mccartney ii is sick

mccartney ii is sick

― dmr, Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:41 PM (3 years ago)

lots of chatter on this, no committed thread 2 it

holler if u know about the double disc bootleg

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T GO CHAAAAAAAAAASING WATER-FALLLLZ

"darkroom" sounds like a p-funk home demo in the best way possible

linda mccartney i was sick

I have heard people talk about this record a lot this year for some reason.

cos it's so rad

I assume it was rad the previous 30 years too, though. Seems like everyone discovered it at the same time.

sanskrit (rip/awol) found me my first copy of this

just got a cleaner one at a stoop sale for a quarter

When I first heard "Temporary Secretary" at an indie club in 2003, I knew this album's time had come.

"Temp Sec" is amazing, but it's all about the vocoder & conga break in "Goodnight Tonight". Wonderful album! McCartney I is pretty wonderful too!

top 10 easily. "check my machine" - bside of waterfalls - is wackiest thing recorded to tape. most of the bsides of those tracks are amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8XwXeDeFJA

lunch box/ odd sox. dude who made the video has a skip in his record and even edits his video to go along w/it o_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nce5tFyqMk

double disc bootleg?

yeah never heard that.

secret friend is a beezer.

http://octaner.blogspot.com/2007/05/lost-mccartney-ii-album.html

was "Goodnight Tonight" included in a rerelease? It was originally a stand-alone single.

This guy has all the unreleased and altered tracks up on YouTube (except "Secret Friend," but do a search because other people have posted it).

Original track listing:

Side 1 (This entire side is instrumentals, apart from some heavily buried vocals or spoken bits)
Front Parlour (About 1:30 longer than the released version)
Frozen Jap (About 2:00 minutes longer)
All You Horseriders
Blue Sway

Side 2
Temporary Secretary
On the Way
Mr. H Atom
Summer's Day Song (Instrumental version)
You Know I'll Get You Baby
Bogey Wobble

Side 3
Darkroom (1:20 longer)
One of These Days
Secret Friend (Slightly shorter than the b-side version/bonus track on the CD)
Bogey Music

Side 4
Check My Machine (3 minutes longer than the b-side/bonus track)
Waterfalls
Nobody Knows
Coming Up (About 1:30 longer)

There was a bit remixing on some of the shortened tracks. The rest of the songs are probably identical to the released versions.

IMHO, most of the unreleased tracks were the obvious choices to drop when it became a single album. "Horseriders" is annoying, "Blue Sway" is bland, "Mr. H Atom" and "You Know I'll Get You Baby" might as well be instrumentals--both lyrics are two lines repeated over and over--although "Atom" chugs along nicely (and it's short), and "Bogey Wobble" doesn't live up to the deeply weird "Bogey Music."

TS: McCartney "Check My Machine" vs. 'Mats "Answering Machine"

fucking weird... i had a dream about this record last night (maybe the night before) and i've never knowingly heard anything on it except "coming up". i can't say i've read any ilx threads lately where it's been discussed in any great detail either.

"Check My Machine" was the first song he recorded on his new home recording console.
I like it's utilitarian nature.

yeah this got hipster-reevaluated at least four years ago. I have always loved it, ever since I had it on 8 track, in 1981.

goodnight tonight wasn't on this but it might be on the EMI reissue. I don't think it was from the same sessions; I know it was credited to wings, I can't tell if it was actually a solo recording or not.

goodnight tonight wasn't on this but it might be on the EMI reissue. I don't think it was from the same sessions; I know it was credited to wings, I can't tell if it was actually a solo recording or not.

It was a band recording, but, yeah, it was included on one of the reissues.

At least it contains "Waterfalls". That is something at least....

I dunno, this album is kinda annoying

yeah this got hipster-reevaluated at least four years ago. I have always loved it, ever since I had it on 8 track, in 1981.

― akm, Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

post of the week

I dunno, this album is kinda annoying

― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:35 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ya hella overrated imo

Never cared for it either. It sounds more primitive and half-assed than McCartney, actually (EVERYBODY BOGEY BOGEY BOGEY BOGEY).

I can see the novelty appeal but yeah it sounds really cheap and unimaginative, loads of pointless repetition, containing only the most skeletally sketched ideas.

part of the appeal

Check My Machine is siiiiiick, ty for posting jaxon

"Bogey Music" is, in part, intentionally bad because it's supposed to be an exploitation record (the first record made for the emerging Bogey market). But McCartney is such a great craftsman that he also throws in that cool instrumental break. It's also quite chilling when he calls the Bogeys "suckers."

