Also I want further away spots - Mass, NH, Vermont, Maine even.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Does anyone have any suggestions for backcountry hiking in the NC/TN area? We'll probably end up just picking a stretch of the Appalachian Trail, unless someone has a better idea?
― Kerm, Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Seriously on the baby wipes!
We're going camping this weekend, too!
― Ai Lien, Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
For the benefit of UKers, what are you actually supposed to do if you meet a bear when camping? Is it true that it depends on the type of bear as to what you should do?
― hejira, Friday, 11 April 2008 08:22 (sixteen years ago) link
You go, "Shoo, bear, shoo!"
― Kerm, Friday, 11 April 2008 08:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Adirondacks--High Peaks region (Keene Valley). Great hiking and camping and killer pie at the Noon Mark Diner.
― quincie, Friday, 11 April 2008 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link
My friends decided to do a collaborative packing checklist on Google Docs. This is what they've put together for an upcoming two night backpacking trip:
Sleeping Bag Pillow Sleeping Pad Sleeping socks Sleeping shirt Tent, Ground cloth, Fly & Poles
Bear bag Bear bag rope
Camelback Spare Bladder Water Filter Water Filter Body Empty Nalgene bottle
Compass Map GPS Whistle Headlamp Flashlight Batteries Camera Leki poles Matches Lighter Knife Bowl Spoon Toothbrush/toothpaste/floss First aid kit
Toilet Paper <-- THE MOST IMPORTANT FUCKING THING ON THE LIST Plastic Bags -- Large black and small grocery Stove Cooking pot Fuel bottle Soap
Warm hat Shade hat Bandana Rain shell Fleece jacket Zip-off pants Spare socks & liners Spare shirt Long underwear Gloves
Day-of bag: Boots, boot socks, shirt, pants, etc.
Day-after bag: Clean shirt, shorts, socks, shoes
Wonder who's carrying the cooler and who's pulling the wagon...
― Kerm, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Guys, if you are into doughy, cheesy goodness, here is the best camping recipe I have ever come across. Buy some shaved meat such as corned beef, turkey, ham, whatever, and some melty cheese that agrees with it (mozarella is, of course, a classic but you can go as classy or low-brow as you like) and wrap said items in the little Pilsbury/generic crescent rolls. Wrap said roll in foil, leaving extra space inside so that the roll can expand. Cook for a few minutes over the fire, flipping occasionally. They lose their crescent shape but they gain a taste explosion that cannot be beat. I think these are the reason I am going camping twice this year (first time is May 18 in Algonquin Park, hurrah! During 2006's "May 24" we got snowed on.)
― Finefinemusic, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Subject: Bears met while camping - what to do To: ilx UKers cc: all ilx
What you should do depends a lot on the bear and what it does.
In the contiguous 48 states of the USA almost all bears are black bears. Black bears are generally interested in one thing only: eating. If the situation does not include food, the bear will almost always choose to run or walk away rather than risk an encounter, whether or not you yell at it. However, bears are somewhat curious and have rotten eyesight, so yelling will help the bear to identify you as a human and not some novelty item it should investigate further.
If, however, food is involved theings change. Bears can think of no thing on earth more alluring than human's foodstuffs. If the bear is approaching your food supply, you may wish to yell and throw rocks from a safe distance. This sometimes works. Not often.
Once the bear has already nabbed your food, the bear now considers it to be his food and will act to protect it. In that case, it is best to retire from the affray.
Grizzly bears are another critter altogether. They are alpha hunters and don't frighten easily, unless you have a gun and are loaded for bear. Grizzlies do exactly as they please, when they please and as they please. They rarely attack humans, but that is just a matter of having no particular reason. But that is no protection. They don' really need a reason. Just a whim.
Avoid them, if possible.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link
wot no brewing equipment in that list? Not even a mug or cup ? Madness
― Ste, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I think I can carry a french press, a bottle of whiskey, a beer stein and a couple growlers and still be lighter than these jacklegs.
― Kerm, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link
They've added: mug, brillo pad, deck of cards, and pot holder.
But apparently this is a general checklist for future reference, like the bazillion others online. We're not necessarily taking all of this stuff this trip. Still...
― Kerm, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
pot holder is probably more important than 1/2 the stuff on the list
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
where's the trowel?
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I have to wonder, if you come across a grizzly in the forest, with your gun - how does the bear know what you've got loaded?
― Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
It knows when it becomes either enraged or dead.
― Ed, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
This might be a dumb question, but if you camp at a campground and go off for a hike, what's to stop someone from making off with your tent?
I'm sorry but this has me roffling: I can just picture some dude dragging your tent. "Hurry, he's seen us! RUN"
Apart from that: Blairwitch Project nuff said.
― stevienixed, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
wet wipes!
― not_goodwin, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Might I suggest this awesome tent:
http://www.campist.com/archives/treetents-camping-tent-by-dre-wapenaar.jpg
― stevienixed, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Q: This might be a dumb question, but if you camp at a campground and go off for a hike, what's to stop someone from making off with your tent?
