Mark E, The Revenge & Slow-Motion House/Disco

But there are a host of excellent new labels and artists kicking about
now, especially on the slo-mo house scene who are making excellent music. Labels like
Prime Numbers and Trus’Me and artists like Mark E, Linkwood, The Revenge and Red Rack
Em. Their sound joins the dots in different ways between Moodymann style house, Detroit
techno, deep house and disco edits.

I was just going to start a Mark E thread, but that quote made me think it was worth broadening it out, and maybe this stuff is different enough from other well-covered trends to be worth talking about.

So S/D, C or D etc.

Basically I just love the really slow, but still quite driving stuff.

At first, I was kind of oblivious to the edit genre and was cooped up at home making these dark insular Theo-esque beat down swirlers, spending hours in a smoky haze listening to the same loop over and over. It was only when I didn't know how to end one of these loop marathons that I just dropped the original track in at the end, and [Womack and Womack edit] 'Scared' was born.

Plus if anyone wants to share R&B Drunkie that would be great ... I've only heard it on mixes.

And I haven't actually heard all the Jisco stuff, apart from The Revenge track. What's good?

So anything that's too slow to be regular house, and too house to be nu disco - edits or original productions - could be discussed here.

Mark E is an amazing DJ, mostly played faster stuff than his own productions, but he dropped one slo-mo track near the end was just right in context and really kept the energy going. The Detroit Experiment remix is lovely.

jamie where is that initial quote from?

i've thought of starting a mark e thread for a while too. that low motion disco remix from last year seems like the prime example for this stuff. total opposite to all the floaty balearic stuff that's around - really tense and wound-up.

i'd been wondering if mark e himself was a one-off but in the last couple of months there's been a bunch of stuff come out that's related to the revenge and 6th borough project in particular, it does seem like there's more of a scene of sorts behind it. (i haven't heard much of it though so i can't really expand beyond that.) plus there was that linkwood RA podcast, which is fantastic.

trus'me seems a bit more reverent to the whole KDJ/theo thing. too reverent maybe.

And I haven't actually heard all the Jisco stuff, apart from The Revenge track. What's good?

EVERYTHING, I own and severely appreciate the following

Scared
(Mark E's first and possibly best edit of Womack & Womack's "Baby I'm Scared Of You")

Ray Gun/Touch
(More dubby disco action, slightly faster, not as remarkable as others but still great in sets)

Cadillac/Planets
(Quite possible The Revenge's most irresistible floor filler, put them on my radar at least)

Nightflight/Unfinished Edits.../Savin the Day
(More upbeat disco edits, including an edit of the track from Ghostbusters that I love)

You're Welcome
(Newcomer to Jisco Eddie C comes with "Let Your Mind Be Free" which has an incredible breakdown)

also check out my blog, i post a lot of stuff like this regularly, including today's post!

http://www.discohorror.com

r&b drunkie (aka dopest song everrrrrrrr) - http://www.sendspace.com/file/hbaicf

i was just about to do that!

that quote up there may be from this recent interview: http://ultraastrum.blogspot.com/2009/03/black-country-boy-mark-e.html

love mark e. not a duff track yet. golden ears this guy.

i'm game for any of the revenge/6th borough/craig smith stuff. search: just a memory, rocky mountain drifter, planets, do it to the max, Hit Em' (6th Borough Project Mix).

the mark e remix of think twice is my recent favorite of his.

the horn break at 4:00 in just a memory is pretty much the most sublime thing

as far as revenge mixes and radio shows go, they are a bit hit and miss (too much talking on the radio shows). the ooft that's house mix from a few months ago is fun. http://ooft.blogspot.com/ is one of those that when a new post comes up on my reader it's a must-download

i disagree with san frandisco above about mark e's "touch" not being as remarkable as the others, that track is definitely a favorite of mine. the hit:miss ratio with these guys' physical releases is amazingly high, even if you kinda have to sift through the podcasts/radio shows.

i haven't heard much from red rack em, can anyone reccomend anything in particular?

could anyone share the remix? the pressure dub is on youtube, but i have yet to hear the remix

psych, you're right man, i meant really in relative terms really. his scared edit is quite possible one of my favorite edits, like of all time, and Smiling, which came after is also like incredible. touch and ray gun for anyone else would be great tracks, but for mark e they seem almost pedestrian

but they're still great, i still play them out

also DO NOT forget about his Sun Shadow edit on Creative Use

http://www.discogs.com/Unknown-Artist-Sun-Shadow/release/1346565

has anyone heard the slave 1 release? i never bought but it's gotten good reviews

OR his RA Podcast, which is like uggggghhhh all slow motion loopy amazingness

btw, my gift to this thread...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x2g0J4HhKuI/R3GHzH28OaI/AAAAAAAACoo/m3Mu_RYvMMM/s400/CS276693-01A-BIG.jpg

sun shadow is great, agreed. also worth mentioning is his 'love the action' mix for cool in the pool... http://www.coolinthepool.com/markeinterview2.html.

also, here's a nice little feature on golf channel records i found the other day that is kinda relevant to this thread i spose... http://ultraastrum.blogspot.com/2009/03/fore-golf-channel-records.html

this is my favorite kinda stuff right now.

i'm currently uploading all the mark e and revenge/ooft stuff i have. also super in love with a fudge fingas track that samples marvin gaye.

great! i'm going to up a few of my favorite revenge sets this weekend

here's the mark e mp3s i've found

01 R&B Drunkie (Mark E).mp3
01 Slave 1.mp3
1-01 Sun Shadow (Mark E Edit).mp3
Baby I'm Scared Of You (Mark E Edit).mp3
holy jungle (mark e dub).mp3

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xo1z7n

also really feeling the bside of this one.

http://www.vinylfrance.com/details.php?art=24320

here's the revenge stuff i have

http://www.sendspace.com/file/qk6lcg

02 La Isla Bonita (The Revenge Rework).mp3
02 The Snowman Rework.mp3
Brothers Gonna Work It Out (The Revenge Rework).mp3
Cadillac (The Revenge Rework).mp3
Funky Space Reincarnation (OOFT Music Edit).mp3
Georgie porgy (ooft rework).mp3
Inherit The Wind (Revenge Rework).mp3
Lost In Music (The Revenge Rework).mp3
Love You More (The Revenge Rework).mp3
One Of These Nights (Revenge Rework).mp3
Savin' The Day (The Revenge Flat Top Mix) 1.mp3
Skylarking (The Revenge Caribbean Sunrise Rework).mp3

btw, i got all these from blogs and stuff, i know the whole uploading thing is frowned upon now, but i'm just letting people stay lazy

mark e + revenge mixes link to same Revenge.zip file 116MB

so much love.
i am clearly going to have to have another listen to the mans stuff, given that seeing this thread pop up all the time is going to do my fucking head in.

got that ghost note just for the mark e side. and it patiently builds to awesomeness. so so good.

i like his take on edits in the interview. like, with hip hop and (esp older) house and tons of other sample-based dance stuff there wasn't really the need to call them edits when you take loops and do your own thing with them. maybe too much of this stuff is referred to as edits than should be. of course "edit" is on everyone's tip of the tongue lately. and there's threads and fights about it everywhere already so i'll just shut up about it now.

in addition to that love the action mix psych mentions, a couple other of his mixes from '07 and thereabouts are rad. resident advisor and beats in space in particular. and peppered with his stuff.

here's that RA podcast

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m39g3d

T/S beardo vs slo-mo

Betty Botox - Music is Music

this beats in space may be my fave. the way it goes from funkadelic through this weird, meandering loops thing into the orb remix is pretty wild.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/swiqt7

dude, fuck the whole uploading frowned upon bs. thanks everyone on these. making my friday.

sorry, here's the mark e zip

http://www.sendspace.com/file/e4oimj

"T/S beardo vs slo-mo"

slo-mo!! went on a mark e beatport binge yesterday.

Thanks for the sendspace correction and thanks to everyone for making these mixes easy to grab.

So this is a thread for people who wish they were Theo but aren't nearly as good? Exciting. R&B Drunkie is my jam tho, I also had to pick up the JJ 12" to mix in with it.

i think what i love most about this genre is the bpms could be considered practically downtempo, but the way the tracks are arranged gives them that awesome chugging energy that makes you want to dance, at like 95 bpms (or faster)

Real question: is this stuff analagous to chopped-and-screwed hip-hop?

