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43 Ballots114 Songs
Counting down the Top 60.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Live Tracks
This was a silly idea, and very few people actually submitted anything, although two tracks got two votes so I'll post those last. Many songs were from From Here to Eternity so I'll skip those and just post a few others that are available on Youtube.
Amazingly, nobody voted for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhv2lhGZsNU
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
"The Street Parade" - Bonds Casino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMR_ae14Pg4
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
Great thread title!
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 July 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
"Capital Radio" - Manchester '77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4VPkYzc1nE
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
Clampdown - Official Live Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ82BX0hGBM
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
Somebody Got Murdered - Japp Edenhall, Amsterdam 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8XziO7L78I
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
The "Clampdown" video has two of my favorite Clash moments: the run-up to the mikes, and Topper "in the engine room."
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
And now, the two that got multiple (i.e. two) votes!
"The Magnificent Seven" - Tom Snyder Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_DPKWGH9yc
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
"Complete Control" - From Here to Eternity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeTw_p_WglY
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
Ok I'll be back in about 15 minutes with the albums and then we can get this show on the road.
cool, that'll give me time to change into my poll fedora
http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/ap/65910b9c-6624-4275-be61-e3d2da01ab52.grid-6x2.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
That live "Street Parade" is great. I love how the Sandinista! material sped up ridiculously in concert.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
Albums
This was optional, so not everybody voted, but it's a bit wonkier than usual as some people only voted for one or two albums and others ordered all 8. I assigned points going down anyway, but if people didn't put an album on their list, it got no points. Unscientific, sure, but maybe this is a poll about enthusiasm anyway.
Cut the Crap - 7 pts
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091101152922/lyricwiki/images/c/cf/The_Clash_-_Cut_The_Crap.jpg
(d'oh)
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link
too high
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
(d'oh at CtC getting 7 whole points, or not getting more?)
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 July 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
d'oh for me submitting the post without adding the image. Somebody recommended a live track from the 1984 Glasgow show that I couldn't find the individual songs for, but I listened to some of it and the songs do sound a lot better without Bernie's studio trickery.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
I didn't even consider that this would be eligible but two people voted for it anyway. And it still beat Cut the Crap
8. From Here to Eternity - 8 pts
http://image.lyricspond.com/image/t/artist-the-clash/album-from-here-to-eternity-live/cd-cover.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
Wow, I never realised just how much the Manics were cribbing 'til I saw that vid for Complete Control
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
Dammit, forgot to vote in this poll.
Write in vote for 'Lost at the supermarket' as my numero uno followed by magnificent seven and bank robber.
― Moka, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
7. Super Black Market Clash - 88 pts
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/83597747/Super+Black+Market+Clash+BSides+Collection+SuperBlackMarketClashalbumcove.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
ok i have to run an impromptu errand so i'll be back with the rest of the albums in a bit.
Combat Rock wins, right?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 July 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
Big Audio Dynamite shockah
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
Been listening a lot to Combat Rock and Super Black Market Clash lately.
What a weird fuckin' band they were.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
Combat Rock is certainly the oddest "sellout" album ever recorded.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
i don't know much about that album...was there a sense that its success was deliberate and planned, or was it kind of a 'right songs at the right time, no double/triple album to scare off casual fans' thing?
― king of steens (some dude), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
how was it a sellout album?
― fit and working again, Monday, 15 July 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
London Calling and Sandinista sold modestly but of course generated massive cred, print magazine discussion (back when this meant something), and critical acclaim, so I guess there were set to capitalize. I AM surprised the album went top ten, double platinum, lingered in the chart a year, etc. It reminds me a bit of Speaking in Tongues' trajectory.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
― fit and working again, Monday,
I've read carping in the British and American press. I forget which eighties punk band included a lyric about destroying any band that would release a Combat Rock (Rob Sheffield quotes it fully in his Clash entry for the SPIN book).
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
I always thought the only "sellout" aspect was that it was released as a single record rather than the double they'd recorded. But that may have been more to do with internal bickering; the rest of the band didn't like Jones' mixes, so everyone agreed to hand the mixing (and possibly track choice/sequencing) over to a neutral 3rd party (Glyn Johns).
"Should I Stay" sounds more obviously radio-friendly than anything else on the record, but it didn't even hit the top 40 (whereas "Casbah" topped out at #8).
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
There were serious-minded punks (including Johnny Ramone) who hated all the funk and dub stuff. I remember Johnny calling it a disco record.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
went #1 in England in the early nineties too..as a jeans advert, nO?
xpost
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
Yep, with "Rush" by B.A.D II as the b-side!
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
rush for a change of atmospheeeeeewhereeeehuwheeereeeughwweeeeerrreeeeeeee
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
Should I Stay was playing in the sandwich shop the other day and 50% of the people in there were tapping their feet to it. Which made me like, wow this is a really well-liked song by lots of non-Clash-liking people...and simultaneously thinking that it's a really fucking annoying song
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
come sit by me
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
Chart successionPreceded by"Do the Bartman" by The SimpsonsUK number-one single 9 - 16 March 1991 (2 weeks)Succeeded by"The Stonk" by Hale and Pace
UK number-one single 9 - 16 March 1991 (2 weeks)
Succeeded by"The Stonk" by Hale and Pace
― fit and working again, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i fully expect to see a lot of 'should i stay' hate in this poll -- i'm pretty indifferent to it personally. hoping not to see any hate for 'rock the casbah' which is awesome.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
They're both wonderful, but Rock The Casbah is better by miles.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
Alfred: Are you thinking of Too Much Joy ("Any great band should be shot / before they make their Combat Rock")?
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
btw if you want to compare US vs UK reactions to the Clash, check out the comments in Tom's Popular entry for "Should I Stay"
http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2011/03/the-clash-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go/?cp=0
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
"Should I Stay" is garage-rock royalty, but I'll wait for it to show up to mount a proper defense.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
Didn't vote for it, but I like it. I am a little surprised that there were Clash fans at the time that didn't hear it as a fun piss-take.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
I remember being indignant at the time that it was getting much more radio attention than the far superior Straight to Hell on a AA side, and even made me (very briefly) a bit anti-Mick. But I like it fine these days.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w50RblItq4E
Combat Rock is awesome. Nothing wrong with that record. And it's not like the alternate "Rat Patrol from Fort Bragg" version reveals some crazy alternate "Combat Rock" universe. Basically more of the same. Also good.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
There was talk last year about releasing a 30th anniversary Combat Rock with the original Rat Patrol mixes/tracks/running order. Supposedly the reason it got nixed was that Mick felt it would be wrong to release something Joe disliked at the time and wasn't around to approve/disapprove.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH_kgfDyRPg
Etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
alright, sorry for the delay.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
6. Give 'Em Enough Rope - 93pts
http://www.musicshop.com.au/media/catalog/product/4/9/4962462_3.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
wow. that's terrible. guess I should be thankful it beat out Super Black Market Clash but damn!
― g simmel, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
and probably only because of my number one vote
― g simmel, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
Absurd!!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
I should say I just assigned points from 8-1 on these.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
then yeah, I saved Give 'Em Enough Rope from total humiliation. still, this is some extreme revisionism
― g simmel, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
5. The Clash (UK Version) - 104 pts
http://24.media.tumblr.com/5f7ec67511c4ce13bd112b5f00e9e8a7/tumblr_mofb3vpFXG1soyk8ho1_500.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
I like this album, but with the glorious exception of "Stay Free," the back half is pretty weak. At least by their standards.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
Whoops, that was about Rope.
I ranked Rope #5 out of 5 on my ballot. I like it fine, but I was never able to connect with it as much as their other records.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
i voted for all of the second half of rope in the trax, so i'm gonna just say i disagree that the back half is pretty weak
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
no 4 out of 5 i guess
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
4. Combat Rock - 107 pts
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5xktxUiVR1r19b3po1_500.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
Rope was my number one. it's one of the greats for me. love that Greil Marcus review that links it with Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed and Never Mind the Bollocks. the great "defeated" albums I would call them (all four of those in my top 10-20 all time), and The Clash were the only ones who were actually fighting in the first place. anyway, the U.K. version of the debut is their "fighting" album and it's glorious. it was number two on my list.
― g simmel, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
I've never warmed to Rope outside of a few tracks.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
yeah it's not my favorite
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
I love Rope, so many bangin' tracks
3. The Clash (US Version) - 133 pts
http://image.lyricspond.com/image/t/artist-the-clash/album-the-clash-us-version/cd-cover.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
Alright, here's the top 2.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
i had a feeling it would be the top 2 now
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
Oh weird, I thought US version might win.
Now I think it's Sandanista.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
Sandinista is their best record so I'd be cool with that.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
2. Sandinista! - 168 pts
http://images.gibson.com/Lifestyle/English/aaFeaturesImages2010/clash_sandinista.jpg
1. London Calling - 196 pts
http://www.abortmag.com/abortpegs/lcalling.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
boo!
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
sandinista coming 2nd is ilm enough w/out straying into self-parody
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
tbf London Calling does have a buttload* of good songs.
*within +/- 3 butts.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
Sandanista and the US s/t were tied for the most number one votes, but London Calling had soo many #2 votes.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
Totally fair. Everyone (myself included) thinks London Calling is a good record. It's just not their best.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
i can appreciate the wackiness of "sandinista" but its 3/4 shite tbh
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
If you said 1/4, I'd let it lie...
― Mark G, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
I would've voted for something other than London Calling at no.1, were it not complete insanity to do so
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
I even rep for most of the weirdo-dub shit. "Silicone on Sapphire" is awes.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
I think you either accept the kitchen sink nature of Sandinista or it drives you batty. I find it's more than the sum of it's parts, and when you take it apart for something like a tracks poll a lot of those parts seem a little daft.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
Because of my misadventures at the impound lot today, I'm running behind schedule, so #60-41 are going to come faster than I'd like. I'll slow it down tomorrow.
A note on ranking: A number of people combined o.g. versions with their dub counterpart, so I combined certain tracks with their other version at my subjective discretion. I did not count different versions (a la Sandinista "Career Opportunities") in the tally for their o.g. As we go through I'll try to list the breakdown if I combined tracks. If you don't like it, well too bad, because The Clash ain't about RULES, maan.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
Also apologies for the images. Never done them before and I just now realised I made them too big so I'll scale them down but they'll look (even!) worse.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
60. Hate and War - 96 pts - 6 votes
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1700/3ebx.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
leave them HUGE! The Clash deserve big fuckoff pictures.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
The ska "hate hate hate hate" only one part of all-amazing.
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 15 July 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
58. (TIE) Car Jamming - 104 pts - 7 votes
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4278/dxbz.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
"Car Jamming" placing makes me happy even though it missed my ballot.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
"Car Jamming" the best song on Combat Rock after "Straight to Hell."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
agreed
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
"selling is what selling sells but only saints of the seven avenues can sell the seven hells" is one of my favourite lyrics
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
i struggled with leaving car jamming off my ballot, am glad my comrades could make it happen
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
he fellllass
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
58. (TIE) Pressure Drop - 104 pts - 10 votes
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5433/0lqu.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
"car jamming" was the first clash song i really dug outside of the hits
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
it's not a GOOD cover, but the guitar is so addictive I can't help but love it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
Ghetto Defendant - 106 pts - 10 votes
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4670/z9jb.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
should have said 57.Ghetto Defendant - 106 pts - 10 votes
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
Not much to say about old Allen there
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
56. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - 111 pts - 10 votes
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/5585/s3cg.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
My vote. I vacillate b/w thinking it's one of their best songs and disappointment at its lack of vim. Maybe Jones and Strummer sharing vocals is the problem?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
I didn't realise that song had a Phil Ochs quote.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
Yeah they don't *quite* match up together, which is a shame because the melody is great. I get a good Killers vibe off the guitar riff :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
55. Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad - 113 pts - 11 votes
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7775/ahoe.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
YEAH! love this track
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
Should note for legal purposes that even though that is Leif Fielding in the centre there, the girl is probably not Julie.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
My first to place!
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
54. Jail Guitar Doors - 122 pts - 11 votes
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/227/0v7i.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
I love the honky-tonk swing of Julie -- and the piano <3
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
53. Capital Radio - 124 pts - 7 votes
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/308/gi0r.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
"Capital Radio" got 50 pts, "Capital Radio Two" got 74 pts. I combined them because afaik they re-recorded it and released it because people were spending a lot of money to get the oop original version.