A: wet wipes!
― andrew m., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
real answer: the camper's code
― andrew m., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
The $16 Byer of Maine Amazonas Traveler Hammock I got at REI provides the best camping sleep I've ever had.
― Kerm, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link
also, I see no Colemans lamp on that list.
― Ste, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 09:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Dude this must be car camping because no way anyone could carry all that shit? Also: pot holder totally asinine: get one sock douchebag!
― quincie, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link
this is a pot holder
http://www.webbmilitary.com/camping/potholder.jpg
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry, but pot holder is U & K, socks can get wet.
― Ed, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link
proper name for it - A bulldog
How is it that socks can get wet and potholders can't? OK I guess if you're talking a gabbneb potholder but for realz how many single-purpose items do you really want to climb mountains with?
― quincie, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link
A potholder is made of metal so being wet will not increase it's conductivity. Any kinds of fabric heat protection is potentially useless. (TBH I tend to just use my leatherman most of the time but it is not as convenient, but does have a million other uses)
― Ed, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link
OK but to reiterate for realz how many single-purpose items do you really want to climb mountains with?
― quincie, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm taking a firm stand against these contraptions, folks.
are you him?
― blueski, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link
no backpacker brings an oven mitt along, but a lightweight pot holder is a standard part of a camping cookset. some people would forgo it, but food and basic cooking tools are pretty important when you're walking all day in the middle of nowhere, and wetness is the enemy. i guess we should give up the single purpose of eating - food accounts for a lot of the weight in your backpack.
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
My list from tramping round wales last summer (admittedly with a bunch of kids would have been lighter if it were just me)
Tent (Macpac microlight) Sleeping bag (Rab I forget which) Thermarest Shorts 1 pair trousers one pair baselayer trousers Short sleeve base layer 2 off. Long sleeve base layer 2 off. midlayer top waterproofs top and bottom Underpants 4 pair socks 3x 2 pair sandals hat (rain and sun) sunglasses Sunscreen (buckets of) first aid kit (comprehensive) MSR stove Fuel bottle Pan set with insulator Leatherman Sheath knife head torch watch maps compass Camelbak Bowl song book
between us we had an axe, a saw some bigger cooking pots, matches, more fuel etc.
― Ed, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link
all hail the leatherman supertool!
― andrew m., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link
amen
― Ste, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link
It is not surprising that most ilxors are unacquainted with the arcane lore of backcountry camping,as practised far from campgrounds and vehicles. It is an specialized hobby quite remote from the knowledge of the vast majority of Americans and Europeans.
Even the majority of people who have done it at some time are just tyros and novices compared to the true adepts. It takes a real nut like me to devote a large chunk of one's life and energy to this pastime.
(he wanders off muttering incoherently about gram scales and trekking poles)
― Aimless, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link
So are you for or against POTHOLDERS? Help me out here!
― quincie, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I am ecumenical. Potholders are are respectable choice, for those who desire them, but I favor bales over potholders. Bales are light, compact and integral. They also facilitate hanging one's pot over a small woodfire in a situation where one's stove has failed.
Such are the arcana of backpacking.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
bales heat up
― Ed, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Being remote from the heat source (base of the pot) and connected to the top of the pot only at two small points, they are somewhat analogous to the handle of a spoon, when the bowl of the spoon has something hot on it. Some heat is conducted to the handle or the bail, but not much.
However, if you are happy with a potholder, far be it from me to attempt a conversion.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Look guys, I'm just saying, make the croissants like I said. You all ignore me now, but you will hail me at 9AM on day two of camping!
― Finefinemusic, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm taking a firm stand against these (single-purpose) contraptions, folks.
-- quincie, Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:10 AM (2 days ago)
OTM. wtf potholder? That's what calluses are for.
Also: scattered thunderstorms all weekend. Should be rad. though apparently we're down to like 10 planned miles...
I'm taking: Hammock, tarp, associated rigging sleeping bag knife matches dice whiskey
― Kerm, Friday, 25 April 2008 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Got rained on something fierce, heard the coyotes at night, legs aren't speaking to me at the moment. Good times.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/2451070216_91209c3161.jpg
― Kerm, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link
"Ask before you hunt and fish on private land"
I have a bumper sticker that says this.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Sausages!
― Ste, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
http://i31.tinypic.com/4fzifm.jpg Sausages, Central Oregon Desert, May 5, 2007
bell pepper, onion, kielbasa, beer to cover; simmer til hungry; bun, mustard; de(mo)lish
Technique perfected in Southwestern Virginia, 1999-2002
― Kerm, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I approve of these sausages.
Made a killer stroganoff last time camping. Also a great pork and chicory beer stew too.
― Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
gong camping here at the weekend.
only for one night, we have tents and sleeping bags and guitars and several bottles of whiskey, is there anything important we're not thinking of?
what foods do people recommend bringing? no cooking equipment.
― socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
lol maybe i'll just read the thread tbf
― socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link