fire, water, air and dirt / fukkin magnets / how do they work?

'hat tip' to gr8080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=player_embedded

discussed on this thread but video/lyrics truly deserve more attention

DOES ANYONE IN THIS BITCH LIKE ICP

the pelican/cellphone couplet is the culmination of all poetic efforts since the saemundar edda imo

STRANGE fits of passion have I known:
And I will dare to tell,
But in the Lover's ear alone,
What once to me befell.

I fed a fish to a pelican at Frisco bay,
Fresh as a rose in June,
It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran away
Beneath an evening-moon.

For once, when at the Frisco bay,
with Faygo and in pensive mood,
a pelican my cellphone ate
or tried to, which I thought was rude;
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
to recognize these mirakills.

my god; must leave office before others start to look at me

MAGIC EVERYWHERE IN THIS BITCH

lollin so hard @ head nod 1:28-1:32

crows, ghosts, the midnight coast

is that guy fieri?

For once, when at the Frisco bay,
with Faygo and in pensive mood,
a pelican my cellphone ate
or tried to, which I thought was rude;
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
to recognize these mirakills.

― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, April 8, 2010 1:55 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

damn son

:D

you guys laugh, but i'm pretty sure 98% of the people on this board can't explain how a magnet works

lol whiney more than 2% of the posters here play nerdy video games

there's a videogame that explains why magnets work?

we learned about fuckin magnets in like 4th grade but i do not remember how they work

miracles afaic

you might've missed mr icp being lauched out of a woman's crotch at 0:46, "the birth of my kids"

more drifted than launched tbh

dying @ this

deej otm abt the headnod

that video is irrefutable proof that this is indeed the best of all possible worlds

whiney i think you're missing the point, the line immediately after the one quoted in the thread title is

and i don't wanna talk to a scientist/ya'll mothafuckas lying, and getting me pissed

http://i40.tinypic.com/2i8bvxw.png

A walleye to a pelican
In Frisco once I fed:
It was a fuckin bitchass bird,
And 'mid my fanny pack it stirred,
Trying to eat my cell phone.

A wonderful bird is the pelican,
His mouth can hold more than his belly can,
He can hold in his beak,
Enough food for a week.
And fuck you bitch-ass faggots, juggalo for life

ha

I know how magnets work

plant a little seed, and nature grows

I fed a pelican in Reno just to watch him die.

I shot a fish in Frisco as he stole my phone.

A wonderful bird is the pelican,
His mouth can hold more than his belly can,
He can hold in his beak,
Enough food for a week.
And fuck you bitch-ass faggots, juggalo for life

lol'd my ass off at this

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the best ever psychopathic records band out of denton
were a couple of juggalos
who'd been friends since elementary school

if we have to go there let's at least respect the meter

the best ever clown makeup band outta Houston
had been down with the clown
since their grade school'd expelled them

For once, when at the Frisco bay,
with Faygo and in pensive mood,
a pelican my cellphone ate
or tried to, which I thought was rude;
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
to recognize these mirakills.

dying

fuckin rainbows.

Yo Shaggy: sho nuff is a fuckin miracle your boys look just like you, 'cause I nailed yo' bitch.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/miracle-of-birth-occurs-for-83-billionth-time,775/

There was a time when rainbow, crowd, and stream,
The dirt, and every common sight,
To me did seem
A goddamn unbelievable fucking miracle.

LET us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherised upon a table;
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells:
Streets that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question …
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

YES

curious to know how troo kult juggalos responded to this (it's been out for a while now, yeah?)

The apparition of these rainbows in the sky;
Cellphones in a wet bird's mouth.

Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Juggalo

I
Among twenty snowy mountains,
The only moving thing
Was the eye of the juggalo.

II
I was of three minds,
Like a tree
In which there are three fuckin juggalos, bitch.

III
The juggalo whirled in the Faygo fountain.
It was a small part of the pantomime.

IV
A man and a woman
Are one.
A man and a woman and a juggalo
Are one.

How the fuck does that work?

V
I do not know which to prefer,
The beauty of inflections
Or the beauty of innuendoes,
The juggalo rapping
Or just after.

VI

Icicles filled the long window
With barbaric glass.
The shadow of the juggalo
Crossed it, to and fro.
The mood
Traced in the shadow
An indecipherable cause.

VII
O thin men of Haddam,
Why do you imagine golden birds?
Do you not see how the juggalo
Walks around the feet
Of the women about you?

VIII
I know noble accents
And lucid, inescapable rhythms;
But I know, too,
That the juggalo is involved
In what I know.

IX
When the pelican flew out of sight,
It marked the edge
Of one of many circles
That son-of-a-bitch stole my cell phone

X
At the sight of Faygo
Flying in a green light,
Even the bawds of euphony
Would cry out sharply.

XI
He rode over Connecticut
In a glass coach.
Once, a fear pierced him,
In that he mistook
The shadow of his equipage
For juggalos.

XII
The river is moving.
The juggalo must be high.

XIII
It was evening all afternoon.
It was snowing
And it was going to snow.
The juggalo sat
In the cedar-limbs
Smoking the fattest blunt you've ever seen.

wild pelican and
the golden gate o'er water
a lost ringtone chimes

Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And tries to eat my cell phone,
And never stops at all,

so much depends
upon

a fat
juggalo

glazed with fresh
faygo

beside the white
bitches.

XDDDDDDDDDDD

This is just to say
I have eaten the cellphone
that was
in your hand

and which
you were probably
saving
for a phone call

Forgive me
it was delicious
maybe you could get it out
using some sort of magnet?

there once was a clown named 2 dope
who stood on a bridge held by rope
feeding fish to a bird
he adored the absurd
but when it went for his cell...haha, NOPE!

DJ Mencap, I am applauding

this thread, u guys :D

Jesus Christ Mr. Que this is too funny

http://www.hulu.com/watch/113213/saturday-night-live-underground-festival

^ (funny Gathering of the Jaggalos parody)

^ this thread is funnier

Open here I flung the shitter, when, with many a fart and titter,
In there stepped an ugly pelican of the fugly days of yore.
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of Juggalo or lass, ate my cellphone, I got sore -
Perched upon the Great Milenko just above my outhouse door -
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.

Then this lame-ass bird beguiling my sad clownface into smiling,
By the grave and stern decorum of the countenance it wore,
`Though in your beak my phone has haven, thou,' I said, `art sure no craven.
Ghastly annoying dumb pelican wandering from the Bayside shore -
Tell me what thy lordly name is on SF's Plutonian shore!'
Quoth the pelican, `Fuck you dude.'

fukkin Raggetts, how do they work?

LOL

`Twas brillig, and the fuckin' toves
Did gyre and gimble in this bitch.

okay I was off the ICP train long before this song came out so I had no idea how hilarious it was

also why has no one called out the "beatboxing" in the coda, which sounds suspiciously like "bored sound engineer making fart noises"

seeing it the first time immediately reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

fukkin Raggetts, how do they work?

Best thread ever!

― fuckin' raggett... how does that work? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, April 9, 2010 9:08 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

damn late pass

It's all good.

point of diminishing returns has probably been reached; nonetheless:

As I came down the impassible Rivers,
I heard no more the scientists' lies,
Targets for screaming juggalos they were nailed
Naked to painted poles.

What did I care for any crews,
Carriers of long-neck giraffes or of fuckin' rainbows!
The midnight coast and all that hubbub left behind,
The miracles let me go my own free way.

In the furious lashings of the Dark Carnival,
Emptier than pelicans' mouths, I through that vicious weather
Ran! And great peninsulas unmoored
Never knew how the fuck magnets work.

We stopped at miraculous days
and got out of the car.
I fed a fish to a pelican.
It was as simple as that.
I turned to say something--
and it tried to eat my cellphone.

not being a big classics person, I only immediately recognized DJ Mencap's source poem, which made me crack the fuck up

This thread is like some kinda road to damascus moment for me

HI DERE, there is quite a lot of William Clown Williams itt

still firmly believe that ICP were solidly entertaining, if not exceedingly gifted emcees, from Ringmaster through about half of The Great Milenko, largely for the reasons everyone is bugging out over "Miracles" itt

Somebody please do emperor of ice cream

"85 bucks an hour" still makes me laugh xp

They used to be exceedingly good at swinging between ridiculously goofy and hilarious, and kind of creepy and unsettling but still hilarious, then their decent producer left and they ran out of ideas for a while. It makes sense that when Mike E. Clark came back, they'd get some decent beats back again and come up with more entertaining goofy shit like this.

