please temp-ban Mordy from the Thatcher Is Dead thread

seriously, trolling people who are happy in an RIP thread is just as lame as trolling people who are sad in some other RIP thread.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/9b761fddbdc620c3b671fe657b2d8973/tumblr_mkr0fwAvNM1ru09vqo1_500.gif

we can't celebrate the death of a tyrant by curtailing somebody's right to take the piss

lol sleeve u are hilarious

Mordy you're a weirdly tiresome cock, sometimes tbh.

wow I'm about 10 hours late for this but FUCK YOU MORDY

― sleeve, Monday, April 8, 2013 8:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

( I am reading choice excerpts from this thread over live radio right now and unfortunately saw his posts when scrolling back)

― sleeve, Monday, April 8, 2013 8:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh

Ban mordy, he started to explain himself, woeful trolling

some kind of small prize for mordy imo, thread would have been v dull otherwise

want to know what this is about though

how funny would it be if after exerting all that self-control a few months ago and not starting the super awesome clusterfucky poll to end all clusterfucky polls i ended up getting FP'd from some light casual trolling on the Thatcher dead thread?

― Mordy, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 01:44 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't object to mordy's trolling, i object to mordy entering a thread that was not about mordy and making it all about mordy

super awesome clusterfucky poll to end all clusterfucky polls

are you talking about are the rolling hip-hop threads racist?

i don't know what he was talking about and he's done a *drops mic* so /:

i dont know when mordy adopted the sub-zizek discourse-trolling posting schtick but i feel like its going to pay huge dividends in '13

― max, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 20:42 (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't object to mordy's trolling, i object to mordy entering a thread that was not about mordy and making it all about mordy
This basically.

So a guy goes into a thread, announces that he's going to troll, proceeds to troll and you somehow managed to humour him.

As far as I know the thread wasn't about Mordy at all until a load of people who didn't understand what he was doing started jumping on him, and it's not about Mordy now.

I dont see how him announcing he's trolling gives him any kind of pass, frankly. It is irritating even more because it is overt!

(lol my SN seems like a follow on comment in context)

As far as I know the thread wasn't about Mordy at all until a load of people who didn't understand what he was doing started jumping on him, and it's not about Mordy now.

he did like 800 posts before he had even baited anyone iirc

if you can't troll the thatcher death thread then she's fuckin won

i just like the idea of sleeve reading ilx out over the radio then getting to mordys posts and getting SO MAD, thats trolling synergy right there

ilx: the radio show?

eh?

just a bit of fun, let's be cool

I'm here to defend Mordy. It's the rest of ILX that sucks!!

ooof he won't like that

damned with frog praise

nah it's cool. frogbs is my bro.

brogsf

mordy's keyboard dusted for frog prints

all of this is full-on amazing

a day that will live in infamy

Legacy costs

of all the clusterfucks i've participated in on ilx, this must be one of the least clusterfucky i think

aside from the vicious anti-semitism obv

lol darragh

nakh shared this quote w/ me about thatcher:

There had never been a cabinet with so many Jewish men - me, Michael Howard, Leon Brittan. I wondered why, and the conclusion I came to is not that she had a thing for Jews, but that she was one of those rare politicians without the faintest whiff of antisemitism.

Nakh being in Thatcher's cabinet does explain a lot

and i think , tbh, that the majority of the anti-thatcher sentiment on ilx might well have its root there as opposed to the policies that so many of them apologise for under nu-labour

Well you're the expert on British politics after all

i've got critical distance tbftm

Nowhere near enough distance if you ask me

jealous cos we managed the break in 1921 imo

You'd never guess

well we have a functioning labour party, it's true

we don't need to persistently sacrifice our butt comfort in the protection of a fake one, like

Guys, u r playing right into her trap

forks, how many SBs do i have???

OBJECTION YOUR HONOUR, the correct term is FPs

About 30

sustained, may counsel please reframe the question

wtf is even going on itt anymore i am going to troll it why dont britishes have any self respect is scotland the same thing as wales and irleand they are all part of england right

Trolls be biting

30 isn't so bad actually

i may have to pace myself tho. i don't want to get banned this year.

is anyone willing to pick up the slack?

It was a decent effort mordy, you may have screwed up the landing but you stepped up and that's what counts

nah, i stuck that landing

gdamn ilx has gotten soft

maybe my left foot dragged a bit

wtf is even going on itt anymore i am going to troll it why dont britishes have any self respect is scotland the same thing as wales and irleand they are all part of england right

― lag∞n

now that's just lazy

no its... the truth!

lol when did that ever protect a troll from sb before

I accidentally emailed my mom something yesterday referencing "british" people and it was an article about happenings in Scotland

I am so, so sorry and will be doing some penance

yeah, should have been 'great british' iirc

lagoon they're not all the same, they live on different islands and stuff, but they all essentially have the same culture afaict and generally get along

oh shi

xxp "north British"

http://www.theballadeers.com/images/irm/fc_fgf_600.jpg

http://lbarts.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/famine_ship.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KsZtQ51Gt1A/S_BeFj8zEoI/AAAAAAAAAco/LG-FWifWDHQ/s400/Famine_memorial_dublin.gif

lagoon they're not all the same, they live on different islands and stuff, but they all essentially have the same culture afaict and generally get along

― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:55 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cool ty for the inof :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Thomas_mac_curtain.jpg/220px-Thomas_mac_curtain.jpg

http://www.wsm.ie/sites/default/files/james_connolly.jpg

http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/nov2011/family_evicted_by_their_landlord_during_the_irish_potato_famine.jpg

http://www.anphoblacht.com/files/old-images/2006/07/06/black-and-tans.jpg

lagoon they're not all the same, they live on different islands and stuff, but they all essentially have the same culture afaict and generally get along

― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:55 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cool ty for the inof :)

