A GENTRIFIED STREET IN WILLIAMSBURG

he look downtrodden and lost,
the saddest shibuya hipster of all.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/cops_haul_in_burg_lane_painters_3ozCy3Q2TI2wUska9wvBnM

this whole bike lane shit is ridiculous imo.

Many of the hipster cyclists wear too little clothing

cutty^

is that really why they removed it? they go too fast and wear too little clothing? because can't they just keep riding through without the lane
also lol @ We are New York City bicyclists and our message is clear

they're going to wear the same amount of clothing on bikes or not. wizzing by you'll see them for less time.

this is actually pretty funny, though incredibly sarcastic. yes, it calls my house 'krapp' and it's true, my bldg is nothing special or historical but whatever. once all those condos are done, we will be the poor ppl on the street! gentrification at work!
― tehresa, Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:36 AM

hahaha so funny because the ppl building the condos still hadn't finished *most* of them by the time i moved 2 years later, including the bldg next door which was just abandoned by the builder.

Hey brooklyn ppl. I will be in Williamsburg for a night next weekend and am trying to find a hotel near there or within a reasonable distance. Any suggestions or am I better off taking the train back into Manhattan and finding one there?

As far as I can tell, yr better off staying in another part of Brooklyn. I tried to find a hotel or b&b for my parents last weekend and they ended up staying at St Mark's Hotel right on Astor Place. There just wasn't anything remotely convenient or reasonably priced on the east side of Manhattan near the L train.

Maybe there's an East Village hostel or something that would work?

I don't know anyplace budget. This looks pretty good location wise:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60827-d1007626-Reviews-Hotel_Le_Jolie-Brooklyn_New_York.html

It's almost 200 a night but that's the same as what the Holiday Inn Express in Park Slope costs per night

this is kinda interesting

http://www.nylofthostel.com/

farther out on the L but cheap

ENBB u can sleep over my place

i'll get am0n to come

O_o

XD

D:

ha ha cutty - You're never going to let me live that down.

Thanks guys. Might have a place to stay with friends but it's not confirmed yet so just trying to make a backup plan.

Le Jolie is booked. I think I might end up booking at that Park Slope Holiday Inn because I found a good deal online but will check out the other suggestions. Thanks again.

:D

http://www.hotellebleu.com/

"Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope..." right next to a taxi dispatch.

http://www.nuhotelbrooklyn.com/

near G train downtown BK

Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope
Located on Fourth Avenue in the heart of one of Brooklyn’s exclusive neighborhoods, Park Slope

My parents stayed in a place right on 14th btw 2nd and 3rd that they liked. Union square inn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMxaqV9eqKs&feature=player_embedded

oh goodness.

6/10
Music
90s Singalong
Legion Bar, 790 Metropolitan Ave., Williamsburg
After a two-month hiatus, Secret Formula’s 90s singalong is back! Over 2 hours of hand subtitled 90′s music videos projected on the big screen for the entire crowd to sing-along to. Wear your 90′s gear and win some free drinks and other cool prizes! $3 Atomic Lagers and $5 beer and shot specials.

Anyone have any opinion about Metropolitan Ave east of the Graham L? We were going to take this place between Olive and Catherine but we're having serious doubts all of the sudden -- block is super deserted.

Disgruntled Williamsburg Resident Arrested After Making 403 Phony 911 Calls About Hipsters

They really need to print the transcripts of those calls, possibly as a coffee-table book. Would option.

a book of tweets abt 911 calls abt hipsters

a book of tweets abt 9/11 calls abt hipsters

a book of tweets abt 91.1 calls abt hipsters

totally plausible best show episode actually

you can say what you want about williamsburg and hipsters, but imo the real problem for williamsburg in 2013 is going to the yuppies.

williamburg all grown up

first they came for the hipsters and i said nothing

too busy drinking my martini with artisinally pickled onions

last time I was in Williamsburg I def noticed a lot more thousand-dollar baby strollers roving the sidewalk than usual

i had lunch w someone there last week who was all is it just me or are there more yuppies around since i was here a few years ago

also hipsters just turn into yuppies as they age is something to consider

everyone turns into their parents

help, i've realized i'm a Yindie (or am i a yupster?)

someone's gotta live in all those kent avenue hi-rises

yup

they paved monster island and put up a parking lot

- bob marley

sad but true rip cool things

the only difference between a yuppie and a hipster is $20k a year

you can say what you want about williamsburg and hipsters, but imo the real problem for williamsburg in 2013 is going to the yuppies.

― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, January 7, 2013 7:31 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

has gone to -- there are two duane reades, there are high-end baby boutiques, there's a Paul Smith store, etc. The VC guy who marries Jessa on Girls lives in Williamsburg and it's not even sneezed at on the show.

come to chinatown guys people still dont make money here

jessa married a vc guy!

lol sorry spoiler alert but it's a little late for that

When we lived in williamsburg and first had the baby we joined local parent meet-up groups and around half the people were usually in finance or maybe law. The other half were on the verge of not being able to pay their rent anymore.

Well actually maybe 1/3, cuz there were also the people who were in lower-paid creative type jobs but had bought when prices were low

I still hear of not rich kids moving to wburg, but I guess they live chinatown style?

I had never seen grand st west of the bqe until recently cause I don't spend so much time in wburg, was surprised at how posh it was

the deli on the corner where i used to be able to get aspirin for a hangover is now a boutique ladies clothing store #hipsterproblems

the real crime is that oslo coffee packs its beans in brown paper bags, wth

I still hear of not rich kids moving to wburg, but I guess they live chinatown style?

― iatee, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 1:08 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My friend's younger sister who was a dance major but otherwise is pretty mainstreamy/not very artsy or hipstery just moved to williamsburg out of college and I think she lives in a tiny apartment with several roommates and still overpays. It's probably like the EV/LES where you get these already small apartments further subdivided so you have to get up from the kitchen table and move it in order for your roommate to get to the bathroom.

i visited williamsburg recently after being away for a few years ... i guess the change in noticed b/t 2007 and 2012 is ironic rich people have now made way for unironic rich people. also there's no way in hell i could afford to live there now.

The rent climb in the last two years has been fucking insane. Part of why we left our place was a 20% increase in a place that was already stretching us. I still think it's weird because Williamsburg is ugly and stupid.

williamsburg is way smaller than I thought it would be

it's just like this one street w/ some shops on it

um, it's really big actually, you're just talking about Bedford Ave

yeah williamsburg is enormous, I always get lost too

http://wikitravel.org/upload/shared/0/07/Brooklyn_districts_map.png

actually I guess that map counts all of bushwick as williamsburg so forget that

lol that is NOT a realistic neighborhood map

also, greenpoint

yeah sry, you basically have to cut out the panhandle and the part that says "McGuinness"

and all the neighborhoods in flatbush; etc

well they used to be called flatbush

williamsburg is basically just one street w some shops on it

central park is basically just this fountain with some trees around it

I dunno, there's restaurants and things happening all over wb

well there are lots of buildings that people live in, but there are only a few real commercial streets

green point was dope when I went I like green point

also see everywhere in ny that isn't manhattan

its one street w two duane reads on it case closed

greenpoint is toxic, you probably have cancer now

greenpoint is an ironic name

is broadway part of wburg because I like that part too

theres a really dope supermarket called the 'food bazaar' that is awesome

Queens is just this big strip mall and a couple of indian restaurants*

*actually true

queens is just one street 40th avenue, 40th street, 40th lane, 40th place, 40th road

some of broadway is clearly wburg, eventually it isn't wburg anymore

Brooklyn is a great neighborhood

you know what's overrated, flushing

it's basically a toilet

according to that map i live "downtown"

a lot of people consider brooklyn the 6th borough

We just went to flushing and it was so disappointing! We were like, "mongolion hotpot with yak penis, I'll pass thank you, let's get the zagat-rated pho instead" which turned out to be meh and not even as good as the place we used to go to in jersey city. Then we watched some Chinese Evangelicals do a Christmas thing and then went home. The vibe of the area was v boring.

I like the malls

there is some dope ass food in flushing no lie folks

recs please

its not in flushing but im just gonna start off w sripraphai cause i would rather go there than any place in flushing

yeah I've been there it's good

eh you probably should have had the mongolian hot pot w/ yak penis

i had the kimchi dumpings in the mall they were good but prob just more novel than anything

http://www.yelp.com/biz/ganesh-temple-canteen-flushing

this place is fun to go to

eh you probably should have had the mongolian hot pot w/ yak penis

― 乒乓, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:33 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

your mom should have had the mongolian hot pot w/ yak penis

she did, it was very tasty

i went to this place a couple times that has a huge crab sticky rice thing that was good

because I heard it's really good

i went to a soup dumpling place

i think everywhere ive been is on this map http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/07/29/dining/20080730_FLUSHING_INTERACTIVE.html

tho actually i think ive been to a dim sum place thats not on there

queens is just one street 40th avenue, 40th street, 40th lane, 40th place, 40th road

