"Don’t anybody start talking about morals, because we don’t have any in football" - the rolling Scottish football thread, season 2014/15

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That Roy Aitken throw-in's never going to get old, is it? I don't think Celtic can dispute the fact they were pish and deserved to get beat on Sunday, but there's a ton of wilful point-missing as people jostle for position to stick the boot in. What's basically going on is that everyone's prepared to defend shite refereeing because of the team that were shitely refereed.

Ronny Deila got his subs wrong, and Craig Gordon was stupid and reckless. That's not in doubt. But if Celtic had been 2-0 up and/or playing against 10 men, it may have panned out differently. None of which is the point. The point is there were four officials who could have spotted that. None of them did. That's not very good, is it?

Leigh Griffiths said the ref told him after the game that the goal-line guy told him it had hit Meekings in the face. He chose to accept that version from an unsighted guy rather than trust what he should have been looking at himself face-on. Someone somewhere has cocked this up. It's not unreasonable to ask for clarification, which is all Celtic have done. They congratulated ICT, and asked someone to review the referee's decision. That they did, and handed out a ban to Meekings as a result, is by the by.

Mind you, last time Celtic questioned some questionable refereeing, the refs all closed ranks and went on strike. And people went "ooh, look at Celtic, trying to lose bad referees their jobs". Um, aye. I wish more people would do it, rather than let Keevins, Chick et al waffle on about things evening themselves out. And if I hear one more person say that Celtic should be good enough to win despite things like this, I'll burst something. Why the fuck should they have to be? Why can't they just win according to the actual rules, rather than having to beat them as well as their opponents.

Grrrrr.

ailsa, Thursday, 23 April 2015 09:47 (nine years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32402364

Compliance officer Tony McGlennan had charged Meekings with breaking disciplinary rule 200 by "denying the opposing team an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball".

But it is understood the panel took into consideration that the referee and his other officials had seen the incident, when Meekings blocked a Leigh Griffiths header in front of goal.

In his report, referee Steven McLean explained that he had sought the advice of the official behind the goal and was told by Alan Muir that he thought it had struck the defender's head.

The panel decided that it had been "an honest mistake" by the officials and that they were not minded to change the referee's decision.

So if a referee admits he cocks it up, it can't be overruled? Why even have review panels?

The good bit is that they haven't even said whether or not it was deliberate, and all the Inverness fans I encounter on Facebook are still all "ha, told you he didn't do it". Saying that, they also think Celtic asked for him to be punished, so I don't think reading comprehension is their strong point.

ailsa, Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Ha, comedy Inverness fan now reading "The panel decided that it had been "an honest mistake" by the officials and that they were not minded to change the referee's decision" as "Meekings didnae do it".

ailsa, Thursday, 23 April 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link

Just seen someone make the so-obvious-I-didn't-think-of-it point that if Steven McLean believed Josh Meekings to have just headered the ball clear, why mention it in his referee's report at all?

ailsa, Friday, 24 April 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link

Because it was clearly a controversial moment and the officials were challenged repeatedly by Celtic players at half time.

People get away with hand balls all the time. The problem is with officials, not Meekings. I have no issue at all with him playing the final.

who writes compassionately about poor people for the Guardian (onimo), Friday, 24 April 2015 08:32 (nine years ago) link

Same here, I just hope it's on the losing side.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 24 April 2015 09:07 (nine years ago) link

Off on a technicality then.

https://twitter.com/STVGrant/status/591562514179186689

So why say it was an honest mistake if you weren't considering it, eh? Fecking shambles.

ailsa, Friday, 24 April 2015 11:36 (nine years ago) link

St Mirren captain Steven Thompson says he is "mortified" after 'spearing' team-mate John McGinn in a training ground prank.
Thompson threw a spiked pole at McGinn which pierced his thigh and meant the 20-year-old missed Saturday's win over Kilmarnock.

bantz

who writes compassionately about poor people for the Guardian (onimo), Monday, 27 April 2015 12:26 (nine years ago) link

Paisley bloke chibs bloke in Paisley. Sounds about right.

ailsa, Monday, 27 April 2015 12:32 (nine years ago) link

Given that they won at tge weekend I expect the rest of the squad are nervous as to who the next sacrificial offering will be.

michaellambert, Monday, 27 April 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link

It's a bit late in the day to be burning Jim Goodwin at the stake but let's do it anyway.

who writes compassionately about poor people for the Guardian (onimo), Monday, 27 April 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link

John Guidetti found guilty of offensively repeating something on Dutch telly which isn't offensive anyway.

ailsa, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

Congratulations to Ronny Deila, Robbie Neilson, Jim Duffy and Darren Young, Twitter tells me this means that every division in the SPFL has been won by a manager in his first season at his club. Armageddon, etc.

btw, fuck Aberdeen for capitulating so meekly and doing me out of my biggest BTTS coupon of the season. I honestly thought they'd make more of a fight of it :-)

ailsa, Saturday, 2 May 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

Congrats celtic ilxors! (do we have any morton or albion fans? To them too!)