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:58 AM (2 minutes ago)

ya my understanding is that they all used to live together but then the land masses drifted and they were separated

The union jack is essentially a geneological road map connecting the islands, with the red lines showing how our british blood joins us together despite being seperated by the blue swathes of the ocean and the white cliffs of dover.

also dmac is posting pictures of potatoes, lagoon if you didn't know the english people all LOVE potatoes but most of the good potato farms were on what is now great britain, so after the continental drift the people in "ireland" didn't have any potatoes and they all starved. they were mad abt this so they started a war w/ their british brothers to get their potatoes back, they lost and the british made them all dye their hair red very funny story but also sad, a constant reminder of their defeat at the hands of the 'redcoats'

history is wild, you are like wikipedia kevin

the english people all LOVE potatoes

we call them "chips" fyi

this thread is cooler than the thatcher thread imho

why is the admin log cluttered with huge pictures of ceramic dishes?

bc forks

forks got to make sure he got all his formatting just right, be better off firming up his mug handles, haha boom

someone pointed out to me that all forks pottery pix are hosted on tumblr, u got a pottery blog b

wanna make sure ilx doesnt miss out on this important content

lmao make sure u get this hilarious joke just right, workshop that shit

Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:40 PM All Noise Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar Message edited to :
duhhhhhh i'm duhhhh duhhh hugs duhhhhh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:34 PM (5 minutes ago)

no no duhhh duhhh self aggrandizing idiocy duhhhhh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:36 PM (3 minutes ago)

damn i'm duhhh duhhhh hugs
― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:38 PM (1 minute ago)

Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:27 PM All Noise Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar Message edited to :
duhhhhhh i'm duhhhh duhhh duhhhhh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:34 PM (5 minutes ago)

no no duhhh duhhh self aggrandizing idiocy duhhhhh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:36 PM (3 minutes ago)

damn i'm duhhh duhhhh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:38 PM (1 minute ago)

ok guys i feel like we're getting off the topic of this thread which is me

u got a pottery blog

xp - dude go get another super high score on Bejeweled Blitz ok

i can't imagine anything more boring (sorry forks) pottery tho yawn

haha don't be sore sarahell

uh so like the famine was a tragedy of incredible proportions and the war of independence happened less than a century ago, the effects still felt in sectarian violence and segregation today but nice joeks guys

xp - i'm not sore! since we've been fb friends I've totally raked in the friends' score bonus coins!

god darragh you're being such a jew

the famine was a tragedy of incredible proportions

"...at the end of the day, you will pay the price if you're a fussy eater."

worst part is once a year american streets are awash in vomit and sunburn

smh at the privilege, smdh

cant help it i was born this way

do u consider leopold bloom a fellow countryman? xp

Too late, it's past six pm

Gene Wilder's not Irish (xp)

in this thread the jews and the irish get along GREAT

i stand with darragh

mordy what do you think of my facebook friends current status update

i'm not sure tbh. i guess there are similarities. juggalos and chassidim are both insulated communities w/ specific styles of dress + worship.

Yeah, Catholics get on great with Jews, always have

but it's more like being a non-practicing juggalo than just being cousins w/ a juggalo while u like idk phoenix

haha

i'm changing my religious status to 'non-practicing juggalo'

i have strong opinions about the future of jewishness in america - i think the different denomination thing is a historical anomaly and we're trending towards the pre-war model, aka everyone is jewish and ppl make private decisions about their levels of observance. you see this with chabad a lot - people who are otherwise non practicing but identify + participate in an orthodox community. u see this reflected in demographic statistics where orthodox schools + synagogues are growing and conservative/reform schools and synagogues are losing members (mostly to assimilation) and closing.

i should say "everyone is *just* jewish" i don't mean to suggest that pre-war all those irish were actually jews

Tom d, fresh from telling an irishman he has no business having an opinion on the government occupying derry, slanders the entire country as being catholic

Unreal

catholicsplaining

It'll be the dirty protest next

I'm more the emigrating, drinking type tbrr

do u like U2?

Ive only met the edge tbh

He seemed nice but awful proddy, later i learned that it was more likely dublin middle class that i mistook

i really like drinking too

great thread

thx brah

i really like yossi benayoun but it dont make me ger toshav

Erin go brah (xxxp)

u have to live in israel to be a ger toshav iirc?

i give it a 6.8 overall (too much persecutionsplaining) but lagoon clowning forks was a definite high point xps

It was jewsplaining iirc, mordy claiming to hold all the cards talking down the rest of us

roosplaining australians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeluzD_hxk

nice post

if only i were as good as you

is that avril covering a nickelback song??

indeed

markers, u're pretty cool i'm sorry i was mean to u when u first started posting to ilx. i'm glad you visited my temp-ban thread.

no worries, i don't even remember that

i was going to start a thread a week ago for crazy things i learned in Talmud tractate Sotah but i got lazy. anyway, here's a cool list:

Twelve Princes of Ishmael

Nebaioth
Kedar
Adbeel
Mibsam
Mishma
Dumah
Massa
Hadad
Tema
Jetur
Naphish
Kedmah

Twenty-three Chiefs of Esau
Teman
Omar
Zepho
Kenaz
Korah (A)
Gatam
Amalek
Nahath
Zerah
Shammah
Mizzah
Jeush
Jalam
Korah (B)
Timna
Alvah
Jetheth
Oholibamah
Elah
Pinon
Mibzar
Magdiel
Iram

All of them ^ plus Joseph threw their crowns on Jacob's coffin in Egypt out of respect acc to the Talmud. Fun facts.

oops, I made a mistake, not in Egypt, they did this in Caanan.

is that canon?

some level of canon. Rashi writes the list and gets most of it from various passages in the Tanakh but there is some debate about exactly how accurate the list is. a lot of it comes from Chronicles I 1:43-54, which lists some rulers who didn't rule until after the funeral, and Rashi doesn't account for any princes of Keturah (even tho the Talmud says they were present as well) so different commentators (Tosofos Shantz, Maharsha, Tosofos Rosh) give slightly different lists.

