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So "Somebody That I Used To Know" has quietly wormed its way into both US and UK pop charts this week. I was a bit slow on the uptake but it pretty much destroys every time I hear it now. I envisage that'll be pretty much omnipresent hereafter especially with the less than subtle youtube viral cover. I imagine if you're Aussie you're pretty much as sick of him as we are of Adele. How's his other stuff?

danzig, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I heard this song on the local AAA station the other day and quite liked it.

Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I imagine if you're Aussie you're pretty much as sick of him

y

virtual gape machine (electricsound), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

y indeed. Though to be honest I wouldnt mind him so much if he *wasn't* so bloody ubiquitous. "Yr hearts a mess" is a neat song.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

goatse

the boy with the gorn at his side (Edward III), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is still incredible:

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 16 January 2012 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

the walk off the earth cover is shit tho

lifestyle porn (the kid), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I imagine if you're Aussie you're pretty much as sick of him as we are of Adele.

Adele spent 23 WEEKS at #1 on the albums chart, had the 4th and 5th best-selling singles of the year, and Someone Like You only got knocked off #1 after 7 weeks by.... the above Gotye single.

How's his other stuff?

It's good! He has two pre-major-label albums which are much more sample-collagey, and a remixed-by-others album which I've never heard, but doesn't include this Supermayer version of Hearts A Mess (sic) from his 2006 album:

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol xpost

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

most delayed xp ever surely.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 16 January 2012 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I opened a bunch of tabs then did some actual work for 2 hours ;_;

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like 'Somebody That I Used To Know' but am kind of surprised it's charting. Hasn't it been around ages?

The only other thing I'm familiar with is the Supermayer remix of 'Heart's A Mess' which is great but has never really spurred me to check out the original, or anything else by him.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh goddammit, here in Poland we're sick of this fucking thing! the song met sudden and abnormal popularity among some MOR/AAA ppl and recently got basically turned into a meme, rendering it unavoidable in the internet. there was a moment about 3 weeks ago when I suddenly realised it's EVERYWHERE around, posted either in an earnest manner or "ironically". ugh. and the song itself is painfully bland, chorus is the only worthwhile moment. dud/destroy.

V79, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

keep reading this as gotze and thinking 'how the fuck could anyone think he is a dud? german messi!'

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like "Somebody That I Used To Know" but I found it cynical in its eagerness-to-please everyone even before it became massive over here (which I predicted - but it was hardly a risky gamble).

It'll probably win the JJJ Hottest 100 for 2011 here, which is like the equivalent of being the song of the year for NME I guess.

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Supermayer remix of "Heart's a Mess" is all time though.

Also you don't need to hear the original. One of the clever things about the remix is how it neatly renders the original redundant.

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

the first few bars always seem promising and i tell myself that maybe it's not so bad after all but i really can't stand this song - even if it didn't remind me of sting, which it does

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 13:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah it does sound like the police. it's a good song, one of the few radio things I've heard lately that caught my ear. I can see getting sick of it.

akm, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like "Somebody That I Used To Know" but I found it cynical in its eagerness-to-please everyone

I think this is unfair, it's VERY flukey that it's hit so hard

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

plz don't be offended if u like this song (i like it too) but it strongly reminds me of cheryl cole's single w/ will.i.am

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think this is unfair, it's VERY flukey that it's hit so hard

I don't think it was a fluke at all! At least not in Australia.

In fact I basically said something to the effect of "I like this song in spite of the crushing sense of inevitability of its ultimate ubiquity etc." in my In Press review prior to its release. From about a minute in I was thinking "this will top JJJ Hottest 100 and probably the charts."

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 00:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Adele spent 23 WEEKS at #1 on the albums chart, had the 4th and 5th best-selling singles of the year

I didn't know who that was until ~2 weeks ago.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 01:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not a fluke that the album did better than his previous - the shift to grunty mgt and major M&D shows hope enough of that - but the song doesn't feel like a calculated attempt to take the Hottest 100 and the charts; it's a small progression from his previous pop-song-structureyness on Hearts and Learnalil, doesn't sonically code as anything I think of as H100 fodder (though tbh when I finally heard the Angus & Julia around April that suprised me too). Actually I think it's probably been done a favour by coming in the wake of Rolling In The Deep and Someone Like You - voice to the forefront*, big-emotion-coding but musically presenting restraint and tension, not ostentation...