What he has now to say is a long
wonder the world can bear & be.
Once in a sycamore I was glad
all at the top, and I sang.
Hard on the land wears the strong sea
and fuckin' magnets, how do they work?

great milenko only entertained me for the first fifteen minutes of the first listen, but it's possible i'm more peurile than i was in high school (i had to write a preview of their upcoming show for the weekender section of the local paper, only the band backed out of the gig the day of because the stage was too small for their many faygo bottles or something. thankfully it was relatively early in the juggalo era and there wasn't a full-blown riot).

Yeah well the problem is that you hit "Piggy Pie" and it's like "holy shit this is fucking awful, fuck you ICP" and that might mean you never make it to "The Neden Game" (which IIRC wasn't on the original Disney-approved album anyway but is like miles ahead of everything else on the album).

haha since i haven't heard it since high school i don't remember any specifics other than that i was amused for fifteen minutes, bored for rest of album and repeated listens and all other ICP interactions until you posted some mp3s of them a while back, like the one about their ghosts killing a jury, and i realized some of that shit had been squeezed into diamonds.

haha the neden game is the one track I remember as being good xp

thread needs less ICP praise, more juggalo poetry

juggaloetry, you mean

insane clown poesy

TS: Juggaloetry vs Floetry

edgar allen juggapoe

oh yeah I recognized "The Raven" too

Violent J has run away!
I was fuckin trotting along and suddenly
it started raining faygo in this bitch
and you said it was just a pelican
but pelicans try to eat your cell
phone so it was really raining
faygo in this bitch and I was in such a hurry
to meet you but the fuckin' traffic
was acting exactly like a fuckin' magnet
and suddenly I see a headline
VIOLENT J HAS RUN AWAY!
there is no rain in Hollywood
there is no faygo in California
I have been to lots of bays
and waved a lot of fish
but I never actually run away
oh Violent J we love you come back

I placed a phone in Frisco Bay,
And there it was, upon the bay.
It made the slovenly wackassness
Surround that bay.

The wackassness rose up to it,
And sprawled around, no longer wild.
The phone was there upon the ground
And tall and of a port in air.

It took dominion every where.
The phone was gray and bare.
It did not give of bird or bush,
Like nothing else in Frisco Bay.

mad props for doing o'hara

xp

The rain set early in to-night,
The sullen wind was soon awake,
It tore the elm-tops down for spite,
And did its worst to vex the lake:
I listened with heart fit to break.
When glided in a butterfly; straight
She shut the cold out and the storm,
And kneeled and made the cheerless grate
Blaze up, and all the cottage warm;

Which done, she rose, and from her form
Withdrew the dripping cloak and shawl,
And laid her soiled gloves by, untied
Her hat and let the damp hair fall,
And, last, she sat down by my side
And called me. When no voice replied,
She put my arm about her waist,
And made her smooth white shoulder bare,
And all her yellow hair displaced,
And, stooping, made my cheek lie there,

And spread, o'er all, her yellow hair,
Murmuring how she loved me--she
Too weak, for all her heart's endeavour,
To set its struggling passion free
From pride, and vainer ties dissever,
And give herself to me for ever.
But passion sometimes would prevail,
Nor could to-night's gay feast restrain
A sudden thought of one so pale
For love of her, and all in vain:
So, she was come through wind and rain.

Be sure I looked up at her eyes
Happy and proud; at last I knew
Porphyria worshipped me; surprise
Made my heart swell, and still it grew
While I debated what to do.
That moment she was mine, mine, fair,
Perfectly pure and good: I found
A thing to do, and all her hair
In one long yellow string I wound
Three times her little throat around,

And strangled her. No pain felt she;
I am quite sure she felt no pain.
As a shut bud that holds a bee,
I warily oped her lids: again
Laughed the blue eyes without a stain.
And I untightened next the tress
About her neck; her cheek once more
Blushed bright beneath my burning kiss:
I propped her head up as before,

Only, this time my shoulder bore 50
Her head, which droops upon it still:
The smiling rosy little head,
So glad it has its utmost will,
That all it scorned at once is fled,
And I, its love, am gained instead!
Porphyria's love: she guessed not how
Her darling one wish would be heard.
And thus we sit together now,
And all night long we have not stirred,
And yet God has not said a word!

faygoetry

Looking for the LOLs in the Browning, but mostly just getting not-LOLs.

it's subtle

To Christ our Bitch


I CAUGHT this morning morning’s miracle, king-
dom of fucken' rainbows, dapper-phone-drawn Pelican, in his ridin'
Of the rollin' Frisco underneath him steady sea, and I'm gettin'
High there, how he rung upon the ringtone of a cellphone's ring
In his gizzard! then off, when phone stops callin',
As a skater’s heel sweeps smooth on a half-pipe: with puke and cryin'
I guffed a big wind. My heart in hidin'
Stirred for a bird,—the trapeze of; the ringmastery of the thing!

Bitch beauty and Faygo and wack, oh, fuck this pelican here,
Fuck y'all! AND the breaks that fire from the DJ, a billion
Times told lovelier, more dangerous, O my Clown Posse!

The wonder of it: fuckén' magnéts work fucken' silly and
Shit, and big-beak remembrance, ah my dear,
Phone, call thyself. I cash gold millions,
Bitch

to write a poem after magnets is barbaric, and that corrodes also the knowledge which expresses why it has become impossible to write poetry today

Two Faygos procured in Harper Woods
And sorry I could not spray you with both
And be one Juggalo, long I stood
And shook up one as much as I could
To better soak with Red Pop your clothes

Then shook the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim
Then a pelican took to the air
His fucking pouch, my cell phone's in there
Last time I'll toss fish in Frisco Bay

And two bitches that morning I furiously laid
With faces painted white upon black
Oh, I sprayed Faygo on the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way
I doubted if she should ever come back

Fucking magnets, I say with a sigh
I don't want to talk to no scientist
Two Faygos procured in Harper Woods
I shook the one labeled Rock & Rye
And that has made all the difference.

god damn

good work all around. these should be published imo.

outstanding

nobody heard him, the pelican
but still he lay moaning
i ate from a juggalo in frisco bay
and not a fish but a cellphone

poor bird, he always loved fukkin magnets
and now he's dead
it must have been the faygo his heart gave way
they said.

oh no no no, it was faygo always
(still the pelican lay moaning)
i ate from juggaloes all my life
and not a fish but a cellphone

guitar solo almost as good as final placement

Philip Larkinsane Clown Posse

I saw the best minds of my juggalo nation blown by magnets, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the faygo cans at dawn looking for an angry fix,
jester-painted hipsters toking for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of their parents' basements festering 'neath suburbs of Detroit contemplating Mushroomhead

guitar solo almost as good as final placement

― phat vintage shit (r1o natsume), Friday, April 9, 2010 12:14 PM (7 hours ago)

lol, i thought the same thing!

Will there be a line-by-line poll for this song? I think it deserves one. I'd vote for the thing about the bird eating his cell phone.

Doctor Casino just dropped a truth bomb -- this needs to happen

I was going to but this song is too lyrically dense to organize into a poll

hang on

Are you a believer in mira-POLLs? Do you notice and recognize mira-POLLs?

In Frisco Bay did Violent J
A pelican attempt to feed
Where Alph, the Faygo river ran
through shit that shocked the eyelids of man
Down to a clownless sea

lj I commend you for that windhover version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhFFyLl_s64

Pelican wants cellphone!

hey forks, watch this whole thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfisddCgtsg

and give us the highlight reel

Things that need to be mentioned on this thread:

--The recent Juggalo episode of Law and Order
--The Juggalo episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force

wkiw icp in that interview, shame they are actually icp.

Come away, o Jugglo, to the water,
With the pelican hand in hand,
For the world's more full of Faygo, bitch,
Than you can understand.

insane clown poesy

― forgive me fada (acoleuthic), Friday, April 9, 2010 5:11 PM (Yesterday)

I saw the best minds of my juggalo nation blown by magnets, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the faygo cans at dawn looking for an angry fix,
jester-painted hipsters toking for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of their parents' basements festering 'neath suburbs of Detroit contemplating Mushroomhead

― steev reich (Curt1s Stephens), Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:34 AM (20 hours ago)

HEROES

real q is which producer is going to step up and do a decent balearic edit of the instrumental outro to this song? could see prins thomas playing it out maybe.

man that interview is actually really solid & appears to be somebody in icp's crew surreptitiously taping bashir interviewing them - they're really awesomely forthright - pretty inspiring tbh

^i've always said this. they are smart, down-to-earth guys who totally understand their place in the world.

i kind of want to interview them myself, but i don't know how the pitch would go. Like call psychopathic and be like "do you want to talk about the fact that hipsters are deconstructing you all day?"

as usual you're shoehorning the word "hipster" in where it's kind of unnecessary, but i don't think it'd be that hard a sell, to want to talk to them about how the outside world views them. plus, i mean, you don't put on clown makeup and then get mad when people laugh at you.

as usual you're confusing "fun" with "requires an actual news peg"

the line about what you'd say when calling their label made it seem like you were talking about how to justify the interview to the interviewees, not to an editor.

i would love to see other examples of me making that same mistake regarding fun and news pegs though.

ie, the outside world has been kind of joking about ICP so years, but now theres a ILX/BC0/hip1noin/VLV/Williamsb0ard-etc. (ie, the Das Racist audience) deconstructing their every move and occasionally showing up that the Gathering to take pictures

omfg this thread

And then my heart with pleasure fills,
to recognize these mirakills.

poor bird, he always loved fukkin magnets

oh Violent J we love you come back

the fuckin' toves
Did gyre and gimble in this bitch.

