blood orange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfZMvTHJLUs

#buzzbands #solange

#blood #orange

this song is good (altho it just makes me wanna listen to liberian girl again) but i wasn't really feeling the few others i've heard from the album. there's something about him as a performer that is not clicking with me.

they like mansun

i like this album. songwriting could definitely be stronger but it's a good listen.

i like it i feel like hes very deep into his thing

def see how the pastiche is a total turn off for some ppl but i think it's fun

v disappointed in some dude for omitting the #hipsterrnb tag tho

riot hipsterr

this is my fave thing about this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_Icicles

In February 2006, the band announced they were splitting up.[1] In an interview with NME in March 2006, Hynes claimed that "We were never, ever that keen on the music. I understand that people liked it, but we personally, er, didn't.".

Haha! We had that in common, I guess.

lol xp

@Jordan, what is this a pastiche of, do you think? I'm hearing influences but it doesn't seem like a straight rip of anything.

ILM r&b crew hates this guy iirc

i recall them liking that solange song but maybe it wasnt them it was those outside the crew

ha omg i did a search for blood orange before starting this thread but wow i just searched for dev hynes and lol wow i think you might be right

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson) wrote this on thread itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b on board I Love Music on Nov 19, 2013

no time in this life for dev hynes

J0rdan S. wrote this on thread Those NME "momentous announcements" on board I Love Music on Apr 23, 2008

12. Dev Hynes (Lightspeed Champion)

^^this one is the worst by far

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA) wrote this on thread ask dextor ellis bextor, lead singer of the new hot band THE VALENTINES with their NEW HIT SINGLE 'SHE'S GOT NOISE' out in JULY/AUGUST on NORMAN RECORDS on board I Love Music on May 21, 2012

Speaking of Test Icicles, how come Dev Hynes is still having records released?

moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva) wrote this on thread ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2012 on board I Love Music on Jan 24, 2013

literally had no idea dev hynes was a thing post test icicles

dyl wrote this on thread R&B 2013 on board I Love Music on Jul 19, 2013

dev hynes is involved in some way in case anyone wants to suddenly decide they don't like it based on that

monotony wrote this on thread thread for pics of Drake looking ridiculous on board I Love Music on Aug 6, 2013

first thought: "wait now DRAKE is working with dev hynes???!!!"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson) wrote this on thread SKY FERREIRA on board I Love Music on Oct 9, 2013

pretty sure there will be no dev hynes on this album at all

yessssssss

I don't even know wtf this band sounds like I'm just trollin (fffv) wrote this on thread SOLANGE KNOWLES, omg the return of on board I Love Music on Oct 2, 2012

after this and "Everything Is Embarrassing" I kind of want Dev Hynes to write all of the pop songs. which is so weird.

boss & toss (lou) wrote this on thread ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2012 on board I Love Music on Jan 24, 2013

dev hynes needs a lifetime ban from music

yesss

had the misfortune of seeing him perform and it was unbearable. literally had to leave.

lex pretend wrote this on thread ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2012 on board I Love Music on Jan 24, 2013

i like "everything is embarrassing" a lot despite dev hynes. sky ferreira is an incredibly charismatic performer despite not having much in the way of actual killer tunes yet and in general it's a pretty real song

i did the same search when i was tempted to start this exact thread like 5 weeks ago

ahahaha

I'm on the record as liking some songs by this guy so I'll double down and say that Chamaky rules

eagerly awaiting the haters

The other song I like is Champagne Coast

Does he have a new album out

yes.

this is the song off the last album that gets played in clothing stores at the mall now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvbOWR-Zvdg

what if cupid deluxe has a deluxe edition

The other song I like is Champagne Coast

the video for this with the rei ayanami and sailor mars posters was p lol

is he the first guy to be chillwave and hipster rnb

i always hear this guys music in stores that sell expensive but not like really expensive clothes

lmao that is a p good archive of dev hynes hate

I think a friend of a friend was involved in the shooting of that vid! xp

Feel like if you bought this dude's CD there would be a sticker on it that said "For fans of INC.!"

dreamnb was the new chillwave for a bit i think

Dude is horrible

What's up dude haven't seen you around in a while

Blood snorange

hey now were all reasonable people here

btw sup lamp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1mgtY86bCU

Comments are disabled for this video.

i like this guy he is funny and cool

he wrote/produced that sky ferreria song that was an ILM fave last year

gr8080 why are there so many new replies to the HAIM thread? did you like that record? is it better or worse than blood orange?

