its good to have limits
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link
s4 is gonna rule dudes
― blueski, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link
I like that they are doing this with both BSG and Lost. Nobody wants to watch shows as they descend into X-Files/Alias nonsense.
― schwantz, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah open-ended shows are always tarnished by their latter-day suckage.
(Sopranos also wise to do this)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link
more shows should do this. it was so sad see the x-files become a lame parody of itself.
― latebloomer, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Especially ones with BIG SECRETS (Lost, Alias, X-Files) or Gilligan's Island syndrome (BSG, Lost).
― schwantz, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link
x-post
Counter-example, however - Star Trek Voyager - weak-ass, tacked-on, convoluted ending due to waning ratings.
― schwantz, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link
that one sucked from the beginning
― latebloomer, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Indeed it did. However, I think you may mean Star Trek: Enterprise, which was even worse (but actually was cut short at four years instead of going the seven allotted to TNG, DS9 and even the foetid Voyager.)
― Oilyrags, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link
Enterprise was downright blasphemous in its suckitude
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link
at least it was attempting something different. voyager was just bland.
― latebloomer, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link
predship
― cutty, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link
gornship
― Oilyrags, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link
"predship"
ouch! lol
― latebloomer, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link
I just meant the bit where Voyager finally makes it home. Maybe it wasn't due to bad ratings, but it jut felt wrong (and managed to work in some lame time-travel angle too). I like the idea of the writers at least having some idea of where a show is going, rather than just figuring it out as they go (see - or rather DON'T SEE - : the last few seasons of 24).
― schwantz, Saturday, 2 June 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link
omg i just watched the episode where there's the virus, and then sharon puts the wire in her wrist and then they build and ship and name it after the president and and omg
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link
bit of a tearjerker that one
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I vaguely remember the wrist thing.
― Drooone, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
just watched season one and first ep of season two
occasionally think bits are stupid (getting away from baddies easily, usually) or the typical having difficulty not thinking about "earth" stuff appearing in "alien" culture but do manage to forget about it, mostly. a couple of devices that I think, were they described to me, I might have thought "that will be bad and annoying" I have been able to almost not mind. wonder about the weird, shakey, zooming camerawork and lens flare in completely CGI scenes. the bit at the start, where they have the drums over bits from the ep you're about to watch, is annoying, too. on the whole, I think it's really pretty good
― RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
not thinking about "earth" stuff appearing in "alien" culture
waht this is not an alien culture
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
but they have earthly stuff plus check out my inverted commas
― RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
totally!
also rjg, stick with it, it only gets better
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
what do you mean - that they all look like humans? that they have names similar to ancient earth cultures? that they developed telephones? I don't get it... I mean its made rather sledgehammer-obvious that the colonies' cultures are precursors/contemporaries of earth's.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
like why wouldn't you expect them to develop pants and whiskey and poker chips and have dogs for pets
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
precursors?
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
(and actually while I really enjoy it I'm not sure I would say it gets better - the miniseries has yet to be topped imho)
yeah precursors like they had their thing going and then a colony got lost and left for earth - are you sure you're watching this show?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
in old battlestar there was the line "some say life here began out there"
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
i never got the impression that this was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, i thought it was the future
i'm only halfway through season two though
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost - but it's not actually made entirely clear in this series that this is what's going on, nor that it's not way in the future anyway
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
and when i said it only gets better, all i know is up to the tearjerker i said i just watched upthread, remember?
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm really glad a friend of mine has all my battlestar cds b/c i wld watch that ep right now without hesistation and i have lots of work to do
rjg your inverted commas are really great
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link
okay sorry didn't mean to spoil anything - rrobyn is nevertheless correct that the chronology is left ambiguous
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link
apology not accepted
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link
*cries*
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
sledgehammer-ambiguous
― jeff, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
*lols*
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Adama's big speech about earth at the end of the miniseries = pretty fuckin obvious
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link
hey did you notice how many of the characters have names from ancient earth cultures? WHOAH
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link
you know what I mean
if this was supposed to be an alien lifeform/culture that has, as a surprise, evolved/developed exactly along the same lines as that of earth has except they know all about space and have better guns and don't know about "fuck", well, fine. but this is twelve-thirteenths of an ancient civilisation that has been apart from the other thirteenth since no-one can remember and that thirteenth came to earth and joined in w/ life here? at what point? did they know the planet they were heading for when they left the rest of them? did they bring their culture and knowledge, so far, and got everyone to pretend they didn't know all about space and got them to change it to "fuck"? were these names and their number system and slang and so on theirs and they brought it w/ them even though they appear at certain points in earth's own history? maybe they revealed it bit by bit so it didn't seem suspicious. perhaps all the names, etc, in this television programme are just being replaced w/ earthly approximations to colour it for earthly viewing. these are pointless questions but about things that occasionally pass through, probably, a lot of the minds of people who watch this and other, similar science-fiction stuff and slightly unsuspend your disbelief. when they choose to call a ship "the olympic carrier" and people "apollo" and "thrace" and "hot dog", well, it makes me, at least, think "um", occasionally, whether I want to or not. like when the camera flies about in space and zooms in on a particular ship and I think "am I supposed to be thinking about this being filmed by a person that is in space?". that's all!
all your crossposts
― RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
there are many clues but still ambiguity as to actual time one issue with that is, like, why are there no battlestars and why am i not in a spaceship right now did they all fall out of the ship and onto earth and forget about space technology and then build aqueducts instead? xpost yep
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
omg apollo is british?!
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
their trick of making me think "well, this isn't like it is on earth" is cutting all the corners of their letters and maps and playing cards and tables
― RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
hahaha in the future/past there are no right angles
apollo actor *is* british!
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
so why doesn't battlestar galactica have any british people?
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
did they all fall out of the ship and onto earth and forget about space technology and then build aqueducts instead?
Angry monotheism God followed them to earth and punished humanity by trapping us here/making us forget our true nature, etc.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean they have a mexican and a mulatto, don't they
(iow what PKD/Grant Morrison/crazy gnostics and Peruvian UFO watchers said)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link
oh i guess gaius is britishes
― cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link
gaius is so very english
crosspost
― RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link