XI
He rode over Connecticut
In a glass coach.
Once, a fear pierced him,
In that he mistook
The shadow of his equipage
For juggalos.

Forgive me
it was delicious
maybe you could get it out
using some sort of magnet?

To lead you to an overwhelming question …
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

And fuck you bitch-ass faggots, juggalo for life

I saw the best minds of my juggalo nation blown by magnets

just in tears...

noz has had some good defenses of the juggalo phenom

that's kind of like saying "hipsters go to Will Ferrell movies, therefore Will Ferrell is a hipster phenomenon"

having read through several of the long icp/juggalo related threads i'm still rly unsure what to make of them

beyond 'the fact' of their transitory meme life there's obviously something there, but it seems like they've bequeathed a culture that thrives without them? like if icp vanished the thing would go on somehow, and some other business would organize, or the juggalos wd self organize rhizomatically

on the contrary, i think they're a cottage industry unto themselves in part BECAUSE they're smart businessmen and know how to merchandise and service their fans. they're like the new Kiss, makeup and all.

and btw i don't really think what they do is that remarkable or unusual, once you look past how crazy the whole ICP thing is. i mean, 311 have a similarly enduring cult and huge annual events, etc., the refugees of the '90s that have survived in this way are always kind of surprising and often horribly uncool.

http://www.campbisco.net/

sure xp, and one of the rationalizations the icp could use is that if they didn't run the show someone else would

in this sense icp could be avatars of ameriolative capitalism, like anthony giddens or something

it wouldn't just disappear without icp, they're probably getting terrible abuse on juggalo boards right now for the miracles vid/song anyway

ameliorative (lol

this doesn't seem to be just a 90s nostalgia thing, the 2009 'gathering' apparently had more people than ever before

and give us the highlight reel

"That's hardcore wrestling."
"That derives from Japan, that's been around forever, we didn't make that up."
"You can take a baseball bat, wrapped in duct tape, rolled in thumbtacks, and spanked across somebody's naked scrotum, know what I'm sayin'? We could go on and on."

LOL 5 minutes in it becomes clear the next room is blasting Beyonce

So awesome. At 9 minutes in Bashir reads an example of one of their 'romance' lyrics and starts laughing, and then everyone starts laughing, and he is told by a man wearing clown make up "See, you're laughing, how can you take this shit seriously?"

by mentioning that someone whose mainstream profile peaked in the 90s has enjoyed a devoted following since then i was in no way attributing that to "90s nostalgia" fwiw

They are really pretty down to earth guys who just see their art in the same vein as the lowest-common-denominator entertainment they love (wrestling, horror movies, etc.).

"There are plenty of great, hidden, underlying messages that take years to decipher."

no that's right xp, and of course the nostalgia audience will often increase with time in any case, but the juggalo thing evidently both endures with older gens and speaks to kids with no cultural memory/assocations with that time

not sure i'd liken it to people following 311 or whatever, they may be as numerous but not as committed in most instances, and 311 is more anachronistically nineties whereas the juggalo thing sort of seems to exist outside of normal pop cultural time now?

oh god bashir is such a tool in this interview

I see hatchetman stickers and ICP shirts on enough cars and people that I never really bat an eyelash, but the other day I saw a huge 311 sticker in the back window of a car and did a huge double take, like the fact that someone was still manufacturing giant window-size 311 stickers is just crazy. I didn't know they were still around.

is that guy fieri?

― ✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Friday, April 9, 2010 2:09 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

http://content2.myyearbook.com/zenhex/images/quiz39/190983/190983_res1_ViolentJ.jpg
http://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/guy_fieri_roadshow.jpg

311 have a similarly enduring cult and huge annual events, etc.,

― fucka washa hat (some dude), Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

whaaa rly

btw totally disgusted w/yr alls attempted rehab of icps image here, cant trick me

it's true, 311 is bigger than ever. this is coming to my area soon:
Unity Tour 2010 / 311 & The Offspring with special guests Pepper
(excerpt from gig description: 311 are touring behind their 2009 studio release, Uplifter - the highest charting 311 album ever, debuting at #3. 311’s reputation as a renowned live band has grown steadily along with their catalog of modern rock hits – including ”Down,” “All Mixed Up,” “Amber,” “Come Original,” “Beautiful Disaster” and “Love Song.”)
also coming to my area:
Insane Clown Posse with Kottonmouth Kings, Coolio, Kittie, Necro plus Juggalo Clown Wrestling

amber is the color of your energy, woah oh

this is fucked up news abt 311

hate to be the bearer of fucked up news. the world is a crazy place.

hahah tell me the offspring have a similar cult around them

magic all up in this crazy bitch

The Offspring are currently in the studio working on the follow-up to their heralded Rise And Fall, Rage And Grace album, which featured the alternative and rock radio staples “Hammerhead” and “You¹re Gonna Go Far, Kid.” The band will take a break from the studio to hit the road and debut some new material along with their classic hits. The band are known best for their modern rock anthems including “Self Esteem,” “Come Out And Play (Keep ‘Em Separated)” and “The Kids Aren¹t Alright.”

writing pretty fly out of history

Musical Style

Various writers and critics define 311 by a number of genres. They are generally known as an alternative rock band, but they are also classified as rap rock, rap metal, funk rock, funk metal, ska punk, reggae and jazz fusion.

amber is more black metal imo

i don't really like to hate on bands, but 311's version of "Lovesong" killed a little part of me.

don't know if this has been noted but ;_;
"Over the past 30 years, ICP has released more than 23 albums, including more than 10 RIAA certifications and the Billboard Top 200’s longest running hip-hop record."

ICP > amber metal

campbisco OTM

that's kind of like saying "hipsters go to Will Ferrell movies, therefore Will Ferrell is a hipster phenomenon"

― fucka washa hat (some dude), Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

wasnt this the nature of many whiney arguments i.e. gucci mane, kevin smith, icp etc.

"i saw someone talking about it on ilx -- hipsters must be all over it"

In the last month I ran into someone from the band B00gie Boarder rocking a FREE GUCCI shirt, and saw a house party in Austin where BL1SSED 0UT ran a gucci song through a distortion pedal as partnof his set, so continue to STFU deej

can we just talk about how prophetic i was my making this display name a mere 4 hours ago

snap goin ham

ok admittedly I am running on low sleep so it's not really a major accomplishment to make me lol pretty hard but still "deejus, get off the whiney weingarten penis" is A+ lols imo

also, last time i checked, deej lived in a town where people still listen to post-rock, so dude prolly shouldn't step to me about hipsters

http://twitter.com/1000TimesYes/status/11952196866

Whiney WEEPING FOR THE UNDERDOG in this bitch

it was so, so hard not to post this response to the zing thread

http://twitter.com/ichlugebullets/status/11952796043

zings from beyond the grave

last time i checked, deej lived in a town called doo doo eater ville where only stupid people live, and they eat their doo doo, so dude prolly shouldn't step to me about hipsters

XD

ayo whiney do you really consider all the lols "bashing"? ICP 1) know they're funny 2) are being funny on purpose - it's possible to say "this shit is hilarious" and still not be laughing meanspiritedly imo

like that bashir interview afaic dudes come off like enviably together ppl w/their priorities straight, and that's been the word on them for years - at instore signings, they hang around until the last fan's gotten his hand shaken even if it takes 8 hours etc - 100% sincerely think these guys are awesome, also think it's fair to laugh at guys IN CLOWN MAKEUP.

guys who write songs like "I Stab People"

I could kind of understand Whiney getting his panties in a bunch about some of the other ICP threads that turned into LOLz @ fatjuggalo.jpg for large stretches, but this one is straight up homage.

i guess its not the bashing its just the overarching vibe that we're definitely "looking down" on a subculture vastly inferior to ours.

