Katrina's aftermath

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what does posting grotesqueries on an internet messageboard have to do with 'compassion'?? look i really dont give a fuck either way i just asked ned about posting on this shit every time and he responded so its cool now!!

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Fetchboy's a cool guy. I hope he is doing okay.

Yes, I have heard of pizza (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

im not tryna JUDGE ppl or whatever it just seemed like this is the same 'ooh, dead ppl!' bullshit you get from watching local news

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

nobody else on the thread seems to have the impression that "this is the same 'ooh, dead ppl!' bullshit you get from watching local news," 3.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

not to play lunch monitor and be all "tsk tsk", but if you guys are gonna argue motivations can you start another thread about it?

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

look i really dont give a fuck either way i just asked ned about posting on this shit every time and he responded so its cool now!!

Indeed. So can we move on? Ethan said his piece, I said mine, we know where we stand. (xpost with JBR)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Why didn't she go back to Philly, like, several days ago when they evacuated?

once their planes were gone, airlines wouldn't fly in cuz they didn't want to get their planes stuck in the aftermath. i'd imagine amtrak and greyhound did something similar. rental cars were probably all gone. and maybe, just maybe, she didn't have several thousand dollars to hire a limo.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

hstencil i dont run my opinions by the rest of the thread before i post them

xpost THANK YOU NED

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

jbr is kinda otm, kinda like how i was hoping there would be like a separate looting motivation thread (tho that seems to have died down). tho i'm not sure that would be needed since like people have y'know liked stealing shit since the idea of property was invented...

xpost - 3 that wasn't exactly what i was saying, but let's drop it anyway. i just wanna hear about what's happening where several of my relatives live.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

is there some reason why we shouldn't pay a great deal of attention to significant natural events that become 'disaster's because people happen to be in their way? is there something inherently ghoulish about doing so?

Like anything, it depends on the context. Video of desperate people and the obligatory "please Mr & Mrs. Survivor tell us how you feel" live cameras are completely inappropriate. However, I'm completely fascinated by the civic infrastructure and logistical aspects of big natural disasters like this. I'm watching these helicopters shots of NOLA and wondering how the hell the city engineer finds even something to start in on.

Yes, it's a desensitizing attitude toward the very real human catastrophe that's going on but what are you going to do? A small disaster is a tragedy, but something on this scale is a statistic - it's almost impossible to get your head about it.

x-post

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

chris otm -- this doesn't even seem real anymore. it's only natural to want to step back and take a macro-view of everything.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Some pretty important news just announced:

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3:53 P.M. - N.O. Mayor Nagin: Priorities - 1. Rescuing people. 2. Fixing levee breaks. 3. Taking care of refugees in Superdome and hospitals.

3:43 P.M. - Senator Vitter: New Orleans will "absolutely" be rebuilt.

3:25 P.M. - With conditions in the hurricane-ravaged city of New Orleans rapidly deteriorating, Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Tuesday that people now huddled in the Superdome and other rescue centers need to be evacuated.

"The situation is untenable," Blanco said during a news conference. "It's just heartbreaking."

3:15 P.M. - Charity Hospital is out of commission and they are trying to evacuate patients, but it is hard to get there because rising water is surrounding the hospital. They will try to evacuate the patients to other cities.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

"3:43 P.M. - Senator Vitter: New Orleans will "absolutely" be rebuilt."

god, thats just incredible, that this even has to be a talking point, you know?

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

What I originally came to post, before I got caught up in the what-have-you is: am I the only one who, in addition to various other thoughts chasing 'round in my head, can't stop thinking about all the various places that I've been to down there that are now under water?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

And by the way, dickhead, I have family down there too.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"3:43 P.M. - Senator Vitter: New Orleans will "absolutely" be rebuilt."

Because we are MAN, and because it just wouldn't do to learn our lesson.

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

am I the only one who, in addition to various other thoughts chasing 'round in my head, can't stop thinking about all the various places that I've been to down there that are now under water?

I'm thinking about it a lot too. I was in NO back in January and also wandered about though Houma, Grand Isle and everything along LA-1. The one report I read about LA-1 was that it was covered in 4 feet of grass and muck.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

is there a greasemonkey script that'll let me hide all of jimmy mod's posts on this thread?

