FELT (Go Kart Mozart, Denim)... Lawrence is amazing!

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FELT (Go Kart Mozart, Denim)... Lawrence is amazing!

I just had to let that out... also.. I am looking for a copy of Forever Breathes The Lonely Word on CD.. anyone?

Todd E. Jones tejones@kforce.com

Todd E. Jones, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i was disappointed with the go-kart mozart album, nice sleeve design (check the martin parr boring postcard bull ring), but found it rather flat. denim i remember being ok though. i have a pink felt cd, i cant remember it though. i'll play it tonight

gareth, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sounds like you've got Bubblegum Perfume, Gareth - the Creation round- up. If it turns out you play it tonight and don't think much to it, I'll be only too willing to take it off your hands for a good price. Let me know!

Dr. C, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

desperate to get denim 'on ice' the song 'it fell off the back of a lorry' is one of the best songs i have ever heard.

ambrose, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I love Felt (but have no records) [my bid for indie-country crossover stardom starts right there]. The albums are great, and they're pretty high up on my 'must buy' list, but I haven't actually seen them anywhere for ages...

I have Back In Denim, which is ace ("in the seventies there were Osmonds, there were lots of little Osmonds..."), but I got pissed off with the singles from 'On Ice' and never bought it.

Also have the Go-Kart Mozart album, which is patchy (but I forgive it everything for name-checking Poing by the Rotterdam Termination Source).

emil.y, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Felt albums on cd are very difficult to find, in my experience.

Nicole, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

'Denim On Ice' almost a permanent fixture in the bargain basement of the NNG R+T (and no doubt many other similar establishments.)My fave Denim track - 'We Are The New Potatoes' from their 'Novelty Rock' EP.

Jane Suck died in 77....

Andrew L, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ER nHg (Notting Hill Gate)

Andrew L, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

'Denim On Ice' almost a permanent fixture in the bargain basement of the NNG R+T (and no doubt many other similar establishments.)My fave Denim track - 'We Are The New Potatoes' from their 'Novelty Rock' EP.

I wish that were the case in the states -- I finally had to have someone burn me a copy (thanks fernando!).

Nicole, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I forgive it everything for name-checking Poing by the Rotterdam Termination Source

isn't that just a rehash of namechecking Ravesignal III (and where did it all go wrong CJ?)

gareth, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nicole, the Cherry red albums are all still available on CD, on for example Amazon.co.uk. The Creation ones are out-of-print, I think, but GEMM.com has loads of them.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thanks for the tip! That's what I get for just checking record shops.

Nicole, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have got "Absolute Classic Masterpieces" which is a kind of best of. Quite nice to listen to. The best track is the one with Liz Fraser if I remember well. Felt is a little bit a myth I feel. They sound like an amateurish band. Which can be charming. But one record in my collection is definitely enough.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Felt was great, but it seemed like it was fronted by a man who mainly provided the background. Maurice Deebank.. now that's an amazing guitarist. As was Martin Duffy on keys.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mick Bund was also in Felt for a while. Whatever happened to Maurice Deebank...one of my favourite guitarists of all time (I might even say "favourite of all time" were it not for Vini Reilly). The strangest Felt album has got to be "Train Across the City" - all instrumentals, Lawrence isn't on it! Some of the tracks are pretty good though. My favourite is "Spectral Morning".

MarkH, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They dropped MD off after a gig and never bothered to get in touch again, is what I heard.

He surfaced on a St. Ettiene track "Paper" which he co-wrote. I don't know which album or single this track was originally on, but it's on the Smash the System comp.

I prefer Deebank-era Felt to Duffy-era Felt, although I'm not fond of MD's florid classical-style playing. They sound best when he's kept on a tight leash e.g Penelope Tree or Mexican Bandits. "Crumbling the Antiseptic Beauty", the debut, is a classic, and it's downhill from there IMHO.

Dr. C, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's a shame Maurice Deebank hasn't done more since Felt, his guitar playing was so unique -- the classical touches added a certain something that's lacking from a lot of other guitar players.

Nicole, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The MAURICE DEEBANK Solo CD "Inner Thought Zone" is quite good. I listen to it almost every single day at least once during work on my cpu. All instrumental... it's just like old FELT stuff.... "Ignite The Seven Cannons.." instrumentals only more tightly produced. The CD was re-released with more tracks. He went into the studio to make new tracks. I heard he's living with a girl in SPAIN.. Did anyone hear the song PAPER he co-wrote with St. Ettiene. It was the b-side to the AVENUE single. Todd

Todd E. Jones, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yes, "Paper"! It's also on an earlier St Etienne comp "You need a mess of help to stand alone". Somehow I didn't realise/had forgotten this was Deebank and maybe I'd also been put off this track by the lyrics, which include "Only love can mend a broken heart" (remind you of anything?). I will certainly check out the Deebank solo cd tho.

MarkH, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
There's a pretty great "classic album's revisited" type article on Back In Denim in this month's Mojo (by either Ian Harrison or Roy Wilkinson or Andrew Harrison, one of those three); also it mentions that the Go-Kart Mozart Tearing Up The Charts album finally gets a release next month, staggeringly amazon seem to back this up. New Product Hurrah!

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

wow! THAT IS EXCITING. I loved the last album. I gave it a rave review in the village voice, but i don't think too many people bought it in the states:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0043,seward,18841,22.html

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link

gee, this is truly the only new record i have been so excited to hear in years. he's my hero though.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I need to finally get some more Felt stuff here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i just know that by the time i get back to the shop where i saw old copy of Denim on cd it will be long gone - thanks to the article.

grr.

i always kept meaning to pick it up .. but never plumped up the hard earned for it ..

i suspect a lifetime of regret to follow on now ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

they had a fairly decent little write-up on denim in the brit-pop issue of mojo.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I can see nothing wrong with any of the three Denim albums and the Go-Kart Mozart one. I love them all. Each one is a logical progression of his strange art. Ditto for being excited about this new one.

everything, Monday, 11 April 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm kinda rabid, but i don't think he's ever put out a bad record. from "Index" to the last one.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Is the Denim stuff still in print and, if not, doessomonewanttoyousendit? I feel I deserve it for shelling out $25 a pop for the import Felt reissues way back when.

One of my my fav moment was when Select interviewed a bunch of people about the Exciting New Oasis album and Lawrence Hayward was like, "Oh god I hate it when musicians start singing about their kids.... They should be singing about fucking in the bushes, not their stupid families."

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

t is still the case the three Denimses to date are the records Most Urgently In Need Of Reissue ever (& Kenickie, etc).

Obviously a new Denim album would perhaps be even more glorious, Denim Takes Over has been on the cards since, um, about 1997 maybe? I love the idea that in Lawrence's mind there is zero overlap between Denim and GKM and that they serve entirely different purposes and appeal to totally different audiences, and songs are specifically written either for one or the other.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a Lawrence solo track on Ekkehard Ehlers' forthcoming compilation album Childish Music (Staubgold 60). It's called "Falling Down A Dam Of Mashed Potatoes", unsurprisingly.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

also it mentions that the Go-Kart Mozart Tearing Up The Charts album finally gets a release next month, staggeringly amazon seem to back this up

This is great news! I was just ranting to someone this weekend that Lawrence has never even received half of the recognition that he deserves.

Leon WK (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

That's great!, adding it to my Amazon wishlist, etc.

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I can sell someone with PayPal a copy of Novelty Rock in good nick, and it will not cost US$25.

Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Novelty Rock currently on sale for £1.99 in Oxfam, Streatham High Road.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

can you buy it for me marcello? i'll pay the postage!

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 05:12 (nineteen years ago) link

i love felt, but could someone give me an angle on the go-kart mozart stuff? because i just can't get into it. it's funny, but not that funny?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that might be part of the funniness.

Mooro, can you link to that ETA song again?

Please and thank you.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 08:54 (nineteen years ago) link

So, this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00097HDW2/ref=cm_mp_wli_/202-7893692-0081442

is being released the same day as this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00093UQUC/ref=cm_mp_wli_/202-7893692-0081442

Wich I think it's a very happy coincidence.

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I pre-ordered it from the Cherry Red site about a week ago. I didn't expect it to arrive before the 30th, except, it just turned up in the post today.

I've only just got hold of the St Etienne! Overdosing on Most Antipated Records For Several Years, today. I should probably listen to it now.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 14 May 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"Antipated", yes, the excitement, you see.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 14 May 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG. Alex, how is the new Go-Kart Mozart? I can't believe nobody has asked this yet.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, does it have any real songs on it or is it another joke album?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

*splutter* JOKE ALBUM?

If you can't appreciate the towering majesty of songs like "Drinkin' Um Bongo" then I feel sorry for you.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

well, at least the liner notes were funny.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Retort pouch OTM. Also, "Plead With the Man", for instance, rarely fails to move me to tears. Almost.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 06:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not buyin' it. in either sense of the word.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i am, tho i spent longer reading the inner sleeve than i did listening to the record last time. didn't someone use some of the band name suggestions? i seem to recall they did... lawrence was spotted at the water rats in kings cross about a year ago checking out the tyde (sigh) he looked like he'd been living under a hedge.

cw (cww), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

FYI: All of the 10 original Felt albums -- Creation and Cherry Red titles -- were reissued on CD just about a year ago in those annoying little replica cardboard LP sleeve things, so they shouldn't be too hard to come by now. I don't think they were remastered or anything, but they are out there now.

Hutlock (Hutlock), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

(it is really great, by the way)

It is less psychotic than the last one. It is not dissimilar to Novelty Rock, perhaps. At first I thought it was just an album of "Summer Smash"seses... I don't want to say that it has more 'depth' than that, because, that would be pretty wanky. But. They are "real" songs, yes.

Also, as last time: recommended listening, lyrics to track from next album, bandname suggestions (Shoes & Socks! Salamanda Palaganda!), 'new records to look out for' etc etc. The whole package is a beautiful thing, there is certainly no question at all of this being some kind of sub-Denim pissabout (not that I thought the last album was either, but I gather that others kind of did).

On $|$|< the other day I located a guy who was sharing an unreleased 1998-era-ish version of Denim Takes Over. This was quite surprising. "Trangressions", "City Centre" and "Delta Echo" from the new GKM are also on this, and "At The DDU" apparently previously existed as "Lorra Laughs, Cilla". I need to lavish more time on the rest of it, but, fantastic.

The (Bob Stanley) review of Go-Kart Mozart in the current Uncut includes teensy interview wherein Lawrence claims that a third album will be out later this year, I can't remember if he was referring to Denim or GKM. But the prospect of either is pretty glorious.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

GKM

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't wait to hear the new GKM! Lawrence is God.

Hutlock (Hutlock), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

On $|$|< the other day I located a guy who was sharing an unreleased 1998-era-ish version of Denim Takes Over

!!!

How come I never find anything like that on $|$|< nowadays?

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Brief clip from the new album here. A few bum notes there, Lawrence.

Some downloads here, including Denim's mythical "Summer Smash" single! Good site in general, that. Check out the pictures page, I'll be scouring eBay for those Denim patches and beermats.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"City Centre" is PSB's "The Theatre" relocated to Brum. I love this record more and more and more, there is far more going on than I realised at first. It keeps on giving.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 23 May 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Lawrence living under a hedge? Sounds about right. Last time I saw him.... Christ! For such a glam-obsessed one, he sure looks quite the (latter day) Howard Hughes nowadays. What the hell happened to this man??

prellie, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Not to self-promote too much, but I'm on the second part of an occasionally-published serial Felt retrospective at my audio blog, Borrowed Tunes. I'll take it all the way up through the new GKM.

southern lights, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I just played 'Listening to Marmalade' eleven times in a row. 'On A Building Site' is excellent and hilarious also.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

For those who haven't heard it (courtesy of Mooro):

http://felt2.home.sapo.pt/gkm-Elephant_trunk.mp3

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 07:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Incidentally, there's been an ETA bomb minutes ago in Madrid...

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Maurice Deebank was dropped off after recording "Ignite the Seven Cannons" as a matter of fact, and it was he who never got in contact with Felt again and not he other way round. Deebank was responsible for the creation of "Primtive Painters" (Lawrence just added his vocals) and that is why it sounds so different to other Felt material; it was Deebank left to his own devices. He even fought hard to have his distorted guitar solo on the song. He had become once again more than tired and frustrated by Felt's limitations and with no sign of possible change he left and never went back. It should make one think what Felt would have been like if Deebank had had hold of the reigns. Felt never had such a success again without him.

nigel silver, Monday, 10 October 2005 08:57 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Hi.
I've got a Felt tribute site at http://felt.planetaclix.pt

Got pics, mp3, discography, etc.

Drop by.
Cheers,
Rui

Rui H., Monday, 31 October 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
It's extremely pleasing to report that Back In Denim will be back out on CD on 24 April - hopefully this means that Denim On Ice and Novelty Rock will also reappear in the fullness of time.

In the meantime, as an intro for the uninitiated, here's what I wrote about the record nearly four years ago (gasp!).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 7 April 2006 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Will there be extras, do you know?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 7 April 2006 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link

commentaries, bloopers, trailer.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 7 April 2006 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Sadly not.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 7 April 2006 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link

any word from his recent show in paris? in fact any good rumours or apocryphal rales at all?

cw (cww), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

stuff/dreams/madeof. The Lawrence piece in the current Uncut is even more heartbreaking than these things usually are, though.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 9 April 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

how come?

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Sunday, 9 April 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

they make a particularly big deal of the whole isolated-straggly-tramp-abject-poverty-facing-eviction thingo. the Lawrence-film is apparently scheduled to be screened in November, what are the chances of this deadline being met?

Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 10 April 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey!
The gig in Paris was really impressive! The band played two sets, the venue was packed.
GKM are playing in London on the 5th of may.
As for the film, it's quite sure it will be screeening arounbd november. It will be a 90 minutes film. The guys were in Paris to film the show.
All the best

christophe, Thursday, 13 April 2006 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link

5th of may!!!
where? where?
i am bloody excited.

cw (cww), Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Here comes the address!
Bethnal Green WorkingMensClub
44 Pollard Row, Corner Pollard St.
(Off Bethnal Green Road)
Bethnal Green
London E2 6NB

tube: Bethnal Green
buses: 8, 388

christophe, Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

ha perfect! just around the corner! thanks christophe

cw (cww), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to go to this.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:27 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
i avoided getting tearing up the album charts til now through some morbid fear to disappointment, i found wigwam pretty depressing listening, but boy was i wrong. this is the most succinct pop record he's done since denim on ice, like an lp of great ape hangers!, it's fab. still very excited by the bethnal green show. god i hope it's well promoted i haven't seen much publicity.

cw (cww), Friday, 28 April 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

good for you! one of my fave 2005 albums - "D.E.E.B.A.N.K." among the most poignant tunes of the year.

