ILM Albums Polls POLLED

Portishead takes this for me by some margin. I like a lot of these, though.

lol Streets

http://www.peakwaste.co.uk/images/ww/Picture1.jpg

can't see past the Streets here, whole list is a testimony to the enduring quality of genuine Art

Only ones I've heard are Big Boi and Miguel, both great (I'm assuming Piracy Funds Terrorism is different enough from Arular not to count?) so I'll sit this one out, but I hereby pledge to listen, at least halfway through, to whatever wins this poll.

kaputt > third > fever ray > miguel > knife > lcd > streets > mia > kanye > big boi

Oh and I streamed College Dropout last summer to see what the fuss was about, but I got bored and turned it off I think. Or got drunk and fell asleep.

portishead by a light-year

if lcd sstm win this i'm...jfc i don't even know

guess fever ray/the knife make it a bit less than a light-year tbf, and the big boi album was cool

If we'd held a poll for 2003, I imagine Speakerbox/The Love Below would've won. Or maybe Fever to Tell. Or Elephant? I dunno. 2003 was a pretty bountiful year.

The Knife or LCD for me. if i'm feeling nostalgic, The Streets would also get a look-in. none of these are particular favourites of mine.

a strangely isolated place surprise top 5 placement on back of hyperactive imago repping campaign xp

heh. seems like everyone has a "pet peeve" entry on this list of otherwise beloved albums.

my pet peeve entry is big boi. all other albums i have either loved or respected. my vote went to original pirate material though, with third a close second :3

I'd rep for that p hard too xp

mia > miguel > yeezy > lcd > protishead > knife > big boi > destroyer > fever ray > streets

Kish Kash might have won in 2003, but I could imagine it coming in just behind Speakerboxx/TLB.

Best here is Silent Shout followed by Original Pirate Material (yeah I said it).

Kish Kash very well could've won.

This is looney talk, but I may just run a 2003 poll at some point (in the distant future).

Original Pirate Material (yeah I said it)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6i7lp0HLJ1qj3qgbo1_500.gif

the knife barely over kanye

gonna throw this out there in a bid to cool tempers...scoring albums is for cocks

I suspect that Kish Kash might not win now though - a sound so perfect for 2003 that at the ten year mark it might seem quite unfashionable.

Or, Cox. xp

I still bang around to Kish Kash a couple times a year.

oh yeah it's awesome, that's me trying to sniff mood changes rather than pass judgment

Sure. And that's why doing a end-of-year poll so far removed from the actual year would basically be unpredictable. I'm intrigued, but not entirely sold on the idea (and I have Madonna coming up pretty soon). Someday, maybe.

Kaputt by a country mile

Miguel (!!)

Ye

Destroyer but then Silent Shout and Fever Ray.

the knife > portishead > miguel > fever ray > kanye > destroyer > m.i.a > big boi > lcd soundsystem

i've never heard original pirate material and don't think i'd like it.

silent shout > kaleidoscope dream > fever ray > the college dropout >>>>>>>>> arular > sir lucious left foot > third >>>>>>> original pirate material >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (x infinity, including pretty much everything else in the world) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kaputt

first four are classics.

arular and lucious are very fun.

third is very admirable but i never want to listen to it and is also the worst portishead album by some distance.

OPM might be better than that but it's been irredeemably sullied by everything skinner did afterwards (and for a lot of what he inspired). literally have no desire ever to listen to it again except maybe "weak become heroes".

kaputt is worthless horseshit and destroyer needs to be taken out back and put out of our misery.

o i forgot sound of silver. that goes between the streets and destroyer. just a very boring and unremarkable album.

didn't realise miguel was the first r&b winner!

Kaputt in a walk.

i like to think new amerykah was the actual winner of 2008 considering it beat everything in the half decade poll.

Fever Ray for me. Never heard of Miguel or Destroyer, all the others in the poll are okay, except for The Streets, which is corny and awful.