I don't understand that at all.

There's a little note about it in italics on the lyrics page.

Taylor Parkes on Macca in The Quietus: http://thequietus.com/articles/01922-paul-mccartney-the-beatles-wings-the-best-of

An excellent essay! It strikes the right note: baffled but awestruck. A few months ago my bud and I, listening to "Let'Em In" on satellite radio, marveled at how a song this determinedly ridiculous -- a song about a doorbell! with a doorbell sound! with military snares!! -- sailed into the Top Five.

Yeah I've been waiting for McCartney 3 for like ever. His #'d solo albums are the best.

ya hella overrated imo

― max, Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:42 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

disappointed in u if ur serious

i am, i just cant get into it

max, does this help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBkySeyiDo

j/k about disappointment obviously but I would have thought it would have been up your alley. Darkroom, Coming Up, Temp Secretary, Check My Machine are all classics imo and the ballads totally grew on me. I just think of it as a great four-tracky weird bedroom pop record.

he was almost my stepdad

what?

the ballad on it are incredible obviously, waterfalls and one of these days are, I think, two of the best songs he ever wrote (that includes any of the beatles work). and the thin sound of the rest of it is exactly what is good about it.

Great essay by Taylor Parkes. I do like the sound of Paul's 70s life-style: happy family life, a sympathetic soul mate who he could make music and go horse-riding with, and being cheerfully bonged out at all times.

I think this might have been one of his happiest times. I remember seeing an interview where he was saying that in the late 70s the Beatles hysteria had died down in the UK - enough that he could get the train from Sussex to Charing Cross and walk to his office in Soho Square without much hassle. One John died the hysteria started up again and that free and easy moment disappeared forever.

Loving these outtakes so far. Thanks!

Wow, "Blue Sway" sounds like Ashra. It even has a tempo change.

I do love the Coming Up video, classic Paul. and a nod to the Sparks even

never been a huge fan of this record ... and yet i'm considering downloading the double lp version on the octaner blog ... paul is sometimes at his best when he's at his most tossed off.

I'm just kidding. Mostly. A few years ago he came into the radio station my mom works at and was flirting with her, but she was recently divorced and didn't see the signs. She's got some of it recorded. He sang her happy birthday.

That's awesome.

lol

Re: the (incredibly irritating) video for "Comin' Up", could someone please tell me who the drummer is Macca is impersonating? Bugged me for years - he looks like a cross between David Bellamy (Americans are advised to google here) and Levon Helm.

Oh right... Wiki tells me it's supposed to be Ginger Baker but it still looks more like David Bellamy meets Levon Helm to me

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http://octaner.blogspot.com/2007/05/lost-mccartney-ii-album.html

― jaxon, Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:13 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

anyone else download from this site but not get track 11?

I got track 11, but my Temporary Secretary was all glitchy.

Strange that those are both tunes from the official release.

couple of good songs on this and it's always fun to check out a weird record that actually charted, but as far as strange home-baked home recordings go, 20 times over I will reach for r. stevie moore's 'phonography'

brilliant mutants trying their hardest vs. famous people coasting, make your choice life is really short

np: 'pipes of peace'

ha ha np: 'lunchbox / odd sox'

ok yeah, even on auto-pilot, pretty lovable

this thread needs a photo of jaxon's mom for completion

np: 'daytime nighttime suffering'

Listened to this for the first time last night - holy shit, this is SICK!!! Why haven't people been drooling over this for years? Completely unlike anything you'd expect from Macca. Reminds me of Ariel Pink somehow... I love "Coming Up" - was it a single or something, cos it sounds very familiar?

Honestly man they have been!

COMING UP!!!

So pleased about this thread and this album. Not least because most of these tracks would've most likely been seen as cackhanded garbage in their day, but it's such a surprise to hear Macca doing a kind of electric psychobilly/new wave party record - never thought he had it in him.

yeah "Coming Up" was a single

The B-side, the live Wings version of "Coming Up", became a #1 U.S. Billboard Hot 100 hit in June 1980. The A-side, the McCartney solo version, reached #2 in the UK.

also the video is upthread dl, it is a traet

I can't get Bogey Music out of my head. I love the little story about how it's an exploitation record for Fungus the Bogeyman.

so someone played the radio slave mix of temporary secretary out a couple weeks ago and it was p much a banger. still cant get into this album but i 'got' it for a second there.

