favourite top 10 albums NOT the ones you think will win or place or that you think you should vote for because they are in the canon or sold the most.

We want you to pick your favourites in the top 10 REGARDLESS of whether you think it will place or not. Please do not do TACTICAL voting, in the top 10 at least. The extra weighting is to encourage this. It will help your lesser known faves place/place higher, so please consider this when voting, but of course at the end of the day you can vote as you want to. This isn't a rule, it's just a suggestion. The most important thing is you vote.

It will be a large rollout as usual so please try and do as many on your ballot as you can. If more fill out the top 100, the better it will be in the overall results.

That is why we are having an extended "study" period as always requested by Drugs A Money,Emil.y etc so everyone can listen to as much as they can and vote for as many as they can.
You have until September 9 to vote so no need to actually vote just now.
I suggest you use the time to make a long/short list and listen to albums on it to decide placings but also use it to check out albums that you haven't heard. I'd hope everyone on the thread will recommend albums people need to hear.

BOOSTING really works in these polls.

I'm hoping this will encourage non-regular voters or casual metal fans to take part and discover the really good albums in ILM's lifetime.

There is a collaborative spotify playlist for anyone to add albums they nominated to. So please use it and add albums (from the nominations list only) that are missing from it.
spotify:user:pfunkboy:playlist:4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy
or
https://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy

Happy Voting and please enjoy the discussions and hopefully everyone will discover some new to them music from such a vast genre!

Nominations List as of 17 July. Please refer to the actual pastebin link before voting incase more albums have been added.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104IXKSHN1uWxe3MRFy4R5tHEOxLriKoBRKcjCNu_zus/edit?usp=sharing

Any questions on weighting or anything data specific please ask seandalai

Also when you vote, can you please post here saying so we can check your ballot has indeed made it? Thanks.

What sub-genres have we seen being invented since ILM began?

Post-Metal
Djent
Drone Metal?

and the rise of doom metal especially from a real cult thing to the covers of The Wire, Terrorizer, Decibel etc

anything else?

Kerr will you request that a mod add 'RIP Alan Vega' to the thread title

Coming up with a real top 10 is going to be very difficult.

ColdWorld - Melancholie 2
ColdWorld – Melancholie²

Are the same album nominated twice. The 'squared' one is the proper formatting.

The Occult Rock revival is definitely something that happened within the last 15 years.

You have up to 100 votes on your ballot, Frobisher.

Or do you mean this bit?

We are weighting the top 10 with extra points compared to the rest. The idea is that your top 10 will be your actual personal favourite top 10 albums NOT the ones you think will win or place or that you think you should vote for because they are in the canon or sold the most.

We want you to pick your favourites in the top 10 REGARDLESS of whether you think it will place or not. Please do not do TACTICAL voting, in the top 10 at least. The extra weighting is to encourage this. It will help your lesser known faves place/place higher, so please consider this when voting, but of course at the end of the day you can vote as you want to. This isn't a rule, it's just a suggestion. The most important thing is you vote.

It will be a large rollout as usual so please try and do as many on your ballot as you can. If more fill out the 100 options on your ballot , the better it will be in the overall results.

Its just to encourage votes for people's real top 10 faves rather than the "no point in voting for this high because it wont place high"

If your top 10 is indeed the same top 10 as the 'canon' then that's fine. But fr many it wont be and we want to encourage votes in the top 10 for the real personal faves not what people think it should be or whatever.

and everyone has about 2 months to listen to albums before deciding. Nobody need vote now, i just suggest that everyone start listening and making their longlist right away and spend the time working out their ballot over the next month or so

Right, its very hard to list my favorite albums of the past 15 years in a structured way, deciding what bests something else, etc.

Start by listening to Dopesmoker if for some weird reason you haven't heard it!

there is a mixed ballot option so you can weight as much or as little as you want then have the rest of the 100 will get equal amount of points (ask seandalai to explain)

but i hope everyone will at least weight the top 10.

plus the more people who vote ranking in order the less likely ties are to appear.

if you rank from 1-100 the #100 will still get 12 points so it is well worth ranking all the way to 100.

I'll be the first with a last-minute nomination, Seandalai:

The Blood Brothers - Crimes

Crimes is way better than Burn Piano Island Burn (which is also fantastic). If I can nominate it, it's going to be my #2 or so.

I wasn't really focused during the nominations, sorry. :(

oh come on, all the Liturgy albums but Liturgy - Aesthetics got nominated? Weird!

I don't care I'm voting for :
Liturgy - Aesthetica

Can I request we please add Elder - Lore to the nominations?

Seandelai will need to do it as I have no access to pastebin but where were you guys during the nominations? they started months ago :)

just to be clear you can vote for up to 100 albums.

The more you vote for the better

What sub-genres have we seen being invented since ILM began?

Post-Metal
Djent
Drone Metal?

and the rise of doom metal especially from a real cult thing to the covers of The Wire, Terrorizer, Decibel etc

anything else?

The Occult Rock revival is definitely something that happened within the last 15 years.

― Frobisher, Sunday, 17 July 2016 20:58 (2 hours ago)

Well,like Doom, I think it was always around, no? But certainly has gotten a lot of underground coverage. Nothings crossed over yet.

I saw Meliora in a Best Buy display rack, I'd count that as crossing over, wouldn't you?

This is exciting. Thanks guys.

Isnt shoegaze metal like Deafheaven relatively new?

haha only if it sold lots! Which it hasn't.

I imagine Five Finger Death Punch,soulfly and Devildriver sell way more though I doubt they sell a million copies either but that's where mainstream metal is these days (shite and noone likes it compared to previous decades)

xxpost to tom

Just saying, I've never seen Darkthrone in a Best Buy display rack.

Crossing over in metal is relative, I guess?

I see a Hellacopters album on the list! Good band i havent heard them in ages

shoegaze metal or blackgaze I suppose is new thanks to Alcest but it's still kinda an offshoot of post black metal, which obviously is an offshoot of black metal and post metal.

metal bands discovering my bloody valentine 20 years after the rest of us basically. But taking it shoegaze somewhere new I guess until they then just started making actual shoegaze without the metal

If anyones wanting a tip for albums to check out i suggest

Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain
Warning - Watching From a Distance
Aluk Todolo - Occult Rock
Weakling - Dead as Dreams
Isis - Oceanic/Panopticon (the latter is shoegazier for those into that)
Absu - Tara

for 'poppier' stuff

Torche
Ghost
Uncle Acid
Alcest

Rate Your Music has a best albums 2000-2010 list here
http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Best-Metal-Albums-2000-10

and 2000-16 so just ignore the 2016 albums

http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Best-Metal-Albums-2000-16

They should at least prove a guide for what to listen to but dig deep too if you can.

If you are a fan of Black Metal style vocals and harsh guitar sound but enjoy more mid-tempo or even slow riffs and such, and are also a big depressed saddo, you might enjoy the sub-genre of Suicidal Depressive Black Metal. Its a great "blackened" compliment to funeral doom (in fact there are a few bands that are being described as "Funeral Black Metal" but that's primarily last.fm tags).

My favorite SDBM bands are:
Nocturnal Depression
Forgotten Tomb
Lifelover
I Shalt Become

This sort of thing has really only become popular in the last 10 years or more recent. There's some crossover with it and the larger sub-genre of atmospheric black metal but with a major focus on themes of suicide, depression, human extinction, antinatalism, etc. I have found it to be quite cathartic at certain times!

Anyway, that's my big sub-genre plug.

haha not one for the pop fans! Except the xasthur albums he made with the folk stuff on it

Remember to keep checking pastebin before voting. The nominations requested earlier will be added by seandalai. I have no access to pastebin

Pop fans obv. should be reevaluating Andrew W.K., who I feel is chronically underrated and disrespected.

well, people should remember it's not just a metal poll , it's heavy rock too.

I've only ever heard a few songs by andrew wk that I like. What is his best album?

as for AWK here's my rundown: Mother of Mankind > The Wolf > Close Calls With Brick Walls > I Get Wet > his other things (soundtracks, piano stuff, etc.)

His best power ballads are on The Wolf, imo. Close Calls + MoMK was released as a double album at one point so if nothing else I'd say check that out it has a great mix of stuff. If you can get past the realization that his melodies and lyrics have the depth of nursery rhymes he's really really fun.

