Bloc Party: C/D?

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Fluxblog turned me onto Bloc Party a couple months ago with an mp3 from the first single, and I've just heard the songs from the new "Banquet/Staying Fat" single along with some loose tracks from the Lamacq session (notably "Little Thoughts").

I'm completely sold. Apparently, there's going to be two more singles this year with a full-length to follow next January.

Classic or dud? Or too early to judge?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

Too early to judge.

Xii (Xii), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

Saw them at Eat your own ears a month or two back in Islington, and thought they were possibly one of the worst things I've ever had the misfortune to hear

Having said that I also heard the track on Fluxblog and thought it was OK, so probably too early to judge

actionjackson, Friday, 30 April 2004 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

Too mediocre to bother judging

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 30 April 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

i thought this was going to be a thread about lisa left-eye :-(

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 30 April 2004 10:37 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
*how* good is 'banquet'. it's really 1983 though isn't it?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i like the single lots, moshi moshi printing up only 2000 copies was madness, they could have really paid the office rental if they had pressed up more with. whether they can maintain the vibe while they record the album this summer will be interesting (esp as the world will no doubt have moved on from the current gang of four revival thing). i am now very fed up with Franz Ferdy. and worried that this lot could fall into the same type of trap of overexposure.

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Those of us in the States will be treated to a compilation cd of the first two singles and a couple more tracks this September when Dim Mak brings Bloc Party across the pond. I can barely wait.

Franz who?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
i like the compilation of the two singles. at times they seem a bit like a low-rent Ikara Colt but i think they've got a bit more depth. was very surprised to see the debut 45 go for obscene amounts on ebay recently, find it difficult to imagine them as the sort of band who would attract obsessive fans..

purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Oooooh what sort of obscene amounts? I have their demo...

DJMencap0))), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link

57 pounds

purple patch (electricsound), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

DJMencap0)), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
this b ep I just listened to is a total dud. a crap post rock type song and a crap ambient type song, but that Banquet track is alright, I guess.

seem to be pretentious assholes too, "Suffice to say there would be no band without the efforts of guitar bands formed in British and American towns in the 70s, 80s and 90s, aswell as visionary writers and artists of various kinds whose work has informed the world and culture itself as it stands. The precise names are as good as any you can come up with, in fact probably much, much better."

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 10 September 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

then they all list who they are "informed" by!

Gordon Moakes - D.O.B 22.06.76 - Instrument: Bass and voice - Informed by "Anne Sexton, JG Ballard, Joy Division, melodic hardcore, Kubrick, the Gang Of Four, British post-punk, Sonic Youth"

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 10 September 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

crap post rock type song and a crap ambient type song

I have no idea what cd you might be listening to, but it certainly doesn't sound like Bloc Party.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 10 September 2004 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Just heard "Banquet" on the Vice sampler CD - amazing. There's obviously still a few gems to be squeezed from this post-post-punk think.

Taxi Dancing in the Soft Prison (Ben Boyer), Friday, 1 October 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Banquet is alright, but there's nothing life-changing about it.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Friday, 1 October 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i love banquet. i'm looking forward to an album..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Saturday, 2 October 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Banquet's great, but I like Little Thoughts even more.

Just slsked a couple of live performances of songs yet to be officially released (This Modern Love, Luno). I can barely contain myself waiting for the full-length.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 2 October 2004 07:55 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
The latest shizzle:

Little Thoughts EP, which contains everything they've released since the first EP (sans "Always New Depths" for some reason), will be out in Japan on 1 Dec and in the US on 25 Jan... haven't found anything for a UK/Europe date.

Silent Alarm LP will be out on Wichita in the UK and on V2 in Europe/Japan on 14 Feb and on Vice/Atlantic in the US on 20 Mar (vinyl on Dim Mak same day).

WFMU studio set here (begins approx. 5:20 into stream).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 15 November 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

everyone seems to have heard "banquet" but I like that song "staying fat" (?) better anyway.

...and yeah, I agree it's too early to tell.

ryebot (ryebot), Monday, 15 November 2004 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i would just like to note that my earlier comment on this thread was about the band Battles, not Bloc Party (they share a label and i get confused)

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 15 November 2004 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link

they are the alarm for the 00s.

weird monster, Monday, 15 November 2004 09:22 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I was lead to believe this band would be good! :(

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone lied to you. They're actually GREAT.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I am kind of bored of the record already. "Like Eating Glass" is good but alot of the rest is too like Dawsons Creek music, a la the Killers.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

It is HORRIBLE! :( :(

Where's the "Party"?

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I WAS PROMISED A PARTY!

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

This album definately changes with further listens. When I first heard the band I love Little Thoughts and on the album initially I liked the old singles, Banquets and She's Hearing Voices. But now my favourites are Positive Tension (I hated it originally) and Price of Gas. The ballads on it are still rubbish though

jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Where's the "Party"?

Madonna to thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Too early to judge.

Broken Hipster (Broken Hipster), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

They will give the NME demographic a quick enema.

elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that a less intense version of "tearing them a new asshole"?

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the single banquet is ok. however I can't imagine being captivated by this band. seems almost too formulaic. bloc party are the new franz. the bravery are the new killers. and when I say "new" i really mean they are all rip offs

owen reading, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Not really like a complete removal of anal area more a cleansing of the sphincter hopefully washing away some nasty congealed Babyshambles from the particularly nasty stomach upset that was The Libertines's reign of terror but The Bravery look like being some kind of rear guard action butt plugging device designed to keep it all in.

elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm...now that I'm finally hearing them, I proclaim to be very like Moving Units in my mind, which is no bad thing. It is of a 'type' currently current, to be sure, but it works well enough. Some Cure/Smiths/etc. bands are better than others...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

yay ned!

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it too. Unusual for me.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Helicopter.

Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link

they're a thousand times better than the moving units (who i also like)

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link

This album is all about the drums. Put a song like 'So Here We Are' in the hands of, say, Snow Patrol or Coldplay and they wouldn't really know what to do with it other than just making the guitars louder and louder. Here they build the momentum just by making the rhythms more and more complex so the guitars can carry on doing that great shimmery thing and the effect is *so much* better.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I fucking love this record. It makes me very happy. I'm loathe to talk or write about it too much though because I've gotta save it for the Stylus review.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i think they are gonna stick around for awhile. i get that feeling.

owen reading, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Okay, confirmed. These guys to me are what Killers etc aren't -- they WORK.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay, me and Ned like the same thing (and it's not 20 years old).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Chuck Eddy also agrees! There is a groundswell here. (Listening to the new album and loving it.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, that just makes it more weird.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

The record is actually pretty good, but the New Order record probably means that I won't listen to it much (as they're in a similar vein for me). The drumming *is* great.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, when I heard the new album tonight I let myself listen closely to the drumming, there's some great stuff there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link

the drumming is indeed very good. and i think this album won't wear off as quickly as Franz' album did for me. not as instant hitting but better aging in time i think

Rizz (Rizz), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=2746

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

fantastic review

i wish people in the press would stop comparing them to franz ferdinand

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i do like that they are much better than what i expected. 'So Here We Are' reminded me of a number of tracks and acts from '91 (but can't quite think who - that's a good thing tho).

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

It's Adorable. I swear.

nabiscothingy, Monday, 14 February 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

This is no problem at all! (I think you are right though in that I was trying to remember who the hell the singer reminded me of.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

It's Adorable. I swear.

but much better! (and i love the first Adorable LP)

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

this is ok you guys!!!

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

thank you, bloc party. i listened to your album all day and it kicked my ass. you're everything i pretended that the Futureheads were doing perfectly and everything that Interpol failed to do on Antics... but why oh why did my girlfriend say that you sounded... emo? She's wrong, right? I know she's wrong. Tell me she's wrong.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, she's not so much wrong as she's sorta not right.

Opinion of album = !!!!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link

"so here we are" is pretty emo sounding--if only for that appegioed guitar line.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Yea, i listened to it twice more. There's a few instances where I think, "Shit. If that guy from Blink-182 was singing this, I'd hate it." Oh well. Good thing they're Britons.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 08:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I heart it.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 08:25 (nineteen years ago) link

quality definitely declines in the late innings of silent alarm. but overall good!