I'm planning a Lawrence spotlight feature at Tower U.S. - too bad Denim On Ice and Novelty Rock aren't reissued (yet?) so I could hint at the joys of "Brumburger" and "The New Potatoes" (and other tunes that irritated as b-sides but became brilliant as a great crap comp). probably build the feature around the core of Strange Idols, Forever Breathes, Back In Denim and Tearing Up (latter also read as choking up, making you blub).

current spotlights: Comsats and Rob Wratten (thanks lovely reissue labels).

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 28 April 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I got forwarded this yesterday - http://www.monkeon.co.uk/potato/

You may or may not find it amusing.

reclusive hero (reclusive hero), Friday, 28 April 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

god, my son rufus loved that new potato video when he was a toddler a couple years back. it's nice to know that it's still there.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

at the tender age of 37, i'm still tempted to get a felt tattoo. but what felt font? part of me wants to go hardcore and use the font from the index single.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

you could always get " during the eighties felt released 10 lps and 10 singles here are some highlights from the creation years" tatooed on your belly, or classic upstarts. might be a bit painful though.

alternatively ankle tattoo, i think lawrence would dig that

cw (cww), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

or i could get the first line of black ship in the harbour tattooed on me. felt fanz will know what i'm talking about!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

wish i could remember what the first line actually is...that might not be a bad idea though.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

you're on a felt tip

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i was a moment that quickly past

or is that the second line...

cw (cww), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

you could have check spine for tracklisting tattooed somewhere, that would be quite funny

cw (cww), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got Denim's performance from "Later With Jools Holland" on vhs - "Middle of the Road" & "The Osmonds". I'll faff about with vcr/dvdr/pc etc and upload the clips to YouTube this weekend.

scorzonera, Saturday, 29 April 2006 07:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Hooray!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 06:39 (seventeen years ago) link

so is anyone else excited by tomorrow's bethnal green blow out? what are they going to play? did anyone see them play with b & s? does he play any denim?

cw (cww), Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Tomorrow? Blimey, that was quick. Is it sold out?

Yes, I saw them. So did Mooro and (possibly against her will) Lixi McLixi AKA Raston Warrior Robot.

No, there was not any Denim. It was very loud.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i think you pay on the door, theres been no talk of tickets anyhow, doors open at 9, i imagine it'll be pretty busy.

cw (cww), Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheers.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

part of me wants to go hardcore and use the font from the index single.

That would be great, do it!

The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

after some pretty serious thought i'd say the penelope tree type would probably work best, tattoo wise. having said that i don't think i've ever seen the index sleeve

cw (cww), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

the "index" type is sorta stencil-ish. more crass records-like. i could go for the penelope tree era.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

KILL

flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

No Reporting Back from Bethnall Green?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the way he only said two things all night. One was "It's too bright in here", the other was "It's too hot in here. I'm boiling" I think I saw him smile when he said that. He was wearing a really heavy biker jacket (with 'Kill' written in studs on the back). The band were worryingly balding mid 30's, but the new stuff stands up. I must listen to that last album more.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Friday, 12 May 2006 08:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Back in Denim was apparently reissued monday anyone know if it's any different to previous versions. not that i mind i haven't been able to get me a copy for years.

pscott (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 08:57 (seventeen years ago) link

no extras on back in denim from what i hear

the working mens club show was great. the set was a bit short and lawrence's voice could have been higher in the mix. it was all pretty together. the band were oddly reminiscent of earl brutus in their loud blokey glam stompiness. but earl brutus with lawrence singing, which is fine by me. i never saw denim mind. let alone felt.

cw (cww), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

'denim on ice', but not 'back in denim', is on itunes.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Saturday, 20 May 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
"The Osmonds" is my new favorite song. Is it wrong to think that Lou Reed would have tried this and failed, would have tried to write a song about a decade and put in weird little details about that decade but instead would get derailed in put in lots of uninteresting details about Lou Reed instead?

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Thursday, 10 August 2006 03:15 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a great song. truly epic. bell records!

i still haven't gotten my felt tattoo. but i still wanna do it. just gotta wait for the right time.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 August 2006 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Any liggers going to see Go Kart Mozart at Windsor Racecourse? It costs £60.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 10 August 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Seconding the love for "The Osmonds"- brilliant, and a healthy antidote to all the "I love the 70s" nostalgia stuff that those of us in the UK can find hard to escape sometimes.

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 10 August 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Er, sorry that should be "thirding" above!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 10 August 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

did anyone see the go kart mozart show at bloomsbury bowling lanes the other week? i can only imagine lawrence mortification at playing in a sweltering fun factory teeming with hen parties bowling (BOWLING!) noisily away ...that was a terrible booking decision

cw (cww), Thursday, 10 August 2006 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

Lawrence talks to Girls.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh my god! I've been obsessed with Lawrence for about 14 years but I've never heard him be interviewed before. He's so awkward and sweet, it just made me love him even more.

One day someone will write about a book about his life and he will finally get the recognition he deserves.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

You should read the book 'Song Man' by Will Hodgkinson.

fit and working again, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

We're currently working on a Felt/Lawrence fanzine, due out early this spring - the release will be announced on our blog at http://foxtrotecholimatango.blogspot.com.

At the moment contents include essays, memoirs (reliable and unreliable), portraits of Lawrence, unanswered emails, previously unseen photographs, a Felt family tree, tour posters and other more oblique offerings!

foxtrotecholimatango, Friday, 1 January 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost, the lawrence parts of the 'song man' book are pretty depressing. he's sort of a wreck in there, attending NA meetings, on the verge of eviction, still dreaming about writing his #1 hit though. it was written in 2007 so maybe he's in a better situation now.

(oddly enough i just mentioned that book on a different thread i just started up)

NI, Saturday, 2 January 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Foxtrot, I have some photos that I took at Felt's last ever show at Burberry's in Birmingham that I can mail you or share online if yr interested. They used to be on Rui's old Felt tribute site but that doesn't seem to be getting updated these days - good on you for keeping the torches burning.

Bill A, Saturday, 2 January 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey Bill, nice to meet you.
That sounds well exciting! Maybe you could sent them to us?
Would be highly aprecciated, of course.

foxtrotecholimatango, Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

At one particular lowpoint in the 90s, Lawrence was hired by McGee to be Creation's receptionist. The only problem was that he didn't know how to work the phones, and whenever a call needed to be transferred, he had to get up from this desk, walk to whoever the call was for and ask them to come back and put the call through to their own phone (at least, that's what a Creation staffer of the time told me). The arrangement didn't last long.

ithappens, Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Just to let you know that we have the fanzine now.
For more information, you might go to
http://foxtrotecholimatango.blogspot.com/
Also, Rui's Felt Tribute Site has been relaunched:
http://felt-tribute.webs.com/default.htm
Exciting times, isn't it!

foxtrotecholimatango, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link

It looks cool and that's a pretty impressive list of contributors. Congrats. Good to see on Rui's site that the new Go-Kart Mozart album is still scheduled for this year!

everything, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Is this Lawrence Of Belgravia film ever going to come out?

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

This year apparently.

everything, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

They've been saying that since at least 2008.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

if i'm not in it, then that fanzine has no credibility. i'm his number one fan!

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i will pick up the fanzine, looks awes.

this is the best interview with lawrence online i reckon: http://felt.planetaclix.pt/Articles/interview.htm

goes into quite a lot of detail, lawrence talks about every felt release.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

That was from Record Collector originally, and is indeed one of the most straight-forward interviews he's done.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, posted online i mean

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Great to see there's some interest!
The fanzine features interviews with Lawrence too.
One from 1985 by Chris Heath, another one from 2005 by Alistair Fitchett. Both seriously long and revealing.

foxtrotecholimatango, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ne more deets on the film release?

i put it in my top five films of 2008 in an important film magazine

doop snobby snobb (history mayne), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

saw it on the night of the US electch iirc

doop snobby snobb (history mayne), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

was that the full film or the work-in-progress version?

the fanzine looks excellent - will def be placing an order.

Bill A, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

just a w.i.p.

doop snobby snobb (history mayne), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe it's been five years since he's put anything else out. I heard rumours of a new Go-Kart album but this was four years ago. Will Denim Take Over ever see release? Also didn't he once mention a solo album influenced by Lou Reed's Berlin?

I could just do with some new material from him right now.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Also didn't he once mention a solo album influenced by Lou Reed's Berlin?

"Bilston"

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Aloha all,

"Hey - do you like American rock?
Have you ever hidden behind internet curtains?
Can we mostly find you in the Middle of the Road?

See you at the Rocket Cottage Radio Roadshow - a semi-live performance tribute to Lawrence of Belgravia at the Betsey Trotwood, Friday 6th August, doors 7pm...

...Now yer talkin'!

Another show to celebrate the release of Foxtrot Echo Lima Tango - the Lawrence tribute book from German artist Christian Flamm. Live performance from the Rocket Cottage Radio Roadshow

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=121633144549695&ref=mf
http://foxtrotecholimatango.blogspot.com/

Rocketcottage, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

ayo is there any news on 'lawrence of belgravia'?

unchill english bro (history mayne), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

In 1987 promotional opportunities for an 'Indie' group were few and far between. So when Felt were offered to appear on a Newcastle commercial radio station to promote a show that evening at the Riverside venue in town the group couldn't really refuse - even when they arrived to find that the DJ host had almost no knowledge of the group's background history, not even one of their records to play, couldn't pronounce their name correctly ("The Felt") and seemed to be from the hyper, had-too-many Refreshers Timmy Mallett school of presenting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzqSqFVHCjI

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://felt-tribute.webs.com/images/mojo2010.jpg

This article has made my day.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

says 'lawrence of belgravia' will be on at the LFF, but apparently it... isn't :(

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

great news about the reissues though!

(+) (+ +), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I’m against the ‘00s I don’t care what you say
I’m against the ‘00s you don’t listen to me anyway
well I’m for the ‘90s –oh- and for the ‘10s too
yeah I’m against the ‘00s girl look what they’ve done to you

I made a new sound and they put it underground
it was a thunderbolt crash they said it’s never going to last in the ‘00s

we’re victims of the ‘00s yeah you and me girl
deflated by the ‘00s getting caught up in its social whirl
you should have seen me in the ‘90s I was different then
oh but those times have gone and they ain’t never coming back again

so I formed myself a band and I toured it ‘round the land
I took a look around there was nothing going down in the ‘00s

remember in the ‘90s when we were at school
hangin’ out with the older boys bending all the little rules
remember in the ’93 yeah you and me
in a little wood leaning up against the tree

if the truth’s to be told then we were 12 years old
they say crime doesn’t pay but it surely did that day in the ‘90s,
yeah yeahyeah

I’m against the ‘00s duran duran
fake make-up boys the rum-runner clan
I knew you when you were at school you were nothing then
and when you left the band you were nothing again
you bought yourself a farm and you looked about as calm
as a man who’s going to freak ‘cause an earthquake’s hit his street in the ‘00s

well I’m against the ‘00s bands that couldn’t play
I’m against the ‘00s singers with nothing to say
you heard it on the radio you saw it on the tv
you still went and bought it thought – aah it amazes me

you wouldn’t know know style if it ran you up the aisle
you couldn’t spot a star if he came within a mile of the ‘00s

I’m looking forward to the ‘10s yeah I’ve got a new girl
we’re into ravesignal III ‘cos “we’re in love with the modern world”
I’m sick of winklepicker kids mary chain debris
I’ve just had enough of that nah it doesn’t interest me

I’ve made a new sound this ain’t going underground
it’s a thunderbolt crash concerns the future and the past
but not the ‘00s no not the ‘00s we’re talkin' 'bout the ‘00s.

max arrrrrgh, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i want that t-shirt!

x-posts

max arrrrrgh, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I want that shirt as well.

(¬_¬) (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't realise he'd been in a bad way. what's the story anyone know? i hope he gets some money out of it this time. can't see it mind.

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

he was living on bennies in belgravia, and on some kind of drugs [government drugs, to help him off smack, or so it looked] when the doc was filmed, hence the title

sexy mfa (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope he tours the US doing Felt material. Fingers crossed.

Zooster vs. The Slapp (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

ive only this year started listening to a LOT of felt, and tbh, i wish id had a little more time to quietly invest in the whole lawrence oeuvre before reissue fever struck (followed by blog fever). i know that's dumb, and like i wasnt alive when the first record came out, and who cares what is popular anyway, but like, it's fun to not have everything be reissued! the thrill of real discovery!

69, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

but also i always get cranky about everything between 4 and 6pm.

69, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

it's fun to not have everything be reissued! the thrill of real discovery!

That was the 20th century, my friend. But your point is well taken, and if you can restrain yourself you can still feel that thrill.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, im feelin better.

69, Thursday, 16 September 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I am so glad to hear he's doing well these days, I didn't realise he was in such a bad way. I'm really looking forward to hearing the new albums, it's been way too long since his last album. The thought of him doing big pop songs aimed at the charts makes me a little giddy.

It would be great to see him live, he's one of the few people I absolutely love that I've never managed to see.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 16 September 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

For those still interested in things:
we have made a couple more copies of the fanzine now.
You can get them here
http://foxtrotecholimatango.blogspot.com
Also, there was a short article about Brit Pop band Denim in last friday's Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/21/denim-britpop-band

foxtrotecholimatango, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not missing out this time - ordered, and thanks for the heads up F.E.L.T.

Bill A, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

ordered mine as soon as the email showed up a couple weeks ago!

69, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

just ordered one too... kicked myself for missing out last time..

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad i came back here.
Hope you'll like the book!

foxtrotecholimatango, Thursday, 28 October 2010 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Received the book on Friday and all I can say is that if you are in any way a fan of Felt then you owe it to yourself to buy it. From the design, to the photos, to the essays and interviews, it's front-to-back superb. Clearly a total labour of love as well, the editors Christian and Mike should be rightly proud.

Bill A, Monday, 1 November 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

this^^^

fit and working again, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

got mine today, but my fingers are too greasy from banh mi to feel okay touching it yet hahaha

69, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

forever breathes the pictorial greasy bahn mi jackson

i have a snake. thank u very much! (del), Monday, 1 November 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJqV5pDxHA

zappi, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

That clip of Lawrence on The One Show is amazing, my friend text me about it but I was too late to catch it.

Also I would do anything for one of those yellow vinyls of Summer Smash they showed.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

whuuuuuuuut

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

is that gyles 'thatcher' brandreth with lawrence?

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Much as I love them/him, I am kinda bored of the eternal narrative of how supposedly Denim would've been huge if it hadn't been for their goddam BAD LUCK with record labels going bust or records getting indiscriminately banned etc. etc. ad nauseum.