1) they were on SNL this past weekend
2) yes
3) i think its better than blood orange but i think its less your style than blood orange

also that video was lol

I think a friend of a friend was involved in the shooting of that vid!

haha i know one of the girls in it iirc. p much in love w/ it btw wish more ppl were doing dirtbag verz of danny lopes art school artificial video series

http://www.thefader.com/2013/11/19/blood-orange-hitting-the-right-notes

http://cdn.thefader.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/F89_FEATURE_SHEA_01.jpg

can i just say gluten free bread is total garbage, dont make me any of those crappy sandwiches

otm

why fuck w imitation food is how i break it down, just dont eat bread

I haven't heard Blood Orange but I am arrandbey kru and I have nothing against this guy other than that terrible Solange song. I haven't really followed him that closely (never heard Test Icicles or Lightspeed Champion) tbh. This is one of my fave songs this year and he was involved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4NlOCTD3U

terrible artist terrible album thank god solange has broken with him maybe she'll make good music again now

Thank god the lex finally showed up. Now let's move on. Is the new album any good

No, IMO, and this coming from someone that likes "the way", "everything is embarrassing", "losing you", and "chamakay" (mostly b/c of caroline polachek)

its pretty cool

i think i like coastal grooves better, need to listen to this a few more times

I like the other Test Icicles guy Sam Mereigne's stuff, fucked up ultra lofi early James Ferraro

yeah it's kinda meant to be suggestive of this bleary, droning, numbed torpid mumblecore inarticulacy indicating longing and heartache beyond words or whatever. simple is real cos of ~how hard it is to feel things~, to be decisive and put a fine point on it is too painful if not even by implication dishonest. the whole thing's of a piece, you got the washed out instagrammed visuals, the 80s comfort blanket for the emotional foetal position... blah blah the familiar prepack set of lies agreed upon

it's all v boring

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:11 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rtc re: "losing you" the real deathblow obv

http://i.imgur.com/I47L9JV.gif

masturbating at a party through smoke

aka 'the real deathblow'

a dj

if you will

a deej

so hard to feel things

where is this going? i'll get me coat

so hard to feel things or some things feel so hard

actual lol @ dalston party-goer and baggy sweater aficionado rtc

how hard it is to feel things, presumably

― r|t|c, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:38 PM (Yesterday)

lol thank you for checking out the course reader

war correspondent ≠ soldier iirc ;)

tbh if we're pulling irl full disclosure cards the perp had a thing with a girl i knew circa 05 so we were on passing terms for a bit... he was totally full to the absolute brim of shit but laying down more pipe than thames water as a result so can't knock the hustle i guess. (eagerly await now being told i'm butthurt because jel obv)

lol at feeling strongly enough about him either way to be throwing up wanker signs tbh, it's just just kinda ambiguous referential apologetically-shuffling-off-this-mortal-coil slop for ppl too daunted by the world to find art in it

Can we all agree that Circle, Square, Triangle by Test Icicles is still a legit 10/10 banger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-a6OeX0xFs

per 乒乓 i thought this mix was quite a sweet fit tho

just to build on that earlier point, i mean i was gonna say this on the sky f thread but i'm p cool with having a flavour of circumspect disposable devdom as part of a balanced diet... it's a question of degrees though and if you begin to self-identify with it in an oppositional rather than complementary sense (so like believing the sky album an everlasting best of 2013 classic etc) then it does get to a pop-not-indie shambalalala type personal precious cubbyhole that requires summary clotheslining u feel me

fwiw this guy is a great guitar player!

pop-not-indie shambalalala type personal precious cubbyhole that requires summary clotheslining

gr8s man if u wish to clash me then leave the pussyhole manoeuvres aside and get on with it

sorry i'm just a war correspondent.

cmon what's up buddy, let it all out

u like this artiste, and are butthurt that others do not, is that it. u wanted to start this thread five, five whole weeks ago but u didnt see any kindred spirits around. u feel like u should be lonely, angry, but... it's not... there? u want to tell ppl why this record is meaningful 2 u but it's hard, so hard... why god why it is it so hard... to feel things

lol rtc you're allright

it's too late i'm going to listen to this album now hope ur happy

listen to the last one first imo

this one is better imho

no one be butthurt

rtc is treating this guy like hes just some chillwave but hes p obviously has a lot more observable qualities

I like this. Sort of like a more focused Dam-Funk. (or maybe just more New York -- Dam-Funk's haziness is very West Coast)

i gotta say that fader article has some real spinal tap moments

Sometimes, because of a condition Hynes has called synesthesia, which links the senses of sight and sound in his brain, the city’s noisiness can overwhelm him, especially at crowded bars. But he likes the way the Empire State Building sounds. “It’s a G major ninth up here,” he says, scribbling that fact in a notepad.

ha he sound exhausting but im happy to know hes out there doing his thing being an artist

a lot of musicians do operate on synesthesiac level whether its really a condition or just an approach seeing the colors in music and so forth

recall talking to this guy i knew in passing who worked at the studio where mobb deep were recording maybe hell on earth and he said they would get completely fucked up and pass out head on the mixing board then wake up and start mumbling about colors and how they could see the music and then continue recording

I know synesthesia is a real thing and I'm sure it affects different people to different degrees, but the way reporters always treat it like it's OMG SO AMAZING is funny to me. Like, associating colors or tastes or textures to sounds or shapes or words is not really that hard to understand -- it's a basic tool of poetry, and even of a lot of criticism (e.g. "angular guitars"), it's a normal metaphorical way of talking about sensory experience. I'm sure it operates on a different, more instinctive level for synesthetes, but it does not blow my mind that a certain tone or chord sounds "blue" or "pink" to someone.

it plays into the profiled/profiler dynamic very well is prob what it comes down to

tbf it got what few passing sentences in that piece

No, I know. That's just the second synesthetic artist reference I've seen/heard in the last week (the other was on NPR talking about somebody, I don't remember who). But yeah, it definitely plays into artist profiles in general. You don't hear much about synesthetic bankers.