I think I've mentioned this before: I bought the Portishead album when it came out due to all the praise, but I was only able to listen to it twice, and it's been sitting on the shelf ever since. It was just so unrelentlessly bleak and grey that I couldn't force myself to play it again. So yeah, in theory it might be a perfect album, but only for someone who enjoys incredibly grim things, and that's not me.

Sir Lucious is the only one of them that I own and it's awesome so I voted for it. Never heard of Destroyer

silent shout was my favourite record of the 00s so that's a hands down vote for me

Best to worst:

Kanye
Fever Ray
Miguel
Knife
Portishead
Big Boi
M.I.A.
LCD Soundystem
Destroyer

None of these are terrible although I haven't the Streets one in full, never liked anything Mike Skinner's done. The top four are all classics.

Sir Luscious Leftfoot IMO.

Amazing to think the Streets made the count - inconceivable that something so Brit-centric could place so high today.

Before I clicked on the thread title I was about to say Let England Shake, easy, but then I remembered the whole Kaputt unpleasantness. My memory had obviously conducted a recount.

I'm still reeling from all that.

It was a transatlantic incident that threatened ILX's special relationship

Kaleidoscope Dream > Silent Shout > Arular > Third > Fever Ray >>> Sound of Silver > Sir Luscious Left Foot >>> Original Pirate Material >??>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being punched in the face >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaputt.

I still don't think I've actually heard College Dropout from start to finish.

Fever Ray - Fever Ray
Portishead - Third
LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
The Knife - Silent Shout

That's a hell of a run, right there. Don't know much about the rest of them.

If the 2011 poll had not been voted in by cloth-eared fools and Let England Shake had beaten Kaputt that might have taken my #1 vote, but I get more out of the Miguel album than anything else here by quite some distance. And I really like at least half of them.

iirc we claimed the moral victory for Let England Shake, either due to voting shenanigans or more first-place votes or just a very necessary deus ex machina

college dropout is actually really good matt

i keep seeing people who think i'm a kanye hater and i'm like no the only reason i hate on MBDTF is because i was a kanye FAN

Johnny Fever, pls update poll options to reflect moral victory. Thx.

I don't really like Kanye's voice, personality or on-record presence even when he's good so have never bothered to check out an entire album.

Destroyer is the only one of these I don't really love. It's between Sound of Silver and Third for me, it's a close call.

The only ones of these I can say I've really really enjoyed and played on several occasions are Big Boi, The Knife and The (LOL) Streets. The rest I've heard and enjoyed to differing extents, but I dunno.

Could go Kanye, could go M.I.a or big boi. Have to think on this.

I love LCD Soundsystem but never felt they released a consistently brilliant album in their career, Sound of Silver included. Always seems the highs are high and the lows are low with them.

Portishead by miles. Fuck the rest

I like Third and Fever Ray most of all but I voted Kaputt because I don't like whinging

It's not whingeing, it's the righteous fist of justice

I agree w you re: "Let England Shake" but every time I turn on the internet there's a "let's take him out back and"

Destroyer is the only one of these I don't really love. It's between Sound of Silver and Third for me, it's a close call.

― Kitchen Person, Friday, February 1, 2013 11:44 AM (1 hour ago)

Exactly how I feel. Sound of Silver hits so many of my sweet spots but Third is so high drama. The tours for both these records were two of my 00s highlights.

what is about destroyer particularly that everyone hates? is it the voice?

do all these people also hate roxy music and the psb?

kinda interesting that big boi was #1 here a few years ago and didn't even chart this year

obviously the album dropped really late and was pretty cruddy but still

You could always use this
ILx'ers Top Albums of 2003

xp I love PSBs and Roxy but I hate Prefab Sprout and that's what Kaputt sounds like.