I realise that in the clip above they do not particularly stress this but it seems that the banning of Summer Smash has become the go-to background detail for a band who never had a steady line-up, tried to make a gimmick out of being elderly, never fucking toured, made three records in ten years (frequently missing the advertised release date by months if not years), never released a single that wasn't on an album and had a penniless manic depressive with serious drug issues as their main man. I think there's more to their lack of commercial success than "bad luck".

everything, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

This article is probably the pinnacle of this kind of thing

everything, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Totally with you there.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

love his hat but loz looks like absolute shit these days

ooma boogy wow wow (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

So he goes on the one show dressed like he used to in Denim.

Morcheeba, simply happening. (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, that's what they were talking about.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 07:46 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I don't think that piece suggests it was all bad luck. Surely lots of the things listed are catastrophic misjudgments?

Alan Partridge Project (ithappens), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

They were not one of the 0.001% of musicians who make it huge. So what? Who cares? I followed this band from the beginning and it never even crossed my mind that that they were competing for chart positions and TOTP appearances.

By the standards of the kind of people who liked them, I think they had a pretty good career actually. The stature of the band entirely rests upon the superb music that is contained within "Back In Denim" and "Denim On Ice". They are more than that but that should be enough. Everything they released was fantastic and still stands up today, they garnered critical acclaim that few bands achieve, didn't release anything that was aesthetically half-assed (great design, covers, concepts, clothes etc), did BBC sessions, appeared on TV, toured in Europe, even played a couple of stadium gigs with Pulp. That's a career that 99% of bands would die for.

I doubt that "Summer Smash" would have been a big hit anyway. It would have been their worst single had it ever been released. And what is the point of even speculating about this anyway? Would history have been different if they had had a single novelty hit? I'm reminded of the Dickies, who had 9 hits in the UK in the space of about 2 years. Following this, they were hampered by drug issues, bad business decisions, revolving door line-ups, quickly returning to impoverished obscurity, putting out patchy albums for decades, endlessly touring with their first two albums making up the bulk of their set. I suspect this would have been the fate for Denim, had they ever had a splash of mainstream success. Instead we got Go-Kart Mozart who I consider to be absolute genius.

everything, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Happy birthday!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 August 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

For whatever reason I thought he'd be older. Happy birthday Lawrence.

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Friday, 12 August 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Aw, happy birthday Lawrence, <3 you so much! Poem of the River for all time!

one of those bands where the interviews and conceptual stuff rivals their actual output!

have you guys heard this?? http://dominorad.io/show/lawrence_from_felt\\
i've a link to it if you wanna listen! so great!

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah his radio show was great.

fit and working again, Friday, 12 August 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

proper link to show: http://archive.dominorad.io/lawrencefelt.mp3

was pleasantly surprised to learn that his musical tastes coincide rather eerily with mine. shack, dexys, prefab sprout fantastic something? sheesh, get out of town, loz!!

of course made a mental note to investigate win (whose existence i had been oompletely ignorant of) and sudden sway (all i had known of them was their evolution peel sessions) (he claimed during the broadcast that they were his favorite artists of the nineties!)

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

The two Win albums are very good.

fit and working again, Friday, 12 August 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

i kind of stayed up all night a few weeks ago the first time i heard them. one of those things, like friends again, where i was like 'why didn't my obsessive record collector friends who were keyed into eighties uk pop tell me about this waaaaay earlier???'

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

makes me wish bimble were still here, b/c he was the sort that would post space blues on his blog and be like almost apologizing for the obviousness of it, like "of course this is basic cultural literacy for civilized ppl"

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

like lawrence playing wild swans... almost a tossed-off gesture

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

has anyone read that slim jc brouchard volume, ballad of the fan?

cw, Friday, 12 August 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder how he is celebrating?

djh, Friday, 12 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

Just got a copy of "Forever Breathes the Lonely Word", which Felt record should I get next?

Neil S, Friday, 12 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

poem of the river

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

really think so much of the genius of lawrence was his uncanny prescience

like making a weird moog record in 88

or taking cues from singer-songwriters like hazlewood, hardin, neil that it took almost a decade for critical consensus (at least in the circles he traveled in) to catch up with

he just made a bunch of records in accord with his affections at a given moment, and they still hold up 25 years or more later.

by and large his conceptual ambitions dwarf his contemporaries on cherry red and creation imo

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

thanks!

Neil S, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

@ Neil, get "The Strange Idols Pattern and other stories". Deebank-era Felt is very different (and to my taste, superior) to Duffy-era Felt. Though "Poem of the River" is brilliant.

NP: "Synthesizers in the Rain"

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

thanks again!

Neil S, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know how i feel aboot you cherry red ppl!

poem, pictorial jackson, forever, and the 12"'s are all time for me

dig the cherry red stuff,sure, but in general prefer the creation years when he gradually ironed out the pretentiousness from his system more or less lyrically and began to take cues from boring dylan years + alan mcgee pep talks + his own secret muses which were obv. working overtime in the late 80's

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

like pictorial is x number of songs played quickly, recorded quickly

no stagnant pools or semipiternal darkness or whatever

just candles in a church and autumn martin duffy exercises and lawrence telling it like it is while you're candy flipping

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

"or taking cues from singer-songwriters like hazlewood, hardin, neil that it took almost a decade for critical consensus (at least in the circles he traveled in) to catch up with"

did he know ivo at 4AD at all or anyone at cherry red, because those people were all about that stuff back then. though i guess people who run labels aren't the same as critics.

scott seward, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

he did a single with liz frazier (sic) so i can imagine he would know 4ad people

someone i knew ruined my Goldmine Trash LP by melting candlewax on it, never got over it

brownie, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Ennh, Duffy was such a disappointing replacement for Deebank. I love those later albums, for sure, and would rate "Poem" and "Forever" over "Crumbling" and "Ignite", but Duffy's organ sounds stoopid in comparison to Deebank's endlessly winding majesty. And personally I love the pairing of Deebank with Laurence's "I don't know how to sing"-early style, i.e. "The World is as Soft as Lace"

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

like, i think the irony is, that at the time onlookers were probably like 'this is the apex of huddling in a closet bedsit music' but if you actually go back and listen to it it's far more psychedelic material than the furthest reaches of the mancunian pill chapterhouse. mebbe i'm totally wrong, but i feel like lawrence grokked so many angles of psyche music that were played around with late eighties/dawn of the nineties. he labored with the burden of incorporating the eventual hangover and so forth w/o dwindling down into empty stabs at nihilism or broken hedonism. he recapitulated tom rush et al, and i think in a fundamentally worthwhile manner

i have my own problems with directions that he took blah blah blah, but...pretty sure that bubblegum perfume is in the running for best album art ever.

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Neil, yeah get Poem of the River. If the long instrumental sections grab you then go for Splendour of Fear (the best Deebank-era record imo). If you prefer the shorter songs from Forever Breathes then go for Strange Idols Pattern.

fit and working again, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

scott, dunno, just going by old interview with him circa '87 where they cite his prominently displayed record collection. a friend of mine was friends w/ivo, and his quote on lawrence was something like, 'oh, he's a really unhappy person', which i guess rings true with the portrayal of him in the Creation book, which makes him sound like a depresso

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

bubblegum perfume is in the running for best album art ever.

I would agree, if it read "songs from the cherry red years" ;)

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

theres an interview from that felt fanzine of a few years ago where he's talking about the primitive painters / 7 canons phase and not being able to afford the services of envelope 23 but getting some mates of vaughn oliver to turn in a 4ad knockoff sleeve. I imagine he must have ben almost part of the 4ad crew by proxy at that point. it seems like he was mostly just obsessed with elektra in the phase running up to forever breathes the lonely word.

cw, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he was! let the snakes and some of the other creation artwork is william s harvey tribute all the way

not joking about poem of the river btw. my favorite record by them. ya could probably sustain yrself for a day or two on portions of it.

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

did a quick check on deebank and looks like he did two solo records, years apart- anyone heard them?

brownie, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

Felt discography with great sleeve scans.

fit and working again, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

i've heard inner thought zone, it's about as good as the title implies

cw, Friday, 12 August 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

heard the first one. it's...like the more indulgent moments of felt's cherry red catalog. not unpleasant by any means, but not something i'd get super-excited over i guess

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

ah well, thanks

brownie, Friday, 12 August 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

i go back and forth w/felt. like sometimes i'm like eh, insufferably pretentious and possibly twee in all the wrong ways

but then i listen to riding on the equator or stained-glass windows with fresh ears and meditate on the bubblegum perfume artwork and i'm like "fuggetaboutit,,,these guys..."

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

or like "dark red birds". it's just some guy muttering over organ stabs and someone playing the most boring ersztz nick drake guitar parts ever. and somehow it adds up to the greatest sunday morning or friday night song ever. all-purpose conciliatory vibes and more

dell (del), Friday, 12 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

@ brownie, if you own Absolute Classic Masterpieces, there is a Maurice Deebank solo track on there ("Dance Of Deliverance"). It sounds like Pink Floyd.

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Friday, 12 August 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

no i don't have it, but will look for it

i like pink floyd well enough

brownie, Friday, 12 August 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

xpost So in love with Elektra they did this ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1F6Dj_jCLs

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

You know on that Big Star box, where all the reviewers commented on how no one at the show on the live disc appeared to be listening to the band. I see your Big Star and raise you Felt in 1987 in Greenock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q66mrCKV6k

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

i don't understand why of all the beach boys to cover he did 'be still' but hey it works

Spikey, Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

so lawrence to do that

his cover bests the original imo

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link

Do many of y'all have "Absolute Classic Masterpieces Vol. 2"? I believe it was a Japan-only release but it's 2 discs of the Duffy era that's so well chosen it stands helps build the case vis-a-vis the Deebank era.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

I've got ACMv2, would have to dig in the cd boxes but I'm pretty sure it's a Creation issue, sleeve design to match vol 1 but in white rather than grey. I'd have a hard time choosing between the two eras, tbh; the Deebank stuff (esp. The Splendour of Fear) has moments of utterly transporting magnificence ("The Stagnant Pool" in particular), but I do really love the poppier Hammond ie. Duffy driven sound. I always loved the way they'd intersperse the albums with brilliantly odd EPs as well, I think right until the end Lawrence just did whatever he wanted and as del points out upthread it's taken a couple of decades for people to catch up with him. Best band of the 80s for me, no question.

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeh, i like the creation stuff better, not b/c i think its inherently "better", but more that i think around that time he took cues from classic canonical singer-songwriters and heartily embraced that role, as opposed to merely enterprising to be a quirky-ish indie band. "she lives by the castle", sheesh, it could have been written by willie nelson or somebody. so impressive

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

Most of the back catalogue showed up on Spotify fairly recently so I've been rediscovering loads of Felt in the office and kitchen at home (where I do majority of Spotify listening). Can state categorically that no type of work or cooking related activity is not improved by blasting "I Will Die With My Head In Flames" and "Ballad of the Band" on repeat play.

Totally love Poem too though, dig Lawrence's insistence on Television style crediting of the guitar solos on a track-by-track basis. Think my fave bit is the soloing on "Riding on the Equator", could listen to that all day.

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

yes!

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

Had an extremely pleasurable morning of compiling and ripping all Felt single and EP tracks into a single playlist.

Three of my favourite Deebank-era songs were non-album singles ("Something Sends Me To Sleep", "My Face Is On Fire", and "Penelope Tree", which is probably my favourite Felt song).

The Duffy-era singles are mostly very dark and sinister, fantastic. "The Final Resting of the Ark" 12" and "Space Blues" 12" are just great. Terrific songs cut with Sakamoto-esque CP-70 instrumentals from Martin Duffy.

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I hope he did something nice: Bob, Pete and Sarah popped round with a bottle of Malibu and some antiseptic wipes or something ...

djh, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

My only complaint with "Absolute Classic Masterpieces Vol. 2" is they left off "September Lady", "All The People I Like Are Those That Are Dead" and "I Can't Make Love To You Anymore". Granted, they weren't singles, but still. I added them to my digital version. ;-)

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

If I have Abso Classic Master 2 do I need Bubblegum Perfume?

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

I hope he did something nice: Bob, Pete and Sarah popped round with a bottle of Malibu and some antiseptic wipes or something ...

lol

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

they gave him a vacuum cleaner with ape hangers

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

If I have Abso Classic Master 2 do I need Bubblegum Perfume

I don't think so, the two ACM comps cover everything every other Felt comp has.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

bubblegum perfume is a weird compilation. it hits all the b-sides to 12" material, which, granted is great! but it misses many of the "hits" from their albums, like september lady or castle or whatever

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

This is a really hard band to compile.

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

true

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

The original version of Bubblegum version contains the same non-album tracks as ACM2. However, the recently reissued version of BP replaces three of the album tracks with single tracks that haven't been on cd before.

xxp I think BP was intended as a "pop" album which is why there's no long tracks.

fit and working again, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'd suggest tracking down the following non-LP tracks, most of which are on the comps (some are not, i.e. "My Face Is On Fire", "Sunlight Strings")

"Ballad Of The Band"
"I Didn't Mean To Hurt You"
"Ferdinand Magellan"
"The Final Resting Of The Ark"
"There's No Such Thing As Victory"
"My Face Is On Fire"
"Penelope Tree"
"Something Sends Me To Sleep"
"Space Blues"
"Sunlight Strings"

And the LPs.

Essential:

"The Strange Idols Patter and other Short Stories"
"The Splendour Of Fear"
"Forever Breathes The Lonely Word"
"Poem Of The River"

Underrated:

"The Pictorial Jackson Review"

Good:

"Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty"
"Ignite The Seven Cannons"

A few good tracks:

"Me and a Monkey on the Moon"

Non-essential organ-led instrumental albums:

"Let the Snakes Crinkle their Heads to Death"
"Train Above the City"

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Felt - Pick Only 27

scott seward, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol

i love pictorial to death. so perfect

he's alternately lou reed and dylan like coney island baby / just like tom's thumb's blues vibe. to me, anyway

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

@ scott "No (single)? Madness!" vs. "No (instrumental)? Madness!"

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Pictorial Jackson is the worst for me ... the instrumentals are great but some of the the songs seem half-done. Production is dull too.

fit and working again, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it may as well be a recording of demos or whatever, but i love it. the first few seconds of ivory past alone, wow

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

i love the way the lyrics are so defeatist and contrarian and bitter but then every fourth line or so a glimmer of genuine wisdom puts in an appearance even through the resignation and life-sickness

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

i mean in the album as a whole

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

i own 20+ felt releases on vinyl and i still feel like i won't be able to die happy until i own all the japanese pressings of the albums. cuz i'm sick like that.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

i just thought of that looking at that page of releases.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

plus the japanese releases have inserts that didn't come with u.k. pressings.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really care what that guys thinks about felt, but i read that anyway. when it was posted before.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

the moptop guy. the oasis guy or whatever.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

wow, what a great interview, thanks. agree with him that martin duffy is a genius.

also, lol at that quote. so fitting i guess

is weird and saddening that he wrote a song chastising a junkie and then became one. oh well. life

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

'New Day Dawning' could be their soul/Stax masterpiece, and 'Free' is pure gospel Aretha.

listening to live shows, there truly were a lot of moments where they sounded like booker t and the mg's!!