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not only is where I live like this, but I just found the intersection of 112th Street and 113th Street, and I have no idea where 111th street or 109th street is although I live near 108th

I went to 'spicy and tasty' a few weeks ago, apparently the 2nd best sichuan food in all of NYC, was solid but not transcendent : (

have u been to that place in midtown its p good

a lot of times they just skipped streets and avenues, or lots of them xp

most of the food choices on that map seem p boring

nah I will go when I can lasso up ppl tho xp

this place does p good soup DUMPLINGS! and u dont even need to go to flushing http://www.yelp.com/biz/shanghai-asian-manor-new-york

there are many many soup DUMPLINGS! in the manhattan chinatown its true

in a part of maspeth 60th st, road, drive, lane, plaza, court and avenue are all next to each other xp

what is suposed to be the best sichuan restaurant

supposedly some place u need to drive to from flushing

fn a

456 shnghai is p dope tho not particularly for them soup DUMPLINGS!

its not in flushing but im just gonna start off w sripraphai cause i would rather go there than any place in flushing

this made me p happy

great ny noodle town is better than 456 shanghai imo

is uncle zhaos in flushing, uncle zhaos is good

i feel like the thing with going to chinese restaurants is that the menu is like 1000 items long and theres a lot of overlap and i never really know what to order, like probably i just ordered the wrong thing at 456 shanghai and the right thing at great ny noodletown

max have you ever been to noodle town not wasted in the middle of the night cause i have some news for you you might want to sit down

456 shanghai is easy to order from because they have the nytimes recommended dishes right there on the cover of the menu lol

xian famous foods is p good too but ive never been to the flushing one just the one on st marks

have never been to great ny noodletown but it always looks p shady when I walk by

dogg i was there last night and it was as delicious as it always is, again you have to follow my order, but just trust me and get the duck e-foo, the duck with flowering chives, the salt-baked shrimp, and like one more thing a veggie or something

the xian famous foods that was litereally 2 minutes from me just closed, rip $3 lamb burger dinners

dont get me wrong 456 shanghai was good but i was like, this is not so much crazy better than GNYN

if u are just getting duck from that place that just seems like standard canto roast duck, widely available everywhere in ctown

dayo noodle town is open v late and u live nearby, im gonna let you connect the dots, it will be there for you when you need it, also they deliver

they r on seamless

i mean im open to suggestions but i feel like ive never had better roast duck in nyc

the pictures on yelp make uncle zhous look v promising

dont get me wrong 456 shanghai was good but i was like, this is not so much crazy better than GNYN

― max, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i really v much dig the honey pork shoulder, i think ive gotten it three times

my feeling is that most places in ctown source their roast ducks from some roasting factory way out elsewhere, roasting takes time + space

yeah i had uncle zhous the other night and it was p great, the chicken wings especially, also all the noodles

I would probably literally murder a small child if a place would open that actually does beijing roast duck right, man I miss beijing roast duck

theres just one giant roasting kitchen underneath chinatown connected to every restaurant via tunnels

this is also my theory w the 6th st indian restaurants

I have heard about some indian/chinese fusion restaurants, will make it a resolution to investigate in the new year

dayo as a chinese food expert do you have an opinion on that place in the west village

red farm? red egg? or something

I have heard about some indian/chinese fusion restaurants, will make it a resolution to investigate in the new year

― 乒乓, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:01 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yah in like the east 20s or 30s whatever that fuckin no mans land is called there are some i went to one once it was good but i dont really remember that much

I think there is probably 'indian/chinese ~fusion~' but there is also indian-style chinese food, like the indian take on it

chinese restaurants i ate at in india were def indian/chinese fusion

never heard of it

my indian friend told me it was its own thing, like adjusted for indian tastes sorta like chinese food in america or france or whatever is adjusted for the audience

iatee is otm that there are cool malls in flushing, new world mall is p cool, has a really cool food court where there was a 'bar' that was advertising buy 1 get 1 free $1.50 pints and they just had a keg in a kegerator it was cute