I suppose his advice article in the Village Voice is actually the best thing he's produced, but that's not music.

A couple more duplicates in the list:
The Lord Weird Slough Feg - Down Among the Deadmen
Dark Space III

Wrong album title:
Grand Supreme Blood Court - Bow Down Before The Blood Court

Hoping that my policy of not nominating anything works out

well that was a silly policy

I don't even remember metal

you never metal her

Just realised no Deftones albums were nominated, was hoping to vote for them as my token nu-metal act.

Well if you follow the Artist - Album format I can add it to google docs and seandalai will add it to the pastebin noms. But only request these things if you actually do at least consider voting for it.

I dont think seandalai has updated pastebin from yesterday so it shouldnt be a problem.

Cool, thanks:

Deftones - White Pony
Deftones - Diamond Eyes
Deftones - Koi no yokan

Pretty sure all three of these will make my ballot.

Ok, I dont know when seandalai will get round to adding them as he's a busy chap.

I managed to cut down my draft longlist from 150 to 100. Sorted out my provisional top 10. That was really really tough. I wish I had asked seandalai to make the top 15 get extra points not just the top 10.

Is that possible seandalai?

Limp Bizkit looked promising as the flag for nu-metal voters to rally around.

If the top 15 or top 20 had extra weight then that would make it easier then everyone could then just fill upto 100 or whatever number they can manage and have that part unweighted so they get the same amount of points but those who love to rank 1-100 can do so too.

I hope everyone iwll try make the largest ballot they can. The two months voting period means noone has to rush in ballots and can use the time to listen or relisten to albums.

Which they can add on the playlist for everyone to check out
https://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy
spotify:user:pfunkboy:playlist:4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy

Siegbran, Frobisher and dj martian will have trouble cutting down to a top 100 I'm sure!

Hate to spoil the fun, but this is from 1995:
Petrucci, John- Rock Discipline (DVD)

it should not have been in it anyway. there's always one stupid cunt who has to troll, lol

Anybody have any albums they wish to recommend to those reading the thread?

that noisy one

serious answers please

I want to put a word in for that Plebeian Grandstand album I nominated - sort of discordant black metal/metalcore crossover (someone on RYM called them 'Deathscreamo Omega'). Really great.

Are EPs eligible as well? Or only full lengths?

That was one for the nominations thread. I dont actually remember what was decided.

I nominated an EP and intend to vote for it.

new board description

Unlike the all-time poll, which everyone knew who would win (but not which album), I dont see any actual certain winner standing out.
There's about at least 20 classics could win but none have sold so much that it makes them overwhelming favourites.

I think the past 15 years has been a great time for metal and heavy rock has been making a comeback to as people get fed up with extremity for extremities sake.

How is everyone deciding their tops tens? Most listened to albums? Or do you need to cut that shortlist down by ways such as 'game-changers'?

And how about the rest of the top 100 or whatever you choose to do?

Contenderizer and imago you always have convoluted ways of making ballots , how are you approaching this?

I'm just going to go through the nominations list and put the ones I've heard in order

Not going to use the time to re-listen or listen to albums you haven't heard?

The scope here is huge...danger of being too disparate for a consensus?

Might not be a bad thing?

ILM has a weird thing of wanting weird results unlike everywhere else who that has people who complains that *insert album here* isnt at #1 or whatever.

I slogged through the As and only saw 14 albums I'd heard (and most of those were by Amon Amarth) so I'm gonna chalk this up to "ILM's version of metal is not metal as I understand it" once again and walk away.

In before Cosmic Slop yells "IT'S NOT JUST A METAL POLL" again

yeah, a poll too disparate to achieve consensus is the best kind of poll. Nothing to reach against, no canon to alter -- just a list of the actual favorite albums by the people voting, where everyone is likely to be surprised and learn about new stuff

(誤訳侮辱), you nominated SHITLOADS of stuff you claimed to like.

Want some actual metal for your metal poll? Here you go.

Disturbed - The Sickness
Disturbed - Believe
Disturbed - Ten Thousand Fists
Disturbed - Indestructible
Disturbed - Asylum
Disturbed - Immortalized
Trivium - Ascendancy
Trivium - The Crusade
Trivium - Shogun
Trivium - In Waves
Trivium - Vengeance Falls
Trivium - Silence in the Snow
Korn - The Path of Totality
Within Temptation - The Heart of Everything
Within Temptation - The Unforgiving
Lacuna Coil - Comalies
Lacuna Coil - Karmacode
Lacuna Coil - Shallow Life
Lacuna Coil - Dark Adrenaline
In This Moment - Beautiful Tragedy
In This Moment - The Dream
In This Moment - A Star-Crossed Wasteland
In This Moment - Blood
Ozzy Osbourne - Down To Earth
Ozzy Osbourne - Black Rain
Ozzy Osbourne - Scream
Rob Zombie - The Sinister Urge
Rob Zombie - Educated Horses
Rob Zombie - Hellbilly Deluxe 2
Rob Zombie - Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendor
Slipknot - Iowa
Slipknot - Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses
Slipknot - All Hope is Gone
Slipknot - .5: The Gray Chapter
Machine Head - Through the Ashes of Empires
Machine Head - The Blackening
Machine Head - Unto the Locust
Machine Head - Bloodstone & Diamonds
Gojira - From Mars to Sirius
Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage
Lamb of God - New American Gospel
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn
Lamb of God - Ashes of the Wake
Lamb of God - Sacrament
Lamb of God - Wrath
Lamb of God - Resolution
Lamb of God - VII: Sturm und Drang
Judas Priest - Angel of Retribution
Judas Priest - Nostradamus
Judas Priest - Redeemer of Souls
Iron Maiden - Brave New World
Iron Maiden - Dance of Death
Iron Maiden - A Matter of Life and Death
Iron Maiden - The Final Frontier
Iron Maiden - The Book of Souls
Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Dream Theater - Train of Thought
Dream Theater - Octavarium
Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos
Dream Theater - Black Clouds & Silver Linings
Dream Theater - A Dramatic Turn of Events
Dream Theater - Dream Theater
Dream Theater - The Astonishing
Dimmu Borgir - Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia
Dimmu Borgir - Death Cult Armageddon
Dimmu Borgir - In Sorte Diaboli
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Opeth - Deliverance
Opeth - Damnation
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Opeth - Watershed
Opeth - Heritage
Opeth - Pale Communion
Amon Amarth - The Crusher
Amon Amarth - Versus the World
Amon Amarth - Fate of Norns
Amon Amarth - With Oden on Our Side
Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
Amon Amarth - Surtur Rising
Amon Amarth - Deceiver of the Gods

― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:13 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Motörhead - We are Motörhead
Motörhead - Hammered
Motörhead - Inferno
Motörhead - Kiss of Death
Motörhead - Motörizer
Motörhead - The Wörld is Yours
Motörhead - Aftershock
Motörhead - Bad Magic
Metallica - St. Anger
Metallica - Death Magnetic
Megadeth - The System Has Failed
Megadeth - United Abominations
Megadeth - Endgame
Megadeth - Thirteen
Megadeth - Super Collider
Megadeth - Dystopia
Slayer - God Hates Us All
Slayer - Christ Illusion
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Slayer - Repentless
Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted
Cavalera Conspiracy - Blunt Force Trauma
Cavalera Conspiracy - Pandemonium
Cannibal Corpse - Gore Obsessed
Cannibal Corpse - The Wretched Spawn
Cannibal Corpse - Kill
Cannibal Corpse - Evisceration Plague
Cannibal Corpse - Torture
Cannibal Corpse - A Skeletal Domain
Soulfly - Primitive
Soulfly - 3
Soulfly - Dark Ages
Soulfly - Prophecy
Soulfly - Conquer
Soulfly - Omen
Soulfly - Enslaved
Soulfly - Savages
Soulfly - Archangel

― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱),

what would a metal poll be without a virtual passive aggressive mosh pit

Phil seems to have a thing about hating lots of nominations. He tells us every poll.

Got my top 50 ready now

Contenderizer and imago you always have convoluted ways of making ballots , how are you approaching this?