Think what you're not getting tipsy is that what normally operates at a metaphorical level for non-synesthetes literally operates at a literal level for synesthetes

That's why it's OMG SO AMAZING

DUH

My guess is that there's more like a synesthetic spectrum and we're talking more about degrees of intensity than some on-off switch. But I don't know! I just notice it a lot in feature stories.

i wonder what the color blood orange sounds like to him

it doesnt sound like hes a literal synesthete from the piece tho just kinda speedy, protip anyone can become synesthetic with the right drugs

http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2013/11/14/dev-hynes-delivered-a-stunning-lecture-on-synesthesia-and-musical-composition/

if you took enough of the drugs and got familiar w the experience you could prob train yrself to see sounds w/o the drugs or w/e #drugforums

Googling "synesthetic spectrum" gives me:

Cross-modal correspondences pervade not only several forms of traditional synesthesia but also, importantly, the experiences of individuals typically deemed non-synesthetic (Marks, 1975, 1978; Spence, 2011). Even non-synesthetes perceive high-pitched vs. low-pitched sounds to resemble bright vs. dark colors—the resemblances evident in various tasks of cross-modal comparison (Marks, 1975; Ward et al., 2006). Where music-color synesthetes see brighter colors in high-pitched notes (e.g., “gold, yellow and white moving … like a rippling stream”: Mulvenna and Walsh, 2005; p. 399), people lacking the induced qualia of synesthesia nevertheless recognize cross-modal similarities.

Cross-modal correspondences often reflect alignments between bipolar dimensions, such as higher pitch being associated with greater lightness, greater brightness, higher vertical location, and smaller size (e.g., Karwoski et al., 1942; Wicker, 1968; Marks, 1974, 1989; Ward et al., 2006). Several auditory-visual correspondences reveal themselves in young children (Marks et al., 1987; Mondloch and Maurer, 2004) and infants (Lewkowicz and Turkewitz, 1980; Walker et al., 2010; Haryu and Kajikawa, 2012), as well as in denizens of disparate cultures: Members of a remote, semi-nomadic, preliterate desert-tribe in southern Africa, having virtually no contact with Western culture, nevertheless overwhelmingly matched lighter gray colors to higher-pitched tones—thereby revealing pitch-lightness correspondence (Mulvenna, 2012).

The tendency for non-synesthetes to perceive similarities between experiences in different domains, despite the absence of secondary qualia, has been called “synesthetic thinking” (Karwoski et al., 1942) and “weak synesthesia” (Martino and Marks, 2001), consistent with the notion that cross-modal correspondence reflects general perceptual and cognitive processes. Further, by capitalizing on cross-modal correspondences, synesthesia too presumably capitalizes on these general processes of perception and cognition (e.g., Karwoski et al., 1942; Marks, 1978; Ward et al., 2006).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3783847/

Too much time on ILM

http://i.imgur.com/O70lUTI.png

xp "This collateralized debt obligation is orange," said JP Morgan securities analyst Parker Thornberry, gazing at his iPad. "Credit default swaps are more kind of aquamarine."

lol yes

lol blood avocados too

listening again now

markers have you ever had this

http://i.imgur.com/FoSwZyi.jpg

thoughts?

^big up that

Is there a secrete Vampre Weekend-Blood Orange connection??

no i have not

that is the best sanpel soft drink

the amara one is sweet too

no idea what that word even means

a lot of musicians do operate on synesthesiac level whether its really a condition or just an approach seeing the colors in music and so forth

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:20 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it was less the sentence about having synesthesia (which even if untrue is obv essential the Dev Hynes mystique & ~feeling things~) than the sentence after where he describes the empire state building as being "a G major ninth” which, LOL bullshit

the man has feelings damn

Is there a secrete Vampre Weekend-Blood Orange connection??

― 乒乓, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:30 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fader article says theyre friends, is that why youre asking, all i know

they shd callabo tho vampy the weeknd could use a lil blood orange rawness their new shit is so zzzzz

Why is that bullshit tho. Are you a synesthete

xp!

the fader article says theyre friends, is that why youre asking, all i know

they shd callabo tho vampy the weeknd could use a lil blood orange rawness their new shit is so zzzzz