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
Two wins for me for "Hey Jonesy!! "yeah whut"
52. Remote Control - 126 pts - 9 votes
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3702/1a00.jpg
(typo on the image re: number of votes)
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
51. Gates of the West - 127 pts - 6 votes - 1 #1
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3082/jeke.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
My Number 1 btw
this band, they had an awful lot of good songs
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
lol that's very Grudenesque.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
"the immigrants and remnants of all the glory years are huddled 'round the bar again for another round of beers. Little Richard's in the kitchen playing spoons and plates he's telling the waitress he's great"
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
lol JF. this band, the clash! they might be one of the best pure punk rock bands in the charts today. i love watching these guys play.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
50. 1977 - 131 pts - 10 votes
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3933/1prh.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
For anyone that loves "Gates of the west" : You have to track down "Ooh Baby Ooh (It's not over)"
― Mark G, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig9cibn4gY4
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
49. Groovy Times - 136 pts - 8 votes
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7950/uxoj.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
lool nice Grudenism, Spiralli :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
48. (TIE) Groovy Times - 136 pts - 8 votes
rather
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
TOOOOOO LOOWWWWWWWW
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
48. (TIE) Jimmy Jazz - 136 points - 8 votes
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9072/7jig.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
Didn't vote for many of these, could have voted for all of these.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
47. Garageland - 138 pts - 9 votes
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7097/v40h.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
gotta love the lyric i read about at least a dozen times before i actually got to hear it sung:
NO ELVIS BEATLES OR THE ROLLING STONESIN 1977!!!!!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
There was Elvis for most of 1977 tho...
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
Jimmy Jazz is so neat
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
46. Wrong 'Em Boyo - 140 pts - 10 votes
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8841/zdhn.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
gotta head out in a bit so i'm gonna move this along
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
is everything on london calling going to place then?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
Jimmy Jazz! love love love. And Wrong em Boyo is fkn neat as hell
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
45. Charlie Don't Surf - 142 pts - 12 votes
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3021/lrbd.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
44. What's My Name - 145 pts - 10 votes
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4961/ztw7.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
'jimmy jazz' just barely made it onto my poll on the strength of strummer's wonderful vocal -- i love the moments where he doesn't even sound like he's singing words, just making random guttural noises.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
43. This is England - 148 pts - 10 votes
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2391/zwod.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
^^^ in my top ten. As a last gasp it's glorious.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
I didn't vote for it but kinda regretting that now. Great stuff
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
Strummer surveying the wreckage of Thatcher's England over the synths that have invaded the marketplace -- and it doesn't sound reactionary. It's like good Mekons.
43. The Prisoner - 151 pts - 8 votes
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9517/uy36.jpg
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
"Jimmy Jazz" was a late cut. Almost made it for being the first song played on their first Chicago show, with Mick sneering, "So, Chicago, this is the home of the blues, right?"
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
Last one for today...
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
41. Hitsville U.K. - 157 pts - 12 votes
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8514/04yo.jpg
Nice! Thought this was one of my weird picks, so wasn't sure it'd place (though apparently it was a single).
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
Hitsville UK is terrible! I like This Is England though.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link
i have always been baffled by the appeal of hitsville uk
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
I gave Hitsville a big bump -- top 5 for me.
― WilliamC, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
It didn't make my ballot, but I can definitely see the appeal. Probably the sweetest-sounding song they ever did.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
First time I heard it was on the radio, and I didn't immediately recognize it as the Clash, but the drumming tipped me off. In addition to his many other talents, Topper had such a great and disctinctive sound on the kit.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
Yes -- one of my favorite drummers of all time.
― WilliamC, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
Hitsville's pretty yuk to me, I have a hard time listening very hard at all beyond just generally recoiling
Mick has this thing where the more he's involved in a song, the more he scrubs off all the stuff that makes you like the Clash and you're left with this sheeny stuff that *sort of* sounds like the Clash, that you kinda tolerate because aw it's Mick innit
I like that he's trying to nod to Motown but uggggggggggggggggh
Hitsville, it makes me nauseous
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
"Hitsville" is initially attractive but sounds rather coy, thanks to Ellen Foley's non-vocal and the arrangement.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
i'll cop to having hitsville at the bottom of my ballot. i just remember putting on sandinista and being amazed and appalled and then more amazed. like how did this band make this song and put it on this record. so, y'know, kudos for just not giving a fuck what anyone thinks. punk rock.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
like, young rogermexico learned a valuable lesson that day about what it really means to be punk as fuck.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link
Isn't that exactly the kind of *people's vocal* that was prominent in the music they're praising in the song, though? I don't find it coy.
xp
― timellison, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link
but I can't praise it for its intentions
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link
I'll praise it for its execution, actually, which I think is fine. It's an aesthetic of charm in just regular humanity, I think.
― timellison, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
I think my problem with "Hitsville" is it thinks good music can exist without "smarmy eels" and "slimy deals," and Foley's vocal is precisely what I don't want to hear on a hit.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link
And, you know, creativity over athletic gifts or accomplishments.
― timellison, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
Foley's vocal makes the sentiment sound affectless, which is even more damaging. I don't know what Strummer would've done with the lyric tbh
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
I love Hitsville, voted for it somewhere in the 20s. I think it's funny, and meant to be.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
TS: "Hitsville UK" vs. "A Town Called Malice"
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
TS: mouth vs marblemouth
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
I like the misguided romance and sonic clatter of "Hitsville" more than anything placing so far off the Cost of Living EP ("Groovy Times," "Gates of the West," "Capital Radio 2"), where they make fun of disco and Chic's "Good Times." That they embraced both on London Calling and Sandinista! (by way of "Rapper's Delight") a small span of months later is one more thing to love about them.
These graphics are awesome.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
Though I gotta clear this up: Is Joe screaming, "I'm the one that I want" at the end of "Capital Radio 2," 'cause that's hilarious.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link
I've had 8 place so far, with "Car Jamming" in my top 5 and "The Prisoner" falling just outside my top 10. "Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad" is the song off Rope that most obviously points to London Calling -- the raucous New Orleans rhythm, the sense it was recorded at a shouty basement party.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
yeah, going to read this thread now.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
I didn't vote in this, but I'm enjoying the hell out of this thread; thanks for doing it guys.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
I think for every song result so far I've lit up and went "I love this song!" Images are cool, too. It's easy to forget, because I hardly ever listen to them these days, but I love this band so fucking much.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link
xxxp i always assumed that's what he said
― sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link
It's like good Mekons
So OTM.
This is a band I love so much I've almost by design not dug beneath the surface. LIke, I haven't learned the lyrics, or tracked down live shows, or looked for clips and stuff. I've lived with these albums for decades now, and they often still feel like the first time when I put them on.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 03:20 (ten years ago) link
yeah I'm the same way
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link
I really got into them in my late teens and read books/tracked bootlegs down etc (most of which I don't remember now). What's been really great these past few weeks is paying attention to the lyrics for the first time in so long. I don't think it clicked just how global Sandinista! (yeah, the name, i know i know) and, really, just how good they are.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link
I like how much of the Ramones I can hear in their first album now that I am listening to it with more ~context~
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah, 'janie jones' and 'career opportunities' in particular sound pretty ramones-y to me.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 04:42 (ten years ago) link
totally!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link
One thing that's neat about Sandinista is when there's a great song buried in the muck someplace. I forgot "Up In Heaven" and "Corner Soul" even existed until a couple years ago. I keep discovering things in that record. I still remember when Street Parade jumped out at me as being a great song. It just happened one day.
And Give 'Em Enough Rope got cheated, but Safe European Home is their best album opener and All The Young Punks is their best album closer. Wish all their albums sounded like it too. Production is great.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link
Rope gets short shrift for some reason and I've never really worked out why
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 05:16 (ten years ago) link
Give 'Em Enough Rope sounds fantastic blasting loudly in a bar.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link
i want to go to that bar right now
i vote we move this poll to that bar & finish it there, all in favor
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 06:10 (ten years ago) link
aye
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 06:17 (ten years ago) link
are you guys still at the bar?!?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
Give 'em enough soap.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link
40. The Street Parade - 162 pts - 8 votes - 1 #1
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/972/9kpr.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
39. The Right Profile - 168 pts - 8 votes - 2 #1
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3664/9k82.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
how much do I love that "the right profile" snagged two #1 votes? a lot. this is going to be a great rollout.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
Glad to see "The Prisoner" yesterday; thought "This Is England" and "Garageland" might have finished higher.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
38. Lose This Skin - 173 pts - 9 votes - 1 #1
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6804/a619.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
A #1 vote for "Lose This Skin?!" I didn't even expect that anyone else would have it on their ballot!
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
Well liked in certain corners. I'm in that corner, obv.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
i suspected there would be a good spread of #1s. this is great. right profile and street parade near misses for me.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
My highest rated Sandinista! track.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
("Lose This Skin" that is)
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
"The Right Profile" was on my shortlist of things that didn't quite make the cut, but I love it to pieces. Especially the breakdown where the song is sort of falling apart the same way Monty is, but then Topper and the horns pull it all back together and lurch unsteadily toward the exit.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
The "Lose This Skin" number one was mine. It's a fantastic song, very free and inspiring and the idea of the Clash being super awesome on a friend's song is very touching in a very Clash way to me.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
37. Washington Bullets - 174 pts - 10 votes
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6392/1hut.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
From Kosmo Vinyl's Clash on Broadway liner notes:
A long time after 'Washington Bullets' came out, I asked Joe if he'd known that there was a basketball team called the Washington Bullets, and he said that he didn't, and that if he'd known at the time he wrote it, he would have given the song a different title.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
see now here's a case of Jones-Strummer harmonizing well
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:00 PM (22 minutes ago)
― Gukbe, Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:03 PM (19 minutes ago)
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:05 PM (17 minutes ago)
It wouldn't surprise me if the Clash get the highest # of different #1s of these artist polls. (Fewest -- probably Led Zeppelin?)
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:07 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's got my favorite Joe noise: ughgg...ugghghgchhgyughbugh...grrrblblbrlbrlbrl
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
36. Brand New Cadillac - 190 pts - 8 votes
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1371/00rl.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
By the way, Gukbe, GREAT photos!
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
Brand New Cadillac YESSSS
opening riff kills me
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
Never one of my favorites, but appearing right after "London Calling" is brilliant because it lets in the fun/tradition/rock and roll after the uber-serious (and great in a very different way) lead cut.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who learned to play this very early on.
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
Amazed at anything from LC only picking up eight votes
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
xp hahaha, it was the first (or second) song I learned to play on guitar!
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link
I dropped "Brand New Cadillac" at the end and stuck with "Jimmy Jazz" instead. It's hard for me too separate them; side 1 of that LP 1 is a continuous epic jam in my head.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
one of the best rockabilly performances of all time, that
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
35. London's Burning - 220 pts - 14 votes
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6561/6gep.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
xpost see that's what chafes me about 'Hitsville' -- the Clash can interpret all KINDS of musical styles, and they can do it really well. They could have pulled off that Motown sound in their own way and been fucking awesome at it. But that pastiche or homage to Motown or whatever it was that Mick seemed to be trying for just was not. good. It didn't *need* all those fkn horns and layered sounds and bullshit.
imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
xpost LALALALALA
I dropped "Brand New Cadillac" at the end and stuck with "Jimmy Jazz" instead. It's hard for me too separate them; side 1 of that LP 1 is a continuous epic jam in my head
lol, just realised I shifted those an extra place apart on ballot, the reason for which can only be so that Gukbe doesn't think I can't tell the difference
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
they are such a perfect pair!
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah they're almost like part 1 and part 2 of a larger song, they slot so well together
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
London's Burning was on and off my ballot a few times. Ended up cutting it, but what a song.
EVERYBODY'S SITTING ROUND, WATCHING TELEVISION!!!
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
34. I'm Not Down - 226 pts - 15 votes
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8442/hre7.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
Gah! Love this, was hoping for a surprise top ten slot
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
literally the last song cut from my ballot. If I had known dub versions would be combined with the originals I would have had room for it, but I wanted to acknowledge the awesome dubs.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
I ranked it fairly high on my ballot, but like was said about "Brand New Cadillac"/"Jimmy Jazz", the awesomeness of "I'm Not Down" is best appreciated paired with "Four Horsemen"
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
Great countdown so far, slightly sad to see 'What's My Name' so low down, that was my favourite off the s/t for a long time.