I like all the tiny stores with like 10 things in them

max do u mean this place? http://www.yelp.com/biz/red-egg-new-york-3

dim sum not really my thing but having lived in the land of dim sum the pix look dece

have also heard about jamaican chinese food, things like jerk chicken fried rice, want to investigate as well

no -- actually i ahve been to red egg thats why i was being confused -- red egg is okay it like turns into a club at night? -- red farm is the other place: http://redfarmnyc.com/

"modern" chinese

new yorks famous chinese burritos are a classic fusion dining experience

there is a place near me called china one taco house

theres a place in ft greene that when it was under construction had a big temporary sign that said 'coming soon tex-mexican foo'

we have a chinese/indian truck near work sometimes -- chinese mirch. it's alright

I was on a way to a party near the stadium and stopped by a taco shop, walked in and it was chinese people cooking, ordered a bean burrito w/ cheese, it was p good for like $1.20

up on myrtle thers a place that advertises "chinese and spanish food" have not investigated

no -- actually i ahve been to red egg thats why i was being confused -- red egg is okay it like turns into a club at night? -- red farm is the other place: http://redfarmnyc.com/

"modern" chinese

― max, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

looks intriguing, expensive so they probably got their shit together, I've had 'modern' chinese in china before and it was okay, guess people probably walk out of this resto feeling they got their moneys worth

kum kao? xp

j/k i know its not kum kao just want to say kum kao

have also heard about jamaican chinese food, things like jerk chicken fried rice, want to investigate as well

theres a jamican place here that does 'chinese food' in addition to regular west indian stuff thats really good - the curry chow mein is really good and as is the jerk fried rice

i love kum kau.
so much.

it is a ton of fun to go there and eat the lunch special and just hang out with the bros.

alert alert daddy's is closed tomorrow for a private event! a gentrified street in williamsburg!

big fucking deal the clintons attended a private dinner at Roberta's

Which, btw, apparently also has some kind of $150 prix fixe chef's table tasting menu thing in the back speaking of a gentrified street?

roberta's also in the blogosphere recently for having a mostly-nude waitress?

pfft w/e i used to go to that place when it first opened cause one of the owners is tangentially known to me, so over it

I heard you sold your pizza stones and bought sous vide machines

oh what a backwards scene

guys, do you think williamsburg is racist

hipster taco cart declared "less skanky"

ill ride for robertas the food is really good

tbh i've never been to roberta's.

I havent been yet, we tried once and it was too crowded. Hour waits and toddlers don't mix.

yeah the wait is fucked up

we went on friday and i called at like 6:45 and there was no wait for four and we got there at 7:30 and the wait was 2.5 hours

like... when i go to a restaurant, it is because i am hungry. pretty much any time a wait is more than 20 minutes, i split.
there are v few exceptions to this.

its cool i wouldnt force anyone to go to robertas. i mean the thing is theyve got a decent bar in the back and its nbd to post up for a couple hours and order a snack, you just have to be willing to do this going in

man, when i lived in williamsburg, weed delivery was a lot faster.

went to this place the other day, not as 'hip' maybe as yr 'bushwick' 'robertas' but the pizza was dooope http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/co

it takes them literally like three minutes to make it so you can order one and then be all hmm maybe ill take another AND BOOM

their crust had just the right chew

yeah co is really good too!!

good spot to take out of towners after u do the high line imo

that fire they have projected on their wall i really want it to be a live stream of the fire inside the oven

I wanna try Barboncino on Franklin, can't believe I didn't know about that place, I had someone from Sunset Park schooling me on good pizza in (sot of) my own neighborhood

also relevant, this guy was complaining about creeping hipster influx into Sunset Park lol

go south. bensonhurst. finally. hipster free.

you know what ... I haven't had pizza yet since moving to NYC :-}

like you havent just been hungry walking around and ate a slice

those slices always suck

I take that back I had some from two brothers like a week ago

I mean contextually they are okay

strombolis on 1st ave is p tite, and south brooklyn pizza is dope as hell

no wait not two bros, two boots

two boots is good

I am lucky enough to at least have this place:

http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/nicks-pizza01/

where I have not had long waits and it is v good, though still a notch or two below the best places I've tried.

If you want a great regular slice in lower manhattan I rep Joe's in the West Village.

I also confess to never having been to Roberta's. I'm generally like Ian -- will usually take second option @ 20 minute wait vs. first choice at 1+ hr wait.

also relevant, this guy was complaining about creeping hipster influx into Sunset Park lol

― dmr, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:35 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

go south. bensonhurst. finally. hipster free.