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

man i love forever breathes, the heavily reverbed guitars and the organ-driven renderings of his songs, but the background vox never worked for me.

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

i love the backing vocals on forever breathes the lonely word, and in fact pretty much all felt, esp. the re-recording of fortune on gold mine trash, lawrence can always use a vocal foil. fbtlw is flawless , it's so fussy though! i was listening to the andy kershaw radio session the other day, and it is to be honest a bit of a shocker, rain of crystal spires in particular is all over the shop, rhythm section way up the mix, guitar bits tripping over each other, vocals off key, it exudes a strong we're playing this for the first time vibe, but it all sound so effortless on the lp! that session has the only studio version of when the dawn comes creeping in too which you get the impression could have wound up pretty great had it been done justice.

Does anyone know the original proposed running order of the original poem of the river? thats always intrigued me, i know i can't make love to you any more was supposed to be on it, but the recording didn't work out, but i seem to recall some others were scrapped too, and silver plane was cooked up in a hurry to fill the gap.

poem of the river is the last perfect album for me, i get almost as annoyed by the underproduction of pictorial jackson review as the overproduction of ignite the seven canons these days. While the former is a great record, it's galling that mcgee wouldn't shell out for a proper production, i assumed that it was lawrence's decision to bash out something rough and ready, but it somehow makes all the difference that he though they were demos. it's kindof fun to hear felt being scrappy, but you get the feeling with a bit of gloss and depth it could have equalled forever breathes lonely word.

for all the oddity in his catalogue, the real anomaly for me is me and a monkey on the moon. it's like he's saying this is the band we could have been all along if we'd played it straight. it has grown on me in recent years, partly as he's great at writing really straight lyrics, as evidenced by denim, but some of those guitar solos do bother me....

cw, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

hmm yeah

me and a monkey has never taken root with me as much as it could in theory

can't believe silver plane was a rushed-off filler track! so wonderful and dylanesque

not sure what the original running order was, just know that when the dawn... was supposed to appear on it

yeah, for being such fundamentally well-crafted songs, it is a little frustrating that the production on pictorial jackson review is not there...but i still love it to death. it's that and "poem" for me.

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

yeah silver plane is great. it makes sense that it came quickly though, it just glides along.

the monkeying about with bubblegum perfume bothers me a bit too, mostly because female star is manifestly not a great felt song and this is probably my single favourite felt artefact. i have three copies. maybe i need to make that four now. the sleeve proofs (very heavily) annotated by lawrence that were reprinted in the foxtrot fanzine are priceless though, yeah lawrence's design eye is dead on. mercilessly so.

It's funny how the instrumental records are generally dismissed as inessential, crinkle in particular is an amazing record. people seem more inclined to approve of these kind of ventures when they're interspersed with pop songs or on b sides. i suppose thats understandable.

cw, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i've spent a lot of time with crinkle and train...

shit i need to check out that foxtrot thing.

even if one hates felt's actual music, can't imagine dismissing the artwork out of hand. i mean...

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

naw, it's lawrence's critique of the rework in progress of the bubblegum sleeve for the reissue, it's classic passive aggressive art direction, i mean it's great, everything he says is absolutely spot on. and theres some additional comments written on homeless shelter headed stationery.

that fanzine is worth checking out, the best bit is an previously unpublished interview from 1986, but there is a wealth of good stuff in there.

cw, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

ha, oh loz...

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

I've a vague idea that I picked up a free Felt flexi in Our Price, Watford - I think around Me and a Monkey ...

djh, Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, get out of the mirror so i can see, i think that was their farewell gift to an indifferent world

this is a bit adrift, but i picked up heidi berry's firefly a little while ago, martin duffy is all over it, i think it's from '87 and it is pretty great, very reminiscent of poem of the river in a weird lady singer songwritery way.

cw, Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

What are the three unique-to-CD tracks on Bubblegum Perfume? Bcuz eMusic has it, so I can just cherry pick those tracks.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

Did some checking about "Goldmine Trash":
"Dismantled King" and "Sunlight Bathed" are demos unique to "Goldmine Trash". Interesting but hardly critical.
"Fortune" is the re-recorded version which originally appeared on the "Sunlight Bathed" single.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

luv Goldmine Trash, as a midwestern american that LP was the only "best of"

halfway through these new answers

brownie, Sunday, 14 August 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

This is a such a great thread, I never get tired of reading about this band.

I fell in love with Lawrence when I bought Denim On Ice when it came out and for a while it was my favourite album of all time. Over the last few years I've started to enjoy Back In Denim a bit more. It seems quite split to which people prefer of the two. I love Felt more as a whole but those two albums are really up there with his very best work.

As for Felt my two favourites have always been Strange Idol Patterns and Forever breathes The Lonely Word. They both represent what was great about both eras of the band. I can never really pick which era I like more, The Deebank years had Primitive Painters but the Duffy Years gave us Space Blues. Truly one of the greatest bands I can think of.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 August 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

One of the things that fascinated - and fascinates me - about Felt was the discrepancy between the quality and the quantity of the love for them. Most people I meet know nothing about them; those who do love them. That was true at the time: when they did their final tour I got my ticket for the Leeds gig as soon as it went on sale, convinced it would be a rapid sellout. In fact, there were about 50 people there.

Maybe they're one of those groups that depended on a moment of conversion to make fans - was anyone ever aware of the group for ages ad gradually fell for them, or was it always a single lightbulb moment? Was definitely the latter for me, and it's still vivid in my mind - being really miserable one teenage Saturday afternoon, and browsing in Our Price looking for something to cheer me up: I found cassette with Seven Cannons on one side and Strange Idols on the other. And when I got it home I couldn't believe something like this existed: it was the only music I'd ever heard that merited the description "courtly" - as much for Deebank's guitar as for the titles. And I loved that Lawrence's voice sounded just like mine did to me when I heard tapes of myself - awkward and out of place.

My favourite Lawrence story (I may have posted this elsewhere; if so - sorry): At one of his 90s low points, Alan McGee took pity and gave him a job as a receptionist at Creation. Unfortunately Lawrence had no knowledge of switchboard systems, or interest in gaining it. So when a call came in, he would ask the caller to hold, walk through to find whoever it was for, then bring them back to reception to either take the call there or transfer it to their own phone themselves.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

Jon Lewis:
Tuesday's Secret replaces A Wave Crashed on Rocks.
Female Star replaces Declaration.
Fire Circle replaces Gather Up Your Wings and Fly.

fit and working again, Sunday, 14 August 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

If anyone here wants the original Bubblegum Perfume cd I'll send it to them for nothing.

fit and working again, Sunday, 14 August 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

I had been aware of Felt for years, heard them but Lawrence's voice didn't work for me. Then a few years back I had the strongest urge to hear "Primitive Painters" and much to my surprise I didn't have it anywhere. So I picked up the Cherry Red "Ambition" compilation and borrowed the ACM compilations from a friend. Well! At that point it all changed for me, though I still find most of the albums inconsistent vs those singles comps. But, oh, the high points are VERY high.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 14 August 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

I'd read about Felt around the time they broke up and was intrigued by their story though not enough to pick up the records. When ACM was released a couple of years later I got that and fell in love with it, subsequently getting all the Cherry Red albums. I didn't bother looking for the later records as I figured without Deebank something had to have been lost. A while later there was the article and interview with Lawrence in Record Collector which convinced me to get Bubblegum Perfume which I found to be every bit as good as ACM, inspiring me to hunt down everything else I could find by them.

fit and working again, Sunday, 14 August 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

Getting BP was my lightbulb moment.

fit and working again, Sunday, 14 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

yah, for me too

dell (del), Sunday, 14 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

Gold Mine Trash was my introduction and the gateway drug for the rest. I read about it in a copy of Q magazine (!) that I purchased whilst in the airport heading for a school exchange visit to Nurnberg, and their 4-star review piqued my interest enough to make me seek it out on my return; I bought the cassette version with a side of extra instrumentals taken from their earlier releases. The 1985 release date ties in with this so I would have been approaching 14 by the time I got hold of it. I was still pretty wet behind the ears with regards to "indie" then and settling into a deep love for The Cure, but I remember being really blown away by GMT and in fact the demo versions on there as mentioned ("Sunlight Bathed..." etc) I still regard as the definitive takes. Per ithappens post, once I'd heard Felt I loved them immediately and started buying everything by them as it came out, along with the back catalogue.

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Sunday, 14 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

I found the Crumbling the Antiseptic Beauty/The Splendour of Fear CD used at Amoeba when visiting SF, and I knew before I heard a note exactly what it would sound like, like I'd heard it in a dream. I was exactly right.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 14 August 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.secondlanguagemusic.com/news.html

Second Language is proud to unveil two short films, recently shot by director Paul Kelly, in which Pete Astor, erstwhile Weather Prophet and Loft-leading luminary of Creation Records' initial onslaught, back in the mid-'80s, and the voice and songwriter behind the just-released Songbox (SL013), is grilled by Lawrence, of Felt, Denim and Go Kart Mozart fame.

fit and working again, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

finally!

fit and working again, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

so is he a junkie now? those pics make him look awful.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

I hope not. I am looking forward to the documentary; I've been listening to a lot of Denim lately and relishing in the hardcore bitterness of the lyrics.

¯\(°_o)/¯ (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Hoping the new Go-Kart Mozart actually comes out this year, as I hoped in 2009 and 2010. :(

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

so is he a junkie now? those pics make him look awful.

― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, September 8, 2011 5:16 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seems like he was from 96 to about 06-08 but he now seems to be clean

Silver Plane has just hit me like a train. now number 1. sorryz forever breathes.

Spikey, Friday, 9 September 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

*Poem Of The River now number 1

any haterz can suck it imo. Ignite The Seven Cannons still kinda sucky though

Spikey, Friday, 9 September 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

^ Ignite Seven Cannons is great. "Primitive Painters" is the problem

fear itself (Ówen P.), Friday, 9 September 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

"Problem"?! If that's the problem, don't give me the solution!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 9 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

i want to hear PrimPntrs (and the rest of Ignite) without RGuthrie. he is the problem, imho.

nerve_pylon, Friday, 9 September 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Yes PP is they're biggest hit etc. but it's too reverbed out and five minutes too long

fear itself (Ówen P.), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

argh, 'their'

fear itself (Ówen P.), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

This is crazy talk. "Primitive Painters" is a jewel amongst jewels, both for Guthrie's production and the length of it. Hell, if it was 15 minutes long it'd still be too short!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 9 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

If you say so. When I want to listen to Cocteau Twins, I put on Cocteau Twins. When I want to listen to Lawrence and co., I prefer to do so without a layer of chorused and MIDIVerb on top.

fear itself (Ówen P.), Friday, 9 September 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

^ yes. but why would you want to listen to the Cocteau Twins?

nerve_pylon, Friday, 9 September 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

because i have a soul

fear itself (Ówen P.), Friday, 9 September 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

so, it would seem there is another band with the name Go Kart Mozart (note the absence of the hyphen) and what is up with THAT?
http://www.gokartmozart.com/

henry s, Sunday, 11 September 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, who seriously decides on a band name without googling it first to make sure no-one's already using it....

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Sunday, 11 September 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

excited to say the least by the book:

http://www.firstthirdbooks.com/previewthebook.php

also a very nice cover of sunlight bathed the golden glow by real estate:

http://feltadeclaration.tumblr.com/

cw, Saturday, 22 October 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

saw the movie tonight and really enjoyed it

on the hot dog streets LP in january and a mini-album a few months later

conrad, Saturday, 22 October 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

Has this been recently confirmed about the new albums? I'm sure they were definitely supposed to be coming out the end of last year. It's been too long since the last album.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 22 October 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

lawrence gave me the above info earlier tonight

conrad, Sunday, 23 October 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

blimey, a hundred bucks to get that book sent to me? oof. and they've only reached 20% of their printing goal? whatever that means.

scott seward, Sunday, 23 October 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

how many people have to order the damn thing before they can print it?

scott seward, Sunday, 23 October 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

maybe i should print my own in the meantime. everyone just start their own felt fanzine. fuck the book.

scott seward, Sunday, 23 October 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, the book's 40 quid , is that extortionate? i suppose it depends on the production values . £20 overseas postage does sound a little steep though i grant you. the whole pre-order totaliser thing is a bit of tease too, it went up by 1% the day i ordered mine.

the preview makes me drool though, the photographs! the layout! it looks quite a thing to hold in your hands.

The film is getting a screening in glasgow and perhaps elsewhere, someone needs to put it on at the duke of york in brighton.

cw, Sunday, 23 October 2011 07:42 (twelve years ago) link

i just kinda miss the days when elaborate vanity projects were the result of someone having too much money. that way everyone won.

scott seward, Sunday, 23 October 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

lawrence gave me the above info earlier tonight

― conrad

So happy about this. I still play Tearing Up The Charts a lot.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 23 October 2011 11:44 (twelve years ago) link

what's this film you guys speak of? the book looks great.

piscesx, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

The film was much less depressing than I thought it'd be. Lawrence seems to be on the move again. Spot on about the importance of buttons. During the Q and A section Lawrence talked about 2 new albums set for early next year release. One proper and one mini album. 30 new tracks.

Flowers Die, Monday, 24 October 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, that's great news. I know at least a few tracks from Denim Take Over are going to be on there (Lawrence mentioned "Robot Voice" and "Men Look at Women," plus the album title is the first line of "West Brom Blues"), but 30 songs means a lot of new stuff.