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Singles are hot but on lots of the other songs his voice sounds wack and I don't like it.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah the last couple of tracks on Silent Alarm don't quite hold up to the rest but the dual guitar bit at the end of the Plans is great.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I love it too. Price of Gas, She's Hearing Voices, So Here We are, are highlights. And also "The Marshalls are Dead" - is this on the album? Dunno, cos I've always (well, for a few months), just had a 28 track compilation.

paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a few instances where I think, "Shit. If that guy from Blink-182 was singing this, I'd hate it."

Hahah -- a fellow writer friend down here was complaining about BP precisely because of a Blink-182 similarity. (He preferred the Futureheads, which I admit I've not yet heard.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, am I the only person that doesn't love this lot? I mean, I've tried listening to a few tracks and I'm just not getting what you're seeing here - they just seem ordinary. I'm not hating them, but I'm not in the least exicted by them either.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Watch the videos. Read the interviews. They're a really likeable band and once you're familiar with them, it adds a bit to the music itself.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess I'm avoiding them because all this hype smacks of desperation on the part of the British press.
They seem marginally less repellant than some of the other over-hyped British bands. But I'm yet to be grabbed by anything of theirs except the Phones Disco edit of "Banquet".

TayBridge, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

They're a really likeable band and once you're familiar with them, it adds a bit to the music itself.

This never does anything for me.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

fantastic nitsuh!

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

tht should obviously say 'nitsuh fantastic', sorry.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Cozen. Mixed reactions to that review have actually clarified to me what I was trying to get across with it: that this album is like audibly great and really well-made but can't quite get me to the point of getting super-enthusiastic about it; it's "just" a really well-made rock record.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Which, of course, is a perfectly great thing to be!

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

better than me!

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

But you're a really well-made rock record critic, Cozen!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Cozen has a more memorable personality than Bloc Party. (Which is okay, because Bloc Party are good enough not to need too much personality.)

Also, Ned, the other person their singer kinda sounds like sometimes -- weirdly -- is Colin Hay from Men at Work.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the epitome of the emo uneasiness I'm experiencing with the record is on track two or three where all the instrumentation drops and the lead singer squeals, "So fuckin' useless!" I mean, I don't mind it all that much-- it just sets off my Third Eye Blind sensors...

And "Price of Gas" kind of bugs me for some reason. Maybe I can't relate because I don't have a car (or live in Britain-- is it worse off there?), but I kind of want to say, "Yep... the price of gas is high...and?" It'd be like if I recorded a song called, "The Value of the Dollar" that went, "The dollar's getting weaker / The dollar's getting weaker... So fuckin' useless!

Otherwise, awesome record. Nabisco, I like your take: it's solid, but it doesn't have that, um, "urgency" or, er, "magic" that you get sense sometimes when you hear something fresh (the way I felt after I picked up Arcade Fire). That doesn't mean it's bad. The Stylus review pumped me up ("I belive in this!"), but it didn't last... It's still my favorite thing to come this year so far.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

poortheatre, the price of gas is not in dollars! It is in blooooood.

That said, I like the song.

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Re: that song I do really like the ambiguity of the “we’re gonna win this” cry.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Paul McCartney had a song called "The Pound Is Sinking." (It's great.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

(Seriously.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's... okay.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

(The album, I mean. I'm just starting to get burned out on anything remotely mid-'80s-UK-ish unless it has a murder-you-to-death 4/4.)

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I posted something about this in another thread, but the Bloc Party are playing in NYC this weekend for the Motherfucker Party they throw every holiday. I've never been, but it's apparently a good time.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

better than that, ned!!!! < /hopeful>

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Yowsa!

I'm just starting to get burned out on anything remotely mid-'80s-UK-ish

Trust me, Go West weren't all that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Just finished listening to the album for the first time and I think it's great. I just think it's a shame that the drums sound so flabby - a bit more attack on the kick and snare particularly could make a huge improvement.

I'm not remotely to see that young Nedric likes it; 'cos what it probably reminds me of more than anything else is Pornography-era Cure.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link

If anyone gives a toss, this is probably my joint favourite album of the year so far, together with Pork Chop Blue Around The Rind by Fast 'n' Bulbous.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

this album broke my cd drive, fact. I kinda irrationally hate the bloc party and their music now.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Just found out there's a hidden track before "Like Eating Glass" on the V2 (UK/Euro) version of the disc. Anyone heard it yet?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

My guess would be that its Little Thoughts.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Nah, people on the Bloc Party LJ forum who'd be familiar with Little Thoughts have no idea what track this might be.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel like a bit of a lone voice, but after trying desperately hard to like it, i still think it is nowhere near as good as they promised. i made a comp for a friend of all the singles and b-sides just before the album got leaked and that is so much better than the album itself. there's too many pedestrian tracks that just seem to chug along at mid-tempo to nowhere.

i'm still waiting to have my epiphany and love it like everyone else, but at this point, it's 6/10 and no more.

fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Just found out there's a hidden track before "Like Eating Glass" on the V2 (UK/Euro) version of the disc. Anyone heard it yet?

i'll have to have a listen. you don't have any lyrics from it to hand?

i like this album a lot, but i can't help feeling that all the songs are melodically very very similar.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 18 February 2005 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link

it's a shame 'little thoughts' isn't on the album, it's very poppy compared to their other stuff but it's probably my second favourite song of theirs too

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 18 February 2005 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, now they're saying it's "American Kids," a song which has appeared on the Bloc Party site in snippet form for the last year.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe I haven't given this album a fair hearing yet. But my initial reaction is yes it's OK but I really don't understand the massive hype these people are getting. Bloc Party is yet another retro rock band, not really advancing on what the post-punk bands of 25 years ago were doing.

TCB, Monday, 21 February 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to formally disown any comments made to Alex Macpherson suggesting I thought Bloc Party were good. I was wrong.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Bloc Party is yet another retro rock band, not really advancing on what the post-punk bands of 25 years ago were doing...except that being a contemporary interpretation of what was, Bloc Party's lyrics are more relevant to today's socio-political landscape and their production is glossier, cleaner, more dynamic.

nader (nader), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

The hidden track is three minutes of ambient guitar meandering and minimal piano - pretty is the word.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link

The Japanese CD has M83 and Four Tet remixes. That I downloaded yesterday. My Euro copy stops abruptly at 1m 20s of the last track (13). Is that how it should be?

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope they don't all abruptly stop at 1m 20s of "Compliments" - the Euro edition's on its way from Amazon UK. (That latter bit rhymed.)

Ain't Un-nice (nader), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

these guys KILLED when i saw them live on sunday. beyond that, i have no interest in hearing this album.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to formally disown any comments made to Alex Macpherson suggesting I thought Bloc Party were good. I was wrong.

Haaa ha! Those comments were slightly shocking, yes.

My housemate made me download the album for him, I tried listening to it and couldn't get past two songs.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually really like the first 3 songs or so, then it becomes a blur.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"The Japanese CD has M83 and Four Tet remixes."

Oh, jesus.... what would I have to do to get those emailed to me?!? Or maybe you could You Sent It them?..... .. . . . . oh, sweet bearded baby jesus.. .. . .

Bent Over at the Arclight, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Haaa ha! Those comments were slightly shocking, yes."

I blame hearing what is probably the best song on the album at exceedingly low volume at 6am in the morning and thinking it sounded a bit like Bows. A proper listen confirmed that it doesn't really, while the rest of the album seemed like the most pro forma recitation of current post-punk revival power-moves that I've yet heard.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Bows! Hey that reminds me Tim there's a new Music AM release about out, did you ever hear them? It was good to hear Luke Sutherland singing again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

What is it about these allegedly pro forma recitation[s] of current post-punk bands and artists that makes them so consistently and immediately polarizing and/or easily dismissed?

Is it the hype?

