stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days

Either you have "traditional" bookmarks setting turned on in prefs, or you're using a device that it thinks is a mobile.

I posted this question a while ago to another thread, but no one answered, maybe this would be a better place for it:

Why does ILX have two URLS, www.ilxor.com and ilxor.com, both of which require a separate login? I normally log in via www.ilxor.com, and often someone adds a link to some thread, but the link address has just ilxor.com, which means that if I open the link I have to login again, change site preferences, etc. What's the point of keeping these two separate, couldn't one of them just redirect to the other?

it's for when somebody in your life is on you about posting too much on ilxor.com, then you can say "no no, I'm much more disciplined now, I'm really posting a lot less to ilxor.com" and technically still be telling the truth because you were logging in & posting to a thread about some reissue whose name you'd already forgotten by the time you hit post on www.ilxor.com, instead of doing the same thing on ilxor.com. and vice versa. vital service imo

What's the point of keeping these two separate, couldn't one of them just redirect to the other?

If you remember, there used to be *four* URLS -- ilx.wh3rd.net and ilx.p3r.net all used to work as well. We did once make them all point to www.ilxor.com but people complained because they would log in to one site as one sock and another site as another.

Which is a terrible reason, really. Perhaps we should just canonicalise it. Would help with the SEO too probably.

if there was just some way to manually edit a url once it's in the address bar. probably we are years if not decades away from that technology.

if urls were converted to be relative to the root then the browser would fill in the right host.

stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days <- www, no good for non-www people

stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days <- non-www, no good for www people

/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=56&threadid=85944&action=showall&bookmarkedmessageid=6201546 <- relative, ok for both

(this, of course, won't work and i'll look like an idiot)

stet, i think if you set the domain of the cookie to be ".ilxor.com" it will be shared between www.ilxor and ilxor so you'll stay logged in and keep your prefs etc

that'll confuse sandbox.ilxor.com tho

so, uh, what's going on with the search function?

i accidentally broke it during the last upgrade; I'm working on the fix now, but it'll be a little while yet

oh ok, no problem

I am a little surprised that I am as sad that right now I can't, for example, look up the first time someone used the word "dickhole" on the site as I am.

google with the site: option

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww.ilxor.com+dickhole

is there more suitable term for the Japs Eye? - ilXor.com
www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40...
22 Nov 2001 - 38 posts - ‎23 authors
HOT SAUCE IN THE DICK HOLE. HOT SAUCE IN THE DICK HOLE. HOT SAUCE IN THE DICK HOLE. HOT SAUCE IN THE DICK HOLE.

what is the character limit for poll options plz

(also could it ever be removed sometime?)

so i'm able to google and find threads, but when i click on the links or when i click on links in a thread (like the one mookieproof posted for the forks pottery thread), i get this message:

Error Page
An error has occurred; please try again shortly.

Return to Front Page.

this happening for anyone else?

i've occasionally gotten that when trying to post something (usually with bbcode?)

figured god was telling me to delete my account

I c&p'd a post from one thread to another. In the new thread, the post didn't include my username, date, time, bookmark, and permalink. Instead, it seems to just be using that information from within the quoted text. Thought this was unusual enough to bring up.

Original post:

Least appealing song on "Encomium: A Tribute to Led Zeppelin"

c&p'd in another thread:

Are you a believer in mira-POLLs? Do you notice and recognize mira-POLLs?

Any update on https?

My office-mate (software guy) suggests using this stuff:
https://letsencrypt.org/

It was a bloody nightmare to install, fuck all that "hey SSL is super-easy why hasn't everyone done it yet?!?" EFF gubbins.

But it's here, and seems to be working. https://www.ilxor.com ahoy.

good job stet! thank you.

Wow! Thank you so much.

Thank you!

Has new.CSS changed in the last day? Site is rendering weirdly on my phone now, narrower and with wrapping of menu bar.

SSL-change related maybe?

If I "request desktop site" it goes back to how it was before.

Nope. Sna looks OK that way but actual threads are resized to fit the page width and all the text goes tiny.

Yeah this is weird to me!

(Android, Firefox 50.1.0)

You know there's a special ILX app for Android? Search for 'Flagging' in the Play Store.

Yes, weird formatting happening for me to using chrome on Android. Request desktop site seems to help, but haven't needed that previously.

Weird in an unusable way or just a "this is different" way?

It has changed: I've set a viewport for mobile which stops browsers trying to fit the entire page into view (and making it tiny as a result). This was giving us problems with search, as Google was penalising it for being mobile-unfriendly and not showing ILX results on mobile.

large left margin and no right margin. not unusable but not acceptable either

Yes, left margin is too big and the bookmarks div uses only the central 40% of the page.

(Screenshot on flickr)

Don't think that's new.css, can you try that? If it is better then I probably just need to refresh the stylesheets to cold

That was mono something, new is the same, only more colourful. Actually, new is using probably the middle 75% of the screen for bookmarks.