Think Denim Take Over is pretty easy to find online if anyone hasn't heard it. Bad quality though. It'll be nice to hear proper versions of these songs.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 24 October 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

Terrific interview with Lawrence on Jarvis Cocker's 6Music show yesterday, with some talk about the film and his career, along with some excellent musical choices. Available on iPlayer until next week:

Lawrence on Jarvis Cocker's Sunday Service 30/10/11

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Monday, 31 October 2011 07:53 (twelve years ago) link

this was a good listen - was amazed when lawrence picked slapp happy and henry cow (buzz slightly harshed by jarvis saying something dumb abt 'unlistenable avant-garde rubbish' after the hc)

Ward Fowler, Monday, 31 October 2011 09:19 (twelve years ago) link

Plus Lawrence said the track was from 1973, sort of stuff that annoys a pedant like me... and two tracks from the same album too, not a Slapp Happy track and then a Henry Cow track. Win track he played was really good.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 31 October 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i think lawrence actually said he'd got into slapp happy last week or something, which is quite funny in itself.

cw, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Just remembered him saying his favourite bands of the 80s were Win and Sudden Sway, :)

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Just listening to this now. Such a pleasure, it's really funny as well.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

he's very smart/sharp/with it. not at all addled or what have you. not that i thought that he was, but i still think some people like to see him as some sort of outsider/weirdo and he's really not. the only big surprise for me is the tom waits fandom. wouldn't peg him as a fan, but what do i know. never heard Win before despite the fact that i enjoy the fire engines. listened to other stuff on youtube and its possible that they are, um, still to futuristic for me. though i was a fan of prefab sprout and abc when they went bonkers in a future-pop sorta way. and the undertones. and lots of other formerly more serious brit bands.

scott seward, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bfi.org.uk/live/video/804

conrad, Thursday, 3 November 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

whats that third film he mentions? Pichoult? it rings a bell dimly but i can't place it. i like the story of lawrence dragging phil king along to a screening of 3 women at birmingham uni, on the same visit as the famous pork pie/multi story carpark incident, Phil King had the romantic notion that lawrence inhabited a demi monde of arty sophisticates, but nah, it's just lawrence, weirdy robert altman films, pork pies and the bull ring centre.

cw, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

pixote?

fit and working again, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

i found that go kart mozart band (they are in california) last year sometime too; I saw go kart mozart was playing somewhere and was like WTF. and then disappointment. I think I sent them a snide and nasty email they never responded to.

akm, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

Could anyone upload Denim Take Over, please? And did the b-sides for Summer Smash ever leak?

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

I found Denim Take Over and the b-sides for Summer Smash here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3vjd9j

However, the sound quality of Denim Take Over is not good. So again, it would be great if someone could upload this album.

Arthur'sMother, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 08:48 (twelve years ago) link

has anyone seen the film yet?

piscesx, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

A guy on the Cookdhttp://kkkorner.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/nbomb5.jpg?w=350&h=259d forum leaked Denim Take Over - he said this a few years ago:

'Denim Take Over' had been my musical holy grail for several years, so after spotting Terry Miles on eBay I persuaded seven Denim fans to send me a tenner each in order to pay Terry the £70 he required for transferring 'Denim Take Over' from DAT onto CDR, which I was then able to leak online. However, Lawrence has since claimed that 'Denim Take Over' was never a completed album and existed only as a loose collection of unmastered demos, perhaps confirmed by the appearance of three of its songs on the last Go-Kart Mozart album.

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:47 (twelve years ago) link

I was like WTF

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:47 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Lawrence Of Belgravia last month (and met the man himself!) and massively enjoyed it. Felt and Denim content is less to the fore (no archive footage whatsoever), much of the film chronicles Lawrence's period from what was probably his lowest ebb of being evicted from his old flat (though nothing I recall that goes into detail about him being homeless, beyond the obvious allusion to him having bunked at Pete Astor's house) to being rehoused in a new council flat. There's a lot of GKM interview and rehearsal footage and what can only be staged recording sessions for 'On The Hot Dog Streets', featuring several songs from 'Denim Take Over' (the album title comes from the opening line of 'West Brom Blues'). I'd recommend any fan of his to check it out, even those that throw a sulk at the mention of anything post-Felt. You just ought to.

I have mp3s of 'Glitter all Over' and GKM's 'Talk Like Noddy' should anyone want them posted. I'm after 'Novelty Rock (Kid's Portion)' to complete my collection, beyond finding affordable physical copies of Back In Denim and Novelty Rock itself, of course.

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 10:00 (twelve years ago) link

I really liked the movie and given that I don't own any of dude's albums or have much investment in him in any way I guess it passes an objectivity test

the director was there to do a Q&A (it was a film festival thingy) and I always scarper before I can get sucked into those things, but I was actually interested in enough of the movie's construction to ask him some stuff - eg the fact that it spans like eight years but you can hardly ever tell whether it's 2003 or 2010 or whatever

(this goes some way to getting across how Lawrence has spent this whole time kind of dropping in and out of life)

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the book arrived. it's pretty sweet. is anyone going to the rough trade thing? what's that about then? getting a bunch of gamey old codgers together to play records & talk about their glory days doesn't sound very lawrence. is deebank supposed to be going? is it going to be like classicalindie trisha?

cw, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Reports at the Felt Tribute site forum.

fit and working again, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

Some video.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/On-The-Hot-Dog-Streets/dp/B007R2X6LE

Didn't think "Denim Take Over" (the song) would ever see the light of day, but looks like it's be revived as "Lawrence Takes Over." Actually, I think all the remaining Denim Take Over songs are here (assuming "The Sun" is "Island in the Sun"). Plus 9 new songs! So excited.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

Amazing news. I'm so ready for this album.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

will be buying this on cd and lp. would buy it on tape and 8-track too.

will have to find the most reliable u.s. source for this. i want perfectly perfect copies as soon as i can get them.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 April 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

I Talk With Robot Voice is fantastic. Wonder why he's reusing a bunch of songs from Denim Take Over, though.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 22 April 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

New single is available on itunes right now. It's New World In The Morning which was the single he put out for Record Store Day, really wish I'd got a copy of that.

So great to have him back.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

Felt feature in this month's Mojo

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

very excited. saw lawrence of belgravia the other night and all the bits and bobs from the hotdog streets sounded sensational. lawrence's q and a bit afterwards was great fun too. he said his dream with felt was to make people cry, he said his vision was of people leaving felt concerts in floods of tears. which i suspect would have been realised by lawrence of belgravia, had the bleeding projectionist not killed the film 2 minutes before the end, which did rather disarmed the emotional wallop. oh well. it is a very funny film.

cw, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'm interested to hear the new album but it feels like he is drying up creatively. There's his Felt period where they released approx an album each year plus singles for a decade. Then the run of albums from Back In Denim (1992) to Instant Wigwam and Igloo Mixture (1999) is four proper albums (one double) over 7 years, plus one unreleased album. Those records are all 100% amazing and all show an impressive progression, building on and changing what went before. By my count that's more than 60 songs that he wrote and recorded over this time, even if you exclude squiggly little instrumental bits etc.

In the 13 years since then, he's released one album, which used a hefty amount of material written in the 90s, and which was (IMHO) a regression from Instant Wigwam. It failed to impress a strong identity as a album like the previous ones did, and used many of the same tricks and ideas from Instant Wigwam and Novelty Rock but in a less creative way. And now another album of 9 new songs and the rest written a decade and a half ago.

I've been with his a long time and it's never felt like he's tremendously prolific but for me, the news that this new album has so much old stuff on it is a bit of a downer.

everything, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

i'm just happy he does anything at all. he doesn't have to do anything at all. i like it all. probably the only musician i've been listening to for years that i am even excited about. as far as new material goes. though i was happy to get the latest mark robinson album in the mail last week...

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

Okay fair enough, we have numerous fantastic albums of yore to enjoy. But would you agree that Tearing Up The Album Charts not one of his greatest acheivements? Three or four excellent tracks but not a great album. I feel like this new one is going to be Tearing Up The Album Charts vol 2.

everything, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

its true i didn't listen to the last one as much as i listened to instant wigwam, but its still a really funny record! and singular and totally him and i'm really glad i have it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

He said in the Mark Radcliffe interview from a few days ago that this and the mini-LP are to clear up all the GKM material and I'm assuming the entire 'novelty' period. It's not too surprising he hasn't been as prolific considering what he's been through since the late 90s.

His next project, the mysterious, dark 'singer-songwriter' thing that's being whispered about - containing lyrics written while sleeping rough - can only be interesting, should it materialise.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

I doubt he has the desire or the balls to release a dark singer-songwriter thing. Unless it is actually a pisstake.

everything, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

i mean if you want to talk about diminishing returns, we can talk about almost everyone else i was listening to in the 80's who wasn't lawrence.

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

I prefer if the people I like keep releasing stuff regularly, even if the quality is uneven. Almost everyone who waits 5 years or more between releases has lost the plot and it usually shows.

everything, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost He's been mentioning it occasionally in radio interviews and Q&As recently. He said it won't emerge if the new GKM is "a hit".

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

He's been cagey about exactly what it will entail, but said people will be likely to "reference Felt"

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

nah i believe in the post novelty rock / reflective album, he was talking about it on monday, he claims he has all the songs written.

i dunno, the bits from the film suggest a denim on ice style opus, more ambitous than the last one, i have high hopes for it & there's mini lp out straight after . i think the lack of activity has to do with other factors than creative aridity.

plus, tearing up the album charts is a bit of a stunner on the quiet, maybe not as much of an jaw dropping experience as wigwam, but in terms of the sharpness of the songs i think it surpasses it. donna and the dope fiends! electric rock and roll! transgressions!

cw, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think the likelihood of lawrence creating a great record has anything to do with his grasp on the plot...

cw, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

"the plot" for him has usually been to create an album with a specific concept, a feel, a unified package with the songs sharing some important common elements, sounds, themes etc. To write songs that complement the specific and unique group of musicians that are brought together to record the album. And to package it accordingly.

The problem with the last album was that it felt like a random collection of songs that collectively had no identity. Packaging was nothing special either.

everything, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

hmm yeah i dunno i feel like this record promises to be properly odd, uncomfortable, obtuse & a bit like brumburger on a budget, i think the lack or resources kindof forces lawrence in on himself.

in terms of recycling denim take over (which i've never heard!) he has always insisted that he would never waste a song. plus the older songs on the last one were in no way the best. but yeah the overarching concept wasn't there.

cw, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah since I was think that out loud, he's gone on the record explaining upcoming releases will be clearing the decks for this particular 'novelty' era, so it kind of makes sense.... Though at the time I was watching the film, it was confusing to see him pretending to record songs which had been recorded in the late 90s.

I wonder where Denim ends and GKM really begins, though. Probably seeing Denim as the 'major label' band and GKM as the 'b-side band'. The Denim take over stuff is definitely closer to Denim On Ice than Novelty Rock or Instant Igloo, though. 'The Sun' sounded very polished (with some new overdubs) on Mark Radcliffe's show the other day. Songwriting-wise, not too removed from a certain kind of Felt pop sound, either.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

*thinking

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

I should wait and hear the new one before getting too judgemental I guess. For artists like Laurence, albums have always been more than just a collection of tracks and since we are now in this post-album world, that again may be a problem with Tearing Up The Album Charts. It's the only one of his albums which I do not own a physical copy of. I've never seen the real cover. I've probably only listened to it straight through once or twice.

everything, Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

Then the run of albums from Back In Denim (1992) to Instant Wigwam and Igloo Mixture (1999) is four proper albums (one double) over 7 years

more like 10 years. back in denim was at least a couple of years in the making before it's final release. not that this changes your point you're making.

fit and working again, Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link

I'm so surprised people seem to prefer Instant Wigwam to Tearing Up The Charts. Always thought Wigwam was like a bunch of novelty B-sides with a few proper songs thrown in, kind of exactly like Novelty Rock. We're Selfish Lazy & Greedy, Here is a Song and Mrs. Back to Front are the only songs I really go back to on there. Tearing Up felt more like a real album to me with some of his best songwriting. Glorious Chorus, Listening to Marmalade and City Centre are up there with his best. The only track that seems a bit throwaway is Building Site and that's just too much fun.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

plenty of treasure on both albums. i listened to Tearing Up tons when i bought it, but for some reason i do go back to wigwam more often. i think they compliment each other nicely though.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

Did you preorder the new album already Scott? Limited signed vinyl copies available.

http://www.cherryred.co.uk/westmidlands-exd.asp?id=3681

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

Kitchen, you don't like Sailor Boy? I'm not a huge Go Kart Mozart person, but that song is unmatchable

Anyways, I guess there has been talk of him doing a singer-songwriter project forever. It was supposed to be his "Berlin". I guess the story is that in the late nineties Alan McGee wanted to put out a record by him, but only if it was in that mold as opposed to the novelty stuff.

I think it could be really amazing to hear him working in that particular idiom once again, but hoping that it would be more like Poem of the River-era Felt as opposed to some of the serious songs on Denim on Ice eg Don't Bite Too Much Out of the Apple, Myriad of Hoops

dell (del), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

has this been posted here? it's so good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_bO-NcuMBw

dell (del), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

"two drummers and a couple of sax/ i think he's headed for the cut-price racks"

dell (del), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

So this isn't supposed to be out till June 25th but I just noticed Amazon.com are already selling it. Anyone ordered it yet?

http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Dog-Streets-Kart-Mozart/dp/B007R2X6LE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1339685465&sr=1-1

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Six of the listed songs are on "Denim takes over", you know.

Rob M Revisited, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

There's some discussion about that upthread ;)

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Oops, sorry! I'm recycling like Lawrence :)

Rob M Revisited, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

xxp eight

fit and working again, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

ah, I figure after never really repeating himself with Felt he deserves to be cut a bit of slack in his dotage...

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

The only songs I've heard from Denim Take Over are the title track and the ones that ended up on Tearing Up The Album Chart so to me this is like a whole new album. Wonder if he still plans to release that mini album in a few months too?

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

I heard it was shelved.

everything, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

Got my copy (from Amazon) a few days ago. New overdubs (and in some cases new lyrics) and better quality mean the Denim Take Over songs sound a lot more vital here. And the non-DTO songs kick ass too, especially White Stilettos in the Sand, Spunky Axe, and Electrosex. Whoever said upthread that they were expecting this to be more of a Denim on Ice-style epic was right on. It's funny, before I heard it, I was thinking I didn't draw much of a line between GKM and Denim (post-Back in Denim, anyway), but this definitely feels more like a Denim album. Much bigger sound than either of the previous GKM records.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Album of the year

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

Only played this a couple of times, have to say I'm a bit disappointed. Something about the production that is a little messy in places. I thought this would be Denim On Ice part two but the songs are lacking something. Really hope this is a grower, those first two Denim albums are two of my favourite albums ever.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link

Ah yeah, those are two of the best albums ever, so I'm not really surprised this isn't quite at their level. But as much as I like the other GKM albums, I'm really appreciating the grandiosity of this one. Can see what you mean about some of the production messiness, but the songs are there imo.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

I think after all the waiting I was expecting a bit more from the album. I have no doubt it will grow on me but I'm pretty sure all the Denim and GKM albums were really instant with me. It is really nice to have him back though, can't believe it's been seven years since the last album.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

This album is really very good. Early days, but probably my fave of the GKM records (recycled or not!).

Lots of "funny" here, but... as with Sparks, the songs seem just as harrowing as they are humorous (often at the same time).
Like "I Talk With Robot Voice" is funny, but...

That make any sense?

mr.raffles, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

Two thirds through the new CD and it sounds to me like the peak of of GKM and the natural successor to Denim On Ice in terms of sound and songwriting.

What was due to appear on the mini album? If OTHDS uses up all the the remaining Denim Take Over songs, then what's left?