It's a really really good song, too, which I guess makes the success surprise me to some degree - writing in a narrative twist that requires you to actually follow the song feels counter-aspirational. (Small and obvious though the twist is! But it does work v well on first listen, and make the writing stand out on clothes-shop radio.)

I admire your astuteness though!

* actually this is the biggest thing to hint at chart/H100 aspiration compared to his previous work, where the mosaicing of samples is obviously something he's cared more about than presenting as a singer performance- or performer-wise

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 01:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbf I was driving for about ten minutes last invasion day and was delighted enough to hear Crave You at around 85 that I cheerfully failed to learn anything else that placed all day, I'm not rly speaking from an informed position

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 01:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, there's something about its ornate-but-not-challenging chamber-pop feel which just immediately struck me as catnip for (what has always felt like) the default alterna-pop mindset of so many twenty-to-thirty-something middle class Australians. Without necessarily framing it in words I think listeners inevitably respond well to its negotiation of smallness and largeness, sweetness and spite, male and female; the, as you say, "counter-aspirational" narrative strategy.

"Cynical" is the wrong word for all of this - as if doing any of the above is bad! - but that immediate sense of inevitability was almost overwhelming and I had to swim against its current when I was trying to connect with the song.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

well he normally makes accessible cool dad music, even in the basics. as far as i can tell though, its adoption is in a similar vein to early beck - his music has only happened to coincide with the current pop zeitgeist or w/e, as opposed to being a "cynical" moneygrub.

It'll probably win the JJJ Hottest 100 for 2011 here, which is like the equivalent of being the song of the year for NME I guess.
qft

lifestyle porn (the kid), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, there's something about its ornate-but-not-challenging chamber-pop feel which just immediately struck me as catnip for (what has always felt like) the default alterna-pop mindset of so many twenty-to-thirty-something middle class Australians.

Hmm, interesting. I think I see where yr coming from, but I think it's unpredictable when one of these hits. Otherwise the first Peccadillo album would have gone platinum and Blow Up The Pokies would never have (been able to) happened! Abby Dobson and Dean Manning wouldn't be playing cafes and upstairs rooms of pubs separately. The second Frente album would have done better than the first, and the reunion EP would have sold 10,000, not 1,000.

as if doing any of the above is bad!

Yes, if it was all calculated and this level of success hoped for then I'm delighted for him.

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

personally i saw surprised to see it become so big a hit, but then i never would have expected the twerps to be australia's next big hope overseas either

virtual gape machine (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait there is actually an Australian band called The Twerps?

I was really surprised to open this thread and hear it was massive anywhere, I just thought of it as a one-off that was likely to slink into obscurity. But no I can totally see it appealing to that Feist demographic.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

indeed there is

bro-one (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Evidence! This is what I wrote for the local rag at the beginning of July:

GOTYE ft. KIMBRA
Somebody That I Used To Know
(Universal)

I’ll pay Gotye a backhanded compliment and say they’re increasingly resembling late 90s Radiohead, their emotional but unpredictable art-pop facilitating alt-rock dudes’ soul-searching with a surgeon’s precision. This makes me want to resent the inevitability with which their sighing, keening ramshackle break-up ode Somebody That I Used To Know is gonna scrape the top of the JJJ Hottest 100, but ultimately this is just undeniably pretty, ornate tearjerker chamber-pop.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 11:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is pretty cool:

Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oddly enough, I came across that on Alex in NYC's blog!

Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's way out of my usual wheelhouse, but I came across the "Somebody I used to Know" earworm and was pretty impressed. None of his other tunes really are quite as clever, but this guy Gotye really nailed this one. It's a great pop song.

It's probably a matter of days until this thing infects the US. It appears from this thread the earworm has already infected other regions.

earlnash, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 06:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't get the appeal of this at all. Lyrically mediocre and melodically blah.

Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 06:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I prefer "Easy Way Out" to the big hit.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 08:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

billstevejim, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 08:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Supermayer remix of "Heart's a Mess" is all time though.

Also you don't need to hear the original. One of the clever things about the remix is how it neatly renders the original redundant.

― Tim F, Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:26 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yah, everything you need to know about Gotye is that he rejected their remix.

Jedmond, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 08:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

First came across this via this video, which is pretty cool. The song's catchy, if a bit AOR

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 09:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

First came across this via this video, which is pretty cool.

― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:04 (1 hour ago)

did you come across it six posts up? ;)

This is pretty cool:

― Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Saturday, 21 January 2012 05:54 (3 days ago)

Yah, everything you need to know about Gotye is that he rejected their remix.

Rejected? It's on the iTunes single, on Total 10, and was promoed by the label that did a 7" in the UK - there was no physical single here.

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

After Gotye rejected it Supermayer leaked/dumped it (via Sherburne if I recall but I'm probably wrong there) - people loved it so they ended up properly releasing it.

Jedmond, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lah = http://phs.abstractdynamics.org/2008/06/got_gotye.html

Jedmond, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Goodyear is trying to be a star but I by jingo, I certainly don't mind if he does. He's a good bloke.

Dude makes good music. Not great, but good. It's a little bit too pedestrian to rise to a higher level (that song is very good but not earth shattering brilliant).

Born To Meat Pie (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 11:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

did you come across it six posts up? ;)

Ah sorry, I was on the train on my iphone so I didn't get to check each link. I think I prefer the guitar cover version.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

well if that's the case (cf sherburne blog - the comment on GWFA no longer exists), it was commissioned by the UK licensee, rejected by the UK licensee, and then approved by Gotye?

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 11:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg i kind of like this guy?

i think i'm getting really old.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

world domination continues - it's up to #58 in USA, going top 10 in the UK, and top 40 in ILM EOY poll.

danzig, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kimbra is next.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Where are the balearic disco/yacht pop remixes of this song? They must exist.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's okay but not in the Africa/Everywhere universe I was hoping for.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

even if it didn't remind me of sting, which it does

First thing I thought of as well.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

HOW CAN THIS STILL BE #1????

God

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

This song is creeping toward "Rolling in the Deep" levels of ubiquity. I noticed he was supposed to play this small club in Chicago, then it was bumped up to a medium theater, and now it's a big 5000 seater. And yet every time I hear it I think of "King of Pain."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's some David Guetta song in the charts now that starts off sounding like the Police as well. Is it "Titanium"? I can't remember. At any rate it's all very disturbing.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

i still don't mind it, but then i don't pay much attention to radio/tv and haven't really noticed its ubiquity. Quite nice to see a song actually sticking to number one for a change.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

and now it's a big 5000 seater.

And sold out, no less!

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

And yet every time I hear it I think of "King of Pain."

Yes, me too.

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

The song's #9 in the U.S., btw.

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i kinda like it.

for some reason tho the low-rent quotidian nature of the conflict in the lyrics really rubs me the wrong way, in context of the high-drama moodiness of the song, when this is like what pop songs are supposed to do?

plus his mouth is weird

goole, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I heard this song far too late. I like it but everyone is being really fucking irritating about it now so I guess I'll just leave it. sigh

owenf, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

his weird mouth intrigues me

owenf, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

In the '80s this song would have been "Love Plus One" or, I dunno, Bourgeois Tagg. Curious to see if he keeps the ball rolling. Someone told me his first album was more Beck/DJ Shadow-y.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Beck makes a lot of sense, mostly in that this album is all over the place wrt influences and styles. There's a p much straight up Hall & Oates type pop song and a weird electronica lounge song about playing with an at-home hi-fi system. There's a decent amount of stuff to love amidst the filler.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Every once in a while a pop song makes an impact on me, most often because it just sounds so strikingly different than anything else on the radio. Witness this track by Gotye: "Somebody" is haunting and minimalistic and poignant (I try and personalize the song and though I admit I cannot, I still feel empathy) and the dude even lets the gal give her side of the story. Pretty intense and a good video that fits the song as she literally leaves the painting that is his life. Is it possible that I need to get the album it came from? Can there be anything remotely close to this awesome on it?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, I got the album today, this morning, from My beloved..