another fun fact: Potiphar bought Joseph originally for illicit sexual relations, so the angel Gabriel came and turned him into a Eunuch. That's why his name is originally written in the Torah as Potiphar and then later as Potiphera. Later on Potiphar's wife tried to sleep with him, thus giving us the famous song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKOJfrljowk

aaaaand off this goes to IMP

roosplaining australians

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:40 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

liked, starred, favourited, bookmarked

oh cool it's back!

still weird glitchy - got an error when posting but it posted anyway

banner day for ilx modding

hahaha

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4024/animatedgiflolwutphotos.gif

seriously, trolling people who are happy in an RIP thread is just as lame as trolling people who are sad in some other RIP thread.

i mean lol no it isnt

when did mordy go from being a chill stoner dad to ilx's #1 devil's advocate troll

i feel like this happened recently

btw mordy, you're allright in my book

think it was when I started the rolling race and racism thread

that sounds right to me

when i lost dayo to social justice sphere i realized that everything was at stake

nah it was prob back around the time when privilege started to take hold/ilx decided that the tregaskin method of screaming down discussion was ok if you cared enough or the other person arguing was swm, i think that was it tbh but i don't want to speak for mordy from a position of christian privilege

xp oh shit i overtalked mordy sorry man ;_;

can we start an "I Love Grad School" board srs question

you don't get to tell me what i think deems

i love privilege

when i first started hearing that "you don't get to tell me" formulation was pretty formative too

you dont get to tell me what i think you thought mordy

i get to tell all of you that you're making ILX suck in '13

did morbz really send you an email wishing your kid would kick you in the balls or did you make that up?

au contraire tbh imo striking back against the priv cru is an attempt to bring ilx back from the lows of 2013

obviously he sent it to me xp

do you think he should be banned for it?

no, why?

au contraire tbh imo striking back against the priv cru is an attempt to bring ilx back from the lows of 2013

― quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:11 PM (45 seconds ago)

your heart is in the right place but your methods are flawed

isn't it something ppl have gotten banned for in the past?

also, what is this priv cru?

u kno. rolling race + privilege + men's blogs + sexism + complaints about how society discriminates against your particular identity group.

xps i know gr80s i know but yknow genuinely i look around and wish there were better ppl for the job, i just dont see em coming out the woodwork you know?

y'all are forgetting the t

'there is no such thing as society' after all

does it have members or is it more of a feeling?

privet cru

i think the privilege society is open to anyone whose spirit heeds the clarion call

u kno. rolling race + privilege + men's blogs + sexism + complaints about how society discriminates against your particular identity group.

can i just get an add for the british lefty cru, who i love an all but goddamn

it seems like you are constructing straw persons with all your vagueness and "well, you know"s

does it have members or is it more of a feeling?

― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does it have a referent? and does the the term do explanatory lifting?

i could give you a list of names if u want?

mens blogs was a lulz thread until mordy crapped it up

did you really lol once at that thread?

i just feel that your categorizations and accusations need more rigor

i could give you a list of names if u want?

― Mordy , Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:19 PM (57 seconds ago)

do want

also yes mens blogs was a really funny thread

there will still be plenty of room for chill stoner dads after the patriarchy is smashed. i think.

i hope so. i worry that the endgame is no more chill stoner dads.

i laughed consistently at it. it reminds me of the quid-ag thread and the craftsmanship thread really. a mix of funny/weird/insane stuff and also some thought and inspection and 'unpacking' about the mindset giving rise to that raw material.

actually, i worry that the endgame is no 'chill' anything ever

chill dog mowing lawn will survive the apocalypse

check your chillage

xp - it will be the equivalent of the doll and glasses in the forbidden zone in Planet of the Apes

check yr frivilidge

wait, so is this now a thread for straight white guys?

we need a safe space on ilx

i don't identify as straight or white. i'll take guy, tho.

mods pls to remove all sarahell posts itt

you already have Cape of Good Hope, what more do you want?

chalk up one point to sarahell then pls threadban

sarahell is one of my fave posters. she stays.

is this all about social justice ppl hating fun?

have ppl really been banned for sending nasty webmails?

xp who said that i didnt say that

if we had avatars then mine would be

http://sodacancollection.weebly.com/uploads/5/3/7/1/5371355/5711780_orig.jpg

i think it's more that the social justice crew on ilx have become stuck in one particular mode of discourse - outraged + offended. i want them to explore their chill stoner sides too.

xp - i thought that some of the permabanned ppl were permabanned for doing so? At least mods have intimated that.

names!

xp Euler is that your version of smugly informing us of your PhD?

thatcher died?

kinder, i find your comments very offensive. please stop goysplaining to me.

mordy do you realize you're going about this in the most unchill way?

you need to study some scott seward posts for a while

chill stoner dad #1

scott hasn't gotten the job done imo

no smug, only chill xp

exactly xp

xp - no one has answered gr80's question yet. I feel like if you are questioning the concept of "privilege" you can at least be civil enough to respond to questions in the order received

which question? who is in the cabal?

chill doesnt care abt getting the job done, chill is just chill

sometimes when chill is threatened it must take up arms to make the world safe for chill i think

i could give you a list of names if u want?