(Flickr updated)

(I like the new menus and add a post box, it's just those margins)

Yes, large left margin is the main problem. It pushes text off the right side of the screen

change in bookmark behavior (Firefox, Win 10) - used to be, when I clicked the Bookmark link, the thread title would no longer be displayed at the top - now it remains there until you go to another page, then it disappears. nbd, just noting.

wait it worked just now, maybe it's just too early and I need coffee

no that has definitely become a thing for me too

Yeah I just came here to report that, and the odd viewing experience on mobile (Safari on iOS)

Obviously the second is far more jarring than the first (the old behaviour there was desktop-only, of course)

yeah, just saw it happen again on the Talking Heads thread, but it worked properly on this one, let's see what happens after I post

Same as Sleeve, w/ all my bookmarks.

refreshed properly that time, no link visible

however, it does seem to load the whole thread now whereas before I think it just reloaded whatever had been posted since your previous bookmark?

Have also had to tick Request Desktop Site since css change. Wondered if it was a way to persuade android users to use the Flagging app tbh.

OK now I click "Bookmark" and still see the link up top (shrug)

I haven't changed anything about the bookmarking behaviour; I wonder why that's changed. Will see what I can figure out.

haha that time it went away!

thanks for all your work, stet!

Mine has a large right margin not left margin?

who is search back?

who whoa is search back?

i guess not

oh I see the problem with bookmarking; should be able to fix

fixed!

<3

That was fast!

On the https stuff, does Zing use that now?

No, it'll need an update to use that. Working on it though

Thank you!

Is it possible whatever you did with bookmarks momentarily caused my bookmarks in Flagging to update?

my mobile site is still weirdly narrow

Maybe there needs to be a mobile.css. hard to do though, without an editor on the phone.

Hey guys, I can't post a question anywhere. Just me or a problem with the board? Getting poxy fule errors.

still narrow for me on iphone safari :(

also recent posts is down

i've put a new mobile css here http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/mobile.css if keith / stet would like to add that to the list

changes:
body.margin-left and margin-right down from 3 to .5 em - main indent
blockquote.margin-left and margin-right set to 5px each (the default is 40px)
.mainblock.margin-right to .5em to match margin-left
.mainblock.padding-left down from 10px to 5px

(comments are within mainblock within body so they were getting doubly indented)

i've only looked at a thread with bookmarks and block quotes as those were the things that were bugging me the most. shout if i need to add anything else.

Thanks for doing this! Am on hols this week with 2G so will install when I get back

Oh, but that's a per-account seeing, isn't it? So if I choose mobile.css that'll be what I see on the desktop too. Not great (not a disaster because it's only slightly smaller margins but... )

Maybe there's a way of switching based on attributes, so mobile.css changes are part of new.css and selected if screen width is below a certain size.

(I know you can do that, just didn't try it because I didn't think it was necessary)

(And whether it works everywhere is always a gotcha)

It's not per account - I use a different stylesheet on my phone than on my desktop - assume it's cookie-based?

Strange to say, when the main Search wasn't working, I could still access My Recent Posts. Now everything is Poxy Fuled. :-(

xp on my PC (WIn7, Firefox) there's a cookie called StyleSheet whose content is 'old.css' (the stylesheet I use).

xp I get Poxy Fuled now on both search and My Recent Posts, where the latter worked up until the day before yesterday.

so uh have we figured out why iPhone safari is narrow or what

because it's kind of annoying

Stet's on holiday.

Stetlock Holiday

so that's a "post new question is down" for everybody then?

I can click on it and that screen comes up. Haven't tried actually posting yet. Does it say TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE when you do so?

yep

Okay. I am about to try, before you can say...

Turn Back You Poxy Fule

An error has occurred; please try again shortly

this is a feature, not a bug. ILX is now sentient and has to pre-approve new threads

so now you can't make regular threads, but you can make polls

what a nightmare

SAD!

no new threads are needed

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/10/1357837002553/Morrissey-and-Marr-onstag-010.jpg?w=700&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=f9a6f2e54908651ea79779cbf627ba35
Oh mother, I can feel the POLLS falling over my head

Ilx is dead

Long live ilx

Oops! Sorry. Works now.

thank you!

gracias

is there any way to not get these video ads even while logged in? They keep crashing my browser

When you're seeing the ads, can you try opening the Preferences page and let me know if it comes up normally?

yes, it seems to come up normally

https doesn't load stylesheet?

Would the mobile.css be coming any time soon?

Not till I get back from holiday next week. Buy Zing.

Tombot: does for me, any browser unusualness?

yes massive browser unusualness since I posted that. having a great internet day over here in fact.

Since my https://badssl.com/ results are very different (and worse) on this machine than they were last week, I'm going to go ahead and assume my office is fucking with the middlebox

install the Stylish add-on to firefox and add the following css file

http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/mobile.css

but i think it will be applied everywhere (see above for the changes)

hi stet - ive been working on a silly project, its a blog that uses an ilx thread as its backend, im almost finished with it, just wanted to make sure it was cool with you, i was planning on releasing it into the wild in case anyone else wants to use it, which im sure they wont

its just a lil ruby script that scrapes a thread once an hour then tweaks it into blog form, i cn show u the c0de if u want

anyway let me know if that sounds ok with you

Which thread

Is it the rolling admin log o_O

Seems OK as an idea though. You could in theory do it all with an xslt too lol xslt

cool ha, its gonna require a new thread, u cant just use it on any existing thread cause i made it so a post with underlined text by the thread starter is what makes a new blog post, then the rest of the posts are comments, dont think theres anyway to really make that distinction besides putting something specific in the post, unless u wanted every post by the thread starter to be a new blog post, been testing it w this thread the most advanced blogging platform i have the main scraping/output functionality done i think but still have to do the css/scheduling/etc

What happens if the underlined text isn't the first thing in the thread post?

still a new blog post, i thought abt making it only work if it was the first thing but then decided to be lazy and say only use the <u> if u want a new blog post, might clean that up at some point idk

the upside is in this innovative new platform u can have the title in the middle of a post!

lol yes i just tested it and yes u cant put the title in the middle!

lately i can't start threads on web ilx, can't post on zing, can't search (even My Recent Posts, which had worked while search was down)

anything i can do about any of these?