Spotify playlist in progress: http://open.spotify.com/user/gcwright/playlist/2AGLq6uRy39wYD7cycuY0u
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
xp and followed by revolution rock.
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
"I'm Not Down" is one of my favorite Topper showcases. He keeps switching up patterns, it's like almost every line has a slightly different feel.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
33. Clash City Rockers - 277 pts - 18 votes
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6200/1bxb.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
Love this, as I've noted, but this seems like a reasonable placement for it.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I didn't expect top 10 or anything, I just like that it gets love
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
Playing catch-up. One of the "Right Profile" #1's was me.
Also this:
..."Lose This Skin"... It's a fantastic song, very free and inspiring and the idea of the Clash being super awesome on a friend's song is very touching in a very Clash way to me.― Three Word Username, Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
I didn't think "Clash City Rockers" would place in the top 10.
I thought it would place in the top 5.
:(
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
"Yeah Yeah"
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
32. The Card Cheat - 278 pts - 15 votes - 1 #1
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/6299/5u1b.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
apparently they recorded the song twice, then overlay the second version atop the other to give it that Spector feel.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
wonderful wonderful song.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
My #1!
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
I mean, I could gripe about it placing too low, but as was mentioned upthread, the scattered vote distribution among these tracks is a testament to just how awesome they were.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
31. Should I Stay or Should I Go - 280 pts - 19 votes
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6014/u8el.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
Gotta run out for a bit. I'll be back in a little while with the final 10 for the day.
i worked with a guy who was at the recording of Bank Robber. he was thanked on the back of the sleeve or something iirc. there was 2 of them present at the session and they were both only young lads at the time, the other one was his mate Ian Brown of Stone Roses front-man fame.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
Happy to see this place, and happy to see it this low. Well done everybody!
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
Good showing. I've never gotten tired of "Should I Stay"--the stop/start structure, the howling, all the Spanish, the garage-band chords (found out one day that even I can play it). Also works as a nice metaphor for their situation at the time, intended or not.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
Listened to "Should I Stay" again this morning; probably the least-dated sounding use of gated drums.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
all the Spanish
Joe Ely!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theclashblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/two-joes.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
http://www.austinchronicle.com/music/2000-05-19/77249/
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
Didn't know any of that--I liked some Joe Ely around that time.
"So me and Strummer and the Puerto Rican engineer sat down and translated the lyrics into the weirdest Spanish ever."
I don't know Spanish, so I don't know what exactly is weird about their translation, but I did have to check before posting what language it was--almost sounds like they're speaking in tongues.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
This thread prompted me to listen to Sandinista! on Spotify this afternoon, and it just feels wrong. That's maybe the one album I love that I think really needs to be owned/heard on vinyl, not just for the sound, but for the way it breaks the album up so cleanly into digestible, six-song segments. Even the CD version always felt like blasphemy to me. "Lightning Strikes" and "Lose This Skin" must start their own sides (ditto the freaky radio host from "Version City" who binds the album's final act).
"Have you ever asked yourself, who holds the key that winds up Big Ben...."
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
I've only ever heard Sandinista! on CD, but the side-beginnings are pretty obvious (erm, beyond "Police" starting the second disc). Dudes were masters of sequencing.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
30. The Call Up - 290 pts - 19 votes
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6659/jclj.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
Nice! Did you combine with "the Cool Out" or leave them as discrete versions?
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
One of mine. I never thought this'd be well-loved, that's a lot of votes.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
Wait, Ian Brown has a credit on a Clash record?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
"The Call Up" is amazing.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
I left them as discrete versions, which I think was an oversight really. I was going to have everything separate but people nominated both versions of certain songs as one track so I just combined those and then wound up mixing the dub versions with the regulars on those. I should have done it for all, as "The Cool Out" had 3 votes including a number 1 for a total of 53 points. I'll try to explain my scattered through process in later entries.
xposts
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
On the spur of the moment I said 'I'm going to do the backing vocals in Spanish,' ... We needed a translator so Eddie Garcia, the tape operator, called his mother in Brooklyn Heights and read her the lyrics over the phone and she translated them. But Eddie and his mum are Ecuadorian, so it's Ecuadorian Spanish that me and Joe Ely are singing on the backing vocals. -Joe Strummer, 1991
― sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
This is also the only track that I didn't combine with another version that would have affected its placing, so I'll make a note when we get to where it would have placed.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the clarification on Call Out/ Cool Out.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Call Up/Cool Out, obv.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
29. Tommy Gun - 291 pts - 17 votes - 2 #1
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3761/z98o.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
I remember hearing or reading (but can't substantiate it now) that the whole Spanish-vocals thing started with Mick not wanting to record the song at all because it was too pop, and he said he'd only do it if Joe did a call and response with him, and Joe said he'd only do the call and response in Spanish.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
Also, Tommy Gun is great. I probably should have voted for it, but ...
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
28. Hateful - 298 pts - 15 votes
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3889/6u3o.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
There's my no.3. Too low.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
I don't know if its my favourite Topper jam, but it's definitely one of them. The way he switches into the '...and I'm so grateful' bit.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
He was so great, imagine playing with him
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
So many great bits in this short song
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
omg two of my favorite Clashes right there
tooooooooooooooooooommmmy guuuuuuun and the staccato guitar <3
hateful is the fucking BEST EVER EVER EVER god I can't even put into words how much I love this song it makes me want to dance forever
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I was in a band in college that did "Hateful" and I never really nailed that transition in the drum part. Hard to make it flow so seamlessly. Just a great, great tune. So lively for such a dark, dank lyric. (Could basically have been written about Topper just a few years later.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
those bright horns are really something
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
And the way they all nail the ending -- bam bam -- and then it's right into "Rudie Can't Fail." The comment about sequencing earlier was otm, their albums are full of great timing and lead-ins from one song to another.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
I never really though about it, but really Joe did write most of everything, didn't he? Haven't read the books, but what was the division of labor, generally? Did they write together?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
I like this story re: Rock the Casbah:
Digby Cleaver (Mick Jones' guitar technician): "I just remember [Topper Headon] sitting at the piano and playing that riff. [...] He put bass and drums on it, and it sounded brilliant. He did the whole thing himself. He presented it to Joe with this soppy set of lyrics abou how much he missed his girlfriend. Joe just took one look at these words and said 'How incredibly interesting!', screwed the piece of paper into a ball and chucked it backwards over his head. Topper's face! Joe said 'Look, I write the bloody words. I've got a set of lyrics that will fit this already.' And that was what became 'Rock The Casbah'."
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
lol poor Top
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
27. Stay Free - 299 pts - 17 votes - 1 #1
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8114/d4eq.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
Haha
But to Joe's credit, he'd had a pretty good track record of replacing the original writer's intent with his own ("Mick said, 'It's called "I'm So Bored With You"! It's about my girlfriend!' I said, 'Never mind all that!'")
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Stay Free was the first song I ever played with my first real band. That my first real band would go on to invent emo is probably not a coincidence.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
I tried to get my band back in the day to cover it, but the bass player couldn't handle it.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
Also GIS suggests the lyrics are a favourite among tattoo enthusiasts and graffiti artists.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
I almost always wrote my own basslines to Clash stuff, being unable to hack Simonon's parts -- but this one fell right under my baby fingers for some reason.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
I love Joe's antiromantic tyranny, imagine what a bunch of sops they'd be without him rampaging over their broken hearts, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
26. Know Your Rights - 310 pts - 19 votes
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6168/x58v.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
"It's called 'Lovely Call Me' about a girl I broke up with and I want her to call me""RAGH. Sod that. London Calling."
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
xpost nooooooooooo too low
THIS IS A PUBLICSERVICEANNOUNCEMENT
WITH
GUITAAARS
"Stay Free" quoted on The Wire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPScohqtbyo
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
ha. never noticed that.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
"Stay Free" is the first one that makes me really wanna yell TOO LOW. My favorite Mick vocal.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
I didn't vote for "Know Your Rights" but two things: One of my favorite Youtube sights is seeing Paul play bass on it; and it's the only Clash song I've ever seen a high-school student of mine (Mexican American sophomore) get excited about.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
I cited Know Your Rights in a law school exam once. The class was called Law In Society and when I got into the exam there was an essay question about depictions of law in popular culture. We hadn't studied that in the class at all but I thought 'fuck it, I'm doing that one', and Know Your Rights was one of the things I wrote about.
I had never heard Know Your Rights at the time, I just knew the title.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
Really not an obvious cover choice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbLlQxMjmqc
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
voted for "Stay Free." Jones is rather fey on it, no?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Jones is Guy to Strummer's Ian MacKaye.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
xpost I really dig the PJ version
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
25. Somebody Got Murdered - 325 pts - 24 votes
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3830/2mxf.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
OH SHITESOUNDS LIKE MURDER
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Know Your Rights was my #2. Bummed that it just missed the top 25.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Too good for the movie Scarface
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
24. Armagideon Time/Justice Tonight/Kick It Over - 339 pts - 17 votes - 3 #1
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4104/uags.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
woooh
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
I don't know why my expectations when I started this had this in the top 5.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
By "this" I mean Armagideon Time.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Oh, and this is where "The Call Up" would have placed if I had added "The Cool Out".
Gotcha. I do wish the combination policy was clear before voting, but at the same time my two votes for a few songs & dubs pushed them higher. 6 of one, half dozen of another.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, that's my bad.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
23. Death or Glory - 356 pts - 24 votes - 1 #1
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6165/pe2v.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
It's no biggie. I doubt any of the dubs would have placed on their own.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
way too low
― a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
"He who POLLS nuns later joins the church"
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
oh man i wish i had thought of that
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
22. I'm So Bored with the U.S.A. - 369 pts - 19 votes - 1 #1
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5508/nt7i.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
I am too, Clash. I am too.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
aren't we all.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
ok, last one for today.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
Police and Thieves - 396 pts - 23 votes - 1 #1
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2811/dmx8.jpg
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
what a way to go out
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
i'M
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
SO BOOOOOORED
WITH THE
U!
S! A!
I was one of the #1 votes for "Tommy Gun," I really had no idea how well regarded the song was so I'm a little disappointed it's that low
― king of steens (some dude), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
It was in my top 10, at #10 I think. I could've easily bumped it up and felt no remorse. Great song!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
Oops, #9 even.
cf Death or Glory imo. expect it'll tank in this poll due to antirockist bias but to my ear it's nothing short of a complete musical and spiritual triumph and kinda encapsulates everything i love about the band.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013
I stand by my post in the voting thread.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
I held off on using that iconic picture just for that song.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
it's a great match
as good a place as any to mention that among its many virtues: crack-pate backing vox worthy of keith richards
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
Rundown so far...
60. Hate and War - 96 pts - 6 votes58. (TIE) Car Jamming - 104 pts - 7 votes58. (TIE) Pressure Drop - 104 pts - 10 votes57.Ghetto Defendant - 106 pts - 10 votes56. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - 111 pts - 10 votes55. Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad - 113 pts - 11 votes54. Jail Guitar Doors - 122 pts - 11 votes53. Capital Radio - 124 pts - 7 votes52. Remote Control - 126 pts - 9 votes51. Gates of the West - 127 pts - 6 votes - 1 #150. 1977 - 131 pts - 10 votes48. (TIE) Groovy Times - 136 pts - 8 votes48. (TIE) Jimmy Jazz - 136 points - 8 votes47. Garageland - 138 pts - 9 votes46. Wrong 'Em Boyo - 140 pts - 10 votes45. Charlie Don't Surf - 142 pts - 12 votes44. What's My Name - 145 pts - 10 votes43. This is England - 148 pts - 10 votes43. The Prisoner - 151 pts - 8 votes41. Hitsville U.K. - 157 pts - 12 votes
40. The Street Parade - 162 pts - 8 votes - 1 #139. The Right Profile - 168 pts - 8 votes - 2 #138. Lose This Skin - 173 pts - 9 votes - 1 #137. Washington Bullets - 174 pts - 10 votes36. Brand New Cadillac - 190 pts - 8 votes35. London's Burning - 220 pts - 14 votes34. I'm Not Down - 226 pts - 15 votes33. Clash City Rockers - 277 pts - 18 votes32. The Card Cheat - 278 pts - 15 votes - 1 #131. Should I Stay or Should I Go - 280 pts - 19 votes30. The Call Up - 290 pts - 19 votes29. Tommy Gun - 291 pts - 17 votes - 2 #128. Hateful - 298 pts - 15 votes27. Stay Free - 299 pts - 17 votes - 1 #126. Know Your Rights - 310 pts - 19 votes25. Somebody Got Murdered - 325 pts - 24 votes24. Armagideon Time/Justice Tonight/Kick It Over - 339 pts - 17 votes - 3 #123. Death or Glory - 356 pts - 24 votes - 1 #122. I'm So Bored with the U.S.A. - 369 pts - 19 votes - 1 #121. Police and Thieves - 396 pts - 23 votes - 1 #1
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
You know, with all the Clash lyrics Joe wrote, the only 'romantic' line he had was the mention of 'my sweet Gabriella' (his rl girlfriend) in 'Junco Partner'
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
That smart girl wouldn't sign her name
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
SMASH THE ROMANTIC TYRANTS
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
Safe European Home and Tommy Gun were my #1 and #2. Also bummed to see Tommy Gun place so low.
