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Whats the mail order and the shop like? Do they stock loads of metal and psych and stuff?

Tell me of your experiences and whether its worth mail ordering from.

Miko, Sunday, 29 January 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

they rule. they're helpful and friendly and they stock what you need.

If you're buying metal and psych (and I always am) they are INDISPENSABLE. Its usually a highlight of being in SF for me to get to go there. Last time I was there my buddy Cl@y and I went about six times within a three day period. We were zombies for Aquarius.

The mailorder leaves a tiny bit to be desired in my experience, only because they've had a CD of mine on 'backorder' since before xmas, and have been holding the complete order until it arrives. I guess i could just ask them to send what they have now and cancel the damn Blues Creation CD, but I'm lazy.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Do they stock loads of metal and psych and stuff?

Their online catalog will speak to the depth and breadth thereof. They have a particular taste for black metal and dark ambient stuff, so expect to find loads of it.

As far as ordering goes, one weird caveat is that they often have things "UNAVAILABLE OR OUT-OF-PRINT" when this simply means that their particular distributor(s) can't get it. However, I've been able to find many 'unavailable' items at other online retailers like Forced Exposure, Other Music, or even Amazon in a pinch.

I have had to cancel the odd piece of an order here and there when they weren't able to turn something up, but overall it's a great resource for just seeing what else is out there. And their new-releases bulletin is sufficiently different from other prominent online indie stores that it's worth revisiting each week.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Sunday, 29 January 2006 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

As far as ordering goes, one weird caveat is that they often have things "UNAVAILABLE OR OUT-OF-PRINT" when this simply means that their particular distributor(s) can't get it.

In retrospect, this isn't a "weird" caveat at all... it's how all stores operate. Sorry, no idea what I was thinking at the time...

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Sunday, 29 January 2006 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i've never had a bad experience with their mailorder, but i would recommend calling to check on availability before ordering lest you be 'backordered' for weeks.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Sunday, 29 January 2006 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link

aq are awesome! ordered a bunch of times and all worked out well. at one point i ordered some uton or jewelled antler cd-r that they didn't have in stock and went ahead with the items they did have. about 3 months later they emailed me to tell me that it was back. very cool. super nice, friendly and knowledgeable staff. the bi-weekly update is the best of its kind. seriously, it kills.

marcg (marcg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I've always been satisfied with my orders from Aquarius. They're quick to ship, friendly, and helpful. Their webpage is amazing too.

Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 29 January 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The email catalog update is GREAT GREAT GREAT. I don't order from them as often as I should, mostly because they don't take Paypal, the fuckers.

adam (adam), Sunday, 29 January 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

A nice way to spend a lunchtime.

Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Sunday, 29 January 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

lunchBREAK sorry

Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Sunday, 29 January 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Excellent. I'll give their mail order a try.
Sounds like these guys really know their stuff then.

Miko, Sunday, 29 January 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I prefer Boomkat. Killer!

leeroy, Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Boomkat?

Aja (aja), Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Just want to mention that they carried my fanzine back in my San Francisco days and were always extremely gracious.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 January 2006 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I love love love Aquarius Records. Best record store/mail order service anyway.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 30 January 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link

On the basis of this thread, I finally went to Aquarius today. Small but excellent selection; knowledgable help. Picked up an early Boards of Canada and a new Charlemagne Palestine.

aworks (aworks), Monday, 30 January 2006 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Only discovered Aquarius late last year but yeah they absolutely rule both in terms of the music that they stock and the service that they provide.

I've ordered 3 or 4 times from them now (I'm from the UK) and all my stuff has arrived without any problems.

jacderida (jacderida), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

aQ is great! My only beef is that probably every time I've ordered from them, certain items were not in stock although they were listed on their site. So it takes a little longer. This is a small issue though, as the stuff they do stock is of the highest quality. The email list is priceless, too.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i went in on sunday night and bought an 8 disc masters at work compilation. most un-AQ-like purchase ever.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

they were probably glad to get rid of it.

Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i know it's not their specialty, but they're kinda retarded when it comes to hip hop and dance. it'd be ok if they didn't try to stock it, but it's sorta lame when they do.