Is it because they're getting press when the artists from which their sound(s) derive(s) didn't tap into/have access to the marketing machines of yore?

nader (nader), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I ask because, for example, Interpol seems to (have) elicit(ed) similar streams of love and/or hate.

nader (nader), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link

For the record, I don't think they slot very neatly into the realm of rote repetition of post-punk moves, or anything. That's part of what I was trying to get at when I reviewed them: they seem to have a kind of Big Rock Band ambition that's a lot more modern, whereas bands like Interpol stick to the stripped-down eighth-note thing. Another way of putting this is that Bloc Party are more like late Bunnymen than early Bunnymen (I almost typed "Bummymen") -- they like to show you that they're good with their instruments, that they can write complicated little transitions, etc. It's almost a U2 quality. Part of it's just that, well, while most bands in this vein have to have guitars chugging along the chord sequence, Bloc Party can actually let the rhythm section carry everything and just use the guitars for complex color (always an Ambitious Rock move); most of it, though, comes in my opinion from their just being kind of unembarrassed about having Big Rock Band ambitions, as opposed to Stylish Scrappy Pop Group ones.

nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Nabisco here - what I hear in this record in an interest in texture and rhythm that's largely absent from most of their contemporaries. Listening to second half of Price of Gas or the build on So Here We Are, there's a sense of openness - I get the feeling that a record or two down the line other influences will seep in and take things on a different course, whereas I can't imagine The Strokes or Interpol ever making a record that deviates hugely from what they've already done.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

My problem with them is primarily that they make a fucking unlistenable tuneless racket.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 10:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm supposed to like them because they sound like late Bunnymen and U2?

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Will their (very surprising) number one album spark a backlash??

Or did the backlash already exist?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the whole early 80's rip off thing, and the album would be fine without that whining vocalist.

dmun, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Will their (very surprising) number one album spark a backlash?

It was number three...

JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I feel the same as Tim, I liked the single alot but having played the album in the shop a few times I find it a real racket.

I think I'll always hold up "Is This It" as a sort of yardstick for rock albums, of course because I am not really into rock, and it's a fantastic pop album really. Bloc Party for me come across a bit too right on or something with some of the lyrics and delivery, like "passionate" in that rock way, which doesn't do much for me.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link

hmm... i think that's the point

elwisty (elwisty), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 13:10 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the point and the problem both, is what I've been trying to say: they're good at traditional We Mean It grand-scale rock moves, but I'm no longer entirely sure who's content with traditional We Mean It grand-scale rock moves. I mean, I put something in my review about how there are still people complaining that Radiohead haven't been good since The Bends -- those are the people I can think of who'd be most enthralled by this record.

nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Am I really behind or has no one else not noticed that So Here We Are is very very similar to a couple of tracks off the last Explosions In The Sky album (except with vocals)?

elwisty (elwisty), Monday, 28 February 2005 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Those lyrics Nick quotes in his Stylus review...

“He’s born a liar / He’ll die a liar… / …he’s just like his dad / He’s just like his dad / Same mistakes / Some things will never be different… / …why can’t you be / More European?”

...are horrible. And I'm someone who's generally forgiving of bad or indifferent lyrics.

David A. (Davant), Monday, 28 February 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd never even connected those lyrics with Bush before reading that Stylus review.

Haha Ronan I think we have totally different preferences when it comes to guitar music - I like a bit of bombast to my indie rock. Part of the reason the likes of the Strokes never really clicked with me was because it all seemed a bit too neat and composed.

To be fair, I'm like that with all music - once dance music gets too dry and tidy I tend to lose interest, maybe that's why I've never appreciated the clickier end of microhouse for example.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 28 February 2005 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i am SO late to this party (ha ha) but i stayed away cause i really didn't think i'd care. anyway, add my name to the list of "banquet"s fans - it's one of the best indie rock singles in yonks.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

the Japanese release of the Little Thoughts EP is essential. other than "helicopter" it's all non-LP. both "little thoughts" and "tulips" are excellent, plus the b-side "skeleton" deserves a better audience too.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"My problem with them is primarily that they make a fucking unlistenable tuneless racket."

ON THE FUCKING MONEY

chris sallis, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I disagree. I enjoy listening to their tunes.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

People who think it's a tuneless racket and spend a majority of their time listening to 4/4 house/microhouse music, please step forward.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Fair enough sir. In all honesty though, they sound fucking appalling to my (presumably untutored) ears.

chris sallis, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they're pretty straightforward except for the drumming which is pretty dense. I also listen to a lot of 4/4 house/microhouse music.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"Banquet" is very good.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

johnny, if you can find me microhouse that has as much nasty screaming treble as bloc party then go ahead

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

like it

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 10 March 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i have never heard this band. but, yesterday, on the tube, someone had a bloc party belt on

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 10 March 2005 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

What's wrong with nasty screaming treble?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 March 2005 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i think this is aight actually. it is brash but quite a pained adrenaline too - there's something of a schoolboy's life-and-death-seeming adventure to it all, like kipling/ lord of the flies or even...

i'm gonna say IF....!! (even tho it doesnt quite fit) just to see cozen wince

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

also its funny everyone's all about the sonics when this is the first time for ages rock's really forced lyrics onto me

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Somewhat randomly I ended up getting drunk with them on Saturday night in one of these lowest common denominator indie places. They seemed like nice people and the singer was convinced that he'd been to a party at my house, so I let him carry on believing that. Girls kept going up and touching him, it was kind of creepy.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 14 March 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Then they touched you and it wasn't so creepy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i just stayed at home and touched myself

Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

When I think about you you touch yourself. Er, wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

find me microhouse that has as much nasty screaming treble

DJ Koze's remix of "Zu Dicht Dran" on Kompakt.100

nader (nader), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

There was a track by them on one of those Guardian free CDs. It was pretty ordinary and forgettable, I must admit.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

find me microhouse that has as much nasty screaming treble

"International Snootleg" by International Pony Vs. Losoul (feat. Malte)

nader (nader), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

they're the killers ILM says it's OK to like. or something.

they're just so painfully average. classic, dud ... either of these would be an improvement, to be honest. i'd say they were forgettable but i can't even remember.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it or isn't it premature to rate Bloc Party as C/D?

I realize that in the world of ILM there aren't many hard or fast rules, but a band with one album and a handful of EPs?

They get the C/D treatment?

Already?

Would the same have been done following the release of Radiohead's Pablo Honey or Daft Punk's Homework or the Jaxx Remedy?

I guess it's possible they too would have got it, what with so many itchy mouse buttons hovering over the "Submit" button. But I don't suppose it'd have made the judgment any less premature.

nader (nader), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I like them just to annoy zem.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it or isn't it premature to rate Bloc Party as C/D?

Perhaps. Especially considering I began this thread last April.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Nader - if a band has released one album and a handful of EPs then it is perfectly reasonably to judge them on the basis of those records. What they might do in the future is irrelevant FOR NOW. The next BP album might be terrible self-indulgent toss but it wouldn't have any bearing on the quality of Silent Alarm.

Radiohead are always the example that gets brought up in these circumstances and the people who do so are right in a way. But there's also a slightly annoying "well, its only their first record" line that gets trotted out by indie kids defending shit records. I mean, The Music might come up with a certified pop classic in two or three years but I doubt it.

Of course giving bands time to develop is a good thing, I just dislike it being used as an excuse.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

they make me think of placebo for some reason.

scg, Monday, 14 March 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I was going to disclaim my rhetorical question above with "this isn't a copout" b/c I figured giving [Bloc Party] time to develop [would be interpreted] as an excuse for erm, they're lack of development?

Perhaps I'm just being too literal here. It would seem the title "classic" would be reserved for bands that have had an opportunity to develop.

It's less an "excuse" for Bloc Pary and more a pursuit of accuracy in labeling.

Because, after all, what's a band or artist worth if we haven't pigeonholed them within one month of its first album's release?

nader (nader), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm cracked out on caffeine:

"they're lack" should be "their lack"

"pigeonholed them" should be "pigeonholed it"

nader (nader), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I was on my way out the door to go and finally pick up the proper American retail version of Silent Alarm, but I just saw a pic of it on Best Buy's website and the cover sports a Parental Advisory sticker. Do they just assign these things arbitrarily, or only when one of the songs bashes the current Presiden?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I quite like "Banquet", actually. Haven't heard the rest of the album as yet.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

They're about to appear on KCRW. 11:20am PST. kcrw.com

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

When lyrics like:

Why'd you have to get so hysterical?
Success, success, success is over
Why'd you have to get
So fucking useless

appear on your album you'll get an advisory sticker. The Bush Admin. and/or music industry have bigger fish (see Shiavo and P2P, respectively) to fry than lil' ol' Bloc Party.

nader (nader), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, the sticker was only on the picture on the Best Buy site. I didn't see one on the actual cd.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link

It's on the actual CD cover...ruins the cover, of course. I like this a great deal - just glad that out of the 30 or so tracks I'd d/l, the sequencing / tracklisting is good.

paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Bloc Party played all the best slots at SXSW. Expect total U.S. press domination very, very soon, particularly after M.I.A.'s record sputters out of the gate despite the ubiquitous hype.

