― alex in nyc, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tim Baier, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Classic? Yes, natch, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I too saw them on the aborted tour with Public Enemy & Gang of Four at NYC's Radio City Music Hall. Finest moment was when Andrew came back out for the encore wearing a Public Enemy baseball jersey.
― Dr. C, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
The best gig I was never at was the one in the early 1980s where the Sisters of Mercy were supported by an up-and-coming Smiths.
― The Dirty Vicar, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
nostalgia - classic, in hindsight - dud
when i wasnt sleeping through the 80s i avoided becoming a goth by whistling 'Delia Sands' by the Brilliant Corners and skipping in my Starbrite pyjamas.
NO NO I MUST BE HARD CHARVER OVERLORD RUFFNECK RIPPINITUP.......
― Geordie ROBOT, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Omar, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Dr. C, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― alex in nyc, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Oh yes, I'll admit, VISION THING was pretty lame but FLOODLAND was epic at its best. Love the bass line from "Lucretia".
― Tim Baier, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― David in New Zealand, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
ALICE! Don't - give it away!"
I love this band.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― kephm, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost
― kephm, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
OWNZ
― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I struggle to forgive Eldritch for three shows now (one with Depeche Mode in 91, Reading Festival with Tony James 92? and one a couple of years ago in Glasgow) for very nearly making me not care about this band any more.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Be honest Alex - if you could stand the best Wayne song against even the worst Benn Gunn era song, who would win? Exactly. (It's also worth noting at least a few of those songs existed as rough versions before Wayne turned up - see also some Mission and Ghost Dance {the only one of the lot to embrace their Glam roots properly} songs having turned up at Sisters soudchecks.)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.denis.co.uk/acatalog/dor-mi-wh-uu-l-0001.jpg
― Big Wayne (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
If I posted a note transcription instead, most would shrug. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
that said, they do have some classic jamz.
― Geoffrey Mark Maddock (cutups), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:01 (nineteen years ago) link
ihttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/aldo_cowpat/dalek.jpg
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:05 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM re pre-Wayne era Sisters, though there are still a few good tracks to be found during and after Wayne. That version of 'Sugar Baby Love' I grabbed off your slsk roxorz, not so sure about 'He's got the whole world in his hands' though...
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
To be fair, Mr E does say before it that you'll all hate it.
OK, I may have overstated slightly the shiteness off the Wayne era and beyond, but decent tracks are few and far between. I've never rated Marian, btw.
Eldritch + Steinman should = genius, instead = quite good.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
And is the SSV album that bad? I've never managed to find it anywhere.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.thesistersofmercy.com/gen/ressv.htm
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm with Siegbran there -- there were a number of albums that Merciful Release put out in the early nineties that were non-SOM, but none of them seemed to be a guise for the man himself.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
In regards to new material and you personally - the last thing I am aware of you ‘releasing’ was some remixes for Die Krupps in 1994. What are you up to lately? Anything new since then - or in the works? Rumour has it that you’ve produced a couple of techno albums under various pseudonyms - any truth to this?
You are very well-informed. That is a rumour I will not deny (although I prefer the description "ambient-pop-industrial-techno hybrid with tunes and intelligence"). Nor would I confirm it if it were true - because rumour has it that I actually performed the albums in question. My contract with East West prevents me from being a featured artist in any other arena, and East West are prepared to spend a lot of money in court to uphold their belief that the contract is still in force. Even if I had a pathological need to openly perform on records, I would need an awful lot of money to assert my freedom. I have neither, so it's not much of an issue.
Actually, East West are preparing to spend a lot of money in court to uphold their belief that I should be forced to make records for them. Most labels give up when the artist has been on strike for four years or so. East West are so desperate that they won't give up ...after seven years. That really is desperate.
That sounds like a "yes, it's true but I can't legally say so" to me.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I just can't get into any of the studio albums thereafter... although, yeah, I do like "This Corrosion" for its goth campiness, and can't get it out of my head, because it was my first exposure to the band, via that video...(oooh yeah, shore more pits, Patricia.. "Sing!", girl)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Unfortunately, the promoters pulled the entire tour -- probably due to poor ticket sales -- but I remember Eldritch saying something about how promoters were afraid to take risks on line-ups that would cross-pollinate audiences from very different musical territories, etc..
and then a year or so later, along came the first Lollapalooza.
(Not saying a Sisters/Public Enemy tour would be the first atypical tour, but I thought it was a cool gesture on both bands' parts to try it.)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
...with Gang of Four as openers.I saw it roll through Radio City Music Hall. Andy came out for the encore wearing a PE baseball jersey, which was dead cool, i thought.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 25 March 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link
I just can't summon up a desire to listen to them now, although that Sisterhood record was extraordinary and I wouldn't mind hearing that again at all.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
The Reptile House record was my favourite, if I recall correctly, although Temple of Love 12" really blew my mind when I first heard it.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link
DOMINION!
classic, obv
― daria g (daria g), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Does anyone remember James Ray & The Performance?
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link
For me, when the Sisters ceased being a "band" per se and just became Andrew and whomever else he happened to have recently befriended, I sort've lost interest a bit. Once Wayne and Craig left, they took much of the mystique with them (only to squander it in a very silly fashion in the Mission who, I must confess, I was a rather large fan of for a while).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Most of what James Ray did was sub-Sisters piss but Texas is a fine single and is pretty much everything you should ever own by him (says the guy with Gangwar albums stagnating around here somewhere).
I went to see them a Bath Moles around 1991/2 just to convince myself James Ray wasn't just a guise under which Eldritch could release any crap he wanted. 16 people turned up, it was shite.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I stand by what I said upthread though, it was all downhill after Adrenochrome.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link
"For me, when the Sisters ceased being a "band" per se and just became Andrew and whomever else he happened to have recently befriended, I sort've lost interest a bit."
Actually, that's when I start loving them.
I the fake-rock Steinman stuff and only like the I'm-too-gloomy-for-my-leathers gothy stuff.
― Ian in Brooklyn, Friday, 25 March 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian in Brooklyn, Friday, 25 March 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't see the video until way after the fact.....and it's embarassing (though not as embarassing as the Mission's clip for "Stay with Me", which -- I believe -- was intended to be silly and over the top). Not sure if "This Corrosion" is supposed to be taken seriousy or not as a video, but it was dire.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Their version of "Gimme Shelter" is beyond outstanding.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link
"pass the salt."
"..AND I NEED ALL THE LOVE THAT I CAN'T GET TOO!"
"Good fries, these!"
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:36 (nineteen years ago) link
That's all I need (oh-- and "MARIAN")...
a very drunk-at-5:30 a.m. CLASSIC
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 26 March 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Although the Reading Festival appearance with Tony James that someone else alluded to above, when they came back out and did a camped up version of 'He's Got The Whole World In His Hands' was one the worst five minutes I've ever stood through at a live gig.
― Si Carter (Si Carter), Saturday, 26 March 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 March 2005 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Call the press, Trayce doesn't like the Sisters OMG.
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 27 March 2005 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― late adopter, Sunday, 27 March 2005 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― late adopter, Sunday, 27 March 2005 06:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Sunday, 27 March 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Hahaha, there were fries and everything! You're almost completelly OTM except replace "salt" with "ketchup".
― donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Merciful release put out some pretty OK stuff, too...March Violets & the first Salvation 12" are real cool.
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm going to transcribe that this weekend.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Die Emanzipation von Baaderonixx (redukt) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link
That would be awesome.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Die Emanzipation von Baaderonixx (redukt) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link
GIFT by the Sisterhood -- Classic or Dud
As started by Alex in NYC
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I honestly did not know this was possible!
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd also forgotten that "Torch" is fucking fantastic.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link
great musical mistakes: buying a Ghostdance album because it had former members of the Sisters of Mercy playing on it.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 16 June 2005 08:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, Gary Marx's band. No good? Never got around to hearing it.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 16 June 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 June 2005 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pangolino 2, Thursday, 16 June 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Presence.
...and didn't Simon Gallup have a band too?
Dance Fools Dance.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 June 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Hey DAN, did you go to the vision thing tour w/me? I can't remember...Danielle Dax opened, which was odd. The best part of the show was when she was completely obscured on stage by the mighty fog machines of SOM coming to life towards the end of her set.
― John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Did anyone catch Black Strobe dropping in the bassline from "Lucretia My Reflection" during their Radio 1 Essential Mix last Fall? Brought a wide smile to my face....
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 10 November 2005 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 November 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 10 November 2005 06:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 16 January 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 16 January 2006 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Listening to Lucretia My Reflection now, awesome track.
― Miranda Leigh (Miranda Leigh), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx: the lost ILX years (baaderonixx), Thursday, 10 August 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 10 August 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
It's but a small part (ahem!) of a much larger feature!