― Cosmic Slop, Monday, July 18, 2016 12:09 PM (Yesterday)

i'm gonna vote for some albums i like

also ban alcest

why

Everyone vote Alcest!

actually nobody nominated Le Secret. When they actually were black metal.
I must ask seandalai to add that.

Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde is going to be pretty high up my ballot I reckon. At least Les Voyages... will probably make an appearance too.

If anyone wants to recommend any early-'00s black metal stuff on the noms list I will definitely give it a listen, that's kind a blind spot for me.

Pre-2003, say.

It looks like my Stargazer noms didn't make it on the list? Also Darkspace III listed twice

also Khthoniik Cerviiks - SeroLogiikal Scars (Vertex of Dementiia)

start w/ weakling - dead as dreams, gavin

I did fix the darkspace so all 4 are listed as intended but i have no access to pastebin so the fixes and added nominations wont appear on it until seandalai fixes it.

I doubt anyones voted yet since they havent said here they have so it shouldnt make any difference.

Everyone just needs to go via the pastebin link rather than the list in the OP

Thanks! (xpost)

Also the missing Electric Wizard albums

has anyone voted yet? If so please say here so seandalai can check

Gavin: Drudkh "Autumn Aurora", Hate Forest "Purity", Nyktalgia s/t, Abyssic Hate "Suicidal Emotions", Antaeus "Cut Your Flesh And Worship Satan".

Also, Megiddo "The Devil And The Whore".

Thanks Siegbran, will check those out.

I've already voted but I'm not the most adequate voter for this poll. Still there's some weird things:

* Limp Bizkit on the nominees and no Deftones? Wouldn't vote for either but still...
* Marnie Stern is in there too which is weird as it doesn't fit anything else I think? Still I voted for it because why not?
* No Om... Pilgrimage, conference of the birds, variations on a theme... they're stoner metal but they're still metal no?
* Other artists besides Om I would've voted for but weren't on the list: Mastery, Ehnahre, Chthe'ilist, Khanate

I can add them. Om and Khanate should be on there, yes

added to spreadsheet but will need to wait for seandalai to add to pastebin.

ps pretty sure limp bizkit was troll nominated along with disturbed etc. Why? check a certain persons post upthread

Use this just now until pastebin is updated

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104IXKSHN1uWxe3MRFy4R5tHEOxLriKoBRKcjCNu_zus/edit#gid=1956354072

if there's any doubles please let me know

oh and the deftones were added the other day BUT again pastebin wasnt updated as i cant do that.

I can repost all the noms here though if anyone cant access googledocs at work or whatever

There's a poster who hated nominations constantly being posted as it mucked up searches so If a mod could instead update my OP with the full noms or even just remove them and add the google docs link along with the pastebin link in its place that would be tremendously helpful but I dont know if any mod will do that as they dont like me and jjj doesnt seem to be around to help :(

Chthe'ilist

would vote, but their debut LP is excluded on grounds of being a 2016 release, and alls they've got prior is a 3-track ep

demo ep, i meant to say

om's first three definitely oughtta be on there tho

they are on the googledocs list

Put in a Mod request

* Marnie Stern is in there too which is weird as it doesn't fit anything else I think? Still I voted for it because why not?

Moka

She made a previous EOY poll and since the likes of Zombi and non-metal Ulver are on it why not indeed.

I did fix the darkspace so all 4 are listed as intended but i have no access to pastebin so the fixes and added nominations wont appear on it until seandalai fixes it.

Thanks! Urging everyone to vote for and/or check out the all the Stargazer records, particularly if left-of-center death metal is your thing. Other weird/underground metal to check out:

Domains - Spanish OSDM; queasy, downward spiraling chords and great songs
Khthoniik Cerviiks - from 2015, for those who liked the new Cadaveric Fumes or Wakedead Gathering records (or above Domains)
Morko - Finnish black metal that is pretty all over the place. Great musicians, thankfully not too Catholic about the genre (related to fellow Fins Jumalhamara)
Murmuure - ambient/sound collage black metal. One of a kind record, and I think the only thing he did
Cadaver Inc - black/death/thrash hybrid for fans of Dodheimsgard and Aura Noir

love that domains lp

while we're listing stuff that won't get many votes:

Furze - UTD: Beneath the Odd-Edge Sounds of the Twilight Contract of the Black Fascist / The Wealth of the Penetration in the Abstract Paradigms of Satan
Merrimack - Of Entropy and Life Denial
Stara Rzeka - Cień Chmury Nad Ukrytym Polem
Hordes of the Lunar Eclipse - Dancing Demons in the Grey-Lit Glade
Wyrd - Heathen
Wyrd - Huldrafolk
Vreid - I Krig
Vreid - V

The Murmuure is amazing. I have it on CD. I somehow missed the vinyl being issued at some point and now its about 200 euros to buy

and the weakling LP is even more so again I make do with my cd

but those 2 should be checked out.

Everyone should have a wee read at

Previous Metal Poll EOY Results Thread

If anything there is missing fron the nominations tell me here and I will add to the google docs.
Adding the Harvey Milk just now!

btw a kindly mod has added the googledocs link top of thread.

going to have to redo my shortlist as I forgot Yob. Now added to the google docs

Khthoniik Cerviiks - SeroLogiikal Scars (Vertex of Dementiia)
Stargazer - The Scream That Tore the Sky
Stargazer - A Great Work of Ages
Stargazer - A Merging to the Boundless

Yeah a lack of Yob would be surprising as they did well in the all-time metal poll (xpost).

christ almighty nobody nominated carcass - surgical steel

I also added turisas for jeff even though he couldnt be arsed nominating

I strongly suggest all of you look through Previous Metal Poll EOY Results Thread

so we can add what was missed

updated https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104IXKSHN1uWxe3MRFy4R5tHEOxLriKoBRKcjCNu_zus/edit?usp=sharing

Imago is there anything you want nominated ?

added witch mountain amongst other things.

added Triptykon albums. Everyone best check the noms as loads of important stuff has not been nominated.

added the goslings

and Nachtmystium

If any of the following weren't nominated,

Lapsus Linguae - You Got Me Fraiche
Jute Gyte - Ressentiment, Ship of Theseus
Dodheimsgard - A Umbra Omega
Blut Aus Nord - 777 - Cosmosophy
Lychgate - An Antidote to the Glass Pill
Cleric - Regressions
The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute
Isis - Panopticon
Kayo Dot - Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue
Earth - Hex (etc)
Devin Townsend - Addicted, Deconstruction, Terria
Ginger Wildheart - Albion
James Plotkin's Atomsmasher - Atomsmasher, Phantomsmasher
Thumpermonkey - Sleep Furiously, We Bake Our Bread Beneath Her Holy Fire
Extra Life - Made Flesh
Shining - Grindstone
Basarabian Hills - Groping In A Misty Spread
Orthrelm - OV
Zu - Cortar Todo
Negura Bunget - Om
Oceansize - Effloresce, Everyone Into Position, Frames

, then I guess they probably should be

you could at least check so i dont get any doubles.

i know earth, negura bunget, zu, isis, blut aus nord are there. I forget which jute gyte album was nommed

Sumac - The Deal
Lantlos - Melting Sun
Raspberry Bulbs - Privacy
The Darkness - Permission To Land
Godflesh - A World Lit Only By Fire
KEN Mode - Success
Echoes Of Yul - Tether
H.E.A.T. - Tearing Down The Walls

The Blut Aus Nord isn't there

Duplicates from my list are: Ship of Theseus, A Umbra Omega, Regressions, Panopticon, Dowsing Anemone, Hex, Cortar Todo, Om. Everything else not there yet

Imago can you format them properly so I can just C&p please? no need for bolding it just Artist - Album. Makes it easier for me

Lapsus Linguae - You Got Me Fraiche
Jute Gyte - Ressentiment
Jute Gyte - Vast Chains
Jute Gyte - Discontinuities
Jute Gyte - Senescence
Jute Gyte - Isolation
Blut Aus Nord - 777 - Cosmosophy
Lychgate - An Antidote to the Glass Pill
The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute
Devin Townsend - Addicted
Devin Townsend - Deconstruction
Devin Townsend - Terria
Ginger Wildheart - Albion
James Plotkin's Atomsmasher - Atomsmasher
James Plotkin's Atomsmasher - Phantomsmasher
Thumpermonkey - Sleep Furiously
Thumpermonkey - We Bake Our Bread Beneath Her Holy Fire
Extra Life - Made Flesh
Shining - Grindstone
Basarabian Hills - Groping In A Misty Spread
Orthrelm - OV
Oceansize - Effloresce
Oceansize - Everyone Into Position
Oceansize - Frames

thanks!

