Sarah Silverman: Funny or not? Hot or not?

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"Sarah Silverman's annoying" = "Fatty Arbuckle's fat"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I like both Sarah Silverman and Adam Carolla.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"Sarah Silverman's annoying" = "Fatty Arbuckle's fat"

Ooh, great comparison. Her being annoying is a completely valid reason to dislike her act whereas disliking someone because they're fat is a little 'fattist.'

Do you seriously believe you have a watertight argument here? Give me a break. Just because you bought into her act doesn't mean your interpretation or opinion is right. It's more likely that she's just a bitchy elitist stoner who gets away with things by saying them "funny."

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Dear Dr. Morbius:

Yes, I have listened to Lenny Bruce. I think some of his bits were funny, and many more just sound dumb. I personally think he is over-deified by today's hipsters; many of his bits were just, y'know, jokes. (I also think Bill Hicks is overrated, and mostly for the same reasons.) But I agree that he was often 'transgressive' for his time.

However, as you well know, Bruce operated in a different milieu than we do now. It would take a lot more -- a direct threat against the president, eating a fetus onstage, etc. -- for Sarah Silverman or any comedian to get arrested for his or her "craft." And yes, that would be transgressive all right, but also stupid, boring, and unfunny.

This is what I was attempting to get at in my previous post, and I think you know that. Sorry I didn't spell it all out. Thanks for calling me a fucktard.

Love,

Matt

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't even said whether or not I "buy into her act". I'm kind of undecided, actually. And I'm not saying that you can't dislike Sarah Silverman. I'm just saying that she is supposed to be annoying, and if you're annoyed by her, SHE WINS.
The Fatty Arbuckle equation merely was like, Fatty Arbuckle's girth was his #1 comedic device, as Silverman's obnoxiety is for her.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

a direct threat against the president, eating a fetus onstage, etc.

DAN WHERE ARE YOU

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Lenny's "faith healer" bit is still funny, and I liked the autobio's section when he talks about religious conservatives.

kingfish cold slither (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

"obnoxiety"

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I really don't think Sarah Silverman's goal is for people to turn the channel when she comes on. That's not really "winning."

Judy Tenuda was annoying, too. I guess that means she "won".

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

She got to marry Emo Phillips. Is this a win or a loss?

kingfish cold slither (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

who gets away with things by saying them "funny."

Uh oh, is this turning into another ILX meta discussion?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Emo Phillips vs. Jimmy Kimmell. Hmmm... I'll go with Emo.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU LOVE EMO!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Judy Tenuta was funny.

>Fatty Arbuckle's girth was his #1 comedic device<

Hmmmm... if so, he knew how to use it. Otherwise Chris Farley would've been as funny as Arbuckle.

Ah, Sourpuss does short and long sarcasm.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU LOVE EMO!!!

i do. I 'm just asking her that.

kingfish cold slither (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

chris farley was funnier than fatty arbuckle

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh oh, is this turning into another ILX meta discussion?
Why not? Isn't that easier and more fun than having the actual discussion?

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

a) she does one joke that is really one of the best, funniest jokes i've ever heard, but i haven't been turned on by anything else

b) the word "hot" used to describe someone's attractiveness is decidedly non-hot, keep up people

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

chris farley was funnier than fatty arbuckle

I agree with this.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

As for Silverman, she has a pretty fantastic delivery... clear build-up, fake-out "false" punchline (reactionary, predictable stereotypes) immediately followed by the phrase-turning, "real" punchline. The joke in the film about "half-black... pessimistic... half-white" is probably the best example I can think of.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

It's hit or miss though and when it misses, it misses BIG TIME.

theoritical prius (dr g), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes. Especially since it depends sort of on the first punchline being a disappointment.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd like to see her develop into more of a story-based comedian, building to bigger punchlines like the one you just mentioned. I can appreciate the schtick, but it gets tiresome to hear 10 one liners in a row.

theoritical prius (dr g), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

She also looks like she's got that kind of translucent skin where you can see blue veins in her ass, legs and bottom of her breasts.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I think it's kind of um...maybe not "hot" strictly speaking...it connotes fragility (which is kind of fucked up, really) and I think it's an enjoyable contrast to her otherwise indelicate schtick. Am looking forward to her bit on The Aristos.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I'D HIT IT

Jdubz (ex machina), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

>>chris farley was funnier than fatty arbuckle>it gets tiresome to hear 10 one liners in a row

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

You say that like it's a bad thing.