Two-disc and four-disc remaster/expanded versions coming out:

http://thequietus.com/articles/06165-paul-mccartney-reissues-due-in-june

Nice for you guys. I am looking more forward to "Tug Of War", which is his masterpiece. :)

u crazy 4 this one geir!

Is that everything ?

I should add it is his masterpiece as a solo act......

that reissue looks dope EXCEPT it is shiiiiitty to put an edit of Check My Machine on the regular bonus disc and the full-length only on the extra-bonus one, and apparently w/ Band On The Run the 3-disc cost US$20 and the 4-disc cost US$100?!??!??!?!??!?!wtf

amazon lists the deluxe of this at $60 which means it will be less than that. I'm excited, love this album.

wasn't the 4th disc 'much the same' as the extra disc of a few years ago?

I will check this machine....

I don't care about "Check My Machine" (which is rubbish, frankly), but the album may benefit from the remastering if they do a good job. It doesn't sound very convincing on the current version.

"Darkroom" is so great sounding on the original vinyl! Super hot, warm, great separation.

yeah man there are like 5 records i miss owning and this is absolutely one of them, "Summer's Day" sounded SO good with a beer in hand

X-Post: The aesthetic in 1993, when the album was remastered, and also around the original CD release of the album, was very much pro-little separation. Separation has become more fashionable again lately, and that is one thing I really long forward to. The separation is also one of the most important improvements of the current Queen remasters, and they were originally reissued around the same time as the McCartney ones.

Btw. I suppose these will get the same design as the Lennon remasters and Badfinger remasters, with the Apple logo on the back and all.

no, because it wasn't an apple release

(mccartney ii anyway)

i listened to basically nothing but paul mccartney's solo career up until like age 11 or 12

ii is good but not sure if it's better than tug of war. press to play is the one that shouldn't be overlooked imo

mccartney ii boxset is sick

hi craig

paul is dead

(Yo, Jaxon. I've been a deadbeat ex-Chim for a while now--I just logged onto Robots.in.heat for the first time in forever; kudos for evidently keeping the poststream steady, though. I need to jump back in there.)

Anyhoo, some real nice pix/interviews in this ultra-deluxe book/box. Giant reel box reproductions/multitrack rundown sheets, arrangement lead sheets for "Coming Up" and "Waterfalls", and a little bit of synth pron via shots of his Yamaha CS80 and Jupiter 4.

mccartney ii boxset is sick

special edition - €15
deluxe edition - €56

get fuuuuuuuucked

do dig "Temporary Secretary"

I seem to recall that the "Coming Up" video was debuted on SNL.

couple of good songs on this and it's always fun to check out a weird record that actually charted, but as far as strange home-baked home recordings go, 20 times over I will reach for r. stevie moore's 'phonography'

brilliant mutants trying their hardest vs. famous people coasting, make your choice life is really short

np: 'pipes of peace'

― Milton Parker, Friday, July 2, 2010 2:49 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark

I read this thread today and then found out r stevie moore is playing here tonight, too bad I'm busy cause that is some world class synchronicity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWVdpiB5IQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN6xOkHEzjs

I keep seeing this thread and thinking "Poor mccartney ii".

mccartney ii boxset is sick

special edition - €15
deluxe edition - €56

get fuuuuuuuucked

― all cats are gay (sic), Monday, 13 June 2011 13:45 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I've seen it, and it's one heavy duty book to be fair...

The only thing is: Macca1 is 2cds and a dvd, the 'special edition' is the 2cds.

whereas Macca2 has a cd extra for no extra charge on the 'deluxe', but you can't get it anywhere else....