I mean can i just

"I spun her around and licked her face/She screamed, hit me with a can of mace"

vs.

"I fell in love with the first cute girl that I met who could appreciate Georges Bataille/Standing at Swedish festival discussing "Story of the Eye"

i'm not really trying to be capn save a clown and all, but i'm just kind of tired of hearing it from all angles. it's way bigger than just an ilx thread

violent j said something on stern like 10 years ago about why they couldn't understand why everyone hates them. they're not on the radio, they're not on MTV, they're not in your face like a backstreet boys or a britney or a beiber. they're a total underground thing that you can ignore like you would ignore a bright eyes album, and yet the internet is picking apart their every move like they're pearl jam.

i'm just pointing it out, i'm not gonna get all super-aggy about it

aggy everywhere in this bitch

anyway, what you say could apply to phish, and i think it's pretty reasonable to hate phish & it has nothing to do with classicism

or i guess, what violent j said

& people pick apart everything they do because they are transparently & inherently ridiculous

seriously ppl that whole bashir interview is genuinely inspiring to me. because it's the same situation as in dream deceivers, guys who make music for a niche audience and have a special bond w/that audience, being accused of wanting the hurt the people to whom they owe their careers, and getting a chance to say to clueless dudes "what we do is about love & family & if you can't understand that, that's on you"

not that i don't think there's some element to truth about what you're saying re: "hipsters" or w/e, but it's not like their art isn't asking to be picked apart by internet culture -- i.e. there was no classicism i think in the "picking apart" and rofling at die antwoord -- it's just lol ridiculous rap

whiney i dont care about how connected you are to what hipsters think, you just have an unbelievably distorted view of the real world, worse than any 'hipsters' i know

my fukkin dad would make fun of these dudes if he saw them on nightline -- must be a hipster!!

i think you a have a distorted idea of the argument i'm trying to make

ill get off whiney's dick when he stops annoying world-weary posts abt hipster anthropology -- who the fukk even seriously talks bout 'hipsters' any more like its some easily identifiable group of ppl -- all this shit is covered on npr, my mom probably heard titus androdicosdjsiojd before i did, owl city is popular with everyone, plz stop using the word 'hipsters' without some self awareness

i think you have a distorted idea of reading comprehension skills

this is pretty self-aware tbh, ffs

also in general can we cut all the side-stepping around the word "hipster" like it's some ugly "other." I'm so goddamn tired of everyone on ILX being like "I'm fat/old school/unfashionable/nerdy so I'm not a hipster." Jesus christ, we all post on a message board where people deconstruct the meaning of the word "balearic" and transcribe gucci mane lyrics and call Dirty Projectors "boring normal indie" and brag about the blues 78s they found at estate sales. Enough with the posturing already, ffs

― my adrian langs a ton (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, December 11, 2009 3:33 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

.e. there was no classicism i think in the "picking apart" and rofling at die antwoord

classicism?

lol autocorrect

meant classism

oh no -- a silly clown group is making goofy-ass music & people think its funny!!

the constant attention you pay to ilx/williamsboard/whatever those other sites are that i guess represent 'hipsters' just gives those groups even more attention & a disproportionate amount of significance in your head than they have in the real world. its like, if u actually have some critique to make about these ideas, then call out individual writers or something but stop spending time opining abt the motives of some shadow group of cultural antiheroes youve decided need so much damn attention. its just as bad as uncritically propping up every 'hipster' band that gets some buzz ... u can step back & remove yourself from that game entirely

deej, i agree "hipster" is a problematic word and doesn;t exactly accurately describe the diverse world of alt-leaning message board communities who get caught up in leaked mp3s and meta-commentary and sterogum and whatev; and fringey fashiony people. but, seriously "hipster" is currently the most understandable thing we have going. Quit pissing your fucking pants about it.

and uh, yeah, i know people like sufjan aren;'t really "famous" i'm not a fucking retard.

i think you mean fukkin retard

deej, you've done such a enviable job of stepping back and removing yourself from that world entirely

also in general can we cut all the side-stepping around the word "hipster" like it's some ugly "other." I'm so goddamn tired of everyone on ILX being like "I'm fat/old school/unfashionable/nerdy so I'm not a hipster." Jesus christ, we all post on a message board where people deconstruct the meaning of the word "balearic" and transcribe gucci mane lyrics and call Dirty Projectors "boring normal indie" and brag about the blues 78s they found at estate sales. Enough with the posturing already, ffs
― my adrian langs a ton (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, December 11, 2009 3:33 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i agree w/ the first part of this but the 2nd is like ... 'transcribe gucci mane lyrics' is something hipsters do? what? thats something rap fans have done since forever w/ their favorite artists. bragging about blues 78s? dont all kinds of music nerd dorks do that? when """"hipsters"""" is so broadly defined that it includes such vast spectrums where jordan sargent is in the same as steve buscemi's character in 'ghost world' then what meaning does that even have. you start being like ... "can we stop pretending like hipster means something?" (i'm on board) then "because it means us, we're hipsters, and we're not like REAL AMERICA" meanwhile REAL AMERICA has the internet. they know it exists. all it takes is the ability to communicate w/ people and you can enter a conversation w/ people on ilx. the only person who really seems to divide ppl up into condescending groups is whiney weingarten

wow, you are such a dipshit

wait, so reading stereogum is what makes a hipster? then im not one at all

deej you placing yourself outside the whole spectrum of hipsterdom is kinda posing imo...you are on a message board arguing w/the 1000xyes dude. imo you bear some hipster stain yrself my friend

i love deej's implication that he speaks for the common man stumbling across ilx with his democratic internet connection and not a capital-H hipster who has "PITCHFORK WRITER" as the first line on his business card. the "art of pretend unhipness" fucking defined dude, get a grip

in fairness the first article of the hipster creed is "I am not one"

i'd like to state for the prosecution that the one time i met deej it was at the pitchfork music festival and he was wearing boat shoes

and for the defense, his +1 was a black dude

deej you placing yourself outside the whole spectrum of hipsterdom is kinda posing imo...you are on a message board arguing w/the 1000xyes dude. imo you bear some hipster stain yrself my friend

― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, April 12, 2010 2:10 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dog i write for pitchfork. i 'get' this. the stereogum comment was a joke @ whiney's expense. im still pointing out the meaninglessness of this project he has of identifying things that are cool w/ hipsters & things that arent. as far as i can tell, as a human being w/ an interest in culture, the only thing i can do to **not** be a hipster is just not have interests, at all. as soon as i enter into discourse w/ ilx or williamsboard or whatever other sites whiney fanatically keeps up w, then i become **one of them.**

this is totally not about 'me', i voluntarily joined pfork & i dont care/havent for ages whether someone cares if i am a 'hipster' or not -- i just think its a waste of dude's life to keep worrying about this shit because its really so meaningless

you're the one worrying about it, i'm just pointing out that hipsters zing ICP.

you really sound like you don't care whether someone cares if you're a 'hipster' or not. please post 5 more times about how you don't care

its like his entire thesis on hipsterdom is a self-perpetuating loop -- cultural item [x] is a hipster item bcuz i read about it on ilx -> ergo ilx is full of hipsters -> ergo cultural item [x] is hip -> etc

whiney you should post on one more internet medium about how you don't really care and you're just pointing out that hipsters zing icp -- do you have a facebook?

whiney you post non-stop about hipsters constantly. i dont, except when im getting annoyed at your whole corny fake-jaded steez

this is totally not about 'me', i voluntarily joined pfork

are there people who joined involuntarily? OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THEIR BODIES

as soon as i enter into discourse w/ ilx or williamsboard or whatever other sites whiney fanatically keeps up w, then i become **one of them.**

DING DING DING DING DING

and again, stop playing like you're fucking Joe six-pack stumbling into some music chat room to talk about American Idol. You're fucking immersed in alternative culture and certainly immersed in ILX

are there people who joined involuntarily? OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THEIR BODIES

― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, April 12, 2010 2:19 AM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark

brett discresenzo takes out your insides and then inhabits your skin -- he moves quickly through the writing staff as to avoid detection

whiney you post non-stop about hipsters constantly. i dont, except when im getting annoyed at your whole corny fake-jaded steez

― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Monday, April 12, 2010 3:19 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i use the word 'hipsters' beacuse there's currently not a better word to describe what was known as "alt-culture" in the 90s and "punk culture" in the 80s. you're the boner who wants to get all Merriam Webstar about it

every fucking time i might add

i mean seriously, my writing on pf*rk is like the least-concerned with whatever people on williamsboard think about the music i like as it can be (NOTE:: this is not saying anything about whether i am or am not a hipster, just observing that writing about that shit is really super boring). i dont care what rap artists are doing 20 shows at cmj. maybe that makes me **more** of a hipster, bcuz i think im following my own taste or whatever. i dont really care. but id much prefer to write that way than spend all my time agonizing over whether or not j stalin is now a **hipster rapper** because whiney saw a review of him on pfork (or the opposite -- deej thinks hes down with the skreets & hes informing the ''''hipsters'''!! instead of actually reading & understanding what the argument made abt the music actually was)

it is true that whiney does seem to be thinking about hipsterism 24/7 but c'mon, dude is one of those dudes who when he's thinkin about something really gets super-focused & intense about it, that is just how he is as a thinker & that's part of what makes him interesting so lighten up and let a man be himself

whiney can be excused for thinking about hipsterism 24/7 considering that he lives in williamsburg -- it would be like a dude living in a rat cage thinking about what rats are up to all the time -- i think we should feel bad for him more than we should attack him tbh

as soon as i enter into discourse w/ ilx or williamsboard or whatever other sites whiney fanatically keeps up w, then i become **one of them.**
DING DING DING DING DING

and again, stop playing like you're fucking Joe six-pack stumbling into some music chat room to talk about American Idol. You're fucking immersed in alternative culture and certainly immersed in ILX

― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 12, 2010 2:19 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im not u fukkin uncomprehending goofus, this ***isnt about me***
i have the vampire weekend album on my ipod ok? lol @ you continually trying to turn this into DEEJ IS IN DENIABLE ABOUT BEING A HIPSTER i wore boat shoes at a pfork festival this is all very irrelevent to my overarching point which is that your continual ***i am super self aware about hipsters*** nonsense is a load of annoying

i have the vampire weekend album on my ipod ok?

smdh

a dude living in a rat cage thinking about what rats are up to all the time

77 board description imo

j0hn is probably right tho in good hug-it-out spirit three people i was hanging with last nite were astonished to know that i know the guy who did hipster puppies

ok, good argument, i'm off to bed.

in hug-it-out spirit, i'm gonna say that whenever you read the word "hipster" coming from one of my posts, just replace it with, "the wide spectrum of people currently into alternative culture that are both consuming and creating a huge part of the internet discourse we are currently involved in--including certain alt-weeklies, magazines, indie music review sites, music blogs and message board much like our beloved ilx"

i think to be a lil less personal in my annoyance & more fair to whiney, i do think that the constant focus on 'hipsters' does a really good job of obscuring actual existing communities that exist out there & reduces it all to an 'us' vs 'them' reductive mentality that gives one extremely vague subculture an overwhelming weight ... why when i said the sade single was dope on pfork did it become '''hipsters love sade now, huh''' instead of, this one dude likes sade? because it could just as easily have gone the other way, in some sense -- there are plenty of culturally-aware young ppl who uhh i dont know dig 'the wire' or post on williamsboard & dont like sade. & with music it gets super annoying because its like, if im identifying as a 'hipster' do i suddenly have an obligation to care about joanna newsome? or like, i dont know, animal collective? & its not about me saying "yo animal collective sucks!" its about the idea that i should feel obligated to enter into that discussion at all, when i (and im sure some people here) know plenty of cool, reasonably hip people who've never heard animal collective in their lives.

its like, either hipsters are one kind of person or they are multitudes, but a lot of times engaging w/ whiney about this stuff feels like hes trying to have his cake & eat it too

'have his cake and eat it too' meaning 'everyone is basically a hipster' while saying 'gucci is such hipster music' & meanwhile i know 0.0 'hipsters' who give a toss about the dude ... & of course there are some who do, because 'alt culture' covers this huge amount of ground. 'hipsters love making fun of icp' -- well duh, so do lots of people of all walks of life

we gotta have some logic problems here.

not all hipsters listen to gucci, not all gucci fans are hipsters
not all icp zingers are hipsters, not all hipsters are icp zingers

But in both of those cases, a notable amount of people who are undeniably hipsters happen to engage in those activities in 2010. It's not as us v them as u think

Justice Potter Stewart on that azz

but do they do it because they are hipsters, or because their is an overlap w/ 'people who are hipsters' and 'people who make fun of icp,' and it happens to have nothing to do w/ whatever it means to be a hipster, and everything to do w/ hey icp are hilarious

man you dudes can really just ruin any thread, can't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQW1rYdFG98

i saw the best thread of my generation ruined by hipsters

To change the subject back to ICP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX26hS9BeiY&playnext_from=TL&videos=zxa-5mXGhoI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDLbHrIjOTw&playnext_from=TL&videos=bMSzvEO45hk

O_o JUGGALO HOLOCAUST 2009 o_O

man you dudes can really just ruin any thread, can't you?

it is important no matter how much fun you're having to remember that the truly crucial question is always & everywhere "how can this be related to the most vital issue of our age i.e. hipsters"

whiney bringing up hipsters apropos of nothing was kind of annoyingly, depressingly in character, but deej bringing up gucci mane apropos of nothing was some seriously classic hilarious self-parody.

taking sides deathmatch: gucci mane vs. hipsters, or, The Call Is Coming From Inside the House

replace all mentions of 'gucci' with 'kevin smith' & it made no difference

im not going out of my way to NOT mention dude just bcuz im worried about tame al shipley zings

sixty-thousand word argument about hipsters and i still dont know how magnets work

you magnets ruined my favorite thread

you assholes ruined my favorite magnet

you assholed magnetised my favorite thread

you assholed, magnetised my favorite thread

you assholed, magnetised my favorite thread

im not going out of my way to NOT mention dude just bcuz im worried about tame al shipley zings

this shit is beneath you dude just fyi

also, we need to poll whose fault it is that this kickass thread got fucked up & these are your poll options:

1. hipsters
2. gucci mane, the greatest rapper of all time
3. magnets

actually can I just

if you think i'm the only person who shakes their head at your gucci fetish and your white whale vendetta against whiney for the one time a year ago that he mischaracterized gucci mane fans, then i'm happy to withhold my tame zings and let everyone else just laugh at your stubborn bullshit

I guess I left out william carles williams

Insane Clown Gucci

Mane

my god what did u monsters do to this thread, isnt there anywhere on the internet hipsters like myself can zing underprivileged clowns in peace

gonna try to get this shit back on track

http://i43.tinypic.com/15prghk.gif

I guess I left out william carles williams

― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, April 12, 2010 9:02 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

ahem

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/PB122880.jpg

'willim garlos cilliams' has by now fully supplanted the real name fwiw

at least, within my consciousness, although 'william carles williams' is a game stab

this quote seems relevant to the thread

Unfortunately, to get many of the jokes on Hipster Runoff, you have to have some knowledge of hipster culture, at which point, you become part of the joke.

we are all hipster enablers fyi

Willem Guitarlos Killems

Willy 'Miracles' Williams

Gunther Gebel Williams

http://www.karwanphotos.com/images/Celebraties/GuntherWilliams.jpg

not to revive this thread to dwell more in deej land, but i never said or implied "hipster" even once in the kevin smith clusterfuck, so you can put "exhibit b" in a drawer

stfu about hipsters, u awful nerds. this is why we can't have nice things

deej never gave me his AIM address when i asked. :( it would def be more beneficial to the board if we worked this out between ourselves

some hipster mccarthyism going on itt

fyi if you have posted itt you are a hipster :( sorry

deejs sn is: hipstergucci6969

also just so were clear, itt i was making fun of icp for being poor

what happened? i am confused

btw there are apparently a bunch of positive reviews for the newest ICP album, which is completely blowing my mind

blowing your mind as much as magnets

miracles, they're everywhere

somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with doughy body and facepaint of a clown,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the cell phone-filled pelicans.

I'll let somebody else work out how to make the blood-dimmed tide a giant wave of black cherry Faygo. I'm just trying to help the community heal.

what rough clown

woah this thread.

also, we need to poll whose fault it is that this kickass thread got fucked up & these are your poll options:

1. hipsters
2. gucci mane, the greatest rapper of all time
3. magnets

― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, April 12, 2010 8:30 AM Bookmark

When in doubt, I blame 4. scientists

"I fell in love with the first cute girl that I met who could appreciate Georges Bataille/Standing at Swedish festival discussing "Story of the Eye"

― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:37 (9 hours ago)

they're like animals, I tell ya!