Added!

if the goal is simply to include every album anyone might possibly vote for, then why not treat the internet as the nominations list, and just let people put whatever they want on their ballots?

meanwhile...

Conan - Monnos
Conan - Blood Eagle

Circle - Sunrise
Circle - Tulikoira

because the spellings have to be correct otherwise seandalai's software wont pick it up properly. He's doing us a great favour doing the poll tabulating and I want to make it as easy as possible for him.

plus everyone needs a list to look through otherwise they forget to vote for stuff. The fact we are still taking nominations now is proof!!!

makes sense

Hammers of Misfortune - The August Engine
Hammers of Misfortune - The Locust Years

High Spirits - High Spirits
High Spirits - Another Night

added and updated

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104IXKSHN1uWxe3MRFy4R5tHEOxLriKoBRKcjCNu_zus/edit?usp=sharing

It's so hard deciding which Yob and Harvey Milk albums are the best. I could easily vote for them all. I may end up doing so.

illusion of motion, special wishes

I agree with special wishes I think but Catharsis or The Great Cessation for yob.

yeah, catharsis would be my other pick. love that album.

Yob, Harvey Milk, Unsane ,Swans and Celtic Frost (and Triptykon after that) all made amazing comeback albums as great as they did first time round. It takes something special to do that.

and all of those albums are nominated now.

It's going to be really hard to decide what misses out as 2000-15 really has seen so many great albums.

I know very few have sold enough to reach the status of Reign In Blood or Master of Puppets did in the 80s but that doesn't matter.

Its been a great time for metal IMO. Great new bands and classic old bands coming back as good as they were.

Who would've thought Iron Maiden would come back as strong after a poor 90s?

Problems with pastebin means seandalai cannot edit it so we are ditching it.

Please use the google docs link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104IXKSHN1uWxe3MRFy4R5tHEOxLriKoBRKcjCNu_zus/edit?usp=sharing

we can at least keep that up to date.

Looks like we have 9 ballots too so quick work, I thought we only had one!

If anyone wants to update theirs due to forgetting anything just submit a new ballot and leave a message saying why for seandalai (also best to say so here too)

cheers for putting this together btw

No problem, seandalai does the important stuff though!!

btw folks please post here when you vote so we can check it's gone through. I still feel rotten that billy dods votes werent counted in the all-time metal poll as his ballot didn't arrive.

No idea if he's still around but if so I hope he votes!

I'm one of those 9 that submitted so quickly. Didn't see the google doc link until now. I will be updating in the future. I also have a few that I'd like added to the doc if that is possible:

At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
Daughters - Daughters
Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage
Pissed Jeans - King of Jeans
Pissed Jeans - Honeys
The Body - All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood
The Body - Christs, Redeemers
Mount Eerie - Wind's Poem
Mastery - VALIS
Indricothere - II
Sigh - In Somniphobia
Earth - Angels of Darkness, Demons of Light I
Cathedral - The Guessing Game
maudlin of the Well - Bath
maudlin of the Well - Leaving Your Body Map
Fantômas - The Director's Cut
The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium
Gospel - The Moon Is a Dead World
The Icarus Line - Penance Soirée
Hot Snakes - Automatic Midnight

jeez louise, can't believe none hot snakes nominated. add too:

Hot Snakes - Suicide Invoice
Hot Snakes - Audit in Progress
Shellac - 1000 Hurts
Nasum - Helvete
Tragedy - Vengeance
Tragedy - Tragedy
Turbonegro - Scandinavian Leather
Zeke - Death Alley
The Bronx - The Bronx
Paintbox - Trip, Trance & Travelling
mclusky - mclusky Do Dallas
mclusky - The Difference Between Me and You Is I'm Not on Fire
Nomeansno - One
EyeHateGod - Confederacy of Ruined Lives
Iron Lung - Life. Iron Lung. Death
Iron Lung - Sexless // No Sex
Murder City Devils - In Name and Blood
Fucked Up - Hidden World
Fucked Up - The Chemistry of Common Life
Pig Destroyer - Prowler in the Yard
Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer

well, i dont remember hot snakes or mcluskey making metal poll before so im not sure theyre eligible

last thing we want is a poll full of indie rock

zombi and ulver for instance get in because they are metal musicians and/or making music mostly listened to by metal fans.

but ive added them.

heavy rock is heavy rock. rawr.

Careful, there are Six By Seven albums heavy enough on that precedent

If anyone tries to add more indie i will need to remove them

Marnie Stern,Zombi, Swans and Lightning Bolt get in because they made metal polls previously

Though why you lot didn't nominate in the nominations thread and go through all this already..

Cosmip Slop, whatchu got against Stargazer?

your poll, but i think you're making too much of the indie vs metal distinction. i mean, it would suck if the top 10 were all p4k indie favorites, but i doubt that's gonna happen no matter what.

i wan't around when this thing started up, so i only noticed when you announced the final day or two for nominations. takes my brain at least a week to get up to thinking speed.

Dominique, nothing. Why?

everything nominated should be on the googledocs spreadsheet. We are not using pastebin anymore.
I better ask a mod to remove the pastebin link

I checked and there's 3 Stargazer albums. Should there be more?

are comps ok w/ enforcement division?

Noothgrush - Failing Early, Failing Often

because I was using the wrong google docs link and didn't see them on the spreadsheet :P

I think we decided no comps

ok

certainly makes sense in this case, cuz it's all pre-00 material

Im sure you will have enough trouble cutting down your list to 100 as it is

I thought I had my 100 but with the extra noms made I need to change it.

Where to start!!

It's funny all you guys wanting to add indie but when we decided emo of the MCR/FOB style aka the one Kerrang and other heavy rock mags cover, nobody nominated them. Not even brad.

infact Brad was one who was against it as he doesn't like to mix emo with his death metal.

btw I added the missing Baroness albums and ive put the 2 ep's as one album because it was issued on a CD as the First Two ep's and it just makes more sense and its not a comp as such.

and I added Beastmilk - Climax which is an ILM fave

If Jeff, Chuck etc want to add stuff they want to vote for then they can.

Phil can add more to his noms too if he wants to. Always happy to allow things someone wants to vote for.

just read through the whole list. good job, everyone, it's gonna make for some interesting ballots. i'm done nominating stuff, but was surprised not to see ruins of beverast (hint hint).

also someone fp me for nominating mclusky

what ruins of beverast do you want added?

A kindly mod removed the pastebin link in the OP so everyone should know now to use googledocs as Seandalai as changed the link on the voting form.

they're all worthwhile, so

Ruins of Beverast - Unlock the Shrines
Ruins of Beverast - Rain Upon the Impure
Ruins of Beverast - Foulest Semen of a Sheltered Elite
Ruins of Beverast - Blood Vaults: The Blazing Gospels of Heinrich Kramer

George insisted High On Fire - The Art Of Self Defense was out in 2000 not 1999 so I've added it

It's funny all you guys wanting to add indie but when we decided emo of the MCR/FOB style aka the one Kerrang and other heavy rock mags cover, nobody nominated them. Not even brad.

I'll oblige:
Fall Out Boy - Folie a Deux
My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade

Muse - Black Holes and Revelations

You can't have that Muse album...

...without Muse - Origin Of Symmetry as well

NO Muse.

I'm only allowing the emo if Brad gives the OK as it was he who didnt want it in this poll. (possible emo poll at some point?)

John Zorn - Asmodeus
Ambergris - Ambergris
Camera Obscura - To Change the Shape of an Envelope
Rush - Clockwork Angels

Are there 2 Camera Obscura's? lol

You want to expand to the full hard rock spectrum but you want to exclude the biggest hard rock band in the world?

xp There are at least four on discogs. This is the San Diego hardcore band.