Ur fpd

ilx is slowly breaking

save the women and children first!

can someone write a simple script that flagposts everyone in a thread

flagpoll

Test

Right. Stet/keith or whoever is in charge of code these days, i am unable to post or logout when not on zing. Poxy fule issues. Help?

This is why we have code freezes on Fridays...

test?

okay, just needed to clear cookies apparently.

forks did clearing cookies help you?

mobile.css now available

hmm pressing "preferences" when logged in just takes me to the login screen

A lot of these are the same bug -- the "remember me" hack is isn't quite working well. Try hitting "Site New Answers" and trying again

worked! 🤗

i've had to clear cookies a few times now. sort of kind of working i think? let's see if this posts.

You could in theory do it all with an xslt too lol xslt

ha

Test post from mobile.

nope, it didn't go through

I'm seeing banner ads for my local pizza place when logged in (on IE - it's at work)

oh shit, thanks for restoring the search function!

(now I'll just have to remember the 600 things of gross importance I intended to search for while the search function was down)

The banner ads thing should be fixed now; logout (and delete cookies) then log in again if still seeing them

Has anyone spotted anything odd with the new mobile CSS? I'm pretty happy with it but there could be corners of the site I don't use that still look a bit odd.

(The space on the left is slightly wider than the space on the right but not enough to be worth updating the CSS for on its own)

So in HTML Playground the most recently updated thread seems to break something? I'm afraid to even c+p the name. Unicode was a mistake.

What does it break for you, in which browser? It has some right-to-left fun, but most modern browsers seem OK w/that

ha well it doesn't break in a *browser* per se, oh would you look at the time

Oh! Well zing works

haven't heard of it

i'm good being un-emoji'ed whenever it's convenient

Oh god it's money time again isn't it? To the counting house

surprised we don't have an endowment yet tbrr

How I wish we had image upload

serious about the money? Can throw some sheckels in

I'm working (slowly) on image upload.

I need to do some sums on the money. Amazon has discontinued the type of server we're on, so I'll need to figure out what's next

am i wrong in saying that when you open the board up for donations, you make low expectation limits within 24 hours? Seems like we could aim a bit higher with no issues.

I have always appreciated that the site elders are justifiably cautious about golden goosism.

I will vote for DJP for Prez on the condition that he creates the Office of the Cookie Pimp

The real question on fundraising is whether they'll ever hand out gold stars again.

Neanderthal I think your post belonged on the Chapo Trap House thread but it works just fine here as well.

Stet, can you make it happen?

xp I've abused mine, the system is over

twitter links are not showing up as hyperlinks

Hey, guys, I noticed this twice today: I had multiple YouTube embed links in a post, I posted, and then everything after that initial YouTube link disappeared from the final post. Just thought you should know if you didn't already.

Yep, both problems are related. I'll fix it asap

thanks!

So the problem I noted two posts back, it looks like it's related to whether you have images turned on or not. With images on, all of the YouTube embeds in a post appear, but with images off, the tail end of the post disappears after the first YouTube link. Hope that's helpful.

not sure if this is an ilx issue or a browser issue but my ilx login and stylesheet cookies aren't working in microsoft edge - i have to login again every time i restart the browser. cookies working fine on all the other sites i use regularly.

So the problem I noted two posts back, it looks like it's related to whether you have images turned on or not. With images on, all of the YouTube embeds in a post appear, but with images off, the tail end of the post disappears after the first YouTube link. Hope that's helpful.

― How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Friday, April 28, 2017 8:26 AM (two days ago)

I noticed a while back that if a post includes both a youtube embed and a quote box, the quoted text disappears when you turn images off (but regular text is unaffected). I assume this is a related issue.

A funny thing happens when you turn images off...

Fixed! And hopefully tweets should now embed properly too.

how does Theresa May manage to look so constantly annoyed, I mean she's eating chips there, chips are happy food, come on pic.twitter.com/7S7y9rkq3h

— Marie Le Conte (@youngvulgarian) May 2, 2017

hahaha

thanks, stet!

CHEER UP MISSUS

nice work

fp

tweets are a fucking shambles on Zing

they open fine if you tap the post

and twist the app

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/80HrR1OvLTo/hqdefault.jpg

There's a Zing update in review w/Apple

isnt the https fix/embed going to work with tweets posted before yesterday?

Show Images (and other embedded media, like videos and Tweets)

this needs separating up more than ever now; most of the time i've only ever wanted just images and no youtubes, etc

Has anyone spotted anything odd with the new mobile CSS? I'm pretty happy with it but there could be corners of the site I don't use that still look a bit odd.

