Katrina's aftermath

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WWL now reporting that its turning very ugly with the looting: a police officer was shot in the head by a looter as he tried to confront people robbing a store. Police aren't likely to be as nice now.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i actually did know that! when i talked to c-murder i asked about the rumored posthumous slim album that juve kept sayin was gonna drop and c said nuh uh, slims mama wont let it happen

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

and yeah as somebody who counts alot of their favorite rappers bein from n.o. and baton rouge i have thought about that aspect alot as well... i know they been tearing down alot of the 3rd ward already so it might just be the end of the nolia

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

and what about peaches discs & tapes!!! i wonder if their insurance adjuster will reimburse them for the inflated value of all those cash money cds

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

'any valuables in the house?' 'well... the picasso... my collection of classic cars....' 'sir, this policy over covers actual losses, not made-up stuff'

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I will say this about the 'why did they build there in the first place huh huh stupid people' complaining/mockery -- while it's obviously expanded greatly over time, we *are* talking about a city that's been around for three hundred years plus, so unless someone wants to go back in time and berate the original French city planners...

(That said, I would be interested in a historical overview of the city's topographical history -- when the levees were built, etc.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah word ned i think building new orleans is pretty low on the list of stupid things ppl did in the 1700s

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, yeah, all those $30-40 cds!

I'm also sad about Lousiana Music Factory and all those studios with all those masters.

I've been trying to check in with the brass band dudes, it seems like most of them got out or are okay but a lot are unaccounted for. Lil' Stooges are all from the 9th ward, I think.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

spanish were there before the french, in the 1600s i think.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Hurricane Katrina Flickr group

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

all the southern cats who wouldnt be rappin if not for no limit and master p should do a 504 charity single

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah word ned i think building new orleans is pretty low on the list of stupid things ppl did in the 1700s

Especially if the core of the town (xpost whoever built it -- Spanish were probably the first, yeah) was originally on the high ground, as I gather it was (thus the French Quarter etc.). In otherwards, for a small settlement in unstable land but near an obviously important potential river port area, they doubtless chose what was best going to work.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

t.i., david banner, young jeezy, ludacris, jacki-o, rasheeda, stat quo, young buck - we're sending our love down the well

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

'jeezy you look tired, maybe you should take a rest' 'not while one of my fans needs me!!'

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, this is creeping me out:

4:21 P.M. - WWL-TV Reporter quotes officials as saying there may now be 60,000 people in the Superdome and that more people are still being urged to go there.

...but they just said they're trying to evacuate it? I assume they're just doing their best to get people to one spot *for* evacuation but still.

(This all said, 3's concept is amusing the hell out of me.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i actually think nothing put me in a fouler mood today than flipping through endless hurricane coverage and suddenly coming upon Jenna Elfman dressed in some goofy outfit and embarrassing a dumbstruck Thomas Gibson in that shit sitcom of theirs.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm also sad about Lousiana Music Factory and all those studios with all those masters.

Jesus, I never even thought about this til now.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

why did they put ppl in the superdome to begin with? did they think it would all blow over in a couple days and they could go back home?? why not just get a few hundred buses and take em up to some other shelter, since its gonna cost alot more than that to evacuate them from a flooded city

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i think the idea was that a temporary encampment for a few days could be set up and the Superdome's builders reckoned it could stand up wholly to 200MPH winds.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The Superdome thing...yeah, you're right. I'm starting to wonder more and more.

Meanwhile here's some stuff from nola.com's blog (this includes a few things I've already posted):

Users report that the area near West Jefferson Hospital is dry, as is the 1700 block of N. Turnbull and St. Edwards near Transcontinental.

Walnut Bend and the Algiers area is reported to be doing well, with clean water and gas service.

There are several reports that the Uptown area remains unflooded, particularly around Magazine and Jefferson and Mag. and Webster; Prytania and Napoleon. Similar reports re the Garden District.

Baronne Street downtown is dry.

Port Street in the Marigny was dry this morning.

Canal Blvd. around Harrison is underwater, but a user posts that the water does NOT seem to be rising at all, regardless of what the nat'l. media reports.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Wikipedia's entry on Katrina is pretty outstanding

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

www.loyno.edu is dead.

waterlogged out, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i got the impression from reading this book (obv. now updated) that a lot of the flood abatement efforts undertaken in the 20th century by the army c of e might lead to something like this, but i dunno for sure. anybody know if there's a decent centuries-long view of the lower mississippi in print?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

obv. now outdated, i mean.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I too am worried about the welfare of Ca$h Money and No Limit.