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

strikingly different than anything else on the radio.

Yeah, at the moment this song is one, "Video Games" is another, and "Jar of Hearts" also. Minimalism cuts through, it seems. More of it.

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ these songs seem to appeal to a pretty wide age demographic too.

owenf, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've only heard the song on the local AAA station, so it didn't stand out as being crazy-different. But I think it must be getting spins on the Adult Top 40/Hot AC station here, too. Not yet on Rhythmic or Mainstream Top 40.

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Friday, 9 March 2012 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember how jarring it was to hear Kanye's "808s" stuff in rotation, too. Most radio stuff is so dense with information. It's nice to have some breathing room built in.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 March 2012 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I also heard the Police/Sting comparisons and am glad I wasn't alone. I think it's because of how he emotes the chorus a lot more intensely than the verses and it has a somewhat unique rhythm, which reminded me of the pseudo-reggae/Clash rhythms of the early Police stuff that stood out among the rest of the pop at the time.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Right, have heard the album

adqt

Mark G, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

aw, I was totally going to BLOW MINDS with my "Beck pastiche" analysis of this album and I see ppl have been talking about that for the past 4 months

;_;

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

also they were GREAT on SNL; the backup harmonies were so tight that on my first view I thought they were all pre-recorded (mostly because the camera work was all in close-ups and didn't show the other other three people singing)

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Police, "King of pain"

Also, "Angel eyes" Roxy Music.

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp yeah granted i've only ever seen them play one song (on a couple different shows now), but his entire backing band/live setup is really really good.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

quite honestly this dude and his backing band may be my favorite singers I've discovered this year

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

just watched both snl songs, it is in fact possible to sound really good on that show i guess.

i really like his singing too, ultimately i couldn't quite get into the album but i have absolutely no issue with this guy blowing up.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Same here. A lot of the album doesn't really work for me, but the songs I like I really like.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

my first listen to the album was basically "this isn't really hitting me, but I don't hate this"

listening to it now and it still doesn't hang together but it's more enjoyable than my first listen

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

dayo, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol what the hell

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

'some bobby that I used to know' is the punchline iirc

dayo, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

also they were GREAT on SNL; the backup harmonies were so tight that on my first view I thought they were all pre-recorded (mostly because the camera work was all in close-ups and didn't show the other other three people singing)

three? i only saw one of the other dudes singing backup, pretty sure there were some backing vocal tracks. like this one is obviously stuffed with pre-recorded vox:

it doesn't really bother me, just saying.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

the drummer was singing and so was the dude with the xylophone; the guitarist had a mic but I couldn't tell if he ever sang or not

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I read that the single was the guy singing on one note, and the melody was all manipulation.

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Same them live a week or two ago, and they were surprisingly solid. It's a seamless mix of live instruments and samplers, a bunch of pre-recorded stuff being triggered and manipulated, plus guys strumming and hitting things.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i enjoy the "band in little room" thing with everyone singing. not perfect but fun imo- for comparison
http://vimeo.com/39793881

a single goddamn marshmallow fucked me for LIFE (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

The SNL performance sounds pretty good, even given the crappy audio quality of the youtube clip I'm listening to.

(FWIW, I liked the solo Kimbra album from last year a whole lot. Not that I haven't said it before, but with Gotye hitting SNL with Kimbra, I thought I'd mention it again.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not that she particularly stole the show. Actually, he sounded a lot better. (Not that she should steal the show on his song, but again, she just sounded okay really.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

just watched both snl songs, it is in fact possible to sound really good on that show i guess.

haha I just wanted to go back to this because I am thinking back to the whole Lana Del Rey argument and going "JUSTIFIED!" to myself

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol yeah that was what i was thinking of (as the most recent example at least)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was too busy thinking of The Outfield and Lou Gramm to considering the Police when this guy was on SNL

da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's even that part when he goes "your looove"

da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol on my plane ride back home the other day i was sitting next to a woman with a young kid and when this video popped up on the tv screen she shielded it with her hand so the kid wouldn't see it

y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean kimbra's cute (so is gotye per my gf) but....