P.S. Here's Sleater-Kinney covering it. Way better than you'd think for a one-off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfZ7w5PqWsI
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
joe didn't write junco partner
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Not The Slits, then?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
xpost I know, but there are loads of versions where you can add whatever you like to it. As did Joe...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
Nah, that was a joke. I thought it'd be funny to make it impossible to find.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link
the "I would have pawned my sweet..." line is in james wayne's 1951 version.
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
"Gabriella" being the key ..
Anyways...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
my 6, 9 and 10 have come up so far - hateful, card cheat and call up. i am officially concerned about 1 of the rest of my top 10.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
Realised I had the whole of side 1 of rope in my 30
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
Is there a definitive Clash bio, or even a good one? I think I have the first edition of the Marcus Gray, but I've yet to read it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
I kinda like that there isn't one - all just different competing stories. Even VInce White's book is good as long as you're thumbing through it in a store (I wouldn't suggest buying it)
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
Vince White's book is more an unflinching portrayal of alcoholism than a Clash biography as such. It's kinda great though.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
Just checking this out for the first time. I guess we're experiencing a shortage of gimmick hungry yobs digging gold from rock n roll, because Death Or Glory is far, far too low.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
"I'm So Bored" is the 2nd of my top 5 to show up (way too low). I love the punchy syncopated rhythm guitar on the verses, and the blare and roar of the chorus. Maybe my favorite punk song (or at least part of a foursome with "God Save the Queen," "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "Oh Bondage Up Yours").
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
yeah it has that classic punk sneer and bop
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, July 16, 2013
hey at least someone had the foresight to give it a #1 vote
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
Death Or Glory was my 2. I can't say my #1 cause it hasn't come up yet, but it's a lock for the top 5 and is just so immense there was no way I couldn't put it at the top.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link
i didn't vote, so not complaining or anything, just noticing:
astonished and very very pleased that sandinista was #2 album. i always thought that album divided fans in a big way. astonished and a touch saddened that the debut album wasn't #1, but maybe the two versions split too many votes?
and i'm crying here over the terribly low ranking of the great mick moment "stay free."
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link
as I noted in voting thread, written by Joe for Mick
so bummed this poll didn't happen next year
(but great to see fcc popping up for it!)
― eau de feet (sic), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link
Xpost -- had no idea that was Pearl Jam until the end. I joined a friend's band onstage to cover it once. Great song and in my top 5. The echo on Mock's guitar there (and throughout combat rock) is a thing of beauty.
Surprise Armagideoj Time was not top ten. You know it would have made Joe's top ten!
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:24 (ten years ago) link
anyone read this?
https://d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net/books/1312046823l/804111.jpg
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link
Mick's (no disrespect meant)
Armagideon. Damn iPad. Stupid capital P autocorrect
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:26 (ten years ago) link
Riot of Our Own is a must-read, though I think only covers a couple of years.
Don Letts' documentary was surprisingly disappointing. He directed the punk and the dance/hip hop episodes of the WGBH history of rock and roll and they are really worth seeking out. But the Clash doc imo is a bit too safe.
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:29 (ten years ago) link
That book is great 'fun', and it had a lot to do with 'Return of the last gang in town' being much better. (Sorry, Josh)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:40 (ten years ago) link
I think it's aged remarkably well. It's taken decades for me to come around on it, but whenever a track from it comes up on shuffle I end up listening to the rest of the album from that point. I wish more bands could be as confidently shambling as the Clash. I guess Exile On Main St. was an outlier album for a long-time too.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 08:53 (ten years ago) link
The lyrics are the big weak point for me. It sounds like it was put together in a hurry, which can be carried by a good groove and a great producer, but you can't paper over lyrics or tunes.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 08:55 (ten years ago) link
I think the lyrics are amazing.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 09:07 (ten years ago) link
Listening to it a lot over the past few weeks that's what has really stood out for me.
I'm kind of amazed by how excited I am about this poll. You all voted White Man #1 too, right?
― campreverb, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 11:51 (ten years ago) link
shh.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link
If both versions of the self-titled album were counted together, that'd be #1 and knock everything down a spot, remember (assuming that there weren't a ton of people who voted for both)
― king of steens (some dude), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
I did not vote "White Man" #1, but I could have, and if it was today, I might have!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
I didn't either, but I would be perfectly happy with it as a poll winner.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
Outside the top 5 would be a travesty.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
I can't claim to be unbiased (Clash fan and all), but I love the Letts documentary to pieces. It's got their warmest interviews, touches on everything I would, and has the momentum of their music. Julien Temple's Strummer doc is a perfect compliment. I saw that another doc screened in Minneapolis last year, but anything non-ironically titled the Rise and Fall of anything feels like bad news.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
Bearing in my mind my poor track record of predicting poll results I'm going to say White Man #1, Train in Vain #2 and Guns of Brixton #3. A nice Joe/Mick/Paul Top 3.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
My guess would be "Complete Control," but I'm off on a lot of these too.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
Complete Control was my #1, iirc. Didn't vote Train. Or Guns, I don't think!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
We're taking it to the top, then.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
My 100% track record of wrong predictions looks safe.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
All three of predicted top 3 are in my top 10, but Complete Control is my #1. TO THE TOP!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
*DL's predicted top 3
I don't even know how this is being scored - songs with eight votes scoring near double the total of songs with fourteen votes makes me think this might all look a bit weird up top.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
I downloaded a vinyl rip of "Sandinista!" that breaks the album down into side by side blocks. It is a better way to listen than the double-CD, by far!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
20. Bankrobber/Robberdub - 399 pts - 21 votes - 1 #1
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7004/h92d.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
19. Career Opportunities - 406 pts - 26 votes
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6566/sewu.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
Promising start to the top 20 so far.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
Nice. I was never a huge fan of "Bankrobber" but it is widely beloved enough to be Top 20. "Career Opportunities, on the other hand, kicks ass and should be higher.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
If there was one track that pushed me into liking dub, it was "Bankrobber". I love it.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Thought "Career Opportunities" might place higher.
"Bankrobber" was Top 5 for me, so glad it got a #1 vote. And since no one commented on it at the start of the thread....OMG @ that TOTP clip!
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
So far 14 of mine have placed.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
And yeah I would have thought CO would have placed higher too. It was my #4.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
Same here, including half of my top ten.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
15 of mine have placed so far. CO wasn't in my top 10, but I assumed it was a lock for the top 10.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
clash are one of those bands where there are 15-20 locks for the top 10 tho
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
Only two of my top 10 have placed - CO and I'm Not Down.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
MY NUMBER ONE BETTER BE THE NUMBER ONE BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST SONG EVER PERIOD.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
18. Rock the Casbah - 441 pts - 25 votes
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1607/5ply.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
some big names being taken in the high teens
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
Cool. Does that include votes for "Mustapha Dance"?
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
and "Look Here."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
That does not include "Mustapha Dance", which got 18 pts. Wouldn't have affected the ranking.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
no.18 ffs
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
17. This is Radio Clash - 463 pts - 23 votes - 1 #1
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5534/yd6x.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
Too low! I still hold the 12-inch of this as some kind of mysterious 2001-like object. Mick really picked up what was going on in New York dance production around that moment and went nuts with it.
Thought I'd take a moment to marvel again at the list of openers for their Bonds residency: the Slits, Funkapolitan, the Equators, Grandmaster Flash and the Treacherous Three, the Sirens, the Sugarhill Gang, Lee Perry, Joe Ely, the Nitecaps, Miller Miller Miller & Sloane, Kraut, the Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, the Fall, the Bloods, ESG, and the Brattles (a high-school aged band).
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
that's a ridonculous line-up
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
16. Lost in the Supermarket - 465 pts - 25 votes
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2899/1dhf.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
idg why Lost In the Supermarket is so high...I mostly skip it (sorry Mick)
Career Opportunities is such a jam. and it always get me fired up! ...even though I've been gainfully employed for 10 yrs
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
THIS IS RADIO CLASH AT #17? THIS IS INSANITY.
For reals, I thought it had a great shot at winning, but definitely going top 5.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
see I *like* Radio Clash, but I don't rate it in the top 10
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
Btw that's "This is Radio Clash" and "Radio Clash" combined.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
Hmmm I dislike "Radio Clash."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
Mick really picked up what was going on in New York dance production around that moment and went nuts with it.
otm. That was a top 10 pick for me, still sounds so urgent and funky and freaked-out.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
acts' big singles do usually get the shaft in these polls, but none more unfairly than Rock The Casbah imo
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
15. Spanish Bombs - 476 pts - 26 votes
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5830/rvhi.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
"Lost in the Supermarket," besides the great hook, has some of Joe's best writing ever. The thing about "the people who lived on the ceiling" screaming and fighting and "hearing that noise was my first ever feeling" -- and "long distance callers make long distance calls/and the silence makes me lonely" -- I mean, lots and lots of people have done middle-class anomie, but not many have made so plaintive and identifiable. He empties a bottle, he feels a bit free, he puts on his giant-hit discotheque album, the pipes in the walls make him noises for company. It could have been a novelty song, but instead it's a Raymond Carver story.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
I once saw Spanish Bombs as an audio exhibit at the Imperial War Museum, alongside some period propaganda and a book of Lorca
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
Love all the old Austin, Texas stuff in the Casbah vid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
did This Is Radio Clash leave a legacy? I'm not aware of it having been sampled, or becoming a club classic or anything
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
xp Joe's haircut in that video is so now
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
I love Spanish bombs
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
I do know the Clash rarely get name checked as early hip-hop adopters, unlike Blondie, say. Sandinista! came out like a month after Autoamerican.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
I love Lost in the Supermarket - it made my top ten and Spanish Bombs almost did but came in at #11 for me.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
"Magnificent Seven" was used in some early hip hop songs, no? xpost
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
did This Is Radio Clash leave a legacy? I'm not aware of it having been sampled, or becoming a club classic or anything― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Pardon my ignorance, but how much Clash stuff has been sampled in the post-clearance era? I guess it could be alot, and I'm probably forgetting something, but I seem to recall an interview w/Garbage after their debut wherein they allude to paying an arm & a leg by a major act to clear a sample, which had to be "Train In Vain" on "Stupid Girl" because The Clash were easily the biggest act of the three or four samples on that album.
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
"To a major act"
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
"This is Radio Clash" was in my top 10. Love it. I didn't hear it until the late 80s, and for a long time I had no idea where it fit into their chronology. I assumed it was the last thing the original lineup had done (post-Combat Rock, pre-Crap), and while it obviously wasn't, it sounds like it could've been.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
"Paper Planes" sampled "Straight to Hell"
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link
<facepalm> Of course...
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
14. London Calling - 477 pts - 27 votes - 2 #1
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/6794/gdif.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
xp: Yeah, "Lost" describes simultaneous alienation from and comfort from capitalism at the bottom of heap better than just about any song I can think of--it's a warmer "Janie Jones."
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
Happy to see "London Calling" this low. It's a cracker, and a classic one at that, but enough is enough.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
Higher than I thought it would be tbh. Rock The Casbah should be higher
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
13. White Riot - 494 pts - 29 votes
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/831/0yki.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
Some songs I thought were Top 10 locks are falling short!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
xpost Post clearance is a different issue. I know the aforementioned Too Much Joy tried to sample the Clash and was denied. Obviously the Beastie Boys pulled it off. Um, Big Audio Dynamite sample the Clash!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
Will Smith borrowed virtually the whole of Casbah, but he rapped about the 'year 2G' in it so I'm cool with it
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I always wondered that. Was it super easy for Mick to get the rights to Clash samples, or did he just have to go through the usual channels?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
I remember Joe talking about the "Should I Stay or Should I Go" usage in the Levi's ad, and he said something to the affect of "it was Mick's song so he could do what he wanted with it."