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/weekly_article/england-fades-away-stylus-magazines-guide-to-goth.htm
The splashpage is pretty tight, too, and Sisters related.
(AHEM!)
― Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link
"a mate of mine was oncesharing his bag of whizz with Eldritch at Reading when the convo turned tofootball, and Red chancer Eldritch revealed that he'd been at the Euro CupWinners Final when Man Yoo turned over Barca. The sudden image of a sea ofred with one black clad doom monger breaking up the symmetry was too much,and he had to leave the dark lord suddenly before he burst out laughing."
---
"Afew labels have expressed an interest in signing the Sisters but hisdemand for four million plus the A&R person having to be dressed as aclown during all and any meetings with the band has tended to put themoff."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― J.H. Malerman (xada_hgla), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
I love it!
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Reissue one:
1. Black Planet 2. Walk Away 3. No Time To Cry 4. A Rock And A Hard Place 5. Marian (Version) 6. First And Last And Always 7. Possession 8. Nine While Nine 9. Amphetamine Logic 10. Some Kind Of Stranger
Bonus Tracks 11. Poison Door 12. On The Wire 13. Blood Money 14. Bury Me Deep 15. Long Train 16. Some Kind Of Stranger (Early)
Number two
1. Dominion/Mother Russia 2. Flood I 3. Lucretia My Reflection 4. 1959 5. This Corrosion 6. Flood II 7. Driven Like The Snow 8. Never Land (A Fragment)
Bonus Tracks 9. Torch 10. Colours 11. Never Land [Full Length] [Previously Unreleased Outtake] 12. Emma
And last
1. Vision Thing 2. Ribbons 3. Detonation Boulevard 4. Something Fast 5. When You Don't See Me 6. Doctor Jeep 7. More 8. I Was Wrong
Bonus Tracks 9. You Could Be The One 10. More [Extended Version] 11. Doctor Jeep [Extended Version] 12. Ribbons [Live] 13. Something Fast [Live]
The last, I think, I can live without.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 20 October 2006 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link
What label is doing these, by the way?
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 20 October 2006 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 20 October 2006 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=17959_0_2_0_C
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 20 October 2006 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx in the year of the locusts (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 October 2006 07:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link
YES I DID. Awesome awesome show.
F&L&A appears to be essential.
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link
these two and the other 12" b-sides are the only reasons to get these post-shark-jumping discs...every year I get a little more pissed off at how this band went from rule to suck in such a short period of time
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― ONIMO's lips can't feel! (GerryNemo), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=18248_0_2_0_C
― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― ONIMO has fallen into changing screen name HELL (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link
You've gone deaf.
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 07:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 26 October 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Very nicely reissued, cardboard foldy things with booklets, two nice articles by Michael Bonner (Uncut Magazine) - there's some stuff in there I didn't know (and I've been quite a sisters freak way back when, so I'm impressed), lyrics to Floodland, not to F&L&A.
How do they sound?Well, F&L&A is the vinyl mix that was on the original LP, nice & clear mix, and Floodland, well, I don't know, Baaderonix was right, there isn't much they can do with this. It sounds a little louder in places, perhaps (the choir intro to This Corrosion?), but it's not very clear what happened.
Listen for yourself:http://rapidshare.com/files/1842737/blackplanet_dominion_comparisons.zip.html
This is a zip file with 4 256kbps (LAME CBR) mp3 files. They are:blackplanet_original.mp3 = the first minute of the 1988 CD editionblackplanet_remastered.mp3 = the first minute of the 2006 reissuedominion_original.mp3 = the first minute of the 1987 CD editiondominion_remastered.mp3 = the first minute of the 2006 reissue
Ripped with EAC, no normalization or anything else.
Oh, the bonus tracks rule. I always forget how much I like the full Never Land because it's on a shitty old tape somewhere and I hardly listen to tapes anymore.
(it's for educational purposes and it's only the first minute - if this is still illegal, please delete & accept my apologies)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
I think Neverland is my fave SoM tune, despite its throwaway-ness. The image of Eldritch with his ticket to Syria, getting ready for a life on the run, is so vivid...
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link
20 seconds of Blood Money and 40 seconds of Emma (sounds amazing)
http://rapidshare.com/files/1855615/em_bm.zip.html
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
also, whichever "flood"--1 or 2, can't remember--precedes "lucretia" on floodland doesn't get nearly enough love. sets "lucretia" up as well as "shooby-do" sets up "candy-o" ... as i make this association i suddenly apprehend that it's far from coincidental.
― literalisp (literalisp), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 3 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 3 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Haha, yes. There's just this endless series of killer bridges...
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 4 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 4 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link
The whole remixed album is *interesting*.. Absolutely no mids - was it supposed to sound that way originally?? The "Black Planet" intro sounds as if coming out of a cheap car radio...
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 4 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 4 November 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Sunday, 5 November 2006 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link
I always thought that was a wonderfully bitter and spiteful way to end it.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link
DOMINION
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 1 July 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Absolute, undeniable classic.
― Jeff Treppel, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I feel like a bad goth for skipping over "This Corrosion" when I listen to Floodland
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Listening to your show right now, Curtis - "Dark Entries" is a great name for it/opener. Makes the hair on my arms stand on end, that song.
― Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link
please excuse my fucked-up-ness on the mic, I was completely out of it
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh who cares man, to have someone play ME an old Red Lorry Yellow Lorry track is enough. I'm just humbled about that. Makes me feel like I did when I heard some college radio station in St. Louis played an old Fall track, and it just made me feel like royalty, so privileged. Not me playing it someone ELSE but someone actually playing it to ME. No, this is fantastic, Curtis, please don't apologize.
― Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, and old Sisters of Mercy is next! Why this is just fine, fine stuff, I say.
― Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't remember which (witch) Sisters song this is, but it's definitely one of my favourites from their early material. "In the violent house/in the violent sound/going round and around and around..." "slow...slow...quick quick slow...see those babies go go go go go!" Yeah I'll have to figure out which one that is later.
Now you're playing Siouxsie. There's a Siouxsie song I've been thinking of lately that I've been trying to identify. I must write that down. It's something off Join Hands. Not Hong Kong Garden, something else.
― Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link
it's really, really fun to try to sing like andrew eldritch, in case anyone didn't already know.
― andi, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Bimble:
That song is "Floorshow". It's on "Some Girls Wander by Mistake"
And I think it's actually "See those <B>pagans</b> go go go go go!"... which makes it even better in my opinion.
― novaheat, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, and Sisters of Mercy = total classic. Even "Vision Thing" has got some great material on it, despite being the weakest of their main albums.
― novaheat, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes! Even better if the lyric is "see those Pagans go go go go go!"
― Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Yr goth show was totally awesome Curtis :D I hope you do end up getting the regular slot!
― Trayce, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link
showing my age... I think of it as being on the 12" of 'Alice'.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 1 July 2007 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― novaheat, Sunday, 1 July 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, Curtis - do you need me to bombard the powers at be with emails or something? I could pretend to be different people by switching email addresses. Or I'd even call them on the phone. Let me know what I need to do.
I used to have all the old Sisters records, but haven't had them in a long time now. Don't feel a need to have them again, but it's nice to hear something from those every once in a while.
― Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Will they release an album before GnR?
― baaderonixx, Sunday, 1 July 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Anyone else heard "You Could Be the One?" One of my favorite b-sides of all time. Just a hilarious kiss off, and catchy to boot.
― Jeff Treppel, Monday, 2 July 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Yea, "You Could be the One" is great. It actually sounds like a GnR tune.
― baaderonixx, Monday, 2 July 2007 08:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Anyone like the new (well, once new) material played live but never released? "Crash and Burn", "We are the Same Suzanne" and "War on Drugs" are favourites of mine.
― mayhaps, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I actually kind of liked that "Screw Shareholder Value..." album that he "released" on the internet a few years ago to get out of his record contract.
There's something vaguely threatening about Andrew Eldritch reciting in monotone the dimensions of an aircraft over bland techno music with the drum tracks removed.
― novaheat, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Agreed on "You Could Be the One" -- it wouldn't have fit in on Vision Thing but it's a fine little one-off.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
"Flower children never bore me..."
Overall length eight hundred and seventy millimetres, Length of barrel four hundred and fifteen millimetres, Length of sighting line three-hundred and seventy-eight millimetres.
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
<i>There's something vaguely threatening about Andrew Eldritch reciting in monotone the dimensions of an aircraft over bland techno music with the drum tracks removed.</i>
it's actually taken from an ak-47 manual and it's lucas fox, not eldritch reciting.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
bugger. keep forgetting about the html thing.
come to think of it, i don't think eldritch's vocals appear on 'gift' at all.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
indeed. Listen to Colours from Gift and Colours from the Floodland CD: one is Fox, the other one is Eldritch.