I don't mean "does it sound like it," more "are there parallels." Seems like it to me. I like this stuff a lot, the little I've heard. And of course the Mark E RA Podcast was tremendous.

totally forgot about this dude from LA (from the podcast), anyone have any of his other records, i've heard big things and some sell for $$$ on discogs?

cole medina - love you inside out

matos lemme get back to you after i put on these mp3s and sip on some codeine

xxpost

i have been mixing this stuff every other wednesday night at Seattle's Grey Gallery. Last night I started at 91bpm and moved through the Lissvik mix of Fever Ray into some Meanderthals, Rune Lindbaek, Cousin Cole, Revenge edits and more. Highlight of the set for me was going from Sabres of Paradise - Edge 6 into the Pressure Drop mix of Why Can't We Live Together. Set finished at 107bpms with the Revenge edit of One of These Nights.

*set also included Reggie Dokes - Black Children of the Ghetto which sounded much better over the PA than it has on my headphones.

Reggie Dokes blows all these other guys away. He's possibly my favorite producer at this point.

sounds like a good night. was the crowd into it? and woah has lissvik remixed anything else? xposts

yes, the crowd were into it. by 'crowd' i mean my dj partner, my girlfriend, 2 of her friends and the bartender.

d lissvik mix of fever ray isnt amazing

The Red Rack Em mix for Cool in the Pool is great as well, treading the (arguably non-existent) line between this sound and Theo/Moodymann.

what don't you like about it space cowboy?

matos: i think it depends on the artist really. some of the tracks are tripped out chopped up disco edits and some are super-linear slow house.

on the cole medina tip, if you can find his karen carpenter mix, get it! it's great

what don't you like about it space cowboy?

i dunno, just not that interesting, i like the original more... again it's not BAD it's just not up to expectations (which are really high for d lissvik)

http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Cole-Medina-15-Upgrade/release/454721

this is the one im interested in but havent heard, so i don't wanna blow $30+ on it

Just went back to check what else i played and remembered i got some positive feeback from One Night At The Raw Deal by Twisted Wires.

san frandisco: it's on the way

Huge fan of Mark E's "Slave 1."

http://www.sendspace.com/file/dta0a8

just used "slave 1" in a mix!

I always think Mark E being from Manchester makes a lot of sense cos his stuff feels so like the Unabombers type of music, in a really huge way. I recommend people here check out Electric Soul 1 and 2 (not heard some of the later CDs.) I don't usually go for downtempo "nu soul" or whatever but those mixes are the more than acceptable face with lots of house/disco stuff too...

Man, I forgot how good "R&B Drunkie" is -- I've been looking for that for ages, too. Thanks!!!

my parents play the fuck out of all this stuff. when i was young and experimenting with cool edit pro dad used to get me to loop his favourite bits from his records. just wish i had a delay and and a filter. could have been 13 year old moodymann.

i have been mixing this stuff every other wednesday night at Seattle's Grey Gallery

brotherlovesdub, what time? I play every Wed at Havana, across the street, from 7 to 9 p.m., just playing whatever I want, sit-down radio-DJ style. I should obv. swing by if you're on after 9!

i start at 9 and mix until 10:30, then again after midnight. we're losing the weekly after may and will go to a monthy in june. since i mixed this week, I won't mix again until the week after next. next week is dj struggle and d'jeronimo though, and they play all sorts of incredible deep house ala reggie dokes, prime numbers etc. great dj's.

Good to know, thanks.

Nyers - mark e gonna be at santos week after next

not to be mr spam dude but roman flugel's mix here is in this style and v nice

since there is a little bit of dj cole medina / scott k discussion on the thread, anybody have a copy of his (limited to 1000) edit of james brown's "satisfied", as seen here?

grabbing now, ronan. btw, i don't think mark e is from manchester. in/around birmingham maybe?

ah my bad, I was sure that he was all this time.

would looove to hear more unabombers btw, all i seem to have is that 'electric chair saved my life' from last year. which is good, but probably wouldn't have connected them to this 'slo mo' business based on the mix or anything

yeah I guess it's not really connected, I do think specifically Mark E's mixes are quite similar to theirs though, just the source material for his edits and stuff.

I re-listened to the Roman Ronan mix last Friday by coincidence and noted how codeine-disco-y it was!

that sick dub delay band 12" totally fits in here, right?

san frandisco: it's on the way

thanks!!!

I've been away from a computer over the long weekend, but thanks for all the links, uploads and recommendations!

jamie where is that initial quote from?

It's from Dicky Trisco, from his mix on Cool in the Pool with Pete Herbert
http://www.coolinthepool.com/radio.html

i think what i love most about this genre is the bpms could be considered practically downtempo, but the way the tracks are arranged gives them that awesome chugging energy that makes you want to dance

This nails exactly what I find compelling about this stuff.

For my money, Beat Down and Deja Vu are the best Mark E tracks. So good.

And there are a ton of Revenge tracks to stream here http://soundcloud.com/the-revenge

thx for that Cole Medina, moonship. been lookin for that Buffalo Bill track for a while now, I think it was on a Rub N Tug mix a few years ago

btw, my gift to this thread...
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Friday, May 1, 2009 6:49 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

holy fuck that first linkwood track is AMAZING. is that a mizell bros edit?

yah it's this right?

shit, maybe not! same damn chords

actually this, which mizells prob have nothing to do w/

yeah lol was just about to post that. still bugging me where exactly i heard it before. guess i have another reason to spring for that leo's sunship lp.

anyone going to see mark e tomorrow @ santos?

just realized that this tune fits this thread perfectly...

Tiger + Woods - Come Down

no idea who 'tiger and woods' are, but if you combine this, golf channel records, and john daly we have a good argument for a genuine golf fetish within the genre.

the original is good too-

i really love the mark e podcast but i swear to god i downloaded it ages ago, and recently couldn't find it anywhere on my HD, downloaded it again this week and the same thing has happened. Either I'm going senile or my computer hates disco edits.

is that the one that comes tagged as *** Love The Action *** ? Could be the *** causing an issue.

i'm downloading it again from the link on this thread so i'll check if that's the case.

best thing about disco edits is that they can turn a piece of shit like "love you inside out" into the greatest song ever.

I re-listened to the Roman Ronan mix last Friday by coincidence and noted how codeine-disco-y it was!

― rebel without a cape (sic), Sunday, May 3, 2009 10:48 PM Bookmark

yeah, just reposting to say that the roman flugel mix is my mix of the year so far ... so fucking sick

yeah i haven't heard many mixes this year but that flugel one is so FRESH sounding

did i miss a link?

it's on local garcia's blog, which i think is still "house is a feeling"

lol local garda; here it is

apologies if i overstepped link etiquette

thanks! i hadn't realized local garda = ronan...

after listening to this stuff for the past week or two I gotta admit I think most of those Revenge edits are pretty pointless. the original Rene & Angela is about 1000x better than their version. the exception is the Eagles one, that's pretty sweet (reminds me of the Tiedye dub of Tom Petty)

best thing about disco edits is that they can turn a piece of shit like "love you inside out" into the greatest song ever.

cosign x 1000

isn't the eagle one sorta a mashup of the eagles and buffalo stance?

i think me being an earnest tom petty fan has kept me from checking out the "don't come around here no more" edit (a song i loathe in the first place) but i remember someone on ilx "threatening" to unleash their edit of "you got lucky" a year or so ago and i would sure like to hear that.

best thing about disco edits is that they can turn a piece of shit like "love you inside out" into the greatest song ever
ok, i haven't heard the edit, but if this is such a piece of shit, how can performing a re-edit magically turn it into the greatest song ever? is it the vocals that need to be removed? drums ? everything? this ventures into the weird in-between re-edits --> dub ---> remix discussion which i think happened already but whatever. i am drunk btw

seperates the wheat from the chaff. there are some really cheesy moments on the original

vs

yeah ok i'm just trying to level out the hyperbole

so is there an edit of "lowdown" that just extends the intro and removes the "cheezy" bridge yet?

I wrote this last year attempting to explain the Bee Gees re-edit's appeal: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/its-a-hit/Content?oid=643670. Basically, he swamps the thing in so much echo, isolates so many appealing musical aspects (the flecking wah-wah guitar, string zings, a clomping beat he doubles with a machine), and reshapes everything. The original is melba toast; the re-edit is the E hitting.

Glad you all like that mix, it's so well done, been playing it so much since the weather's got good.

The Revenge's recent mix for Beats In Space is great too.

Anyone have his "Funk On A Whole Nu Level" track handy? Is a Warren G Regulate re-edit, can't find it anywhere (he posted it on the ooft blog ages ago but I missed it)

Another recommendation:
Ray Mang - Angel
http://www.flexx.be/item/reg006

xposts. good piece on the bee gees edit matos, agree completely.

seperates the wheat from the chaff. there are some really cheesy moments on the original

― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:33 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is like when u sent me the careless whisper edit w/out the sax and i said "man i love the sax on this song" and the same time where you said "this great edit removes the cheesy sax"

ye olde one man's cheeze is another man's fromage conundrum

still dont "get" people who hate the sax on careless whisper frankly

btw i saw mark e on saturday night--put on a fine show but not amazing. i drank too much vodka and ate a bag of fries afterwards.

plazzTT, you may find that edit on this page: http://rhythmsektion.com/?paged=2

btw i saw mark e on saturday night--put on a fine show but not amazing. i drank too much vodka and ate a bag of fries afterwards.

how were the fries?

brotherlovesdub thank you!

thanks for letting me know about it. between that mix and the tom petty dub edit, i'm loving my morning.

btw i saw mark e on saturday night--put on a fine show but not amazing. i drank too much vodka and ate a bag of fries afterwards.

how were the fries?