― Mordy , Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:19 PM (57 seconds ago)

― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:20 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do want

― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:20 PM (11 minutes ago

aw cmon if you support privilege u dont need civility! we've definitively covered that over many threads

how else do you keep "the other" in line though?

if i'm going to start naming names i better prepare for my ilx hiatus, right?

were any of them called racist antisemites by chill [sic] stoned metalheads first?

don't drag sic into this

morbs, you're obv a racist, sexist anti-semite. why don't you just own it you fucking racist, sexist anti-semite?

maybe if you quote posts in a manner to promote civilized discourse -- that would also provide rigor, though it might not be as appealing to shit-stirrers like gr80

here we go

guys i am not going out for popcorn at this time of night

mordy now abusing jewprivs imo, it's a seductive narcotic this privilege and we must all be watchful of our behaviour once we get a sniff of it in our valuable message board crusades

i have tried to use my mickprivs to challenge dayo on race threads but he knows its not a real priv and ignores me ;_;

i've actually come around to this schtick in recent years, but it'd probably be more interesting for me personally if his focus were on something more important than the tumblr social justice community. but obv it's amusing to him

darragh i can't even tell what it is you have a problem with any more tbh

NV is more like a priv cult cheerleader than an actual participant

social justice offense and outrage is more engaging a read than a phatic otm circle jerk

crut too - it's kinda it's own little sub-genre xp

i see a problem with unchallenged assumptions but i'm pretty sure the internet is okay for safe spaces to say the unsayable in

like i don't really get what yr crusade is either Mords? kneejerk thinking of any stripe is a bad thing but then i'm pretty sure hate speech is a bad thing too mmmkay?

where is all this ilx hate speech happening exactly?

ilm, surely

i see a problem with unchallenged assumptions but i'm pretty sure the internet is okay for safe spaces to say the unsayable in

― i'm not racist, i just dislike rap (Noodle Vague), T

i think one of the things i have a problem with is hte notion that ilx is here as a balance to or to make up for the rest of the internet or irl tbh

where is all this ilx hate speech happening exactly?

― Mordy , Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:42 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

peep the miley cyrus thread iirc

it's one thing to drum out phil or morbz bc they're being overtly offensive but so many ilx threads are just updates on what offensive thing you found on the internet that day.

and i noticed every time someone differed w/ the party line on 'cultural appropriation' everyone started screaming

plz lover, try being covertly offensive

gnight

so many ilx threads are just updates on what offensive thing you found on the internet that day.

― Mordy , Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^

there cd probably stand to be less "bad people are bad" threads sure, but if you're making claims that perceived prejudice isn't real i think you might expect people who perceive themselves to be on the end of that prejudice to get a little rambunctious

"rambunctious" makes it sound more fun than it is

oh well isnt that why we have mods eh

dmac....

if the alternative on ilx must be that all perceived prejudice is real end of whatever point you were trying to make u filthy mens/white/straight rights advocate then it's really time to batten down the hatches and delete everything but ilf from sna

xp - i thought that some of the permabanned ppl were permabanned for doing so? At least mods have intimated that.

Nope.

xp won't somebody think of the battle jackets

mordy, what do you think about the idea that there is an element of privilege in viewing ilx predominantly as a text or a performance, rather than actual communication?

we dont have an ilf battle jacket but it's not a bad idea

Ha for a second I thought you meant "I love film"

so many ilx threads are just updates on what offensive thing you found on the internet that day.

― Mordy , Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:44 PM (8 minutes ago)

when this is done the right way, it can be ilx at its best

i liked when mordy called the rolling rap thread bros racist, thats p true

Big old brakhage back patch

Lillian Gish buttons all down the sleeve

i think it's more that the social justice crew on ilx have become stuck in one particular mode of discourse - outraged + offended. i want them to explore their chill stoner sides too.

― Mordy , Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:29 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

using the word discourse make you part of the problem IMHO

one particular mode of ted talks

http://i.imgur.com/Yvhs0A8.jpg

i do want that jacket now jjj

Lol gr8080

xxp - i know 2 ppl who have that shirt.

xp - jjjusten, maybe i misread this post:
Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE) wrote this on thread lol passantino on board I Love Everything on Mar 5, 2009

That was really after the fact.

Specifically, Dom was banned for pulling up shit that people have posted elsewhere to discredit them on the boards and grossly misrepresenting situations due to personal feuds in an attempt to get posters he disliked banned. Furthermore, in an attempt to plead his case to get back on the board he wrote an insulting email to the moderator who banned him (me).

have u really not seen these jjj

http://i.imgur.com/siRsAsR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xri0ucW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CUE65CE.png
http://i.imgur.com/oGDegXt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TU9s8tt.jpg

lol mod dan, never forget

i have the von trier one, another ilxor i am friends with irl has the jodorowsky one

I have not!

sarahell smh

Lamp, it was a gift.

mordy, what do you think about the idea that there is an element of privilege in viewing ilx predominantly as a text or a performance, rather than actual communication?

― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:52 PM (12 minutes ago)

i think this is a really interesting question but i'm not sure how to answer it.

also, The Kingdom, The Idiots, and Zentropa were awesome movies I liked a lot

chill out and don't answer it, that's my advice

shdnt u be playing gta v anyway mordy

Sarahell, that was mostly the first half that did Dom in, plus this was back in the days when "mod sass" was banable iirc. Before my time as a mod, so idk.

gr8080 i think you're chill on occasion but your giving advice mode is not super chill imho take it or leave it bro

the fact that the von trier one jacks the van halen logo is perfect imo

i'd love to play gta v but i am wearing a sick baby in a sling on my chest and it is not conducive to srs gameplaying

dang

shdnt u be playing gta v anyway mordy

it gets kinda exhausting ime, good to take a break and real talk ilx down from the ledge or w/e

i could see that, dont really play tons video games but i tried the last one and it was really depressing

gr80 definitely seems to view ilx as a text/performance -- based on things like the "quality posts" thread and other thread policing

i def view it as a text/performance but what's the privileged aspect of that? that you don't feel as personally invested? actors/writers get really hurt when you criticize their performances/writing.

do you feel hurt for being rated a one-star poster

oh crut

I am wary of splitting communication into performance and actual

well, if someone is making sexist/racist/antisemitic comments or being dismissive of the experiences of ppl who are victims of such, it is a lot easier to read those comments, those discussions as text rather than take them personally

Otm. What is communication if not for a huge part performance in itself?