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
But he and Strummer share writing credit on that; surely Joe could've nixed it (like John Densmore did with a Doors song not too long ago) ?
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
Well he could have, but I think the point was that he felt it was Mick's and so didn't get in the way.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
Ah, got it.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
xp: By 1990 "This Is Radio Clash" was still getting regular play as a video/track in Danceteria-type clubs like the 9:30 in D.C. and First Avenue in Minneapolis, a perfect bridge for mixing rap, house, industrial, punk, etc. And it got regular play on MTV well past it's release, like into '84 at least. That's an amazing afterlife, when you think about it. The Clash coming out on CD in '88 must have helped.
Samples aren't always the best chart of influence, but I do wonder if ESG playing that Bonds gig the same month as their release of "UFO" helped make that the most sampled punk record of all time.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
12. Clampdown - 521 pts - 25 votes - 1 #1
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2282/h3un.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
so good! who is not voting for clampdown? savages
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
My #1.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
Love the Vanilla Tapes version of "Clampdown," and the Indigo Girls':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0oai2wAj4Q
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
I stuck "Clampdown" and "London Calling" at the very end of my ballot because I wanted to throw some weight behind other tracks. They're both amazing though and I felt compelled to include them.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
i have cranked out this tune before but a pox on any kind of tactical voting in these polls imo
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
It became tactical when there were 50+ deserving songs. Top 15 in order, and then the rest fall as they may.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
No vote from me for Clampdown. Probably my least-favourite on the album, never gets going for me.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
11. I Fought the Law - 522 pts - 23 votes
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/6674/fiqd.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
TOP TEN, PEOPLE. WE'RE TO THE TOP TEN!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
Never thought this cover was anything special. They did much better covers than "I Fought The Law"
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
if 20-11 had been their top 10 tracks the clash would have every reason to be delighted with themselves. but there are still ten more tracks to come, and another mile of height atop this precarious punk tower of babel.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
i think i fought the law is their best cover, and probably the only one i would say beats the original. the energy of that recording is insane.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
but i didn't vote for any covers, seemed wrong
Yeah, I'm probably partial to The Clash's version of I Fought The Law because it was the first band I heard do the song. Other versions (including the original) sound good. The Clash's sounds great.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Energetic, yes, but doesn't add anything to the Bobby Fuller version's sneer. It doesn't feel like a Clash song the way some of the other covers fit them.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:06 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^this. I *think* the opening drums (which go from "oh, this'll be fun" to "OH SHIT I better duck") are doubled, but on the live versions, Topper's sound is just as charging and heavy.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't love I Fought The Law any more than I do, yet it's still only my no.3
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
white riot should be higher imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
no.4 even, what a band
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
10. The Guns of Brixton - 540 pts - 24 votes - 1 #1
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/833/8hzb.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESS
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
GO PAUL GO
nice.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
oh! london calling poll winner iirc so expected higher but feels like a good spot for it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
I forgot it won that poll. It's the highest ranking London Calling track on my ballot so I'm good with it.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
Best use of Velcro in music?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
TS: The Guns of Brixton vs Belle and Sebastian's "Expectations"
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
Simonon was SO HOT.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
Sometimes I envy the band's energy, but then I think about the copious amount of speed they and every punk band was doing and I don't feel so bad.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
"Spanish Bombs" boasts the best mangled Spanish I've ever heard, and it took months before the Internet to decipher it.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
I do appreciate the fact that he sings with a Barcelona accent. It's Spanish-Spanish!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
9. Police on My Back - 541 pts - 26 votes - 1 #1
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1261/zqer.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
That's one of the better covers.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
reward for all those that did not bail out of Sandinista!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
love this, i thought maybe it had missed out by this point
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
I think my #1 missed out. :(
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
I like the story from the box set about how they had somebody dig up Joe's copy of POMB and ship it to the studio in New York because nobody they talked to over here knew the song or who The Equals were.
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
I thought that was IFTL
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
8. The Magnificent Seven - 548 pts - 28 votes - 1 #1
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3875/5bzk.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
loooove the version on From Here to Eternity.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
magnificent 8
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
Oh good!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
should have been 1 higher...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
you lot! wot?
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
Guessing "Midnight Log" won't make it :-(
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
don' stop..
SEVEN!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
Ha, that version -- or, more accurately, Chimes' playing on it -- actually makes me angry. He removed Topper's swing and replaced it with plod.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
police on my back was my #1, it's everything the clash were about
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
I thought that was IFTL― Mark G, Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:35 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mark G, Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:35 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nah, they picked that one up off a jukebox at bar near a studio.
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
fair enough
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
huh i never rated funkified clash that highly, tho i like it. i even love overpowered by funk with futura. whoever wrote that they just kept piling more shit on top with it is otm (at least i think someone wrote that around here).
― a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXJxYNUoJKs
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
Pretty clear what's left in store here, but the order may be a surprise.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
I have forgotten all of them on purpose.
(except one)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
First time I've ever heard the original--excellent. Had the Clash #2.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
7. Rudie Can't Fail - 564 pts - 28 votes - 2 #1
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6285/hrd5.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Gah! My no.1
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
Total jam.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
What a track, it's as good as rock gets, so many hooks
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
So many nutty vocal/lyrical asides in this.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
no way is the Clash "I Fought The Law" better than the Bobby Fuller version
― crüt, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
I thought I was alone about RDF.
Then you people and your Grosse Pointe Blank discovered it.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
When I was in high school I entered some Daughters of Democracy contest or something, because I knew there was an open slot so I was guaranteed to win something. And I wrote a boilerplate speech about democracy and patriotism and sent in a tape of myself reciting it. And I made sure to have, for some reason, "Rudie Can't Fail" playing faintly in the background. I came in second. Won $50.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
magnificent
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
i think i had this 4th but it could easily have been higher. joyous.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
Topper is brilliant on this again, switching between beats, and those little double-snares before each verse and chorus are a lovely touch
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
Is it just coincidence that both The Clash and The Specials had Rudi(e) songs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_boy
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
6. Train in Vain - 568 pts - 27 votes - 2 #1
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3228/ukv9.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
confession: first version I hears was Annie Lennox's.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Ouch.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcs3iEhWX3c
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
I like Dwight's version.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah me too, i only heard it recently but i was pleasantly surprised
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
Was talking about the fad for hidden tracks on CDs the other day, and how they are mostly rubbish. Clash 'hide' a track on vinyl and it is an absolute gem
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
Someone recently posted a link to their review of Train In Vain, presumably somewhere on the voting thread. I liked the piece, I forgot to say.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
love the sound of the bass
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
I like that Lennox version! Never heard that, and dig that she didn't switch the gender.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
I'll rep for Lennox's covers of "No More 'I Love You's'" and "Waiting in Vain" off of the same album, but her "Train in Vain" cover is just...yuck!
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
Also, with 5 slots to go, I can only think of 2 sure things. Weird...
I can think of 4.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
Wait, 3...
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
I think I have to shed a tear here for my #s 1, 4 & 7.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
Xpost Clash didn't hide "Train in Vain," it was added after the art was done!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
Would "Train in Vain" be considered a hidden track? I was under the impression it was written and recorded in a few days after the London Calling sessions had ended, and the artwork had already gone to the printers so they couldn't add it on.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
whoops xpost
I'll rep for Lennox's covers of "No More 'I Love You's'" and "Waiting in Vain" off of the same album,
and "Something So Right."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
Aw, Police on my Back was my #2.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
5. Safe European Home - 658 pts - 29 votes - 3 #1
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2474/ejd9.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
too low
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
Starting to think Protex Blue might not make it.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
BOOOOOOOOOO
TOO LOW
Y'All SUCK
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
the only one to fall where I ranked it thus far.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
(was my number 1)
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
i think i have worked out the remaining 4. 3 obvious and 1 which would be a top 4 surprise but more of a surprise not to make it at all.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
my #1
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
See, Al knows what's up.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
Drums on "Safe European Home" up there with opening snare hit in "Like a Rolling Stone."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
I can't remember what's been and what's not been, I'm awash in an endless sea of Clash. Bring it on.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Good place to link to a blog with the isolated tracks:
http://news.theclashblog.com/the-clash-songs-stripped/
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Something else I love about the Clash is how they were a band that most certainly did not simply replicate the studio versions live. I totally love that they knew how to shape up in the studio, but when they played they were ragged, sloppy and raw in all the best ways.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Next one has the lowest number of votes in the Top 10, but curiously, no #1s.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
4. Janie Jones - 662 pts - 23 votes
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/234/hilz.jpg
xxxxxxetcpost
That wasn't one of the ones I was thinking of--didn't even know it was that beloved. Then again, Give 'em Enough Rope was always the one (proper) Clash record I could never fully embrace.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
i came to rope last of all for some reason and with low expectations. i knew tommy gun and english civil war and nothing else. this opener floored me instantly. i have a vivid memory of just snapping to attention.
janie jones my highest track from the first album, similar to the other best songs on there but just more somehow. lucky lady!
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
Safe European Home sounds like terror, pulls off the weird trick of being both contemptuous and sympathetic to its point of view, and uses the structure of a novelty song to create something very fucking serious. It was my number three.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
Safe European Home sounds like terror
OTM
xxp Lennox: Well, I confess, I don't like "Train in Vain" much anyway so there's not much at stake for me. Why must his love interest explain anything? Get over it dude!
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
My god, those isolates. Someone MUST make a mid-90s post-rave UK euphoric piano house track out of the Rock The Casbah piano isolate.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Listening to "Rope" right now. Younger daughter thought they were singing "Julie's Been Working for the Duck Squad."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
that works perfectly for me. Don't mess with ducks, kids. They're vicious little fuckers.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
well now i want to come up with duck-related alternate lyrics
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
next one also has no #1 votes
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
The call and response vocals on SEH are a peak.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130424025220/onepiece/images/2/2c/Super_Spot-Billed_Duck_Squad_Infobox.png
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
3. Straight to Hell - 687 pts - 34 votes
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6026/dcca.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
Man, what a beaut, that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be2pMMYNzQ8
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
xxxxxxpost
"I've got my giant hit 'Disco Duck' album"
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
FHTE version is epic, even taking into account Chimes.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
Voted for "Straight To Hell," but didn't think it was gonna place at this point. Woo!
I only have one of these last two pegged. I'm gonna slap myself when I see the other, aren't I?
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
figured this had to place somewhere. not a fan m'self.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
xp yes for definite
Lovely cover of it here, btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5AMg5OP7OM
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jURoIytNuvQ
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
From the numbers, is Straight to Hell the most voted for song?
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
"Straight to Hell" is one of the best jukebox songs of all time. You can bring a bar to its knees with that one (plus it goes on for a while, so you get your credit's worth)
― Evan R, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
I know Train in Vain wasn't really hidden, which is why i used quote marks, but people used to call it a hidden track as it wasn't on the cover tracklist.Bummed that Safe European Home wasn't top 3 at least.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
Every song in the top 5 is number 1.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
Massive point jump to the top 2. Gonna post them together because it should be obvious by now.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
damn, that straight to hell embed is disabled already
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Groovy Times?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
One of 'em is my #1. Hopefully it's also THE #1.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
"Ducks on the roof!"
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
come on "Rebel Waltz"...