― Local Garda, Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:36 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they were OK--mcdonalds--made right there so a little bit hot at first. dunno im not usually a big mickey ds fries fan but these were better than usual, properly crispy, not overly salty.

must check those out, thanks.

it was the mcd's on canal street near lafayette--the one with the sign in chinese lettering

i like to just trim the middle bits out of my fries and piece together the ends. addition by subtraction.

i add echo effects to my fries

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pc-qDCkIlWs/SFEkzSYXFeI/AAAAAAAAAdA/lqAyvw3BaAs/s400/cover.jpg

^^ <3

i can't help but wonder as i eat fries, "will i be enjoying these fries in 10 years time?"

i'm always looking to see what else i have to go with my fries. sometimes i just arrange all the starch and mix 'n' match until something has that flava.

not feelin the "funk on a whole nu level" track. maybe the original doesn't need an edit, but seems like it's a no brainer that a michael mcdonald loop would be amazing. wasted opportunity, imo

I agree. I was not stoked on that remix. The 'Jamming' mix with the Michael McDonald chorus left intact is the best mix in my opinion.

original recipe mcdonald fries

"i can't help but wonder as i eat fries, "will i be enjoying these fries in 10 years time?"

― Local Garda"

hopefully if they are somehow contaminated with tape worms, the answer to that will be "no" but somehow i bet we're not that lucky.

i hope you get tapeworms on your bank holiday

speaking of parasites, i think it's great that Ronan likes this kind of music now. good for him!

ronans dj name is actually "dj parasite"

sorry you dont have in-n-out, whose fries are made from potatoes they slice right there in front of you by religious people... mmmmmm tasty

http://rossblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/800px-flickr_hellochris_202508906-in-n-out_triple_cheeseburger_fries.jpg

btw ronan mix looks good, that mole track is sooooo dope

charming as usual, tom

pipecock what are you favorite fries?

best fries ever are both pgh spots: The O and the fries at the Potato Patch stands at Kennywood. classic.

my understanding is that those are pale, soulless ripoffs of better fries made by black guys in detroit

your understanding would be wrong. if you want to question the O's black cred, i strongly suggest you go there on a friday night around 1am and do so outloud.

goddamnit do i want some in n out right now. cept you gotta spring for the animal style fries... http://d0.biggestmenu.com/00/00/a7/7c8a4ae0da7d4bf3_m.jpg

If those fries had better come correct if they plan on taking over Chicago.

http://www.roadfood.com/photos/11027.jpg

now that's what fries are supposed to look like. i get em with gravy, the bomb.

<img src="http://www.foodieprints.com/media/2/thumb_20081028-cheeseFries.jpg"; class="noborder"></img>

^^ reminds me of the Naked Music tour. big ole brick topped with cheddar.

http://www.foodieprints.com/media/2/thumb_20081028-cheeseFries.jpg

can't forget my love for garlic fries from pac bell
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ZeK__Kjd2Nk/SOE-ZsdbEPI/AAAAAAAAEKQ/Cl_izFZeXWg/DSC01942.JPG

fucking love currywursts...that fusion of cultures that only berlin can offer

ronans dj name is actually "dj parasite"

max otm. my mix album is entitled "here's your host"

pipecock has eaten fries with black people at 1 am; who dares question his cred?

It's not about the fries themselves, but the community that has invested in preparing them, packaging them, eating them, and sometimes digging them out of crates.

Europeans don't get this, they think the experience of fries is all about some new seasonal flavouring.

i get all mah fries for free offa the internet. sometimes i worry that i'm missing out on a broader more meaningful cultural experience when i get my fries this way, but really, who can say no to all these fantastic fries??

I only like fries from the '70s that have been re-edited and had echo added to them.

(irish potato famine joke goes here)

Sorry to jump into the middle of a good round of pipecock-baiting, but I like this Mark E "R&B Drunkie" Janet thing a lot!

kindof amazed at how long you guys have been talking about fries just to rip the piss out of someone

"Sorry to jump into the middle of a good round of pipecock-baiting, but I like this Mark E "R&B Drunkie" Janet thing a lot!

― yo is it true rev got sbed by a wite kid after a ilx beef?????? (The Reverend)"

it's possibly the only great record mentioned thus far in this thread.

yeah shit is awesome.

tom, thanks to you, in two weeks i will be eating O fries for the first time in probably 10 years, more like 15, just based on that picture alone. i can taste them just looking at them. damn you.

kindof amazed at how long you guys have been talking about fries just to rip the piss out of someone

actually if you read the thread it started as a good humoured joke not ripping the piss out of anyone

btw yes i'd like if we can introduce irish famine now please? the tragic event has typically faddish taste in music. enjoys a beer though.

ronan has received death threats two times in a week from dance music extremists and all we can talk about is fries!!!

the fries will kill me first

so hot coins (check out "You Can't Save Your Soul" for slo-mo pounding funky house) and the revenge both have hip hop as as genres on their myspace pages. now i don't go by these religiously, but does anyone has anyone from the UK seen them live? do they throw hip hop in with their sets? bpm-wise it seems to make sense, but i haven't heard much distinctly hip hop from either of them

"yeah shit is awesome.

tom, thanks to you, in two weeks i will be eating O fries for the first time in probably 10 years, more like 15, just based on that picture alone. i can taste them just looking at them. damn you.

― mikebee (BATTAGS)"

haha, i'll come with you to get 'em! love those fucking things....

dont get tapeworms!

in the Red Rack'em (aka hot coins) mix & interview on cool in the pool mentioned upthread he mentions his different aliases and says this:

Roughly speaking Hot Coins is the cosmic, balearic, electro disco stuff.

http://www.coolinthepool.com/redrackeminterview.html

a friend of mine just posted some thoughts to his facebook page, it's good stuff:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=604087574&ref=profile#/note.php?note_id=76640447886&ref=nf

***SPOILER*** if you have not seen the season finale, read no further. also there will be a small spoiler about stephen kings' THE STAND. i'll let ya know when i get there. ****

so, it all comes down to what john locke told walt in season one. the black rock vs. the white rock. good vs. evil. jacob vs. esau. we now have in place the pieces of the final war. we also have the shucking off of the sub-plots that have made the story so mind bending. of course that could be a bad thing for those of us who love that aspect of the LOST game. anyway, some observations.

RELIGION & PHILOSOPHY
we now know why egypt has been so important to the storytelling in lost. the egyptian book of the dead is the foundation of all the worlds dominant religions (i know some will debate its' importance to buddhism but heck, most folks who follow it don't consider buddhism a religion anyway). so, LOST is exploring the very nature of our religious tendencies. jacob as a christ like benevolent god. esau as the serpent. the island the garden of eden (or mu, or atlantis), a place of alchemy where scientific, magical, & spiritual properties co-exist.

the philosophy part is as simple & complex as free will versus pre-determination. jacob placed our heroes in their spots giving them the chance to make the right choices that will lead to their redemption. the choice is always theirs. esau manipulates the weak, seeing the human animal as a fixed system that will always make the same choices over & over again.

WHAT ILANA SAID TO RICHARD ALPERT
"what lies in the shadow of the statue ?"
alpert: "he who will protect/save us"
(thanks to all the latin scholars over at darkufo for that quick translation last night)
so, my take on this is that jacob is not only our heroes redemptive figure, he is humanity's redemptive figure. the island itself is the reset button or lynchpin for the entire world. jacob & esau fight not just for the souls of the castaways but for the fate of the entire world. will humanity break the cycle of constant war or find some form of redemption (what this redemption will look like i'm not sure of yet).

A MAN WHO THOUGHT HE WAS A GOD
eloise, widmore, ben, the so called leaders of the others have all thought themselves masters of the game. they have all tried to take control of the island. they are just wannabes. the chumps in the casino thinking they've got a system, when the house always wins. each was exiled in some manner for their hubris (though we have not witnessed eloise in this manner, so i'll reserve judgement on that one).

dude

sorry is the island a metaphor for frys? you lost me.

whoops wrong thread LOL

i almost read that! u bitch

sorry dudes!! mod delete post!!

holy. narrow escape, I have it taped to watch tonight!. luckily I saw the word "finale" and scrollllled

ronan this roman flugel mix is pretty sick. 12 minutes in and shit. just sayin

that sick dub delay band 12" totally fits in here, right?