Joe Blower (Mr Deeds), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Has "The O.C." picked up on them yet? Just a matter of time...

cdwill, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link

where are the songwriting credits? have those been phased out in favor of fbi anti-piracy warnings?

irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Why'd you have to get so hysterical?
Success, success, success is over
Why'd you have to get
So fucking useless

BLOC PARTY REVEALED AS SECRET EMO BAND

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

ha, i was listening to this yesterday, and thinking this is totally an emo record.

the leglo (the leglo), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

like, totally?

sneekycheeks (nader), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

In re: songwriting credits - I believe The Matrix writes most of their songs. But Kele writes the lyrics (whilst on the phone with Ben Gibbard).

sneekycheeks (nader), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

The "Banquet" video is almost painfully emo.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Their shoelaces even more so.

sneekycheeks (nader), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Emo done RIGHT. (Or at least righter.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

DUD

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Agreed. BritMo >>>> AmMo. I want to like Death Cab and listen to it lots. But I don't. Whereas I've had Silent Alarm on an iPod loop since my purchase a month ago [got me the un-stickered UK version].

sneekycheeks (nader), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Assuming I'm ready to concede that Bloc Party is emo.

Which I'm not.

sneekycheeks (nader), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Have we talked about how much the singer sounds like Damon Albarn?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahaha, man! That's a wondrous/frightening vision.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

obviously you guys have yet to hear the Dears.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

*searches* hmm, i was wrong

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Back to their alleged "ghost (song)writing" - the US version doesn't say "All songs written by Bloc Party" on the inside cover of the CD booklet like the UK version?

Perhaps there is no spoon.

sneekycheeks (nader), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The north american release's songs are not written by bloc party. Vice recs claims they're by dfa1979 with lyrics by mike skinner.

irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Dears sound quite different to me.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm only talking about the damon albarn-ness. which i don't even remotely hear in bloc party.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I just checked out Allmusic, and they claim the US version has remixes from M83, Mogwai and Four Tet, and drops "Little Thoughts," which is the first I've heard of it...is this true, or another case of Allmusic being bizarrely misinformed (like when they claimed that !!!'s Louden Up Now came with a bonus disc of clean radio mixes)?

Because if so, that's kind of awesome. I didn't like "Little Thoughts" much anyway, and if the M83 remix is half as bombastic as his stuff on Before the Dawn Heals Us it'll more than make up for the loss...

Telephonething, Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link

That's a mistake. The JP version has those remixes.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

little thoughts isn't on the album, either is tulips

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Little Thoughts is track 10 on the US version.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

is the US 14 tracks? or did they turf something else off?

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Nope, 14 tracks. Vice just threw "Little Thoughts" right into the middle of the album.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Well damn. At least there's a cheap domestic single for "Tulips" to slap together the "complete" Silent Alarm, as it were.

And in this month's Urb, they mention a remix album to be released later this year, so hopefully those mixes will be attainable (aside from the usual channels).

(for what it's worth, Sa-Ra mention in the same issue that they're at work on a Radiohead remix, but I'm too lazy to find the S-Ra thread...)

Telephonething, Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I put Banquet in the middle of a mix cd for a friend and she was wonder if the singer was "that guy from Blur." So Spencer definitely has some allies in that opinion.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 24 March 2005 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm fully willing to accept that I'm the victim of some horrible manipulation, but this is the first record I've listened to more than 2x in a row since Slanted and Enchanted. 5x in fact. And I didn't have the anticipation for it that I did for the Pavement after Perfect Sound Forever. I feel completely blindsided by this disc (in a good way), and I gave up trying to scrutinize it for cheesery around listen #3.

southern lights, Monday, 28 March 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

what a totally uncompelling band.

f--gg (gcannon), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i completely agree f--gg, nothing long lasting or interesting about these guys. when I first heard it I thought it sounded like a h ipster version of Blink 182

breezy, Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay, backlash!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not backlash if I never liked it! i've been hat'n on it from the beginning! hollah!

breezy, Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

"Banquet" is catchy enough. It's a good thing to hear on the radio.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought it sounded like a h ipster version of Blink 182

Hehe. My editor at the OC Weekly said the same thing, which leads me to think that the hipsters have it right. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Blink 182 have songs like This Modern Love or Pioneers?

Considering half of ILX has been totally down with The Busteds for some time now "its a bit like Blink 182" is not the best stick to beat them with.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

SO FUCKING EMO

drummers = rockist

jake b. (cerybut), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
i'm not really a fan, but at coachella everyone flocked to their set. the tent was COMPLETELY packed ot the point that no one else could fit in and started to sit on the oustide of the tent to listen. The crowd went ballistic unlike any of the other acts I saw - when the singer said clap, EVERYBODY clapped. It was pretty impressive.

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Sunday, 1 May 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

....having got the Futureheads and the Bloc Party at basically the same time (yeah yeah...behind the curve), I can't help but compare them:

Futureheads >>>>>>>> BP

That being said: Banquet is fucking great. But not quite as good as Carnival Kids or Hounds of Love

giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 1 May 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

they're hyped as being very well read, so i was disappointed to hear lyrics that could've been written by a 12y old. but this is an "emotional" band i suppose so the lyrics are imbued with an unthinking earnestness?

i do like this band, including the remixes (mogwai, four tet, m83) and almost all the b-sides. they just need time to mature to come up with a more varied, insightful follow up. so c/d too early to tell.

Aaron Ef. (aaron ef.), Monday, 2 May 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i do like this band, including the remixes (mogwai, four tet, m83)

Good lord, I'm even more sold, then. (Well except for Four Tet, they're just sorta there.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

NYC gave us Interpol
London gave us Bloc Party

Norway gives us: The Beautiful People

download tracks via this blog:
http://mysteryandmisery.com/article/420/the-beautiful-people

Listen to the track: "So This is Suicide"

already booked for the Sonar Festival and Reading Festival - The Beautiful People are my next big tip!

a wall of sound psychdelic guitars with effects, precision drumming, synths plus a vocalist with a strong passionate delivery.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 2 May 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
So yeah.. I really hated these guys for a good year or so, mainly because Kele Okkererelekek's voice was just really shrill and grating to me, but it's 'grown on me' (perhaps because it's been being shoved down my throat these passed few months? We shall never know), and I gave them another chance.. and I found that the guitarist is absolutey excellent.. sort of a Jonny Greenwood meets Robert Fripp meets J. Mascis sound. They're just really tight instrumentally.. I picked up the record a few days ago and it's all I've been listening to. So.. yeah.. it's a bit to early to say C/D, but they're off to a great start.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 23 May 2005 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I now no longer like Silent Alarm. Instead, I flat out love it to bits. More coherent thoughts on my return from Europe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Whiny whine...wino.
I like the Clap Hands Say Yeah lead singer, even when completely inarticulate, better than Bloc Party's lead. I haven't even listened to the whole album because I cannot get past the first few songs without sighing, "this is just a waste of time..." There are too many other good releases to linger on Bloc Party.

That said, the band could step it up on the next release. They're young enough to change. (Oh, one piece of advice, drop the "Hey...Hey...Heys" and that type shit, please.)

Did we beat this to death yet! I hope I've helped.

Meehan Ah Um (Meehan Ah Um), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Remix album due end of August, pretty good. Occasionally shows up Kele's voice though.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
new single ALERT!
"two more years". it was previewed on BBC last week (they say so on their web). did you hear it? did anybody grab it?
what the title means? do they want their stardom prevail 2 more yrs?

karl76 (karl76), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's terrible.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Not so into it on first listen.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

It's one of the year's best: the first of the postpunk influenced bands to get the parts right yet keep their own DNA intact.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Alfred's right. As good as BP was before, they've just leapfrogged themselves and all their peers.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
For some reason I just kept avoiding this release. Finally I decide to take the plunge. What a great cd it is! Definitely one of the best of 05.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 4 February 2006 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
it's september 2006 and I am STILL LOVING THIS ALBUM. much more staying power than I ever would've imagined.