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Monday, 25 June 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

Think the mini album is supposed to have New World in the Morning on it. Not sure what else...more new stuff I guess.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

This has grown on me a lot. It's not the masterpiece I was hoping for but I'm getting a lot more out of now. I really think it could do without a lot of those extra vocals especially at the end of The Sun and the shouting in Come On You Lot, it sounds a bit clumsy in places. Some songs and moments sound a bit too similar to those on Denim On Ice especially when the kids choir comes in and he says solo for the solo in one song. I think White Stilettos In The sand and Retro Glancing are my two favourites at the moment but it keeps changing.

Hope the mini album still comes out soon, I think it is supposed to follow three months later but I'll believe it when I see it especially as these were both supposed to be out years ago.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the toasting on the sun is horrid, but the rest of this is a total triumph. total lawrence.

cw, Monday, 2 July 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

I really wonder what Lawrence's distinction between Denim and GKM is these days. This album sounds like it should say 'Denim' on the cover.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 08:10 (eleven years ago) link

and while there may not be any 'hit singles' on here, I could easily imagine 6Music playlisting 'Retro-Glancing' or 'Electrosex' if they had any taste left

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 08:12 (eleven years ago) link

Greetings from Denmark. Great to have Lawrence back with a superb album. He has not lost his grip despite all the hardship he seems to have been through. Personally I prefer the new songs (especially, Electro Sex, White Stilettoes..., Come On... and Retro-Glancing), but it's kind of Lawrence to include the last unreleased Denim Take Over songs for his longtime fans. Anyway, the Denim and GKM songs blend together well (like the 70s and 80s retro aesthetics of the cover), and in this way the album is a perfect way for him to say goodbye to his "mustard" period of the last 20 years (cf. some of the latest interviews) - although I'm not sure I want him to do that, especially not when, as is the case on ...Hot Dog Streets, the material is consistently good (i.e. not silly, grating or anonymous).

Well, so much for my opinion, here's a question I hope someone can help me with: What's Mickie Made the Most about, i.e. who are all those people mentioned? I've been googling some of them, but I'm not sure I've been on the right track.

Actually, any thoughts on the the lyrics of the album and insight into their references would be much appreciated.

Arthur'sMother, Sunday, 8 July 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

Definitely Michael Head of Shack, for one

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 8 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

Mentioned: Mickie Most, Ricky Wilde, RAK Records, Mick Head, Gary Shaw. Wikipedia can tell you who they are but knowing doesn't necessarily help explain what the song is about.

fit and working again, Sunday, 8 July 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

Just another collection of Lawrence icons.

fit and working again, Sunday, 8 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's a bit of a "kids these days" rant. ie. back in our day we had great icons like Mickey Most and Gary Shaw, now the kids just go the club and come back and play FPS games. It's a rewrite of "City of the Dead" from Denim Takes Over which emphasises this theme a bit more.

everything, Sunday, 8 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

New interview:

http://thequietus.com/articles/09948-lawrence-interview-felt-go-kart-mozart

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

it's a good 'un. Lawrence is very open about certain things, other stuff not so much.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

"What happened to young Gary Shaw?
Played for the Villa
He don't play for them no more"

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

Any word on that GKM mini album? There was a now-show 6music session a couple of months back, which was annoying

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PWxmU37HU0

Not concerned with fame, huh....

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Sunday, 24 February 2013 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

wow never seen that before. hideous shirt, I assume that was 88-89? i wonder if there's any more where that came from.

cw, Sunday, 24 February 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

MOJO reporting on Mozart’s Mini-Mart.

The big track on the record? That would be When You’re Depressed. The lyrics feature the lines, “Never cry, never laugh / Don’t clean your teeth, don’t have a bath / This constant strain, this constant stress / When you’re depressed… you’re depressed.”

“It’s special,” says Lawrence. “One of those career-defining songs.”

fit and working again, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

Wow, kind of figured this might never come out, and now it's a 19-song album with a song called ‘I Am The Sardonic Lucifer With A Fifty Foot Wingspan’

Excited but would be surprised if it actually came out this year.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 26 July 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ0It3uOrkA

Never seen this before.

squeak and gibber (Eight Model Play), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link

Lawrence of Belgravia showing in LA.

fit and working again, Monday, 19 August 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

Please bring out the DVD now Lawrence!

Kitchen Person, Monday, 19 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

I spent a long time thinking the lyric was 'dragons loaf by, angels fly' and was disappointed when I realised he was singing 'blow fire'.
Don't thing Lawrence would approve of the font on that print, somehow.

Eight Model Play, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

Also, looking at the print again it says 'will you be sorry when I've gone', I thought he sang 'but you'll be sorry when I'm gone', was I wrong about that as well?

Eight Model Play, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

ugly poster.

i've always heard "gathering in galleries, we're stallions of imagery" but the internet says otherwise. on the manics version he sings "we're".

fit and working again, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

aha, i just found the lyrics printed in the absolute classics masterpieces compilation and he does say "we're".

fit and working again, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

"will you be sorry when i've gone" is the correct lyric

fit and working again, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Anybody heard anything about the Felt albums being reissued? I want to start buying them on LP but they're fairly expensive.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 19 January 2014 05:58 (ten years ago) link

is this something you've heard about or just wishful thinking? there's no reissue news that i know of...

fit and working again, Sunday, 19 January 2014 06:16 (ten years ago) link

It's wishful thinking. I'm looking around for Felt LPs and considering forking out between 30-50 bucks for a few of my most wanted LPs but I wanted to ask if anybody had heard anything about them in line to get reissued before I made a decision. It would probably take about $400-500 to buy all 10 albums on Discogs right now.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 19 January 2014 06:55 (ten years ago) link

Not heard anything about vinyl reissues. I have all those CD reissues from 2003/4 (some of which are already out of print) but I would buy vinyl copies if they came out straight away. I managed to get copies of Back in Denim on Denim on Ice on vinyl in the last couple of years (cost me about $40 for both) but I've had to stop myself from looking into Felt records because as you say it would end up costing a lot.

I try not to spend too much on vinyl copies of out of print albums now as record companies seem to be realising people want all their favourite albums on vinyl and so many things have already been reissued. Not sure how long the wait would be for Felt albums, they haven't done a great job of keeping their (or Denim's) albums in print. Also his whole career seems to be full of delays so it might be a while. Still wait on that next Go-Kart album and the movie DVD release.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 19 January 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure I remember reading something about this somewhere, all I can find is this, though

http://feltadeclaration.tumblr.com/post/18332516457/do-you-know-anything-about-future-vinyl-reissues

Dolly Dilly Dally (soref), Sunday, 19 January 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link

deebank's solo album got reissued on vinyl recently.

fit and working again, Sunday, 19 January 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link

regarding the sound/remastering of the 2003 remasters, is it better/different/worse than the 90s twofers? i guess i'm interested specifically about the first two albums.

brimstead, Monday, 20 January 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link

http://youtu.be/wMKNPheDuhs
a little more of the interview embedded upthread.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link

"do you think a sense of humour is very important in all of this?"
"no"

Dolly Dilly Dally (soref), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:53 (ten years ago) link

I've always loved "Primitive Painters" and a couple of other tracks but had never really delved into their albums. I made a Spotify playlist of everything and put it on shuffle and it's all really great.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 24 January 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link

felt playing live, as featured on a spanish tv show

five songs, appearing at 0:20-9:40 and 39:45-46:40

fit and working again, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 04:00 (ten years ago) link

awww man. that has made my week. what a perfect, unlooked-for time capsule. god bless televisio de catalunya. Ballad of the band sounds amazing with deebank's relentlessly gentle soloing. in fact it all sounds kindof flawless through that wall of 6th generation vhs squelch. duffy looks 7!

cw, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

Amazing footage, streets ahead of the "A Declaration" concert. Some gloriously bum playing from Lawrence on "The Stagnant Pool", although might just be the murky sound.

As far as remasters I'm certain that I've read an interview with Lawrence where he bemoaned Cherry Red's tightfisted reuse of master tapes, meaning that none of the early albums exist in multi-track form any more as they were recorded over. A bit like the BBC with ancient Dr Who episodes I guess.

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 10:57 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure there was some rumour of Ignite The Seven Cannons being remixed at Lawrence's behest

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link

On youtube now with the stereo channel issue fixed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcw_CkIkT8&feature=youtu.be

PaulTMA, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link

according to Mojo, Cherry Red are reissuing the Felt albums.
http://pub27.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=2284341502&frmid=34&msgid=1072912&cmd=show

PaulTMA, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

I've been thinking about Lawrence songs that borrow/steal from other people's songs - 'Space Blues' nicks from 'Telegram Sam', 'Internet Curtains' seems inspired by Yachts' 'Suffice To Say' - what else? I'm convinced that 'Bubblehead' takes its tune from something else, but I can't place it.

pop addicts should "do their thing", whatever that may be (soref), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 09:22 (eight years ago) link

Fish & Chips - Let's Dance
Synthesizers In The Rain - Vienna
Great Pub Rock Revival - Shake Some Action ("everybody but me")
On A Chicory Tip - Son Of My Father

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 09:43 (eight years ago) link

Job Centre = Getta Bloomin' Move On (Self Preservation Society) from The Italian Job

pop addicts should "do their thing", whatever that may be (soref), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:00 (eight years ago) link

Middle of the Road - Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep by er, Middle of the Road (too obvious).
Back in Denim - We Will Rock You

everything, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

Shut up Sidney - Uncontrollable Urge

everything, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

Anybody heard anything about the Felt albums being reissued? I want to start buying them on LP but they're fairly expensive.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 19 January 2014 05:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Looks like Captured Tracks is hoping to do vinyl reissues. Only "Gold Mine Trash" and "Bubblegum Perfume" comps announced so far on their Facebook page.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, i posted that on the 2015 reissues thread. I just bought the original pressings of both of those compilations in late-November. Terrible timing.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Wish they would do a compilation of non-album tracks, right now a lot of b-sides are still original-release only and the rest are scattered across what... five different compilations?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

originals probably sound better anyway

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

nah, I have the original vinyl, the problem is a lot of it sounds like crap

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

true, my copy of Bubblegum Perfume sounds terrible.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

my copy of Goldmine Trash sounds terrible and is pressed slightly off-center, Primitive Painters is a wobbly drone mess :(

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

a lot of b-sides are still original-release

only a few tracks have never been reissued on cd.

new noise, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah but that just proves they're scattered all over the place

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

Ha I had no idea, I just always assume the worst when it comes to vinyl reissues

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Re: pressing quality

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Anyways, the CDs sound great

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link

yeah but that just proves they're scattered all over the place

granted but outside of two compilations (bubblegum perfume and absolute classic masterpieces) there are only about a dozen stray tracks and half of them are just alternative versions.

new noise, Thursday, 3 December 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

Hey, thanks for that link. I compiled their rarities myself but it helped me update and improve them. Who knew that "Crucifix Heaven" has been left off all reissues of "Strange Idols Pattern"!

They all play together really well, actually, so I hope they get an airing with the latest reissue series.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 3 December 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link

it would have been nice if he'd put a couple more of those strays on the reissue of bubblegum perfume, as with "female star" etc.

new noise, Thursday, 3 December 2015 02:16 (eight years ago) link

"[...] Primitive Painters is a wobbly drone mess" - faithful to the original, then.

mahb, Thursday, 3 December 2015 10:47 (eight years ago) link

i have everything on vinyl but i would totally buy a cd singles box and a cd album box. if i had the money i would buy all the original japanese vinyl.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 December 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link

the japanese cd reissues that came out last year already sell for godawful amounts of money. if you can even find them to buy.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 December 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link

i totally would have bought that cherry red 3-cd box that came out in the 90's but i never saw one. i just saw the individual CDs back then.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 December 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

half of them are just alternative versions

yeah but the single version of Sunlight Bathed the Golden Glow absolutely destroys the album version, so I want all those alternate versions to make sure I'm not missing out!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 3 December 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

disagree on "sunlight" but i do like the single version of "dismantled king is off the throne" better

brimstead, Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

"sunlight strings" is fun. on the 12-inch.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Sunlight Strings just needs the right sitcom to be the theme to.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

there was no "dismantled king" single!

new noise, Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

the version on gold mine trash was a demo.

new noise, Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

It's the b-side to Primitive Painters

everything, Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Do the CD and vinyl version of Gold Mine Trash have different versions? I think maybe they do.

everything, Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

crucifix heaven is pretty neat!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

xps ah yeah it was on the 92 reissue of pp. not sure about differences between gmt cd and vinyl.

new noise, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

The GMT cassette release has the best tracklist: http://www.discogs.com/Felt-Gold-Mine-Trash/release/5610675

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

cathedral is the actual b-side to the primitive painters 12-inch.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

cathedral just came up on my ipod the other day after yob's catharsis and it sounded SO GOOD
sent me on a felt trip <3

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

played Sending Lady Load at twilight last night before leaving work and it was so life-affirming I am going to do it again today

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Brilliantly set up photo.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

gatefold?!?

cw, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link

it's two copies of the record side by side isn't it? front on the left, back on the right. Martin Duffy's slightly too wide face will be haunting my dreams

soref, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

I''m partial to this one. http://www.discogs.com/Felt-Poem-Of-The-River/release/1988512

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

The long awaited release of Lawrence Of Belgravia is finally here.

new noise, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link

Where are the reissues?

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

LAWRENCE IS BACK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddd9fQepK0I&feature=youtu.be

PaulTMA, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddd9fQepK0I&

PaulTMA, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

Reissues of all the Felt albums. Looks like Strange Idols gets it's original tracklisting and cover, unlike Crinkle which is now The Seventeenth Century
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/felt-decade-music-first-five-albums-will-released-23rd-february-2018/
Also Mozart's Mini Mart finally out in February!

PaulTMA, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

uh-oh john rivers remixed ignite the seven canyons

brimstead, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

and "edited"?? wth

brimstead, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link

Serpent Shade appears to be gone

PaulTMA, Monday, 20 November 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link

the second half of that album was always weird to me anyway. but that doesn't mean they need to fuck with it! oh lawrence

brimstead, Monday, 20 November 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

Damn, this is terrible news. I'll just splurge on the remaining originals I guess. I figured the long delay must be bad news.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 20 November 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

Boy am I happy I got the old 2-on-1 CDs last year, including "Crucifix Heaven".

Artists should either resist the temptation to tamper with their work or issue it alongside the original.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

Hmmm, I take your point about the slightly stalin-esque undertones of the Ignite the 7 cannons thing, but i'm pretty sure any reining in of the suffocating joss stick / victorian lace cocteau-isms will be to the benefit of the lp. It's by far my least favourite of these re-issues but would definitely be the first i would buy. Lawrence has been moaning about how much he dislkes the production & lack of symmetry almost since it came out. But, yeah, I would probably be peeved if i didn't have the original.

I'm much more upset that let the snakes crinkle their heads to death has lost its title. Now, THAT is taking revisionism too far. the reissue has the same cover as my 1986 copy, I think they realised early on the alice band wasn't working for Lawrence.