― QE II, Sunday, May 3, 2009 4:19 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

definitely, i just picked this up used based on your recommendation and it is really great!

the other 12" on the tracky bottoms label looks nice too... http://www.discogs.com/Various-Acoustic-Boogie-EP/release/1387086

new mark e mix from the warm blog:
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/692573324/be638d5d305ccdac67f48e436be3296c

Thanks! That mix of Steam at 30mins is great.

take 20 minutes to get moving and then it flies. liked it a lot

ooh nice dreamy "spacer" loopiness coming in at 17

sic & i went to see The Revenge last weekend and one of his sets from that night is up here: http://www.pulseradio.net/studio/Co-Op#studio/Co-Op

i got there too late to hear most of it but it sounds pretty great!

noted that night: someone dubbing themself The Revenge should probably look big and intimidating, not like a kid bunking off his fourth-form revision:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/photos/2009/au090523co-opf/_mg_0002.jpg

(after handing over to Motorcitysoul he went and played another hour and a half in the front room, hope both's other sets get posted too)

I can't get enough of this stuff

me neither, Revenge's Regulate edit is THE SHIT.

The Revenge's BiS mix absolutely kills.

The Revenge is playing some 'upmarket' bar round my way in like a month. This is pretty cool but no-one will care

Regulate Edit left me wanting more or different or something. It just isn't nearly as good as the original version that includes the Michael McDonald chorus.

oh man, it's killing me this week, on nonstop repeat. :)

le o nard o?

is the regulate edit called something else? can't find it anywhere online

Pretty sure it's linked upthread.

ah yes, thanks! in case anyone else was wondering, it's:
http://rhythmsektion.com/archives/312

yea... definitely not into that one. still.

bummer. that's my jam! "if you smoke like i smoke, then you're high like every day...and if yo ass is a busta 213 will reg-u-late"....

plus new OOFT 12" on Instruments of Rapture is another winner...
http://ooft.blogspot.com/2009/06/ior003.html

regulators!!!

mount up

i really wanted to hate the Regulate edit, but it was actually pretty decent. i am, however, stuggling to figure out why someone thought that "Lost In Music" needed a filter house mix. MAKE IT STOP.

Do It To The Max is hypnotizing

the Atlantic Conveyor EP on Untracked is absolutely phenomenal. i'll be posting it to discohorror later today and will hit you guys back with a link

Great thread. R&B Drunkie has been my favorite track to play for almost a year now. Sounds way too good every time

the new Instruments of Rapture by the OOFT boys is another winner! not *quite* as good as "Just a Memory" for me (which Herb Alpert tune is that, btw?) but i'm feeling it. out soon...

R&B Drunkie is awesome. I emailed the record label to see if they were repressing the other week, but they haven't replied so I guess not.

kinda prefer the og janet track

Big Mark E interview here
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1069

i am, however, stuggling to figure out why someone thought that "Lost In Music" needed a filter house mix. MAKE IT STOP.

I agree! I haven't really heard anything by The Revenge that lived up to Night Flight, which is absolutely amazing.

man i found a white label much-faster rmx of 'love light in flight' about 2 yrs ago that i kinda prefer

what abt the revenge 'cadillac' track?? banger

but maybe i just dont like this sloooow stuff & shouldnt be in this thread

i really wanted to hate the Regulate edit,

― pipecock, Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:42 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

why?

Dan138zig: Pipecock
Pipecock: Dan138zig

you mean we're the same person?

I was introducing you as it seemed to me you couldn't have encountered him before if you needed to ask a question like that.

"kinda prefer the og janet track

― zzz (deej)"

i like both, i keep the Janet 12" next to R&B Drunkie in the box. i have been playing the Janet much more often recently.

"why?

― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr)"

i mean, that concept doesn't sound horribly ironic to you? it does to me. they pulled it off nicely tho, without sounding like a joke.

i didn't realise that they were behind that Cadillac joint. that's another one i don't care much for. there are so many better Hot Chocolate jams!

I was introducing you as it seemed to me you couldn't have encountered him before if you needed to ask a question like that.

― Chewshabadoo, Friday, July 3, 2009 1:45 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

hahaha, 99% of the internet know of pipecock.

cole medina DJ mix posted at DJH forums last week, 25 mins in so far = tiiiiiite

http://djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47164

new revenge rework of atmosfear's "dancing in outer space" up on http://www.discohorror.com but really check out the video to KRL's "Recession Beat" on the post. currently one of my summer jamz

Linkwood to release debut LP

wooot

so what's new?

anyone else feeling the popular people's front?

PPF up there with amplified orchestra for volume of quality edits, i reckon.

wish i'd actually bought 'a collage education' for excellent rework of 'love can't turn around'.

love 'back 2 back' and ruf dog 'dirty' 12"s (which i did get).

dirty is so insane!

which is the best version, tho?

impossible choice. maybe unabombers??

or maybe leo zero? would fit your more balearic tempo sets easily. they're all great!

So this is a thread for people who wish they were Theo but aren't nearly as good? Exciting.

― pipecock

just caught this ironic gem

So this is a thread for people who wish they were Theo dilla but aren't nearly as good? Exciting.

"just caught this ironic gem"

he warms our hearts from beyond the grave.

haha. i thought i was in this thread when i posted that

itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

mark e just released tons of stuff. i dig the freakin shriekin 12", and the one on endless flight (codsall juniors?) is growing on me

all instruments of rapture stuff from this year is also v good, tho the revenge seems to be falling off a bit with most of his other releases and remixes

also the don froth 12" from early this year is still doing it for me tho. and don't forget about the linkwood album!!!

Some of the MCDE Raw Cuts tracks are right up this street too

The recent Mark E 12" on Merc has a side ("track 1") that sounds like a slowed down house-y edit of an R-Tyme track!

I know I always post Juno links, but really if you go to their best selling Deep House page it is like a primer on this stuff.

http://www.drudgereport.com/siren.gif NEW FIRECRACKER EP ALERT http://www.drudgereport.com/siren.gif

are you talking about the intrusion dubs or something else? link?

it's a new one!

like an eagle! i'm stoked!

has everyone had a chance to listen to the linkwood full-length? totally willing to upload if need be

also just realized this came out earlier in the year- http://www.discogs.com/Ray-Mang-Mangled-Again/release/1806800. what i've heard is pretty stellar

so yeah, this is pretty much going to be the next big thing, i think, as the cosmic disco / balearic trend slowly dies down

so what's really good and new?

It's not super-new, but have you heard "Walk in Deepness" by Reggie Dokes? (on Prime Numbers) That is my jam. It's 120 BPM psychedelic jazz house, but sounds awesome pitched down.

The new Big Strick single on FXHE is very good as well. There are some techno tracks on it, but "A Walk Down Linwood" is definitely fitting for this thread. It came out on the FXHE comp earlier this year, but the new single has two versions. Beautiful keys.

Gotta agree with you tricky, that whole EP is pretty mindblowing. Its a shame we might lose him to making R'n'B.

I guess its not a shame for the autotune cru though, I'm kinda curious what his stuff might sound like.

Apparently he's a big Jam and Lewis head.

Back when I still had a weekly I played Jam and Lewis's Latin mix of Patti Austin Heat of Heat all the time. The semi-empty bar appreciated that, my friends begged me to play dubstep instead.

But that kind of late 80s modern soul slots in like a dream with this kind of thing.

Obviously with the Janet edit.

Anybody care for a FLAC of the track?

if this is the next big thing it needs a stupid made up name

hypnagogic disco

Who are you talking about "losing to R'n'B" Siah?

Reggie Dokes.

The John Daly - Sea & Sky album is pretty good. Can't wait for the Juju and Jordash album but I anticipate that being a bit faster in the bpm range.

yo dawgs, this is deep house

Is there an interview or something somewhere where he mentions going RnB?

speaking of 'yo dawgs, this is deep house', the Lerosa mix up on InfiniteStateMachine is pretty much Slow Motion House. image even says Dead Slow. It's not very well mixed but the tracks are excellent.

as good as some of this stuff is its a boring thing to be 'next' imo

http://www.popyourfunk.com/2009/08/interview-reggie-dokes-psychostasia-recordings/

A: Yes, I am currently producing R&B, Pop and Hip Hop in Atlanta. That was one of my reasons for coming to Atlanta, Georgia. I appreciate most genres of music, and it has always been a passion of mine to pursue and challenge myself creatively. Right now as far as R&B producers of the past, it would have to be Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Baby Face and L.A. Reid and Teddy Riley. In the present it would have to be Tricky Stewart and The Dream, Danja Handz, Timbaland and the Neptunes.