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:50 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkUQ-OBazbc

obviously i agree that vw are zzz but blood orange should be no one's standard of rawness

i dont think vw are zzz tho just their new album and maybe like sort of their last album, blood orange is obvs p raw tho maybe not standard bearer levels

nothing raw about blood orange

sterile and vague maybe

lol at feeling strongly enough about him either way to be throwing up wanker signs tbh, it's just just kinda ambiguous referential apologetically-shuffling-off-this-mortal-coil slop for ppl too daunted by the world to find art in it

as much as i enjoy yr drip coffee approach to making any sense i dont really get either 'referential' or 'apologetic' from his stuff? i also actually haven't heard that much of it though. 'mewling' is probably the airily disapproving adjective of choice for me though, ~in dreams~

tbh i like/am interested in this dudes dbag art school guy moments more than anything else, partly because it seems so completely unapologetic

otm hes living life

blood orange sanpel is too sweet imo

all the sanpels are too sweet tbh :(

rip youth

Blood orange is supposed to be raw it's a frit

he describes the empire state building as being "a G major ninth”

i can get behind this

nice

or if you meant 'referential' in the sense that his musical progenitors are worn fairly transparently than sure, although how much of that is a condition of living rn is hard to parse, i made the grave mistake of trying to read the HAIM thread last night and it was like eleven hundred posts of critical muggers trying to outdo each other at bludgeoning those young women with forgotten 80s pop moments so i mean, you say you like prince a lot, might as well flaunt it or were in the 'how short was yr skirt that night, young lady' territory anyway

blood orange sanpel is too sweet imo

― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:59 (2 minutes ago)

have u tried this one

http://www.melburyandappleton.co.uk/ekmps/shops/melburyapple/images/san-pellegrino-chinotto-chino-330ml-4387-p.jpg

all the sanpels are too sweet tbh :(

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:59 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reminds me of "white cranberry" juice... no such thing as white cranberries, it's just a version of the juice with a ton more sugar pumped in

(i know there are such thing as blood oranges... but if anything they're more tart than the regs)

i've tried sanpel chinotto but i dont know if thats the same one

italian kids at my jr high used to drink a lot of brio chinotto, i always just assumed it was a weird italian coke

the fader article calls his look early 80s but its so obvs late 80s

san pellis arent good sodas theyre the spelt of bread cmon

What the heck at Sanpel Chino

That looks like some kind of Mountain Dew Code Red Xtreme rebranding

that is my favourite fake cyrillic drink

i need deej to explain why its ok to include that dev has synesthesia but its bullshit that the empire state building would be g maj 9th

xposts

reminds me of "white cranberry" juice... no such thing as white cranberries

lol i always thought this meant they just used unripened cranberries

let's not talk about music theory

Empire state building is this unyielding sheet of a very specific gray that definitely sets it apart from other NYC buildings

IMO

it's obviously d minor. Which is the saddest of all keys, I find.

skryabin >>>>>

dayo i think it would be appropriate for u to try chinotto next time you are in an italian cafe or food store

used to live with two dudes one of whom claimed to be synestheziac & the other thought he was full of shit & would constantly test him to see if his visuals were consistent

lol

jarritos or bust

you guys are making me google shit today

i really liked the solange song but then some friends of mine started liking it waaay too much and so i had to take it down a notch to compensate

dayo i think it would be appropriate for u to try chinotto next time you are in an italian cafe or food store

Okay but only if the cafe or food store was run by an Actual Italian

""I don't like sanpel sodas they're too sweet"

"Here try some jarritos"

used to live with two dudes one of whom claimed to be synestheziac & the other thought he was full of shit & would constantly test him to see if his visuals were consistent

― flopson, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:16 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

― A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:18 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ahahaha

thread feels like it's on pause until r|t|c returns

reminds me of "white cranberry" juice... no such thing as white cranberries, it's just a version of the juice with a ton more sugar pumped in

Cranberries start white, then turn red when they ripen; white cranberries are just unripened cranberries.

blood orange is so not the best sanpel, stop fronting you hipsters

i really liked the solange song but then some friends of mine started liking it waaay too much and so i had to take it down a notch to compensate

― flopson, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:22 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Cranberries start white, then turn red when they ripen; white cranberries are just unripened cranberries.

― monster_xero, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right but they're not a different variety (like blood oranges)

tried to listen to this this week but it just sounds like all bad hipster music of the last however long.

that's not v constructive i accept.

Can't believe ILM likes bad hipster music

I don't even know how to unpick that...

hipster music!!!

*checks to see if rtc has returned*

rhymes with blood orange

lol people waiting for rtc to return and drop some elliptical impressionism on them, i dont really read ilm that much is he some sort of totem for our music critics

He's sort of the hipper, ILM version of LJ

Yes I went there

Already bracing myself for brutalizing rtc riposte. But it was worth it

ha

yolo

he is a reliable weathervane & sits at the nodal pt of many internal ilx disagreements

would go with Tim Finneys's id set loose, lj isn't really as sharp or focused

he's the best tho

year after year have i waited for the lj zing... finally my redeemer has come [fades away]

Tim Finney w/ a leaner, more ascetic personal aesthetic

lol xp

deej it took a few years but you finally found a jock you enjoy riding as much as you did ethan's

i'm happy for u man

i mean srsly tho can u guys not talk amongst yourselves about a musical recording without having to summon ur elected comedy hype crit zords

Was that a power rangers reference

I take back everything I said. You're all right

hipster music!!!

― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:43 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

90s ephemera ref = blood o millenials *genuinely* wriggling with delight

people fetishise the power rangers?!

veritable condition of living rn iirc

rtc did you like the new

Λ S H K Ξ T C H V M

Fucking love the power rangers man

Next on the agenda I would like to see you work in a TMNT ref. Then I'll really be wriggling

deej it took a few years but you finally found a jock you enjoy riding as much as you did ethan's

― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:36 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol u sound mad. saying he's a node of ilx disagreement isnt riding his jock

this is truly the thread this terrible album deserves <3

i disagree w/ dude all the time, i just respect his ability to not kneejerk approve of whatever the latest bubbling hipster bait artist is, it is refreshing

Which would make him the opposite of you

Don't mind me, just stirring shit on the day before thanksgiving. I'll be in the kitchen

very lazy shit stirring

deej, known proponent of the weeknd & blood orange

Don't make me bring up-

Okay, I won't. Happy thanksgiving!!

hipster bait!!!

i do not know abt pokemons but tmnt is actually a specialist subj. my ref would be that dev is the og baxter stockman, solange is the unwitting april o neil and ur all his filthy mousers hunting down hoodrat r&b. happy to be of service

deej bait more like it

itt basic bitches

hipster bait!!!

― ok (Lamp), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:10 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lamp bait

this is truly the thread this terrible album deserves <3

― lex pretend, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:02 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this thread rules

dayo you're so horrible at it, it's mystifying

for real though i put this on in the middle of an 8hr drive with my 62 year old dad last nite and about 75% of the way through he goes "i really like this music-- it's very cool and repetitive and relaxing, what do you call this kind of music?"

<3 <3 dad

i still like the last album better, indie guitar pop sounds better on him imo

"what do you call this kind of music?"

well?

pure moods

for real though i put this on in the middle of an 8hr drive with my 62 year old dad last nite and about 75% of the way through he goes "i really like this music-- it's very cool and repetitive and relaxing, what do you call this kind of music?"

<3 <3 dad

― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:07 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha awesome

dayo you're so horrible at it, it's mystifying

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ hooked

why does he keep doing snake dance is he a snak

he is snak

in america it's bling bling. in uk it's bling bang.

am0n ru from irc/#arab icr

man what's up with that interview gr80 posted?

#art

someone have a review or their own explanation as to why this is more than the 2013 twin shadow

Phoebe yes

someone have a review or their own explanation as to why this is more than the 2013 twin shadow

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why does it have to be more than that good thing

it doesnt but youd think it was a lot more based on how often ppl are pushing it on me

You're probably just their node of irl disagreement

haha love this guys dance moves lol

i think i prefer his dance moves to his music

Also the lede in the pfork review .... Uhhhh

You're probably just their node of irl disagreement

― 乒乓, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:56 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/2dLJSoa.jpg

harddog 2009

wow before this thread i didn't realize nodes were so important

q: what is a node? are there a lot of them on ilx? (if y then i think i know what a node is)

well this is the most entertaining ILM thread in months :D

slightly irked to be dissociated from ILM mind u. there's an avant-progressive scene here yo

i'd change my dn to ron node but rly what am i gonna do with just a nakh tick

who do u prefer out of ron noades and dev hynes

And dev's gonna shake it
Like a red node

xp good q, they have similar flairs for proposing trolling mergers i guess, noades of partisan football institutions, hynes of listlessness and vivacity

voted zavon hines

noades had some interesting ideas about race and division of labour

ha wait is rtc britIsh, does music critic ilx take its marching orders from A BRITISHES

FTR that's primarily the reason for the comparison, all these florid Britishisms in the nodes

But I love ya man, hope we can wriggle together one day

Also the lede in the pfork review .... Uhhhh

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, i'm surprised no one has brought this one up here or elsewhere yet. wtf

I mean eff Rtc marching orders it's less abt what he likes although he does have one of ilx's stronger hit/miss ratios (like Andy k, Tim f, a few others)

More that when he agrees w you that something is some emperors new clothes shit he's v v good at tearing it to pieces w a v gentle pen stroke.

That said I haven't listened to blood orange beyond the single, this is more a general distrust of the dev hynes aesthetic

cant believe i uncovered such a fucked up conspiracy

i'm right here ffs, were u all born in a barn, a barn called america

yes, its darn nice barn tho

we have clotheslines and cubbyholes and comfort blankets, it rules

Devonté Hynes ‏@devhynes
You guys have no fucking idea what's going on.

dev doing some srs subtweeting tonight then deleting

after he retweeted

everyword ‏@everyword 7h
trolling

lol

:(

http://evgrieve.com/2013/12/musician-dev-hynes-lost-everything.html?m=1

Jeez that's horrible

damn rip lil dog

aw man

Oh man, that's terrible.

classy stuff from the guardian...http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/19/dev-hynes-puppy-burnt-kickstarters-charity-cases-blood-orange

horrible article.

