The least worst of Nu-Metal

System of a Down - "Chop suey" or whatever it was called. The good one.

The motion man remix of Linkin Park "in the end" that was on their remix album.

System of a Down and Tool(if they count) are the best IMO.

Fantastic song. So good it hardly deserves to be tainted with the term 'Nu Metal'.

But I need more. The plan is a 3 cds compilation.

I found a page in internet that suggests that the following bands are good:

Disturbed
Soil
Saliva
Mudvayne
Deftones
Dry Kill Logic
Chimera
36 Crazyfists
5 pointe 0
Static X
Sevendust
American Head Charge
Ill nino
Spineshank
Machine Head
Agresion
Adema
Slipknot
Stonesour
Kittie

I don't know any of these bands...

Good lord no!

By Crazy Town? Man, you're so wrong on that point you should be locked up.

-- David Allen (Davidalle...), July 30th, 2004."

Disturbed may suck. I don't really know. I just need one goog song from them.

and System of a Down, and a few Deftones songs.

(1) is funny
(2) has cool woosh noises
(3) has filled the dancefloor every time i've played it

deftones are fucking horrible

I can't stand that new Otep album.

Any nu-metal other than them and SOAD is pretty much worthless.

...if you're deaf.

Linkin Park: Defend them. I dare you.

And I agree with this too! But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band.

what don't you like the new Otep? I haven't checked it out yet - it's been on a pile of stuff I haven't gotten to for a few days. The last one - especially "Blood Pigs" - was pretty great. Plus, Wifey and I really wanna have a threesome with her.

Can't say i like any of these, except maybe SOAD's Chop Suey coz at least they sounded like they were doing something different, & maybe the odd Deftones track.

Those are all pretty good, some even great.

yeah, who cares.

what don't you like the new Otep?

Yeah, you're right about Killswitch.

The new Otep sounds great, but it just grates after 40 minutes, it's an emptyheaded Slipknot clone, with none of the melodies. Otep claims to be a big poet, but all it amounts to is adolescent whining, and badly done at that. Hearing, "I hate my life!" over and over just gets tiring after a while. A tale of sound and fury, etc. etc. etc.

("Warhead" is an okay tune, though)

Seriously, though, "Blood Pigs" knocked me out. I was a little disappointed with all the 'rapping' on their last record - is there less this time? (I should just go listen to the damn thing!)

Yeah, it's probably better to appreciate them as "pop" rather than as a hard rock band.

This isn't a top ten ever, it's not even necessarily my favorite songs by these artists, but if you don't like any of these songs, wtf are you doing on this thread. you don't believe in a least worst of nu-metal, you're just being a troll.

Evanescence - "Bring Me To Life"
Linkin Park - "Faint"
Limp Bizkit - "Nookie"
Deftones - "Minerva"
System Of A Down - "Chop Suey"
Disturbed - "Down With The Sickness"
Limp Bizkit - "No Sex"
Korn - "Freak On A Leash"
Deftones - "Change (In The House Of Flies)
Linkin Park - "In The End"

Personally, I'm only gonna second what's already been said: "Chop Suey" is a good song, and there's a good bit of Deftones stuff out there worth inclusion.

probably some other stuff I've mentioned on other threads

I always do 3 cd sets. I made a blues 3cd set, a hip hop 3cd set, two 80's 3 cd set, 10 indie rock 3 cds set, a Jandek 3cd set, a Prince 3 cd set... This is totally arbitrary.

- Based on this thread so far, it sounds like there's a very strong, enjoyable single "Least Worst of Nu-Metal," but it also sounds like stretching it into 3 discs is gonna be tough. Even by the standards of the folks here who have the most interest in the genre.

Yes, you are right. I will try to do a 2 cd set.

- Personally, I'm only gonna second what's already been said: "Chop Suey" is a good song, and there's a good bit of Deftones stuff out there worth inclusion.

Thank You and thanks to all of you.

If ever a genre could be distilled to one disc, it was nu-metal.

Feitciera
Digital Bath
Street Carp
Teenage
Knife prty
Change (In The House Of Flies)
Pink Maggit
Hexagram
Minerva
When Girls Telephone Boys
Battle-Axe
Moana

Probably not, right?

it's their depeche mode-isms, innit? (not to mention the deftones' mbv-isms/swervedriver-isms/shoegazer tendencies)

(* = unless tool counts as nu-metal. but even after all this time, that's still an open question, yes?)

Bring Me to Life: The Least Worst of Nu-Metal:

1. "Bring Me to Life" - Evanescence
2. "Du Hast" - Rammstein
3. "Just Like You" - Three Days Grace
4. "Duality" - Slipknot
5. "The Reason" - Hoobastank
6. "Got the Life" - KoRn
7. "Alive" - P.O.D.
8. "In the End" - Linkin Park
9. "Toxicity" - System of a Down
10. "Push It" - Static-X
12. "Blue Monday" - Orgy
13. "My Own Summer (Shove It)" - The Deftones
14. "Broken" - Seether f/ Amy Lee
15. "Last Train Home" - Lostprophets

Rammstein's Mutter is extremely underappreciated in the States.

"Broken" was a last minute addition because I wanted another power ballad. It might've been inappropriate.

"The Reason" itself isn't too nu-metal but the band is and their other songs suck. It's a bit of a stretch I suppose but I don't find it too inappropriate.