I really dislike the Destroyer dude's voice, it reminds of some horrible slimy thing wheedling at me. The music has that awful cloying quality that you get from a lot of that sort of wide-eyed, brightly coloured post-Deserter's Songs North American indie. It feels plasticky but not in a good way. If it had just popped up at #9 I doubt I'd have cared but it beat the album I consider to be the best of the last five years at least, one whose emotional register Destroyer couldn't get anywhere near even if he wanted to.

If we'd held a poll for 2003, I imagine Speakerbox/The Love Below would've won. Or maybe Fever to Tell. Or Elephant? I dunno. 2003 was a pretty bountiful year.
Kish Kash would've won by a mile, based on the then ILM user base.

it's between Kaputt or Silent Shout

xxp I can see how you feel about Destroyer dude's voice is a big thing in how you feel about that record, but I think the production sounds a lot more like (and consciously tries to evoke) say Avalon-era Roxy more than recent US indie. But then I really like that record. Obv Bejar should be shot on Lex's command, though.

For me Portishead > The Knife > Destroyer > Fever Ray > Kanye > the rest.

what is about destroyer particularly that everyone hates? is it the voice?

do all these people also hate roxy music and the psb?

― monotony, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:25 (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's precisely because we like PSB and Roxy Music that we don't like Destroyer AFAIK.

yes, because it's not possible to like all three, is it.

also who is this "we"

I don't like Roxy Music either to be fair.

Peak-era PSBs are unique, no one who tries to sound like them is ever any good.

fair enough. I've never particularly heard a PSB influence in Kaputt, but there we go.

yes, because it's not possible to like all three, is it.

― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:18 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You know what I mean.

Actually I don't hate Kaputt, but it def wasn't better than LES. Never mind.

I like PSB, but I've never heard Roxy Music, so I don't know what this Kaputt is supposed to be like..? Is it like synth-pop?

Some shocking Roxy Music ignorance OTB

Tuomas, Kaputt sounds like Neil Tennant singing on extended pure-pop songs that some say are labyrinthine and confessional, others say tedious and self-obsessed.

The idea "The Streets = the British Chief Keef" just popped into my head

I know that's not really accurate but still, lol

xp Except Bejar doesn't sound at all like Tennant. This is where I need DJP's vocal-technique expertise to explain why.

I don't get any PSB comparison to Destroyer at all, DL is correct, "Kaputt" sounds like Prefab Sprout
I love Prefab Sprout and love Destroyer but Kaputt is not even my fifth favourite Destroyer record

I haven't listened to much Destroyer but iirc I'd peg him as Tennantesque

yeah never heard that either. I can see how people might think he sounds smarmy, something I don't think Tennant could ever be accused of, intonation and vocal styling aside.

I don't really hear the PSBs in Kaputt either.

You can't swing a cat in London without hitting a British Chief Keef, half yr technically limited lumpen grime or road rap MCs would lay claim to that. I mean not to the extent that anyone buys their records but still...

on the subject of sounding like the pet shop boys
i quite like the sound of arrows, who mirror their peak work pretty much

big boi really sticks out here, other than that these are all pretty much awesome (i know i listened to the streets once in lolcollege but have no memory of them. don't care tbh)

1 third
2 college dropout
3 kaputt
4 kaleidoscope dream
other 3 i like pretty equally

Tennant is who I hear and who Bejar appears to be drawing much of his influence from on Kaputt IMO. He might not have quite Tennant's range, but I don't think you have to be an expert on vocal-technique to hear it in his inflections. It appears to be a very deliberate aping of Tennant's laryngeal English style. Even that "Sounds, Smash Hits, Melody Maker, NME" line not only sounds like Tennant in terms of tone and accent, but it also parodies the meta-pop tradition that PSB were good at (not to mention Tennant's association with Smash Hits itself). I can't remember if he sang like this on previous records or not?

i would be down for a 2003 poll, amazing year for music. didn't trap muzik come out in 03? that's my number 1

Doing a 2003 poll now would feel wrong, these things need to be contemporary, not just because the voter demographic has changed markedly.

ha, welcome interstate managers <3

Lets do the 10th anniversary of 2003 poll!