(The space on the left is slightly wider than the space on the right but not enough to be worth updating the CSS for on its own)

― koogs, Sunday, 16 April 2017 06:19 Bookmark

can youtube embeds be forced to a smaller size? they break the right margin for me as is

css otherwise great though tyvm. (always thought i wanted an ilx android app but turns out it's simply intolerable not being able to see who bumped a thread)

isnt the https fix/embed going to work with tweets posted before yesterday?

No, it's different from the other embeds -- for every posted Tweet you need to make a call to Twitter's API to get a bespoke embed code. So it only takes effect on tweets posted from now on. I could think about a batch historical job, though.

this needs separating up more than ever now; most of the time i've only ever wanted just images and no youtubes, etc

That could be doable, I think. Will take a look.

Fixed! And hopefully tweets should now embed properly too.

― stet, Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:25 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

loving these thx!

yeah this is a great development kudos

tweets looking pretty good!

and thanks for the demotion from smirking emoji

lol

one thing I like about the way Zing displays boards instead of the real site is leaving out the "Last updated on..." headers before threads older than a day.

> can youtube embeds be forced to a smaller size?

um, i see what you mean. youtube videos are within an iframe with an explicit width and height. i can force the width to be 100% easily enough (or 90% or whatever) but can't yet find a way of maintaining the aspect ratio. maybe the aspect ratio is fixed anyway? (all the ones i've looked at are width="560" height="315", 16:9, but that doesn't help, i don't think)

I’m on 77 now, but it’s not showing up in Site New Answers despite being configured to do so?

wb dude <3

embedded tweets are awesome, thanks stet!

xpost Thank you, LBI! <3

i did not realise you had been away but wb

Uh, so I just posted to a 77 thread, and now that thread shows up on SNA, but no other threads from 77 are there. Perhaps the other threads have just been inactive for long enough for them to fall off SNA.

xpost Thanks homie.

For awhile now bookmarks haven't worked (aren't updasted) when I'm on www.ilxor.com. When I remove the wwww. part they do work. Just fyi.

when i open a thread that has some images in it, why does the thread open at the images instead of the most recent post? e.g. i open the us politics thread and it keeps opening at the belle and sebastian image w/ the two trump ladies even though there a bunch of posts after that

I've had the same problem for years, just went with "forget it, jake, it's chinatown."

Firefox is reporting the site as insecure all of a sudden? seems to have just happened.

just renewing the certs; should be OK now

ah thx

i've gotten logged out 2 times since the certs were updated, is this gonna be a thing?

On the same browser and computer?

I had this thread bookmarked: https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=105785&action=showall&bookmarkedmessageid=6338014 (one of the many AG Manchester threads) but when I try to load it to remove the bookmark I get the "This thread does not appear to exist. If you had it bookmarked, perhaps the thread has been moved to another board" alert. Just want to delete the bookmark at this point.

You should be able to delete it from the Bookmarks page

btw we appreciate ur work ty stet

Thanks stet!

Thanks!

I've now made http mandatory; let me know if anyone experiences any issues w/this

https even

note to killfile users: you will need to update the script to add https

(phew, for a minute I thought killfile was broken)

thanking u for this important technical update

xp aaah thanks

Theresa May will not be happy.

thanks euler

did the pic.twitter.com links in embedded tweets stop embedding on both the website and IN ZING? or were they always things you had to click?

I didn't change anything, I think it's something Twitter-side

seeing them embedded on my desktop (Chrome/Win10) fwiw

oh looks like I did mess up after all (stupid git). Should be working again now

Search not working past few days?

Or just me

i dunno how u expect stet to know whether you've been working or not for the past few days tbh

Fair

Note: possibly working but quite slow. I'm on phone also not patient.

found it slow and intermittent earlier this week so probably not just you. ilx has a few issues on my phone tbf (Chrome browser)

Index looks like it's up to date, at least

http://i.imgur.com/Cdz6mGh.png

Had no probs whatsoever. Were you perhaps searching shirtless deems?

Sir i was not

Stet, it seems particularly exacerbated if I search for a phrase in quotes rather than a single word. may be nothing more a combination of being in a bad area of coverage in work and the extra complexity of such a search?

lol LBI

Hey guys, I'm guessing there are updates afoot as I've been forcibly logged out a couple times this morning. Just wanted to let you know: I have images turned off in my preferences but they are currently showing up in threads anyway.

Or possibly only tweets are displaying?

I've been getting site can't be reached errors a bunch today

Yes, rolling out some updates today. I seem to have introduced a bug where logged-in users with images off still see tweets, but I can't see where! Will take another look this evening

put it on github and make the complainer do a pull request imo

lol OTM

that should be fixed now

I have Show Images on, but I never see pictures from embedded tweets, just a link to pic.twitter.com. Is this a bug or by design?

I think that's a Twitter thing — there's some setting on their site that affects it. Also some AdBlock can interfere with them too.

Ah yes, uBlock Origin was blocking all third-party domains. Now I see not just the images, but the entire tweet in Twitter-style. Thanks!

Am I genuinely the only person for whom search is more broken than not?

I'm getting a broken search on "Excelsior" in Titles in I Love Everything atm. Just spins its wheels.