I met a down-as-fuck young Jugalette
Who said: Two men, one vast, one lean, both clowns,
dance in the bluescreen. Near them, on the set,
pissed off, a veterinarian, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and pelican in hand,
Ought to be sculpted for posterity:
And to that sculpture, clown makeup applied,
And Faygo sprayed, and hatchetman engraved,
And on the pedestal, these words well-tagged:
"My name is Shaggy 2 Dope, since you asked.
How in the fuck do magnets even work?"
Nothing beside concerns you. Round the sight
Of that colossal, incoherent vision,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

fucking A <3

Hahaha worth the wait A+!

A juggalo is but a paltry thing,
Clown makeup on a stick, unless

I'm watching "A Family Underground" today. Anyone here seen it?

max you need to bite the bullet and finish your work imo

that is no country for scientists

and therefore I have sailed the seas and come
to frisco bay

lol'd @ "no country for scientists"

the lols, they are many

You do not do, you do not do,
any more, clown shoe,
in which I've been dancing in place
for thirty years, poor and white
when I started, now richer than Croesus, it's true.

J0hn D., that was as good as your first effort, which was pretty fucking delightful. Those and "This Is Just to Say, Bitches" upthread have completely made my day.

xp OMG

was waiting for ozymandias to make an appearance

there once was a man from detroit
whose rhyming was less than adroit
so he dressed like a clown
and sprayed faygo around
and now he's as rich as jon voight

:)

i def wanted to bring all this high-brow shit back down to my level of reading comprehension

with respect to your street cred I don't think you can rhyme "detroit" with "adroit" and talk down your literary know-how in the same posting session

at any rate "he dressed like a clown/and sprayed faygo around" is bringing very fine lols

xpost
yeah, but i'm ashamed to say i'm not catching all the chaucer deep cuts itt.

shit is flying over my head like a ghostface lyric to a sufjan fan

Troilus and Violent J

not sure there's been any?

xp

oh fuck have we not done chaucer yet? brb, invoking aprille w/shoures of Faygo sweete

i'm just saying, i'm not getting every poem these are in reference to and am feeling like a total dumbshit

btw can we just take this moment to collectively admit that "Violent J" is one of the greatest, most hilarious stage names of all time?

i'm just saying, i'm not getting every poem these are in reference to and am feeling like a total dumbshit

― i'm so j0rd with the u.S.a (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 12, 2010 3:36 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

READ YR POEMS

btw can we just take this moment to collectively admit that "Violent J" is one of the greatest, most hilarious stage names of all time?

― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:36 (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

should make an ep w/ killer mike

i'm just saying, i'm not getting every poem these are in reference to and am feeling like a total dumbshit

ive def googled a few

almost didn't reconize ozy, just cuz the signature passage to me is "look in my works ye mighty and despair"

No Chaucer that I've picked up on. I tried to figure out a way to make the Wife of Bath have included Violent J and Shaggy in her five marriages but it was beyond my very limited skills as an ICPoet.

Who painted the clownface, tell me who

these woods are lovely dark and deep
they are a fukkin miracle

13 Ways of Looking at a Juggalo

Shaggy, murder, murder, murder you.
You died before I had time--
Magnet-heavy, a bag full of God,
Ghastly clown with one gay toe
Big as a Frisco pelican

these woods are lovely dark and deep
they are a fukkin miracle

I was going to write exactly this, lol

13 Ways of Looking at a Juggalo

Que did that one upthread, his concluding stanzas were fucking brilliant iirc

TO what purpose, pelican, do you return again?
Miracles are not enough.
You can no longer quiet my phone with the redness
Of big beak opening stickily.
I know what I know.
The sun is hot on my neck as I observe
The spikes of fukkin' flowers
The smell of the earth is good.
It is apparent that there is no death.
But what does that fukkin' mean?
Not only under ground are the brains of men
Eaten by magnets
Life in itself
Is magic
A fukkin' rainbow, a flight of pyramid stairs
It is enough that yearly, down this hill,
Shaggy
Comes like a scientist, babbling and strewing flowers.

xpost oh shit! you're right.

Once there were juggaloes in the campgrounds in the Midwest. You could see them standing in the amber light where the white edges of their makeup bled softly in the sun. They smelled of faygo on their hands. Painted and white and stoned. On their faces were clownish patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps and mazes. Of a thing which could not be put back. Not to be made right again. In the deep glens where they lived all juggaloes were older than man and they hummed of mystery.

wow^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Whan that Faygo, with its shoures sweete,
the floor of Zoot's hath soaked to the boardes,
and bathed Violent J in swich licour
of which virtu engendred is much fatte;
when a blunt eek with its sweete smoake
inspired hath in every holt and heath
the juggalos, and the yonge sonne,
doth, miracle straight-up, its half-cours ronne,
and foule shitte transpireth in the vannes
which rocketh in the Detroit parking lottes,
so smeareth make up on yon 2XLs;
and specially from from every shires ende
of Michigan to Lansing East they wende,
the wicked insane clownes for to seeke,
that hem wolle holpen with their beats madd seke.

Eternal win

oh my fucking god

Yay!!!

On first looking into Violent J's Faygo

MUCH have I travell’d in the realms of sound,
And many goodly clown-faced MCs heard;
Round many midwestern states have I learned
Which bards in fealty to Puff are found.
Oft of one wide waist did they expound
That deep-brow’d soothsayer ruled as his demesne;
Yet did I never breathe its pure serene
Till I heard Violent J speak out loud. O, clowned!
Then felt I like some bitch of the skies
When a new miracle swims into his ken;
Or like stout Carles when with eagle eyes
He star’d at the blogosphere—and all his followers
Look’d at each other with a wild surmise—
Silent, upon a pouffe in Williamsburg.

<3 <3 <3

love you, dude, esp.

the juggalos, and the yonge sonne,
doth, miracle straight-up, its half-cours ronne,

OMG

oops I appear to have posted that directly into the slipstream of greatness :/

lololol fuck yes lj what is up, I was waiting for you to get here

V. great Keats riff there.

these are all awesome but just to be clear, we all realize that what is happening in this thread is called "filking", right

I'm sure the Juggalo term for that sounds worse.

mark linkous tribute display name

these are all awesome but just to be clear, we all realize that what is happening in this thread is called "filking", right

what is the emoticon for "clown w/one tear rolling down face"

hey whiney you think you can get us a book deal?

MUCH have I travell’d in the realms of sound,
And many goodly clown-faced MCs heard;

the greatness of this should not go unremarked-upon imo

has anyone done kubla khan btw

'declare a stately bio-dome'

lol

kinda want to send these to my mom (loves poetry), but then i'd have to explain juggaloes and i'm not sure....how to do that

no kubla khan yet (isn't "xanadu" actually an ICP thing - no, wait, shangri-la), and have we had dover beach yet either? idk

lol for a second I confused gbx and jjjusten and was about to say "dude I think you have the mom most likely to comprehend juggalos"

thanks Dan

aw now MY screen name doesn't make sense anymore

I think you have the mom most likely to comprehend juggalos

poll

Gladys 2 Dope
Marcia J

I am imagining explaining juggalos to my mom now

the giggles, they do everything

in frisco bay did violent j a stately pelican to feed

a pouffe in Williamsburg

It makes sense that when Mike E. Clark came back, they'd get some decent beats back again

Just heard this song... and, well, I think it makes sense that when ICP started ripping off The Knife, they'd get HI DERE's acclaim and eternal fandom back again. Skip to 3:40, enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVmH4M7HbT4

you are high 24/7, right

uh

sounds like a yes to me

waht

huh

hey

um

all RIGHT!!!!!!

yeah!!!

woo!

family!

man!

*guitar solo*

hungry

I rolled the last one you son of a bitch

Thank &^%$& for that, I was beginning to feel that I was out-intellectualised. You always use way to many papers!

too many papers, I mean

so after all these years it turns out that I am, in fact, down with the clown.

can i just say right now, if someone wants to start a tumblr called "The Unabridged Anthology Of Poetry Based On Insane Clown Posse's "Miracles" Video" and put all these poems in it; it will be on Hype Machine/Village Voice/Gawker, etc by the end of the week.

I'd do it but I already have a retarded tumblr

*registers theunabridgedanthologyofpoetrybasedoninsaneclownpossesmiraclesvideo.com*

I feel like I didn't really go in on my howl excerpt

we're just talking about turning j0hn d's posts into a book to make him freak out and leave, right

btw i have compiled almost all of the juggaloetry into a .txt

Can someone wrangle some Law & Order cast members (or voices of equal stature) into reciting these?

can i just say right now, if someone wants to start a tumblr called "The Unabridged Anthology Of Poetry Based On Insane Clown Posse's "Miracles" Video" and put all these poems in it; it will be on Hype Machine/Village Voice/Gawker, etc by the end of the week.