― StanM, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link
"Colours" is Alan Vega no?
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
nb I prefer the Sisterhood version of "Colours" by a mile
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link
also I'm fairly certain novaheat wasn't referring to "Finland Red, Egypt White" (which definitely has drums), I was just posting the lyrics for no particular reason
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Confused! Fox is a drummer. James Ray is the main vocalist on Gift. (is Colours Vega? Could be, I don't know)
― StanM, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link
(even more confused! Fox does read the AK47 manual) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sisterhood
:-/
― StanM, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Colours = Vega Giving Ground = Ray I think Rain From Heaven is Vega/Ray/Morrison together
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link
(and Fox doing the spoken part)
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm still not convinced that it's Vega singing on Gift's Colours.
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I've never heard Ray sing like that.
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I picked up Gift for 13 bucks at a record store, because it was a Sisters of Mercy thing that I had never seen/heard before (they're one of the few bands where I'll grab singles or random crap from because there's bound to be something awesome on everything they put out). Man, that is a weird little artifact.
― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I put it on in the car once when I was driving with friends, and they were really confused. The AK-47 song is definitely the winner. Gift is up there with 25... Tab as far as weird contract fillers go.
― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Gift is fucking awesome and I will hear nothing else. Best Sisters album of them all (if we're not counting the comp of the Merciful release stuff).
― aldo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Big problem with Gift is the absence of Eldritch on vocals. His delivery is a large part of the reason I love the band so much.
― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah I was going to say, I just don't think Eldritch sings on Gift at all. I don't think that's actually a problem, though.
This thing with trying to pinpoint Vega on Gift drove me crazy before, though and I'm not about to pull that out and try to figure it out again. I give up.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Eldritch didn't want to sing on the album so as not to cause any legal problems with the name dispute or something. That's what he claims, anyway.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay, I've listened to Colours again now and I just do not think it's Vega. It's too freaking subtle for him. He's supposed to be doing an Elvis thing, you know. Tone of voice is lower/different, too. Nah, I don't buy it. Not Vega.
Rain From Heaven might be a different story, though. He could be in there somewhere.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been arguing for years that Andy should cover "You Could Be Mine".
― Edward Bax, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link
OMG I have never heard this, it sounds kind of freaking awesome! Is it?
― Trayce, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Um. Kind of. The "Screw Shareholder Value" album doesn't sound like a Sisters of Mercy album at all... basically it was some piece of garbage he put out to get out of his record deal. Info here. More <a href="http://www.sisterswiki.org/index.php/Go_Figure_%28album%29">here</a>. The "Sisters Wiki" page has lyrics for most of the SSV songs, so you can see that the songs "Two in the Nose" and "Bad Vultee" are definitely about airplance, not AK-47's.
Also, his "vocal delivery", if it can be counted as anything more than a disinterested murmur, kind of adds to the overall creepiness value.
That being said, the album does have a weird ambiance about it. It doesn't sound like a Sisters record, it's not that good... but there's something about it I like.
― novaheat, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, shit. The proper link is this.
― novaheat, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I really want to know who does sing "Colours."
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=171447#171447 Q).re. "Colours" -what did you think of the Floodland version compared to the Gift version? I prefer the Bunnymen's Colours. were you narked that Von re-recorded the vocal or pleased when it wasn't as good as the original? A)It's of no interest to me as I didn't do the vocals on the original
― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Well it's 1969 okay got a war across the USA
There's nothing here for me and you just sitting here with nothing to do
― Bimble, Monday, 20 August 2007 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Ha! So I was the last one to post on this thread. How amusing. I find myself listening to and enjoying the material on Some Girls Wander By Mistake now and this is stuff I never really expected to be into anymore since I was a teenager. Not sure why but my forays into Sisterdom since then bore no fruit. I'm rather intrigued with the "Phantom" instrumental for example - and I can't understand why I don't remember that one since I certainly had the vinyl it was on.
Also - I could never quite accept that "Gimme Shelter" was really a Rolling Stones song.
― Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Run around in the radiation
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Burn Out In The Acid Rain.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 20 March 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link
BLACK
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link
SOMEDAY SOMEDAY SOMEDAY DOMINION SOME SAY PRAYERS SOME SAY PRAYERS
AND I SAY MINE
― HI DERE, Friday, 21 March 2008 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link
THERE'S A WHITE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF RUSSIA
― jessie monster, Friday, 21 March 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I'M LIVING IN FILMS FOR THE SAKE OF RUSSIA A KINO RUNNER FOR THE DEE DEE ERR
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Much as I like songs like "Body Electric" and "Anaconda" and all, I do like being able to audibly hear the Sisters suddenly and totally jell with "Alice."
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:40 (sixteen years ago) link
they never gelled as well as they did on "The Damage Done"
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link
"Home of the Hit Men" or nothing. Okay maybe "Kiss the Carpet (Reprise)"
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link
SEE THOSE BABIES GO GO GO GO GO!!!!!!
No seriously though, it's really "Watch" that kills me the most off this CD because that is some SERIOUSLY BADASS PIL-ish Metal Box era BASS. That is about as good as post-punk EVER gets.
― Bimble, Saturday, 22 March 2008 06:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Just happy to see the Sisters continue to bask in ILM love.
― Lostandfound, Sunday, 23 March 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link
(Grammatically, that was shite.)
I preferred my mis-hearing of the Floorshow punchline when I was in high school: "see those pagans go go go go go"
― J0hn D., Sunday, 23 March 2008 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought that's what it was!
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 23 March 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, me too.
― Lostandfound, Sunday, 23 March 2008 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, well it's "babies"
my then-girlfriend and I used to discuss the relative merits of what we wished he'd been saying vs. what we were pretty sure he was actually saying
― J0hn D., Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I feel I should quote the entire lyrics of 'You Could be the One'
All God's children give good phoneI called Jesus, he's not homeSo I'm so pleased to talk to youTrees and walks I love them tooThreatened species, they adore meFlower children never bore meBut all the things you share areBetter left unsaidWhen you can give me headAnd run your fingers through my hairYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, we can meditateYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, let's call it fateYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, to get your flowers pressedYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, just get undressedAhhh I'm so glad to find you hereMystic people, they're so dearI don't like the restYour sign's the bestWhatever it is, I'm most impressedIIIII don't need to understandThe laying on of handsI'm in a hurry to get my collar straightCause life is short, and I can't waitSo don't worry about the state of this pretty little thing in the armour plateYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, we can meditateYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, let's call it fateYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, to get your flowers pressedYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, just get undressedI'm so pleased that you believeNow open up a little let the good times inMmm we're going for a rideDestiny can't be deniedBut all those precious things are better left unsaidWhen you can give me head and run your fingers through my hairYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, we can meditateYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, let's call it fateYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, to get your flowers pressedYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could be the one, just get undressedLove...Is all you need.
― baaderonixx, Friday, 9 January 2009 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Julian M in the Quietus on the early Sisters
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
while any band that held its guitars below their nipples was immediately decried and denounced as “rockist” by the sad fools too afraid of the ‘gain’ setting on their amps.
umm was rockist term really in use back in the early 80s ?
― mark e, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Very much so. (The whole revival of it as a critical term this decade -- which I think was partially started here, really -- was referring back to its original use then.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Was it used solely to gauge the relative distance of items to nipples?
― test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
The early eighties were a strange time.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
How rockist are instruments perpendicular to nips?
http://www.sixtiescity.com/Media/merseybeat.jpg
― test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Best piece of writing on the Sisters I've ever seen, and I can totally endorse the comments on 'anti-rockism' in the early eighties.
Thanks for posting - a pint of snakebite and black for Mr. M!
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a great piece but doesn't alice/floorshow actually come after the reptile house ep?
― worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
According to this, no:
3. Alice b/w Floorshowa. 7" Merciful Release MR 015 Nov 1982ROGI:"kenny giles walks on water" "for spiggy-flash that ash"COVER ART SOURCE: Henri Matisse's Nude Blue in gold on black.NOTES: Produced by John Ashton of the Psychedelic Furs. Entered the Independent Chart at #26.PERSONNEL: SIS 14. Anaconda b/w Phantoma. 7" Merciful Release MR 019 Mar 1983ROGI: "nothing" "spiggy rides again"COVER ART SOURCE: Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies in silver on black.NOTES: Produced by Andrew Eldritch. Single of the Week in Sounds.PERSONNEL: SIS 15. Alice/Floorshow b/w Phantom/1969a. 12" Merciful Release MR 021 Mar 1983ROGI: "im westen nichts neues-jesus loves the sisters" "for spiggy(foreign field)" "mein irisch kind. wo weilest du?"COVER ART SOURCE: Same as the 7".NOTES: Alice, Floorshow and 1969 produced by John Ashton. Phantom produced by Andrew Eldritch. 1969 originally by the Stooges. Released in response to import copies of the American 12" showing up in the UK at greatly inflated prices. First part of the ROGI is the German title of Erich Maria Remarque's 'All Quiet on the Western Front'. Fourth part is lines 33-34 of T. S. Eliot's poem, 'the Wasteland'.PERSONNEL: SIS 16. the Reptile House E.P. Kiss the Carpet/Lights/Valentine/Fix/Burna. 12"EP Merciful Release MR 023 May 1983ROGI: "for spiggy-paint it black"COVER ART SOURCE: Taken from a National Geographic magazine.NOTES: Produced by Andrew Eldritch. First 5,000 came with a lyric sheet. Single of the Week in Sounds. Some copies are violet on crimson instead of pink on black. Not listed is Kiss the Carpet (reprise), which is the same as the drum intro to Kiss the Carpet that opens the ep. Original pressings have MR023 on the spine where 'made in england' is on the repressings.PERSONNEL: SIS 1
4. Anaconda b/w Phantoma. 7" Merciful Release MR 019 Mar 1983ROGI: "nothing" "spiggy rides again"COVER ART SOURCE: Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies in silver on black.NOTES: Produced by Andrew Eldritch. Single of the Week in Sounds.PERSONNEL: SIS 1
5. Alice/Floorshow b/w Phantom/1969a. 12" Merciful Release MR 021 Mar 1983ROGI: "im westen nichts neues-jesus loves the sisters" "for spiggy(foreign field)" "mein irisch kind. wo weilest du?"COVER ART SOURCE: Same as the 7".NOTES: Alice, Floorshow and 1969 produced by John Ashton. Phantom produced by Andrew Eldritch. 1969 originally by the Stooges. Released in response to import copies of the American 12" showing up in the UK at greatly inflated prices. First part of the ROGI is the German title of Erich Maria Remarque's 'All Quiet on the Western Front'. Fourth part is lines 33-34 of T. S. Eliot's poem, 'the Wasteland'.PERSONNEL: SIS 1
6. the Reptile House E.P. Kiss the Carpet/Lights/Valentine/Fix/Burna. 12"EP Merciful Release MR 023 May 1983ROGI: "for spiggy-paint it black"COVER ART SOURCE: Taken from a National Geographic magazine.NOTES: Produced by Andrew Eldritch. First 5,000 came with a lyric sheet. Single of the Week in Sounds. Some copies are violet on crimson instead of pink on black. Not listed is Kiss the Carpet (reprise), which is the same as the drum intro to Kiss the Carpet that opens the ep. Original pressings have MR023 on the spine where 'made in england' is on the repressings.PERSONNEL: SIS 1
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
man back in the day we always thought - my girlfriend and I, the secret SoM fanclub of Claremont - that Reptile House sounded so much cruder & earlier than the more accomplished-sounding Alice/Floorshow EP. weird.
― worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Reptile House was one of my first "what the fuck's wrong with my turntable?" records.
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
The Michigan militia Hutaree, whose members have been charged for an alleged plot to attack police, burns a U.N. flag in a video posted on the group's YouTube page. The clip dated June 30, 2009, and described as "UN in America," shows flames engulfing a U.N. flag in slow motion, over the sound of "First and Last and Always," by the 80s goth-rock band Sisters of Mercy.Hutaree members wielding assault rifles then hoist the group's own flag, emblazoned with a dagger and two pillars forming an "H," a pair of red spears, and "CCR," the acronym for Colonial Christian Republic.
The clip dated June 30, 2009, and described as "UN in America," shows flames engulfing a U.N. flag in slow motion, over the sound of "First and Last and Always," by the 80s goth-rock band Sisters of Mercy.
Hutaree members wielding assault rifles then hoist the group's own flag, emblazoned with a dagger and two pillars forming an "H," a pair of red spears, and "CCR," the acronym for Colonial Christian Republic.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Like I said on ILE, a following lost and blind indeed.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
should have used Vision Thing instead
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 29 March 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Eldritch will be stoked - he used to opine in interviews that Detroit was the best town in America because it most closely resembled Leeds
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 29 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Something like this was linked on Gawker or Wonkette recently. But the song in question was Marianne. I thought it was rather a strange choice.
― everything, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Let us attempt an exegesis:
"twenty-five whores in the room next door" = Steele and his creative use of RNC funds
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
But the song in question was Marianne. I thought it was rather a strange choice.
"No no, we meant the OTHER version."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
This is the Marianne one. First and Last and Always is on the same channel. And, uh, Poker Face.http://www.youtube.com/user/hutaree#p/u/3/Apmn9xMxiZ4
― everything, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
are flames eating the UN flag the new crying eagle? can we get a youtube of it set to the benny hill theme?
― akm, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh dear.
― Alex in NYC, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
man I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is a band who should have taken the advance for their first album, squirreled it away in offshore banks, fled the pursuing tentacles of their creditors without making FALAA, & gone down in history as a band with a 100% perfect track record
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 29 March 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4403460336_894957a38c.jpg
assault rifle just out of frame
― andrew m., Monday, 29 March 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought it was the Joanna Newsom album that one was supposed to hug.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 March 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
But then you'd be missing out on some great material. Besides the heroic failures of this band and the various offshoots are part of their greatness. Maybe you needed to experience them doing "He's Got The Whole World in His Hands" with the Patricia Morrison/Tony James line-up to appreciate that fully.
― everything, Monday, 29 March 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
lol andrew
― all-beef patty hearst (donna rouge), Monday, 29 March 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I still think Vision Thing is one of the greatest metal albums of all time.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, "1959" is a real `banger.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the thing that is totally 100% wrong about this stance is that we never would have gotten "This Corrosion"
― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
...except that's on Floodland.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
But then you'd be missing out on some great material. Besides the heroic failures of this band and the various offshoots are part of their greatness.
there's good stuff on both FALAA & Vision Thing for sure, but they were ironclad prior to that. Where are the weak tracks prior to that? the EP run is seamless, even the super-primitive "Adrenochrome" is pretty great. the albums bloats & they never tighten their game back up. they are sort of exhibit A if you want to make the case that success is dangerous. for a band who never quite achieves the greatness of their debut but keeps not-quite-living-up in ever more interesting ways, gimme the Gun Club every time.
and yeah I partied hard when "this corrosion" hit no doubt, it's a great jam, but I'd give it up to have a band who was perfect for two years and then stopped
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I wouldn't, because if the band is enjoying themselves and making money, that is more important than preserving my nostalgia
― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
even the super-primitive "Adrenochrome" is pretty great.
Hah that's probably my favourite early Sisters track! Pretty great, tsk.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
like, I wish The Cure had never recorded Wild Mood Swings but I would never, ever say I wish they just stopped recording, period
ditto with Prince and MPLSound/whatever the fuck that other terrible album was called
― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link
naw I wouldn't say that with the Cure at all though! with the SoM it's not nostalgia, it's how it kinda sucked to keep pretending they were still as good as they'd been just a year before - loved having such kickin good songs here & there, hated hearing a band that was filler-free have album filler and then play it live I'm lookin at you "a rock and a hard place"
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
actually tho from a more mature standpoint yeah I agree with "you guys are getting paid? go get yours, short man in sunglasses"
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
There was really nothing more disheartening than seeing The Cure play in 1997 and dancing half-heartedly to "Club America" and "Strange Attraction" and thinking, "wait, these are wretched, terrible songs and I'm only putting in effort to like them because Robert Smith wrote them".
Although I think that was the tour where they played "Like Cockatoos"? Which was fucking awesome so that made up for subjecting the audience to "Mint Car".
― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
*MUST* you mention "Mint Car"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
^_^
― yes, I must mention "Mint Car" (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Hahahah
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
OTM although the 1996 tour was one of their best tours - with some really wtf setlists.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link
This is true, great set design as well.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway, I'm really not buying J0hn D's argument - but maybe that's because I came to them later in the game. I guess there's a whoel thread's worth of discussion on this point, but not sure why I'd want a fantastic band stop before they turning just very good (and that's not at all how feel about the Sisters). I guess for my generation a band like Curve would be a pretty good analogy.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
in the sense that they could have stopped after a run of flawless EPs, but for what exactly? some abstract track record?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
GAH! You're right. I will wear all white today in penance.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Agreed, it's arguably their finest hour, for my money.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I will wear all white today in penance.
Tones on Alex.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
"Adrenochrome" is so not my favorite Sisters song
like, I'd ride for "Doctor Jeep" first
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
now, "Kiss the Carpet" OTOH is fucking choice slowburning menace from start to finish
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Although I think that was the tour where they played "Like Cockatoos"?