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't the new one supposed to come out soon?

I appreciate the fact that they just keep touring, and am annoyed I missed the midsummer trip through LA due to previous commitments.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

wiki sez:

The band is currently putting the finishing touches to their second album, rumoured to be called A Weekend In The City. The album is due for release in February 2007, and is being produced by Jacknife Lee. In a recent interview, Kele Okereke revealed that the new album will be based around the theme of city life and will contain tracks titled 'Waiting For The 7.18', 'Uniform', 'Perfect Teens'(formerly Machine), 'England' (formerly Blue Moon) and 'Song For Clay' (formerly Merge On The Freeway). Whilst the band have also recorded 'Kreuzberg' and We Were Lovers (formerly Cells Shaped Like Stars), they may not appear on the new album.

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

(which, if all goes according to plan, I will be bumping this thread sometime in fall of 2008 to sing the praises of)

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I know they've been playing some of these new songs at shows, but I've consciously avoided hearing them in unfinished or poorly recorded states for fear of having my high hopes dashed.

2/2007 isn't too far away, though.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I tried to learn to like the album but I'm pretty sure there's nothing more to this band beyond "Banquet." Maybe if they could get their hands on some synthesizers I'd be sold.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, they did. They appear on various points on Silent Alarm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes but not nearly enough.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 20 September 2006 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

the icy strings (ugh cliche alert) on "Price of Gas" beg to differ

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

produced by Jacknife Lee

I really really really really really love the Jacknife Lee remix of Eminem's "Cleaning Out My Closet", but this virtually guarantees that this album is going to suck ass. Bloc Party do not need to be coaxed and massaged into sounding MORE like recent U2.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

it took seeing them play live for me to really begin to appreciate them and the album......looking forward to feb. 07

drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"Price of Gas" is probably my second fave but it's still underwhelming.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 20 September 2006 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Jacknife Lee is a murderer.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:39 (seventeen years ago) link

my rubbish high school band sacked k3l3 for being rubbish

funny how things turn out eh

The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i assumed this was a totally shitty run-of-the-mill british indie guitar band but then i heard the first track and it is fucking amazing! "banquet" does nothing to me but man, that first song - and "modern love". brilliant. the drumming's fantastic.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
A Weekend in the City is "out there" now (albeit in a low-qual 128-ish rip). Will take some time to digest, but I'm really liking it initially. More trickery with the guitar sonics going on, rhythm section as active as ever. The melodies and vocals could be a little sharper/catchy maybe, but I'm sure they'll sink in upon repeated listens.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Is "Waiting for the 718" any hookier in a non-shitty-crowd-recording version?

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Who knows, I've consciously been avoiding the live recordings. It's not my favorite of the new songs, though.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how 128kB/s is now being called low quality.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

It should be. People should have higher standards

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn right.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i think bloc party would be better if their singer didnt sound so dreary/wimpy/emo all the time. thats probably what makes them more interesting and commercially viable these days - that they have a post-coldplay-type of singer but the rhythm section is the opposite but still...

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Last year, driving in the car with a friend:

Me: (plays the CD by The Dears)
He: hey, this is nice!
Later:
Me: (plays the CD by Bloc Party)
He: hey, this is nice too!
Halfway through the CD:
He: do you only like singers who want to be Robert Smith?

:-/

StanM (StanM), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow it's a bit Muse (the new one)

Nedpoleon (NedBeauman), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

all right only the first track

Nedpoleon (NedBeauman), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Phew

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

ha

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just found a version of Silent Alarm online that consists of only the instrumental versions of all the songs on the album. OMG, it might even be better music without Kele singing on top of it!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 11 January 2007 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

who's pr-ing this in the uk?
ta

dh (djh), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Downloaded the new album based on hopes that all the Ligeti & Radiohead blabbering would actually translate to the music, but no. This is comically awful.

Turangalila (Salvador), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

haha my first comment on this thread seems like a lifetime ago

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I was really into Silent Alarm and this new record isn't doing shit for me.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno about PR specifically but Coalition do their management.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 12 January 2007 09:06 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks

dh (djh), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

FITE - John Lydon v Kele Okereke

Upt0eleven, Monday, 21 July 2008 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link

YSI?

Oh, it's not a collaboration. Nevermind.

StanM, Monday, 21 July 2008 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link

He should have known bad luck was coming, what with his Mercury being in retrograde.

Raw Patrick, Monday, 21 July 2008 12:03 (fifteen years ago) link

BREAKING NEWS: John Lydon is an unapproachable cunt.

HI DERE, Monday, 21 July 2008 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

while Ricky Wilson of Kaiser Chiefs and Yannis Philippakis of Foals attempted to fend off the attacker

Tragic and deplorable and all that, but this bit makes me lol.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Monday, 21 July 2008 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Yannis? This Yannis?

http://www.ng-magazine.com/_images/thumbs/foalsy2_266x400.jpg

R.I.P. Yannis.

StanM, Monday, 21 July 2008 12:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Funny how DiS misses out several key words from the account, which mysteriously appear in the equivalent NME piece, including "his entourage" (who made the alleged remarks) and "three of Lydon's associates" with whom the fight actually appears to have been fought.

As opposed to Lydon saying or doing any of these things himself, you understand.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 21 July 2008 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Granted, but Lydon probably had the power to put a stop to things before they turned physical - which is pretty deplorable in and of itself. Not to be captain save a Bloc Party, but this is pretty disgusting no matter what level of involvement Mr. Lydon had.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

and as I said on the other thread, Kele's quote seems to implicate J.Lydon directly.

Of course, him being a major star and all that (not sarc), he's going to get approached by people all the time. Especially in a public area like this.

Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, god, wanting to ask him about a PIL reformation? Even though JLydon answered that question in a recent interview.

Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"the band the Pistols could've been"

CharlieNo4, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

From DiS comments box

The 'black attitude' comment is also a brush to tar him with.

DJ Mencap, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Then Lydon should sue his arse off (xxp).

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Wow, I was really excitable in 2004. In fairness, 2004/05 were the good Bloc Party years, as I can't imagine ever being this excited about them again.

Yes, I'm reviving threads I started to ridicule myself.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 March 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link

early singles, silent alarm and "two more years" are unmitigated classics

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 March 2009 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah silent alarm is unfuckwithable imo

been HOOS, where yyyou steene!? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 7 March 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

REAL TALK

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 March 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Intimacy was fantastic as well, just not on SA's level.

Josh L, Saturday, 7 March 2009 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone else going to their chicago show the 28?

the chicano incarnation of benito juarez (primalfixations), Saturday, 7 March 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Bloc Party guitarist bitten by lion

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 1 October 2010 09:13 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://www.nme.com/news/bloc-party/59460?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Lol. With the exception of AC/DC, has rebooting a band with a different singer ever worked?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

Black Sabbath.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:35 (twelve years ago) link

Genesis

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:36 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't read the story btw, NME pages seem to take about 20 mins to load some days.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

Also they still haven't corrected the spelling of 'will' in the headline. Fucking idiots.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

In any case, it would seem they aren't going to be called "Bloc Party"

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

Bloc Party frontman Kele Okereke has admitted he is unsure of his future in the band after the rest of the group went into the recording studio without telling him.

The singer has told NME he recently spotted guitarist Russell Lissack, bassist Gordon Moakes and drummer Matt Tong outside a rehearsal studio in New York and he wasn't even invited to take part in the sessions.

"I was actually having lunch about three weeks ago, just here on 8th Avenue and I saw somebody walk past and I recognised the haircut," he said. "It was Russell. I was like, 'Hey!' but he didn't see me and I followed him around the corner and then I saw Matt, Gordon and Russell all standing outside this rehearsal space. They all went inside."

He added: "I hope I haven't been fired. I don't really know what's going on, because we haven't really spoken recently and I'm a bit too scared to ask."

This is weird. Just talk to the band, you big goose.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

manager Simon White on twitter now saying it's all bollocks.