Mew -And the Glass Handed Kites
Mew - No More Stories Are Told Today, I'm Sorry They Washed Away // No More Stories, The World Is Grey, I'm Tired, Let's Wash Away
Mew - +-

dont count, sorry.

and then imago would want to nominate Mansun or something like that. :)

*puts foot down*

I think we have pretty much everything important nominated now.

San Diego Camera Obscura

i already allowed that one since you seem dead set on voting for it. Nobody gets late nominations if its not stuff you really want to vote for. the nominations period lasted months and that was when anyone should have voted for the stuff noones heard of really that MIGHT get 1 vote.

I would say everythings been added as of yesterday so its only the important stuff I'll add now

will be funny though if the twee pop fans mistakenly vote for it though sund4r :)

Thank you for adding my last minute additions. I will be voting for every one of them. Sorry about that.

No worries. I didn't even know anyone had voted until moka said yesterday she had.
I should ask seandalai to edit the form so that people know to say here they have so we can check it went through.

But only about 1 in 20 ever posts that they have voted anyway.

Looks like we did get a couple more today as we're into double figures but please remember folks to post here when you do your ballot.

thought I knew which Immolation I was going to go with, but now I don't. Damn band hasn't made any bad records, have they?

Never heard any

Really unique sounding, and definitely a bridge between the early US death metal sound of Incantation, Morbid Angel, and the like, and modern, experimental death metal. Close to A World Below is probably their most popular record, and weirdly, also happens to be the least compromising, as far as weird riffs and general intensity.

I just dont like 99% of death metal

Me neither but Immolation is part of the 1%

Damn 1% always ruling everything

been working all day on my ballot and Ive got my top 100 sorted. Top 30 in order now.

Just got to decide whether to order the rest or have the rest unweighted.

Voting only ends in september, I'm going to listen to a lot of nominations first.

If anyone wants to check out spacerocky psychedelic doom metal then check out the 5ive albums.

No, not the boyband.

5ive - 5ive
https://open.spotify.com/album/05J5tYEHp8S5o3Dw6oroXv

5ive - Hesperus
https://open.spotify.com/album/5s9fLbUPUB54v1f29ObUwX

that made the 2008 metal poll top 20 i think

Siegbran how will you cut down your 500 album shortlist to 100?

Ruthlessly.

you will need to be ruthless. But it isn't easy.

Time for some listening. Has anyone added anything to the Spotify playlist?

Just re-voted. Please only use the newest one. Thank you. Sorry about that.

No probs. Will let seandalai know tomorrow just incase he isn't reading this thread

I let seandalai know

I'm listening to Vintersorg's Visions From the Spiral Generator now. I bought Till Fjälls back at least ten years ago but never really got into anything else they did-- I think someone from a forum I was on at the time suggested it as an indispensable metal album but I didn't even know they were still going in 2005, much less 2016. Spiral Generator is great so far, definitely going to end up in my bottom 30 or so (reserved for stuff I hadn't heard before assembling a ballot).

what year is that from?

I think I've settled on my new top 10 in the wake of the new nominations.

xpost Spiral Generator was 2002, Till Fjälls was 1998.

One of the reasons I prefer Spiral Generator to his earlier albums is that it was the first to use outside musicians, rather than just two guys and a drum machine. And it doesn't hurt that the drummer was Asgeir Mickelson and the bassist was Steve DiGiorgio. (Not to say that the pre-Visons stuff wasn't great too.)

Kinda lost track of Vintersorg after Focusing Blur so one of these days I need to binge.

also obligatory fuck yeah for new Coroner

oh right, the Coroner mention was in the other thread; not used to having more than one metal thread floating around

It's a good thing though. ILM needs the M to be metal.

Just had to check if Swallowed - Lunarterial made the list, glad it did 'cos I was listening to it last night and forgot how great it is. It really captures the spirit of those ugly early 90s Finndeath demos/albums but doesn't feel retro, it's violent and atmospheric and utterly horrible in the best way.

Listening to Oneida now. It sounds like Trans Am?

Early Oneida was stoner rock then they went in a more Krauty direction

You listening to Each One Teach One? That's the noisy krautrock masterpiece

I bet it was 'Secret Wars'

I dunno why C'mon Everybody Lets Rock wasn't nominated. That's a brilliant album.

So would anyone like to campaign for some albums? It's a great way to make sure lesser known albums get listened to and maybe voted into the poll.

For those who have only ever heard Boris 'Pink' or 'Smile' please check out the masterpieces
'Flood'
'At Last : Feedbacker'
'Akuma No Uta'
'Dronevil'

There's been some discussion of Imperial Triumphant's Abyssal Gods on this forum already but it seems like every time I play it for someone, they've never heard it before, and they're usually impressed, so I guess if anyone hasn't heard it, you should try it?

Maybe I need to?

I played it the other night in plug.dj and you didn't like it due to the death metal vox. It's good stuff though, assuming you can deal with the singing.

Oh, them. Yeah I hated the vox

i lasted til they came in, sorry

I've been looking through some things I haven't heard of and noticed that I Shalt Become - Wanderings is from 1996, just to let people know. So far I've discovered Artificial Brain and Jumalhamara through this but I probably won't be familiar enough for them to make onto my ballot unless I have some space free.

That Refused album came out in 1998, too, I just realized.

ok please dont vote for those as they wont be counted.

think we have 18 ballots in so far. It's definitely time for everyone to start planning theirs now

I'm working on it. The order become more and more arbitrary as it goes down; apart from anything else it's hard to compare, say, Melt-Banana and Agalloch since it depends what kind of mood I'm in.

You can do mixed ballots where you can weight any number you like and have the rest unweighted where the unweighted albums will all receive the same number of (low) points. But your #100 album will get more points than it would get if it was weighted, but the higher ones wont get as many as if they were weighted.

Any questions ask seandalai

OK cool. I'll think on it.

♡♡♡ Each One Teach One + Secret Wars

was it you who nominated them?

bit quiet in the ballots this week. only one I think

Anyone started on their ballots yet? or was there no need for george's "study time" extended voting period as everyone leaves it to the last week anyway?

Youuuuuu

I just realised I forgot to vote. I might have another look at my final list tho before doing so

and ive no idea if any particular style of metal will dominate

I voted!

So who wants to rep for some albums that everyone can check out and maybe vote for?
Now is your chance to get your fave lesser known albums enough of a boost to get them into the rollout!

Shoegaze fans check out Isis - Oceanic and Isis - Panopticon.

BM fans check out Weakling - Dead as Dreams.

Doom fans check out Warning - Watching From A Distance

If you're into slooooow heavy music and haven't heard either of those Corrupted albums do yourself a favour and check them out!

And I think I've pushed them before, probably around when they came out, but Spectral Lore - III and Gris – À l'âme enflammée, l'âme constellée... are both modern black metal classics imo (but if you only like bm of the raw variety you probably wouldn't get much out of them)

Also... I'm not sure if many metal thread regulars/lurkers are into avant-prog or whatever but I noticed Lapsus Linguae - You Got Me Fraiche is on the noms list, it's pretty to describe in genre terms: heavy, piano-led art-rock or something like that. Something of an obscure outlier but quite brilliant in parts.

have one guess who nominated it

actually don't :D

gonna throw together a ballot for this after revisiting all the stuff from the noms list that i've been into in the past

I count about 49 of these that I have owned at one time or another, and of those about 33 that I could see myself voting for. Not sure if I'll have time to try and explore more of the list, but I could probably submit a ballot with just those.

either way is fine!

Yeah my ballot is gonna cap out at 30 out so, I like metal but I don't live and breathe it

Can we have Yellow Swans, Going Places?

if we're allowed to add stuff at this stage, can i have Cynic - Traced In Air? would be in my top 5 for sure if it was available

are they definitely out within the time period?

Both of those are, yes. As far as I can remember you can vote for things that aren't on the list but they're less likely to place. I tend to just choose from the noms anyway.

Seandalai is very strict about using the nominations list to C+P from.
I added them.

Ah, right you are.

Ah, right you are then, Ted

― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 16:21

No worries, Dougal.

I forgot to agree wholeheartedly with this

If you're into slooooow heavy music and haven't heard either of those Corrupted albums do yourself a favour and check them out!

time for everyone to work on their ballots

time to make the donuts

ok i must listen to some other stuff but i really feel like just re-listening to whats on my ballot already tbh

Well if you say what you like then maybe others can recommend you other albums to try?