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

cmon the lone cowboy was funny

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

3, did you know that Soulja Slim's mom is the CEO of Cut Throat Commity Records? She was going to put on a benefit festival that's obviously not happening now:

Hi
I would like thank everybody from replying about the Soulja Slim Festival and I will have a web site up soon with all the information about this event but for now here is a little info:Starting on Sept 23-24,05 there will be events leading up to the festival which is Sept 25 in City Park.You can email me or call my offfice at 504-284-6678 and ask for me Mrs Linda CEO of Cut Throat Commity Records. Thank you and God bless

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost -- Yeah, I liked that as well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

WWL now reporting that its turning very ugly with the looting: a police officer was shot in the head by a looter as he tried to confront people robbing a store. Police aren't likely to be as nice now.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i actually did know that! when i talked to c-murder i asked about the rumored posthumous slim album that juve kept sayin was gonna drop and c said nuh uh, slims mama wont let it happen

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

and yeah as somebody who counts alot of their favorite rappers bein from n.o. and baton rouge i have thought about that aspect alot as well... i know they been tearing down alot of the 3rd ward already so it might just be the end of the nolia

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

and what about peaches discs & tapes!!! i wonder if their insurance adjuster will reimburse them for the inflated value of all those cash money cds

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

'any valuables in the house?' 'well... the picasso... my collection of classic cars....' 'sir, this policy over covers actual losses, not made-up stuff'

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I will say this about the 'why did they build there in the first place huh huh stupid people' complaining/mockery -- while it's obviously expanded greatly over time, we *are* talking about a city that's been around for three hundred years plus, so unless someone wants to go back in time and berate the original French city planners...

(That said, I would be interested in a historical overview of the city's topographical history -- when the levees were built, etc.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah word ned i think building new orleans is pretty low on the list of stupid things ppl did in the 1700s

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, yeah, all those $30-40 cds!

I'm also sad about Lousiana Music Factory and all those studios with all those masters.

I've been trying to check in with the brass band dudes, it seems like most of them got out or are okay but a lot are unaccounted for. Lil' Stooges are all from the 9th ward, I think.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

spanish were there before the french, in the 1600s i think.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Hurricane Katrina Flickr group

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

all the southern cats who wouldnt be rappin if not for no limit and master p should do a 504 charity single

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah word ned i think building new orleans is pretty low on the list of stupid things ppl did in the 1700s

Especially if the core of the town (xpost whoever built it -- Spanish were probably the first, yeah) was originally on the high ground, as I gather it was (thus the French Quarter etc.). In otherwards, for a small settlement in unstable land but near an obviously important potential river port area, they doubtless chose what was best going to work.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

t.i., david banner, young jeezy, ludacris, jacki-o, rasheeda, stat quo, young buck - we're sending our love down the well

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

'jeezy you look tired, maybe you should take a rest' 'not while one of my fans needs me!!'

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, this is creeping me out:

4:21 P.M. - WWL-TV Reporter quotes officials as saying there may now be 60,000 people in the Superdome and that more people are still being urged to go there.

...but they just said they're trying to evacuate it? I assume they're just doing their best to get people to one spot *for* evacuation but still.

(This all said, 3's concept is amusing the hell out of me.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i actually think nothing put me in a fouler mood today than flipping through endless hurricane coverage and suddenly coming upon Jenna Elfman dressed in some goofy outfit and embarrassing a dumbstruck Thomas Gibson in that shit sitcom of theirs.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm also sad about Lousiana Music Factory and all those studios with all those masters.

Jesus, I never even thought about this til now.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

why did they put ppl in the superdome to begin with? did they think it would all blow over in a couple days and they could go back home?? why not just get a few hundred buses and take em up to some other shelter, since its gonna cost alot more than that to evacuate them from a flooded city

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i think the idea was that a temporary encampment for a few days could be set up and the Superdome's builders reckoned it could stand up wholly to 200MPH winds.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The Superdome thing...yeah, you're right. I'm starting to wonder more and more.

Meanwhile here's some stuff from nola.com's blog (this includes a few things I've already posted):

Users report that the area near West Jefferson Hospital is dry, as is the 1700 block of N. Turnbull and St. Edwards near Transcontinental.

Walnut Bend and the Algiers area is reported to be doing well, with clean water and gas service.

There are several reports that the Uptown area remains unflooded, particularly around Magazine and Jefferson and Mag. and Webster; Prytania and Napoleon. Similar reports re the Garden District.

Baronne Street downtown is dry.

Port Street in the Marigny was dry this morning.

Canal Blvd. around Harrison is underwater, but a user posts that the water does NOT seem to be rising at all, regardless of what the nat'l. media reports.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Wikipedia's entry on Katrina is pretty outstanding

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

www.loyno.edu is dead.

waterlogged out, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i got the impression from reading this book (obv. now updated) that a lot of the flood abatement efforts undertaken in the 20th century by the army c of e might lead to something like this, but i dunno for sure. anybody know if there's a decent centuries-long view of the lower mississippi in print?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

obv. now outdated, i mean.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I too am worried about the welfare of Ca$h Money and No Limit.

(Am glad that Adam and Rock are OK.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.seriesbooks.com/huckleberryfinn03.jpg

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

lower mississppi, 3.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link


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