Saw this played live in 2004 and didn't have to sit/dance through a single Wild Mood Swings track to get there. ;-)
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Adrenochrome>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dr. Jeep
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought they played "Want" in 2004? (which is okay as it's one of the three/four songs on WMS that don't make me want to stab kittens)
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link
also guys I'm not trying to say "Doctor Jeep" is an essential part of the Sisters discography for me with that statement
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Miss youHiss youSTABCATS
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Dr. Jeep is probably the only track on Vision Thing I can stand to listen to in the least bit
― harry lame irl (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
xp - Swing Tour, I remember a pretty wtf transition from 'Strange Attraction' right into 'Cold' - wild swings indeed
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought they played "Want" in 2004?
Don't recall seeing it in the Curiosa setlists. Anyway, this was Houston:
plainsong, shake dog shake, the figurehead, alt.end, a night like this, the end of the world, charlotte sometimes, lovesong, us or them, siamese twins, closedown, like cockatoos, before three, from the edge of the deep green sea, one hundred years, disintegration,E1: pictures of you, lullaby, inbetween days, just like heaven, boys don't cry
Not bad, huh?
Dallas was nice, too.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND-f7OGrahw
^^ still amazing
― harry lame irl (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf Curtis, "More" and "Ribbons" are both great (especially "Ribbons")
also "Lights" > "Kiss the Carpet" and maybe I should have voted for it on that poll we just had
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah Curt1s - I think I feel the exact opposite about Dr Jeep. And "Ribbons" is easily in my top 5 Sisters songs
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess "Ribbons" is fine. "More" is good until the choir comes in.
― harry lame irl (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
haha relistening to Some Girls Wander By Mistake is giving me some sympathy towards J0hn's original statement because for at least the first half it starts out awesome and just gets progressively awesomer up through at least "Valentine"
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
no one ask for my opinions on "This Corrosion" because they will only make you hate me
― harry lame irl (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I listen to "Phantom" on the regular tbh
oh wow I'm listening to "burn" for the first time this century...I fucking love this jam
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah so basically I think my issue with "early Sisters work is unimpeachable" is that, going through Some Girls..., you have a bunch of fucking amazing bomb-ass tracks right up to "The Damage Done", at which point the momentum grinds to a screeching halt and never comes back
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
like it says a lot for how strong "Heartland" and "Gimme Shelter" are that they can follow the monster behemoth that is the 12" of "Temple of Love" and still come across as strong and awesome
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah but "The Damage Done" is from their first ever single -- Some Girls is not chronologically ordered.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Sure, but that doesn't impact my general point, which is "you can't say their catalog is unimpeachable up until First and Last and Always because one of the first songs they ever released is actually fucking terrible"
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
The Damage Done is good!
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey now
― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
sure, ok - stumbled out the gate. but look at this. from "Anaconda" through "Walk Away," 2 & 1/2 years of singles without real b-sides: singles that stood on their own as complete works, mindblowing from-nowhere things with shitty promotional budgets so they'd just pop up, boom, there's another record by these guys, wow, what the fuck, love all these songs.
man to get (more) nostalgic we used to sit around and wonder what "Home of the Hitmen" sounded like because there was zero chance of ever hearing it.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man, I'd forgotten about "Detonation Boulevard" actually
I think this is a "Smiths first album" problem for me, where the manner in which the first album/single was recorded completely turns me off to the songs therein and I might like it a lot more if there were recordings that didn't sound like they were captured in the echo chamber created by sealing a gigantic ass to a screaming toilet
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
sealing a gigantic ass to a screaming toilet
I thought you liked Broken.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Broken had more feedback
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
You heard of Hatful of Hollow?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"More" is good until the choir comes in.
^^gospel
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Strenuously understated.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, and all of those (Peel session?) versions of the songs are much much much MUCH better.
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
they'd crop up on Peel between King Sunny Ade and Champion Doug Veitch or something, and it was like they had come to FUCKING KILL YOUR KIDS AND BURN YOUR FUCKING HOUSE DOWN. Those early EPs sounded terrifying at the time.
― ithappens, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link
btw "The Body Electric" does kill so my characterization of SGWBM wasn't entirely accurate
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
loving the scope of this thread
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
haha okay I can't really back up my hyperbolic "Doctor Jeep" comment so I will rescind that
it was fun while it lasted, though
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP dr. jeep
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I trust you all are familiar with the companion rarities compilation, "Some Boys Wander By Mistake"?
http://plan-9fromouterspace.blogspot.com/2009/08/sisters-of-mercy-some-boys-wander-by.html
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Most of that ended up on the reissues I think...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm browsing Dime and apparently there was a show the other night in the UK? Is Eldritch ever actually going to release anything?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link
No. He did an interview recently(? or maybe I just read it recently) where he basically said there was no point and they were quite happy to not do very much other than the odd tour. He gets enough money* from his back catalogue and a couple of festivals a year to pretty much sit around reading the rest of the time.
(*am I making it up or is he from a moneyed family and therefore has very little motivation to make any more? I'm sure I read or heard that somewhere but it might be nonsense)
― AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, seems to be a small 30th anniversary tour.
the website has the dates.
...and is still bright orange. reptile house and merciful release websites still hilariously "under construction".
― Edward Bax, Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
a while back i was listening to ~college radio~ and heard a version of Temple of Love that sounded like a studio outtake, where the singer bro chanted 'GOTH GOTH GOTH GOTH GOTH' instead of the actual lyrics to the song - does anyone know about this/where its from
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 9 May 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
Oh god, I know this. It's a cover version by... gah!
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXViPACn0Z4
...CREAMING JESUS!
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoHR7m2eiDU
They also did a thrash metal version of 'A Forest' too btw
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
haha thats it man! thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
I love the artwork for "A Forest" -- cartoon drawing of the band sitting on Robert Smith and beating him up.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 May 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
it pisses me off so much that Some Girls Wander By Mistake isn't on US Spotify, I need to hear some "Heartland"/"Alice"/orig "Temple of Love" right now
comforting myself with some "First and Last and Always"
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
Lucretia, my reflection, dance the ghost with me
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
we need a new sisters album now that MVB is out
― akm, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
question :
does anyone know if the cheapo boxset thats available of this bands catalogue uses the old masters, or the rhino remasters as their source ?
i.e
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-Album-Sisters-Mercy/dp/B0030HG3K6/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1403601856&sr=1-3&keywords=sisters+of+mercy
― mark e, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 09:39 (nine years ago) link
User reviews seem to indicate old masters were used
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 12:18 (nine years ago) link
yeah .. thats what i thought, but wanted to see if anyone knew for definite.
suspect i will be tracking down the remasters.
― mark e, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link
there isn't anything really taht wrong with the original masters of these albums on cd from what I remember. first last and always was kind of murky but I suspect that's just the mix
― akm, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
only ever had that on cassette and that really sounded super swampy
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link
having recently picked up the bauhaus/fields of nephilm remastered editions, i kind of want to complete the set.
i have one of the SOM compilations, so will be checking it tonight, as i have not heard it in years.
― mark e, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
just to follow up on my own question.i picked up the remasters yesterday as fopp had'em relatively cheap (a fiver each).they sound fantastic.when played against tracks off the comp, there is a noticeable sonic difference as you'd expect with remasters i.e. more bass, clearer etc.yes, its clear there were budget limitations on the debut so that still sounds relatively thin/murky as mentioned above, as the jump in production between that and floodland is immense.but it matters not as all three albums are hitting the spot perfectly.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link
Which are these remasters? Sorry if that's a silly question - I've not really paid any attention to the Sisters for years now. But I'd be interested in upgrading my dodgy, scratchy old vinyl editions.
― Duke, Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
the 2006 rhino remasters.came out a few years ago .. albums + b-sides.not the compilations.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
OMG there was an MFSL vinyl version of First/Last that came out in 2009
http://www.discogs.com/Sisters-Of-Mercy-First-And-Last-And-Always/release/2871095
so weird that none of the early EPs got the rhino treatment
― polyamanita (sleeve), Thursday, 26 June 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link
licensing issues ?
andrew is a f&cker.
literally.
and no, i do not mean figuratively.
i lived in ls6 87-91 and had a somewhat unexpected insight into the world of andrew and wayne that i would never have expected.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link
hence the reason i avoided the music for many years.
well, more fool me.
this stuff is f*cking brilliant.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link
You have to spill now, don't be a tease.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 26 June 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
sorry. i cant.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link
I don't think anybody would be shocked if they found out the band had a lot of/various kinds of sex and drugs.