Thanks for that Siah. I had actually seen that interview, intended to read it, and never did.

motor city drum ensemble album japan-only? grrrrr.

LO NRG

http://www.protentialfootball.com/images/Applause.gif

golf (clap) channel?

slo fi

new new and good good, i'm trying to track down this limited 7" series by the mole that features eddie C (see jiscomusic)

the label is called 7 inches of love, handstamped. the second release sounds the best, 3 and 4 have just been released at Hardwax

here are some samples of 2
http://www.phonicarecords.com/product/view/58480

also wolfmusic is another label featuring a new dude? (KRL) along with the regulars of the slo-mo scene.

also this mix from Eddie C looks pretty rad:

http://keep-it-deep.blogspot.com/2009/10/eddie-c-keep-it-deep-guest-mix.html

Tracklist:

Side 1

1. Kip Hanrahan - This Night Comes Out of Both of Us (American Clave)
2. Eddie C - Hold Me (7 Inches of Love)
3. The Mole - Nice and Easy (7 Inches of Love)
4. Ted Pilsner - Hello My Love (7 Inches of Love)
5. Koosh - Real Dub (7 Inches of Love)
6. Super Value - 004 B2 (Super Value Special Edits)
7. Mark E - AA (Merc)
8. ? - GTR Track (Nonstop Blazin' Beats) (feat. the Ramm:Ell:Zee)
9. Mark E - Sunshadow (Creative Use)
10. Theo Parrish - The Rink (Sound Signature)
11. Ashley Beedle - Everything is Ok (Cosmic Boogie)

Side 2

12. Mojo's Interlude
13. KRL - I Wanna Be With You (Wolf Music)
14. Eddie C - Never Let Go (Flashback)
15. Be - All the Thrills (Wolf Music)
16. Atmosphere - Dancing in Outerspace (the Revenge rework) (Wolf Music)
17. Tantra - Hills of Katmandu (Unidisc)
18. Ray Mang - Awright? (rej007)
19. Mudd - 54B (Ray Mang version) (Leng)
20. 40 Thieves - Don't Turn it Off (Chinatown)
21. A Number of Names - Sharevari (Capriccio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhHnnCeu24Y

Very much enjoying this new-ish Mark E joint. Very lush as usual.

hey guys dont forget what has to be the best track of last year: Holding back my Love- Tensnake.

the new mark e comp "works 2005-2009" is a nice intro for newcomers

can someone convince me why im wrong 2 think 'heard 1 heard them all' about mark e

Xpost: Mark E - Rubber Bullet

deej OTM, but the comp has its moments - particularly the second track.

the whole comp sounds fucking fantastic in my car. bass!

should've put "scared" on it, though

agree in that he's pretty samey tone/feel wise. it's often the source material that makes his tracks add up, but i'm ok with dance producers having a certain groove they hit repeatedly in slightly different ways. i think he's best when his samples give some extra rhythmic push (the piano pedals in "you") or he's a little more active on the drums (slave1 snares).

i would've put beat down on there myself.

THIS:http://www.xlr8r.com/podcast/2010/02/soul-claps-boston-mix

... is great. what you need.

Soul Clap: smooth, slow-burning discoinfused house bizniess from Boston

yeah this is ill

'extravaganza' is great

whoa didnt realize it was a jamie foxx song

yeah that whole mix is killer.... so much good stuff in there: Extravaganza is indeed great; so are:

SECT "Hi-Fi All Around" (Culprit)
SECT "Man Of Wisdom" (Culprit)
Gadi Mizrahi & Soul Clap "Yer Body (Kills Me)" Double Standard)

haven't made past half way yet, 'cos keep skipping back to listen to those 3 !

okay, i'm completely in love with the Soul Clap dudes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXPzCYT3E-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZaD_8bjKOE

The Revenge - Night Flight.mp3

soul clap-love light - original mix.mp3

Cottam is putting out some gems. Plenty to hear on his Soundcloud. And here's someone's link to his new Causes of Colour mix that's making the rounds: http://hotfile.com/dl/39974436/0eebcb0/Causes_of_Colour_Mix_26.04.2010.mp3.html

That Manolo "Lose Myself" 12" on Delusions of Grandeur is STILL destroying me on a regular basis, blows up the club on a decent system too, and all at 104 BPM!!

Cottam is putting out some gems. Plenty to hear on his Soundcloud. And here's someone's link to his new Causes of Colour mix that's making the rounds: http://hotfile.com/dl/39974436/0eebcb0/Causes_of_Colour_Mix_26.04.2010.mp3.html

― andrew m., Wednesday, 28 April 2010 20:00 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

this is real real good.

wow the cottam EPs are quality

wow, they really are quality, am greatful for the heads up

no reason other than I've been frequently bumpin' to this for the last 2 weeks; <3 it so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sua1sGDomLc

I myself have been bumpin' to RnB Drunkie for the last 2 weeks; <3 it so much all the same.

i cant get w/ these remixes of traxx that not only are better in original forms but have already been remixed

Guys PLEASE can someone upload The Revenge ' Funk On A Whole Nu Level '

I have checked that site and the link is dead.

It would make an old disco head very happy. I have some cool stuff to share also.

Many thanks if you can.

Hit me up iamdus✧✧✧@hotm✧✧✧.c✧✧.

Oops.

it is iamdusted at hot mail dot come

have you tried s l s k

I have done mate. yes.

Have checked EVERYWHERE unfortunately

Just found it.

Awesome.

so works vol. 2 is coming out soon i hear? "scared" made it on there; no "beat down" or "touch", though

Soul Clap playing T-Bar closing party: http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?176072

+ Floating Points

Any LDN ilxors going / wanna come with?

I'm broke but thinking of treating myself to this.

What's current and excellent?

quite recent;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNeFKRNT7sk&playnext=1&list=PL1178A2C3C78EE594&index=52

there's some cool shit on this p sherburne mix: http://soundcloud.com/psherburne/not-as-moody-as-they-make-me-out-to-be-mix

The Mark E remix of Shit Robot's Take 'Em Up isn't floating around yet, but it's a killer

Any more for any more before 2010 hits the floor?

cottam 4?

i know theo parrish transcends the 'slo mo house' genre, but this was recently reissued...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kQR7RidIU

love 'stop bajon'! there's a version by Norm de Plume just released a last month that i like too:

http://soundcloud.com/norm-de-plume/tullios-theme

got Tornado Wallace's two recent 12s on Delusions of Grandeur. Loving them. Here's my two faves:

http://soundcloud.com/tornadowallace/tornado-wallace-always-twirling-preview
http://soundcloud.com/tornadowallace/tornado-wallace-paddlin-dog010-preview

mix I made the other day involving some folks mentioned on this thread recently:
http://soundcloud.com/ettiem/slow-sync-12-10-2010

i like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m9DgdtI6HM

a few favorites from this year:

Erdbeerschnitzel's been great, especially "To An End" and "The Edit"
Trujillo - "Baby You're Still The Same (Social Disco Club Sexual Flashback Mix)"
Lewie Day - "That's The Thing" (this went over big opening for Tensnake)
Bozzwell - "In My Cocoon" (not as loose or disco-derived as a lot of these, but a really nice 116bpm slow burn)
Rocha - Feel The Love (original and the Greg Wilson remix)
Kaine ft. Kathy Diamond - "Love Saves The Day" (the Mario Basanov mix is brighter and poppier, the Soul Clap mix wanders around and brings in a really unexpected breakbeat around 3:18)
Art Of Tones - "The World As I Live It"

what's the song at 28min. i've heard it so many times before. it's missing from the tracklist. in between Mount Kimbie – Carbonated & Jayson Brothers – The Game

http://www.factmag.com/2011/02/04/fact-mix-219-toro-y-moi/

Recloose - Cardiology (Isolée Mix)

ah! right, it was in Prins Thomas Presents Cosmo Galactic Prism. thanks

I still really want someone to do to Mariah Carey's "I'm That Chick" what Mark E did to Janet Jackson's "R&B Drunkie", the extended shimmery house edit with restrained use of the breathy vocals that I'm imagining would be awesome.

^ seems like 90s r&b edits could become a 'thing'. not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but i've been digging this lee foss edit of a keith sweat slow jam...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rioaDZtTJYo

I hope this does become a thing. That Lee Foss track also has a big pitch-shifted sample of Brownstone's "If You Love Me" through it.

it's been talked about on another thread (techno bobbins maybe?) - love that track to pieces, but could never place the sample so thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QjeJzCHmBc

hai guyz, can we squash using the word "edit" if it's just a sample and other parts (besides effects) have been added? thx

yea, i shouldn't have called the foss track an edit really. but it does touch on recognizable r&b samples, etc. it fits the thread so whatever

tiesto/erdeerschnitzel thing is funny. my lord does tiesto look like a douche- didn't blondes use tiesto footage for one of their videos last year?

i feel like i sat 2010 out completely and am just catching up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjHR_J5Q1RQ

ha, erik, not getting on you specifically, just hear it a lot

well it was sloppy, i admit.

that nicholas track is awesome. also just heard another rad track from that ep on the beautiful swimmers beats in space, which is also worth checking out

I guess Beautiful Swimmers does kinda fit this aesthetic? I love those dudes. I should start a Future Times thread.

you should! i was considering doing it too actually, so much good new stuff

Beautiful Swimmers/Future Times do a monthly here in DC and I always hear about a dozen tracks I need to ask about. Great stuff.