Everyone can do that of they want

turbonegor/qotsa end of things but also jute gyte and xasthur end of extremity too

have you heard comet control?

nope

I'm going to need to investigate about 95% of the nominees before I prepare a ballot, I guess I haven't been listening to very much metal lately, I'm more of a "heavy rock" guy it seems...

To that end, I think the first two Tomahawk records are pretty unimpeachable, not really metal I guess but to my ears they sound like the kind of music serial killers would make.

Refused is from 1998 so its not eligible for this poll

So does anyone want to actually talk about albums that were nominated?

apparently not! is metal dead?

I can only comment on my own noms for the time being, and nobody wants to talk about Tomahawk, so does anyone want to have a go at Probot?

metal/heavy rock I should say

man I never felt so old as when I just realized I've spent several years of my life in a metal/heavy rock band

I didn't care much about the Probot

Tomahawk was great live but their albums haven't really caught me yet. I think I like Patton's stage presence more than his music, maybe?

I also recently listened to the s/t Mr Bungle album and wasn't impressed. I could swear I used to really like that record.

I swear you used to love it....about a decade ago

I feel like I've already repped records like Tara, The Voice Of Steel and Oath Bound an awful lot over the years, but I'd definitely like to throw my weight behind Rammstein Mutter, the finest pop album that metal has produced in two decades, and urge people to give Sabaton Carolus Rex a chance even though the thought of enjoying power metal might sound impossible.

I hope people dont forget to check out that Absu album 'Tara' that Siegbran mentions

I think Probot is a great idea anyway, what the world needs now is a metal Alan Parsons Project.

Tomahawk's third record is super intresting, though I didn't bother nominating it, doubt they will receive any votes besides my own anyway, but Duane Denison gets his hands on a book of Native American songs, transcibed ~100 years ago, and...that's the record! Never heard anything else like it. Well worth a listen if that sounds remotely appealing to you

I like tomahawk but they didn't make my longlist of 150 albums

I submitted mine! Now I feel anxious that I've missed something obvious.

haha we all do that. Luckily seandalai allows you to resubmit if you do

this is going to be harder now that I have more nominations to work with... I swear I'll turn in my ballot soon.

You have plenty of time, but a good idea if everyone starts!

Voted! Only my top 23 were weighted, though. I didn't have time to rank the rest. Not that voting time was too short, I just only had a few hours per week to listen to stuff, even if I'd devoted my life to listening to and ranking Enslaved albums I only would have gotten halfway through arbitrary half-assed decisions.

cheers!

Isa and Ruun are the enslaved albums i think are good, if that helps

I think Siegbran likes to pretend Enslaved had split by then?

I'm not sure I've listened to any Enslaved albums made in the past 15 years! At least, I don't remember any of them.

Oh god I just realized I lost my ballot list. I have to restart from scratch!

folks: save your spreadsheets, take it from me!

aww can I also nominate:
Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony

it's still my favorite of their's.

OK. Added

well except I forgot to add it. Its there now

There is now exactly 1000 albums nominated so we wont be allowing any more.
Please start on your ballots as there's not long left now and you do not want to leave it too late.

Probably your last week to boost albums by campaigning too

I should have nommed some Ildjarn or Vordr for this

Not like you purists to forget to nominate :)

Ildjarn doesn't really fit the 2000-2015 timeslot though, unless re-released demo material from the 90s is allowed.

its a bit late to argue about that. the months long nominations thread should have covered that.

In future 2 weeks for nominating and 2 weeks voting will be the maximum.

ps never ever let me listen to George again, right? :)

Everyone has until September 9 to vote. Its not that far away now so dont leave it to the last minute!

You guys need to listen to me for sure. Listen to me & listen to the Goslings

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4vz-2nVlD1E&feature=youtu.be

I think I overestimated how much interest was in this poll. Has the longer voting period and lack of thread chat put off people?

Even contenderizer and dj martian arent around

Well the genesis of the poll was basically excitement from extreme metal poll carried over, right? I think the hige gaps in the nominations thread kinda killed that zeitgeist

Dont fret yet though. I'm going to turn away from defeatism and start lobbying for all my noms

Seriously that Goslings album is the business, folks. Like Merzbow sitting in on a slowed down version of Bardo Pond's Lapsed

I'm still tinkering with the order but I'll probably vote today.

Anyway, it doesn't seem to have been mentioned on the noms thread, but whoever nominated Paintbox - Trip, Trance & Travelling is a champ. It's not my usual kind of thing, melodic hardcore, but it's got a good dose of eccentricity and dips into all kinds of things including psych-rock and that incomprehensibly fast type of Japanese hardcore amongst others.

everyone don't forget to vote for Devin Townsend - Addicted, you know, if that's your thing..

I voted!

Thanks!

Has anyone else discovered something they like from the nominations they hadn't heard before?

Anyone?

Bolt Thrower! don't think I'd listened to them before this exercise

also enjoying the Garden of Shadows record, low-budget overambitious prog-death

I thought everybody liked Bolt Thrower?

My kingdom for a ballot!

Looks like the mods are promising cake if you vote or something

what else could you take from this?

http://imgur.com/a/HcQU2

http://i.imgur.com/d5P60V5.png

Voted!

did the mods give you cake?

I have received no cake.

wrapping this up. Still trying to decide if I actually like DsO, or just like that they exist

funny, my ballot is on hold for the exact same reason

also same deal w/ the blood brothers

I thought it was because you were eating cake

Cake were not nominated btw

Just realised there is now only 2 weeks left to vote!

i have like 15 more albums to revisit/reevaluate, will hopefully get my vote in this weekend

We have about 20 ballots so far, who else is intending to vote?

What the heck - I'll cobble together a ballot - Sept. 9, right?

yup!!! 2 weeks today

I really want 'Chthe’ilist - Le Dernier Crépuscule' - it's listed on the ballot ... but dang, I could swear that was a 2016 release.

want to vote for, rather - just questioning eligibility

ok if its 2016 i will remove it

another ballot in - thanks for running the poll!

thank you!
The best parts of the polls is usually the chat but we've not had much sadly so if theres anything you or others want to campaign for or talk about please do!

TWO WEEKS LEFT TO VOTE

I listed to Solstafir's Svartir Sandar a few times in the last month, and it definitely made my ballot b/c of those recent listens. I totally slept on that release in 2011, and missed out - it's excellent. I saw Pallbearer this past week, and loved 'em - would've voted for Foundations of Burden if it was listed, but was happy to vote for Sorrow and Extinction b/c it's probably slightly better for me personally. They opened for Baroness, which had the most weird bro-metal crowd I've ever seen in Chicago (surpassing Mastodon shows). Really just violent hateful little fuckers getting mad at every encroachment on space in Metro from someone that wasn't their buddy - it was weird. Not the loving moshy atmosphere of a Motorhead or Slayer show, that's for sure. Cough's Ritual Abuse should get some love too - their new one is excellent as well.

I listened to Solstafir's Svartir Sandar a few times in the last month ... I mean .. ugh

I will vote, I'm taking my time to make sure I like my ballot and that it is meaningful.

I probably would have turned my ballot in a couple weeks ago but I had to restart, and I'm being more careful this time.

I plan to vote. I'm in the middle of moving to a new house and I don't have internet so it's gonna have to wait but I should be able to get my ballot in before the deadline, I just won't be able to listen to everything I intended to.

i voted !

only had 27 albums on my ballot which is a weird number but it felt just right

heh so much for the extra voting time to let everyone listen. Wont be doing that again :)

so just over a week to vote now

I finally voted! 100 albums, all weighted. :)

right folks last 7 days now, due to the two month voting period there will be NO extensions. It will close on time.

My dads out of hospital now so everything will go on as scheduled.

http://bbs.tecno-mobile.com/filedata/fetch?id=29131&d=1462984043

Who is still to vote?

Hope you're old man is ok.

Vote Corrupted!

I'll vote, havent put a final list together.

I'll send in mine this wkd

*your

Xp

cool, keep em coming

How many do we have so far?