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

Man Bloc Party fell hard and fast, but I still love the debut album and a couple scattered songs from the next two albums. I can't see this being a good idea at all.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

this is weird...

my only hope is that they go back to being more of a rock band? all the electronic & dance stuff they tried to do -- and i think a lot of it was kele's lead, tho i'm speculating -- was sort of noble at the time but it never really fit for them. kele didn't know how to write interesting or good songs of that nature.

that said the band is so much about him at the forefront that having a new vocalist really wouldn't even be the same band

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

also weird that they went behind his back to record/to nme to announce they're looking for a new singer but he also didn't even bother to call them?? fucking people

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

"i still remember" has aged really well for me, sorta wish that they'd gone the route of kings of leon & tried to sell out with stadium pop-rock stuff than try and become a rock band that is cool for dance fans to like

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

J0rdan pretty much otm on all counts

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

y'all

UPDATE: Bloc Party's camp have told us that, despite reports, Kele is not being kicked out of Bloc Party. A post on the band's website claims that "Bloc Party is still Bloc Party," with a cartoon of the band drawn up as characters from "The Simpsons" and a promise to "see you soon."

http://pitchfork.com/news/44139-bloc-party-kicks-out-kele-okereke/

markers, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

cool, i hope they go back to writing rock songs

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

I do have to admit that one thing I miss from the "old days" was having to wait until a new promo cycle came around to find out if all of the wild break-up rumors flying around were true or not. Not as much fun when they get debunked within hours.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

They tried to follow a Radiohead route and tried way too hard I think, electronic influences, useless state-of-the nation lyrical clangers. Neither they nor their producers were talented enough to pull it off. If ever a band needed an editor.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

http://blog.yellowbirdproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/the-editors.jpg

"You rang?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

No, no I didn't. Please get off my porch you lot.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

They tried to follow a Radiohead route and tried way too hard I think, electronic influences, useless state-of-the nation lyrical clangers.

^^ why I lost interest in the first album. Their weaknesses were their strengths too: all that racket made political and musical sense in 2005 (lots of good memories dancing to "Banquet" and quoting "Price of Gas" in another record review) but when they became better record makers they eliminated that beguiling vagueness.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

*why I lost interest AFTER the first album.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

I'd also say: "They tried way too hard to think."

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

otm

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/news/bloc-party/59460?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Lol. With the exception of AC/DC, has rebooting a band with a different singer ever worked?

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:28 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

New Order?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

Seems to have worked reasonably well for Alice in Chains so far.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

Alice in Chains have been going at some point since 1993?

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

They just released a new album in 2009 with a new lead singer, seems to have been pretty well reviewed too.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

http://www.thefader.com/2012/01/03/bloc-party-confirms-reunion-new-album/

In an interview with the BBC’s Zane Lowe, Bloc Party lead singer, Kele Okereke confirmed that the band is back in tact and will be recording a new album in 2012. Fans were never given concrete reasons for the band’s shaky future, but can now look forward to a new year with new material, the first since 2008′s Intimacy.

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This is cool and all, but based on Kele's solo tracks and the fact that Intimacy was pretty lame, I'm not sure I care anymore.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

Hoping this is a return to their earlier spirit, also. Get out of Matt Tong's way and scuff up the production as stated above.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

these guys went downhill so fast :( that debut album is still a cracker though

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I listened to 'Silent Alarm' the other day and quite enjoyed it. Not only that, but it made the flaws of their other albums more apparent... two things that I always find appealing about the first Bloc Party album is the frantic drumming and the guitar sound. It definitely has the most 'tolerable' lyrical content of all their albums too... not smacking you around the head with clunky lyrics about eating foie gras with complete disdain or taking ones watch off before one makes love.

Turrican, Saturday, 7 January 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s4M5EqOGsMA

this video has some clips of new music. it sounds lush... and warm, a key ingredient whose absence did a lot to spoil intimacy.

phantompenguin, Friday, 1 June 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link

New album is imaginatively titled Four. It is their fourth.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 1 June 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

the last two albums were definitely cold and stiff and just very rudimentary in their experimentations

BUT kele's lyrics also went way the fuck off the rails in an embarrassing way. his vocals sorta, too. so, we'll see.

fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link

haha

would it be better or worse had they titled it Nine

mookieproof, Friday, 1 June 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link

One of the clips of new material in that youtube sounds very Smashing Pumpkins.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 June 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

i thought that too! i was even confused at first and then i realized oh it really is a bloc party song.

phantompenguin, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:47 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

Ha this is great -- so I was scrounging through my old Suede fan club newsletters (as one does) and in the 'Swap That Shop' section of issue 14, winter 1997:

Kele Okereke, [with his then-address, as opposed to now, presumably], Manor Park, London

Original and very talented vocal-lyricist seeks guitar genius (Marr, Oakes, Butler) to write beautiful art rock. NOT a Suede tribute band; original and dynamic! 100% committed, real music head, style and image also. London area, willing to travel. Contact me after 5 pm on [phone number]. "Let's make it beautiful!"

As well as a musical partner, I'm also searching for various Suede bits. I'm desperately seeking copies of the promo videos to "Drowners" UK version, "New Generation," "We Are the Pigs," "Trash" and "Beautiful Ones." I'm also after copies of all the unreleased tracks: "Be My God," "Art" and "Wonderful Sometimes," as well as any decent live recordings of "Stay Together" and Richard playing "He's Dead." Any articles and posters are also most welcome.

I have a signed Suede CD and a signed (Bernard) "Stay Together" and also Bernard's black plectrum. I'm willing to pay for postage and packaging and for your services.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 September 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

He would have sent that in when he was all of fifteen!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 September 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

that's awesome, ned

J0rdan S., Sunday, 16 September 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

Okereke responded critically to comments made by Liam and Noel Gallagher of Oasis in early 2007. Liam called Bloc Party "A band off of University Challenge", while Noel dismissed them as "indie shit". In retaliation, Okereke stated, "I think Oasis are the most overrated and pernicious band of all time. They had a totally negative and dangerous impact upon the state of British music. They have made stupidity hip. They claim to be inspired by The Beatles but, and this saddens me, they have failed to grasp that The Beatles were about constant change and evolution. Oasis are repetitive Luddites."[17] Ironically, when Oasis cancelled their headlining set at the Rock-en-Seine festival near Paris in August 2009 (the concert where the Gallagher brothers clashed backstage, which resulted in Oasis splitting up), it was Okereke who announced to the crowd that Oasis had cancelled their slot and dedicated their track "Mercury" to the Oasis fans in the crowd, referring to the Gallagher brothers as "those inbred twins." [18]

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 16 September 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

There was a shorter note in the next fanclub issue where he was asking to see if someone wanted to edit a fanzine, kinda fun.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 September 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

Kele otm about Oasis.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 16 September 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, that's such a great find!!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 16 September 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

kele needs to zing oasis using fewer syllables tbh

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 September 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

why?

Mark G, Monday, 17 September 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link

so oasis can understand duh

lex pretend, Monday, 17 September 2012 08:39 (eleven years ago) link

fair enough.

Mark G, Monday, 17 September 2012 08:58 (eleven years ago) link

i've got a copy of the zine he used to do at school if anyone's interested, iirc it's stuff about how the longpigs were great and oasis are rubbish, plus some stuff about my high school band that he was desperate to join but we wouldn't let him in haha who's laughing now eh oh wait

DG, Monday, 17 September 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

Haha amazing. Was it called Noir by any chance?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 September 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

yes that's it, i was going to see how much i could get for it on ebay but never got round to it. it is, er, 'not great'

kinda weird that a dude that lives on the other side of the world has a window into my adolescence eh

DG, Monday, 17 September 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

This is why I'm glad my own adolescence is safely in the memory hole.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 September 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

very wise!

anyway i always knew the guy would make it in the industry somehow but i reckoned on him being some record company apparatchik, not what has actually turned out :(

DG, Monday, 17 September 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

they are kind of 'heavy' now

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 October 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

heavier than a death of a hamster in the family

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

So Intimacy has grown on me a whole lot! I've heard they're working on a new record, I'm hoping it'll be stylistically more like Intimacy rather than Four.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Sunday, 21 December 2014 11:13 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

this song is so bad

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

oh they apparently shed their drummer and bassist, nothing to see here lol

incontrovertible proof as to why you should never go full Maroon 5

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 12 October 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

Yup, I've heard this already and indeed it is truly woeful.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

the new bassist is from menomena im pretty sure

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

Matt Tong was always Bloc Party's mvp. Now he plays with Algiers, so he knows what's up.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

There was a live set of theirs broadcast on the BBC Red Button only a couple of nights ago and showcasing the new line-up ('Bloc Party MKII', as Kele referred to it), and it was like watching a car crash pretty much. Really awful renditions of the older songs mixed with new material which felt completely sub-par. The new drummer replicated the old drummer's parts faithfully, and Kele looked as if he'd been working out a lot (he seems to be twice the size he was only a few years back) but there was really no sense of the new members actually giving the band a shot in the arm or a renewed sense of purpose or anything. It just felt like (and to me, was) Bloc Party doing Bloc Party badly with 50% of the original line-up, with Okereke dominating as per usual. I just wondered why they were even doing it, given that Kele has a solo career. Personnel wise, I can see them turning into The Smashing Pumpkins, with a revolving door of people coming and going with Kele Okereke dominating. Thing is, though, at least The Smashing Pumpkins can still make decent music.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

It's genuinely astonishing how bad they are. It's not like I ever want to put the first album on any more but every subsequent record is just full of these comically terrible musical and lyrical decisions.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

The Smashing Pumpkins can still make decent music.

