― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Hm, that analysis looks like it's examining the housing market in a vacuum to me, without reference to outside factors like a disastrous pensions system and a tax system which (I think) has been geared to encourage the private rented sector since the 80s.
Also it seems to me that a lot of the buytolettists are only looking to cover costs, because what they want is the asset at the end, which warps the concept of "real" value a bit, doesn't it?
Anyway, as I say (and as I've likely just demonstrated) I don't know what I'm on about.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes and no. The buytolettists are probably the ones driving the bubble, to be honest. Like everyone who wanted in on this South Seas company, they see a quick buck.
But the prices they're paying mean that quickly the rent they have to charge even to cover costs vastly outstrips the price renters will pay. The owners can take a loss, but eventually they'll have to get rid of the house. If that happens to a lot of people, the price will drop dramatically -- and the bubble bursts.
Your points about the market are good, but the reason a bubble is easier to see in houses is that everyone needs to live somewhere. The rental value is the price they're prepared to pay for that. If the cost of a house vastly outstrips it, it has been put there by some other factor. If that factor is actually based on the potential rental value that it's now outstripping, there's a big problem there.
Does that make sense? Speaking as someone who dropped economics to spend more time in bed on other things.
― stet (stet), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― ledge (ledge), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 6 January 2007 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 04:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 6 January 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Also they always have new gizmos in them that haven't quite been mass produced yet and so are still expensive, like that adaptive cruise control that makes sure you're always the right distance from the car in front.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 6 January 2007 07:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Saturday, 6 January 2007 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link
As for movie theater popcorn, I have no idea how anyone can finish off more than that one little bag you can get for about $2.50, and even that will sometimes present a challenge. I think five people can easily split the popcorn in one of those huge buckets. So that's not that bad. Now movie ticket prices, OTOH, namely the ones for the national theater chains, are getting out of control. When I have to pay for matinee prices that which just a few years ago would have been the regular price for a ticket, that becomes the time for me to switch over to our local movie theater chain permanently.
― Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Saturday, 6 January 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link
I went to buy a massive frying pan with a lid. I suppose I want more of a saute pan, but one that's not so deep so I can do massive fry up in one pan. The only one I could find that fitted this description was in Boswells for £63! For a pan! WTF?
― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Saturday, 6 January 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― ledge (ledge), Saturday, 6 January 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
37. Vanilla Extract
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link
39. Dentistry
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 6 January 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 6 January 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― === temporary username === (Mark C), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link
Amount I have paid since October: $150. Amount currently due: $100.
Yes, I have learned my lesson, but due to their tardiness in sending tickets it took me until November to figure out my infraction--meanwhile, they are still backlogging October tickets.
― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link
xp mach3 cartridges last a long time, at least 2 months each for me
― a.b. (alanbanana), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 7 January 2007 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ste (Fuzzy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 7 January 2007 06:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Sunday, 7 January 2007 08:03 (seventeen years ago) link
This is so true. It seems to be worse in North America, for some reason.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Sunday, 7 January 2007 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link
getting things framed
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
49. Face moisturizer
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
n/a otm
ikea imo
― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Really, someone please explain the training/tools/technology behind the framing industry that allow them to charge so much. I'm genuinely curious now.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Everything when you're not working.
― not_goodwin, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Birthday cards - a bit of card with a picture printed on it, why is this almost £2?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
50. Y-3 or Lanvin menswear
― This object perpetually attempts to sell itself on eBay. (Stevie D), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
fruit
― aarrissi-a-roni, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Can someone please explain the framing? Genuinely curious about this as well.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.thegrumble.com/archive/index.php/t-11902.html
my favorite is this: "Custom framing is a great buy, compared to your $1,000 computer, which will be worthless in a few months. And you will never enjoy that computer as much as this frame, which will provide decades of enjoyment..."
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I was so shocked by the price of a framing job a few months back that I almost walked out but then I chickened out and paid up anyway. I think about half of their sales are to people who are embarrassed about looking cheap.
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Can someone please explain the framing? Genuinely curious about this as well. --he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0)
I don't know a thing about framing, but any job that requires a person with specialized skills to work on something for an extended period of time will be big bucks.
― Super Cub, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not that hard, tho, is the thing
― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
"decades of enjoyment" = it will hang on a wall and you will not notice it
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
my sister learned how to frame stuff on her own, and does it all herself now
― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
My only experience w framing is with a small local shop in my parents' hometown where all the work is by hand. They have saws/trimmers for angled matt cuts and so on, but there's a person actually handling your artwork, thinking about how best to display it, whether a little more space between the glass and the art is going to affect how close/deep/real it looks or whether less space will preserve the old paper better...I don't even know but I'm pretty sure there's a lot of esoteric & specialized knowledge involved. Plus you want someone w the experience to know how something is going to look BEFORE they custom-size and assemble all the pieces, because you don't want them going back again.
At best, I guess, you're paying for specialized tech and assembly know-how PLUS aesthetic guidance. At worst...I have no idea.
― The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
women's things: haircuts, clothing, dry cleaning
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link