Blog View has been fixed for a while now and I just wanted to say thanks.

can't verify what the offending problem is with the site cert from work because we have a dumb corporate proxy that intercepts the real cert

but others have mentioned, cert prob

fixed now

or should be

all good here, fyi

Got an alert about certificates about 20 minutes ago but all good now

what is next.ilxor.com, the pepsi of ilx?

it was the domain I was using to access the site while the old server was still large/in charge

so do we have this business on github or anything now, the old google code one is long gone

I need a partially sharded instance in the american midwest now that it's a little laggy

Is it a little laggy? Damn. Boy howdy is it quick in BRITISHES

i want to port it to serverless

lol

only lagginess i'm noticing is when i visit the site for the first time and get the 'hi tracer' page.

can we get the www redirect set up at the DNS level? i am a busy man.

can we have an image host

http://cocaine.yoga

u mean drugs.yoga

maybe someday I'll do something with that other than parking a gif of stevie d, hard to say

ilx dank meme stash hehe

need somewhere to store my voluminous library of ned nudes

only lagginess i'm noticing is when i visit the site for the first time and get the 'hi tracer' page.

― Mordy, Monday, October 30, 2017 4:36 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol the page should actually say "hi tracer"

Ahem

lol

HAHAHAHAHAHA

stet i kiss you!!!!!!! hahahaa

can we get the www redirect set up at the DNS level? i am a busy man.

Hang on, is that possible? I have redirects like "ilm.ilxor.com" set up at DNS level, but they swallow all the sub-paths, so if I did it on www I'd lose all the other URLs, no?

is it behind a reverse proxy/load balancer? that's where I'd set up the forward, imo. not sure why there's a transition page

It was originally there (it’s been there for years) so that I could redirect without forcing a particular domain choice. But I guess I can do that in htaccess

you can set up bare to www or www to bare (with CNAME's iirc, but it's been a while).

i'm not sure i understand the setup here, but i don't see why having other top-level names (ilm etc.) would change things.

No no no don’t use CNAME for that

lads

This a small thing in the greater ilx scheme of things, but if it is simple to fix I would be very appreciative:

I had bookmarked the "have you ever masturbated in front of a woman thread," which I came to regret several posts later but failed to remove the bookmark before the thread was poofed. So the thread title still shows up in my bookmarks. The thread gave me the creeps and seeing the title every time I open ILX kinda sucks for me. I can certainly deal with it if the fix is a pain in the ass, but if it is a quick and simple thing, I'd love for you to remove this ghost of poorly formed threads past.

does checking the box next to it in bookmarks and hitting remove not kill it?

I’m trying to test but not sure if I have any killed threads in mine

I had that shameful issue too, but somehow I got rid of it.

In all my years in the post-bookmark era, I had never actually visited the bookmarks controller page! I thought bookmarks only existed at the top of SNA!

This is clearly my most stunning discovery of 2017. Thanking u mh!

also lol that Jeff of all totally good dudes also had the secret shame

you can save a copy of the page as a backup and then clear all bookmarks as a cleansing new year tradition

it's actually a bizarre review to look at all of those bookmarks that stacked up over--how many years since bookmarks became a thing?

sna loads when you press 's'. i just noticed this.

nice easter egg there!

CHANGELOG

whoa, i didn't see that thread. thanks!

Has ilx been having loading problems for anyone else yesterday and especially today?

Yes

The hosts are doing all sorts of Meltdown work right now, I’m sure that’s the cause

Acceptable!

I hosted some ppl Christmas day and had similar reaction tbh

Wait

You're presuming this isn't just what performance is gonna be like post-patching.....

too l8 i have already hacked the site

O that always ends well

I was running kodakcoin mining on the northern europe server, sorry guys

my first act will be to add a like button to every post and give myself 69 likes

The only real digital currency

also 69 ilxcoins

Peaked some years back

Here's a bug:

When you follow the link in this message to the other thread:

rolling twee/indiepop 2k18: sweaters never go out of style

...that thread will load from "ilxor.com" not "www.ilxor.com" which will mean user cookies won't load and login won't work.

Somehow, the redirect to 'www.ilxor.com' didn't happen.

Yeah, that's a known thing -- it just means the person who posted the link is on ilxor.com -- we don't try to redirect those (though probably should tbh)

hai

just use relative links, leave the hostname out of the url.

(ilx should when it creates the link, not the individual posters)

this isn't a big deal, but any idea why this image shows up even if you have images off (or are logged out)?

RW Fassbinder: C/D, S/D, Y/DA-Y/DA

Is the Haim thread broke?

Won't seem to let me post on it

HAIM&

works for me, job done, jacket on

hey s/koiicoctd,
would it be at all quick/easy to make the new-ish keyboard shortcuts toggleable in preferences? they brick my type-ahead find :/ of course nbd if not easy to do, appreciate y'all!

Getting a warning from browser when attempting to open pass/agg notes fyi

Gannsdeen.com the culprit iirc

gannsdone

Link?

I'll take a look, sleepingbag. For now, does typing / first help?

nah, typing / doesn't work. this isn't a big deal really i don't know why i asked :/ my forums experience is overall a+ great. i'd say don't sweat it unless it's literally like one-click easy. thank you!

I get poxy fule error when I post Twitter links in my phone's chrome browser. Don't get this on other devices.