DMX The Great Depression
I used to think Ice Cube had the most evil voice in hip hop. The voice I picture the devil having or some evil beast that returns to reign terror on the earth. But DMX may have finally outdone Cube. I mean his voice was always gravelly and deep and completely menacing, but too much of DMX's music was of the 'whooooah, put your hands in the air, wave em like you just don't care, whooooah, party, woooah...' variety. Slowly but surely, the music has begun to catch up with the voice and all that bloody/desolate imagery in all his videos and on all his album covers. Don't get me wrong, it's still super catchy, and you'll no doubt find your room vibrating at 2 in the morning, from some dude's boomin' system on the street outside, pumping 'The Great Depression', but this time around it's harder and colder and meaner. Still like a party, but like the party at the end of the world, on the edge of the abyss, smiling and mingling, trying to hide the fact that this shit is scaaaary!

team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Shasta earns another fat paycheck.

Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Sadly I think they've gotten worse at hip hop and dance lately.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Not a fan of AQ anymore, sorry dudes!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

there's a Warehouse Music on Van Ness, Shasta. i'm sure they have a few copies of Legend in stock

team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The best record store ever is in Southern California. You know the one, the one you haven't been to.

Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

when AQ jumped the shark: when byram shaved off his massive beard :(

team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude, you mean the WHEREHOUSE?

Steve

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

you would know

team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I hardly ever shop at AQ but I understand its appeal... what did they burn you on, Shasta?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

the cute girls there didn't want to get in his van

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

White Hills has a new disk up there for sale, they teamed up with San Fran's White Pee. I am ordering now, and very very excited.

Andi Mags, Monday, 2 July 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

man, am i sick of whoever writes the reviews for their updates.

DOOOOOOOOOOOM!
LIMITED EDITION SO ACT FAST BEFORE THEY'RE GONE!
BORIS SHITS GOLD BRICKS!

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link

some excellent lolz on this thread, would chuckle again.

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

For fans of Sunroof!/VCO/BCM. Sooooooooooooooo good! We could listen to this all week and write paragraph long sentences about it too, the thickest, grimiest, most blown-out bliss we've heard in a long time, so very very recommended!

resolved, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Argh, how dare they like what they like???

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

...they like everything. more than everything else. it gets a bit cloying.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, they're trying to sell stuff, i know. but it gets pavlovian with the "BORIS!" "SUPER LIMITED!" "ALREADY SOLD OUT!"

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Why would you write negative reviews of albums you are trying to sell?

At least the reviews actually seem like they are written by people who have ya know listened to the records as opposed to just read the one sheet.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

And they do write the odd negative (or disappointed) review actually.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

as i said, they like every album better than the last album which they liked more than anything ever in the world; it's a bit much and those disappointed/negative reviews are few and far between.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

points for: their reviews do read like they've heard the records, yeah, and lack the twatty "i was listening to this when you were in short pants" tone of, say, other music's reviews. (which was really funny when OM started carrying metal and tried to pass it off as something they had always, you know, meant to do...)

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Gushing reviews T/S: Aquarius vs. Dusty Groove vs. Other Music!

(Also where is the fake Dusty Groove thread?)

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

(which was really funny when OM started carrying metal and tried to pass it off as something they had always, you know, meant to do...)

but Aquarius did THE SAME EXACT THING only about 3 years earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i wasn't reading their stuff back then, duder, so i didn't know. besides, 2000 = noob, 2004 = POSEUR.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

haha yeah see the Dusty Groove thread

I don't really have a problem with enthusiastic music fans writing in constant rhapsodic prose. It makes the times I actually agree with them strangely affecting.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

(i think i even stood up for aquarius in some old thread... a few years later i just don't read anything and go for soundfiles, wonderful objective soundfiles.)

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

"but Aquarius did THE SAME EXACT THING only about 3 years earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

To be fair they did that because they hired a bunch of metalheads and they started writing reviews.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

man, am i sick of whoever writes the reviews for their updates.

if I'm not mistaken the guy who revived this thread is one of said writers

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

so he's like astroturfing for orders?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno what that means (I may be wrong anyway - looks like there's an Andi Mags in NY who's obviously not an Aquarius employee)

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i meant "pretending to be a aquarius customer to get people to order whatever he was talking about," but it's probably not him.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

AQ guy is Andee anyway.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

ah. thanks for clearin that up

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I get a kick out of their gushy reviews, but I always take them with a grain of salt. They are trying to sell records. Their enthusiasm is often contagious, but the sound clips serve to temper that in a lot of cases.