Xp

oh cool ilx discovers those fucking shirts like four years too late

it is a lot easier to read those comments, those discussions as text rather than take them personally

I learned a long time ago to take very little on ilx personally

http://i.imgur.com/pCzA3fr.gif

xp - i've had my von trier shirt for 5 years iirc

oh cool ilx discovers those fucking shirts like four years too late

― Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:16 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lets just all do our schticks itt

whiney - I'm officially calling you out on needing a latepass on those shirts

If the shirt is worthy, there is no too late. If not, who cares?

"when i was a boy..."

mordy, what do you think about the idea that there is an element of privilege in viewing ilx predominantly as a text or a performance, rather than actual communication?
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:52 PM (12 minutes ago)

i think this is a really interesting question but i'm not sure how to answer it.

― Mordy

grant a set of privs to anyone claiming the most investment iirc

maybe there's more to life than proving you have the most investment

or winning arguments on the internet tbf

the scorecard is measured in fps

i hope not, you better hope not 2x

You have a lot of faith in those able to fp tbh

xp

gr8080 i think you're chill on occasion but your giving advice mode is not super chill imho take it or leave it bro

― Mordy , Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:08 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

your giving advice mode isn't super chill either!

feet per second? faps per session? face palms?

http://i.imgur.com/7v7q80i.gif

nobody's 'teaching' mode on ilx is partic fucking awesome tbh

i thought the ask darragh thread was ace tbh

well obv

I dunno, darragh, someone here once taught me about washing a hat.

ya but your white couch isnt looking too great

hey, the best part of a clusterfuck is the make-up sex

that's only the start of it in my house

^^voices of the patriarchy

Should we just rename ile "voices of the patriarchy"?

seems that way bytimes

"patriarchy malarkey"

patrialarkey

temporarily abated voice of the pat finnarchy

^ anarch comment

Treesh, if you're reading this i'm sorry for being unnecessarily cuntish btw

i think it's the menopause tbh

Treesh, if you're reading this i'm sorry for being unnecessarily cuntish btw

― i'm not racist, i just dislike rap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i'm 100% sure treeship is reading this thread right now. ask me how i know ;)

there goes the bookies odds on me or mordy being the person fp'd first outta this thread

i don't mind treesh, he is a relentless chatterbox but that's alright.

cool, is this the carbon monoxide leak thread?

this is the meta tittwits thread

u mean nitwits?

tbh "honoring women" sounds like code for subservient sex, like foot worship, though it could just be about going down on her

"honoring women" sounds like youre being weird and over thinky and prob have no idea how to relate to actual human beings

am wondering about its relationship to honoring the fire tbh

http://maniscalco.mysdhc.org/teacher/2771pennington/47FF460A-00757E5A.0/dancing%2520star.gif

honor is why predator hangs skulls on the wall

you know that predator isn't real, right?

goy_slayer

"honoring women" sounds like youre being weird and over thinky and prob have no idea how to relate to actual human beings

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:51 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it sounds to me like repurposed biblical language (honor your father and mother) so yeah, basically.

it is also used in standard wedding ceremonies

and in the Percy Sledge classic, "When a Man Honors a Woman"

objection whats the objection your honor i'm a genius

http://i.cdn.hbo.com/assets/images/series/game-of-thrones/character/hodor-160.jpg

it's probably overly florid, I just don't buy that it's secretly sexist

also prob there's a cultural context too that makes it sound less weird to me idiomatically

http://www.theonion.com/articles/280-days-of-meryl-streeps-year-spent-being-honored,10110/

how do we burn down ilx

googling 'honoring women' is very telling about how the general culture uses the term

also prob there's a cultural context too that makes it sound less weird to me idiomatically

― Mordy , Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:20 PM (1 hour ago)

after the google search i'm changing my answer here. ilx is just weird about the word 'honoring'

please temp-ban Mordy from the please temp-ban Mordy from the Thatcher Is Dead thread thread

googling 'honoring women' is very telling about how the general culture uses the term

― Mordy , Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Outside of "honoring" specific women (i.e. giving them an award), it's almost exclusively used in the conservative religious context, says my google searching.

https://blog.twitter.com/2011/honoring-women-everywhere

on the first page of results?

in the context of "recognize the contributions of generally" as opposed to in personal relationships seems a little different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFwJ0DzoPyg

ok idk, obv this isn't the hill i want to die on. i do think this language is probably far more in use than was argued on men's blog thread.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wHIh7Q4YL.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3679/womenofhonordvdfinal.jpg

sort of feel like that one deserves a poll

http://cdn.theresurgence.com/files/2011/05/22/howtohonor.jpg

http://www.tmocc.org/mediac/400_0/media/dac12ce26a63b748ffff812fffffd524.JPG

Honor or off 'er

Honor indoors.

in grade school gym/phys ed we weirdly had to do like two weeks of square dancing every year. no idea why. but one of the tunes began by demanding that you 'honor your partner' and 'honor your corner', which meant bowing shallowly to the person of opposite gender on either side of you.