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I still think her album is good. Nyeh.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

she shielded it with her hand so the kid wouldn't see it

That video is about as scandalous as a Wendy's commercial.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gotye + Chaki:

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

is that really him

markers, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

now he's just somebody that we used to ban

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

rip

markers, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

you didn't have to gut me up

billstevejim, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

even Gotye is suspicious

good work some dude, b/s/j. *slow clap*

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i will never give this artist a chance because of his name

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

why?

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i assumed it was said like "gotcha" until SNL revealed it was pronounced like "gaultier"

da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxxpost tbf "your love" cops a police sound pretty shamelessly

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

i thought it was like "Goat-Yay"

billstevejim, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

goatse featuring kimbra

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

true re: police/outfield, i guess the lyrics just weren't pretentious enough for me to think of sting

da croupier, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

i figured it would be pronounced like "goiter" but without the "er"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I started a dumb thread once about the singer from The Outfield vs. Sting vs. someone else with that kind of voice (can't remember who, now).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, Colin Hay!
TS: Colin Hay (Men at Work) vs. Tony Lewis (The Outfield) vs. Sting (The Police)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

regret goiter gis

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's pronounced more or less like "goat-ee-yay," like Jean-Paul Gautier. Per Wiki:

Wouter "Wally" De Backer (born 21 May 1980), also known professionally by his stage name Gotye (pronounced /ˈɡɒti.eɪ/) is a Belgian-Australian multi-instrumental musician and singer-songwriter. The name "Gotye" is derived from "Gaultier", the French equivalent of "Wouter" ("Walter" in English).

So it's sort of this weird Anglo-French colloquial nickname or something. Wally to Walter to Wouter to the French equivalent of Wouter, or Gaultier.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

too many syllables

billstevejim, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

It looks like it should be pronounced "Goat-y" but I guess it kind of functions as a shibboleth for those who are hip to the Goatye phenomenon, whether they know how to pronounce it correctly.

o. nate, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol Gotye won the trivia nite that Chaki hosts every monday nite at a bar in SF:

(10:14:19 AM) chaki: So last night @ trivia this nerdy dude comes in and proceeds to answer every question right. I'm like who the fuck is this guy and we end up talking about old exotica records for hours. It turns out it's international pop star GOTYE. Dude knows his shit.

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I somehow did not hear this song until SNL, heh. Along with the Sting comparisons, its production reminds me of mid-80s Peter Gabriel, or even Mike & the Mechanics, ha.

A friend told me it reminds them of this. Wish I could find a clip of their studio version, but it's a decent example:

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha that's a pretty cool story! (xpost)

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

this song has apparently sold over half a million copies in this past week

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gotye-adjacent I guess - just realised one of his touring band members is Tim Shiel aka Faux Pas/Time Shield who does pretty, glitchy, sample-heavy electronica with throwbacks to proggy 70's jams and 80's funk and such.

Most of it is hit-or-miss but I really liked this from a few years ago - basically filled the magical space that Lindstrom vacated after WYGIGT.

Roz, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 09:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

i actually did give gotye a chance. i watched SNL on dvr last night and found it pretty good/charming

at first i didn't want to like him because he looks like the junkie musician dude i hate on Treme

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

just realised one of his touring band members is Tim Shiel aka Faux Pas/Time Shield

thats p rad!! so is chakis story

Lamp, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening to this...some real clever, tasteful old school studio sesssionman bass playing on this record

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

at first i didn't want to like him because he looks like the junkie musician dude i hate on Treme

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:20 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol @ this

some former lust object you've shamefully forgotten (some dude), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

album cover looks like art that they would have on the walls of a dentist office when i was a kid

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

That is so perfect and ridiculous. In the best way!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

such a good story

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

$10 says he lurks here

y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw cuet! chaki!