Can we, uh, give it a month or so, though? I think a bunch of us will wanna relisten to a bunch of things, plus I think a good number of us (just me? ok.) might be suffering from a bit of poll exhaustion. Either way, participation may be greater if there's some time to get it together.

make it stop

if there isn't a lot of popular support for this, though, we may as well stop it.

Bejar has more bass in his voice than Tennant and phonates more, but there is a strong latter-era-PSB flavor to the way he is singing on "Chinatown"

I feel like I should vote for Kaputt just because it gets dumped on so much. I listened to "Blue Eyes" on the way home from work yesterday and it's still great!

Probably the album I've listened to the most on here is Arular.

Definitely a strong Al Stewart vibe with Destroyer.

Arular, but that's really a placeholder for the obviously-robbed Kala. In any case, it's the only one of the 10 that I really love. Like/respect many of the others.

xp Ok, maybe it's 50% Tennant and 50% something else that I can't stand. I think I resent this record exactly because it was pitched to me as PSBs + Avalon Roxy, which sounded fantastic, and then it wasn't that at all. But I'll stop dumping on it now.

I don't know what it is about the album that evokes this imagery but listening to Kaputt makes me think dude is singing to an audience of his stuffed animals

Kaputt makes me think dude is singing to an audience of his stuffed animals

This accounts for a lot of North American indie post-1998 or so anyway.

the rest is composed and played by the stuffed animals

Kaputt makes me think dude is singing to an audience of his stuffed animals

This accounts for a lot of North American indie post-1998 or so anyway.

― Matt DC, Friday, February 1, 2013 3:16 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't you mean ~childlike wonderment~, lol

and then they sent it to Pink Floyd

xp not much childlike wonderment with Kaputt FWIW, more enervated disillusion.

Silent Shout changed me.

i preferred you before

Third

In order of preference (top 5 was very, very difficult)

Portishead - Third
The Knife - Silent Shout
Fever Ray - Fever Ray
M.I.A. - Arular
Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot
Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream
LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
Kanye West - College Dropout
Destroyer - Kaputt
The Streets - Original Pirate Material

only the combined power of the knife and fever ray puts kaputt in third place, but in any other decade...

Dan Bejar sounds too drunk and tired to be filled with childlike wonderment.

The 'childlike wonderment' thing comes from a recent Stool Pigeon article about music journo cliches to mean 'sounds like animal collective'. Destroyer doesn't sound like Animal Collective. Neither does he sound drunk, apart from in a slightly uncomfortable avuncular way perhaps.

only the combined power of the knife and fever ray puts kaputt in third place, but in any other decade...

was counting on your vote :(

love: silent shout, third, fever ray, kaleidoscope dream

really like: sir lucious left foot, original pirate material (not that i've listened to it since like 2004)

'sok: sound of silver, arular (strongly prefer kala)

hate: kaputt ('let england shake' wuz robbed)

still have never heard: college dropout

who are these people who have never heard the college dropout?

I've heard "Jesus Walks."

ive heard he saves

I wish everyone could really ~hear~ Streethawk, Rubies, Your Blues et al., I mean, I know those people are in multitudes, those records are widely beloved, but when I read "ennh he sounds drunk" or something something I hate indie something something-- or even "Kaputt is the best album by the band Destroyer" for that matter-- it makes me feel like people are missing out on something so enriching and important, like you were born without a sense of smell or something but w/e. Anyway this is a great list of records

Only heard the singles.

I have heard all those Destroyers, and the songs Dan does with New Pornographers, and I still find his talent/style/whatever to not be to my liking. Often, it's actively offensive.

kaputt

Miguel is the only one I want to listen to right now, or at any point in the past year.