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:36 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a relevant question to this thread is do you think New York will ever run out of hipsters? I'm always the grouchy guy lecturing people about how "JUST BECAUSE HIPSTERS ARE SPREADING OUT TO X NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL TAKE OVER ALL OF BROOKLYN WHICH IS FUCKING HUGE" so far I have been wrong but there's a long way to go.

or rather, yes I think it will eventually run out, but how far will it spread?

hipsters really only are a plurality in a handful of small neighborhoods in a city w/ 8m people

im telling you guys, if you go at 7 ready to have a few pre-dinner drinks and snacks and assume you wont eat till 9, robertas is great

I still haven't been to Uncle Zhou's--I really want to go.

I'm doing a work thing tomorrow at one of the Grand Sichuan Internationals--is that any good?

if youre just doing hotpot prob cant go too wrong

grand sich is classic

with max on robertas. some good brews in the back yard

im telling you guys, if you go at 7 ready to have a few pre-dinner drinks and snacks and assume you wont eat till 9, robertas is great

― max, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:54 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does this mean there's a bar area where you can order said drinks and snacks prior to being seated?

yeah there's a couple actually. it's a whole complex

wow who knew

i mean basically, theres a bar, and then theres an outdoor space that in the summer they tent up and put a hot wood stove in. but either way

i did keg stands back there

i am the ultimate broster

I like that we had this whole roberta's convo without max mentioning the naked "peace out" waitress, I didn't read gawker until later that night haha

later last night I meant

secret w33d tasting menu
http://www.gq.com/food-travel/recipes/201207/weed-and-stoner-food-recipes-robertas-brooklyn#ixzz2Aow2OaIp

Shouldn't they probably not be writing about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyN-NTRRKHs

in cambodia any pizza place will make you a weed pizza just ask for a extra special happy pizza #protip

http://bushwickdaily.com/2013/09/city-planning-commission-shocked-by-the-lack-of-community-involvement-at-bushwick-rezoning-public-hearing/#more-21006

I don't know if I actually have a problem with this rezoning -- sounds like something that makes sense to do -- but wtf is it with every new building built in the boroughs looking like the fucking suburbs lately?

http://bushwickdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/rezoning-rendering-500x331.jpg

Argh, fucking hideous Toll Brothers style garbage -- if it looks that bad even in the picture, imagine what it looks like in ten years when it's all scuffed up.

100% with you on both those points

itd be cool if they cut a lot of the red tape associated with building, cause nyc desperately needs more housing, but then added some rules about making things look beautiful, not sure how you judge that but you know

aesthetics committee

or ilx poll

otm

those buildings are so poorly constructed too, a friend of mine was showing on one in willmsbrg how the outside non structural panels are made of this styrofoam type material that you can literally just kick holes in w yr foot

why someone would but a condo in one of those instead of in a sick ass old factory reno is beyond me (nb i know nothing abt how much such things cost at all)

probably costs a ton more but there'd be a line of rich fuckers out the door willing to pay it I'm sure

yeah im guessing but still

also in that rendering it looks like ghosts live there. who wants a haunted condo

or they have invisibility cloaks

by the ghosts of ur hipsters no doubt

Yeah my understanding is it costs way more to reno a factory than to just do a complete teardown and rebuild in most cases.

i just don't fucking get it, that's some sub-bethesda-maryland shit right there, that's like a timeshare building in florida

well its doesnt really matter how much it costs, it matters how much people will pay, tho obvs it makes sense that people would pay more to live in a building thats not made of plastic

people who live in plastic buildings shouldn't vote at a city council meeting

well its doesnt really matter how much it costs, it matters how much people will pay, tho obvs it makes sense that people would pay more to live in a building thats not made of plastic

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:41 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a little simplified, I mean it's really more about how much more people will pay vs how much more it costs, i.e. a lil something called profit margin. And also how much financing you can get to build it. Not to mention that there are probably some old industrial buildings that are just too dilapidated/unsound to renovate.

sry hurting just take yr real estate owning like man

I mean it might be like Scenario A we can demolish and then build 50 brand new plastic-ass apartments for a total of $20 million dollars, get the thing built real quick and flip em to suckas for an average of $500K each -- boom, quick five million dollar profit.

Whereas scenario B we can build like 40 one-million dollar apartments, but it will cost us 36 million to do the renovation, plus it will take two years so there's more risk.