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
Duck stabbing time
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
2. Complete Control - 924 pts - 34 votes - 7 #1
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2872/5pof.jpg
1. (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - 999 pts - 37 votes - 3 #1
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5034/552y.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
FOILED!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Wow! Did not expect "Complete Control" to be up there! Great winner folks!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Not that WMIHP isn't a worthy champ.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
My #s 5 and 9. I'm more than OK with these results.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
that's a couple of decent songs right there
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
Seven #1s below three #1s--surprising.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
"Complete Control" had by more the most #1 votes with 7, but there were 25 different songs that got a #1 vote out of 43 ballots.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
by far the most*
999 points is a suitably punky kissoff
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
My number 1 didn't make it. :(
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
"We Are The Clash"?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
complete control my #1, blistering. i realized during this poll it is basically the same structure as safe european home, my #2. if it ain't broke.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
Nice work, Gukbe! And nice work six other "Complete Control" #1 voters.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
Ballot postin' time! Protex Blue wuz robbed!1. Lose This Skin2. Stay Free3. Safe European Home4. Police on my Back5. Clampdown6. Lost in the Supermarket7. Remote Control8. Washington Bullets9. This is Radio Clash10. Brand New Cadillac11. Police and Thieves12. Somebody Got Murdered13. Wrong em Boyo14. Spanish Bombs15. Straight to Hell16. Bankrobber17. I Fought the Law18. Magnificent Seven19. Ghetto Defendant20. Rudie Can't Fail21. London Calling22. Protex Blue23. Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad24. The Guns of Brixton25. Career Opportunities (Sandanista)26. Death or Glory27. Janie Jones28. Know Your Rights29. Junco Partner30. Jail Guitar Doors
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
I don't remember "Straight to Hell" being such a big deal at the time--maybe I'm wrong. Is it revered now primarily because of the sample?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, 26 different #1s. And EZ Snappin, it was number 77.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
By the early 90s, it was a song I always heard at parties.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Straight to Hell, that is.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
"Rebel Waltz" was 62. Just outside the countdown!
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
My own ballot:
Complete ControlKnow Your RightsThis Is Radio ClashThe Guns of BrixtonThe Magnificent SevenTrain in VainJanie Jones(White Man) In Hammersmith PalaisTommy GunGroovy TimesShould I Stay or Should I Go?ClampdownStraight to HellStay FreeCareer OpportunitiesSafe European HomeLost in the SupermarketRock the CasbahLondon CallingPressure DropGaragelandThe City of the DeadSomebody Got MurderedClash City RockersThe Call UpPolice & ThievesWhite RiotProtex Blue1977Death or Glory
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
My ballot. bold didn't place/wasn't tallied with original version in the case of a couple of dubs:
1. The Leader2. Straight To Hell3. (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais4. Rebel Waltz5. Safe European Home6. White Riot7. Ivan Meets G.I. Joe8. The Guns Of Brixton9. The Call Up10. The Right Profile11. Police & Thieves12. Rudie Can't Fail13. Career Opportunities14. Mustapha Dance 15. The Magnificent Seven16. Jimmy Jazz 17. Complete Control18. This Is Radio Clash19. Justice Tonight20. Spanish Bombs21. Police On My Back22. Armagideon Time23. London's Burning24. Death Or Glory25. Know Your Rights26. Janie Jones27. The Cool Out28. Washington Bullets29. Clampdown30. London Calling
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
Huge thanks for running this, Gukbe. Lots of fun.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
My amazing challops for the day: I don't like Janie Jones very much.
Didn't vote in this cos lazy. Tommy Gun was too low, one of my favourite straight punk rock songs by them, Career Opportunities another good one but that did OK. Complete Control prob would've been my #1 I guess, criticisms of which are completely founded but I like it anyway
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
1. Safe European Homes2. White Man in Hammersmith Palais3. I Fought The Law4. Complete Control5. Janie Jones6. Spanish Bombs7. One More Time8. Stay Free9. This is England10. London's Burning11. 197712. Washington Bullets13. Police at My Back14. Straight to Hell15. Lost in the Supermarket16. Wrong'em Boyo17. Groovy Times18. Jimmy Jazz19. Clampdown20. The Magnificent Seven21. Death or Glory22. Guns on the Roof23. Up in Heaven (Not in Here)24. Bankrobber25. Somebody Got Murdered26. Charlie Don't Surf27. White Riot28. What's My Name29. London Calling30. Jail Guitar Doors
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
My 30:
Rudie Can't FailRock The CasbahHatefulI Fought The LawThe Magnificent SevenKnow Your RightsTrain In VainI'm Not DownThe Guns Of BrixtonThe Call Up
This Is Radio ClashJimmy JazzWhite Man In Hammersmith PalaisBrand New CadillacThe EqualiserShould I Stay Or Should I GoIvan Meets GI JoeThe Card CheatStraight To HellLightning Strikes Not Once But Twice
Revolution RockSafe European HomeLondon CallingWhite RiotGhetto DefendantDeath Or GloryThis Is EnglandCheapskatesOne More TimeJunkie Slip
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
Guess I'm wrong about "Straight to Hell"--checked three other polls/lists, and it was #1, #2, and #18.
Thanks for doing this, Gukbe.
1. “Complete Control”2. “Police on My Back”3. “The Prisoner”4. “Train in Vain”5. “Should I Stay or Should I Go”6. “This Is England”7. “(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais”8. “Garageland”9. “White Riot”10. “Clampdown”
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
Here's mine. Pretty sure most songs made it except Revolution Rock and Last Gang in Town
1. Police on My Back
2. Safe European home
3. Complete Control
4. Armagideon Time
5. Know Your Rights
6. Guns of Brixton
7. Brand New Cadillac
8. I Fought the Law
9. Straight to Hell
10. The Call Up
11. The Clampdown
12. Revolution Rock
13. English Civil War
14. The Magnificent Seven
15. Clash City Rockers
16. Tommy Gun
17. London Calling
18. What’s My Name?
19. I’m not Down
20. Lost in the Supermarket
21. Train in Vain
22. Janie Jones
23. Rudie Can’t Fail
24. White Man in Hammersmith Palais
25. Last Gang in Town
26. Police and Thieves
27. Career Opportunities
28. Should I Stay or Should I Go?
29. Julie’s Been Working for the Drug Squad
30. Somebody Got Murdered
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
Official Top 60 Results:
60. Hate and War - 96 pts - 6 votes 58. (TIE) Car Jamming - 104 pts - 7 votes 58. (TIE) Pressure Drop - 104 pts - 10 votes 57.Ghetto Defendant - 106 pts - 10 votes 56. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - 111 pts - 10 votes 55. Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad - 113 pts - 11 votes 54. Jail Guitar Doors - 122 pts - 11 votes 53. Capital Radio - 124 pts - 7 votes 52. Remote Control - 126 pts - 9 votes 51. Gates of the West - 127 pts - 6 votes - 1 #1 50. 1977 - 131 pts - 10 votes 48. (TIE) Groovy Times - 136 pts - 8 votes 48. (TIE) Jimmy Jazz - 136 points - 8 votes 47. Garageland - 138 pts - 9 votes 46. Wrong 'Em Boyo - 140 pts - 10 votes 45. Charlie Don't Surf - 142 pts - 12 votes 44. What's My Name - 145 pts - 10 votes 43. This is England - 148 pts - 10 votes 42. The Prisoner - 151 pts - 8 votes 41. Hitsville U.K. - 157 pts - 12 votes
40. The Street Parade - 162 pts - 8 votes - 1 #1 39. The Right Profile - 168 pts - 8 votes - 2 #1 38. Lose This Skin - 173 pts - 9 votes - 1 #1 37. Washington Bullets - 174 pts - 10 votes 36. Brand New Cadillac - 190 pts - 8 votes 35. London's Burning - 220 pts - 14 votes34. I'm Not Down - 226 pts - 15 votes 33. Clash City Rockers - 277 pts - 18 votes 32. The Card Cheat - 278 pts - 15 votes - 1 #1 31. Should I Stay or Should I Go - 280 pts - 19 votes 30. The Call Up - 290 pts - 19 votes 29. Tommy Gun - 291 pts - 17 votes - 2 #1 28. Hateful - 298 pts - 15 votes 27. Stay Free - 299 pts - 17 votes - 1 #1 26. Know Your Rights - 310 pts - 19 votes 25. Somebody Got Murdered - 325 pts - 24 votes 24. Armagideon Time/Justice Tonight/Kick It Over - 339 pts - 17 votes - 3 #1 23. Death or Glory - 356 pts - 24 votes - 1 #1 22. I'm So Bored with the U.S.A. - 369 pts - 19 votes - 1 #1 21. Police and Thieves - 396 pts - 23 votes - 1 #1
20. Bankrobber/Robberdub - 399 pts - 21 votes - 1 #119. Career Opportunities - 406 pts - 26 votes18. Rock the Casbah - 441 pts - 25 votes17. This is Radio Clash - 463 pts - 23 votes - 1 #116. Lost in the Supermarket - 465 pts - 25 votes15. Spanish Bombs - 476 pts - 26 votes14. London Calling - 477 pts - 27 votes - 2 #113. White Riot - 494 pts - 29 votes12. Clampdown - 521 pts - 25 votes - 1 #111. I Fought the Law - 522 pts - 23 votes10. The Guns of Brixton - 540 pts - 24 votes - 1 #19. Police on My Back - 541 pts - 26 votes - 1 #18. The Magnificent Seven - 548 pts - 28 votes - 1 #17. Rudie Can't Fail - 564 pts - 28 votes - 2 #16. Train in Vain - 568 pts - 27 votes - 2 #15. Safe European Home - 658 pts - 29 votes - 3 #14. Janie Jones - 662 pts - 23 votes3. Straight to Hell - 687 pts - 34 votes2. Complete Control - 924 pts - 34 votes - 7 #11. (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - 999 pts - 37 votes - 3 #1
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
Will post all trax later on, but it'll take some excel sheet cleaning up.
Thanks for taking part in this, everyone! It was a lot of fun!
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
It was great work, I loved it
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
"Complete Control" graphic is perfect! Thanks, Gukbe!
xp: "Straight to Hell" was a big deal to Clash fans right away, I think. Besides being a live staple and on SNL and a single, it was kind of a sadder flipside to "Born in the U.S.A." during the right years to be that.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
1. The Card Cheat2. I Fought the Law3. Train in Vain4. Bankrobber5. (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais6. London’s Burning7. Rudie Can’t Fail8. Janie Jones9. Complete Control10. Lose This Skin11. Garageland12. Koka Kola13. Clampdown14. White Riot15. Straight to Hell16. Jimmy Jazz17. Death or Glory18. Jail Guitar Doors19. Career Opportunities20. Wrong ‘em Boyo21. Lost in the Supermarket22. The Sound of the Sinners 23. Spanish Bombs24. Police and Thieves25. Charlie Don't Surf26. Police on My Back27. One More Time28. Hitsville UK29. I’m So Bored with the USA30. The Right Profile
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
pretty down with these results!
Complete ControlWhite Man in Hammersmith PalaisThis is EnglandLost in the SupermarketCareer OpportunitiesStraight to HellDeath or GlorySafe European HomeClash City RockersPolice & ThievesI Fought the LawRock the CasbahRemote ControlJulie's Been Working For The Drug SquadTrain In VainSomebody Got Murdered1977Spanish BombsTommy GunJimmy JazzThe Prisoner
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
1 Complete Control 2 Safe European Home 3 Clampdown 4 Rudie Can't Fail 5 London Calling 6 Hateful 7 Janie Jones 8 Four Horsemen9 The Card Cheat 10 The Call Up 11 (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais 12 Tommy Gun 13 Train in Vain (Stand by Me) 14 Cheapskates15 All The Young Punks (New Boots And Contracts)16 The Guns of Brixton 17 Last Gang In Town18 Guns On The Roof19 The Magnificient Seven 20 Lost in the Supermarket 21 Julie's In The Drug Squad 22 I'm So Bored with the U.S.A. 23 Remote Control 24 Stay Free 25 The City of the Dead26 Clash City Rockers 27 Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) 28 Career Opportunities 29 Capital Radio 30 Koka Kola
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
greil marcus once called 'complete control' the greatest rock'n'roll recording of all time. i know it's greil marcus and he's probably said that about 90 other songs, but that's the one he was right about.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
Great poll and rollout, Gukbe -- thanks for running this one! I'm pretty happy with the top two finishers, as they were both in my top 5.
1. Broadway2. Complete Control3. Hitsville UK4. (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais5. White Riot6. Rock the Casbah7. I’m So Bored With the U.S.A.8. Armagideon Time9. Sean Flynn10. The Guns of Brixton11. Bankrobber12. The Street Parade13. The Prisoner14. Washington Bullets15. Pressure Drop16. Death is a Star17. The Crooked Beat18. Lightning Strikes (Not Once But Twice)19. Car Jamming20. Know Your Rights21. Should I Stay or Should I Go?22. Atom Tan23. Career Opportunities24. City of the Dead25. Let's Go Crazy26. The Magnificent Seven27. Overpowered By Funk28. Police & Thieves29. Straight to Hell30. Train in Vain
ALBUMS:Sandinista!Combat RockThe Clash (U.S. version)London CallingBlack Market Clash
― schlock corridor (WilliamC), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah, my albums:
The Clash (U.S.)London CallingSuper Black Market ClashGive 'Em Enough RopeFrom Here to Eternity
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
Great work Gukbe! Love the images. Can't argue with the #1 even though it beat my personal favourite.