Let's not get carried away.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

I still think Intimacy is an underrated record, though, and probably their best after Silent Alarm - 'Signs' is one of the best things they ever did, IMO.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

Let's not get carried away.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, October 12, 2015 7:06 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not! I thought Oceania was the best Pumpkins record for a very long time. I didn't like Zeitgeist and I wasn't fond of the last one, but Oceania at least showed that Billy could still come up with the goods when he wanted to.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

This new Bloc Party track, though: dreadful. It doesn't seem to be much of a song to begin with, but I can't listen to that sliding synth part with a straight face at all. It sounds like someone who has never used a synth before getting off on just hammering the keys and playing with the pitch wheel and thinking "yeah, this sounds fucking great!" - No, no it does not.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

Well, to be fair, that description would fit a lot of the very best synth music. But yeah, this song is pretty dreadful.

Frederik B, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

i think the second album is underrated & really if you think about, like, the 1975 and years & years was pretty ahead of its time in some respects as far as british pop/rock goes

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

('Bloc Party MKII', as Kele referred to it)

Please tell me he went all out and threw in a 'hope you like our new direction' comment on top of that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 October 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

Relistened to Four yesterday and it sounded better than I remember. This, though...yikes.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 12 October 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

xpost:

Sadly not, although there was a bit of an awkward interview segment in the middle if I remember, where there were, I guess, meant to be questions from the audience, but only one audience member got to ask a question which was "which is your favourite Bloc Party song to perform live?" ... and Kele was all like "well, I guess it would be different for all of us", and thus went around the stage with the mic asking everyone on the stage what their favourite Bloc Party song was to perform live. It seemed like he was very keen to present the new line-up as a healthy, democratic unit. I think one of 'em said "I can't wait to perform the new stuff live" and Kele said "exciting times" with all the excitement of someone who wasn't particularly excited.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link

There was a trio of backing singers onstage too, if I remember.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

I like this, it sounds a bit like some late 60s proto prog thing like Egg or Caravan?

strictly dream-bait fit for moon-gazing (soref), Monday, 12 October 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, they are stuck between not being a 'heritage' act reuniting, and also not being a current hit band back after a sabbatical.

It wouldn't matter if the new album was a cough cough NEWORDER cough cough excuse me style return to form, the genpub kinda care how cold you are..

Mark G, Monday, 12 October 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

has there ever been a band so completely unaware of their own strengths or so keen to avoid them

ufo, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 04:16 (eight years ago) link

this sounds so hilariously terrible on first listen that i really want to know what their thinking was behind it

Haino Corrida (NickB), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 09:14 (eight years ago) link

i think the second album is underrated & really if you think about, like, the 1975 and years & years was pretty ahead of its time in some respects as far as british pop/rock goes

It's... nothing like those acts though?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 09:20 (eight years ago) link

Shit this is bad.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 09:51 (eight years ago) link

I loved that first album so much ten years ago (ten years!). And pretty much everything since has been disappointing, if not outright risible.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 09:51 (eight years ago) link

there's a vague similarity in terms of ambitions between A Weekend in the City and the 1975 i guess but the 1975 are more successful with it

ufo, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 09:58 (eight years ago) link

"cain said to abel" is prob my fav bloc party song and i have no idea why it's a b-side, lots of miscalculation in this band's post-silent alarm career

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 13:26 (eight years ago) link

Matt Tong was always Bloc Party's mvp. Now he plays with Algiers, so he knows what's up.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:00 (2 days ago) Permalink

Completely agree re: Matt's drumming, and was wondering where he'd show up. Thanks for that.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Tong's drumming was one of the main reasons I became so enthusiastic about this band circa Silent Alarm. I recall hearing 'So Here We Are' for the first time, and thought that it was wonderful how the intro suggested that the track was going to be a certain way rhythmically, and then the drums kicked in and immediately changed the vibe of the whole track. I haven't listened to 'So Here We Are' for a long while, but just thinking about it, and then comparing it to that new track posted above, the gulf in quality between the two is beyond vast.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

Completely agree re: Matt's drumming, and was wondering where he'd show up. Thanks for that.

the algiers album came out this year and is extremely good fyi

Haino Corrida (NickB), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

Matt doesn't drum on the album I think: he plays live with them. Assume he'll be on the next record.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link

When I saw BP on the Silent Alarm tour his drumming was the highlight. Just nuts.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah, he joined after the album. Should be fun to see them live going forward, though.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox68svCfm8k

If you thought The Love Within was bad, just wait until you hear this heap of dogshit.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 4 December 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

Intro reminded me of Daft Punk's Instant Crush without all the good parts and then devolved into generic rubbish. What the heck happened to these guys? I was really pumped on their debut. Do they need more drugs or do they need to quit them or something?

octobeard, Friday, 4 December 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link

What happened is their rhythm section bailed out and now Kele is making Russell stay and play guitar on his terrible new songs.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 4 December 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Jesus fucking christ, this new album is beyond terrible... fucking hell!

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 21:53 (eight years ago) link

'Fortress' may just be one of Kele's most cringeworthy set of lyrics to date...

These sheets of ours shield our bodies like a fortress
They keep us safe from harm
Intertwined, our bodies lay there like a comma
The arch of your back invites desire
We put our bodies to the test
Follow the curve right down your neck
Your sweet, my sweat stuck in a web
And in the mirror, you relent
It's teasing me with every step
Reach down and feel how strong my love grows just for you

Pull me under, under the ocean
Cover my mouth with yours
Put it on me like no one's watching
Like it's the first time
And on the street, our bodies ache for one another
I just can't wait 'til we're alone, mmm mmm

And I'm a fool for the sight of all the gold between your thights
You still the sea that's stirring deep in me
Make your base right here, next to me
As our notes blend in harmony
And when we sex, we hear the beat
And it's so serene

Pull me under, under the ocean
Cover my mouth with yours
Put it on me like no one's watching
Like it's the first time
And if you're hungry, devour your morsel
Cover my mouth with yours
Put it one me like no one's watching
Like it's the first time
Pull me under, under the ocean
Cover my mouth with yours
Put it on me like no one's watching
Like it's the first time we kissed

^ Farking hell!

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link

*thights=thighs.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

Shit, he's used a "fungi"/"fun guy" pun in another song. No, really!

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

This fennel tea that you bought for me
Well, it does its magic discretely
I wrote this song for you, it's true
In our only south facing room
See, I don't know what the future holds
But I hope we face it together
Cause rock and roll has got so old
Just give me neo-soul

[Chorus]
Into the earth, our bodies will go
We got to keep it all fluid
Into the earth, our bodies will go
You're gonna keep me good-looking

[Verse 2]
You've seen the colour of my cash
Does it not impress? Was I way too flash?
Are you backing away
From me?
Calm down, Yoshi, the fungi
Is helping this fun-guy deliver
When I get high, I dance all night
I'll sing you Al Green songs
I'm just trying to gently blur the lines
With my trusty sensimilia
Don't be so jaded or so coy
When you could just be familiar

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

Shirtless and faded on the Champs-Élysées
The world was ours then
I had conviction, but you, you had style
Such a lethal combination
The years changed us, the money weighed us down
We lost our way
Let me spoil you, pick a place to go
I want to spend my money on you

And don't you remember
How this began?
You begged me for a chance
Don't waste your sorry
No, don't waste your goodbyes
Tonight
From hand to mouth and now
We're living lux

I order the lobster, and you, the Moët
The waitress thinks that we can't pay, no
What does she know? Our pockets are full-grown
And we've earned the right to fine dine
So raise your glass, my old friend
For we both know that this is the end
For the times we fought and the times we shared
I'll sing you a song the way I used to then

Don't you remember
How this began?
You begged me for a chance
Don't waste your sorry
No, don't waste your goodbyes
Tonight
From hand to mouth and now
We're living lux
We're living lux

............