sktsh, Monday, 4 May 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

Congrats to PFA manager of the year John Hughes on winning a league game for the first time in three months, against a team that has won two league games in three months.

mea nulta (onimo), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 00:06 (nine years ago) link

St Mirren also making a mockery of our thread title:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32617883

ailsa, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link

Just seen Michael Stewart on the telly telling everyone to give him their details to try and get cheaper energy bills. Almost as weird as it would have been seeing him at Westminster.

https://www.onebigswitch.co.uk/

ailsa, Friday, 15 May 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

Congrats to PFA manager of the year John Hughes

I heard that at the start of the season he was the favourite for the first manager to get sacked

He's done well imo

paolo, Sunday, 17 May 2015 09:37 (nine years ago) link

he's had that lady bit of luck and installed a siege mentality

mea nulta (onimo), Sunday, 17 May 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

Ian Murray in at St Mirren. Probably not a bad choice for them, up-and-coming manager, probably not cost much, knows the Championship.

ailsa, Friday, 22 May 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

i was in the same higher geography class as him for a month when he was in the year above me at school. so good luck to him!

sktsh, Friday, 22 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

^should have sold that to tattler

sktsh, Friday, 22 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

feeling a bit like that ^ myself the now. wonderful stuff motherwell

sktsh, Thursday, 28 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

lol at this

Dravidian Miss Desi (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link

Greetings, Scottish football thread. I am in a pub full of English people being glad no-one recognises an Inverness accent lest they mistake me for someone who wants ICT to win dis ting.

One guy has just said that it's weird Rangers aren't in the final. Assume he wasn't watching Thursday night's hilarity.

Oh lol, ICT down to 10.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link

Bollocks. Though does that put St Johnstone in Europe? Well done Michael, if so...

ailsa, Saturday, 30 May 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link

It does indeed! First leg is the night before my sister's wedding, though, so I'm hoping we are at home or we get someone like UCD so I can get back easy.

Getting to experience a cup win is brilliant, if you support a "diddy" team winning it for the first time it's even better.

michaellambert, Saturday, 30 May 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

congrats ict - fairly entertaining final once it settled down

getting to hate this kids on the pitch lap of honour shite

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link

Also congrats St J for EL qualification

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

It was quite entertaining, I just wasn't quite neutral enough to enjoy it.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Our worldwide scouting network seems to have a thing for Belgian centre hoffs who can't get a game for Man City.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32954918

inauspicious first mentions:

James Mitchell wrote this on thread NAMING RIGHTS THREAD: Liverpool really won't win the Premiership 2010-2011 on board I Love Everything on 24-Oct-2010

After four minutes:

Cesc Fabregas slides a lovely pass through to Marouane Chamakh and Dedryck Boyata fouls him - the ref has got no choice but to send him off and it's 10 v 11.
r|t|c wrote this on thread NAMING RIGHTS THREAD: Liverpool really won't win the Premiership 2010-2011 on board I Love Everything on 24-Oct-2010

aw man look at dedryck's sad baby face. heartbreaking :(

didnt he have a earlier appearance that wz similarly calamitous?

Bleurgh

http://i.imgur.com/hLUo6RL.jpg

ailsa, Friday, 5 June 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

saw this pop up a few times this week since David Weir went to Ibrox. All time.

https://theclumpany.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_2968-0.jpg

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Saturday, 20 June 2015 11:08 (eight years ago) link

Stjarnan, then. I've heard of them, which is more than can be said for Aberdeen's opponents. St Johnstone get a wee trip to Armenia. How can none of us draw nice easy wee trips down to Wales or something?

ailsa, Monday, 22 June 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link

Better no' be seeing any of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC8XanuhOss#t=89

ailsa, Monday, 22 June 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

partick thistle have a new david shrigley-designed mascot:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIGx0GrUYAAR4Mv.jpg

Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 June 2015 13:30 (eight years ago) link

WTactualF is *that*?

ailsa, Monday, 22 June 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

It's awesome, that's what it is.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Monday, 22 June 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

A+

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 June 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

twitter reaction is p good
https://twitter.com/ThistleTweet/status/612966534387007488

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 June 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link

this is the best

sktsh, Monday, 22 June 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

Brilliant, though as someone pointed out on Twitter, what'll become of poor old Jaggy MacBee? Or do Partick have a history of cruelly tossing aside mascots as soon as a new sponsor comes along? What a cupboard of horrors that will become.

As for the Europa draw, the plus side of Saints drawing a team in Armenia with the away leg first is that it safely removes any clash with my sister's wedding the next day - had we got UCD I'd have been tempted to go over and risk getting the first flight back in the morning.

Probably time to move onto a new thread for 15/16 soon? Is Partick's mascot to be our naming inspiration?

michaellambert, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

@jaggymacbee going it alone

is there anything sadder than a mascot available on a bosman?

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

"I'm still young, I'm still ambitious and I want to play at as high a level as I possibly can."

Danny Wilson, March 2014.

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Monday, 22 June 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

he's since moved from the premier league to the championship twice

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Monday, 22 June 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link


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