Nevermind, figured it out. The Twitter app on my phone adds some extra characters to its tweet links that ILX doesn't like. Deleted them and post worked.

^ thanks for that, you've solved the same problem for me

i keep getting broken image links (firefox, linux, probably others) usually embeds from twitter and imgur. the src looks ok and the link works when clicked on but it doesn't show up inline.

here's one (twitter):

the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

here's another (imgur):

bear say hi to me

the bear say hi to me imgur link posted by latham green is broken just because it points to an imgur album rather than an individual imgur image

let's see...

https://i.imgur.com/l1tmlJP.jpg

(not sure i did that the way normal people do imgur pics)

that should be the standard ilx “server is down bear with us” page

ilx it, pursued by a bear

why does the site show up as "Not Secure" in the searchbar? Using Chrome btw.

oh, it's not any more.

It'll do that if you visit a page which has an image posted that is hosted on an http site

ah, i see.

this has probably been asked 000's of times but...

what order are my bookmarks in? it seems so random.

I'm afraid it was over ten years ago I did it and I can't remember. My immediate reaction was that it would be coming out just exactly as it's stored in the database, but that's ordered by message board and then by the thread ID (just in order of the thread age), but they're not showing like that, so not sure. I could go back and look at the code, but if it's okay with you C, I can't be arsed at the moment.

UPDATE: I have just been arsed, and it gets the stuff from the database, which would be ordered by message board, but it then sticks them in to a hash table, which means that it's pretty much indeterminate what order they will be read out from.

If I'd stuck them in a list, rather than a hash table, then they would have come out in the same order as the database. It's that it is a hash table that makes it pretty much random. Can't remember why I did it that way, but there was most likely a reason, just lost in the mists of time and I really can't be arsed going and figured out why.

linkedhashmap would work, eh

so much arsing

haha! thanks Keith! Now I can forget about it rather than trying to make sense of it.

I’ve done the exact same thing in programming tbh

Yes, a LinkedHashMap would have done it, I guess, if I'd thought about ordering at all at the time, although I would also have had to beam eight years forward in time to bring it back to 2006 when I wrote it.

Keith otm

hmm yes true

i'm having problems posting to the weinstein thread - did i get threadbanned or... ?

so for awhile now i've been getting poxy fuled anytime i click on a link in a thread to another message or thread on ILX. specifically it takes me to a poxy fule page where i'm no longer logged in.

any idea why this might be occurring? i was going to try to clear my history and cache or w/e but preferred not to if i could avoid it.

ilxor.com / www.ilxor.com?

that did it -- Andrew you're a lifesaver

Sorry for downtime; back now

as always thanks for the work stet

^^^^ many thanks

Stet=best

Yer a star. The absence made my heart grow fonder as I realised how this place was the only thing keeping me sane on dull Fridays at work.

thank you stet

blessig u stet

thanks, stet

is there still a sandbox or a version thereof for when this happens?

who da man? stet da man!

if there was a prize for most times you fruitlessly went to ilxor.com AGAIN during the outage from sheer muscle memory i think i would win it

There is a sandbox, but it's hosted on the same box for cheapness reasons so it went down too. I did eventually remember to post a note at status.ilxor.com tho

I kiss you stet

PLZ TO MAINTAIN 5 NINES AVAILABILITY

has the fiddly bit that brings you to the first unread post in a previously visited thread broke

its been opening threads a good few pages up for me the past few days

also the little blobs that let you choose when voting in a poll have vanished for me (in chrome)

this doesn't matter as polls are bad (and you should feel bad) but they're also not working in the search function when you choose thread or post

great another non voter lecturing us

if polls improved ilx they'd be illegal

little blobs still not visible

is it bcz i upgraded to macOS MOHAVE on monday in which case may 'oumuamua return and rain death on us all

(sorry that was a turning-off-and-on-again-doesn't-work type report, not a why-hell-not-sorted-yet type whine)

SHOW 👏 US 👏 MARK’S 👏 BLOBS 👏

Blobgate

which browser, mark? and which style sheet? (as in the 'I Want to Change the Way The Site Looks...' option in preferences)

(they are called 'radio buttons' btw, because they work the way old radios worked - you can only have one button pressed at a time)

browser chrome, style sheet new.css

(i choose to call them BLOBS bcz i am a poet and plus the only radio i ever loved had KNOBS aka DIALS, which you turned)

(also the BLOBS on the style sheet prefs page are in fact currently visible)

The blob of a poet

I was watching an Imagine episode about David Hockney making a stained glass window for Westminster Abbey and he was talking about how we all see things differently and why we do. It made me think of Mark's blobs.

erm bloblessness this is still an issue for me, which makes the search function unuseable :(

i've realised that i can check how mine looks because don't have a working chrome login

you could try changing the stylesheet from new.css to something else, see if that helps (because it sounds like a css problem and that'll change the css).

i keep forgetting that style sheets exist

the idea that there are people out there viewing my handcrafted artisanal shitposts on anything other than new.css is... upsetting

It's not a CSS issue, I don't think. They're not showing correctly across all style sheets. I'll take a look.

it's ok BG everyone skips them

the idea that people read ILX on anything other than old.css is so profoundly unsettling that i literally can't dwell on it for longer than a few moments because otherwise i'd have to come to terms with the fact that people whose posts i know and cherish are actually living - indeed, have been living this whole time - in an uncouth sans-serif shadow dimension

wing ding ding tracer

wait new.css is san serif isn't it?