― StanM, Friday, 27 June 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link
or were generally less than kind toward their fellow humans
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 27 June 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link
sure you can
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 27 June 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― guwop (crüt), Friday, 27 June 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
I need to echo this.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 June 2014 01:00 (nine years ago) link
shouts INCOMING! during, don't he
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 27 June 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link
lol
― guwop (crüt), Friday, 27 June 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
omg
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, 27 June 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
ok. it's a long time gone .. back in the early 90s i used to rent a room from a friend .. for a while he had a full on goth girlfriend who had two kids.young kids.one was fathered by andrew.the other wayne.apparently xmas was not an easy situation.
― mark e, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
mercy!
― guwop (crüt), Friday, 27 June 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
"Wayne."
"Andrew."
*silence, as dim Xmas carols play in another room*
"...so what are you calling the new album?"
"Children."
"Mmm."
*more silence*
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
were they...sisters?
xp
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 27 June 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
told you it was a good'un.
and genuine.
― mark e, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
amazing
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, 27 June 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
Mark can remember the free concert in Leeds city centre in '87 or possibly '88? I was just a nipper at the time it was a counter-event to the national front rally that used to go through the city centre every St Georges day. All I can remember is that New Model Army were playing there. It was the last time I can remember seeing an ocean of old school goths/punks as far as the eye can see in my memory.
― xelab, Friday, 27 June 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
Mark can remember the free concert in Leeds city centre in '87 or possibly '88?
new model army.
f*ck yes.
human pyramid.
immense.
― mark e, Friday, 27 June 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
It is so long ago I had forgotten about that, the memory has only just come back to me. jesus!
― xelab, Friday, 27 June 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
Well I can't get you that show but speaking of them and Leeds (and approaching Christmas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5kHAU_rMNA
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 June 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
get the new model army off this oustanding sisters of mercy thread. THIS IS A GOTH SAFE SPACE
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 28 June 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link
Been rocking "Lucretia" quite a lot lately.
― andrew m., Saturday, 28 June 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
been on a sisters o' mercy kick lately. adrenochrome is the best damn thing ever.
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 5 February 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link
Alice don't give it away...No
― Bee OK, Friday, 5 February 2016 06:01 (eight years ago) link
Of the really early stuff I think I probably play "Good Things" the most. They need to release those BBC sessions officially.
― early rejecter, Friday, 5 February 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
This is making me want to break my EWF mondo listening session and throw on Some Girls Wander By Mistake
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 5 February 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
I never leave the Sisters for long. Recently been revisiting the Reptile House EP and the Aloce 12".
Someone shared this on Facebook recently:
http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/misc/deardok.htm
Enemies of the Sisters: journalists, record companies, goths, Hussey :)
― Ad h (onimo), Friday, 5 February 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link
Yawn
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk7F07Q4EiA
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
whenever I see this revive I expect it to be because Eldritch is dead
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
Was just reading this interview with Jon Langford on his brief time in the band: http://clrvynt.com/jon-langford-interview/
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
I thought Eldritch was a pretty clean living dude? Like running marathons and eating kale and all.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
kale is the fruit of satan
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link
that interview is great!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 May 2017 01:31 (six years ago) link
Andrew Eldritch is Moving Back to Leeds
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 25 May 2017 03:51 (six years ago) link
like
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link
dud
― yesca, Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
Okay so last year there was this excellent, really great piece by Mark Andrews on the first years of the band, up to the release of "Alice," featuring interviews with Mr. Eldritch, Jon Langford, etc. Lengthy, detailed, essential
http://thequietus.com/articles/21215-sisters-of-mercy-leeds-andrew-eldritch-interview
The sequel just ran today -- interviews with Gary Marx, Wayne Hussey and Craig Adams, covering "Alice" up through "Temple of Love."
http://thequietus.com/articles/23082-sisters-of-mercy-interview-wayne-hussey-craig-adams-gary-marx
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
I loved the first part and enjoyed this part even more; gripped from start to finish. 1983 was also my entry point to the world of The Sisters.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
Awesome!!!
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
Enjoyed these. Now I'm reading interviews and came across this:
One time someone came to me and said there is a major scene in a film with these guys in a car driving down a boulevard with them singing one of your songs whilst that happens and I was, ‘well ok’ and I asked for the script and I thought that this is a fucking terrible film. It turned out that is was the scene in Wayne’s World where they are singing Bohemian Rhapsody and originally they wanted This Corrosion!But for me a bunch of American morons singing my song in a Japanese car is not an exact reflection of what the song was about!
lol, is this common knowledge?
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
Ha, that's new to me.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
i hit leeds in oct'86, so this era was over - sort of.the hangover from the band loomed heavy where ever you went.their influence over the city was palpable.hence why at the time AOC for me felt fresh and new with their go-go styled covers and hip hop/noise collision.however, both of these articles have been absolutely brilliant and kickstarted a revisit of their early days releases.'some girls wander by mistake' compiles a lot of the music mentioned - if only we could have a remastered edition.
― mark e, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
There is no way that Wayne's World story is accurate.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-oral-history-of-the-wayne-s-world-bohemian-rhapsody-scene-20151130
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
chatted to geoff t/aoc re the article as he clearly knew a lot of this gang.
i asked if he had ever visted the house :
"Nah, would never have dreamt of going to The House tbh...sounds all mythological in that piece (as does all of it) but it was in reality a 2-up 2 down back-to-back behind the Co-Op on Cardigan Road - both inhabitants were signing-on...it wasn't that enticing tbh.
I recall the era well though...I met Neil & Steve in 82....we played a debut gig in 83, so all the way along the early days the Sisters were the Leeds Indie band who'd been wherever before we had...paying live say, or getting a single paid for, studio sessions etc etc. It was a useful guide to have tbh...it indicated what was immediately possible. "
― mark e, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link
Seemed far-fetched, it's funny that he would say it though.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 1 September 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
http://media.rhino.com/press-release/sisters-mercy-some-girls-wander-mistake-boxed-set-available-september-1
(expanded but not remastered?)
― StanM, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
!!!
going to have to buy this to finally have a high quality adrenochrome on vinyl. what is "Alice" - 1993 Version like?
i am just going to pretend that wayne's world story is fact from now on. too good.
― stirmonster, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
Alice 1993 is slicker and also quite unnecessary imho.https://youtu.be/_WqThVvWcsk
― StanM, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
i don't have any way to listen just now but will take your word for it.
― stirmonster, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
And then there's
http://thequietus.com/articles/23123-nurse-with-wound-sisters-of-mercy-this-corrosion
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link
Haven't heard it, but there's also this: https://www.discogs.com/Andrew-Liles-First-Monster-Last-Monster-Always-Monster/release/6769332
― StanM, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
Amazing how an article still gets written every time someone puts a song through Paulstretch.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
otm
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
there's a normal speed part in there too, so it's not just Paulstretch
― StanM, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
FM&LM&AM: it's wrong but it's not bad either:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzt6DVW5pEM
― StanM, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
listened to 'temple of love' three times before breakfast this morning. did we ever sort out whether the 1983 or the 1992 version was best?
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Monday, 30 April 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link
I prefer the later version. I'm amazed how many people seem to prefer early Sisters in general but I don't know what the consensus is. If someone had described me both eras I'd think the earlier stuff would be better but after experiencing it all I think from Floodlands onward they are superior in every way. "Under The Gun" is fucking fantastic.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 12 October 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
Agree. Album-era Sisters > EP-era Sisters.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 12 October 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
Thirded, but I can totally see how early Sisters had more of an impact on the scene.
― Siegbran, Friday, 12 October 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link
can't imagine anyone rating Vision Thing THAT highly. But sure, First Last and Floodland are amazing.
― akm, Sunday, 14 October 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
I vastly prefer Vision Thing to First Last but Floodlands is their best by miles.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
Some Girls comp >>> Vision Thing
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 14 October 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
Gift by The Sisterhood is great too btw (other singer but most people don't notice)
― StanM, Sunday, 14 October 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
A Slight Case of Overbombing is my favorite Sisters release tbh.
― change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 14 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
Vision Thing is awful
― Duke, Sunday, 14 October 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
INCOMING
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 14 October 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
Some Girls Wander By Mistake > Floodland >>> FALAA = Vision Thing is how I break it down to an extent
I can't remember what the Sisterhood sounds like tbh
The first SoM I bought was the Temple of Love 1992 CD single when it came out (I was 15 then) and I still love it, unnecessary remix or not.
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 15 October 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link
Funny, mine’s the complete opposite:FALAA >>Floodland>Vision Thing=Some Girls
― Siegbran, Monday, 15 October 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link
Crazy. Colonel Poo OTM
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 15 October 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link
Yeah I'm with the good Col on this one although I'd put at least one arrow between some girls and floodland.
Gift probably between those two, although maybe equal with floodland - less identifiably 'songs' but bangers nonetheless.
Body Electric/Adrenochrome is still the most I've spent on a single record (inflation adjusted, and maybe even not).
― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Monday, 15 October 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
vision thing is dumb. has one good song. still wish they'd put out a new album.
― akm, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
I like pre-Album Sisters & Vision Thing better than the first two albums, which is like goth challops in extremis
― sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
fwiw the first summer I had a driver's license & car I drove around my stupid town blasting Vision Thing on cassette so
it was a 15 yr old Mazda 626 and the opposite of "Something Fast"
― sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
I like FALAA & Vision Thing, just not as much as Floodland & EP era
There were 3 remixed Vision Thing songs on the Temple of Love 1992 EP so I used to listen to those a lot as a teenager. Mostly Vision Thing (the song) iirc.
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
I remember being so disappointed and embarrassed when Vision Thing came out.
― Duke, Monday, 15 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
it doesn't sound like the previous 2 albums, so I can get why someone who loved those would be disappointed. Vision Thing definitely had the ... i don't know what to call it but a lot of albums had it in the late 80s aesthetic ... like it's definitely "of its time"
― sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link
Definitely of its time, but it still *sounds* great. The problem is that the songs are not really there (Doctor Jeep, Detonation Bd) or not as great as Andy seems to think they are (More). Still, Ribbons and I Was Wrong are classics.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 07:42 (five years ago) link
EP-era* > Ribbons > Floodland > FALAA > Rest of Vision Thing
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
Vision Thing reminds me of the Mission frankly, or the Cult. Too rock and roll for me, not enough goth.
― akm, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link
Goth bands get worse and worse is a p good rule of thumb.
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
at least Go Away White wasn't some butt rock album
― akm, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
turning and turning in a widening gyrethe cape dancer cannot hear the drum machinegoth falls apart; the center cannot holdmere guitar wankery is loosed upon the worldWayne Hussey is newly sober, touring everywherePulled over in a Subaru in GlendaleThe Murph gets a conviction, while the worstdo remixes for Cleopatra Records
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
"25 whores in the room next door25 floors and I need more"
Cringe from the very beginning
― Duke, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link
Shouldn’t there be a new record by now? Eldritch claimed he’d make one if Trump got elected.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link
I think he's proud enough of the catalog that he wouldn't want to fuck it up by making a new record. He's a smart enough guy to know the only way to make a new SoM record would be to figure out how to express the same sort of mood using more current sounds; to just fire up Doktor Avalanche and put the bass through the Boss chorus etc would sound pretty sad, there are hosts of nostalgic goth acts doing decent enough versions of that sound. But anything but "this sounds just like the Sisters of Mercy" would cause much of the old guard to wail and gnash its teeth. The omen of Chinese Democracy looms large for the geezers
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 18 October 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link
Lasy time I saw them, Eldritch was wearing a white ice hockey jersey, he does not seem to care much what old goths think, and he’s clearly a lot more self-aware of his strengths and weaknesses than Axl.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 18 October 2018 07:50 (five years ago) link
yeah and half of his setlists is made up of unrecorded "new" material. I think he just feels there's no financial incentive to go and make a record (when the tours apparently are enough to make a living)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 18 October 2018 09:38 (five years ago) link
I read an interview where he said he was never convinced that a song was completely finished. In the 80s the limitations in resources and tools meant he'd eventually put out something that was just good enough even though he wasn't completely satisfied.
Modern sound production means he can fuck around with new songs forever without releasing them and he intends to do just that.
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 18 October 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link
true true.
yeah but your quotes around "new" are otm - I went to setlist.fm and had a look at the '17 tour -- there was "Arms," and "Summer," and "Crash and Burn" - and none of these are really new, some have been kicking around since '97. I'd bet a dollar he's not really writing stuff except maybe as a lark now and again. I do bring my own baggage to the table here because it's difficult for me to understand people who don't wanna finish their stuff, even though I know a couple of people like that, but it's utterly mystifying to me. I mean everybody knows that work is never finished, just abandoned, but still.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 18 October 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
I guess it's procrastination yeah - I mean even a fullblown fiasco like Chinese Democracy can't be that much of a deterrent, Guns 'n Roses are still raking it in with their tours, it hasn't damaged their reputation at all.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 18 October 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link
Agreed. Pretty hard to fathom how one could "give up" like that on the most tangible aspect of an artistic career. But then again I suspect the main reasons are prosaically linked to business issues (eg paranoid distrust of labels, complications on songwriting credits for sacked band members). Shame cuz what I heard of the "new" songs seemed better than the stuff on Vision Thing.Also a shame that Eldritch, like Robert Smith, the proud luddite that he is, can't see the possibilities of independent digital music distribution.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 18 October 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
look, he does: their "upcoming gigs" page is some lyrics, digitally distributed http://www.thesistersofmercy.com/news/livenews.shtml
― My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 18 October 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
their t-shirt game is on point, anyway
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 October 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link
INCOMING― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, October 15, 2018 12:30 AM
It's my ambition to post this with the news of a new album before anyone else catches it. I will surely lose this contest.
Floodland> Vision Thing > First Last > Some Girls.
I understand some disappointment but I think Vision Thing is awesome. "Something Fast" is one of their best songs. "Ribbons" is great too but there's not a song I don't like on it.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 October 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
man that is madness.
Some Girls contains the following songs:
Temple of LoveAliceFloorshowHeartlandBody ElectricLights
culling just my faves from it to assert that neither Floodland, nor Vision Thing, nor FALAA have that many songs of such high quality. Like, FALAA may have 6 real good songs and a couple great ones but six as good as those six? nah man
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 19 October 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link
There are a few great songs on Some Girls but sorry to say I found it a chore sometimes, despite being stylistically closer to things I normally like than the 2nd and 3rd studio albums.
Maybe they should just release a compilation of the newer songs in their live performances but given that Eldritch was afraid of being tied down to definitive versions, those probably would become the definitive versions.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 October 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link
Does blow my mind that much of Floodland was recorded in Stockport.
― piscesx, Saturday, 20 October 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link
xxpost OTM
― An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 20 October 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link
getting into the sisters of mercy at the late age of 33
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link
You'll never catch up with the onslaught of new product.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link
one thing i've discovered is that i think i enjoy the eps and the albums on completely different wavelengths. which is why it's easy for me to say that floodland registered pretty immediately as a favorite even though when you hold it up against the reptile house ep, floodland seems to cower before its rotted shroud
my fave sisters tracks so far are "on the wire" and "bury me deep"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
I absolutely adored Floodland and "Ribbons" but my obsession with this band didn't crystalize until I heard "Alice" and their cover of "Gimme Shelter"
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
So many great Sisters B-sides. "Afterhours" is another B-side fave.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
The EPs and First and Last and Always are the best for me. Floodland is good but uneven and Vision Thing is... ehhh.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
Maybe it's because I heard the albums (and specifically Floodland) first, but the EPs have always sounded really thin and low-budget to me, almost like demos. I don't enjoy them at all.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
but the EPs have always sounded really thin and low-budget to me, almost like demos. I don't enjoy them at all.
that's because there were very cheaply recorded.
there are 2 excellent articles on tQ re the early days of the band that Ned linked to upthread.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link
I LOVE that thin-ness / low budget aspect. Reptile House's almost zero production just slays me.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
The very best song is a b-side because it is, of course, Adrenochrome.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
Adrenochrome just keeps getting better with age.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link
Those tQ articles are being turned into a book on Unbound (due September) and Trevor Ristow's book on the period up to the RAH show (Waiting For Another War) is an absolute blast.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link
It's that bit in Adrenochrome where it sounds like Keith Levene has turned up, slashed at his guitar for a couple of bars, then realised he's in the wrong room and leaves again while Marty Thau is leaving the knobs well alone because they got set at some point so they're still probably right.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
It's the 'huh' tossed in after "freedom".
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
Same. Plus the songs are just better imo.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
Nah. This is a band that was always striving for grandiosity. Working with Steinman was really the only choice. Bob Ezrin as a close #2.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
It's Eldritch at his greatest, because he hasn't yet become Von.
I love this song so much. I remember when you had to buy They Shall Not Pass, the CNT compilation, to get hold of it (which wasn't that much of a hardship since it had other good stuff on it including Pink Headed Bug) and then the low quality Body Electric bootlegs. I remember when I finally found an affordable copy - might have been as late as 86? - and even then it was SIXTY FUCKING POUNDS.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link
Nah, i'm afraid you are wrong. Eldritch might have beeen striving for that but Sisters Of Mercy mk 1 and 2 revelled in their lo fi delight. Early Sisters was way more than just Eldritch's vision.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
x post
brad i'm so proud
― eisimpleir (crüt), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
First time i saw them, Gary Marx was the star of the show. Eldtitch was second fiddle.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link
I remember when you had to buy They Shall Not Pass, the CNT compilation, to get hold of it
that is how i had it for many years. still never managed to get the 7".