meanwhile: http://bloodorangeforever.tumblr.com/

That article is terrible. Hynes' girlfriend's mother setting up a donation page after a devastating fire is not "crowdfunding". Basically a very poorly timed excuse to hate on Zosia Mamet.

vagenda plumbing new depths there, which i didn't think was even possible for them

fyi they used kickstarter to fund their dim-witted, terrible blog

also, literally using the "it was just a bit of fun" defence rn (with a side helping of "mummy, twitter's being mean")

also, vagenda's previous peak moment: https://twitter.com/VagendaMagazine/status/410722360400965632

Kanye West has synesthesia!

thank god

That post was an A flat sus chord

#normcore

http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/02/normcore-fashion-trend.html

Q: If #normcore was a chord, which chord would it be?

A: Chorduroy!

why would it be a chord what kind of joke is that

That post is sounding a little pitchy

lol

"sus chord" Haah

http://www.stereogum.com/1671429/blood-orange-gave-a-ted-talk-about-his-synesthesia/news/

https://twitter.com/wastedsummers/status/482575969031446528

http://www.thefader.com/2014/07/01/calvin-klein-ck-one-2014/

hey look, it's what all these people should have been doing for careers all along :D

Dope imo

who were the dev hyneses of previous musical eras?

pitchfork.xls

I like this dude's album but I'm always like "wait, what's happening?" when suddenly it turns into rawkus rap

otm

i always forget that stuff is on there when i put it on

i made a playlist and took those songs off + put everythings embarrassing and the solange song on B-)

I like this dude's album but I'm always like "wait, what's happening?" when suddenly it turns into rawkus rap

― The Reverend, Friday, September 12, 2014 5:00 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

despot's verse is actually pretty fire though

the grime one i can't fuck with though

I like the Despot track it always just takes me by surprise trying to figure out what I cued up after Blood Orange.

The only album I have heard from them/him? is Cupid Deluxe and I love it, in the same vein as Solange and that Drake song that sounds like a song. Is the new or the previous album good?

Just investigated and you all already knew this but Blood Orange produced Solange's Losing You which also sounds like the inspiration to Hold On We're Going Home so it seems like he is the reason I like those two.

i used to be all "he is surely the reason i like both 'losing you' and 'everything is embarrassing'" but his own records are not v compelling at all, he is not a very convincing performer despite the super obvious influences he wears on his sleeve

like srsly imagine how bad "everything is embarrasing" could easily have been had he recorded it himself: https://soundcloud.com/user43036935/dev-hynes-everything-is-embarrassing-demo

Leaked demo of a track apparently sent to Britney for "Britney Jean". Kinda chillwavey. I like it. https://soundcloud.com/user43036935/dev-hynes-britney-demo-1-no

http://www.stereogum.com/1792012/watch-carly-rae-jepsen-dev-hynes-ariel-rechtshaid-debut-all-that-on-snl/video/

this is being talked about on the carly rae jepsen thread

its good

xpost i figured there'd be a few blood orange fans who didn't follow that thread?

oh yeah for sure

New track. Still don't know what to make of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLPsk89aUKw

i like the video

does this guy have the narrowest range of any really good songwriter/producer of recent years?

nearly all the tracks i've heard from him--his "own" stuff and the stuff he produces for other singers--is working a very similar instrumental palette, songwriting style, mood.... it's a nice mood, to be sure.

i went a listened to all his production/songwriting credits from other artists a while ago (as listed on wikipedia dot org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dev_Hynes_discography) and some of them are more "blood orange" than others the ones that are both good and have that sound are imo

http://i.imgur.com/51Wnuv1.png

its p cool to have someone writing and producing with such a left field vibe

oh also: flying overseas - theophilus london

dev hynes had to move to ny to learn how to be cool

this is still prob my favorite thing he's done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4NlOCTD3U

thats dope ty

i really like everything he's done but i wish he'd do more like this tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvbOWR-Zvdg

about to listen to a review copy of the new album, was like "hey wonder what ilx thinks about this dude" and hoooooooooooooly bejesus lol, did not know hynes was a cause of such contention.

i can /sorta/ see why people think it's the dreaded hipsterrnb but more than anything else the motivation behind that line of thinking m/l boils down to "urban outfitters locations have played his songs before." anyway, carly rae jepsen is featured on a track! excited to check this out.

stoked 4 this

it's good. somewhat uneven, and so anyone who's annoyed by the pastiche aspect of his arrangements will find that aesthetic in full flight here. but a lot of fun imo. "sandra's smile" isn't on it, which is odd considering how prominent sociopolitical concerns are throughout the record

cupid deluxe is a really good record

cupid deluxe is pretty good but the way he always uses completely static drum loops is frustrating

i fn love cupid deluxe

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/arts/music/dev-hynes-blood-orange-freetown-sound.html

NY Times writer Jon Caramanica hangs out with Hynes at various NY locations--studios, parks, the ballet, uptown, east village,

i tried to read that but it was too much "new york is a mysterious mistress"

although

lag∞n
Posted: November 25, 2015 at 3:01:20 PM
dev hynes had to move to ny to learn how to be cool