When and where's their DC monthly? Any chance it'll be when I'm there March 12-15? Looking for something to do besides watch matches and drink at the Lucky Bar.

I think the next on will be on the 16th, bummer

next ONE

Yeah, just found the U Street calendar. The only thing happening while I'm there is "Nouveau Riche," which doesn't appear to be my kinda scene. Oh well.

Why didn't anyone tell me about the Mark E remix of Annie's "Greatist Hit" from last year? Its obviously not nearly as good as you would dream, but still...

on the beats in space they mention a remix of teengirl fantasy's "cheaters" coming out soon, which has a very high probability of being amazing. speaking of which, can we talk about teengirl fantasy here? or is that more of a 'dance partisans' thread thing

yeah not sure they fit this thread but i just found out about teengirl fantasy recently and love them

if i were a wrestler, "cheaters" would be my walk-in music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_oNzk1q8F8

"Dancing in Slow Motion" is a jam

i tried looking this up the other day and couldn't remember, but that teengirl fantasy song samples like the orb or orbital or something. the video has a guy dancing in a field somewhere. anyone know what i'm talking about?

btw here is a thread for future times: FUTURE TIMES records: BEAUTIFUL SWIMMERS / MAXMILLION DUNBAR / PROTECT-U etc

k, it wasn't orb or orbital, it was underworld. and i can't remember who sampled it now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut1vAOHSNCw

you know what kicks ass?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHDVJMLhQ4

pretty sure it wasn't teengirl fantasy that sampled that underworld track, at least not on "cheaters"- i think the synth line is original in that song, the other part samples love committee i blv

cover version of "two months off" does indeed kick ass tho

ah! here it is. we're totally off track of this thread now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12YwyEREbag

good derail imo

I must say, I'm getting my hopes up for both the forthcoming Revenge and 6th Borough projects albums.

didn't know they were in the works... so many albums to look forward to this year what w/those 2, the soul clap/wolf + lamb dj kicks, art department, rub n tug (maybe) etc

and the obv one related to this thread being Mark E's LP due in May

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQI9Nj8Nfk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKbbXFY8fQ

so bummed i didn't find out till this morning that Lee Foss played at an after-hours club here last nite.

seeing Lee Foss & Jamie Jones next week!

and the obv one related to this thread being Mark E's LP due in May

yup just got an email on this

anticipating!

- - - - TRACKLIST - - - -

VINYL TRACKLIST (Vinyl comes with CD version of album)
A. Archway
B1. Belvide Beat
B2. Quatro
C1. Got To Get Me There
C2. Deny This
D. Black Moon

CD/Digital TRACKLIST:
01. Archway
02. Black Country Saga
03. Belvide Beat
04. Quatro
05. Got To Get Me There
06. Deny This
07. Black Moon
08. Oranges
09. The Day

Belvide Beat on vinyl will be amazing! Probably my favourite track he played on BiS last year

been listening to "Works 2005 - 2009" almost exclusively this week

this edit of Grace Jones' "La Vie En Rose" doesn't really fit this thread but its awesome regardless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b88O6TwxB58
(this youtube cuts off the last 50-60 seconds)

what is the title of the mark e album? is it self-titled?

ooh and belvide beat is the one with the alexander robotnick sample right? or at least it sounds like it, i remember reading that a ton of italo tracks used that "ah-ooh-wa" female vocal part

As long as there's at least one track on it up to the standard of "R&b Drunkie" or "Scared" this will be worthy of my time. I only found out a few weeks ago there's a second Works 2005-2009 compilation, which made for an ideal unexpected surprise.

http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2011/03/03/mark-e-readies-the-stone-breaker/

Psyched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMBSrFJPH0w

My interest is also piqued by the forthcoming Tiger and Woods album.

so, yesterday i was approached by a PR asking for my skype details as a german magazine wants to interview me about my album.
took a few minutes before the penny dropped.
can't deny i did have a thought to step up and do the interview and talk about my love for Foetus et al, as opposed to downtempo sunshine grooves.

haha! for real?

yup.
not the first time the confusion has happened.
normally, its 'hello, i like your music' type of emails, but this took things to a new (and possible fun) level.

love this so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn21kAljc4Q

I am down with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_SlwK0T4RI

Love those dark swells in that new Cottam so much.

This one on Kolour LTD is nice. Was skeptical but now loving Cole Medina's "True 2 the Disco"
http://www.discogs.com/Various-For-Your-Listening-Editainment/release/2731481

That revenge edit is great. He, along with 6th Borough project, are fast becoming my favourite producers/editors of the moment.

That actually reminded me of this slo-mo house jam from 6 years. Am I correct in hearing the same/similar samples in this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wrsdfS3oLg

Oh, I didn't know we had a thread about the Revenge. I've got their album somewhere but ain't listened to it yet.

xpost that samples this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqDFs6moiPI

Revenge album is OK, a nice collection of edits but a bit of a hodgepodge and not quite the deep-beat slo-mo jams we're used to from him. More along the lines of other fare from Z Records (Joey Negro's label). the Mark E album, on the other hand, is fucking great. most of the tracks hover around 115 but the slower ones are killer. Really digging it at the moment.
Other stuff that should be getting talked about in this thread:

Duff Disco
Dead Rose Music Company
Daniel Solar and his label Dikso (I believe it's his)
Sleazy Beats label
Eclectic Avenue label
LTJ, the Super Value and Small World Disco labels

posting some current jams below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQQwj6u0IBQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7ciItulY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKJ6HdmxC9I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpW7q6jeLYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMC0qygmQoQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS405qTk_hs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLlo9pnrUH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4uUEafbCzQ

loving that new Cottam as well...

btw, a little BSP - if you're in SF, i'll be playing this sort of stuff at the afterparty for the Sunset season opener on Sunday, at Milk starting around 9 or so. if you go to the Sunset party, head by afterwards for some slo-mo action!

that The Dead Rose Music Company is amazing! seriously.

dunno if the francis inferno orchestra track is necessary. the imagination track is pretty perfect on its own, but i've sorta been done w/straight edits for a long time now.

ordinary things by xxxy on ten thousand yen turns into a lovely slow house jam at -8

can't wait to play some of these tracks to a hotel crowd on friday. Think it'll really suit it.

Samples of the Mark E album: http://ghostly.com/releases/stone-breaker

Really anticipating this now, Black Moon sounds like it's bleeding sunshine and Oranges and Belvide Beat are blissed-out hazy acid workouts.

Belvide Beat is my jam!

http://soundcloud.com/lordoftheisles/lord-of-the-isles-i-was-in#

The Eddie C album is lovely - first half is slo-mo jams, then it gets a bit housier. Very hazy and bleary-eyed in the best possible way with lots of thick disco basslines.

^ i have been enjoying this lately as well, has anyone heard the revenge or soft rocks full lengths yet? i think those came out already, no? part of me is expecting to be let down by a lot of these releases but this eddie c thing is def encouraging

still can't get over the leadoff track, pretty damn slo mo and pretty damn awesome and also maybe balearic: http://soundcloud.com/elkoo/eddie-c-we-need-we

Hey everyone. Just discovered this site... this thread is pure gold! Not sure if it's been covered already but my starting contribution will be the following... Loads of great stuff out on Wolf Music at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIFga45PEVk

aloha, furb

Just listening to Prince - Strange Relationship and thinking one of these slow-bros needs to do a re-edit.

the revenge album is just ok on the whole, but the edit of "kilamanjaro" is considerably better than ok imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KazqO4547wg

Really into that Eddie C album. Space Shuttle is incredible. It sounds really familiar too, is it a sample of Ash Ra or Gottsching?

cant decide if i think this is sacrilege or not cuz the original is one of my fav songs ever made but these seems like a p dope edit. kinda hate when a song that is so heavily derivative is titled like it was an original composition or something though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx2bHdEb65U

not sure it belongs in here

i know its a month old but im not sure i get the appeal of that 'brothers gonna work it out edit' -- sounds like someone's fucking with the mixer & playing another track on top of it at the wrong speed. plus the greatest part of the original is the crazy tom pattern in the drums. maybe im not 'getting it' tho

maybe you just dont get it, deej

Really into that Eddie C album. Space Shuttle is incredible. It sounds really familiar too, is it a sample of Ash Ra or Gottsching?