The only thing I actually get a little annoyed about is when they say something is "super super limited 700 copies" or whatever, and I listen to the sound file, decide I must have it, order it, and months later see two copies sitting on their shelf. Probably isn't their fault or anything - maybe the discs just didn't sell.

rockapads, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I dig AQ because they still write reviews unlike many of the online mail order companies that regurgitate the same reviews circulating like viruses across the internet.

AQ does need to learn the concept of breaking up text/negative space and increasing its font size. Yes, the reviews would take up more space, but they would be so much easier to read.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm a total sucker for the 3-sentence post-it review @ Aquarius.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably because I don't have to worry that I'm spending 1/2 my paycheck on a single release. If it sucks, then that's OK.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Other Music got rid of their metal section! It was certainly slim pickins but always nice for a browse.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, AQ have always been super-super-super dudes to me! Love to order from them lots. A++++ will buy from again!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

But don't answer your cell phone in the store (whoops)

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I will own up to that one being my fault.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha! Whiney, that happened to me as well. They slowly increased the volume of whatever noise they were playing before holding up a sign that said I needed to go outside. I found the experience fairly obnoxious when they could've just tapped me on the shoulder. Ah well, I still order from them.

Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still proud of being checkmark #187 on the Aquarius "Who bought copies of the Conet Project box set?" tally poster.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:13 (sixteen years ago) link

AQ guy is Andee anyway.

-- Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, July 3, 2007 5:31 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

andee = indee

sanskrit, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

DOOOOOOOOOOOM!
LIMITED EDITION SO ACT FAST BEFORE THEY'RE GONE!
BORIS SHITS GOLD BRICKS!

...

For fans of Sunroof!/VCO/BCM. Sooooooooooooooo good! We could listen to this all week and write paragraph long sentences about it too, the thickest, grimiest, most blown-out bliss we've heard in a long time, so very very recommended!

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

from this week's list:

And of course, limited, only 500 copies!
Essential!
So lovely.
Recommended.
SUPER LIMITED! ONLY 300 COPIES!!
LIMITED TO 324 COPIES!!
ONLY ONE PER CUSTOMER!!!
LIMITED TO 116 COPIES, each one hand numbered!!
And as always LIMITED TO 100 COPIES.
Gorgeous.
Recommended!
Recommended.
SO recommended.
Definitely recommended.
Recommended as if you couldn't tell already.
So awesome!
LIMITED TO 100 COPIES!
Highly recommended!
LIMITED TO 500 COPIES.
Simply beautiful.
Only 300 copies.
LIMITED TO 500 COPIES!!
LIMITED TO 500 COPIES. Each tape hand numbered.
So good!
Excellent!
Either way, totally recommended.

am0n, Monday, 25 February 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha

Alex in SF, Monday, 25 February 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

aQ are awesome, They always get me stuff In that I cant find elsewhere and they keep stuff on hold for a month until I can afford to pay and things like that. Always very friendly too.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I like that the recommended list is about three times as long as the "selected new arrivals" this week too. Sign that I am getting old is that I've heard of maybe three or so of the bands on the frontpage.

Alex in SF, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

rules. also, they take paypal now.

Snop Snitchin, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

am0n perfectly sums up why i hate their new releases list anymore. except the sound samples. those sound samples are SOOOOOOO SWOONSOME, guys.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link

also: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
ACT NOW OR YOU'RE STUCK WITH EBAY

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link

first world problems

ian, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link

not really into the new site design either http://www.aquariusrecords.com/

why the hell are there limited runs of cd-rs? is it that hard to keep a cd burner going?

am0n, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 06:34 (sixteen years ago) link

What do you have against Sum 41?!

ian, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.aquariusrecords.com/images/aq_recent_crownedking.jpg

am0n, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 06:37 (sixteen years ago) link

why the hell are there limited runs of cd-rs? is it that hard to keep a cd burner going?

artificial scarcity. if it's not limited edition, is it really worth buying?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I've thought that too, but for the more deluxe cd-r releases I'd guess it's more that you'd make all the artwork in one go. And then crap out the next one.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I once bought a Burmese CD from tUMULt before Andee took the reins at Aquarius. He left me a nice note with the disk, which I really appreciated.