/claven

Use in square dancing, the dance where rules are barked at you, is probably the strongest argument one could make for the term's conservative foundations.

yeah, probably. but it was not presented in a gendered manner -- everyone was to honor the people on either side of them (and while it was supposed to be boy/girl, that went out the window if there was an imbalance)

want to congratulate darraghmac on officially being less chill than Mordy at this point in the ilx feud over privilege.

it's hard out there for a swm

an irish swm

a swim

an irish swim

to scotland

at swm two birds

at swm two

xp fuckin a

my sock keeps on disobeying me

it's irish

pat finn 2 birds

patt swm two gersh

i just read this whole thing and mordy never even named names wtf

he is a ruthless tease

i read the please temp-ban Mordy from the Thatcher Is Dead thread and all I got was this lousy http://www.ilxor.com/s.png

he named karen tregaskin. i think it's fair to assume he would include me amongst the sheeple. obviously he feels the perceived defection of dayo v acutely.

awsum film btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faq7vqzNJBI

dont appresh this early-hours attack fwiw, seems not like fair play

i didn't think it would seem like an attack! just wanted to let you know your tireless work against the forces that dismiss swms has not gone unnoticed.

lol

idk about tireless it's 4am in swmland

and the endless privtalk is p fuckin tiresome like even at midday or w/e

haha i'm sorry. it wasn't a serious attack. i'm not at all chill so the last few times i've read ilx i've been like, "i really feel like i should address all these jabs darraghmac is throwing." i've given Mordy a lot of attention in the past, but I see you, darragh.

xp so tiresome! not at all like endlessly posting about how every time someone weighs in about racism or sexism they're being insufficiently smart/lowering the discourse/shouting over white men in anti-intellectual fashion

tbf that's mordy's position!

i dont doubt the discourse is far above my head or anything i just wish there were busier movie threads or w/e to distract me at work

i am trying to figure out why this stuff makes me so mad. it's not like i think the privilege paradigm is perfect. and when Mordy is posting about how people's investment in identity politics obscures class structure, i think he often has a point. but other times, you, darragh, and Mordy, seem to me to take a fundamentally ungenerous position in what you call the privtalk discussions, where because the conversation is structured around experience, you a priori don't get to seem "smart" and because seeming "smart" is the highest good, those conversations have no value. lol i know but it reminds me of grad school.

xp okay i'm obviously talking about Mordy and not you, then. that was a helpful clarification!

and ya the jabs are not undeserved (or rather im not trying to sneak under cover of mordy), in the language of the discussion i can of course recognise my privilege in being able to dismiss this stuff as ilx-only realted irk personally speaking cos im yr generic swm and i trust (and havent been disappointed) that my righteous ilx ppl will (at gentlest) handwave my grousing away.

if i wanted to join the privilege train i do belong to an identity group that has experienced plenty of persecution/violence/discrimination/etc to draw from - i agree that i want to move the conversation away from an experience perspective but not bc i think that conversation puts me at a disadvantage. i just don't think it's particularly interesting.

at swm two birds was awes btw

eh i think even when people are having the highminded discussions that meet with your approval, experience seeps in. it's just not marked/read as such.

xp

but you're talking as though i dismiss all lowbrow conversations. i just have a problem w/ this particular tone of outrage.

i think what you read as tone is also just rage. which people feel. i can see why you think it's a problem; it can be. it can also be productive.

shouting over white men in anti-intellectual fashion

and -just in case we're being too reasonable with each other horseshoe :)- yeah, though i wouldnt agree that it's necessarily anti-intellectual, ilx has definitely imo embraced the first part of this with increasing enthusiasm and it def drives me closer to a 'well go wan an fuck yourselves so' attitude on a bad day- as it would anyone that met it on the site with any regularity, i think

yeah, boo-hoo go home swm, we're here to redress the problems of the world and your day in the sun is over- i get it!

there should be a space between that :) and the -, it wasnt a soul patch or anything

ah, the privilege train

i know i'm in for it once i say this, but non-swms feel like that all the time-alienated by the very assumptions of a discussion which takes the experiences of a particular group as universal.

xp lol yes "privilege train" needs to be a song, maybe

pronouncing "swms" in my head is hypnotic

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TwK3s2Eg87g/STuAMzEuq9I/AAAAAAAAA2w/0huPcxCf8Gk/s400/statler_waldorf_02_01.jpg

l-r dmac and mordy watching a privilege thread

you don't need no ticket/you just get on the noize board

tbph i find it kinda offensive when i'm called white. i understand that my complexion is lighter and generally considered white (tho it's really olive) but also since 'whiteness' has a lot of do w/ genetic purity that jews have been historically excluded from, not to mention theological/social contexts of exclusion, it's pretty shitty to be told that don't understand what it means to have a particular group taken as universal. it's awesome btw living in the united states and i'm super grateful to live in a time + place where i can practice my religion + live in relative safety + prosperity, and i feel for ppl in the united states who don't yet have that. but that isn't true everywhere in the world, and it has only been true for a very short period of time here.

non-swms feel like that all the time-alienated by the very assumptions of a discussion which takes the experiences of a particular group as universal.

i prob don't even get to say that i get this, so i'll just say that i dont know that ilx has proven to be, over the years, a board where that universality of experience is assumed?

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have you read walter benn michaels, Mordy? i think you would like walter benn michaels, if not.

i'm sorry. of course you do know what it's like to have a particular group's experiences that are not your own taken as universal. but i do think your own sense of what counts as an interesting conversation performs a similar exclusion. i find it hard to reconcile your sensitivity to minority experience in that post with some of your posts in the "privtalk" discussions/arguments.

xp ilx has sometimes been that kind of board. people don't know when they're doing it! and people who feel excluded don't always feel comfortable pointing it out/

(i wasn't seriously throwing around single white male as an epithet; i was quoting darraghmac. i have posted on ilx for one million years; obvs i'm cool with single white men.)

lol single

:D

haaaaaaaaaaaaa um i meant straight. i guess. wtf @ me

i understand that ppl feel alienated. i don't believe that feeling gives ppl conversational authority. just like when someone disagrees w/ me on anti-semitism thread that something is anti-semitic, i try to argue logically/historically about why i think eg bibi paving a wall w/ blood might be anti-semitic. i don't tell them that they're privileged and can't understand what i'm saying bc of it. sensitivity to minority experience doesn't equal 'privtalk.'

