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Haha I love how Calum can condemn sexists and then expound on what women should and shouldn't wear in the same breath. It's masterful, really!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/nedGal4.jpg

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

i wish i could find the picture of the VWGolf painted in burberry check.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

Those guys are totally In Full Gear!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

the middle one is c-man, he's an indie kid right?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

so did we clear up how much it costs to rent in edinburgh yet? approx. same as glasgow probably. haha i don't even know anyone in edinburgh. gah.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

If I had meant 1992 I would = a ned

I see my name is being taken in vain again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

i read this weird thing about feminism once, it said something about the point of feminism being that the idea was that women should be able to act in whatever way they pleased, and not have to conform to any male point of view on what that should be, and that the days of what are 'suitable' ways for women to act would one day be over

c-man, do you think that feminism is about women acting a certain way, or about having the freedom to not have to act a certain prescribed way?

man, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 08:41 (twenty years ago) link

The berts bar i was referring to is in the west end behind shandwick place, but the stockie one sounds quite promising.

When i was thinking of renting last year the rents for a one bedroom flat in a semi decent area came in at about £400pcm but they could have gone up since then, sorry i can't be more precise, i decided to buy instead.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago) link

Bert's is still there, behin Shandwick Place. They still do excellent pies too.

hmmmmm, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:29 (twenty years ago) link

Glad to hear it, ta.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:32 (twenty years ago) link

£200 for a bedroom in a shared flat is a good price nowadays. I pay £550 for a three-bedroom place, which I think is damn cheap for Edinburgh.

(I really should get flatmates some time; it might be damn cheap for three bedrooms, but it's not if you're the only one living there)

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:45 (twenty years ago) link

That is really cheap for here, i wonder what i'd get if rented my flat out.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

Well, it is a ex-council flat. It's right near the city centre, though.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:10 (twenty years ago) link

Mine's an ex-council flat, but it's not that close to the city centre, kind of between leith and portobello (not lochend i should add).

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

Aaah. Mine's on the Dumbiedykes estate.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:24 (twenty years ago) link

I used to live just up the road from there, in Newington. Are there still dodgy folk roaming around with scary rotweilers or has the holyrood effect gentrified the area?

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:33 (twenty years ago) link

Nah, still plenty of dodgy folk :-)

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:34 (twenty years ago) link

I feel I should retract my earlier statement. I am both tidy and lovely, just in case any potential flatmates are reading this.

kathryn m (kathryn m), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

A propos of nothing... here is a list of my all time top 5 Edinburgh pubs... as far as I know only three still exist, you just had to be there, y'know?

5. The Antiquary on St Stephen's Street, Stockbridge. By the time you've walked all the way down Frederick Street, you need a few drinks before you can face the climb back up... used to do a champagne happy hour (quite out of character with it's surroundings) with champers for £10 a bottle, which once caused me to end up halfway over the Forth Road Bridge (search the "Phantom Pubs" thread - best thread ever on ILE in my opinion...)

4. The Penny Black in the east end. Posties pub, opens at 5am, shuts at 6pm. They are used to it, so whatever you do, it won't matter. Occasionally you do spot a genuine postman - usually though it's just very, very drunk people putting Neil Diamond on the jukebox. I once tried to phone my then girlfriend from this pub at 6am to tell her that Robbie Williams had left Take That. She was not impressed.

3. The Pelican (RIP) on the Cowgate. Open til a ridiculous time during the festival. Poncey and townie and full of idiots, but scene of so many happy evenings that it warrants a mention anyway. Hilarious mic-wielding DJ would intersperse "This one's for Sharon, who's 22 tonight!" with "Security to the dancefloor please..." on a regular basis...

2. The St James Oyster Bar (RIP) on Calton Road, now called Pivo I think. I worked here for a couple of years, so I am biased, but it was ace. Too many highlights to mention - Gregor the rude quizmaster, "Sleepless Nights" - a sad cowboy club me and Kevin used to run, watching them film Trainspotting outside, all the HMV gang, Sandy singing "Down By the River", serving Peter Perrett Dover sole...

1. The Marina Hotel between Inverleith Terrace and Montague Terrace in Goldenacre. You have to go. It's a blast. The only pub I have been in since that comes close is the Palm Tree in Mile End.

I'll never go back to Edinburgh, cos it's a soul destroying shithole, but it was great fun while it lasted. And you really should check out that Phantom Pubs thread...

reclusive hero (reclusive hero), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link

'soul destroying shithole' - explain please.

Pivo is shit. Really loud tedious music and always really busy. Shit chairs too. Really annoying that it's the nearest pub to the venue.

I have never been to any of the pubs you describe although I may now do so.

hmmmmmm, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

well, i guess i was being a bit harsh... there's nothing intrinsically wrong with Edinburgh, most of my resentment towards it is personal - sometimes a place starts to take on a character of it's own and in my mind at least, Edinburgh was out to get me. All in the past now thankfully.