Those CD box sets look pretty ugly, what are thy about?

the depressed video is a hoot.

Moderately excited about all this. Shame captured tracks aren't putting out gold mine trash, my copies shafted.

cw, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

i'm all for the idea of a less messy/less submerged sounding Ignite The 7 Canons, i'm just fearful it'll end up sounding slick and weird or something..

the lack of symmetry befuddled me and i always assumed it was either intentional or they just ran out of money and couldn't record all the vocals

brimstead, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link

Hey cw, what's the issue with your Gold Mine Trash? I found a sealed copy last year, and the sound quality is horrible.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

So, the CDs comes with the 7" singles and the vinyl albums comes with CD singles? If I was going to pay that much for the vinyl reissues, I'd want the singles on the same format. I think I'll be sticking with the 2002/3 cd reissues that I already have. The prices are ridiculous too. Add in, Lawrence messing about with the albums and this is one big letdown. I've been waiting for these for years!

At least the new Go-Kart song is great. I was a bit disappointed with the last album. Hope this one is back to is Denim/Felt quality.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 05:00 (six years ago) link

Yeah what's interesting about this is that it's actually consistent with stuff Lawrence has said before. In addition to the Ignite stuff, when he named "Let The Snakes Crinkle Their Heads To Death" Bobby Gillespie told him the title sucked and later on Lawrence voiced his regret about the title, so I'm not surprised about the change.

Anyway I'm not too upset about this. Now if he tries to fix up Mayo Thompson's production on Poem of the River...

Isi, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link

I don't remember seeing any talk on ILM of Martin Duffy's solo album from a few years ago. It's very reminiscent of some of his Felt stuff.

mahb, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link

So, the CDs comes with the 7" singles and the vinyl albums comes with CD singles?

it looks like the vinyl doesn't come with anything extra, only the CDs have the extra single

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

I'm so glad Lawrence renamed that album to The Seventeenth Century. That is my favorite Felt Album by far, and generally one of my favorite albums to listen to all the way through.

I'm looking forward to going into my MP3s and retagging the album The Seventeenth Century. Let The Snakes Crinkle Their Heads To Death is such a terrible name.

3×5, Thursday, 23 November 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

The new Go-Kart Mozart album is quite comfortably the worst album Lawrence has ever put out in my opinion. It's like Novelty Rock/Instant Wig Wam without the charm. Lots of songs where Lawrence is totally phoning it in. There are a few standouts, but none of those come anywhere close to the best Denim/Go-Kart moments. Interested to know if others will have a similar experience.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 05:43 (six years ago) link

Looking forward to hearing it but expectations are modest because "a few standouts" - that's been every Go-Kart Mozart album.

And also, Back in Denim > Denim on Ice > Novelty Rock > Instant Wigwam > Tearing Up the Album Charts > On the Hotdog Streets (>this probably).

everything, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 06:03 (six years ago) link

Back in Denim > Denim on Ice > Novelty Rock > Instant Wigwam > Tearing Up the Album Charts > On the Hotdog Streets

<3 this series of words in spite of the declining quality of the music

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

that lawrence could've gone from felt to denim (let alone go kart mozart) is so inconceivable that i cant even bring myself to spend any time with those records

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

I prefer them to Felt tbh.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link

And also, Back in Denim > Denim on Ice > Novelty Rock > Instant Wigwam > Tearing Up the Album Charts > On the Hotdog Streets (>this probably).

― everything

I'd put Tearing Up the Album Charts ahead of Novelty Rock, apart from that I'd agree. I didn't think Hotdog Streets was that great, but it's much better than the new one.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

Love Denim (esp the 2nd alb), never cared for Felt at all.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link

man i LOVE felt
what's not to like!?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

It just feels like they lived in a field and now they live in a tin

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link

this is my favorite felt song
it's so subtly groovy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy_KABAgfUk

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

not that anyone cares what my favorite felt song is but i adore that song so much i don't understand what's not to like about it!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

Ward F OTM.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

You keep raving, LL. There is a depth and subtly to Felt that just begs for repeated listens. I feel like my appreciation for them just deepens as I get older - and I didn't fall for them until I was 40!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link

i most like the felt albums where maurice deebank is soloing on electric all over everything

then i like the denim album with fell off the bank of a lorry

after that i'd put the more pillowy felt albums

never heard any GKM

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

the first two felt albums are like tapestries that just kinda unfurl forever, a ribbon that ties around the whole earth. deserts, snowy tundras, the pacific ocean, all that

I'm going to listen to them all morning

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link

yes indeed
i was going to list the things i like but i don't need to
mostly on "cathedral" it's the spareness of the instrumentation and the interaction between the voice, the no-snare, no-cymbals perfectly subdued drums and the guitar solo that gets me. it's so dreamy and groovy at the same time
i love it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

now that i think about it, there is a felt song that is on my ipod shuffle that always comes up and i love it but idk what it's called. it's more of a dirge. prob from the same album.
they are a band that is fun to listen to when i'm traveling from one place to another. also i didn't really hear them til my mid-late 30s so i know it's not nostalgia talking.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

the first two albums take my breath away

brimstead, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

I've been with various folks in bands who rock in a different idiom and don't know Felt, but when Evergreen Dazed or any track from Crumbling comes on in my car the tone of the lead guitar lines always stops conversation.

I am listening to the Stagnant Pool while my co-workers discuss possible punishments for a student here who accidentally left her handgun in a bathroom

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

good lord

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

since I posted that the campus police have reported a second unattended gun left in a bathroom in a different building

welcome to Texas/America/my nightmare

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

wth

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

Damn. Take care.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link

does that happen regularly?!?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link

most likely explanation is they've decided to start *reporting* such incidents. but I guess a gun is like a cell phone or a sunglasses, one more thing to scoop into your day bag or forget in the bathroom.

anyway, I'm torn on these Felt reissues. I want them, but they're 25 pounds a pop. and I don't really want the bonus 7" or need a signed sticker from Lawrence. sell me a 5-CD box set for 50 pounds!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link

The magical combo of Laurence and Deebank is so addictive and unique to me that I rarely go back to the latter day stuff

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

post-Deebank has a lot to offer, but it's absolutely a different kettle of fish

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

i feel like people don't give ignite the seven cannons enough credit. it's amazing for being the only album with lawrence deebank AND duffy

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

what happened to gary ainge?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

ooh, look at this live recording from Spain from 1985, they sound great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcw_CkIkT8

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

bass player looks so sad though

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

Gary Ainge did this album with Marco Thomas (who I think is the sad bassist above?) under the name Fly in 2002:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrgOjndyyqo

soref, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

Put The Needle Down And Fly by Fly is one of the albums listed in the sleeve notes to Instant Wigwam and Igloo Mixture, one of my happiest moments in a record shop was seeing Put The Needle Down And Fly and realising it actually existed after assuming that both the album and band were fictional

(the album came out a couple of years after Instant Wigwam but Fly had already released a single in 1998 - I wonder if it was Lawrence who came up with the album title, though)

soref, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

Lawrence came up with all the song titles on the Fly album

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

bass player looks so sad though

no one is playing bass... that's deebank.

what happened to gary ainge?

gary plays with lawrence... and vic godard.

new noise, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

Loved On The Hot Dog Streets massively so can't wait for the new album.

PaulTMA, Thursday, 22 February 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link

no one is playing bass... that's deebank.

nah, I meant the guy to the left of lawrence... I guess he isn't holding a guitar though!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 February 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link

that's duffy.

new noise, Thursday, 22 February 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link

looks like he just realized he left his gun in the bathroom

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 February 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link

some clips of the new ignite mixes on bleep: https://bleep.com/release/95538-felt-ignite-the-seven-cannons

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 February 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link

Hmmmm, it's a strange thing, the songs come through a lot more clearly, I feel like I'm hearing the lyrics for the first time, but also it sound a little leaden, lacking the lightness and subtlety of the earlier albums. The drums plod a little. Maybe it takes getting used to. I do wonder if Guthrie just didn't do an amazing job of recording felt and flung the dense cocteaus filigree all over it as a smoke screen.

Haha Duffy does look like a sulky 13 year old in that footage.

Maurice soloing blithely, obliviously through ballad of the band is also priceless.

I'm kind of passively approving of mozarts minimart without expecting to like it overmuch. It's great that he's stuck to the GKM remit and made a hugely irritating and slightly disturbing collection of novelty pop as opposed to the Denim on a shoestring of the last two. They were a hoot in Brighton, Vic Godard leapt on stage and tucked a tenner in lawrence's pocket during relative poverty.

cw, Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link

these mixes r weird

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Friday, 23 February 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link

It sounds like there's a little more space and separation. You can hear the dinky drums better. Might just be me, those are some lofi clips

brimstead, Friday, 23 February 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

the clips I posted aren't actually the remixed versions 😔 they're available on streaming services tho

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Saturday, 24 February 2018 01:40 (six years ago) link

Moazart's Mini Mart is all that matters

PaulTMA, Saturday, 24 February 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link

I was more going by the clips in these excellent interviews:

https://www.mixcloud.com/sohoradio/morning-glory-13022018/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rws9l#play

(scarlet servants and i don't know which way to turn),

by the way, "Denim on a shoestring" & "hugely irritating and slightly disturbing collection of novelty pop" are in no way meats as pejoratives, i adore them all...

cw, Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:37 (six years ago) link

sorry that 2nd link should have been:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rn2mb

& I highly recommend it, Gideon Coe is a big fan & lawrence is on good form.

cw, Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:48 (six years ago) link

If you love Felt but dismiss Denim or Go-Kart Mozart give them another chance. The idea that they are all novelty songs is wrong. Yes, there's "The New Potatoes" but that's an anomaly. There's a lot of serious, clever and creative songwriting about consumerism, drug addiction, failed love affairs, being in a band etc - which Felt also covered - instrumentals not much different from Let The Snakes Crinkle Their Heads or Train Above the City. The vocals are more upfront than Felt and delivered much more confidently. There's waves of instruments that dominate the songs but instead of Deebank doing his endless guitar solo or Duffy doing his endless organ solo you get endless synth soloing and sequencers. The production aesthetic is a bit different but on albums like Instant Wigwam or Denim On Ice the DNA is 95% the same.

everything, Saturday, 24 February 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link

"In the seventies there were Osmands" is excellent

brimstead, Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

Genuinely feel sorry for the Felt fans who don’t realise everything he did afterwards is superior

PaulTMA, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link

Don't knock "The New Potatoes", by the way, Charlie Brooker picked it as his no.1 musical choice on Desert Island Discs.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

Back In Denim is Lawrence's masterpiece. It's the perfect balance of everything I love about him. Denim On Ice isn't far behind. The Go-Kart Mozart albums haven't quite been in the same league.

kitchen person, Sunday, 25 February 2018 02:33 (six years ago) link

Totally agree with that but as per thread title Lawrence is a genius and Instant Wigwam proves it also imo..

everything, Sunday, 25 February 2018 03:15 (six years ago) link

Tearing Up The Album Chart is my favourite of the Go-Kart albums. It seems the most fleshed out and songs like Glorious Chorus, Listening To Marmalade and City Centre are up there with the best Denim songs. Instant Wigwam has grown on me over the years but a lot of the songs seem like good ideas that are underdeveloped. We're Selfish, Lazy & Greedy and Here Is A Song are nice songs that suffer from being way too repetitive. Mrs Back To Front is the highlight. It's Lawrence at his most inspired.

kitchen person, Sunday, 25 February 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link

Mrs. Back to Front is genius. Good example of where instant wigwam works so well - songs, jokes, angst, pastiche, kitsch, experimentalism all in one track.

everything, Sunday, 25 February 2018 04:38 (six years ago) link

Instant Wigwam does sound like a nervous breakdown set to music

PaulTMA, Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:28 (six years ago) link

are these albums actually remixed? I missed that, I assumed tey were just remastered (if that)

akm, Sunday, 25 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link

oh only six songs on Ignite were remixed. I wonder why.

akm, Sunday, 25 February 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

Yeah, it sounds weird that some of them still have that old style production. I'm glad they didn't touch Primitive Painters. It's perfect as it is.

kitchen person, Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

From reading interviews Lawrence has said that the guitar effects were recorded to tape rather than recording the guitars dry and then adding the effect later so I dunno how much he had to work with. I don't mind the original production that much, it certainly works on Primitive Painters.

self heating (brownie), Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link

Lawrence says in the radio interview that he took the master tapes for the songs that had vocals and they used those tapes to do the remastering. I assume the rest of the untouched songs are instrumental + Primitive Painters.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link

from recent interview at the quietus:

He did one song that was really good, which was 'Primitive Painters'. But that was because when we got back from Scotland where we'd recorded it we remixed it in a big London studio, because it was going to be a single. But on the rest of the album he just applied his Cocteau Twins techniques to Felt, which I didn't want him to do at all.

So I knew that one day I was definitely going to remix those six tracks, the ones with singing on them. And what I did was I took the master tapes home from Edinburgh at the end of that session. I stole them and I kept them with me for all of these years.

new noise, Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

call me crazy but i listen to felt for the endless guitar/organ solos paired with some catchy singing sometimes by a guy who sounds like a goofy tom verlaine. no so much in it for hyper ironic lyrics and production

i gave GKM a listen and it's not bad and i'll be spending more time with it. but all yall saying that it's better than felt are out of your minds. taste is subjective and all but that's about as close as you can get to having an objectively wrong opinion

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

Go Kart Mozart - Marc Riley Session #2 12th February 2018

new noise, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

"But on the rest of the album he just applied his Cocteau Twins techniques to Felt, which I didn't want him to do at all." well poo on you lawrence but this is one of guthrie's best production jobs.

akm, Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link

Case #4394016 where an artist can't appreciate their own work.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Although he supposedly hated the sound on Poem Of The River even more - the rumour has it he threw the tapes in the Thames, although I think that's a tall story. Wonder if he'd remix that too, given access.

PaulTMA, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

in lawrence's defence i don't think i've ever read anything about ignite that hasn't been critical of the production.

new noise, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

http://www.furious.com/perfect/felt.html

I was going to chuck these tapes into the Thames and tell McGee there's no album. He said, 'I've put my last six grand into this album. I've sold it to all these European companies! If you don't deliver the tapes, I'm finished and Creation's finished!' I had to give it to him!

new noise, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

Listened to the remixed tracks from "Ignite The Seven Cannons". I think I'm just too used to the original versions, these don't seem like an improvement at all.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 4 March 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link

xpost

i bet mcgee had a similar talk with kevin shields, and i bet kevin shields just went ahead and chucked it into the river

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 4 March 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

Eye-opening interview from MAURICE DEEBANK no less
https://www.outsideleft.com/main.php?updateID=1528

PaulTMA, Sunday, 4 March 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link

wow!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 4 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

Why am I enjoying the new one so much?