*horrible doubts yawn open at feet*

caek.css for life tbh

yeah new.css is sans serif

i mean i'm looking right at it

Yeah, that's what Tracer is saying.

yes but what he is also saying is that ilx-as-was was a serif font -- and i once knew this and had entirely forgotten and it's like redpill me now baby i want to see the matrix-vat i'm wallowing in for one brief terrible moment before the horrow overwhelms me

The radio buttons work in Chrome for me, if this helps?

(I honestly think I'm the only person who uses the "blobs", and not bookmarks)

I am a blobs not bookmarks person

dark.css seems to make clicked links black-on-black, at least on Firefox.

(correction, dark.css makes ILM topics black-on-black in the SNA view)

what are these... blobs? screenshots anyone?

sadly no screenshot is possible as they have gone invisible hence the discussion

they render polls impossible (but this is good not bad) and also the search function, since you can't choose posts instead of threads to look through

aha, interesting...

I think there are two different blobs being discussed:
- radio buttons that you use to make choices in polls and searches
- little circles at the start of thread titles on "new answers" pages that are either filled or not depending on if they contain unread messages based on your viewing history

the first of these are the BLOBS, the second just some old circles of no consequence to me whatever

Surely not JR Ewing Larry Hagman?
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0068271/

Larry Hagman
Young Hobo

Soundcloud rap Larry was the best Larry.

Oh wait, we have been talking about different things then. Radio buttons are working fine; this must be something your end Mark

ok lol like what

actually maybe it IS mojave:
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-fix-chromes-checkboxes-and-buttons-in-macos-moja-1827398550

did you embiggen the page?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/npvtagb5ys003st/File%2017-11-18%2C%2009%2052%2054.jpeg?raw=1

Assuming we are alll talking about the same things the blogs are the bullets next to the thread. They go hollow when a thread you have read before has new answer.

They are working for me.

everyone is using "blobs" to mean those, except for the person who started using the word blobs

it's a good word and i'm not changing it, be the price eternal misunderstanding (also not being able to vote in polls which i don't care about)

Did you try the extension, mark?

Does newer chrome fix this?

haven't tried anything yet, will look into it in the next couple days

you've a week until the autechre NTS3 poll finishes.

The 2018 lists thread keeps showing up in my bookmarks under its original title ('The 2017 album lists thread').

yep, no way to fix that afaik

Doesn't removing then adding the bookmark again fix it?

you can always spot the IT guy

xp no

suggested extension does indeed fix this problem (sadly)

Grimes/Claire Boucher thread [Started by der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku) in January 2012, last updated Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:18 by Matt DC on I Love Music] 68 new answers

This thread's broken on SNA - there is no Matt DC post and the blob stays on unread

The solution is to take ILM off SNA, and unbookmark all ILM threads.

Matt has probably deleted his post to thread. Add another post, it’ll start working again

Hey guys, I'm not sure exactly what 'search by username' is doing atm but I can at least confirm that it's not searching by username.

just searched for posts by you, and it worked.

braver than the troops

Weird. It's pulling seemingly random results for every name I try. Sometimes it'll pull a thread/post that includes a word from the user's name but most of the time I can't tell why I'm getting the results I'm getting.

(NB, I am indeed using double quotes, to no avail.)

want to send me the specifics of what you're searching? email in profile or ILXmail works too

hey why are exclamation points ... showing up as periods

...

...

:O

(PS Apparently my problem from earlier was specifically BECAUSE I was enclosing usernames in double quotes. No quotes and the search works fine. So it's all good. No idea what's up with the exclamation marks, though............)

it's a long-brewing anti-... agenda

nic offer? nick off, morelike

-stet, 2018

Oops❗️

The "exclamation points turning to periods" thing is happening to me, too

Yeah, the substitution is there sitewide, but I don't know who put it there or why. I could remove it, but I want to know why it was created first. If it was just comedy modding, it can go.

I’ve removed it, I think!

was it a comedy auto replace by some mod

?!?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

!working

Just now upon refreshing the page most of the thread titles are suddenly bold...

Is it just me?

nah most titles are bold now for me too

Oddly the boldness starts here, in the middle of a thread title and everything below is bold including the thread info that trails it:

listening as / work [Started by gaz (gaz) in January 2003, last updated four minutes ago by niels on I Love Music] 1 new answer

lol just about to ask

aaargh it's spreading

you can see the botched html code in the thread title if you open it

my bad er bold

Should be fixed now.

yes

system misses gaz

Reminds me of my classic bit where I deliberately revived a bunch of threads with bbcode errors to do that to sna, & changed my screen name to “italics mine”

you are my favorite ilxor, you know that, right?

I did not and don’t believe it! I have had some classic bits tho for sure

remember whem you kept making search unusable you prick

lot of poxy fule errors for posts containing embedded tweets. no obvious pattern to it, but it's pretty common right now.

yeah das been happening for a while

it happened a lot and then it stopped and now it is happening again

(please use these exact words in the jira ticket stet)

I see it in the logs and think I know what it is. If victims could please email me a link that isn't working for them that'd be great, thanks

ilx always struck me as a solarwinds kinda joint

just sent you an ilxmail, stet

Thank you! It's fixed now

What happened to the board descriptions(?)