"Last Resort" is terrible. I might enjoy its presence on the mix because it's pretty fucking hysterical, but I wanted to make the most legitimate case possible for nu-metal as a truly worthwhile genre. It's not a great case but I think it probably works OK.

Can't have System without 'Sugar', which is far and away their greatest song. (they are obv 'nu-mental')

'Wait and bleed' seconded, as it is a pretty little folk song; bizkit's 'break stuff' was fucking iconic. And Pitchshifter were pretty decent, too, not that I can think of any song titles off the top of my head. Marylin Manson's 'Rock is dead' was also pretty damn near classic.

+ That remix of Rob Zombie's 'Dragula'!

...oh, man. I dig out my old mixtapes now!

There's an Adema video on the Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance game disc. I think the song might even be about Mortal Kombat. It's pathetic.

The overly earnest ballads are my Incubus of choice.

(Bill: The Rasmus are probably one of the ten biggest bands in the world at the moment, but they don't seem too bothered about cracking the US yet).

-- AaronHz (aaronh...), August 2nd, 2004.

Oh, yeah! I remember looking at it and just shaking my head.

It has effeminate pop-star vocals, but the guitar line and production are totally nu-metal. I-IIIm. Suck it.

The world? You mean they've broken beyond Europe?

"All Wrong" was pretty good too.

I once interviewed
Kittie's drummer, she was cool.
So I vote for them.

ummmdaktaummmdaktaEEBA ummdaktaummmdaktaEEBA!

And I'm pretty sure that's the song I was talking about. ("I GET STUPIFIYYED! I GET STUPIFIYYED!) I don't have the cojones to download it.

Its odd how "macho" has morphed and transmutated

However, ignoring my argument entirely, I would never call Static-X nu-metal (unless you call Rob Zombie or Ministry or Prong nu-metal, which seems ridiculous). System of a Down is not nu-metal, either.

I would end this nutty little nu-metal compilation idea and throw yourself together a 3-CD Children of Bodom fest. You'll be much happier and healthier.

There's this one pretty great Mudvayne song with this awesome 3-part vocal breakdown and this totally Yes-esque (Yesque?) weird structural shit going on. A lot of their shit does that, they're kinda nu-prog, honestly.

Anyway, Rob Zombie and Ministry are both a whole lot more industrial than Static-X (or "Push It" at least, the only song of theirs I know).

I dunno about saying that Static-X isn't industrial, Good Dr. Static-X's "Wisconsin Death Trip" (or whatever it's called) encompasses a lot of industrial elements. Rob Zombie is more industrial just because he samples a B-movie 20 times per song? Frankly, Rob Zombie has gone downhill, now that I think about it. That's too bad. Viva "La Sexorcista"!

I think Ned likes Linkin Park because they've got tons and tons of Depeche Mode in them! (which is why I like them too)

The "self-righteous suicide" and "dis-oooord-der" ones by System of a Down are great...

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny. Seems to mark the era better than any other song....It's epic hissy fit mosh rock.

Dan Perry as well.

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

And yet it can be done.

What?! Not by humans! You must be like a half-mage alien elf or some shit, Ned!

And yet it can be done.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 3rd, 2004.

It's about the he said/she said bullshit.

Cellophane
Slo Burn
downset
Drain sth
Snot
Kilgore
Ultraspank
Monster Voodoo Machine
Flashpoint
Pushmonkey
Apartment 26
Taproot
Slaves On Dope
Shuvel
Primer 55
Deadlights
Union Underground
Systematic
Godhead
Nonpoint
Spineshank
No One
Pressure 4-5
Pure Rubbish
Beautiful Creatures
Soil
Flaw
3rd Strike
Pulse Ultra
Glassjaw
Switched
Grade 8
Twisted Method
Unloco
Depswa
Motograter
Memento

YIKES!!! I think I've only heard Spineshank and Drain sth on that list. And I think I got an Apartment 26 album in the mail once, but I don't remember if I even listened to it.

Glassjaw were always good in at the drive in overly agitated kinda way and noone can deny the pure rawk (!) fury that is Soils "Halo".

Great band, led by Joe Leste', ex of Bang Tango, I totally recommend both albums. Velvet Revolver wish they were half this good. But this ain't nu-metal

And that's about it.

new crazy town is ... a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHqNJxfMBF8

i couldn't find a crazy town thread so i figured i'd resurrect this one

finally a nu-metal thread I haven't posted in yet

If we're talking about the least worst of nu metal again, I was always partial to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJC5WWPCtGY

"Say something for the record - tell the people what you feel"

"Fuck the record... and fuck the people"

i have 'diary of jane' by breaking benjamin stuck in my head today after hearing it on the radio recently and i kinda dig it, though it might just be stockholm syndrome. it's almost like...bubblegum nu-metal? idk

decided to listen to some samples of bands listed upthread that I never listened to after seeing a band that sounded like Korn shitting in Mushroomhead's mouth last night, followed by a pure Soulfly clone so ridiculous that they even have "fly" in their name!

Snot = percussive and funky, not ear grating. wouldn't voluntarily listen, but not bad
Kilgore = Godsmack trying to do doom, pass
Ultraspank = zzzzzZZZzzzzZZZzz
Primer 55 = Guy Fieri rapping over shitty g-funk 'metal'

ok back to thrash it is