Unless: There is also a 2LP version of both, and a d/l option is provided. Wonder if you get the 'extra' CD with that one? (The deluxe edition provides d/l of all 27 (i.e. specific) tracks)

I'm not rly arsed about the book though! I suppose it could be interesting to read all the stories behind, but
a) I don't need super-thick covers to enjoy that and
b) am not a macca nerd, just like his odder/electronic stuff & love that bootleg double version of the album from upthread and so would like a legit version with more stuff, so the stories are probly 98% boring wank about Linda's pies and Denny Laine's tunings and sheepdogs that I would never read again anyway.

anyway if there's one bloody artist in the world who doesn't need to do post-Radiohead multiple tiers of variously deluxe and boxed versions of a release, in order to monetise their small business in a world of digital piracy, it's Paul McCartney on EMI.

it's weird because i was just thinking the other day that mccartney ii needed a three-disc deluxe reissue

I was trying to work out if McC's offering d/l editions, and I found out he is.

Or is he?

http://www.paulmccartney.com/mccartneyII/gbp.php

You 'buy' the d/l of any of the formats, and you get a 'product unavailable' error.

Maybe next week...

What's the story with "Blue Sway?" There's saxophone on it.

Those d/ls are available now.

Basically, you can get all the 'superdeluxe' tracks for McCartney ii on various d/l formats, at least one of them is £12.99

Orchestration by Richard Niles on "Blue Sway." New video for the song up.

"Bogey Wobble" is quite nice, isn't it? Appreciated for a while how he used live drums on a lot of this.

Artists ask McCartney questions about their favorite II tracks

Erol Alkan, DJ: Which musician did he greatly admire while making that album?

McCartney: Certainly Talking Heads. I love David Byrne's eccentricity, that's very appealing. And I like his not-mainstream attitude... I was also listening to things like John Cage, Luciano Berio, Cornelius Cardew. I went to their concerts in London because I had plenty of time on my hands so it was the kind of thing I would go and see. Again, just to see what it was about, not necessarily because I was a massive fan. It was more like: what is a prepared piano? Oh, that's what it is. You know, funky stuff like that.

He went to see The Rapture. Not necessarily because he was a massive fan. It was more like: what is a cowbell? Oh, that's what it is. You know..

After years of visa refusals due to his past marijuana busts, Japan had finally allowed McCartney, and thus Wings, to perform. It would be McCartney's first time playing there since 1966 with The Beatles, and anticipation was running high with Wings' tour completely sold out. However, upon his arrival in Tokyo on 16 January 1980, a search of McCartney's luggage revealed a bag containing 219 grams of marijuana, prompting his immediate arrest and eventually cancelling the tour. After a nine-day jail stay, McCartney was released and returned home to his Scottish farm. Deciding to put Wings on hold while he contemplated his future, he now decided to issue his solo recordings from the previous summer.

219g!

Paul McCartney: tha big cheezer!

I grew up listening to 'Check My Machine' and generally dancing round the living room to it as a four or five-year-old.

Hot Chip's Alexis Taylor was into McCartney II when he was FOUR YEARS OLD, poser!

Is that a mellotron on "Summer's Day Song?" Sounds like mellotron on the flute setting.

I listened to my vinyl copy last night, which is not in great shape so perhaps the remaster reveals new subtleties or something. Anyway, more than half of it is a stone bore.

an edited highlight's of mcc.'s solo career could be marvellous, i think. but i feel exhausted at the idea of listening to see what is actually good. like, oh! look! a record with trevor horn! now which is the good track.

or, like, 'the fireman'. there's three cds of that business now! i don't know how i feel about that!

This site documents all his mellotron use!

http://www.planetmellotron.com/revmacca.htm

Never knew about the mellotron sax setting. Apparently, that's what the reedy sounds on "Coming Up" and "Bogey Music" are.

second one's good, first one's boring, All The Best is a p good singles comp, you're welcome (xpost)

i dunno sic it seems to have both 'pipes of peace' and 'mull of kintyre' on it, that would go against my rule against listening to any record with two tracks with 'of' in the title

About ten years ago a friend burned a CD-R of Macca highlights: a diverse set of B-sides, album tracks, one-offs. It and All The Best are all I need.

Is that a mellotron on "Summer's Day Song?" Sounds like mellotron on the flute setting.

Yes. Always thought this one sounded like Paul had been listening to the second side of Before and After Science.

Love Paul but he's really annoying on most of this, no? I like the instrumentals.

really need to pick up this deluxe edition. this has been my favorite mccartney album since I got it on 8 track in 1985!

i dunno sic it seems to have both 'pipes of peace' and 'mull of kintyre' on it, that would go against my rule against listening to any record with two tracks with 'of' in the title

ha

I really liked Mull Of Kintyre but I was a kid when All The Best came out and I met all those songs so

"Pipes Of Peace" is a great song from a not-so-great album.

no it isn't

I had "All the Best" as a kid, and I remember it started off great but halfway through really demonstrated why he was so hated, after the plunge into the most ultimate syrupy stupid lame cheesy pop you've ever heard in your life.