I've been in Pivo a few times for old times sake and yes, it is pretty shit. It always makes me laugh though that in the bit at the start of Trainspotting where Ewan McGregor gets run down, the "road" the car is coming out of isn't actually a road. He only drank Appletise, you know...

reclusive hero (reclusive hero), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

I don't give a shit what feminism is really. I was brought up by women and never had a central male figure in my life so I'm of the opinion that women are as capable and deserving of high paid jobs as men. I am more respectful towards women than men (perhaps because of my upbringing). I hate it when I see a woman not making the best of her appearance, because - really - the opposite sex is the most beautiful thing in the world.

I think, however, that girls who have decided it would be great imitate the very dregs of masculinity - drinking, footie, casual sex, acting like an arsehole - is unwise. It just makes me shake my head and it's a dumbass thing to aspire to.

C-Man (C-Man), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

That is fair enough, it is good that you have views on the best way women should act, and perhaps some of them will actually listen to what you say, and improve themselves to a standard you consider higher.

But, on the other hand, are drinking and casual sex, really that bad. I think they are really rather fun

Lady, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

rent out to me! rent out to me! haha sorry. i don't even know if i'll definitely be moving to edinburgh just yet but it's what i want to do.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

Casual Sex, as I've explained many times, has 0% appeal to me. I'm a romantic and I'd sooner have no sex than casual sex.

C-Man (C-Man), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

you're lucky.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

How's my former colleague getting on in his new job?

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 8 January 2004 09:29 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know actually... been meaning to phone him, he left a message on new year's eve and sounded in good form though. I might have to go and visit him for a bit of peace and quiet! Do you know what his new job is? He just told me he'd moved....

reclusive hero (reclusive hero), Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:38 (twenty years ago) link

When i said new job i meant the one he started in late 2002, i think it was in a housing office in granton, last time i saw him was at our office xmas piss up in december 2002.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:47 (twenty years ago) link

Edinburghers up to 8% short

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
if any edinburgh ilxer's cd put up a desperate ilxer in town fr researching i'd be extremely grateful. i dunno tht i am definitely going to edinburgh town bt i'm thinking about it and thought i'd court the generosity of the ilx massif. can repay in smiles, bottles of wine, decent chat, company, cd-rs haha this is my correct e-mail address (below).

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 12:32 (twenty years ago) link

oh tht'd probably be friday / saturday. or monday / tuesday next week. k thx bye.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 12:33 (twenty years ago) link

haha c-man?

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

Bah. That's just when I have my parents visiting. Sorry.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

I am moving this weekend and I am worried you might be a rapist. No offence intended.

hmm, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

(they're staying from the 30th to the 9th, I think)

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

haha it's cool everybody! i wdn't normally ask (and sorry fr asking) but i'm in a fix (rushing; don't like hostels etc). thks fr responding tho.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

so is this february FAP ever going to happen?

The weather today was mental - first it was really sunny and then a blizzard started out of nowhere! bloody scotland.

also I am going to THE EGG tonight apparently Edinburgh's top indie club is it good? do i need some arts student to sign me in or something? everything is so complicated here!

kathryn m (kathryn m), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

nice place but traffic is a nightmare 1 way sytem travel sucks

Emma williams (Emma williams), Saturday, 7 February 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago) link

Any student should be able to get you in to The Egg, whether from the art college or not.

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 7 February 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

I used to work at The Egg about 10 years ago.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 16 February 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

so is this february FAP ever going to happen?

did it ?

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Shot in the dark: is anyone either looking for a flat in Edinburgh, or know anyone who is?

I've decided I should get people to move into my spare bedrooms, to share the rent out a bit. If I find two people to move in, it will be £185 each, which I think is damn cheap for Edinburgh. So, if you know anyone who's looking, let me know.

caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 14 March 2004 12:14 (twenty years ago) link

i am possibly looking for a room, and my friend may be too! shall i email you? is that an address you can check?

kathryn m (kathryn m), Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

caitlin! I might be looking for a flat in edinburgh. but I won't need to move in until september and anyway it isn't confirmed yet. : /

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 14 March 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

Ahh. I really need someone right away.

Kathryn: email me. The address I use here is a real one.

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 15 March 2004 11:05 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Revive!

Need local knowledge - hiring a car on Sunday in Edinburgh - most appear to be at the Airport - I know Hertz have a place in the City itself - any others? Any local companies that are good (as opposed to the global chains)?

Ta

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

list of places. I guess, the lower the #, after the EH, the closer to the centre of town (w/ waverley station hertz being EH1). a friend of my brother's used to work, at enterprise. he got good deals but maybe because he had a friend, that worked there.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Does anyone know if Extra Width's still running at the Southern Cross on Cockburn St?

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link


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