I wonder what nu-metal is gonna place... My guesses:

Deftones - White Pony
SOAD - Toxcicity
Slipknot - Iowa

& not nu-metal but kinda related:

Tool - Ænima

lol never mind I just remembered this was 2000 to 2015 none of those albums count.

wow nm I guess they all count but the Tool one.

lateralus is better than aenima anyway

How many do we have so far?

― Frobisher,

about 20 or so

If everyone posted here that they voted it would be easier to know

anyone lurking please remember you are still allowed to vote. Thats normal metal poll practise

20 is hardly enough to be very representative. My extreme metal poll had, I don't remember, but about that many and the results were pretty muddled there was a tiny point spread...

C'mon people vote... even just put together a top 5 or 10, it will really help!

What's everyone's favorite Electric Wizard album? Dopethrone is an all-time classic but I think Black Masses is really great. I remember listening to it at least a dozen times when it first came out -- I don't do that a lot.

People tend to leave it til the last minute no matter how long the voting period is it would seem

Just had a look at the responses sheet as I hadn't checked it for a few days and we are actually over 30 ballots not sure how many are people revoting but we might be around 35 ballots

Obviously I want as many people as possible to vote in this but a low turnout would make the results pretty... interesting. Then again I was thinking the other day about how unpredictable the rollout will be anyway due to a lack of consensus, 10-15 years isn't enough time for records to be established into a canon or whatever. It also doesn't help that in this time frame metal has increasingly fragmented into so many different microgenres and variations.

I have got no idea what the top 10 will be. It's not like the 70s and 80s who you know who would dominate (sabbath/zep and Metallica/slayer)

I dunno if there would ever be enough interest but a 70s metal poll (maybe an 80s one after that) is something I'd fancy trying at some point next year.
Only problem is deciding what counts but that could make the poll thread interesting at least.

I voted! 27 albums on my ballot

Oh shit, it's time

fwiw Perdurance is better than anything I'm going to vote for, but you all knew that already

I can see a few late ballots coming for jute gyte then

Still plenty of time left

and thanks to all who voted so far, hopefully we can get loads more now voting closes on friday and some lurkers vote. Invite a few friends to vote even and remember everyone you dont need to be a metal diehard to vote just look at the nominations and vote for what you like on it.

xpost im sure id have voted for Perdurance but i havent heard it all yet

is that not the one out this year?

yea

Then it wouldnt count for this poll.

Nothing from 2016 does as they will be in the EOY poll

Are there any front runners for this poll? what do you all think might win?

Not seen any preliminary results so have no idea what is winning.

If it had been five years ago then Boris mightve won but I think their stock has totally collapsed now.

i've been through the entire nominations list and there are 78 records i want to vote for, roughly ordered

maybe 55 of them are actually metal :D

so you nominated 33 albums?

23 you mean :P

nah You usually have 10 real metal albums you like!

imago are you familiar with cynic - traced in air?

ooh, i am not

i'll take it to be a homework assignment :)

yeah it seems up your alley

omg listen to that record immediately lj

am listening! it's like the mars volta read what death metal was and tried to recreate it :)

you have a unique way of putting people off listening to a band LJ lol

he's right tbh

yeah, it's v good, added to ballot. took me 1 1/2 listens to work out quite why it's good - it seemed a bit unadventurous on first listen but the second spin is teasing out its yearning melodic heart. plus the fade segue from track 4-5 is awesome

if you like anything that quickly have you tried the Corrupted albums?

sometimes i add things to ballots based on the first 20 seconds. i suspect that corrupted is more of a three-hour job tho lol

really cynic strike me as a much more concise BTBAM, which means better albums if not better outrageous hail marys

Corrupted albums are long tracks but then they do 2 min singles. Must be quite amazing live.

Pretty damn sure you would dig the albums.

You cant tell me this isnt imago music

The band's sound is characterized by down-tuned guitars and bass playing slow, monotonous riffs under deep layers of feedback. The vocals are harsh, guttural growls, and the music alternates between long instrumental sections and sections with vocals which go for long periods of time without rest. They have been described by one writer as "some of the heaviest, gloomiest doom/sludge around, distinctly cacophonous, layering feedback pulverizing progressions into a distinctly cacophonous rumble."[3] However, some songs feature long acoustic sections, spoken-word interludes, and unconventional instruments. An example of the latter can be found on their 2005 album El mundo frio, which is a 72-minute song with extensive sections of harp. As another writer notes, "Right when you think you can peg Corrupted as an all Doom band they release a lush acoustic set within their bleak musical landscape."[1] To this effect, they recently added a keyboardist, Takehito Miyagi, to their lineup, which had previously consisted only of guitar, bass, drums and vocals.

Corrupted has a few idiosyncrasies. Though they are from Japan and their members (including lyricist/drummer Chew Hasegawa) on most releases are all Japanese, they sing almost exclusively in Spanish, though some songs contain sections in Japanese or English. In addition, the band has never taken promotional pictures nor do any of the albums contain group photos. The only known existing photographs are taken by fans at concerts. The band also never does interviews. Corrupted's albums typically contain extensive liner notes in the form of bleak black-and-white photographs, often real-life scenes of war-torn areas or other depictions of human suffering.

Much of Corrupted's discography appears on split albums, which they share with other doom metal bands or often with grindcore bands. The band is known for its ability to produce songs of virtually any length; their longest album El mundo frio consists of a single song substantially longer than an hour, while their shortest song, "Reset", recorded for a homeless benefit compilation, lasts less than two minutes.

I do wish a label could compile all those single and EP releases on a 2xCD set but the releases are all on different labels and noone can come to agreement

Imago did you check out the 5ive albums?

all in time, all in time!

i did check out at least one tbf, might delve a bit deeper

cynic album is growing on me with each listen

I think we are nearing 40 ballots. Think EOY poll gets around 60 each year so maybe we can get near that?

As for predictions, I think Electric Wizard, ISIS, and Agalloch will place. Converge maybe, and possibly Baroness.
Knowing ILM I'm sure a Jute Gyte album will show up. I hope an Andrew W.K. album makes the cut, but I kinda doubt it.

Clear 1st place winner: Deafheaven - Sunbather ;P

If the last couple of yearly metal polls is any indication then ILM collectively likes a lot of retro/doom/stoner stuff I'm not really fussed about so I expect a lot of that sort of thing to appear. I think Boris should still do well, at least Pink will I reckon, my highest placed Boris album is the one nobody likes though haha.

Black metal usually does better than doom actually but there's been a lot more death metal recognised in recent years but the only thing is that the high profile DM fans on rolling promo thread hate polls and refuse to vote and that's a good few people but what can you do?

If I ever do a 90s metal poll I'd expect DM to dominate (Id do a 70s then 80s series of polls first btw) so dont expect anything for a year or 2 on that front.)

I like Pink (and voted for it, albeit towards the bottom of my ballot) it was the first Boris album I heard, it's a fun record.

(xxpost)

Boris mostly bores me, except the opening track of Pink /hipster

have you heard the classic stuff they made before Pink?

a bit

I like their flamboyant J-rock album way better than anything else I've heard by them

Have you heard
Absolutego
Boris at Last -Feedbacker
Dronevil
Flood
Akuma No Uta
Heavy Rocks (the 1st one not the 2011 one)

Carcass - Surgical Steel must be a contender?

yeah i think "Flare" is my favorite boris song. kick me out of the metal club if you wish

Prediction: Primordial won't make it and I'll be pissed.

I voted Primordial!

Maybe late voters will all vote for Primordial!

i did...

Submitted a list of 100. Grueling.

It started out sensibly enough but went deep into the weeds. Somehow I've ended up with albums that should be on there but aren't. Oh well. I realized I forgot quite a few bands that I love, but didn't feel like reshuffling and working them into my ballot. (Sorry, Vektor, Hour of Penance, and Gojira, among others.)

And I have no clue why I never nominated Watain's Sworn to the Dark, Mgla's With Hearts Toward None, DSO's Si Monumentum..., and Funeral Mist's Salvation; I had to go back and find my initial submissions to verify that I indeed forgot them. Oh well. I didn't vote for them, needless to say.

Fun!

oh right, meant to put Primordial on there too, ha

to quote Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force, "it don't matter; none of this matters."

