new novels and why they suck and whatever

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plax: if you loved Infinite Jest I'd highly recommend Bolano. he's the first *contemporary* author I really got into after reading everything by DFW. I read Savage Detectives a while ago and enjoyed it a lot, now I'm almost halfway through 2666 and loving it.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I don't have any time for Palahniuk either

insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i was really into palahniuk when i was in school and i would probably still enjoy his first few if i read them now, i lost interest around the time of diary though

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i read something by him in HS, don't remember the name of it. hated it.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really glad the dude exists though. If only to endlessly misspell his name. Also he seems really earnest.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah he is, but invisible monsters explained felching to me and is intercut w. descriptions of different kinds of vaginal construction surgery and recreational uses for prescription drugs

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I have some knee jerk reaction against new fiction and I can't exactly say why. The writers always seem like people I don't want to spend much time with, but of course who's to say that wouldn't also be true of Christopher Isherwood or W. Somerset maugham or Mikhail Bulgakov or whoever?

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

all my favorite old-timey writers kind of seem like they would have been horrible to be around.

horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I quite liked that Michael Chabon book about comics and I liked Stephen Millhauser's "Martin Dressler".

xp - yes, sure

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I have a similar knee-jerk thing that I consciously try to overcome. Threads like this help, also I find reading good, thoughtful interviews with living writers gets me excited about trying their stuff.

franny glass, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I am reading Under The Volcano now, which is great, but by all accounts Malcolm Lowry was a prick, yes?

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah he sounds crazy

horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of which, wasn't there some profile (The New Yorker, I think) that mentioned his incredibly small penis

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

that profile is my source for thinking he was bonkers. strangely didn't recall the thing about his penis.

horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

more importantly, did he eat any truffle fries

insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes i read things that are not the new yorker btw :/

horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I have some knee jerk reaction against new fiction and I can't exactly say why. The writers always seem like people I don't want to spend much time with,

The novels are better company.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

xxp

franny glass, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

What about short fiction? Some new short form writing seems good. I read Black Clock sometimes which varies but has good things in it. Expensive, though. How is Granta these days?

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

She's slipped a bit, but, god, I love Alice Munro.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The novels are better company.

Of course, but I can't help but be hyper aware of the person behind the novel. I'm married to a writer though! =)

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

granta's pretty :/ these days. The stuff I read in the new electric literature was p. good if kind of relying on big writers in the lit mag or lit conference circuit these days.

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Two of my best friends are total Alice Munro freaks. i rly need to check her out.

Loathsome Dov (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

my older sister has 2666. it is big. she gave it to me and my other sister said "its really hard to find the kind of books i like"

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i like agni. should probably read more lit journals.

horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

any suggestions for "historical fantasy that is not about vampires in the '40s"

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

plax I highly recommend Moorcock's Pyat novels, a re-counting of the first half of the 20th century as told through a highly unreliable narrator who fancies himself a scientific genius but is actually just a deluded stooge. hits all the high points - the Russian Revolution, Roaring 20s and Depression-era America, north Africa and the middle east just prior to WWII, and then of course a love affair with Hitler. Fantastic.

insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I second the love for Alice Munroe, I've only read Runaway, but it was really good and I'll def be seeking out more.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Munro*

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Did anyone read "Tree Of Smoke" and can they recommend it? I hate to admit it, but I do not read enough female authors.

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i read about 40 pages of tree of smoke and stopped. couldn't get into it.

Moreno, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Also are who are the good contemporary authors from Asia? I am particularly interested in South and Southeast Asian authors.

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Good thread, btw

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

plax, re: excellent historical fantasy, try anything by Tim Powers (except for his lone vampire one). Anubis Gates and Last Call particularly recommended.

Loathsome Dov (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

There was a contemporary Chinese novel reviewed in the Times last year, I believe the title was 'Living And Dying Are Getting Me Down', which sounded hella awesome, subversive talking animal stuff.

Loathsome Dov (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

my older sister has 2666. it is big.

it's easy to read, though. i've read half of it in less than a week.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I started The Savage Detectives but it really annoyed me

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

what about it?

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Too meta? The wrong kind of meta?

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Definitely willing to give it another try

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

huh, i guess i find his kind of meta to be fairly subtle. or well integrated into the story/characters.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Too many characters to keep track of in that second section (says the guy reading Dickens).

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i think i'm gonna end up liking 2666 a lot more than The Savage Detectives

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

There was a contemporary Chinese novel reviewed in the Times last year, I believe the title was 'Living And Dying Are Getting Me Down', which sounded hella awesome, subversive talking animal stuff.

Sorry, missed this. Thanks! Google search not turning anything up, sadly.

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

What I want is the literary equivalent of an Apichatpong film.

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

would read ^

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ah:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/books/review/Spence-t.html

Thanks, JL!

Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, yes, 'Life And Death Are Wearing Me Out' was it. It's good for me to be reminded, I need to track that book down.

Loathsome Dov (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

What I want is the literary equivalent of an Apichatpong film.

The good parts of Pound's Cantos?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link


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