genuine lulz at 'single white men'

darragh why dont you just not read threads about privilege or w/e is annoying you and just stick to like 'breaking bad is a tv show i have thoughts about' threads

cos im only starting breaking bad and i cant go near the threads

and ilx besides those two subjects is vvvv quiet

it is a fair question, like

i dispute the characterization of "privtalk" in this thread by you and darragh, especially because i am one of the main offenders in your eyes if i understand correctly.

xxp

those are the threads that become clusterfucks when you post to them. i wish other threads got a hundred new posts whenever i posted something there, but ppl tend to be really passionate on those threads xp

you weren't on my repressed list of names fwiw

i just think it's...strange if you really like dayo, for example, to despair when he gets interested in race as a category of analysis instead of being like, hmm i know dayo to be a smart and interesting person. maybe i should take his interests seriously.

friends get into stuff all the time that i can't get on their wavelength with - not just re race. i could probably be more decent about it and live + let live but that's about tact/etiquette. i'm still going to regret the shift in emphasis privately

treeship is a single white male

i am one of the main offenders in your eyes if i understand correctly.

eh not in my eyes

and just ftr, as i've stated before i think, i love p much everyone on this site i just disagree with most/all of em about this stuff so no spillover on my part either way

okay. i enjoyed this conversation. i do think you (Mordy) would like walter benn michaels, and he's that rare English academic who's a gifted writer, as a bonus.

i feel uncharacteristically chill.

i think this has been a chill chat :) i'll check out wbm

horseshoe do you like my display name

ah xps, the heart of it!

i only despair at dayo, f'rinstance, when he uses me as an example of yr standard ignorant oppresoor privilege denier on a thread i've not posted on in weeks and then refuses to engage if i call him on it twice

but he's still one of my v favourite posters, no spillover as i said.

again, yes i can see that for me to be all 'hey man let's thrash it out and argue about this stuff no holds barred no hard feelings mannnn' is a position that i should more than likely step away from because ppl who are deep into this in a way i am not will naturally take it to heart in a way i won't. but eh like tbrr imo there's still ways to carry on on ilx and there's ways not to, unrelated to w/e is being discussed.

but other than that i don't see any issue at all with my disagreeing (completely) with posters that i like and admire on this or any other subject

o'ppresúr

why are you up so early, darragh?

tbh I think part of the problem is the sheer number of posters who are often trying to communicate a variety of experiences/nuanced opinions but then might all go 'wtf @ honor, Mordy' (for example) on one particular point. And then it seems like ILX is one singular hivemind where every post isn't just a random lol or jibe or single point but also implicitly seems to endorse whatever went before (to the person feeling got-at).

e.g. when Mordy requested that emil.y use the word 'patriarchy' in a certain way, that just tickled my sense of irony so I posted an offhand comment and then was accused of saying something utterly different. I know that happens a lot on ILX but I think volume of posts from different people who might have individual points to make just kind of get lost in a big amorphous blob of ~something about privilege~ and the thread of any particular argument is lost in what seems like a pile-on.

at swm two birds, lol

I don't want to get too deeply into this conversation but can I throw a conversational bomb into the mix about how "passing" is a two-way street, one direction involving people taking on a cultural identity based on their looks and the other involving how people assign default cultures to people based on their perceptions of them and that you don't have to actively participate in part A to benefit from or be hurt by part B, and then run away?

too late, you're in the tractor beam now

single white neanderthal

should we really consider neanderthals white tho lets break this down

Area Man's Intelligence Probably Just Too Intimidating For Most Women

that photo is tremendous

friends get into stuff all the time that i can't get on their wavelength with - not just re race. i could probably be more decent about it and live + let live but that's about tact/etiquette. i'm still going to regret the shift in emphasis privately

― Mordy , Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:15 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark

hey man it's not like i joined the klan or the church of scientology! reading that actually makes me feel a little... sad, that this is something you spend time genuinely regretting tbh.

Naenderthals are definitely white and I have cred on both fronts

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1191669!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/neanderthal25n-1-web.jpg

by science

surely saying "Neanderthals were white" is like saying "Homo sapiens are white"

hey man it's not like i joined the klan or the church of scientology! reading that actually makes me feel a little... sad, that this is something you spend time genuinely regretting tbh.

― 乒乓, Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:59 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't mordy think contenderizer was the best poster on ilx like a year ago? i wouldn't sweat it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmb41PcarVY

oh god i forgot that vid

unfrozen swm

i appreciate your username v much, k3v

Words and language are powerful tools by which an individual can express ideas, whether abstract, actionable, or concrete. As a writer and editor, I know firsthand that language and the meanings we attach to words very much impact, influence, develop, and change the attitudes that we have toward the subjects of discussion. That is why people are easily insulted or upset by word choices. Changing a phrase — even if it holds the same literal meaning — alters the subtle connotations and nuances of the speech, and communicates a different meaning and context than the original phrasing.

feel like this indicates some of the areas that could be debated separately from arguments about privilege

https://twitter.com/nathanjurgenson/status/381124219498553344

my WBM book has arrived and i can already tell it's going to be great - it has a picture of sheeple on the cover!

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/2013-on-being-offended

Feel like you would appreciate this article Mordy

friend of mine posted that on fb and got destroyed for it

And judging from Google search results,...

http://media.giphy.com/media/6RoUMn34pqvcs/giphy.gif

it was ok, gets a little smarmy at the end, 'It also risks reducing audiences’ own interpretive possibilities' say it ain't so. probably bc he wanted to be controversial but didn't want to go to the logical conclusion which is internet bros love being offended bc in capitalism-ravaged 2013 america it is the only way we can feel alive.

internet bros love being offended bc in capitalism-ravaged 2013 america it is the only way we can feel alive.

new board description?

