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harris I love you.
haverchuck I love you.
schweiber I love you.
weir I love you.
gordon crisp I love you!

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

My girlfriend had never seen this until last night. We watched the first two episodes and about half of the third before we got too sleepy. What a great show; the ability to be both so serious and so funny at the same time is really admirable, and I (as I assume many of you do) identify with the characters WAY MORE than the characters on the average sitcom.

― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 16 January 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm so sad that I have only 6 episodes left, after watching 6 in a row this weekend. The norseman head had me in hysterics for 10 minutes. Plus, Nick Andopolis will you marry me?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Leee, give me a few weeks to get through the episodes and the set can be yours (for a small fee :P).

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Quick question -- was a kid from "Trekkies" in "F+G" I swear.... fuck!

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Monday, 7 February 2005 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

No, the TV was off, that was your reflection.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 February 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I think I've watched 3/4 of the episodes now. Still find it all a bit trying.

Joe Flaherty was the worst thing about the show.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

yah he wasnt the best on Maniac Mansion either.

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I am secretly glad that Lindsay's arc concluded with her FOLLOWING A BAND. Even if I hate said band.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

i've still never seen this show, but now i want to because busy philipps was in it.

― christo and jeanne-claude (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think you and I are going to agree re: anything on this show melissa (which translates basically as 'I don't think I will agree w. anything bad anyone says abt this show' because I am a gushy gushy fanboy dork) which is cool obv ('let it go, dude') but can I just say you are insane! sorry sorry. :)

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

cozen OTM.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh the tears when Neil is sitting on his bed with the dummy and you realize his entire family, including his mom, knows about his dad and they all turn a blind eye to it. I thought this was an extremely well written episode in that it took all of the characters out of the usual high school setting to see how they cope.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Let's not forget KRUMHOLTZ. I wish he'd stuck around longer.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't recall Krumholtz?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

jody you MUST see this show! i'm shocked you haven't already!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Today my favorite F&G minor character is the blonde curly-haired guy who, when Nick puts his hand in his girlfriend's back pocket, says "YEAH, NICK, GRAB ME A PIECE!" and then in the episode when Millie is hanging out with the freaks, he's perving on her and says "I love it when the good girls go bad."

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I love that guy too, he's always under the bleachers. I think he's called Brian?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

one of the best shows EVAH

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Rock and roll doesn't come from your heart, it comes from your crotch!

― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone else think that Millie is kind of hot? My friend B3n and I both think so, but Sarah thinks we are crazy.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, guess I'm alone on that one.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.asuh.com/images/IMG_3777.jpg
Aw, they're all grown up now.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

who's that on the left?

― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Cindy Sanders.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Why doesn't that pic work for me?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

minor characters:

stroker represent!

the little kid that maureen sits next to on her first day at school (with the glasses on)!

the guy that tells franco abt the dude who broke his leg in gym class!

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Millie has a certain cuteness that is of course a bit on the creepy side, and made even more creepy by her role. By the time she was on Buffy the creepy had bloomed out to dominate. Also she was creepy-skinny. Anyway.

Cindy Sanders is looking pretty cool in that picture! (n/a, just cutting and pasting the location worked for me.)

― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

The girl who played Cindy Sanders is really annoying in the commentary tracks. She has this really stop-and-start way of speaking and is very self-deprecating in an unattractive way.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I found most of the commentaries pretty useless - *except* for the one where the three teachers do the whole thing in character, which was fucking hilarious. The best are the outtakes - can't believe what got left on the cutting room floor. That scene in Cindy's room where they're dancing and she asks Sam to "serenade" her is so completely, painfully, horribly funny. And the Kowchevski "coming out" sequence also = priceless.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Cindy Sanders is looking pretty cool in that picture!

Also - SHE'S INDIE HOT! I'D HIT IT! UNGH UNGH UNGH!

― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't see the photo but I never thought Cindy was attractive on the show - she seemed really bland-lookin to me (thus Sam's obsession initially seemed even more shallow to me than it actually turned out to be in the end, ie "nerd desires cheerleader")

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Cindy Sanders looked fourteen!

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't see that photo but schweiber!

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

photo url:

http://www.asuh.com/images/IMG_3777.jpg

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Sam & Neil are on Myspace.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been watching the box set in sequence (I'm on Episode 6) and I've got two questions for you all. First, whenever I watch a deleted scene the weirdest thing happens: after the scene is over, the screen goes black for a while, I lose control of my DVD player and then eventually it shuts itself off. Has this happened to anyone else? Second, when Mr. Rosso sings "I'm Eighteen" is that during the final version of an episode or was that a deleted scene?

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 25 February 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah the rosso thing is from 'carded and discarded' (I think.)

also another great minor character: eli!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the way in tht rosso scene nick is so enthusiastic ("guys mr rosso's really good at the guitar!") abt his teacher singing, he does it elsewhere in the series too (when millie sings 'jesus is all right w.me'). he has just this really sincere, all-encompassing enthusiasm for music and its live performance. of course he can take it to border-line creepy and beyond into over-intense near-psychotic (his dry-iced, headphoned performances along w.rush). james franco's sexy fuck-me teeth-flashing in that scene, when he starts singing along too (!!!), is also awesome.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the way in tht rosso scene nick is so enthusiastic ("guys mr rosso's really good at the guitar!") abt his teacher singing
Yup.

Did all teenagers listen to The Who back in 1981 tho'?

The anachronisms (this one didn't seem so off) are really annoying.

The anachronisms really don't bother me at all

This isn't an anachronism. 1980 was still part of the classic rock era. The number one song in the yearly poll on WNEW-FM, "Where Rock Lives," (but my cabdriver was playing it yesterday, instead of a classic rock station, now it is a classic disco station!) was "Won't Get Fooled Again" year after year back in those days. In fact, the only quibble I've found is when Ken says to Nick "Why would you even know that song?" about Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4." I don't see any good reason why Ken wouldn't know it himself.

I'm into the second half of my marathon viewing- last episode on fourth disc. Wish me luck.

― Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

The way everyone loves this show so much makes me want to say I hate it.

But I don't hate it, I just feel strangely disconnected from it. And I do think it's fairly flawed. But something about it just doesn't ring quite emotionally true.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

the way everyone loves this show so much makes me want to say I hate it.

do you trust this instinct (assuming its an instinct)?

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 27 February 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

How do you mean?

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 27 February 2005 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

why are you watching it then?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i recline corrected on the Who.

I'm a bit in the Melissa camp and think I've realized my particular issues. yes, it rings a bit true, but one, i'm just a little too young for it. two, the people i went to high school with were a lot smarter. also, urban. also, richer.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, the smarter thing might be it. In high school, I was light years beyond these people, and even Lindsay's issues are ones I had moved beyond by the age of 12.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

two, the people i went to high school with were a lot smarter. also, urban. also, richer.

Cue Slacker thread. They may have been "richer" and "urban," but the unique group of geniuses you grew up with exists primarily in your head.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

oh yes, i forgot. you are an authority on the matter, in fact.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I just find adolescent elitism tiresome and delusional. Maybe it makes you feel better to think you're part of a super-special bourgeois cadre, but that doesn't seem to bear any relation to reality. Sorry.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, i was mentioning these things to feel part of some special cadre, not to understand. it must have been momentary forgetfulness on my part to refer to the students at my high school as merely smarter than those on a tv show, rather than among the best in the nation.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 27 February 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

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