I will be pretty bummed out if this happens, I was only here to have fun w/ilx ppl not for any broader thing, everybody knows my position on this stuff already, some dude otm

IOW if somebody does that, please leave mine out, thx

nothing everything has to be a book--i'm just clowning* around here, just for lols.

*LOL

maybe publish them anonymously, or as the 'work' of one Gygax Luna Passantino

not everything has to be a book

everyone would be bummed even if Vincent D'Onofrio busts out his crazy cadence on your rhymes?

The thread is the thread, it has already found its own best form.

whelp, that's the fun sucked right out of it

I'm outta this thread, peace everybody, it was fun while it lasted

yeah john, god forbid someone re-post your poems to the internet

fwiw I do not condone posting these poems anywhere and was just looking for an excuse to type 'Gygax Luna Passantino' which has kinda a ring to it

why you gotta be like that whiney

just trying to fuckin chill on ilx, not get broader attn is all.

oh relax it's not gonna be a blog!

I saved stuff because it's funny!

all things must be transient. all things must be transient. all things must be transient.

But not all transients are things.

If only ICP could be stopped by the threat of broader attention, amazing videos about pelicans notwithstanding.

there's only one way to save this thread and restore ILX's honour

What pelican of magnets and aluminium bashed open their phones and ate up their brains and imagination?

Miracles! Solitude! Filth! Face paint! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Juggaloes screaming under the fukkin rainbows! Boys sobbing in bizzars! Old scientists weeping in the piss!

Miracles! Magic! Nightmare of Miracles! Miracles the loveless! Mental Miracles! Miracles the heavy judger of juggalos!

Miracles the incomprehensible prison! Miracles the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Magic whose butterflies are judgement! Magic the vast neden of war! Fukkin the stunned governments! Bang! Pow! Boom!

Miracles whose mind is pure machinery! Miracles whose blood is running magic! Miracles whose fingers are joker card armies! Miracles whose breast is some sweet fat titties! Miracles whose ear is a smoking tomb!

Miracles whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Miracles whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Shangri-La! Miracles whose factories dream and choke in their face paint! Miracles whose smokestacks and magic crown the fukkin cities!

Juggalettes whose love is endless oil and stone! Miracles whose soul is electricity and wank jokes! Miracles whose poverty is the specter of our customer fan base! Miracles whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen, until they come party at next year's Gathering! Miracles whose name is the Mind! Fuck you scientists!

Miracles in whom I sit lonely! Miracles in whom I dream fundy Christian angels! Crazy in Miracles! Cocksucker in Eminem's crew! Lacklove and manless in I dunno, whatever!

Miracles who entered my soul early! Miracles in whom I am a consciousness without a body! Miracles who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy! Miracles whom I abandon! Wake up in Magic! Light streaming out of the sky and shit!

Miracles! Miracles! Robot apartments! invisable suburbs! skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible madhouses! granite cocks! monstrous bombs!

They broke their backs lifting Miracles to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us!

Visions! omens! hallucinations! neden! miracles! ecstacies! gone down the American river!

Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions! the whole boatload of sensitive bullshit!

Breakthroughs! over the river! flips and crucifixions! gone down the flood! Highs! Epiphanies! Despairs! Join the band wagon wigga it's a juggalo party! Ten years' animal screams and suicides! Minds! New loves! Mad generation! down on the rocks of Time! I stab people!

Real holy laughter in the river! They saw it all! the wild eyes! the holy yells! They bade farewell! They jumped off the roof! to solitude! waving! carrying flowers! Down to the river! into the street!

fuckin ILX threads/how do they work

they work like magnets, like, obviously, duh...

holy fucking shit, a hoy hoy, that's...wow

Fukkin the stunned governments! Bang! Pow! Boom!

What the hell is that based on? I'm kind of guessing Patti Smith?

I was kinda hoping 'Miracles' replaced 'Zombies'

might be a David Icke rant tho

What the hell is that based on? I'm kind of guessing Patti Smith?

― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Monday, 12 April 2010 23:18 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

2nd part of Howl?

The great thing is how much of the original still fits in nicely. I actually think I like Howl better as a JuggalOde.

just trying to fuckin chill on ilx, not get broader attn is all.

FYI it might help if you had a screen name like "ilxor" you know. (Fuckin' screen names / how do they work?)

I HAVE met them at close of day
Coming with Faygo'd faces
From couch or desk among grey
Prefab suburb houses.
I have passed with a throwing of the horns
Or trite bitch-ass whoops,
Or have lingered awhile and formed
Trite bitch-ass whoops,
And thought before I had done
Of a rad Twitter hashtag or zing
To please my internet friends
Around the secret-board of the webforum,
Being certain that they and I
But lived where Faygo is worn:
All changed, changed utterly:
A Juggalo beauty is born.

That b...woman's days were spent
In ignorant music-board,
Her nights to meta went
Until her mind grew bored.
What girl more source of idyll
When, young and molto bella,
She posted then to WDYLL?
This man had kept a tumblr
Where wing was shopped to horse;
This other his helper and stan
Thought ICP weak sauce;
One might have won fame in the end,
Until his domain was creamed,
Until his idea was ill-bought.
This other man I had dreamed
A wanton, suggest-ban-clad sort.
He had done most bitter wrong
To some who are near my heart,
Yet I number him in the song;
He, too, has affirmed his part
In the circus of regret;
He, too, has deemed magnets unknown,
Cellphone pelican-met:
A Juggalo beauty is born.

Hearts with one purpose alone
Through summer and winter seem
Enchanted to a crow
Niagara Falls, the Pyramids, clean
And pure, fukkin rainbows, ghosts
The midnight coast, Frisco Bay
Pure motherfukkin magic, right?
The miracles of every day;
Plant a seed in the ground
And watch God spring it;
A Dark Carnival's found,
And fifteen thousand mosh within it;
The fukkin shooting-stars dive,
And UFOs come to call;
Spring it, and sprung bitches thrive:
Violent J's in the midst of all.

Too great a miracle
Can turn a face into heart
Or make Posse from people
That is Heaven's part, our part
To murmur lyric upon lyric,
As a motherfucker names his verse
When sick beats fall sick
On words that sick souls nurse.
What is it but magic, yo?
No, no, not trick but truth;
Was that pelly wearin' Faygo?
For bitches be uncouth
About all that is blogged fo' sho'.
We know their dream: crack
Or they dreamed of the midnight coast;
And what if excess of wack
Bewildered them till they died?
I write it out in a verse -
Maclean, oh Maclean
And Krawczyk and Momus
Now and in time to be,
Wherever paint is worn,
Are changed, changed utterly:
A Juggalo beauty is born.

awesome sure lj but fyi faygo is a drink

dude!

for some reason I was lumbering under the assumption that Faygo was the facepaint - please read it that way :/

and yeah it is a drink. but

He, too, has deemed magnets unknown,
Cellphone pelican-met:
A Juggalo beauty is born.

a+

or maybe it's funnier if it sounds like they splash themselves with drinks as costume

the farty beatboxing at the end of this tune is the icing on the lol cake.

if you think i'm the only person who shakes their head at your gucci fetish and your white whale vendetta against whiney for the one time a year ago that he mischaracterized gucci mane fans, then i'm happy to withhold my tame zings and let everyone else just laugh at your stubborn bullshit

― some dude, Monday, April 12, 2010 7:57 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im not mad at whiney about anything to do w/ whatever he said about gucci a year ago, im mad because his hipster fetish is making otherwise pleasant threads unbearable, today

i know it like "lol thats our whiney" but imo if dude wants to not be treated a condescendingly as icp fans then he should get called on contributing boring bullshit when he brings it up

"today"

"threads"

guys for fucking out loud take it someplace else

i'm so j0rd with the u.S.a

Just noticed this and had a good LOL.

deej, i'm not gonna get into this again and ruin this thread more. I'm just going to reiterate (for the very last time) that I merely the word "hipsters" as a place holder for a word that doesn't really exist that accurately describes the ilx/williamsboard/alt-weekly/brooklynvegan FUBU circle of content creation and consumption.

Everyone else knew exactly what I meant, I have no idea why you are being such a pedant or a butthurt or a whatever the fuck you're being about it.

In short, just chill; you're making a big deal out of nothing. If you want the last word, I'll let you have it. I'm officially out of this discussion

= **takes high road**

im not mad at whiney about anything to do w/ whatever he said about gucci a year ago, im mad because his hipster fetish is making otherwise pleasant threads unbearable, today

I was angry with my foe;
I am no hipster juggalo

i am suspicious of hipster juggalo rap, tbh.

has anyone done kubla khan btw

― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:09 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

it was done upthread, let me find it

but first, jesus

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/tim-mcgraw/album-let-it-go.jpg

FUBU circle

Everyone is aware that life is parodic and that it lacks an interpretation. Thus lead is the parody of gold. Air is the parody of water. The brain is the parody of the equator. Coitus is the parody of crime.