MacDara, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 11:42 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Really sick of the limited to 500 copies stuff, too. I really wanted to check out that Cave LP/CD thing, but I guess I don't check the site fast enough.

Another thing that's happened at least twice that I can remember is liking a sample on their site, waiting for months to get a limited to 500 copies CD, then going in the store three months later and seeing it sitting on the shelf with dust on it. Grr.

rockapads, Saturday, 29 March 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't quite understand the scenario you are talking about. Did they tell you they didn't have a copy and then they did and then really had one all along?

Alex in SF, Saturday, 29 March 2008 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

V/A "I’m Sorry And I Miss You" - a black metal re-envisioning of Slint's “Spiderland” album, featuring Leviathan, Draugar, Nachtmystium and more...
V/A "I’m Sorry And I Miss You" - a black metal re-envisioning of Slint's “Spiderland” album, featuring Leviathan, Draugar, Nachtmystium and more...
V/A "I’m Sorry And I Miss You" - a black metal re-envisioning of Slint's “Spiderland” album, featuring Leviathan, Draugar, Nachtmystium and more...
V/A "I’m Sorry And I Miss You" - a black metal re-envisioning of Slint's “Spiderland” album, featuring Leviathan, Draugar, Nachtmystium and more...

ian, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:14 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^ going to be 1000x better than the slint record.

ian, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:14 (sixteen years ago) link

it's kind of a shame that the only black metal stuff he seems to care about is leviathan and stuff that sounds like leviathan but lacking in imagination.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm sure the store stocks lots of great stuff, no?
never been, not on their mailing list, so i'm only guessing.
i'm kind of a black metal tourist myself; i like emperor and a few darkthrone records, but beyond that.. if someone plays it, i'll listen, but you know.

ian, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:34 (sixteen years ago) link

V/A "I’m Sorry And I Miss You" - a black metal re-envisioning of Slint's “Spiderland” album, featuring Leviathan, Draugar, Nachtmystium and more..

whoa!

latebloomer, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i love leviathan, nachmystium and slint! perfect!

latebloomer, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^ going to be 1000x better than the slint record.

no

xox, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link

okay, have it your way.

ian, Saturday, 29 March 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Could be an interesting novelty, I guess. Is the release date listed anywhere?

xox, Saturday, 29 March 2008 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Funny to hear so much worship of Slint now when long ago the debate was whether they were better than Squirrel Bait. I'm still not sure, and kinda edge toward SB.

libcrypt, Saturday, 29 March 2008 05:04 (sixteen years ago) link

slint are a very overrated band.
not a bad band, but just an overrated one.
they're no codeine, fer instance. ;)

ian, Saturday, 29 March 2008 05:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Slint's best moments are sublime. But consistency wasn't their strong suit. SB's output, though only great, was relatively uniform.

libcrypt, Saturday, 29 March 2008 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Closing! Reopening under the new ownership of Superior Viaduct
http://aquariusrecords.org/cat/5025.html

Beloved Customers and Friends:

So, today you would normally be seeing a new New Arrivals list. But instead, we're doing an special in-betweener (the one we skipped last week), because we've got some BIG news.

After a combined 40+ years at the shop, aQuarius OverlOrds Andee and Allan have decided it's getting to be time for us to move on. We'll be in touch again real soon to let you know about all the whys, wherefores, and what-are-they-gonna-be-doings...

For now, we just want to let you know that the shop WILL continue and many exciting changes & improvements are on the way, including a much-expanded vinyl inventory, both new and used!

While our decision wasn't an easy one, we're super happy that we've found the right people to work with the current aQuarius staff to carry on aQ's unique mission and legacy of "getting the music to the people".

Starting next month, our friends at Superior Viaduct will be taking over ownership of aQuarius. You may know Superior Viaduct as a fantastic archival label that is always reissuing really cool music in a variety of interesting genres - including many essential releases we've made Records Of The Week in the past - but they also have a great record store over in Oakland called Stranded.

We really couldn't think of a much better fit than Superior Viaduct / Stranded to whom to pass the torch. At the end of the day, it's all about discovering great music, being enthusiastic about the bands and artists we love, and sharing that passion with others. AQ and SV have similar "tastes" in many ways, and we know they'll do a great job and be worthy successors.