It Is What It Is

tru

damn... That caramanica profile a brutal hit by the cringe-mafia

imo to like this guy's music is to have a crush on him but reading someone so in thrall to a flâneur-type is weird cuz they paint the most banal activities as some rarefied shit, like 'he sits in parks... plays sports... walks the streets... pays for tickets to the ballet... and he has Unlocked The Secret To The City Of New York"

also lol at this

That sort of engagement feels almost antiquated, a product of an older time when place was something close to destiny. That’s no longer the case. It is less essential than ever, in this time of easy mobility of ideas and internet-driven transnational fame, for an artist to identify with one spot in the world. To be, in essence, local.

being immediately followed by 'oh and his snapchat is the bomb'

dev just ~surprise-dropped~ the new album, it's available across all platforms

http://i.imgur.com/I2gIuks.jpg

uhh doesnt he know ur supposed to put the slam poetry in the last song

i thought the intro was good! appropriately tone-setting

Get ready for some think pieces

oh damn "E.V.P." and "Desirée" are sooooo good, definitely feeling this

ha i just reread this whole thread and its so good

Jesus, that Caramanica piece. That's what a Harvard education will buy you, I guess. "When friends like Florence Welch have concerts, he goes." Really living the NYC life to the max there.

Man this album is so fine. 'But You' has the most lush chorus Garth Greenside hasn't written in years.

garth greenside

oh shi..

#blood

kinda uneven sounding to me.

i dont' like this nearly as much as the last one, on first listen, but it might be a grower. I also haven't listened to it intently, just put it on in the house

Don't really get the hype around this one

tricked into listening to some mediocre wispy pop thanks to a Carly Rae Jepsen feature, gutted

I can't get into this yet. On "Augustine" he sounds even duller than Solange.

i love the single. chorus is very tame impala. though the whole thing could have been released in 1986 apart from the 90s R&B breaks.

tricked into listening to some mediocre wispy pop thanks to a Carly Rae Jepsen feature, gutted

― boxedjoy, Saturday, July 2, 2016 4:56 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol adult children of teen pop

This is a lovely-sounding record that could use more actual songs.

can goon be tempted out of his poochie-ass lair of irony vibes to offer an opinion on this or is the brand 2 strong

feel like i havent gotten deep enough yet will report back, does feel a lil vague tho, def hasnt grabbed me like the last one

ur poochie tho

sandras smile was so good and this is a whole diff vibe which is interesting

i really like this

This album is good. I think the Pitchfork review way back when is pretty OTM slotting it in alongside the D'Angelo and Kendrick. It's not about songs as such but moods and themes. I think.

It's growing on me a bit, but still wish some of the songs tunes were as impressive as the moods, themes and what he seems to be going for.

Saw him last week.I took a friend who went in blind, and at first all the '80s style appropriation turned him off, but by the end he was pretty convinced. It's just delivered as this weird contrast of a really talented, compelling, confident guy playing and singing like he's still insecure and trying to figure things out, as an aesthetic, which comes off a little off-kilter and incomplete. But again, by design.

guess he has some music on the imminent solange album

i really love this but cupid deluxe might be better

im not sure

I think the Pitchfork review way back when is pretty OTM slotting it in alongside the D'Angelo and Kendrick.

oof i cringed a little when i read that review, seemed like such a cheap and easy critical move to do just bc of some political vocal samples. i love this album but i really don't see it in the same vein as the BM or TBAP, it is very different, honestly i don't even view BM in the same vein as TBAP other than major albums w/ some persona/political themes by black americans?

dev hynes is from london town me old china

i know, i was talking about d'angelo & kendrick

dohhh

dev hynes had to move to ny to learn how to be cool

― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 25, 2015 5:01 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because of my friend getting a babysitting call she can't refuse, I have come into a free ticket to this guy's performance of his 'score to the easternsports art installation' tonight at the whitney. I know literally nothing about him or his music. IDK sometimes these very random opportunities are great.

That was fucking cool. Basically a continuous ~1 hr solo instrumental piece starting on piano then moving to synth then back to piano then to EWI then finishing on piano, with backing tracks but not very many of them. Reminiscences at various times of McCoy Tyner, Reich, Penguin Cafe, and Vangelis (massive sawtooth sound controlled by EWI in a slow ecstatic solo, the high point of the performance)

Are blood orange smoothies any good

bowled over by the new album

*listens*

Kind of amazed there's been so little talk about this so far. Just realized a few minutes that this exists when "Charcoal Baby" showed up on spotify radio with its incredible detuned guitar.

have begun jamming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVaNFE2bb3U

WOWWW a man after my own heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTzbz6layI

was just thinking there was some reichy marimbas on the last album so this makes a lot of sense

on first listen the first half is some of his best work ever, especially Orlando, but it falls off by the end.