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtg chakster

arsenio and old ma$e (m bison), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

First Australian act to hit #1 in the U.S. since ... Savage Garden?

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Torn" didn't hit number one?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, and INXS only had one number one?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Torn never made it to the main Billboard Hot 100 because of those crazy rules involving the Airplay Chart.

MarkoP, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

That is a great piece, diligently digging into the data to draw some interesting conclusions.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah chris was telling me about the piece yesterday, very excited to dig into it now

lathe darkman (some dude), Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's pretty excellent

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm so used to reading opinion pieces that it's a real treat to see some proper, painstaking research.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i need to check for chris molanphy more often, that's great stuff

goole, Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dude's a statistical hero!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is why Dick Clark had to die.

♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Molanphy's the best.

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mentioned this to him the other day, and he was like "Already working on it!"

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

For the first time the top two songs are sung by two men whose voices repel me.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL at article, too

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chris is one of the handful of guys I know who read (a) read Paul Grein (b) read Paul Grein's column before glancing at the charts.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

too many reads

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's a good piece, but there's an alternative theory that chris didn't really explore: millenials are getting older and more interested in the kind of adult-pop boomers liked as they got older. I don't hear "alternative" here, I hear Don McLean & the Outfield. While he hints at it later in the piece, it's possible the songs are more pop songs that cross-over to the piddly remainder of alternative rock radio than vica versa.

admittedly my perspective is tainted by the fact that I think both these songs are barf.

da croupier, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure it isn't nostalgia talking when I claim "All That Money Wants" and "Peek a Boo" are more outré than anything coughed up by the late nineties modern rock chart.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jezebel article reads song correctly, lambastes song as if it did that by accident

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I imagine an Al Smith type pronouncing it GOI-TUH.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's kind of stupid that Jezebel felt the need to write a female rebuttal to Gotye's lyrics in "Someone" since that's what the 2nd verse of the fucking song

some dude, Saturday, 21 April 2012 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

is

some dude, Saturday, 21 April 2012 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chris is one of the handful of guys I know who read (a) read Paul Grein (b) read Paul Grein's column before glancing at the charts.

Wow, how have I never come across Paul Grein until now.

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Saturday, 21 April 2012 03:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's kind of stupid that Jezebel felt the need to write a female rebuttal to Gotye's lyrics in "Someone" since that's what the 2nd verse of the fucking song

Even worse was the "oh I knew about the rebuttal in the 2nd verse, honest" comment the author posted after other commenters politely pointed out that this was a remarkably thick article.

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Saturday, 21 April 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

some dude, Saturday, 21 April 2012 04:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Finally heard this on a Top 40 radio station, but it's a different mix than the original:

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

@ Gotye's US label

"This won't work on radio"
"Can we...make it sound more like late nineties Sting?"
"Jackpot!"

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 21 April 2012 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, how have I never come across Paul Grein until now.

Probably because he writes for Yahoo! and most of us don't usually turn there for quality writing about anything, much less music.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

this song sucks

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Probably because he writes for Yahoo! and most of us don't usually turn there for quality writing about anything, much less music.

For most of the eighties and nineties he wrote "Chart Beat" for Billboard though -- chart nonsense for non-sports nerds.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pre-Fred Bronson?

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

mais oui!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

this song sucks

rong

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is pretty good

some dude, Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

into it

arsenio and old ma$e (m bison), Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, that top 40 version is pretty lame.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

It sounds good between Katy Perry and "Starships," i.e. ear relief but no more.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

my top 40 station plays a remix too but it's even more dull than that one

teledyldonix, Sunday, 22 April 2012 03:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

For most of the eighties and nineties he wrote "Chart Beat" for Billboard though -- chart nonsense for non-sports nerds.

well that would have been precisely the time before i had regular access to Billboard, hence why i was unfamiliar with the name. i wasn't trying to knock him btw, his column seems good, just that i never expect to find anything of quality on Yahoo!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 22 April 2012 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

still keep reading this as "goyte"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 April 2012 05:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

good song anyways, not a favorite

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 April 2012 05:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Must've read Grein back when I was photocopying the Hot 100 at the library, but the name doesn't ring a bell. Not like Joel Whitburn (to whom I wrote a fan letter), at least.