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

ok i wasn't even going to listen to this but y'all convinced me

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

:D

ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

it sucks bc at least half of four is great imo

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link

In terms of the sheer gulf between aspiration and achivement he is probably the single worst British lyricist of the last decade, and that's really saying something.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link

OK I'm listening to the whole thing now, skipping the first song which we all already know is dogshit.

Why. Does. He. Feel. The. Need. To. Stop. Bet. Ween. Eve. Ry. Syll. A. Ble. He. Sings?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:47 (eight years ago) link

It was bad enough when he stole an unreleased Richey Manic line for 'Where Is Home?' ("I want to cut off the feet off every ballerina") or the "eat your cancer" line from 'Heart Shaped Box'... on this one, he steals/rearranges the "we take the pills to find each other" line from Suede's 'New Generation'

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link

I'm on track three and it's like this is supposed to be some sort of Jamie Woon-James Blake coffee table dubsoul thing, but he doesn't have voice of the former and the even rudimentary production skills of the latter.

Fourth track is the sort of clumpy midpaced twangy rocker that you expect from bands with no ideas left.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

Every day is a repeat
Like a carrier bag stuck in a tree
I used to find my answers
In the gospels of St. John
But now I find them at the bottom
Of this shot glass

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

"so real" is ok

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

"the good news" is like who invited this band to become black rebel motorcycle club

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

The music to Fortress is even worse than the lyrics, unsurprising limp dick James Blake sex-ballad.

Also Kele Okerere is a man in his mid-30s using 'sex' as a verb.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

wow i could be listening to the entire years & years album instead of "fortress"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:56 (eight years ago) link

Different Drugs is actually... pretty good, in that I've not found myself immediately compelled to turn it off. Would be way better with Katy or Jessie singing it obviously, and sometimes you really do need to ditch the drummer. I like the bit where he sings "do you still think of me fondly?" like he's addressing some maiden aunt he never really sees.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

"different drugs" IS good. would've fit on a weekend in the city

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

Into The Earth reminds me of something, wacky 1999-ish West Coast types in Hawaiian shirts/too baggy trousers/stupid thick ties. Or maybe just the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link

jeez it's kinda stunning how much "different drugs" towers over everything else i've heard on this record

i think i'd have preferred it if this record were entirely bad tbh

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link

didn't need a brief glimpse of kele's few remaining good sensibilities

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

Shitting hell quoting Robyn S like that is just indefensible.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link

This sounds like the kind of record a band releases before they finally admit the game is up and piss off.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

I order the lobster, and you, the Moët
The waitress thinks that we can't pay, no
What does she know? Our pockets are full-grown
And we've earned the right to fine dine

The rhyme of Moet with pay is worthy of Rakim in his prime.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

The music got too shit for me to possibly carry on but I cannot imagine any record company agreeing to release that if it hadn't come from a band who have already sold however many million albums.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link

Yup, totally agree. This is quite comfortably the worst new album I've heard so far this year, actually... I know we're only a couple of months in, but still!

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link

i always thought BP the band were better than kele on the whole. but these lyrics really make me want to listen to the new one.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link

New single played on 6music as we drove to work. As it finished Em said simply "That was shit. What happened to them?"

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 10:38 (eight years ago) link

this might all explain is why kele looks so unhappy/pissed off in all their recent publicity shots.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 10:55 (eight years ago) link

He is also now absolutely MASSIVE, like he's been pumping steroids and sacks of satsumas straight into his muscles. I'm always slightly suspicious of people who bulk up like that.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 11:05 (eight years ago) link

he sounded like hes been having a bit of an ongoing personal/identity crisis in that NME interview, which might be related to his new beefiness.

i think different drugs is meant to be his unfinished symphony, the phrasing is very similar to shara nelson.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 11:16 (eight years ago) link

fortress is good actually. prob his best, most tender singing on this album from what ive heard so far (im not really listening to the lyrics, which might help). its a tiny bit like fka twigs' closer. is his solo stuff like this? i think i might like it more than the BP album if so.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 11:42 (eight years ago) link

the other guy from the original line up has gone kind beefy as well, he used to be a super-scrawny pencil neck indie kid

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b3gDjVR8bTc/UPkLaq983RI/AAAAAAAAFu8/NfSF2KFBEjg/s400/2+Bloc+straight+cream.jpg

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/news/59763/a6d59e64.jpg

(he's the one on the far right in both pictures)

soref, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

wait, second from the right in the first picture

soref, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcEsqSr0jG0

Oh ffs what even is this band anymore

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 04:18 (seven years ago) link

A band that's completely over, yet they still keep on going...

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Any thoughts on Kele's _Fatherland_? Has a real nice streak from tracks 6-10 (less 7). "Yemaya", track 6, has a Shack musical vibe that I love, but it's also very much the album's highpoint for me, though the track with Corinne Bailey Rae (# 8, "Versions of Us") is lovely.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

there you go-go
looking like a snack
cute like bambi
meet me in the boom boom room

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

intimacy sounds great today

ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:46 (seven months ago) link

Their best

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:46 (seven months ago) link

fuck, are you right????

ivy., Sunday, 10 September 2023 05:14 (seven months ago) link

no way!!! half is good-to-great but the other half is mediocre-to-'wtf were they thinking'

ufo, Sunday, 10 September 2023 07:46 (seven months ago) link

Could barely make it through one listen of this album. Such a huge fall off from Silent Alarm to Weekend in the City to this

Vinnie, Sunday, 10 September 2023 13:04 (seven months ago) link

possible that "talons," "better than heaven," and "ion square" (plus "letter to my son") are tricking me into thinking this but... those songs are sooooo good

ivy., Sunday, 10 September 2023 13:47 (seven months ago) link

yeah those tracks (and "trojan horse" and "signs") are all very good but still like, what the fuck is "mercury", what the fuck is "ares", why does "one month off" sound like a very weird remix of "banquet" and so on

ufo, Sunday, 10 September 2023 14:00 (seven months ago) link

Ares and Mercury <3

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 10 September 2023 14:03 (seven months ago) link

Setting Sun and Peek-a-Boo getting on very well in the late summer heat.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 10 September 2023 14:04 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

you get sadder
the smarter you get
and it's a bore

ivy., Monday, 12 February 2024 05:04 (two months ago) link

intimacy really became one of my favorite albums of all time in the last five months, lol

ivy., Monday, 12 February 2024 05:06 (two months ago) link

wild that you bumped this today! I was thinking about and listening to Bloc Party yesterday

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 12 February 2024 15:32 (two months ago) link

i think i've restated a million times itt why post-silent alarm bloc party doesn't "work" for me on the same level as silent alarm only to develop special and personal relationships with all of those records*. even four, which has no cohesion whatsoever but the songs are still really good

i listened to intimacy probably two or three times in college and found it hard to get past the brash and dissonant opening (i also think i heard it before "talons" was added to the tracklist, so crucial to the album's functioning), but now i love those songs, especially "ares," which seems to be running off the fumes of the apocalyptic stakes from weekend in the city, exuding so much cultural exhaustion there's nothing to do but to retreat into the interpersonal and intimate, thus the rest of the record. they also do such a good job of staking out the sonic parameters of the record, recognizably bloc party but manipulated and fragmented by machines, just as machines mediate the relationships that form and dissolve over the course of the record — i'm not sure any of the lyrics support this suggestion but the overwhelming vibe of the record to me is "sneaking a glance at your partner's texts and finding out more than you bargained for"

*og lineup only, tho who can say, can't see it happening but maybe catch me in five years repping hymns lol

ivy., Monday, 12 February 2024 16:05 (two months ago) link


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