i think it's "shuttle cock"

There's a free download of that CSLSX track over on their Soundcloud page

maybe you just dont get it, deej

― gr8080, Thursday, 5 May 2011 05:11 (13 hours ago) Permalink

perhaps you can explain it, gr8080

the only advantage i see is its prob easier to beatmatch

Really into that Eddie C album. Space Shuttle is incredible. It sounds really familiar too, is it a sample of Ash Ra or Gottsching?

i think it's "shuttle cock"

Oh yeah, that's definitely it. Thanks!

speaking of "ShuttleCock", anyone willing to share the Private Tapes version with? Lost mine in a crash last year and can't track it down.

brother's gonna work it out revenge edit is great because it's trippy and cinemascopic and pretty dramatic when the strings kick in towards the end. It's pretty far out from the OG as far as edits go.

totally otm

perhaps you can explain it, gr8080

deej i was just clowning cause you used the "maybe i dont get it" qualifier twice in your post ;]

sounds like someone's fucking with the mixer & playing another track on top of it at the wrong speed.

imo it abandons the bombastic soundtracky shift from the first part to the 2nd part of the original and in turn recreates a slow, building thing thats more ~atmosphere~ than energy. blank's totally otm on how when the strings drop in, they're dramatic, but imo not in a build-and-release way: more sunrise than atom bomb.

plus the greatest part of the original is the crazy tom pattern in the drums.

agreed, but i love how he kills them and instead replicates that rhythm with that really tight kick drum sound that repeats over and over.

best kind of re-edit imo

ill relisten

when im done playing kelly rowland 'motivation' over and over

"Sunrise" is pretty much the perfect way to describe the Revenge's edits.

For whatever reason, I've been ambivalent about Eddie C (it probably has to do with some sort of narcissism of small differences that comes with being an Eddie B and also being Canadian), but to hell with that, this is incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQRi-recvx4&feature=player_embedded#at=154

love the opening cut from the LP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-TKM7NEEM

i know its a month old but im not sure i get the appeal of that 'brothers gonna work it out edit'

it's four years old iirc

i meant his post was a month old

having now clicked on every single flash embed in the thread labelled "1 month ago," I see

I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but this mix DC1 - San Fran Disco Mix I came across is seriously very fucking good: http://www.mixcloud.com/fluidtimbre/san-fran-disco/?c=234825

[or download: http://clouddownload.co.uk/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mixcloud.com%2Ffluidtimbre%2Fsan-fran-disco%2F%3Fc%3D234825&x=12&y=16 ]

1. Cos-Mes - Naruto
2. Hess Is More - Yes Boss (Balearic Bongo Dub)
3. Diana Ross & The Supremes - My World Is Empty Without You (Drop Out Orchestra Remix)
4. Amplified Orchestra - I Want You
5. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On (Cole Medina Edit)
6. Soul II Soul - Back To Life (The Rules Remix)
7. Nick Turner - Love Is Reel
8. Stevie Wonder - Do I Do (U-Tern Disco Edit)
9. Janet Jackson - R&B Drunkie (Mark E Remix)
10. Flight Facilities Ft. Giselle - Crave You (C90s Remix)
11. Robyn - Dancing On My Own (Fred Falke Remix)
12. Black Science Orchestra - Save Us (Ashley Beedle’S Disco Throwback Remix)
13. Kool & The Gang - Be My Lady (Discorockets Remix)
14. Citylife - San Francisco Feat. Dd (Feenixpawl Remix

xpost: although from track 10 on its decidedly not slo-mo but was brilliant while it lasted.

This is 110-ish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UWa6gsGZT4

Love it, I did a full on two hour 110 too 130 bpm set on the radio last month it was good fun and that track pretty much set me on the path to explore it more on the decks. Not really into the disco side of things, but love the vibe the slow tempo can bring to other sounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6SINypjmQ

New mix from The Revenge to download:

Chapter Three - Smurf Trek (The Revenge Reekin'struction) - Z Records
Tomas Mola - We're Gonna Make It - Unknown
Sargeant & Malone - Love Message (The Revenge Reekin'struction) - Z Records
Clive Griffin - I'll Be Waiting (Redzone Mix) - Mercury
Newcleus - Jam On It (A Chicken Lips Instrumental Malfunction) - MB Disco
Electric Smoke - Freak It Out (The Revenge Reekin'struction) - Z Records
OOFT! - Make U Mine - Unreleased
André Lodemann - Your Choice (Iron Curtis Perspective) - Room With A View
Mark E - Oranges - Spectral
6th Borough Project - B.U.R.T. (The Journey) - Delusions Of Grandeur
Matt Flores - Water On The Moon (Session Victim Remix) - Farside
Move D - Aspiration 2010 - Soul People Music
The Revenge - Elements Of Fife (Tones Mix) - Poker Flat
Murphy Jax feat. Mike Dunn - It's The Music - Clone
Todd Terje - Bonysh - Running Back

nice mix.

need more of this stuff in the 110-116 range

I'm enjoying the 6th borough project full-length.

new tracks on the tiger & woods lp (at least the ones that are new to me) are pretty phenomenal, anyone who liked the other stuff should obv check it out

need to check out that 6th borough project lp. there have been so manyy album releases in this genre lately, it's hard to keep up

Otm

loving the new tiger & woods stuff

anyone know what edit is used in this clip? http://vimeo.com/25053445

says at the end of the clip! it's this http://www.mediafire.com/?31g7f186a12d72x

thanks! i got bored looking at German shoppers and switched tabs :)

Bromanced a stranger last night. Brought together by a mutual love of Mark E. Truly music that that bridges divides.

Mark E b-side to "The Day" (which was on Stone Breaker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRcF03cgbRw

12" also has a Prins Thomas remix (11:31!!!)
http://soundcloud.com/ghostly/03-the-day-prins-thomas-remix

Prins Thomas remix (11:31!!!)

((( d-_-b )))

Belvide Beat could do with a 12"

I am absolutely obsessed with Matthew Kyle at the moment. Really captures that awesome throbbing intensity vibe that I love about the best of this stuff but with this really voluptuous deployment of soul as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUE2rH14uX0

He's got some awesome DJ mixes available on his soundcloud also. Some of the most consistently beautiful mixes I've heard:

http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/live-rhythm-brunch-july-31st

http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/disconnected-021

I'd like to stick my hand up high for the new Massimiliano Pagliara LP, Focus for Infinity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkpxuMfiNak&feature=BFa&list=AV4oVf-d_DwKDFcDgtZia1jg7aKp6wdgsl&index=2

Got this off the amazing Matthew Kyle live at Rhythm & Brunch set I told you bitches to download. Astounding:

http://soundcloud.com/cisco_cisco/cisco-cisco-higher-original

Cisco Cisco - Higher.

"Brothers In Arms" by these dudes is also amazing:

http://soundcloud.com/cisco_cisco/cisco-cisco-higher-original

Spent the weekend listening to Matthew Kyle. Top notch, esp the disconnected mix.

"Honey Sugar" is his most played track on soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/honey-sugar . Here's the Tyrone Davis song it edits, new to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcXINw4MAY

feeling the new toomy disco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHHJHysXhrs

this remix isnt slo-mo but i like it too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PHZ7sI9eOA

So fucking beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntVd3YpRtiQ

seems both mark-e and the revenge have abandoned this sound now, ive done gigs with both recently and wasnt really feeling what theyre plying, slightly harder and faster with none vocals or cheeky samples that made their names. Perhaps a reaction to getting bigger gigs?

i think it probably is a reaction to those bigger gigs, and it's weird that all the interesting aspects of their earlier sounds keep getting washed out over time as they play at bigger and bigger clubs. it's not like it's impossible to draw out a faster song and treat it in a similar way to all the slomo stuff, so abandoning that sound really doesn't make much sense to me.

idk if lovebirds fit this category but this one is a nice example of how to ramp up those bpms and keep things idiosyncratic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzU42usvGKo

what did these old revenge records sound like?

looks kind of like house-influenced big beat or vice versa. maybe they are just moving back to that sound now that edits are kind of passe.

i think one of things abt a lot of these tracks is that while they seem DJ-oriented i dont get the impression that being a good DJ is necessarily reflective of being a good producer of songs like this. that at some level, they are sort of at odds

i mean thats at some level a 'well duh' kind of thing but i think its partic true with the slow motion stuff

what do you mean? i have some questions about what you're getting at.

what seems dj-oriented about these tracks? what makes tracks dj oriented (as opposed to merely seeming like it). what makes a good dj? a good producer of songs like this? how are they at odds?

i guess what i mean is, there are producers, and there are DJs, and producers who make songs people like end up becoming DJs, and that while they may have DJ'd before producing now they are suddenly booking more & more (and bigger) gigs, and suddenly they find that certain kinds of songs work better at certain times in sets, and that all-slow-motion-all-the-time can actually be pretty monotonous, so they start 'finding themselves' as DJs and subsequently lose the particular magic/distinctiveness of their producer-ly days as they start diversifying. Something is gained, something lost

this is a generalization

i havent seen any new Revenge sets or anything

oh i see this is not specific to "slow motion house"

well doesnt have to be but seems like it could be applicable in this case?

was just spitballin

yeah i think it is sort of a "condition" afflicting all of dance music ... the DJ / producer divide. although often that leads down a boring trail (functionalism vs auterism, etc).

i was more wondering if you thought there was a specific reason that line of thought was particularly applicable to this style, except for the fact that it seems like these guys are sorta flailing at the moment.

remember reading an early interview with Mark E as he was first (and fast) becoming a name, and he hit on at least one angle of what you're saying, D-40, and spoke about tempo. He was like yeah, I make this slow stuff because it's funky and fun but when I DJ it's a lot of uptempo house that I love with this slower stuff dappled here and there at the right moments.