My ballot:
Complete ControlI'm So Bored With the USASomebody Got MurderedStraight to HellCorner SoulSpanish Bombs(White Man) in Hammersmith PalaisWhat's My NameSafe European HomeLondon's BurningUp in Heaven (Not Only Here)Rudie Can't FailHate and WarDenyThe Card CheatClash City RockersCareer OpportunitiesSomething About EnglandLost in the SupermarketJanie JonesRemote ControlI'm Not DownLose This SkinRebel WaltzArmagideon TimeGhetto DefendantWhite RiotLondon CallingPolice on My BackIvan Meets G.I. Joe
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
I put Right Profile at #1 in the vain hope that a song about Montgomery Clift MIGHT make the countdown, but alas
;_;
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
^^It made it! #39!
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
I'm the all-night drug prowling wolf!
― campreverb, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
Here's the ballot of an extremely casual fan:
Tommy GunTrain In VainStraight To HellLondon CallingPolice On My BackThe Magnificent SevenLost In The SupermarketWrong ‘Em BoyoLast Gang In TownMensforth HillJanie JonesSomebody Got MurderedIvan Meets G.I. Joe1977Stay FreeCapital Radio TwoCheapskatesWhite RiotThe Guns of BrixtonThe City of the DeadSafe European HomeThe LeaderRock The CasbahListenShould I Stay Or Should I GoDeath or GloryJail Guitar DoorsLover’s RockOverpowered By FunkFour Horsemen
― king of steens (some dude), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
1) Safe European Home2) Police on my Back3) (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais4) Career Opportunities5) White Riot6) I'm Not Down7) Janie Jones8) Lost in the Supermarket9) Clampdown10) Rudie Can't Fail11) Spanish Bombs12) I Fought the Law13) Tommy Gun14) London's Burning15) Complete Control16) Clash City Rockers17) Rock The Casbah18) Pressure Drop19) Police & Thieves20) Stay Free21) Hateful22) Somebody Got Murdered23) This Is Radio Clash24) Should I Stay Or Should I Go?25) London Calling26) English Civil War27) The Card Cheat28) Train in Vain (Stand by Me)29) Bankrobber30) Remote Control
I think all of mine placed.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:36 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:44 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark
yah. the image is of Clift's wrecked car.
Also the Washington Bullets image is of Victor Java.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
lol I missed it! HOORAY
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
So happy to see the SEH #1 placings
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link
Victor Jara
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
good poll, great job gubke! shout out to the clash as well, you guys done ok
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 July 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
D'oh xpost
― Gukbe, Thursday, 18 July 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
MY BALLOT:
1. Stay Free2. Janie Jones3. White Man In Hammersmith Palais4. 19775. White Riot6. Safe European Home7. Guns on the Roof8. All the Young Punks9. Train In Vain10. Armagideon Time11. Bankrobber12. Remote Control13. The Magnificent Seven14. Jail Guitar Doors15. Hate and War16. Atom Tan17. The City of the Dead18. Clash City Rockers19. I’m So Bored with the USA20. I’m not down21. Julie’s Been Working for the Drug Squad22. Gates of the West23. London Calling24. Rock the Casbah25. Hitsville UK26. Straight To Hell27. Rudy Can’t Fail28. Spanish Bombs29. The Prisoner30. I Fought the Law
ALBUMS:
1. Give Em Enough Rope2. The Clash (US version)3. The Clash (UK version)4. London Calling5. Sandinista
― A bee in her hair. (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Thursday, 18 July 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link
Tracks:
1. The Right Profile2. Clampdown3. I'm So Bored With The USA4. English Civil War5. Rudie Can't Fail6. (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais7. Midnight Log8. Complete Control9. Janie Jones10. Lose This Skin11. Straight To Hell12. Clash City Rockers13. What's My Name14. I Fought The Law15. Stay Free16. The Call Up17. Julie's Been Working For The Drug Squad18. Death or glory19. Know Your Rights20. Jail Guitar Doors21. The Equaliser22. Police and Thieves23. Wrong 'Em Boyo24. Junco Partner25. Something About England26. Protex Blue27. 48 Hours28. This Is England29. Rock The Casbah30. Broadway
Albums:
1. The Clash (US)2. Sandinista!3. London Calling4. Super Black Market Clash5. Give 'Em Enough Rope
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
Here is my ballot (with bonus Simonon because aaggggh I have to get it out of my system)
1. The Right Profile2. Guns of Brixton3. Safe European Home4. Rudie Can't Fail5. Hateful6. Janie Jones7. Know Your Rights8. White Man in Hammersmith Palais9. Police and Thieves10. Career Opportunities11. Armagideon Time12. White Riot13. I Fought the Law14. Julie’s Been Working For The Drug Squad15. Tommy Gun16. London's Burning17. Complete Control18. Lover's Rock19. All The Young Punks20. Police on My Back21. I'm So Bored With The USA22. Spanish Bombs23. Magnificent Seven24. Bankrobber25. This Is Radio Clash26. Rock The Casbah27. Pressure Drop (Clash On Broadway)28. London Calling29. Train in Vain30. Straight To Hell
http://marshallmatlock.com/wp-content/gallery/the-mans-man-xxxiv-paul-simonon/the%20clash%20paul%20simonon%20bathroom%20mirror.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/27f289df5326743f7ef134eca9e8a795/tumblr_mpqi13TUgz1qlwkcqo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/b174b7122f22c0752091c727d5ad6b06/tumblr_mouj03zmje1qlwkcqo1_500.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 July 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link
not ecstatic about my ballot but am happy "bankrobber" was my no. 1. such a freaking amazing (and unusual) tune for a band that was still considered "punk" in 1978. thank you poll operator!
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 18 July 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link
Totally surprised about the top ten! Whoever said this poll would have the widest spread of #1s was OTM. Here's me list:
ALBUMS
1 Combat Rock2 Black Market Clash3 Sandinista4 London Calling5 S/T (UK)
SONGS
1 Radio Clash2 Magnificent Seven3 Know Your Rights4 The Call Up5 Cool Confusion6 London Calling7 Version City8 What's My Name9 Hateful10 First Night Back in London11 Rock the Casbah12 Career Opportunities13 Armagideon Time14 I Fought the Law15 I'm So Bored with the USA16 Rudie Can't Fail17 Should I Stay or Should I Go18 Atom Tan19 Up in Heaven20 Guns of Brixton21 Clampdown22 Safe European Home23 The Leader24 White Man in the Hammersmith Palais25 Koka Kola26 Long Time Jerk27 Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad28 Four Horsemen29 Lightning Strikes30 Death is a Star
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Thursday, 18 July 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
Missed the final roll-out, but I can't complain about the results. Who could, really? You could reorder the top 20 any way you wanted and I wouldn't bitch too much. My 1-2 was Rudie Can't Fail and White Man, both of which for me fall into that small category of songs so perfect and so disorderly that I can't quite believe human beings made them happen on purpose. Which is pretty much how I feel about their music as a whole.
Rudie Can't FailWhite Man in the Hammersmith PalaisSafe European HomeCar JammingI'm So Bored With the USAThis Is Radio ClashStay FreeThe Guns of BrixtonTrain in VainPolice and ThievesThe PrisonerClash City RockersShould I Stay or Should I Go?This Is EnglandStraight to HellPolice On My BackFour HorsemenHatefulComplete ControlThe Magnificent SevenJulie's Been Working for the Drug SquadSpanish Bombs The Card CheatThe Sound of the SinnersGhetto DefendantHitsville U.K.Wrong Em BoyoBankrobber/Robber DubLost in the Supermarket Remote Control
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 July 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah and HUGE thank yous to Gukbe for running the poll and for the rad images, awesome job dude!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 July 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link
Top albums:1) Combat Rock2) Sandinista3) London Calling4) The Clash5) Give 'Em Enough Rope
Top Tracks:1) Train in Vain2) Straight to Hell 3) This is Radio Clash4) The Magnificent Seven5) Guns of Brixton6) Stay Free7) Remote Control8) Rock the Casbah9) Know Your Rights10) Lost in the Supermarket11) I'm Not Down12) Charlie Don't Surf13) Police and Thieves14) Safe European Home15) London Calling16) Inoculated City17) Gates of the West18) Rebel Waltz19) All the Young Punks20) Janie Jones21) Somebody Got Murdered22) White Riot23) Should I Stay or Should I Go24) The Call Up25) Death or Glory26) Cheapskate27) Pressure Drop28) Lightning Strikes (Not Once But Twice)29) Long Time Jerk30) Career Opportunities
Great poll and rollout.
― Austin, Thursday, 18 July 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, thanks for the poll! Lots of fun.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 July 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link
The poll is righter than my ballot about Give 'Em Enough Rope, which you've rekindled my love for even if it pales next to everything else for me. But then the poll leaves out "The Crooked Beat":
Ballot Part One - Top 30 Clash songs (ranked):
The Street ParadeThis Is Radio ClashJanie JonesLondon CallingStraight to Hell(White Man) In Hammersmith PalaisBroadwayLost in the SupermarketRock the CasbahThe Magnificent SevenThe Guns of BrixtonArmagideon TimeThe Crooked BeatHate & WarGhetto DefendantSomething About EnglandSean FlynnCareer OpportunitiesSomebody Got MurderedDeath or GloryI'm So Bored with the U.S.A.Complete ControlPolice & ThievesClampdownBank RobberRudie Can't FailHatefulCorner SoulWhite RiotKill Time
Ballot Part Two - Top 4 Clash Albums (ranked)
Sandinista!The Clash (UK version)London CallingCombat Rock
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 18 July 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link
I'm bummed I couldn't follow this poll in real time. Many thanks to Mr. Gukbe for running it. It will always hold a special place in the Shepherd's Delight of my heart.
Here is my ballot:
Complete ControlDeath Or GloryJanie JonesHatefulSafe European HomeThe Card CheatSomebody Got MurderedThe Street ParadeLost In The SupermarketSpanish BombsGroovy TimesUp In Heaven (Not Only Here)(White Man) In Hammersmith PalaisLondon CallingFour HorsemenI’m Not DownTrain In VainThe PrisonerBankrobberCar JammingShould I Stay Or Should I Go?Police On My BackBroadwayTommy GunPressure DropSomething About EnglandOne More TimeRock The CasbahStay FreeCharlie Don’t Surf
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 18 July 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah, The Equalizer wuz robbed! We don't need no gang boss!!!!!!!
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 18 July 2013 04:05 (ten years ago) link
The Equaliser->Call Up transition is A+. subsiding laughs into the alarm sounds.
Thought "Broadway" would do better tbh.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 18 July 2013 04:10 (ten years ago) link
most regret not voting for 'the right profile.'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 July 2013 06:14 (ten years ago) link
That's a weird ass top ten.
― Moka, Thursday, 18 July 2013 06:41 (ten years ago) link
I'm So Bored with the USAComplete Control(White Man) In Hammersmith PalaisStraight to HellLost in the SupermarketPolice & ThievesJimmy JazzRock the CasbahShould I Stay or Should I GoRudie Can't FailWhite RiotLondon's BurningRemote ControlSpanish BombsI Fought the LawClash City RockersHatefulDeath or GloryClampdownGaragelandJanie JonesThe Card CheatThe Magnificent SevenSafe European HomeSomebody Got MurderedJunco Partner1977Lose This SkinPressure DropGuns of Brixton
― Euler, Thursday, 18 July 2013 07:42 (ten years ago) link
My ballot. On my old cassette "copy" (from the vinyl) of Sandinista, I sequenced Maria Gallagher becoming tired of singing straight into the intro of "Police On My Back", hence the ordering below. So I'm quietly satisfied that the official results also (sort of) back this up.