In the coming weeks, you will see the usual faces behind the counter as well as some new ones.

AQ's Valencia St. shop will continue to operate as usual until Monday July 4th. Then, after some renovations & remodeling, the store will re-open under the Stranded banner on Friday July 29th.

The aQuarius website & mail-order will also operate as usual for the time being and orders will be fulfilled by Superior Viaduct. Our usual New Arrivals List, however, will be going on indefinite hiatus as of now, though you'll still be receiving email updates containing more details about all these developments. For one thing, we will definitely be having a party to welcome the new overlords and celebrate the shop's continued survival!

Andee and Allan want to thank all our customers for their support and friendship over the years - aQuarius has been an amazing, hugely important part of our lives and it will continue to be. In fact, we have plans to FINALLY compile, edit and publish the "Big Book of aQ Reviews" that we've always wanted to, so you'll be hearing more about that project soon too!

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 18 June 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link

bummer. i got to go there in person in december after many many years of mail ordering and it was a very nice experience. best record store.

adam, Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:35 (seven years ago) link

aw, i haven't had time to go through their new arrivals lists in years but i'm bummed by this news

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

A lot of people are all "ARRRGH" and I'm all "Well...but it's still going to be an esoteric record store!" I mean it's not becoming, I dunno, artisanal ground glass central or something like that. I'm happily going to keep giving it a chance; my one question will be the stated turn towards more vinyl, given my CD purchasing. So we'll see.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah i hear you but aQ had such a singular point of view for a long time and that's definitely going to change

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link

Their new arrivals lists were one of the best resources out there. I'm sad to hear this.

dlp9001, Saturday, 18 June 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link

xpost -- Granted, but it evolved over time, much as the store moved locations throughout the city. I'm not handwaving -- hell, I live just five, six blocks from it -- but I think it's worth considering the reasons too why the decision was made. Andee and Allan are people who made their own call much like Windy Chien did before them, and you have to allow them that above all else. This is worth reading:

https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2016/06/17/aquarius-records-san-franciscos-oldest-independent-record-store-has-been-sold/

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 June 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link

that's a good read, and it's totally fair for those guys to move on. i'll just miss their aesthetic--i found a ton of cool stuff combing through aQ lists.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 June 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

Once you got past every album being The Best Thing Ever I did enjoy their new arrivals I've been reading them a long time; they've had a tangible effect on my taste in music. I do order from them occasionally still despite being the other side of the Atlantic. Hope this isn't too much of a bad change

ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 18 June 2016 03:41 (seven years ago) link

the book of reviews sounds cool

brimstead, Saturday, 18 June 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

the superior viaduct people are awesome, though, so it's in good hands.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 18 June 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link

I dont really consider this sad news - its not like they're being evicted or going out of business.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 18 June 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link

For me it's really the loss of the new arrivals. I can't imagine how much time it took to put those not-particularly-short reviews together. The comment about "Best Thing Ever" is completely OTM, but it was pretty easy to read around it. They were by far the best source I found post-internet for info on things that weren't going to get coverage anywhere else, and seemed the closest in tone to the 90s music zines that I used to read. I know I'll be ordering the book when it's available.

dlp9001, Saturday, 18 June 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

They published a nice little fanzine recently collecting a number of them, almost a trial run for the book if you like. They might still have copies, I got mine the other week.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 June 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

the dudes at aq have way better taste than the sv dude who seems to reissue shit that doesnt even need to be reissued just to say he did it.

kurt schwitterz, Sunday, 19 June 2016 08:45 (seven years ago) link

Will miss this store quite a lot even if current incarnation can never mean quite as much to me as the cozier Noe St version I lived at from ages 17-20.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

the sv dude who seems to reissue shit that doesnt even need to be reissued just to say he did it.

hahaha, I have definitely felt that way about some of his releases. He has recently started a "new label" to release new material, and it has a different name ... I still don't understand why. I think you actually walked up when I was about to ask this "challenging" question!

sarahell, Sunday, 19 June 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

i don't know, not everything S.V. has reissued is equally worthy, but on the whole it shows good and eclectic taste, which bodes well for a record store (i haven't been to the cleveland store).

frankly there was plenty of trainspotting dubious stuff aquarius championed, but that's fine; it's part of the exploration the store (and others like it) encouraged.

wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 19 June 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

for me it isn't about "trainspotting" or "dubious" stuff -- it's that the record or its contents were widely available already, like the DNA one and the Branca Ascension.

sarahell, Sunday, 19 June 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

that said, the Inflatable Boy Clams record is great, and I wouldn't have heard it without the S.V. reissue

sarahell, Sunday, 19 June 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

was the DNA record widely available on vinyl? i'm not a format fetishist, so i don't really care, but if it was just on CD then it would make sense to make it available in a kind of replica of the original issue for people who are into those things.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 20 June 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

I dont really consider this sad news - its not like they're being evicted or going out of business.

it is very sad news insofar as the continuity of the business has been a huge deal. there is a family of people connected to & through Aquarius who've been championed by them and turned on to new music by them for many, many years. for me it's the end of a business who was on my side when almost nobody had any idea who I was or what to make of my stuff.

I had a chance to swing by today and chat with Allan and a couple of other folks who were there -- informal talk, won't go into full details. But Allan definitely seemed content that it had worked out as best as possible, while acknowledging that the force of feeling from people was a moving surprise. It sounds like the website itself will live on as a memorial/resource of sorts, and other things were mentioned, so wait on word. Staff folks said they're all keeping their jobs too as indicated so that's nice to hear.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 June 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

that's nice that they are keeping the website up. when twisted village in cambridge went under, IIRC they took the whole website, album descriptions and all, down with it, which was too bad.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 20 June 2016 02:40 (seven years ago) link

An upscale vinyl reissue store is probably the only way a neighborhood record store can survive. Fuck. Aquarius' new arrivals list was the closest living thing to an old Factsheet Five zine of weirdos who are creatively incompatible from the entire you/yourbrand/social/streaming/online blarghfest. It was never my local record store, but good grief the list has affected my taste and p.o.v. on the world.One of my most favorite albums ever is a recording of undersea events recorded by hydrophones that out DROOOOOONES* anything by Alan Lamb, old Phillips synth-wizards, etc.. I love it, and without Aquarius stuff like that wouldn't exist. The world is an emptier place.

*Drink once whenever the word "DOOOOOOOOOM" is used in a New Arrivals List. Drink twice if a customer asks what it is.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 June 2016 11:29 (seven years ago) link

Eternally proud to be #185 on Aquarius' list of Conet Project purchasers.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 June 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

I will add that there's definitely a little pushback to SV about making it *all* vinyl, which might be their intent. I offered up that the model could be something like Factory Records in Costa Mesa where Dave maintains a couple of cases of CDs that he doesn't add to with new orders, but is happy to sell to folks if they ask, while the occasional further used CDs trickle in. Turns out Allan knows the store and Noise Noise Noise well! Anyway, we'll see what shakes down.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 June 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link

i think ned should take it over. to heck with those other hipster doofuses.

The Shoegeezer Nedporium!

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

also, can i blame Aquarius for the glut of tedious one man USBM all those years ago? i think i will anyway.

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

but best of luck to them.

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

count me among those who found their "Best Thing Ever" reviews kind of charming -- you had to take it w/ several grains of salt, but the enthusiasm was usually refreshing.

tylerw, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

I didn't mean to be flippant about Aquarius positive role in the music scene, locally and otherwise, just that I guess I was prepared for this story to be a whole lot worse (which is why I referenced evictions/being forced out of business etc.) and knowing that it's a voluntary decision makes it a little easier to be more philosophical (as opposed to depressed) about the passage of a great thing. They were always good to me and I always liked shopping there.

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

they sure lasted a lot longer than most record stores! they have a lot to be proud of.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 20 June 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

I will add that there's definitely a little pushback to SV about making it *all* vinyl, which might be their intent.

yeah, i'm definitely pushing back ...

sarahell, Monday, 20 June 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

A short hail and farewell

http://nedraggett.tumblr.com/post/146907900562/today-aquarius-records-closes-after-a-forty-year

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

There was a low key celebration of aQ yesterday at the Make Out Room hosted by Andee and Allan -- it was also an impromptu fundraiser for the Ghost Ship fire victims, which was good to see. (Raised almost $400 all told IIRC.) Didn't stay for the full length but was around to be filmed for a documentary that is being put together about the store, which I gather is near completion.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

So I've heard rumors there was going to be a new Aquarius store set up by former employees? Heard anything about that, Ned? The guy who told me is kinda... slightly shady. But was apparently involved in the old store at some point.