(Am glad that Adam and Rock are OK.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.seriesbooks.com/huckleberryfinn03.jpg

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

lower mississppi, 3.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

that's better.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

http://seaspot.com/music/images/davidbanner2cover250.jpg

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Somewhere amidst reflexive complaining about the left re: Katrina and Jonah Goldberg seeking to prove himself a reformed and sensitive person, NRO world had this quick and moving bit from Dreher:

I finally got through to my family down in south Louisiana today. They live just north of Baton Rouge, on high ground, and had no damage, other than fallen trees. But they have no power, and don't know when they'll get it back, so they're boiling in the late August heat and humidity. Still, my sister said they would never complain, given what people are suffering not too far away. She had little idea of what's happening, because their TVs don't work. It's probably just as well. I heard from a Louisiana National Guard source that there are bodies everywhere in the far south, but the authorities aren't publicizing this.

My sister said she and the rest of the family are anticipating opening up their front yard to refugees in tents. They want to do something, anything. She said the sense of powerlessness to help the afflicted that those who emerged unscathed feel is agonizing. I know that we are going to see in the next days and weeks the strong backs and stout hearts of the people of Louisiana made manifest in the relief effort. My great aunt Hilda Moss, who died when I was a boy, was a Red Cross worker when the 1927 flood devastated so much of the state. When they told her that a woman had no business going into the back country to bring relief, she disguised herself as a man, commandeered a boat, and brought help to stranded country people. That's the spirit of Louisiana that I know. It's driving me slightly crazy to be sitting here in an office in downtown Dallas instead of down there helping.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

4:40 P.M. - (AP) State officials say they are working on plans to evaucate inmates from the Orleans Parish prison and the Jefferson Parish jail. Both facilities face a threat of flooding.


The state Corrections Department is trying to figure out how to transfer 4,000 inmates from the New Orleans jail and another 1,000 from the Jefferson Parish jail in Gretna.


The inmates would be moved to state prisons including the highest-security at Angola. Corrections spokesman Pam LaBorde says it's quite a logistical situation to accomplish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I had read earlier about the prisons rioting prior to and during the hurricane, so I'd be interested to know what the hell is happening right now.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

holy shit its like con air!!!

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

http://eiuhalloffame.com/malkovich/malkoconair1.gif

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

fuck i just realized c-murder is in jefferson parish!! :( :( :(

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Pretty grim story about Biloxi. Though the bit that sticks with me:

Richard Leland, who had traveled from his California home to experience a hurricane, admitted: "I got a little more than I had expected."

Remind me not to be next to this fucker when the big earthquake hits.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

see, there's your ghoulishness 3

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Also destroyed among the thousands of homes was Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott's 154-year-old oceanfront residence in Pascagoula, according to a spokeswoman from his office. A friend had boarded it up ahead of the hurricane's arrival Monday, said spokeswoman Susan Irby.

"He's been told there's nothing left," she said. "They plan to go out to see if they can recover any valuables."

The senator's wife, Tricia, told him the news Monday night. She had rode out the storm in their house in Jackson.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

a silver lining

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone was talking about N.O. places we've been to that are now underwater. Seems like most of the places I've been to as a tourist are probably still dry. The French Quarter and the Garden District are the only areas that I've spent any time in.

But it's horrible to think of all of those places being destroyed or damaged. The Half Moon. Tipitina's. And of course, all the wonderful people down there.

My wife and I met each other face-to-face in New Orleans. One day, we drove all the way down LA 45 until it dead-ended at a refinery. To think that all of that may be gone now. It's horrible.

This is a horrible analogy, but forgive me, I'm producing a sports-talk show right now. Just like one sees more of a football game from the huddle than from the Goodyear blimp, I can only imagine the ungodly horrors that are taking place basically before our eyes everytime a helicopter's camera swoops over the devastation.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

a silver lining

I admit I thought, "No tears for you, Senator Fuckface."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

god didn't want him to publish that book.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i was watching UPN 13 here in L.A., what with their "loose, wacky" newscast, and they devote about 30 seconds to each news story. Their headline for Katrina last night? "AWESOME DAMAGE"

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Don Allred just sent me an email to assure me he's all right. I supposed he would be, since where he is - betw. Selma and Montgomery - missed the brunt of Katrina. But I was worried anyway, because that's how I am. He's been talking to a friend who stayed down around Mobile, so maybe he'll have some interesting news later.

(I'm sure my motives for being interested in disasters are far worse than Ned's. I've always regretted that in November 1963 I turned off the TV and went out to play 15 minutes before Lee Harvey Oswald was shot. I could have seen it! And this last July I was telling people "I know some people who lost a friend in the London bombings." Of course, it affected me, to know London ILX was going through grief, but also it was like I was passing along gossip, as if to say "Look at me, I'm in the know, I'm connected to this thing" (from which I was actually very distant). It's human, I'm human. And there's a sense in which these Big Stories become a conversation piece and connection between a lot of us. I must say, I enjoyed ILX immensely in the weeks following 9-11.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

what about the houses of the three remaining singing senators????

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

"And God said, 'Only punish the baritone. I'll deal with the rest later.'"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i wonder how less the media would care about this if it was just a bunch of random coastal towns in mississippi instead of the sophisticated yankee tourist destination of new orleans

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

ALOT LESS

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link


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