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

Has Maurice Deebank gone on the record before to that extent?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

thank you for reminding me to read this. enjoying it so far!

At sixteen I acquired my first electric guitar. It really was an amazing event, as I could now learn techniques and conjure up sounds that hitherto had been out of reach. It was at that time that I encountered a fellow villager named, Lawrence.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link

he really knocks the answer to "what was your musical vision?" out of the park!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link

Glad to read his side of things for once. So much frustration.

burzum buddies (brownie), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link

His ego is so massive he makes Lawrence look humble in comparison

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Seems like a fairly troubled individual? He hasn't done anything since Felt at all, has he? Over 30 years ago.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

by the end i found myself wondering the same thing
wondering what he had been up to if he only made one solo album since then
(and he was a very enjoyable guitarist to listen to, but i haven't heard his solo album -- nor do i expect it to be "indie" lol)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

Not as good as Vini Reilly, I'm afraid to say.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

if you like the instrumental stuff on the early felt albums you'll probably enjoy his solo record (which was made when he was still in felt).

new noise, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link

he made this one song with saint etienne

new noise, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

I really like Inner Thought Zone! It's got a few tracks reminiscent of early Felt (The Watery Song, Golden Hills, Dance of Deliverance) and some other more classical guitar-type stuff that's really great but slides into kinda new age treacliness (which I don't mind at all) like So Serene and a Tale from Scriabin's Lonely Trail

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

wow the Spanish tv video linked in the Deebank interview is great, hadn't seen it before. it's better quality than that awful official live DVD from 15 years ago or so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcw_CkIkT8

piscesx, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

yeah, that was posted above.

i feel bad for maurice. but he will live forever.

scott seward, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

slides into kinda new age treacliness (which I don't mind at all) like So Serene and a Tale from Scriabin's Lonely Trail

those tracks you singled out (and a couple of others) were recorded for the album's cd release in 1992.

new noise, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

Interesting that Golden Hills is from 1992, it sounds to me one of the most Crumbling-like tracks!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

Listened to the remixed tracks from "Ignite The Seven Cannons". I think I'm just too used to the original versions, these don't seem like an improvement at all.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:37 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh, I'm on my first play and I've got the exact opposite view. it's a huge improvement for me

Isi, Sunday, 11 March 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link

Fair enough. I didn't listen to them back-to-back, maybe that will give me a different perspective.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 March 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

A nice look back at Forever here: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/felt-forever-breathes-the-lonely-word/amp/

brimstead, Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

Nice. That was my first Felt acquisition (well, the twofer with Poem of the River) almost a decade after its release, and seems destined to be my favourite forever. The "Cherry Red/Deebank >>>> Creation/Duffy" talk at that time seemed overwhelming so a piece just straight out stating that Forever is their best record is fine by me.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 27 May 2019 04:18 (four years ago) link

“a wave crashed on rocks” might be my favorite felt song

brimstead, Monday, 27 May 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link

Surprise guest appearance by an ILX0r in that writeup.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 May 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

"Denim On Ice", love that album, the songs are so catchy and the lyrics are stupendous.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 April 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

I had the first two songs from that stuck in my head for weeks last year. A headband over the ocean! Great stuff.

brimstead, Sunday, 26 April 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

I've only recently gotten into Felt and got into Ignite the Seven Cannons through the remaster/remix. Man, the original version is so different. I know it's somewhat unpopular (well, it appears to be somewhat unpopular), but I think it's pretty fascinating and even a bit enjoyable after fully submersing myself in the remaster/remix. I think the mix definitely gets in the way of the songs, particularly something hooky like 'The Day the Rain Come Down,' but it totally works on another songs.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

I adore the original "Seven Cannons" and was quite taken aback by the new version. Which songs to you think benefit the most on the new version?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

I definitely prefer the originals to the de-guthrie’d tracks, love all that shimmery icing...

but I think it’s cool on the new disc because it sounds more like Felt, the band, playing. maybe more of a direct line to the creation records

brimstead, Monday, 27 April 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

the first two felt albums are like tapestries that just kinda unfurl forever, a ribbon that ties around the whole earth. deserts, snowy tundras, the pacific ocean, all that

I'm going to listen to them all morning


hell yes

brimstead, Monday, 27 April 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I really appreciate that it is low alcohol in contrast to these rancid Special Brew-strength ales that are all the rage these days

PaulTMA, Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:29 (two years ago) link

I love both Lawrence and Wreckless Eric so it was a surprise to only find out now that Eric had done a response song to The Great Pub Rock Revival. It is quite something. Apparently they later made up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mlFyn_1w4

everything, Sunday, 20 June 2021 23:34 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

We're gonna make a record and put it out on Record Store Day.

visiting, Saturday, 17 July 2021 06:09 (two years ago) link

Not much of a song but it looks like Lawrence has a lot of the same records as me.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 July 2021 07:46 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Lawrence interview in the guardian today

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jul/27/lawrence-interview-felt-denim-mozart-estate

Hidden away in there is the news that he will have a new LP out under the name "Mozart Estate"

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

i feel as if i have read a version of this article every few years for the last two decades. as a Lawrence agnostic it's still always interesting to read but i do wish they would get over the 'should have been / could have been famous' schtick, every single time.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

Was going to say exactly that. Also, I think the main photo was almost identical to one featured in a previous article of maybe a decade ago ago.

Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

yeah really not a great article, but nice there's a new LP on the way

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

I feel a bit weird about hearing the "you can't use the toilet" thing so much - if its a genuine thing (that Lawrence would find it actually distressing) and I've no reason to believe it isn't, then it feels weird to write about it (unless in a really compassionate way). And if its anything else, it just feels a bit ... repeated.

djh, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

Was he always a bit camera shy, or is it "getting old sucks and I don't want to show too much"?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

i'd like to know what's up with Maurice Deebank?

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

He did this interview a few years ago - https://www.outsideleft.com/main.php?updateID=1528

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

I finally watched ‘Lawrence of Belgravia’ the other night, thanks BFI Player! Was interesting if a little depressing. I think I already knew everything it contained from various interviews and articles around it.
One thing that struck me was that, yes, Lawrence has not achieved the level of fame and fortune he desired, but does he recognise that, at least with Felt, he’s got a greater artistic legacy than a vast percentage of the people who ever play music?
I’m sure he talks about the Go Kart Mozart material he’s working on at the time of the film being very pop, but it’s a refracted version of the pop of his youth, not the pop that will get him where he wants to be. But I guess it’s the gap between ambition/delusion and reality that’s meant to be captivating?

hamicle, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

Xp I’ve already read that one! I’m curious what he has been up to since.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

I think leading a quiet life outside of the business, and you can't blame him.

If I were interviewing Lawrence I'd ask about how he reclaims sounds which are considered tacky and cheap and foregrounds them to expose their hidden qualities and make us think about how / why we ever decided they were bad in the first place, that seems to have been his practice for the best part of 30 years, but nobody asks him about it and he doesn't seem to want to talk about it either. Maybe it just isn't interesting to anyone.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

I feel a bit weird about hearing the "you can't use the toilet" thing so much - if its a genuine thing

It is, by the way.

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

I just love MD's guitar playing so much that I want to know if he is making music or not and if not why not

No idea what y'all are talking about wrt toilets, do not care tbh

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

The thing is, for 40 years visitors to his flat have been given The Toilet Chat

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

I still need to watch Lawrence of Arabia and wonder what else people watch on BFI Player.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

i feel as if i have read a version of this article every few years for the last two decades. as a Lawrence agnostic it's still always interesting to read but i do wish they would get over the 'should have been / could have been famous' schtick, every single time.

― stirmonster

Yeah, this is the same theme for every interview I've read of his for the last 20 years now. There's no doubt he's some bad luck in the industry, but some of it has to be his own doing too. I remember him being on Mark Riley's show in 2012 and he was complaining about how he couldn't play live because nobody wanted to book him. As the interview went on, Mark mentioned how a number of people had called in from music venues saying they'd love to have him and to get in touch. He just kinda brushed it off and nothing came of it. The guy who made the documentary also says how he used to disappear all the time and he must be like that too when planning his career.

I'm not sure how much more mileage he can get from the Summer Smash/Diana story too. I seem to remember seeing an advert at the time for Summer Smash in the NME or Melody Maker that said it was coming out August 24th, a week before Diana died. I'm sure I cut it out and put it on my wall (along with all my Mansun and Boo Radleys pics). Maybe it got put back last minute as singles did at that time. As great as the song is, I'm not convinced it was going to be the breakthrough hit he was expecting. I don't remember hearing it on radio at all and I was desperate to hear it. I heard It Fell Off The Back Of A Lorry a number of times the previous year.

kitchen person, Thursday, 28 July 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

As I mentioned up thread, jeez, more than a decade ago, if Summer Smash had actually been released it would have been his worst single.

everything, Thursday, 28 July 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

I was a teenage Felt fan in the 80s, and even then I found him an awkward sod. Every new release or gig was a costly gamble. And the thing that always made me doubt the toilet story is that it was commonly told about Kenneth Williams bitd.

fetter, Thursday, 28 July 2022 08:34 (one year ago) link

There could be various reasons for the toilet obsession. My guess is that 50% of it is that he is embarrassed about the state of his bathroom (because he can’t afford a refurb and the council/landlord won’t do it ) and 50% hates people using his toilet.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 09:04 (one year ago) link

Well, that make two people who etc.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2022 09:04 (one year ago) link

Check your bathroom privilege ! Before my bathroom refurb last autumn (probably 15% more expensive now at least) , I dreaded visitors saying “can I just use the bathroom”.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 09:58 (one year ago) link

Also, 3 people at least … I remember an Andy Warhol story about how Gala Dali (Dali’s wife) refused to let him use their toilet in their New York hotel suite when he was visiting.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

Arabia
Belgravia obv

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 10:37 (one year ago) link

why take interviewers back to your home at all if it's such an issue?

fetter, Thursday, 28 July 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

It’s difficult to bullshit the journalist in a coffee shop! Some eavesdropping ilm reader might say “you really to drop this ‘could have been famous’ line - and Summer Smash wasn’t ever going to be the hit you thought it’d be…and a few live appearances would be good - you lazy so and so”.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

He is playing in Glasgow a week on Saturday tbf.

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2022 12:35 (one year ago) link

I've written pretty much that same profile of Lawrence - as has seemingly everyone who's ever interviewed him - and yeah, the toilet stuff is both very played out but it is the genuine first thing he says to you. And even before then you're warned by the PR that he'll only do the interview in his flat.

He's friendly but not the easiest person to interview, which would maybe so go some way to explaining why the resulting pieces are so similar.

A few years after I was working in the Waitrose by his flat and he was kind enough to pretend to remember having met me as he paid for his can of Coke. I blurted out something about how I'd spent the bulk of lockdown listening to Felt and he seemed genuinely pleased to hear it.

Seeing him in Hebden Bridge next week and have no idea what to expect. Presumably absolutely zero Felt/Denim stuff?

bain4z, Thursday, 28 July 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

Correct.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

Plenty of musicians out there would kill to be as 'successful' as Lawrence is these days

PaulTMA, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

I for one can't wait to see this plaster bust. Seems a bit rum criticising the snaps as he's clearly made an effort: three costume changes! (he's been raiding the famous cellophane archive) and a new baseball cap (thank god...). Intrigued to hear he's a Nick Cave fan. Yeah, it would be nice if articles could take a different angle to the great lost pop eccentric, but mostly just glad he still garners some attention and makes records. And I like the tramp line.

cw, Thursday, 28 July 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

He knows what it’s like to be disappointed by your idols – “I couldn’t get over it in the 1980s when Lou Reed had a mullet”

Lawrence otm

~insert pun here~ (Matt #2), Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

i feel as if i have read a version of this article every few years for the last two decades.

It doesn't help that he tends to announce the title of the next album right after the last album has come out, and then it takes years before it's actually released. So you get multiple articles over several years that are like, "yeah, we're working on the next album now, it's called Mozart's Mini-Mart!"

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Things I'd be genuinely interested to learn from a Lawrence interview in 2022: (i) dude wtf do you do all day? and (b) what do you make a month? like srsly, putting aside all the dismantled king shit, where does the money come from?

fetter, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

God, The Stagnant Pool fucking tears

Mule, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

x-post

Both questions feel a bit too intrusive though? Not sure I’d like to be asked to justify what I do all day or account for my finances.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 29 July 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

Lawrence is obviously very mentally ill

PaulTMA, Saturday, 30 July 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

yeah that does cross my mind from time to time, he has the behaviour and mannerisms of a friend of mine who is a diagnosed schizophrenic (and also a musician), however have to remember that it isn't great to do armchair diagnoses, and it's ultimately none of our business

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 July 2022 09:12 (one year ago) link

It is certainly not obvious that he is "very mentally ill".

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 July 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link

Sorry that was worded really badly

PaulTMA, Saturday, 30 July 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

The Hebden Bridge gig was fun enough. Lawrence remains a not particularly engaging stage presence but he's got a good, young, excitable new band with him and they seemed to be enjoying themselves. Not sure he needed to do "Relative Poverty" twice though.

Finally watched Lawrence of Belgravia last night and thought it was a nice portrait of the man - glad there's no toilet/Summer Smash stuff in there. I'm still not sure if he really believes the "I should have been really, really famous" stuff.

bain4z, Thursday, 11 August 2022 09:01 (one year ago) link

I see Cherry Red has reissued all ten albums on CD with new cover art for a tenner each... assume it's the same mastering job as the 2018 deluxe editions, but do they sound good?

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 22 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

"I'm Gonna Wiggle" - tune of the year.

bain4z, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 12:48 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

I see Cherry Red has reissued all ten albums on CD with new cover art for a tenner each... assume it's the same mastering job as the 2018 deluxe editions, but do they sound good?

― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Sunday, August 21, 2022 9:39 PM (eleven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Also curious about this. I have copies of most of these album but they are at this point not in great shape

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:20 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

Felt Share Brand New ‘Primitive Painters’ Video

Lawrence has commissioned Douglas Hart to direct a new video, a powerful meditation on the group – and the coterie who surrounded them – at the time. It draws on Super 8 footage, featuring a plethora of characters from the Felt and Creation Records milieu, including a youthful Alan McGee.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:44 (four months ago) link

Oh wonderful what a treat!

brimstead, Friday, 1 December 2023 16:27 (four months ago) link

young Lawrence was so dreamy

brimstead, Friday, 1 December 2023 16:29 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

lol what is this?

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2ilBjWM7w-/

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:22 (three months ago) link

oh the dash has broken the url, please copy n paste

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:24 (three months ago) link

it's video from this thing btw:

https://www.fitzroviachapel.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/fc_Lawence-in-Fitzrovia-hero.jpg

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:25 (three months ago) link


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