So how do I indicate a mixed ballot - on top the weighted list with a heading "weighted", leave a blank line, and then a list under an "unweighted" heading?

select 'mixed'

on the drop down menu

http://i.imgur.com/3Tpr14H.png

is there a holiday in the US today? ILX is awfully quiet with only 30 active users

Labor Day

OK, voted!

ahh, cheers brad.

thanks Siegbran!

Brad what has been the best death metal albums of 2000-15 in your opinion?

what should everyone listen to before voting?

or indeed any DM fans reading please chip in

my usual 2 cents:

for DM that still carries the old school American sound (ie: Morbid Angel, Incantation, Immolation), it's gotta be the 3 D's: Domains' Sinister Ceremonies, Disma's Towards the Megalith, and Dead Congregation's Graves of the Archangels. And speaking of the classics, Immolation's Close to a World Below and Morbid Angel's Gateways to Annihilation started off the new millennium in a very good way.

For a couple that sound old and dank but lack very obvious lineages, there's Lantern's Below and Begrime Exemious' Visions of the Scourge. The former is very aptly titled because it has a grainy, subterranean sound that makes you feel like a tentative, torch wielding player in a DOS Roguelike. I suppose this could apply to Begrime Exemious as well, except in that case you're madly running from whatever horrible thing you've found at the bottom of the dungeon.

Ataraxy's Revelation's of the Ethereal doesn't have much in the way of song distinction, but it's got a churning, Finnish quality to it that makes for good death metal ambiance.

For maybe the single most relentless, massive, and crushing thing, Lost Soul's Immerse in Infinity is tough to top. It's modern death metal with everything pushed to the red, but sounds clean, clear, and cosmic.

The two best death metal bands of the post-00's (in my opinion) are Anata and The Chasm. The first is Swedish and technical but unlike any other "Swedish" or "technical" band out there: groovy but always shifting percussion, alien guitar melodies and harmonies, and an overall feel of madness dueling with sanity. The Chasm have a vague resemblance to Dissection, in that they take a traditionally listener-unfriendly genre and load it up with more inclusive, almost anthemic qualities -- and every album of theirs feels like a trip into the outer limits. Listen to everything by both of these bands.

Two outliers are Sarpanitum's Blessed Be My Brothers, a sort of cross between Nile's debut and Mithras' Morbid Angel spaciness, and Sickening Horror's The Dead End Experiment, which is very Demilich and oddly swinging.

If you like the meatheaded stuff that still manages a little catchiness, there's Cannibal Corpse's Bloodthirst, Sepsism's Distorting the Mortal Visage, Abnormality's Contaminating the Hive Mind, and maybe Septycal Gorge's more recent two albums.

And finally, for the hallucinogenic occult thing, Obliteration's Black Death Horizon and Swallowed's Lunarterial should send you to a twisted, happy place.

(There have also been Horrendous, Tribulation, and Morbus Chron, the darlings of the underground, but their music goes all over the place.)

for DM wholeheartedly cosign Domains, which IMO is one of the best records period of the 21st Century.

Also repping Khthoniik Cerviiks, all Stargazer, Gorguts' Colored Sands and Immolation's Close to a World Below and Unholy Cult. Also sorry for not voting yet, home internet access down, only have phone and frankly doing a ballot like this seems like torture. Hope to be reconnected soon!

yeah I kind of glided by that Domains but it was my #5 of the past decade and a half. There's a musicality in it that lays to waste almost of all of the formless death metal of the 2000-2010s. If they can top Sinister Ceremonies with a sophomore album I will just combust.
https://domainsofdeath.bandcamp.com/album/sinister-ceremonies

And Colored Sands was my #2. It's in a genre of its own. It's the second most tremendous album of the last 15 years behind Ordo ad Chao. Just pure visionary greatness.

I don't know who's behind Domains but I feel like either he or they are classically trained -- the way each riff builds into the next and comes back in a crescendo. It's really ridiculous. Every song.

My favourite is Witchrist <i>The Grand Tormentor</i> which is a heavier and more occult sounding take on Incantation.

looking forward to this rollout
will try and throw a top 10 over at the end of this week but apologies it might not be very metally

well, it is a heavy rock poll too not just metal plus we tend to go with chuck eddy definitions

No teena marie albums were nominated however

There are some eligible ones as well. Also Kix had an album out in 2014!

Also oddly missing are last year's Def Leppard and Europe albums.

well, it is a heavy rock poll too not just metal plus we tend to go with chuck eddy definitions

Bah, you didn't even accept Muse and Mew.:P

we still have standards

and pollrunners rights :)

4 days left to vote!

Also oddly missing are last year's Def Leppard and Europe albums.

doesn't seem that odd to me! :P

I think trolls choose to nominate nu metal now instead

Sadly 2000 is the exact cutoff point where I stopped liking almost all new metal that was released. Besides Kosherat by Grand Belial's Key. So yeah, that one's at the top of my non-existent 2000s top 10.

why don't you like new metal?

^ why don't you like old metal? :)

i *really* love that one death ss song ('terror') you showed me. sadly nothing else they've done seems to measure up to it. but it's like the definitive old-skool metal song imo

but you dont like sabbath, zep, priest, maiden, metallica?

working on it

how is your ballot going? is your better half voting too?

only 3 full days and 50 mins to get your ballot in

Anyone still to vote?

taking my time

This should make some of you amused... the other week the pinefox recommended Dopesmoker to me. sund4r was especially tickled by that.

lol. Oh yeah, CS have you heard of this obscure record "Oceanic" by little-known group Isis (Not the Terror org.!)

it wasnt that. it was the fact that of all people the pinefox was recommending it.

vöted

Voted! I haven't heard tons of the list, but of the ones I own a good portion I found through ILM.

thanks guys!

tomorrow is your last day folks so get on it! you have no excuse for not having enough time as voting period was 2 months!

though I bet jjj will still say he missed it

gonna try v hard to vote in this lol

you can trim it down to 100. I have confidence in you

is tangenttangent going to vote?

Yes! Starting now

Why have I been listening to so much sunshine pop recently instead of this? Is it too disingenuous to add things that I discover within the last two days?

i decided since there's not really a lot of time to research new things to just submit a ballot. almost hit 50, which was surprising, i wasn't expecting to get past 20

lotta surprises in that list considering i didn't nominate anything

you should have, there was months and months to nominate

i'm just glad this poll finally got me to listen to Ghost - Meliora after previously giving up on them. big mistake corrected

you should have, there was months and months to nominate

eh i got a pretty good list out of what was nominated! very reflective of my actual taste

Have you heard
Absolutego
Boris at Last -Feedbacker
Dronevil
Flood
Akuma No Uta
Heavy Rocks (the 1st one not the 2011 one)

― Six days left to vote in ILM Lifetime heavy Rock & Metal Poll (Cosmic Slop), Sunday, 4 September 2016 16:20 (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It took me four days to realise this was addressed to me, but anyway, I don't find Boris' droney stuff very interesting I'm afraid. I listened to Flood a few weeks ago and found it as tedious as I always do. I know I repped for Corrupted upthread but they're a real anomoly in music taste because my attention span just isn't long enough for most really slow-burning music.

I thought It was meant for Imago as well

but tbh it should be aimed at everyone who hasnt heard them esp those who have only heard pink and smile

under 26 hours to go!

I think we may be approaching 60 ballots! Not sure how many are people revoting though to replace their old ballot but 60 is about what we get in the EOY polls

http://i.imgur.com/v7JCrWm.jpg

Mordy has been posted missing

Mordy has voted! We must be close to 60 ballots now.

What happens if Babymetal wins?

http://i.imgur.com/ArpLwVo.jpg

also, I hope I wasn't supposed to do anything special to my ballot in order for my top 10 be "extra-weighted."

Thanks for the great death metal suggestions in this thread, although I didn't feel like I had enough time to get comfortable enough with new (to me) stuff to vote for it.

Did I really forget to nominate Paik - Satin Black? Wow Im dumb

Still voting for it tho

My favourite is Witchrist The Grand Tormentor which is a heavier and more occult sounding take on Incantation.

― Siegbran, Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:01 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Listening to this now after searching the thread for 'occult' - it's great. All the possible permutations of saying their name aloud also good.

Wee Tchree Street

Anyone left still to vote? less than 10 hours to go!

voted

thanks!

I will need all ten hours.

lol this poll has been running since january