Much rather recommend either of the 2 solo records or "Ram" over "All the Best".

Haven't heard it in a while, but I remember listening to "Pipes of Peace" once in headphones and being super-impressed by the arrangement. (George Martin worked on that record, of course.)

Especially the bit toward the end, I think - is there a full orchestra on that?

I had "All the Best" as a kid, and I remember it started off great but halfway through really demonstrated why he was so hated, after the plunge into the most ultimate syrupy stupid lame cheesy pop you've ever heard in your life.

side four sucks balls if you can't take Kintyre tbh

Looking at the personnel listings - maybe it's not that many players. I remember the tabla on there.

If "No More Lonely Nights" is the example of syrupy stupid lame cheesy pop, I've got my finger on SB ready to go.

All The Best should have replaced "My Love" with "Press."

Yeah but this is while i was a kid. In this post-Ariel Pink world where 80s cheese is fine, I find it much easier to appreciate.

Ariel Pink. In a McCartney thread.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/Give%20My%20Regards%20to%20Broad%20Street.jpg

HE'S IN THE BOG!!

Ringo has died of dysentery.

OK, so I brought back Then Play Long 36 hours after saying I wouldn't; let's just say "popular demand" is responsible, but anyway: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/paul-mccartney-mccartney-ii.html

Don't take away your blog, Marcello, I've only just started with it and it's so great.

I was surprised how many people said that to me (but like you I myself am anxious to see how the "story" turns out)!

Those hit counts? I'm responsible for a lot of those.

SHANGRI-LAS VERSUS THE VILLAGE PEOPLE

discovering McCartney II was a highlight of 2014

wow, temporary secretary sounds like drexciya

"Temporary Secretary" v likely my fave post-Beatles thing of his

its so obvious somebody in animal collective was hyped on mccartney ii

I like a lot of this record, but I don't listen to it as often as I do other McCartney albums these days.

Yeah temp sec blates = #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_K6jrim30

Ha, no way! Seems a bit weird to see 2015 McCartney (and his touring band) performing this song. It'd be great if he did a whole set of some of his more interesting post-Beatles numbers.

Actually really like that. His voice not being able to hit the high notes so much makes the chorus less annoying.

hey my parents were at that show. my mom hates that song, which is probably why it's taken so long for him to play it live.

Dude is playing "Temporary Secretary" to a packed crowd at MetLife Stadium in NJ right now

Hoffman-forum rumor has it there's a "McCartney III" coming before the end of the year. I'll take it

you guys

MCCARTNEY III IS COMING

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/paul-mccartney-new-album-mccartney-iii-1077937/

sick

Is this the one with Gary Cherone?

lol

IMHO, his last decent record, Chaos & creation... was made almost entirely by himself, so bodes well for me, perhaps.

agreed

Just noticing that Mr H Atom is very William Onyeabor.

I love that Get Back has sent all us ILMers to revive every solo McCartney thread en masse.

(and yes, good call)

great call

Sorry that McCartney ii is sick, hope he feels better soon

wow yet another example of me being right on the internet for starting this thread

Personally I credit dmr

with starting the thread? bold choice.

Picked up a vinyl Beach Boys Love You today, and upon revisiting I feel it is the Pet Sounds to McCartney II's Sgt. Pepper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xpvmyTceE

alex is killing it at the moment

very fun video!

I wish paul would play “temporary secretary” live again. it’s great that he did it in 2015 but he may not know just how big it still is now. the people have spoken!

Picked up a vinyl Beach Boys Love You today, and upon revisiting I feel it is the Pet Sounds to McCartney II's Sgt. Pepper.

xp It looks like he played it one time in 2022, but that was during a VIP soundcheck set. Other than that he hasn't played it since 2017. I'm still futilely hoping he'll whip out "Secret Friend" one of these days...

secret friend is mr bellamy to temporary secretary's fuh you

weird spacey mccartney is so much more fun than creepy horny mccartney and I don't know why that song has caught on so much lately other than the wtf is this the silly love songs guy factor (which you can get with other better songs)