01. Armagideon Time02. Complete Control 03. Police on My Back04. The Guns of Brixton (Sandinista! version)05. This Is Radio Clash06. I Fought the Law07. Bankrobber08. Capital Radio 09. London Calling10. Janie Jones
11. White Riot 12. Junco Partner / Version Pardner13. (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais14. Junkie Slip15. Somebody Got Murdered16. The Call Up17. Police & Thieves18. The Magnificent Seven19. Rock the Casbah20. 1977
21. Train in Vain22. Charlie Don't Surf23. Straight To Hell24. Corner Soul25. Look Here26. London's Burning 27. Career Opportunities (Sandinista! version)28. I'm So Bored with the USA29. Ivan Meets G.I. Joe30. Hitsville U.K.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link
That must be the least London Calling ballot in this thing
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link
Never heard it, is why.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link
it's alright
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link
Big thanks for this, this poll has meant I've spent the last 2 weeks with the Clash, which is great.
since everyone's posting their lists, I'll jump in-I guess I love their covers, I have 3 in my top 10. I guess the surprise for me is all the antipathy towards 'Should I Stay', though I think for me and other voters Combat Rock has aged well. A lot of talk about that album, but I remember pretty clearly at the time it was no secret that it was probably the last Clash album, and probably viewed more as a last gasp than a sell-out. Anyway, my top 10.
1 (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais 2 Train in Vain (Stand by Me)3 I Fought the Law 4 Brand New Cadillac5 Police & Thieves 6 Should I Stay or Should I Go 7 Rudie Can't Fail 8 London Calling 9 Straight to Hell 10 Complete Control
― campreverb, Thursday, 18 July 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
ClampdownComplete ControlI Fought The LawClash City RockersI'm So Bored With The U.S.A.This Is Radio Clash(White Man) In Hammersmith PalaisBrand New CadillacRudie Can't FailWhite Riot (single/US debut version)London CallingWashington BulletsThe Magnificent SevenTrain In VainCareer OpportunitiesSpanish Bombs1977Jail Guitar DoorsLightning Strikes (Not Once But Twice)Straight To HellLost In The SupermarketSafe European HomeRock The CasbahI'm Not DownSomebody Got MurderedKnow Your RightsKingston AdviceThe Call UpAtom TanUp In Heaven (Not Only Here)
top live:
1. Clampdown (official video...can't find info on where/when it was filmed, though)2. I'm So Bored With The U.S.A. (Chicago, 9/14/79)3. Capital Radio (From Here To Eternity)4. London's Burning (fhte)5. Train In Vain (fhte)
albums:
1. The Clash (US)2. London Calling3. Sandinista!4. Combat Rock5. Give 'Em Enough Rope
Thanks for doing this, Gukbe! Great rollout!
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 July 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
hey gukbe, no rush obviously, but i hope you are still intending to post the full list of trax and votes. thx!
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 19 July 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
I'm glad there was so much Topper appreciation in the pre- and poll discussion. Sort of a cliche to say he's underrated, and maybe that's not even true anymore. But these days when I listen to the Clash (at least, to anything from the Topper era), I find myself listening to the drums as much as anything.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 19 July 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
Topper's beats on the Bonds version of Street Parade at the top of the thread were really doing it for me this morning
― bendy, Friday, 19 July 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
I was listening to Combat Rock this morning and holy fuck, he came up with some bizarre/brilliant parts ("Red Angel Dragnet," "Straight To Hell").
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 July 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, July 19, 2013 9:30 AM (1 week ago)
^^^
― schlock corridor (WilliamC), Friday, 26 July 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
^^^^^
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 11:06 (ten years ago) link
BBC's Front Row, half-hour special:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037vb11
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
Consider this a bump for the full list of trax and votes and to ask if any of you are buying the super overpriced Sound System box. I've been listening to the remasters and they did an amazing job. But I don't have $200. I am gonna plonk down for the 5 album set, but it's missing all the crucial singles including our poll winner. Argh. Wish they would have included the single A-Sides at least in that lower end box but no such luck.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link
I'm still annoyed there's no proper live album from the classic lineup. It's like they included those 3 songs from the Lyceum show just to taunt me.
As for the remasters themselves, I only listened to self-titled and the Cost of Living EP. Self-titled was hugely improved. Harder to spot any changes on Cost of Living.
― kaleb, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link
On headphones the details pop like a motherfucker. I checked versus the 90s remasters and it's pretty easy to hear the improvement all through the catalog.
I agree on the live stuff. This quote Mick gave Rolling Stone breaks my heart:
There's not a ton of live music on this set. Are you thinking about releasing more Clash concerts in the future?Not really. Years ago, before even the Internet, there were places where you could send off blank tapes and get nearly every concert. This fantastic exchange was going on. They wouldn't even charge you money. I know fans want to get their hands on everything, but it's already out there. So there's no plans to release any concerts now. I'm not even thinking about any more Clash releases. This is it for me, and I say that with an exclamation mark.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
That's such a PR circuit quote that I don't lend it much credibility.
― kaleb, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link
Hmmmm. I believe it.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:11 (ten years ago) link
So, the 'albums only' set has LC and S as 2 and 3 cd sets respectively
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:13 (ten years ago) link
.. And you can get it for £30 or thereabouts.
So, 3cds of rarities, a DVD, and a whole bunch of silly will cost you an additional £70 up.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:15 (ten years ago) link
(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - 999 37 3Complete Control - 924 34 7Straight to Hell - 687 34 Janie Jones - 662 23 Safe European Home - 658 29 3Train in Vain - 568 27 2Rudie Can't Fail - 564 28 2The Magnificent Seven - 548 28 1Police on My Back - 541 26 1Guns of Brixton - 540 24 1I Fought the Law - 522 23 Clampdown - 521 25 1White Riot - 494 29 London Calling - 477 27 2Spanish Bombs - 476 26 Lost in the Supermarket - 465 25 This is Radio Clash - 463 23 1Rock the Casbah - 441 25 Career Opportunities - 406 26 Bankrobber - 399 21 1Police & Thieves - 396 23 1I'm So Bored with the USA - 369 19 1Death or Glory - 356 24 1Armagideon Time - (2 for Justice Tonight/36) 339 17 3Somebody Got Murdered - 325 24 Know Your Rights - 310 19 Stay Free - 299 17 1Hateful - 298 15 Tommy Gun - 291 17 2The Call Up - 290 19 Should I Stay or Should I Go - 280 19 The Card Cheat - 278 15 1Clash City Rockers - 277 18 I'm Not Down - 226 15 London's Burning - 220 14 Brand New Cadillac - 190 8 Washington Bullets - 174 10 Lose this Skin - 173 9 1The Right Profile - 168 8 2The Street Parade - 162 8 1Hitsville UK - 157 12 The Prisoner - 151 8 This is England - 148 10 What's My Name - 145 10 Charlie Don't Surf - 142 12 Wrong 'Em Boyo - 140 10 Garageland - 138 9 Jimmy Jazz - 136 8 Groovy Times - 136 8 1977 - 131 10 Gates of the West - 127 6 1Remote Control - 126 9 Capital Radio - (one = 50 two= 74) 124 7 Jail Guitar Doors - 122 11 Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad - 113 11 Up in Heaven (Not Only Here) - 111 10 Ghetto Defendant - 106 10 Pressure Drop - 104 10 Car Jamming - 104 7 Hate and War - 96 6 The City of the Dead - 94 8 Rebel Waltz - 92 6 English Civil War - 90 5 All the Young Punks - 88 6 Broadway - 87 6 1Revolution Rock - 82 2 Cheapskates - 81 6 Sean Flynn - 78 5 One More Time - 76 6 Four Horsemen - 74 6 Last Gang in Town - 71 4 Sound of Sinners - 70 6 The Equaliser - 69 4 Ivan Meets GI Joe - 64 5 Koka Kola - 61 5 Junco Partner - 61 6 The Leader - 59 3 Corner Soul - 58 5 The Cool Out - 53 3 1Something About England - 53 6 Lightning Strikes (Not Once but Twice) - 48 6Inoculated City - 48 3Deny - 44 3Protex Blue - 35 4The Crooked Beat - 34 2Death is a Star - 33 3Guns on the Roof - 32 3Overpowered by Funk - 30 4Guns of Brixton (Sandanista) - 30 1Lover's Rock - 29 3Cool Confusion - 28 1Atom Tan - 27 3Let's Go Crazy - 26 3Version City - 25 1Midnight Log - 25 1In the Pouring Rain - 24 2Mensforth Hill - 22 1First Night Back in London - 22 1Junkie Slip - 20 2Mustapha Dance - 18 1Midnight to Stevens - 15 1Career Opportunities (Sandanista) = 12 2Long Time Jerk - 9 2Listen - 8 1We are the Clash - 7 1Look Here - 7 1The Magnificent Dance - 5 1Kingston Advice - 5 1How Can I Understand the Flies? - 5 148 Hours - 5 1Time is Tight - 3 1Shepherd's Delight - 2 1Kill Time - 2 1Drug-Stabbing Time - 2 1
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:48 (ten years ago) link
apologies for the ugly formatting. first number is points, second number of votes, and if there's a third, that's the number of #1s.
thx!
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 10:21 (ten years ago) link
Thanks sir!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
Thanks, gukbe! Cool to see at least one vote for "Mensforth Hill."
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the totals!
On the remasters, did they at least fix the screw-up at the beginning of "Koka Cola" from the last round of reissues? I'm one of those oddballs who thinks the circa-'99 remaster of London Calling was bad all around--the first try was much closer to the record.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
I've read that the bell no longer sounds all goofy (as it did on the "legacy edition"), and the elevator sound is back.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
Yes. It's fixed.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
I wanna note that this poll inspired me to finally pick up a vinyl copy of Give 'Em Enough Rope to replace the one I traded in maybe 25 years ago. Much better than I remembered!
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
Tell you what, I'd forgotten how great the 'Capital Radio' remake is!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link
There's a documentary that was produced to coincide with the box set. Not revelatory so far, but nice to see the guys together:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16-WktpcHpI
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
Mick and Paul are on reddit answering some questions. Some of these redditors make some lame questions so if you have an actual Clash fan question you want answered here you go:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1msew6/this_is_mick_and_paul_from_the_clash_ask_us/
― Moka, Friday, 20 September 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
For the holidays, a two-hour This Is Radio Clash program, with bizarre Bernie Rhodes cameos in Chipmunks speed.http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03mjl04
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 26 December 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
I still can't stand a certain minor chart hit.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 11:33 (six years ago) link
if memory serves it was a major chart hit over here and yeah it is crushingly dull
― another day another dolour (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link
Phony Clashmania has bitten the dust!.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 10:40 (five years ago) link
Nice work! But it's Safe European Home, not Homes
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link
it's the Sumner-ite in me.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link
Ha!
Where would you put Black Market Clash? That was a big one for me, the record (or more accurately, $5.98 cassette) that made me an obsessive. They padded it out for the CD era as Super Black Market Clash, which inexplicably replaced the original Bankrobber with a dub version that goes on twice as long, but it half as good.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link
just scanned through the results thread and I have no idea what I would've picked for #1 (this poll pre-dated my ILM posting by a few months--pretty sure I registered to ILM so I could vote in the Elvis Costello poll)--there were at least 12 candidates just looking at the songs that made the list
― nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link
inexplicably replaced the original Bankrobber with a dub version that goes on twice as long, but it half as good.
it's explicable! and also the original Black Market Clash edited Bankrobber and Robber Dub together, so the Super version is the one that's half as long.
― Ah, the minty egg bits (sic), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
I bought the triple 10" version, that's a different thing!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
how so? https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Black-Market-Clash/release/103078 vs https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Black-Market-Clash/release/2987143
― Stab my hinge, get hit (sic), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link
I had never seen that before. It adds the tracks that were left off the US debut.
https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Super-Black-Market-Clash/release/420020
― Freddy "Boom Boom" QAnon (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link
Yes, side one is those tracks, plus "Listen" without the interview, which are all from those sessions.
Two = b-side tracks from "give them enough rope" era
three = the "Cost of Living" e.p. without "I fought the law" and the "ad" but with "Time Is Tight" instead.
four = Armagideon Time 12" dubs and Bankrobber dub
five = Mostly "Combat Rock" b-sides along with "Cool Out"
Six = Whatever's left: Casbah Dub / Mag7 dub / "This Is Radio Clash" (the a-side?)
So, basically pick yr side, it's like having 6 ep's
― Mark G, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
oh derp, I missed "triple"
― Stab my hinge, get hit (sic), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link