*100% realistic numbers used above

so you in or what

i doubt building a whole new building is cheaper than renovating a factory, maybe when you consider what you have to pay for a factory but having paid for the factory i dont think anyones knocking one down

what if the factory was a factory that manufactured apartments, hmmm, have you ever thought of that

of course i thought of that fn n00b

i doubt building a whole new building is cheaper than renovating a factory, maybe when you consider what you have to pay for a factory but having paid for the factory i dont think anyones knocking one down

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok, but it is sometimes, for all kinds of reasons -- structural issues, difficulties getting a certain building up to code for residential, presence of asbestos and the like, suboptimal use of footprint (i.e. you could build a lot more apartments in a new taller/wider building than you could in the existing factory) etc.

sure, but generally it seems like developers are pretty psyched to do conversions

when i was walking around wbugr during hurricane sandy there were all these weird new condo buildings w/ sculpted hedges out front and lobbies

i felt kind of sad because it was obvious they were new, if only they had been allowed to make them 100 stories or something (i think the tallest was like 10 floors), think of how much housing pressure that would have relieved

downtown bk has a bunch of new towers, guess its ok there

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/nyregion/city-plans-redevelopment-for-vacant-area-in-lower-manhattan.html

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/09/18/nyregion/18stewart-park/18stewart-park-popup.jpg

i felt kind of sad because it was obvious they were new, if only they had been allowed to make them 100 stories or something (i think the tallest was like 10 floors), think of how much housing pressure that would have relieved

if only these ugly expensive unaffordable condo towers were ten times taller

well theyre not unaffordable to everyone, and if the people who can afford them moved in there then the shitty apartments they move out of would become more affordable

and if youre gonna build ugly ass buildings somewhere it might as well be williamsburg since the pre existing buildings are also ugly ass

but like i said making pretty tall building is way preferable

building super tall buildings in Brooklyn is one more step towards nyc becoming the america blade runner, which is what everybody involved in the discussion agrees on is the best possible outcome

totally

i remember standing on the brooklyn bridge once looking all at midtown and downtown and north jersey and brooklyn and long island city and thinking this is a pretty cool ass place but you know what would even be cooler if it was like ten times as big <<an actually thought i had

this is a cool map btw http://bdon.org/2013/09/12/building-age-nyc

building super tall buildings in Brooklyn is one more step towards nyc becoming the america blade runner, which is what everybody involved in the discussion agrees on is the best possible outcome

convincing post, I rescind my objections

this is a cool map btw http://bdon.org/2013/09/12/building-age-nyc

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:43 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow. that's cool. if accurate my building in the slope is from 1899.

I was hanging out on the LIC waterfront recently and I thought it looked like it was designed for people who did not want to feel the slightest reminder that they were in New York City.

that is the most confusing thing about so much new construction

I sorta feel like a lot of people live in the city who actually hate living in the city (or cities).
and they don't know it yet about themselves, but I do.

maybe these buildings look like dorms and people are trying to relive their cool college years?

I sorta feel like a lot of people live in the city who actually hate living in the city (or cities).
and they don't know it yet about themselves, but I do.

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otm

I think those lower manhattan buildings are not bad looking, but what's going on in the lower sections -- is that like a parking garage or mall-style retail or something?

do you need me to read the article 4 u

The development would include retail markets, restaurants, office space, a movie theater, parks, an Andy Warhol Museum and 1,000 apartments.

kewl

busy ass spot to live at imho right at the foot of the bridge

i just hope it's not mall-style like south street seaport though -- the big footprint of the lower half of the building makes it look like some stuff must face the interior of the building. But maybe that's just the movie theater and "Andy Warhol Museum"

that's how I feel about all those new downtown BK buildings like Oro, you're living in a tower above a big congested Manhattan Bridge on-ramp (xpost)

that South Street Seaport mall closed! think they're just building a nicer mall there though basically

if i lived in a building w a movie theater id prob see every movie

xp yeah I know, it was a huge failure.

people who build malls inside of cities are disgusting savages imo

my building is from 1964, and i'm pretty sure the air conditioner is an original.

i look forward to when you can travel everywhere you need to go via sky bridges and you never need to touch the ground

http://i.imgur.com/EVY0NzD.jpg

acme smoked fish facility is on gem iirc

I fucking love Acme

Used to kill a tub of whitefish salad

Was just back in the Graham Ave area yesterday and was glad to see Carmine's is still going strong. Took the kids for a slice. So good.

anybody been to the Park Church Co-Op - the huge Lutheran cathedral on the edge of McGorlick park? Apparently they have movie showings and alcohol there now for some events?