Sound Of Silver, ya can't be srs

Kaputt by leaps and bounds

I don't get Kaputt at all.

@ Johnny Fever I meant "~hear~" as in "enjoyed them as I and others do", not "have listened"
and it sucks that he offends you! I mean, that sucks!

Kaputt will win this in a landslide. Surely I'm not the only one who saw the options, went 'hm, tough one', read the thread and voted for Destroyer out of spite.

frederick b otm, but i voted for it because its the greatest album of the last 10 years, not to spite anyone

you know something, i feel like fever ray and the knife will vote-split, and kaputt on some days is my favorite album since the dawn of the new century. so i've changed my vote.

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Went for Sound of Silver because Silent Shout will win anyway.

Not Third?

despite some stuff competition kaputt will *probably* win ultimately...

*thinks*

yes yes, it will be kaputt

I forgot to ever listen to "Kaputt". Voted "Third".

I like Kaputt better than Let England Shake and I love PJ Harvey.
Going with Fever Ray here though. I couldn't get enough of that album and I never got tired of it. The videos were great too.

wonder what gradeski will vote for

voting Kaputt

THE KNIFE

Fever Ray is definitely my favorite of these. And I'm also a fan of PJ Harvey who liked Kaputt better than Let England Shake.

makes total sense that destroyer fans would be motivated by spite ;_;

I'm sorry but what the hell is PSB?

Arular, but if a choice was "none of the above" I'd have clicked it in a heartbeat. I dislike more of these than I leven sort of ike.

PSB we're making that green
People always say, "What the hell does that mean?"
P for the people who can't understand
How one homeboy became a man
S for the way we scream and shout
One by one I'm knocking you out
B for the way my DJ buttin'
Other MC's, man you ain't saying nothin'
Rocking on to the brink of dawn
I think Code Money, your time is on

Destroyer! (OK, how's life, don't need to know who they are--that quote lets me know i don't want or care to know)

Plus-Tech Squeeze Box

lol

lol how's life

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neil+tennant

Miguel is the only one Ive made it through all the way. Waaay bigger fan of the albums that were robbed (Kala, Nu Amerykah, LES)

That makes it sound like Kaleidoscope Dream, whicj I'm not...

..like I'm dissing Kaleidoscope Dream, which I'm not....

this fxxking phone

run it again next year with m b v amirite

Anyways: a credible opinion from someone who can't operate his telephone, you're welcome

xp lol otm

although beyonce looms, and guido von discohoffer is about to release something really banging

Lol I remember two weeks ago when I thought Dawn Richard was a shoe-in. How long ago that was!

oh yeah Pet Shop Boys duh...

fever ray/the knife vote-splitting will make this a travesty

Kish Kash would've won by a mile, based on the then ILM user base.

OTM.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=41&threadid=24285

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Kaputt is a lock.

yeah but a lot of votes are just to annoy the Kaputt haters!

voted for Kaputt. Why? Great Art always wins.

Our works in stone, in paint, in print, are spared, some of them, for a few decades or a millennium or two, but everything must finally fall in war, or wear away into the ultimate and universal ash - the triumphs, the frauds, the treasures and the fakes. A fact of life: we're going to die. "Be of good heart," cry the dead artists out of the living past. "Our songs will all be silenced. Except for Kaputt by Destoyer, in all likelihood."

God willing.

destroyer and fever ray only two w/ grayscaled album art

http://i.imgur.com/yFUlFBn.jpg

gorgeous

I'm a destroyer stan as much as the next guy but come on, rubies / your blues / streethawk >>> kaputt

i'd reverse that: ttupak >>> kwahteerts \ seulb ruoy \ seibur

I kind of get the impression it's not longtime Destroyer stans who are most in love with Kaputt xp

it's very true that the love for this album is more "universal" than it is strictly "niche"

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like album-title, like messageboard

fuckin kaputt

http://i.imgur.com/UVuqVbc.jpg

das auto
das auto
das auto ist kaput

Was kinda expecting Third to take this for some reason.

you all disgust me

hip hop lagging behind

Hey, Infinite Sense Of Value...
Hey, Mystic Prince Of The Purlieu At Night!
I heard your record, it's alright...