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Sunday, 22 April 2012 09:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Younger (not entirely young) co-worker playing Somebody on repeat this morning.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 22 April 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

aww crap just developed InstaCrush because of that picture

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just glad for him that he got to #1 before the Glee cover version could get these first.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's something ironic about a song being so popular that they need to remix it to get it airplay on top 40 ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

a lot of pop stations are fine playing the original version, some aren't. same thing happened with "Somebody Like You" last year, some stations were so flummoxed by the idea of playing a quiet piano ballad that they used a garish dance mix instead.

Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, but clearly the song is massively popular, so ... people like it? Presumably the original version?

They didn't remix Kanye's "808s" stuff, did they?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

This "radio mix" is hilarious

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

"omg the percussion is too subtle, someone fire up Garageband STAT"

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

why would 808s & Heartbreak get remixed? these songs aren't 'rhythmic' enough for some pop stations, nobody's going to add a drum machine to a record that already has a drum machine to make it more radio-friendly

Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean i'm guessing the only stations choosing the Gotye or Adele remixes over the originals are the ones known as 'rhythmic top 40 stations'

Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I didn't think it was the lack of drum machine that made this a problem for top 40, but rather the lack of brisk tempo and a big beat. The Kanye stuff when it was on the radio was like this weird oasis of quiet and space floating interrupting all the usual stuff. They didn't artificially boost its tempo with a pre-fab backbeat.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

that Spin page won't show any photos or text for me, and I updated Firefox three days ago. sort it out Whiney

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

They didn't remix Kanye's "808s" stuff, did they?

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 23, 2012 9:16 AM Bookmark

why would 808s & Heartbreak get remixed? these songs aren't 'rhythmic' enough for some pop stations, nobody's going to add a drum machine to a record that already has a drum machine to make it more radio-friendly

― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, April 23, 2012 9:20 AM Bookmark

the rar/r&b station here played a remixed version of "Love Lockdown" with a backbeat

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 03:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

rap* although i guess these days .rar/r&b is a close enough approximation

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 03:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I didn't think it was the lack of drum machine that made this a problem for top 40, but rather the lack of brisk tempo and a big beat. The Kanye stuff when it was on the radio was like this weird oasis of quiet and space floating interrupting all the usual stuff. They didn't artificially boost its tempo with a pre-fab backbeat.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 23, 2012 12:22 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

"Heartless" sounded like a ton of other stuff already on the radio at the time, wasn't very quiet at all, and that was the only song off that record that was really big on radio. didn't know about the "Love Lockdown" remix Rev is talking about, though.

heard the Gotye remix on a pop station for the first time today, god that's terrible.

some dude, Thursday, 26 April 2012 01:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

actually ashamed I didn't think of this myself. Missed opportunities!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

goole, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

the first time i heard the song in passing i thought that was what that line was about

that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hearing him on SNL again reminded me: I ctrl+f-ed it and apparently I'm the only one here who thinks he sounds like Ozzy, especially in the chorus?

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 May 2012 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, Google is my friend. Apparently I'm not the only one on the whole of the internet to think this.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 May 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha, never would've occurred to me on my own but i can hear it

--niccimanewhore (some dude), Sunday, 27 May 2012 04:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think it might be specifically the doubling or reverb used on his voice on "Someone" that's probably similarly to the way Ozzy's voice was mixed circa Blizzard of Ozz

--niccimanewhore (some dude), Sunday, 27 May 2012 04:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh it's been bugging me for ages who he reminded me of. Ozzy is totally it.

owenf, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Shit. You guys are right. And now I'm pissed off, because I can't UNhear it.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha,

yeah. Will mention it to our Alice, with reference to "Changes", it's quite clear.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha ha, that Ozzy thing is great. Now the song is enjoyable!

calstars, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I'm almost senselessly drunk and "Somebody" seems really profound right now. Pretty sure I just bought it on iTunes.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 August 2013 07:08 (8 months ago) Permalink


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