An umbrella, a sexagenarian, a seminarian, the smell of rotten eggs, the hollow eyes of judges are the roots that nourish love.

A dog devouring the stomach of a goose, a drunken vomiting woman, a slobbering accountant, a jar of mustard represent the confusion that serves as the vehicle of love.

^^ hipster juggalo georges bataille bringing it right dere

just went through the thread can't find the kubla khan one :( perhaps it was only in a vision I once saw/it was a juggalette maid/and on her 808 she played...

re: hipster juggalism, I can't believe ICP aren't self-aware about what they're doing.

And the Pelican begins to be avenged.

Faygo, faygo, every where,
And all the hipster boards did link ;
Faygo, faygo, every where,
Nor any drop to drink.

Glad for two lines of Poison Tree

There's a one-eyed yellow pelican to the north of Khatmandu,

There's a little faygo stall below the town;

There's a broken-hearted Juggalo tends the grave of Violent J,

And the Yellow Pelican forever gazes down.

A juggaloaf and thou.

am really tempted to e-mail this thread to my romantic poetry TA :(

So I have a Juggalo on my caseload now. I found this out last week and managed to say "Oh so you're down with the clown, huh?" with a straight face. He whipped out his ICP wallet as proof that he is, in fact, down with the clown. So today I asked him how magnets work and he said, "IDK, magic?" I LOLd. Turns out he didn't know this song yet. Sent him home with instructions to view vid and report back with a detailed review tomorrow.

!!!

See if he likes our poetry.

I like that he knew the right answer without having heard the song.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2429/screenshot20100412at809.png

Bloody teeth.. yuck.

And I don't wanna talk to an orthodontist

Always telling me to floss, getting me pissed.

I wonder how Violent J feels about the miracle of gum disease?

fuckin how does that work

jonah weiner weighs in.

i don't think this is a terrible song, silly lines excepted. "seeing miracles everywhere" is a common lyrical trope, and i like some of its lines (85000 people in one place, the fatherhood ones).

I've never thought ICP were terrible per se, just boneheaded, and this video is no different

Aren't they deliberately terrible, like the guy who plays Larry the Cable Guy?

They are deliberately cultivating this image, if that's what you mean.

i like the jonah weiner piece.

Yeah that was a good article. Couldn't access the linked Vice feature bcuz of workplace filter but i fucking despise vice so nm.

That Vice article is worth reading.

"They are deliberately cultivating this image, if that's what you mean."
right, and this image doesn't allow for them to put their full intellect on display. instead they play down to their crowd, and revel in it, like the weiner article says.

I said this upthread but several of their earlier songs have references to being straight-A goody-two-shoes before being claimed by the Dark Carnival

so.... do they know how magnets work, or...?

max = does not notice and appreciate miracles.

i just want to know how magnets work

At the risk of sounding like a judgmental, classist jerk, I definitely take issue with the whole "Scientists are liars! Miracles are the real explanation!" element of the song. I don't care if underneath the make-up, Shaggy is a physicist and Violent J is a neurobiologist; encouraging people to discard actual facts about the world in which we live in favor of attributing things to "miracles" is not good. Encouraging skepticism? Definitely. Encouraging people to explore and question? Absolutely. But just straight up insisting that scientists are liars and everything is really just due to MIRACLES OMG is troubling as a world view.

If their encouragement to disbelieve scientists and instead attribute all "unexplained"* phenomena to God is all a part of their crypto-Christian agenda, well, I think that's pretty deplorable, too. I'm not even saying that I begrudge them their religious views. I don't. I'm saying that encouraging people to regress back to some dark age as far as their knowledge of the world is concerned is a bad idea and absolutely worth mockery, regardless of whether these Clowns actually mean it or are actually smart or whatever.

*Unknown to them, I mean. Most of what they are singing about is actually pretty well explained, ie magnets and how the fuck they work - regardless of how many people on ILX know how magnets work, the point is that it is known and pretty easy to look up should one be so inclined. Actually, the first Google search result for "how magnets work" - http://www.coolmagnetman.com/maghow.htm - consists of information presented in 1952. So humans have had a pretty good understanding of magnets for some time now.

no one itt has stepped up to describe how magnets work

And I'm not sure how one is supposed to earn straight As in school if one insists that science is a lie and instead believes that commonly understood natural phenomenon, such as rainbows, magnets, the phenotype of human offspring, and crows are in reality nothing more than inexplicable miracles.

dude we're talking about middle school in MICHIGAN

anyone that thinks that scholastic achievement in grades 5-8 somehow correlates to actual intellect is....a clown

MI used to have good schools, though?

the uberhipsters at Slate are now officially all over this story: http://www.slate.com/id/2250217/

s'late

so can I maybe put forward the opinon that you might be taking this a tad too seriously, Jenny, or will you bite my head off

no one itt has stepped up to describe how magnets work

here is the deepest secret nobody knows
(here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
and the sky of the sky of a tree called life; which grows
higher than the soul can hope or mind can hide)
and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart

the movement of charged electrons create magnetic fields (these fields exert force on other magnetic objects)

The song is funny—imagine Wordsworth gone rock-rap, dropping f-bombs aplenty in praise of the natural sublime.

i think you are describing this thread, slate dude

I'm gonna fess up and say if I ever knew how magnets worked exactly, I don't remember how. I do remember wondering why magnets don't decay over time.
(for example, you can rub a paper clip with a magnet which will make it temporarily magnetic as well -- but why doesn't the magnet lose its magnetism [perhaps more slowly] as well?)

Fukkin stock market how does that work?

did wonder whether the slate person might have read this thread xxp

haha I started reading that "how magnets work" link and let me assure you, MN public schools did not go into that level of detail, not even in middle school

no one itt has stepped up to describe how magnets work

iirc: magnetic force is due to moving electrical charges; a linear magnetic force is produced when electrical charge moves in a circular direction; therefore the electron orbitals of each atom produce tiny magnetic forces as they orbit the atom; magnetic metals are magnetic because in those metals the electron orbitals can easily line up in the same direction, and the billions of atom-sized magnets thus work together to produce a huge force. it's kind of a miracle when u think about it

xposts

Fukkin stock market how does that work?

looooooool earlier today i did quip 'fucking banks.....*pause*....how do they work'

this is the meme of '10 whether we like it or not

as someone unfamiliar with any wider icp eschatology 'miracles' just seems shorthand for the sort of 'look at the carpark' strain of weak optimism that's more or less nondenominational, maybe it is more sinister but the song alone is insufficient evidence

so can I maybe put forward the opinon that you might be taking this a tad too seriously, Jenny, or will you bite my head off

Since you asked so nicely, I will address your concern without biting your head off.

I'm not taking this seriously to the point that I'm thinking about the impact of ICP's teachings and philosophy on the Youth of America when I am not actively engaged in this thread. I'm mostly presenting that argument as a counterpoint to your defense (if it even rises to the level of a defense - maybe it's just an opposing point of view? I don't want to ascribe more ICP-related enthusiasm to your posts that you actually intend) that ICP are actually smart dudes. To sum up my response using fewer words: their regressive world view belies any actual intelligence that they may have.

Some of my apparent passion is probably coming from a TED talk I watched last night about pretty much that very subject (regressive thinking re: science, not ICP, although I would probably watch a TED talk by or about ICP, too). It was mostly in the context of anti-GMO food activists and vaccine deniers, but the common thread is this idea that scientists are liars who are not to be trusted.

In short, I stan for scientists.

TS, which is deeper: ICP "Miracles" vs. Joanna Newsom HOOM.

ICP are exactly the kinds of speakers TED invites!
Dean Kamen and Violent J tag-team powerpointing on segways.

[btw oops sorry -- searched the thread for "slate" before posting but not "weiner" for obvious reasons]

Someone needs to take a Joanna Newsom lyric (something from Ys?) and ICP-ify, stat.

ksh... c'mon buddy.

no

Oh I guess I was also responding to some comments that were kind of in the vein of "making fun of ICP is an elitist thing to do." I'm not making fun of them for their music or their weight or their aesthetic, but I do think there are elements of their schtick that are legitimately worth looking at critically, and the anti-science element is one that stood out the most for me as far as this particular song goes.

to me, the best thing i've read about the song's "real" pov was the slate article--it's just some dudes, smokin stuff, thinkin' about rainbows. it's not any more complicated than that.