i am not outraged! neither zirin nor i caught feelings over what simmons said, we're just pointing out that it was a dumb thing to say and it was doubly retarded that he didn't take it back when called on it
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link
milo aside from you being an annoying libertarian all over the site
recently tiger is not out of his prime, watch golf
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think the hard thing for Tiger is to play, the hard thing is to play and be competitive and to win
― noted schloar (dyao), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i could just point out that most golfers enter their primes in their mid-30s, but i don't see what it would matter
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Nicklaus's first and last major wins were separated by 24 years. Tiger Woods is in the 11th year of his pro career, and is in much better shape than Nicklaus ever was.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, but you also pointed out that I'm a libertarian, so your points are pretty suspect
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I know not your politics.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
lol iirc you and j0rdan actually share pretty similar opinions about tiger
ur thinking of taylor swift here
― (Head) (Lamp), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
xp - after Nicklaus turned 34 he won four majors for the rest of his career. He was deeply past his prime (as in being largely irrelevant for winning majors) when he was 40.
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
j0rdan and i share pretty similar opinions on EVERYTHING except for tiger woods
xp
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
both of you are basically saying "tiger needs to man up" itt
― noted schloar (dyao), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
A golfer with 4 majors would be tied for the 19th-most in golf history, for what it's worth, and it's also how many Tiger needs to catch Jack.
I think he will get more than 4. Just a hunch!
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
no i dont think he can take the perez hilton posts, he definitely should retire
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Some golfers who have not even won 4 majors in their entire careers: Phil Mickelson, Vijay Singh, Ernie Els, Padraig Harrington, Nick Price, Greg Norman...
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link
the most intriguing part of his whole comeback is whether or not someone in the gallery is gonna jeer him at a silent moment ("get in her hole!!") and whether that person will be beat out of consciousness by everyone else
btw the sports media is pissed at tiger for engineering the no-questions presser -- i wouldn't be surprised if they're tougher on him than yall are expecting
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Remember when Alex Rodriguez was going to be a huge distraction last year?
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i was going to mention that too, dude had an affair with MADONNA and no one gave a shit
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
a-rod was a distraction for the first month of the season when he was hitting .220
also it's a weird thing to compare cuz a-rod was able to be overshadowed in the baseball world by the natural occurrences of the sport -- 30 other teams are playing pretty much every night, but with tiger golf coverage pretty much begins and ends with him. there is nothing to overshadow him.
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's absurd to say that the first few weeks (if not longer) of tiger's return will not be a distraction to the sport
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:57 (fourteen years ago) link
well i'm not a sportswriter so i'd never say anything would be a "distraction" with a straight face - there will be lots of media coverage for his first couple tournaments. if he plays well, it will subside
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Thursday, 4 March 2010 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link
It would, but I think he'll win around eight more.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link
charles pierce weighs in again
http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/pierce/2010/03/again_with_the_history_thing.html
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 March 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
strongly considered getting a boston.com commenting account just to mock pierce, but not worth it
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
it's kind of a sadly anonymous blog...
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 March 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
like i said, i read boston.com daily and didn't even know about it until this simmons thing happened
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link
yoooooooo
"I am again left to marvel how somebody can rise to a fairly prominent media position with no discernible insight or talent, save for an apparent ability to mix up a vast bowl of word salad very quickly." - Olbermann, today
sportsguy33 KO, please know the feeling is mutual. You're my worst case scenario for my career in 12 yrs: a pious, unlikable blowhard who lives alone.
― jizzchin (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 March 2010 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link
HOO!
― ice cr?m, Friday, 5 March 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link
d-d-d-daaaaaaaamn
― sbing is the only love (Lamp), Friday, 5 March 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
this is not even true btw. yanks had a 10 game win streak w/in a wk of him coming back
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 6 March 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
it might distract the sport some but i agree the golf reporters/broadcasters are gonna treat him v. softly
when they 1st announced he was making that "statement" @ pga hq i heard it referred to abt 4 times in promos as his 1st public statement since his 1-car accident, no elaboration of any cheating, etc
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 6 March 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
^during golf coverage i mean
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 6 March 2010 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
And Simmons is an easy target, the sports world Chuck Klosterman, but it's pretty hard to argue his love of boxing or Ali in particular.
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, March 2, 2010 3:20 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark
Simmons doesn't know shit about boxing. He knows basketball, some football and baseball (the Red Sox, mostly).
With boxing he's a dilettante and should really just shut the fuck up most of the time.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 6 March 2010 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Case in point, his ridiculous "last great fight" article re: Mayweather-De La Hoya.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 6 March 2010 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Putting aside the social/turmoil issue, from a physical standpoint Ali was still in his boxing prime (28) and hadn't taken the physical punishment of boxing for over three years. Contrast to Tiger being on the way out of his golfing prime and coming back from a recent injury.
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z)
Ali hadn't sparred in years, had gotten fat, lost a dramatic amount of his speed. And he was going to have to go 15 rounds with Joe fucking Frazier.
Tiger has a sore knee. Give me a fucking break.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 6 March 2010 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link
yo I know I'm late to the party but what makes me maddest about all this is Simmons reaching for the tenuous Ali connection when there is an infinitely more reasonable comparison available in the form of 2003 Kobe Bryant
― some pretty girls make bigger graves than others (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 March 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link
xp - except Ali didn't fight Frazier right away.
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Sunday, 7 March 2010 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link
otm http://www.thenation.com/blog/164638/nba-players-welcome-99-percent
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
^ absolutely fucking OTM.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
i was otm on this thread
― max, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
mystic river was a horrible movie max
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny that charlie pierce now writes for bill simmons' website
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
that's a good piece by zirin. it's shameful that public sentiment isn't with the players.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
i think people already think the players are spoiled babies and they dont really know who the owners are is the dynamic at work here
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
seems like the owners successfully convinced everyone that the league is not profitable while there was absolutely no way to do that with the nfl.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
why is it that "the public" gets all up in arms about athletes getting paid but not about like movie stars? is it that hollywood is seen as more of a business than ml sports? or is it about the fact that most americans played sports as kids?
― max, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
its because of racism
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
lol, duh, cant believe i forgot about america
― max, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
i bet most people don't even really know how much movie stars make beyond "a lot"! whereas if you follow a team closely there's a good chance you know the salaries of most of the ppl on that team.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
also racism