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Hm. I haven't heard anything specifically about that, but I can ask around. Nobody mentioned it yesterday, but I wasn't talking to everybody.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

A few days ago, I realized that the zillions of old AQ reviews have vanished from the internet. It was such an amazing resource for reading about lots of music that flew well-under the radar. RIP AQ.

Cannonley Adderall (InternationalWaters), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

My understanding is that there's going to be an archive of some sort, but I should follow up.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Eight hours of hits from Aquarius: http://www.whydoyoulikeit.com/2016/12/over-eight-hours-of-aq-hits.html

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 January 2017 06:17 (seven years ago) link

Nice!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 January 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

So as I said a couple of years ago about a post-closure hail and farewell:

Didn't stay for the full length but was around to be filmed for a documentary that is being put together about the store, which I gather is near completion.

And that is out next year...but enjoy the first seven minutes. Lots of, how you say, familiar names:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_0ab_cI65E

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

nice!

new store that took its place kinda sucks tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

Not a fan, no.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

And another clip!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6bU7KqYP54

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

enjoyed both of those clips, looking forward to the film! I'll never forget my first time going into Aquarius in the late 80s when it was on 24th St in Noe Valley. I think I ended up buying a cassette of Surfer Rosa. I fell in love with the store that day

Dan S, Thursday, 18 July 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

Watched that last night, a few times. Didn't expect that last ilxor cameo near the end, very nice!

I still think about their weekly email lists all the time, nothing was like those in your inbox. I'd ordered from them for years, but had never had a chance to go. In January of 2016 we booked a trip to San Francisco that was to take place in September, since it was at the top of my list for places to visit I was really bummed when I heard the news. Still made the trek down to see the sign and check out the new Stranded, which was a disappointment. At the time I put it down to still getting going, but sounds like it hasn't really improved much.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

Didn't expect that last ilxor cameo near the end, very nice!

Odd thing was I didn't even recall filming that bit! We were mostly filming inside the Make Out Room.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 July 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Okay! So the long in the works documentary is about to get its premiere. If you're in the area or will be, June 3rd at the Roxie

https://sfdocfest2022.eventive.org/schedule/6266fa524f915800bc1a9d73

If you're not in the area, you'll be able to watch live in early June as part of the festival streaming setup:

https://watch.eventive.org/sfdocfest2022/play/626d8a60dfc81600dd8deaa6

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link

I loved the knowledge and recommendations of the Aquarius staff, and had amazing conversations with them over the years (Windy Chien, Andee Connors, Allan Horrocks, Jim Haynes)

Dan S, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 02:25 (two years ago) link

Not the first time I've said it, nor will it be the last, but I really miss their emails and recommendations. Sure, there are other sources out there, like Forced Exposure, but none that scratches the same itch as Aquarius did.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link

Aquarius was hilarious — those emails always got me to buy something just based on the wild enthusiasm. Totally fun.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

Just off the top of my head, I have Aquarius emails for introducing me to Loop, Wooden Shjips, Weakling and Gnod and for filling in my Circle and Pharaoah Overload collections.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

insert a "to thank" in there

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

I think everyone who owns the Weakling album bought it because of Aquarius

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link

haha fair

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 16:38 (two years ago) link

It is a good album, though!

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

Got to see the early cut of said documentary the other day -- a very enjoyable and moving treat, and yes I am in it briefly in the opening credits and with a small but I think very well chosen bit near the end. Without really spoiling, I can say both Circle and the CONET project get some time -- no Merzbox mention but Merzbow does crop up in various contexts.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

Can't wait to see this!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

Get those online tickets as I mentioned and you can soon!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Online tickets ordered!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 09:38 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

And it's live for streaming! Again, the link:

https://watch.eventive.org/sfdocfest2022/play/626d8a60dfc81600dd8deaa6

And yes indeed I'm in it briefly, at the start in the titles as noted earlier and with a quick bit at the end, but mostly it's others' stories to rightly tell.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 June 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Unfortunately life interfered in June and I didn't get to stream while it was available as part of that festival. Keep hoping there's news of a wider streaming or way to purchase this outright, but still seems to be limited to one-off screenings now and then. Looks like LA, NY, Arizona, Utah and.... Portugal on the list.