It looks like fish belly or something. Grosser and grosser with age.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

No, no, Laurel OTM.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know what's happening w/ my quote-posts; anyhoo...


chris farley was funnier than fatty arbuckle<

Damn, there IS no arguing people out of a laugh...

We won't positively know until one of Farley's proteges surpasses Buster Keaton, and based on The Showbiz Show with David Spade it's a longshot.

it gets tiresome to hear 10 one liners in a row<

Despite the evident talent, this is why I've never liked Steven Wright for more than 3 minutes.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i appreciate that she's raunchy & female & the fact of her being female isn't brought up every two seconds, at least in terms of her craft. her being female gets brought up in the "hot vs. not hot" discussions. she's a strong female in what is a typically more male centered world & she's doin' her thing.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

The Waldo Lydecker of ILX strikes again.

(xpost)

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link


No, no, Laurel OTM.

Ok, now let's rationalize her hairy body, close-together eyes, weird nose and mousy face, please.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Despite the evident talent, this is why I've never liked Steven Wright for more than 3 minutes.

When it dawned on me that he was just Henny Youngman who just got out of bed, I thought that too.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, now let's rationalize her hairy body, close-together eyes, weird nose and mousy face, please.

I like arm hair on women, to an extent.

As for her nose: she's a Jew, duh.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

The Waldo Lydecker of ILX strikes again.<

Ken, howja know I was in the tub? I strive for Addison DeWitt, anyway.

So the hairy-bodied are not funny? That must mean Robin Williams grew his in 1987!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, now let's rationalize her hairy body, close-together eyes, weird nose and mousy face, please.

Cut the anti-semitism out!

Jdubz (ex machina), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Sarah Silverman vs. Bonnie MacFarlane

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

As for her nose: she's a Jew, duh.

Is this somehow supposed to mean it "hot" then?

And the eyes?

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just sayin', it is what it is.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

And it is not attractive to me. This is why I offered my opinion that she was not funny or hot.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

when she looks just right, she looks alright.
when she's funny, she's pretty funny.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Would I be spoiling the whole thing by pointing out the obvious here -- that it's bizarrely fucked to have long discussions about whether she's attractive or not? I mean, I know it's in the thread title, but geez, I mean: hairy arms or whatever, I rather have sex with her than David Cross or Brian Posehn or something, so I'm not sure how it really matters. It's not like she's too ugly to be a comedian, or anything.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Vaginist!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, I know it's in the thread title

Thread title asks for opinions. People want to debate opinions = long discussions. End of bewilderment.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think it's that weird to talk about whether she's attractive. Maybe a little weird to focus on individual body parts, but I think it's only really strange to talk about it on an Internet message board. It's the kind of discussion you usually have with your bros.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it's weird.

not to jump back on the girl wagon, but we'd never have a board that talked about every little detail on a guy comedian. i mean, who gives a fuck if jerry seinfeld has hairy arms? who honestly cares that sarah silberman does?! is she only worthy if she's fuck-able? is she funnier if she is? it's annoying.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

It's certainly not one women would have about Dave Attell.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

is she only worthy if she's fuck-able? is she funnier if she is?

If you want to know these questions, you should start a thread with these questions in the title.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I strive for Addison DeWitt, anyway

Good man!

Cub seems to like her jokes and think she's fine, so he's asking if he's alone in this, or if there are others. I happen to know some girls who find, Dennis Leary, for example, or Jon Stewart, handsome so I don't think it's illegitimate to ask if others do as well. I think she's a very pretty example of a type of Jewess that I find attractive but if that's not your thing, no amount of PC exhortation will make you fancy her.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

teh funny = teh sexy for women though. Men have yet to evolve that far.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link


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