His albums always take awhile for me to really, really like. Always love what he's trying to do, but the choruses don't immediately stick

i just love the production throughout... i think it's such a warm palette and fits his songwriting better than arrangements w more structure

project pat on this

production is indeed nice, but i feel like it seriously lacking in hooks compared to the previous two

First listen was more vibes than hooks, but obviously I think I need to pay close attention to the lyrics. Not sure I'm down with all the spoken word interview interludes, but there weren't many of them, iirc.

his records sound so good though in the summer, it was like 81 and humid at 8am today and this was so pleasant to hear

On Instagram Dev Hynes called the Blood Orange gig I just saw Friday night a "DREAM SHOW IN DC..." Nitpicky me was intermittently impressed with his songcraft,arrangements, guitar playing, & dancing; but (maybe it was the microphone & sound system & not him) at times his voice wasn't strong enough; many songs felt like '90s r'n'b homages but without the hooks, he didn't play the piano enough (which he sounds great on). I feel like he's on the verge of eventually doing something consistently great but he's not quite there yet.

Oh on Instagram, Dev also says he composed a new 75 minute score for a dance piece by the Chicago-based Hubbard Street Dance Company that premiered in Chicago recently. He says it's his "longest classical piece yet." It's a collaboration called "There was Nothing" with impressive Memphis juke dancer Lil Buck Da Legend and Third Coast Percussion.

Song Exploder did an episode about the making of "saint" last week

Song Exploder did an episode about the making of "saint" last week

― President Keyes, Monday, October 1, 2018 3:08 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh excellent, must listen. truly enjoyed him showing off his gear and his late 80s Manhattan loft in the video for that song.

like most of his albums i feel like the last one features a few really strong songs interspersed with lots of texture and contextual production vibes. always feels a bit uneven, although i really dig the sounds and spaces he creates with them

I really wanna see that dance piece, actually—I'm in Chicago, so I really have no excuse not to (besides like.....lack of funds).

one of my fav albums in years

this album fucks def

so weird how much time has passed since test icicles, a band i saw in langley opening for fake shark (of which Kevin went on to produce for carly rae and many others)

like most of his albums i feel like the last one features a few really strong songs interspersed with lots of texture and contextual production vibes. always feels a bit uneven, although i really dig the sounds and spaces he creates with them

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:55 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

felt that way about the last one but this one do not

feeling some sort of resonance between this and the moodymann dj kicks

OK fine

heh

diamonds in my hair i’m pretty as fuck

love this album

feeling some sort of resonance between this and the moodymann dj kicks

― lag∞n, Sunday, October 7, 2018 10:16 PM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how much of the resemblance is down to yaw - 'where will you be' tho?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA5RW-X2QTc

Loving it. The only track I skip is the gospel track. And I like gospel, but it starts up and NOPE

his vocal chops are def put to the test at some points lol

feeling some sort of resonance between this and the moodymann dj kicks

― lag∞n, Sunday, October 7, 2018 10:16 PM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how much of the resemblance is down to yaw - 'where will you be' tho?

― flopson, Tuesday, November 6, 2018 9:16 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great song def idk mostly just a vibe/was prob stoned when i wrote that

oh, this album rules

he did it, i finally don't hate a blood orange album

You hated the last one?

i guess hate is an exaggeration but i’ve never enjoyed his solo work

What's changed in the new one?

idk the songwriting feels stronger and less murky and monotonous in tone

I'm with Brad. He's written songs instead of atmospheres without sacrificing the poignancy of those atmospheres.

way more hooks on the previous two. i couldn't really get into this one

find this pleasant sounding but i have pretty much the opposite reaction to alfred. i.e. it's not quite songy enough but there's some nice atmospheres

I'm with marcos and jim here. Songs feel more like sketches on this new one.

I'm with Alfred. Atmospheres feel like songs, songs smell like farts.

i found most of those hooks to be p tepid at best & annoyingly condensed at worst (like, that crj song) so i prefer his songwriting stretched out as it is on the new one. still not totally converted yet but

i just love the production throughout... i think it's such a warm palette and fits his songwriting better than arrangements w more structure

― J0rdan S., Sunday, August 26, 2018 12:38 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also this is otm

yeah i think it earns its digressiony qualities bc the swirls of melody and structure that appear and disappear are, individually, pretty much always commanding and interesting. (imo, again, i found his previous two solo records, despite having more strictly bound "songs," far less imaginative.) it's a pretty filmic record, tracks run into each other like a cut or dissolve between frames. he's less hemmed in rhythmically here too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce8i5BDuf7U

this is so good, love the piano

nice

wau

why are there no tv shows with decent live audio when so many radio stations get it right

i liked negro swan so much it go me into freetown sound which i didnt really connect with before but now think is good

a few months ago i randomly heard "chamakay" on a college/community station. that is a song

dope def

EVP possibly my favourite (midtempo melancholy) song of the last 5 years

freetown sound is really good

holy cannoli Angel's Pulse is amazing!!!!!

<3 "gold teeth"

yeah what a nice suprise to see project pat and gangsta boo on a track! cool to hear them over something kinda spacey/jazzy