Can't believe it's been three whole years since the first footage came out!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Still waiting to see this. Hope one of these years it gets a proper release on streaming or.... anything. Seems like it's just slowly rolling out one festival screening at a time, every four to five months.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 06:05 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Screening coming up Sunday in North Carolina, with John Darnielle, among others! Wish I was closer, starting to feel really nervous that this is never going to get a release beyond one-off screenings.

https://catscradle.com/event/it-came-from-aquarius-records/cats-cradle-back-room/carrboro-north-carolina/

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:37 (eleven months ago) link

among others!

*coughs gently*

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:38 (eleven months ago) link

Ha, I meant that John will actually be at this specific screening!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:40 (eleven months ago) link

Ah now that is true!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:42 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

Okay, good news for folks if you've not seen it yet:

"It Came From Aquarius Records" the feature length documentary about the beloved, esoteric San Francisco record store announces its streaming debut via Amazon Prime begins in July.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:39 (ten months ago) link

yay! i will finally get to see it!

sarahell, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

I'm so looking forward to seeing this, though looks like that Amazon thing didn't quite happen yet. This was posted on the official Facebook just yesterday:

This was a nice surprise!! Another ‘best of’ award for It Came From Aquarius Records!! Thanx a time to the folks at #internationaldocumentaryfilmfestival !Look for the film in the coming months in Amazon - deets soon!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:06 (nine months ago) link

Does the doc talk about when Windy and a couple others protested the Job's Daughters*/Sun City Girls (?) show by throwing paint at the performers for performing in yellow face/kabuki?

My memory of this is v. hazy, pretty sure it was Bottom Of The Hill in the 90s, not having any luck finding anything on the internet of course.

*ft members of TFUL282, Caroliner, The Double U, etc.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:34 (nine months ago) link

It was a different TFUL282 offshoot:

http://www.markprindle.com/heavenly.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iw9-mzMgZc

jabers, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 02:51 (eight months ago) link

Wow thank you jabers.... My memory is obviously rather compromised in my convalescence.

But just 👀 at this BK quote:

And I thought, "Here's someone who runs an underground record store, selling odious shit like Pavement and the Mountain Goats, and she considers herself less of an assimilationist than Indians running an Indian music store in Nashville? Or a Cantonese opera singer from Kowloon?"

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 03:16 (eight months ago) link

Well that's all a snapshot in time, isn't it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 03:36 (eight months ago) link

Brently went on to be in Neung Phak fwiw

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 04:08 (eight months ago) link

thats not B.O.T.H. tho right?

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 11:26 (eight months ago) link

Chameleon which was on Valencia btw 19th & 20th which turned into Amnesia (anyone remember The Chatterbox?).

In my mind I confused the show with Sun City Girls/3 Day Stubble show at BOTH which was also CONTROVERSIAL.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 13:47 (eight months ago) link

I think Pants Yell were on this label. Their show at the Cake Shop was an early memory.

youn, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 13:53 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

So the official Facebook page mentioned some "cool news" coming in September that never materialized, and nothing at all since. It'd be really nice if 2024 was finally the year it was able to be seen without traveling to sparse private screenings.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:00 (four months ago) link

I'd gladly pay to stream it. And I'd really gladly pay for a reprint of the "new wave music is our specialty" shirt!

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Friday, 5 January 2024 06:06 (four months ago) link

Yeah, I'm absolutely ready to pay for watching this in any format.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:15 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Heh, guess this thread will be just me bumping it for my periodic disappointment over it seemingly being stuck perpetually in limbo.

Even the official Facebook page for it, which used to update on upcoming screenings and developments has turned into just updates on what the guy who runs it is listening to/reading.

Even a word of encouragement that things are in the works would be nice, but I guess this thing is just kinda dead now.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 February 2024 00:44 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Ha, and here is said word of encouragement. Looking at August 2024 on a streaming service yet to be determined. From the official Facebook page:

Finally! I can finally say that the Aquarius Records doc will be hitting the streaming networks in August 2024. Locked in a distributor - MVD Entertainment Group - who is helping get this thing out there. Stay tuned for details on the streaming premiere date and what channels will carry it!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:20 (three weeks ago) link


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