It reminded me of Michael Mayer in '04 saying schaffel was never meant to be The Sound of a whole night or mix or whatever, but rather dropped in to enhance the atmosphere. 'Course looking back Kompakt didn't really practice what he preached, what with whole mixes of the stuff and whatnot

moonship- do you actually want to know what those tracks sound like? or were you positing that the revenge were uptempo to begin with?

i think linkwood has fared the best with more uptempo sounds, eg "electricity" and ESPECIALLY "one" (or dirty love or w/e was the first track on that 'from the vaults' release)

"get up on it" is pretty rad, very in line with the first releases on instruments of rapture. the vocal sample is relatively cheeky too i suppose, has nothing to do with big beat to my knowledge

no, i actually want to know what that stuff sounds like ... when i first got into slo mo house i scoured the net for those five20east singles but it seems like they never really made it to mp3

they look like big beat albums to my eyes, but as i said, i've never heard them.

yeah i think it is sort of a "condition" afflicting all of dance music ... the DJ / producer divide. although often that leads down a boring trail (functionalism vs auterism, etc).

i was more wondering if you thought there was a specific reason that line of thought was particularly applicable to this style, except for the fact that it seems like these guys are sorta flailing at the moment.

― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh well i would theorize that, in particular, slow mo disco doesnt seem particularly fun back to back to back in a dj set ... lots of dance movements come out of ~dance scenes~ as opposed to this which feels more producer-led

part of this is that i dont think ive ever been to a party or club where more than 1-2 tracks 'like this' were played where ppl were actually dancing

but maybe im outside the loop on that one

typically shift into idk whatever hercules & love azari & Cut Copy track is hot at the moment

anyway time for the ILX premier (i think?) of my fav slow dance jam '11!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8opdoJcppk

part of this is that i dont think ive ever been to a party or club where more than 1-2 tracks 'like this' were played where ppl were actually dancing

― D-40, Thursday, September 8, 2011 2:52 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but maybe im outside the loop on that one

― D-40, Thursday, September 8, 2011 2:52 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

for some reason i always picture the 'heart' of this scene being some musty northern uk pub with lots of pasty looking dudes in track jackets

oh, and for vah1d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5LcvEvWwiY

i think 2011 has especially been a bummer year for this stuff because all these guys are now releasing full length albums, and this is a sound (as deej noted) that really gets stale when played back to back for considerable amounts of time. at least we got a few good cuts on the mark e and 6th borough lps, and everything tiger & woods has put out this year just keeps sounding better the more times i hear it

yes! especially

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKK21bHJ_4

i'd like a whole album by these guys atually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T5icZQgpT8

no ones gonna step into a club they got booked to play and drop a whole set of this stuff, especially past midnight, and especially if they're the out-of-town headliner.

no dj is an island, etc.

i cant remember what track it was, but i was playing something straight off of this thread at this lounge bar i had a regular gig at. i'd always stay in this style from about 9:00 or 10:00 PM until about 11:30, slowly working my way from below 100 bpm up to around 116 over the course of an hour or two. about a half hour in to my set, (and a good 6 minutes in to the track i was playing), the bar was just starting to fill up, and this past-middle-aged sex-in-the-city looking lady got up from her s eataround the corner, walked up to my booth, gave me an exasperated look and just exclaimed "switch it up please!! its getting monotonous!!!"

i can't remember but i think i might have been playing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdjqnB9Ns6c

and then she was all "If this is house..."

ha otm.

that is 6th borough's best song imo

"just a memory", surely.

no ones gonna step into a club they got booked to play and drop a whole set of this stuff, especially past midnight, and especially if they're the out-of-town headliner.

I've seen the Revenge play post-midnight sets of all his own stuff when he's the out-of-hemisphere headiner

once he did a front-room and a back-room set, and all but about five people ditched the main room for the slower-mo Revenge second set

(first set might not have been his own shit, I don't remember)

I could still dance to "Rnb Drunkie" for hours if I had the chance to.

would totally dance post midnight to this stuff. For hours. If the 'chill' thing managed to find a club audience then I don't really see why this can't. I guess we're living in a post Ibiza morning after continue clubbing world though. Wonder how this stuff is going down in Europe actually.

goddamn this suzanne kraft ep on running back nails this slo mo disco thing, such a grower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRVOTr1zbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNkxpvI0Gzw

This Matthew Kyle mix of tunes from his new label is great, love this dude's aesthetic so much:

http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/not-knowing-your-wildest

Washed Out - You and I (Dave Wrangler Dub)
Heion - Not Knowing (In The Woods - Coming Soon)
Heion - Get On (In The Woods - Coming Soon
Tina Turner - Never In Your Wildest Dreams (Magellanic Cloud Edit)
Heion - Off (In The Woods - Coming Soon)
Kartell - Love Strike
Joseph Terruel - Thinkin' About You (In The Woods - Coming Soon)
Matthew Kyle & Cuetec - Momentum (Audio Parallax - Coming Soon)
Cuetec - Early Sun
Joseph Terruel - A Dark Day Like Today
Al Usher - Lullaby For Robert (Bogdan Irkak Remix)
Ecxellior - Danse La France (She Said Disco Remix)
Joseph Terruel - La Bella Durmiente (In The Woods - Coming Soon)

Would Erdbeerschnitzel count ITT? What I've heard of his stuff is :-D :-D

yea i think he counts, and yes his stuff is amazing. just picked up the always remain ep, looking forward to giving it a listen

Does this count? This is something I love (Newworldaquarium: "Star Power", 2007):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfahxUkPmLA

And what about this? (Kassem Mosse: "Demo Drums")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBQgDwmBIk&feature=related

this isnt very slow but strikes me as more this stuff than dance partisans? idk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxF1Y9ozSSs

anyway love this

^ i like that one

this is definitely a slo mo jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsAkRfPIxFE

it was released on a comp this year but i guess it's actually 2 years old? woops

Really into that Eddie C album. Space Shuttle is incredible. It sounds really familiar too, is it a sample of Ash Ra or Gottsching?

love the lush-sounding samples from this disc.

Just got the Eddie C album too. 9 (of 12) tracks in and already hands-down solid! I'd been playing the hell out of certain individual tracks (do it yourself!!!!!!), but I'm really very please so far at how this works as an album. Tip!

http://soundcloud.com/osmose/smokecloud-promo-mix-for-scr

Fantastic new slo-mo funk/disco mix from Atlanta's DJ Osmose...

You can grab what's effectively a new, free Tiger & Woods album at http://running-back-records.tumblr.com/

wiki & leaks lol

thanks for the heads up btw!

they sure are married to the ____ & ____ thing huh

loving both the DJ Osmose mix and Tiger + Woods thing

Heard this out last night. Very Nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRHrHJiXgr4

does anyone have any cole medina mixes? i have disk union #1 and am pretty heartbroken that 2 and 3 aren't available anymore. or this 'Homesick, L.A. Vibe Radio' mix mayhaps?

would also kill for his unreleased ep vol 3, just fwiw yall

really don't know where to put this but it's good.

http://soundcloud.com/craig-bratley/wanna_be_with_you

Is it just me or does Track #5 end prematurely on Vicki & Leekx? Shame because it's prob my fav track. Oh well, I still have my RA version of it.
And reppin Eddie C as a fantastic live DJ. Tiger & Woods had visa problems or something and he stepped in, fantastic night. His album still has to grow on me.

yeah, that track ends abruptly. my fav track along with #11. anyone knows the original song of each edit?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AT7ebvPs14&feature=channel_video_title

this is probably the thread I missed most during the Sandbox period