So ilxor really loves Kaputt then,

unsurprisingly this was a very convincing victory

This is partly about audience splits I think - I'm betting that a large segment of voters were split not just between Silent Shout and Fever Ray but also those and Third, whereas as a general rule I suspect the kind of voter who would put Kaputt first was not troubled by the lure of any other option.

the famed "silent shout majority" as it were

on the other hand there are also possible errors in voting, in which some people may not have actually seen kaputt listed on the ballot.

or accidentally checked off 'the streets' and voted and then immediately cursed, realizing their error.

Streethawk, then Kaputt, then Rubies, Your Blues a distant 4th

never been curious to hear kaputt, maybe I will now

What! Lol. Ridiculous. Kaputt is 2000+late

voted for Kaputt. Why? Great Art always wins.*

― administrator galina (Matt P)

*emphasis mine

hot_dengue_fever imo

FTR I think "Kaputt" is a great album but this poll is really about ILM taste factions not greatness.

Oh this is great. Kaputt beat Fever Ray and Silent Shout combined. Haha. Probably a few spite-voters, then.

Btw I just heard about this book about life behind german lines in WW2 called Kaputt. Do you guys think the name of the record has anything to do with that? It would really bring something to the record, I think, this sense of the living in this world gone completely wrong.

hey guys I got this idea, and hear me out because I know there's gonna be some reactions from the tumblrsphere, but do you know what we gotta poll now? Destroyer vs. Weird Al Yankovic.

ok

xp Yes, Frederik, the Malaparte novel is where the Destroyer alb title comes from

Thanks. Never knew that. Intriguing.

Maybe some people voted for it higher than they truly rate it in order to make a point.

detrimental to the legitimacy of the entire list

lol

just under two years to go before we get to vote Kaputt #1 album 2010 - 2014.

can't wait.

College Dropout got done dirty imo

Don't be ashamed or disgusted with yourselves

I would like to call for an investigation.

9.2 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
9.2 - Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot
8.8 - Destroyer - Kaputt
8.8 - Portishead - Third
8.6 - The Knife - Silent Shout
8.6 - M.I.A. - Arular
8.4 - Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream
8.2 - Kanye West - College Dropout
8.1 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray
7.9 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material

the kind of voter who would put Kaputt first was not troubled by the lure of any other option.

― Tim F, Thursday, February 7, 2013 12:37 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

given their ears of cloth, entirely plausible

I only heard one of these all the way through and it' was terrible

(it wasn't destroyer)

don't be coy

think we probably should run this vote on a weekly basis really. we're just not finding a clear mean accuracy as regards our views on albums of the last decade.

Separate up-or-down polls on each of the albums should give us more visibility into what's going on "in there". Weekly, I agree.

might change my vote to kanye next week

if this poll were re-taken next week i'd pick Kaputt

plus it'd be nice if everyone could win even if only for one week xpost

each album should be polled against each of the others one at a time, twice, football league style.

we should all make shirts and flags to support the albums we are backing each week.

that would be 90 more polls in total i think xp

i want a silent shout/third half-and-half scarf

we could have former musicians live chatting about the polls as they happen, and watching individual polls, reporting the action to the fans.

Bottom two finishers get relegated and replaced by two records from the rymans metal poll league

it all sounds amazing.

all sounds like a dream to me

only way to settle this thing. i don't think destroyer travelling up to meet big boi on a wintery sunday afternoon is an easy fixture in anyone's book

voted kaputt for a laugh. paid in full.

throwing this out there, would there be any interest in a favourite poll of 2012 poll?

i'd need about 50 votes to make it worth doing

What the fuck is this shit. What the shit