Hi Mordy. What is your favourite situation comedy?

ever, or currently airing?

ever

seinfeld maybe?

good answer, that's one of my favourite american situation comedies

its good ive heard meaning to check it out thx

Its shit check out reginald perrin instead srsly

please temp-ban Thatcher from the Reagan Is Dead thread

happy 30th birthday mordy

I'll echo that if u rescind yr scurrilous attempts to slander me across the boards this past week

i'm sorry, you're alright deems :)

mordyfied

inshallah deems

nakh shared this quote w/ me about thatcher:

There had never been a cabinet with so many Jewish men - me, Michael Howard, Leon Brittan. I wondered why, and the conclusion I came to is not that she had a thing for Jews, but that she was one of those rare politicians without the faintest whiff of antisemitism.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:45 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nakh being in Thatcher's cabinet does explain a lot

― Neil S, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:46 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and i think , tbh, that the majority of the anti-thatcher sentiment on ilx might well have its root there as opposed to the policies that so many of them apologise for under nu-labour

― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:47 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well you're the expert on British politics after all

― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:47 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've got critical distance tbftm

― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:49 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nowhere near enough distance if you ask me

― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:49 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jealous cos we managed the break in 1921 imo

― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:50 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You'd never guess

― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:50 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well we have a functioning labour party, it's true

― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:51 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

quality exchange tom d is a high value poster imo

xp i used to work on a donations/charity hotline collecting for the Gujarat drought appeal and they insisted we answer the phone asalaam alai kum and the person on to their end would immediately panic and through the phone to their grandad who would then crankily reprimand me in their own tongue because I had started it then hand back to the kid who could work the phone and organise the donation then I had to finish with waali kum salaam even after all the trouble and they'd be like write whatever bro

lol

haha

just unfollowed every identity politics thread on ilx. on the minus side i imagine i'll miss 90% of ilx clusterfucks now. on the plus side maybe i'll stop feeling gross every day about the website i long-ago chose to make my browser home page.

well just wait til it's called the Branwell Board

heaven forfend

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following threads on ilx boggles my mind tho

U don't use bookmarks?

Perish the thought

... though I have done it by accident and thought, wtf is that link that shitty thread doing at the top of my page?

i too long for the days when ilx was called fields of salmon board

mordy, morbius otm

just wait

*waits*

say what u will about bran at least he has a personality and something to say. the day it becomes zachlyon boards...

Guys it won't become any of these things

I have no popcorn, Fruitella do?

don't underestimate me

I'm scared to see how lame you can become when you really set yr mind to it tbf

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i've been sort of half-assing it lately you're right, thanks for the kick

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Next time, the image should be a little fruit.

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horseshoe so chill itt & always, kinda boggled she figured she'd ever make a dmac/mordy hit list tbh

this was a good thread what can we do about reviving it

I read this thread while up all night in lab and it is A+

ain't it tho

i'm not at all chill; that's why Mordy and you so successfully get under my skin when dismissing identity politics, dmac. irl i get tagged as angry more times than not. that's my secret: i'm always angry.

i've endeavored not to get involved in "identity politics" argument as of late but in my experience (mostly irl) i have had many chill conversations w/ ppl who are passionate about these particular issues. it's really only on the internet that i find commentators who seem to be -- idk -- like looking for a fight? or maybe looking to yell at someone as a surrogate for all the other shit they've heard + thought about? but i don't think that describes u at all - i always find you sincere and thoughtful. really the ppl who have historically pissed me off the most on ilx are [i'm putting on my most unsympathetic hat here - i'm sure other ppl see them as important allies] white males who seem like they're trying to earn extra credit by attacking someone whose position might not even be in contradiction w/ [identity studies] but just w/ the superficial politically angry subset that they feel will get them the most traction in online communities. i know it's unfair to call someone disingenuous or speculate about their motivations, but like all the talk of "tone policing" has obscured the fact that most of us care a lot about tone in all areas of our lives. we like to be talked to nicely, and we like to have chill conversations. that's a human thing.

but like i said, i mean i'm like 30 years old now i think there are probably more important things in life than having online debates about hot leftist topics w/ ppl w/ whom i agree about 95% of things but that 5% makes us mortal enemies. so i'm working [have been working] on scaling that back considerably.

the left is pretty marginal in the world anyway. the most radical fringe whose opinions i most often disagree w/ are marginal even to the left. it's not important that i fight those ideas. they barely exist.

better response when not 4am pilled but I want to note hulk ref as soon as poss

really the ppl who have historically pissed me off the most on ilx are [i'm putting on my most unsympathetic hat here - i'm sure other ppl see them as important allies] white males who seem like they're trying to earn extra credit

― Mordy, Saturday, February 14, 2015 5:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

def a lot of cookie seeking out there

the white male cookie gaze: anatomy of ally cookie wanting in post internet affinity communities

one thing thats kind of odd to me abt the internet social justice scene (tho obvs not unique to it) is a. the total denial that it represents a culture b. the unwillingness to see that some ppl might find that culture obnoxious in a way that doesnt represent siding with its hegemonic enemies

idk how many times ive heard ppl express the sentiment we are just ppl who are fed up and fighting oppression, tho im sure the vast majority of ppl who have ever come close to expressing that opinion wld in safer spaces have a lot to say abt the culture of social justice

the sense of total war, projection, and aggression is pretty sad and goofy overall and often leads to an impression of ppl devoid of self awareness, the saddest part of it of all tho is obvs the enemies of social justice are very real and do need to be fought but this approach of all out internet warfare is a recipe for burnout that is destined to rob the movement of valuable people and any sort of wisdom earned through experience, just feeding more young virtual cannon fodder through the humanities to battlefield pipeline

a lot of this is prob just a symptom of our overly extroverted society in general and the same tendencies can be seen in pretty much any group you want to look at, and to be sure im just musing and wldnt pretend to have any sort of handle on the totality of the situation, also the internet warfare is really good sometimes too imo and rasies all sorts of worthy important questions that i personally at least have learned a lot from

+academic language is the worst