Huh, I see they show up on the Web; they've disappeared from Zing

If you go into settings on Zing and turn on snippets they'll reappear

Ah, thanks!

hi I don’t like the “link” instead of permalink it’s too easy to misclick on “flag” if you are a man with very large hands and fingers such as myself

seem to be missing some spaces

https://i.imgur.com/b4XYZZU.png

Braggin 2012

xp

should be better now

I saw "link" show up and was shook to my core

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtC6U8hOZTk

all crammed together again for me now on Macbook Pro/Firefox

Same browser? You might have an old copy saved. Try shift + reload

Is this at the expense of stylesheets - the hard reload created the space but changed the fonts.

have the 'bookmark'/'flag'/'link' links changed to lowercase or am i losing my mind

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

(they have)

same as andrew on old.css

i'll probably get used to it

well at least i can cross one potential manifestation of encroaching insanity off my list, cheers lbi

Right back atcha dude <3

what to make of k3vin k.'s big hands?

just imho, the new arrangement of those links is cleaner visually, but tougher functionally - they do seem to run together a bit.

they should all be sPoNgEbOb CaSe imo

stet/keith or whoever is in charge of code these days, make it so

|\|0RM4N P|-|4Y.css

Is the original font on old.css gone for good?

stet it looks fine now here at work, probably just the old browser thx

font on old.css seems to be georgia now; think it used to be times new roman (?)

can't figure out how to make this not look like crap on safari :/

https://i.imgur.com/ijPP47O.png

What stylesheet are you using, Mordy?

in caek.css this looks like one single bookmarkflaglink by the way

i think the change from flag is a huge welcome from the tyranny of flag post

shd've changed it to "this fucking guy" then

wait that's not an upvote? oops

Bookmark ..... ogmor
flag ..... nixon twitter
link ...... alfred

Harsh on Dennis Perrin imo

i'm using style2 i think?

bah Georgia was always MY lily-gilding technique for old.css, using my browser settings. can't believe i have to share this one true look with the rest of you heathen

i'm using style and am having the same prob as mordy ... i see "bookmarkflaglink" crammed together in v tiny font flushed all the way to the right of the page

OK should be fixed on all of those listed. And 3270, because why not

not fixed on mine

yeah same

tried shift refreshing as well

If you go here can you tell me what it says in the "you are currently using style" line at the top?

I'm seeing the issue, using keith.css

Fixed all the CSS now, including Keith. Apparently on Windows you need to hold CTRL and click refresh, so that might help too

fwiw the font is still different on old.css

Yeah, that's intentional. I'm thinking about adding a separate font preference though

Fixed it for me (on Win10, used shift-refresh to get it to work).

in caek.css this looks like one single bookmarkflaglink by the way

― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:56 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i use lagoon.css

this is still fucked up for me - using styles.css. i tried chrome + safari and both have the problem.

Font preference for old.css would be appreciated! or anything that lets it go back to the old font, thx!

Btw just want to say I like the new looks and thanks for the effort!

oh wait, caek.css looks like the old style? Maybe can just use that

ahhh caek me

haha it's got too much space between posts though! the truth continues to be undeniable: all those who wish to view ILX other than how it appeared in 2001 are monsters

Thanks for the caek tip, this font is the true and correct ILX font, accept no substitutes

caek.css sucks. i just loaded it and it's bad. lagoon.css is where it's at.

Woah I just now refreshed (old.css) and the font went all biggity.

(Not complaining rly, i'm half blind anyway)

lagoon.css, what is this suck.com web 1.5 bullshit?!

Having massive amounts of white space on either side of my screen makes me an intellectual

I joke, but I couldn't edit a css template to save my life. Really, hold a gun to my head and try me!

caek.css is great if you like reading incredibly hard to read long lines of text. maybe it's less of an issue now no one writes posts longer than 20 works.

*words

p.sure "great if you like reading incredibly hard to read long lines of text" is the official ilx slogan

i must admit i still like caek.css because it presents an oddly impenetrable screen at work. people’s eyes just sort of glaze away from it.

i honestly get antsy looking at any other stylesheet now. i guess this mainly applies to viewing on a PC monitor tho

Is there any difference between caek.css and the old.css style, apart from the font? Doesn't look like it on a quick diff -- what was the point, caek?

At the risk of a cuff around the ear, is there any chance of getting capitals back on Bookmark / Flag / Link?

I like it lower-case. It goes better with the lower-case datestamp. Low profile, like

I’m using kenan dark and it’s still one word of bookmarkflaglink but I don’t mind it

the world is everything that is lower case

the worst case

the world is everything that is lower case

A proposition is a picture of a FAP.

They're the only lower case links on the page, I think - at least change all the rest of the links to lower case, so I can finally quit this site.

At the risk of a cuff around the ear, is there any chance of getting capitals back on Bookmark / Flag / Link?

i am even getting complaints about this in my own home but i still say no, never, forwards not backwards! i might even write a style rule to downcase everything everywhere

xp yes I have the Remove Bookmark from this Thread capitals in my sights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMoRS_9bcM

this is still looking weird on swiss.css on a mac

never not lower case