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
Yeah, to a very large degree they're Gary Marx's band until he moves out of Leeds then they become Andrew's band.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
clearly this band is an absolute classic entry into the whole 'i prefer their earlier stuff' cliche.personally, i prefer the massive bombastic stuff as opposed to the lo-fi recordings, but thats cos i love a big widescreen production.that said, you cant deny the brilliance of some of the earlier material.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
i love both (up to and including floodland) but very much think of them as two distinct bands.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
That's absolutely where I am too. I love the Michael Bay aspects of the later era but some of the songs are unmemorable.
Despite this, I've got tickets for the 40th Anniversary show at the Roundhouse in September.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
As an aside, the first (goth) club i used to go to as a teenager refused to play any Sisters records as the DJ said the production was so bad (they were all about big widescreen productions). When "This Corrosion" came out they were all over it.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
but very much think of them as two distinct bands.
exactly.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
my obsession with this band didn't crystalize until I heard "Alice" and their cover of "Gimme Shelter"
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, April 22, 2021 8:34 AM (one hour ago)
omg ... those are so good ... what do you think about their cover of Hot Chocolate's "Emma"?
also lol at the goth club DJ -- Temple of Love is what I consider a Goth Club banger
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
Also a heads up for everyone that there's a radio sessions album coming out for Record Store Day that will presumably be mixed correctly and not have that massive jump in volume like Psychedelic Sessions used to on Heartland which was an absolute speaker killer.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
ahh ... but which version ?
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link
o.g. temple of love forever
― eisimpleir (crüt), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
I'm glad Steinman never got his hands on "Floorshow, "Body Electric", "Anaconda", "Heartland" or "Body and Soul". It kind of ruined "Temple of Love" and "Alice" when Andrew made them sound bigger in 92 and 93.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
"marian" is so good. turn it up man!
― eisimpleir (crüt), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link
thus proving my point re 'i prefer the earlier stuff' as i really love the '92 version
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
― mark e, Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:23 AM (two minutes ago)
any version tbh
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
It's like Louie Louie ... when Temple of Love starts playing, you gotta go now (and hit the floor)
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link
ha. very true.ooh to hear either version on a big club soundsystem again.i doubt i will ever get to be in the right place at the right time.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
Adrenochrome just keeps getting better with age.― stirmonster, Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:39 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― stirmonster, Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:39 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
that’s not what I’ve heard
― JoeStork, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
― eisimpleir (crüt), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
I do think one positive thing about the Q Anon cult is that it made me revisit Some Girls Wander By Mistake and the great joy those songs bring me
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link
it used to drive people crazy, particularly as Sisters were thee band of that scene at that time. If people requested them he'd play Jamaican Dancehall instead but he was such a great DJ and it was by far the best place in town so all the frustrated goths kept coming back. He was taken from us right at the start of the pandemic. :(
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link
Ha!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
???
please do elaborate.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
i generally think The Mission are piss poor but i would go see them for 6 mins and 40 seconds of Marian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pgjCWtMS4E
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
xp stirmonster -- see the Andrenochrome joke
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link
i know an older post-punk fan who went to see the sisters of mercy live and afterwards told me in earnest that there was so much fog he "couldn't see the drummer"
― eisimpleir (crüt), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
Since we were talking about books earlier I feel I must inform you all that Wayne's autobiog Salad Daze is one of the most Accidentally Partridge things I've ever read, especially
Physical education, or PE as we knew it, I only ever really liked football and cross-country running. I regularly came second in the school cross-country runs, beaten by Graham bloody McIntyre every time. And he also went out with Barbara Salter for a while, a girl on whom I had a huge crush for ages and who didn't even know I existed. Anyway, I became a rock star, what happened to Graham bloody McIntyre, eh?
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link
IT IS SO GOOD
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link
thought i had told this on ILM, but maybe not.i got to to see SoM in the 00's in Bristol for free.after 45 mins of their set i had literally not seen anything other than the top part of Andrews head.walked out and went home.most boring gig ever.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
latterday Sisters: sounds great in the clubearly Sisters: sounds great in the car
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
otm.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link
I am glad Brad understands the greatness. Now time to chase live bootlegs.
(Reading '91:
Crowd: "You fat bastard!" a la Carter USM
Eldritch: "...I don't think so.")
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:56 AM (forty-eight minutes ago)
THIS IS THE OTM OPINION BTW
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
last time I heard vision thing it was much better than it had seemed to me when it was new -- I remember buying it then and listening and thinking, well, I guess I've grown out of this band or something but these lyrics are nowhere near as clever as they used to be and this doesn't feel like much of an improvement on the last one. older ears more forgiving but I'm still with Team Early Years here; those records are special.
at exactly 3:38 of this clip there's a young fellow who looks incredibly familiar to me because I've been seeing his face in the mirror all my life. not the head banging guy at 3:37 though within a couple of years I would metamorphose into more that dude than the pensive goth dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL8vWgOIG7E
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link
I remember when you had to buy They Shall Not Pass, the CNT compilation, to get hold of it (which wasn't that much of a hardship since it had other good stuff on it including Pink Headed Bug)
Not heard their version of Pink Headed Bug! I guess that Jon Langford brought it into the band
― building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
re jon : well i never.
i mean, i knew of the connections, but not to this level :
https://clrvynt.com/jon-langford-interview/
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
if only i had got to leeds a couple of years earlier.i got there in oct'86, and the three johns were still a force to be reckoned with (SO SO good live), but the whole SoM thing had faded away.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link
Ha, great interview - thanks for the link! Also I think I got the wrong end of the stick about Pink Headed Bug, apols
― building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link
Yeah CNT was a Langford heavy label so this is 3 Johns version but the Langford/Sisters link is underrated
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
I love that in that interview Langford leans on Eldritch showing him b&w Doctor Who.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
mark e, i nearly moved to leeds in october '86 but followed love and went to glasgow instead. i wonder if i had if our paths would have crossed, perhaps at a 3 johns gig?
i did get to leeds a couple of years earlier though to visit my sister who was living there and saw SoM at leeds uni.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
first time i saw them was at their 'free johnnies with the three johnnies' gig that they put on for the AIDS charity in the basement of a leeds university bar.they were of course brilliant, and such sonic insanity made me become a fan for life.and then my memory is fazed as i may have seen them elsewhere prior to their final 3 gigs at the 'pub with no name' aka the duchess of york.but booze and excess etc.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
i.e. i think i went to see them at a venue on the outskirts of leeds, a ballroom type of venue.but i cant recall the name, or the reason why i was there.but i am pretty sure i was there.whereas their supposed three final gigs at the duchess i most certainly was.they were so so so good live.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
I want to say this was Hyde Park somewhere?
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Friday, 23 April 2021 07:13 (three years ago) link
actually, i think it was the Astoria (Harehills, and a very ballroom type of place), it could have been the gig that was recorded for Death Of Everythingin fact, i do remember going, cos i went with friends.
― mark e, Friday, 23 April 2021 07:57 (three years ago) link
Dylan sacked on stage on Saturday. Lots of speculation that the end is imminent, and they may not even see out the currently booked shows.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 25 September 2023 21:43 (seven months ago) link
source??
― c u (crüt), Monday, 25 September 2023 23:41 (seven months ago) link
read about the two Roundhouse gigs here - https://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=37
― StanM, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link
(specifically, starting on page 6 of the 22nd September show)
― StanM, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 00:08 (seven months ago) link
thanks!
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 00:56 (seven months ago) link
Dylan's not been seen since Saturday. Sunday & today (forum members are live posting during the Amsterdam show): Ben (guitar & vocals), Chris (nurse/keyboard/drum machine), Andrew (croaking)
― StanM, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 19:02 (seven months ago) link
Bauhaus::Sisters of MercyFrank Sinatra::Nancy Sinatra
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:41 (seven months ago) link
Uh, I think you’re going to need to expand a little on that analogy.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:47 (seven months ago) link
I thought it was pretty well self-contained.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:52 (seven months ago) link
So like, Bauhaus are the Sisters' dad, but the Sisters are more underrated and do great duets? Is Terri Nunn Lee Hazlewood?
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Wednesday, 27 September 2023 12:53 (seven months ago) link
Damn, now i really want to hear Frank Sinatra singing Bela Lugosi
― blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:23 (seven months ago) link
The Sisters had a fruitful collaboration with Jim Steinman, so maybe the analogy works?
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:12 (seven months ago) link
I want to be a part of it, undead undead
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:16 (seven months ago) link
Hahaha!
― blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:17 (seven months ago) link
I can imagine Andrew Eldritch singing "Some Velvet Morning" but only the Lee Hazlewood parts
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:32 (seven months ago) link