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And it was obvious that Scorsese was going to win when the cabal of old white men directors came out to present the award. They might as well have just started chanting "ONE OF US ONE OF US" instead of reading the card.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Good morning!

"O" alarm clock update:
He broke up with his girlfriend over the phone yesterday. Or rather, she broke up with him. He was very loud about it, shouting defensively, so that I could every word just sitting in the living room. Apparently, he did a very bad thing, which ...you just can't let go, Emily! I've done everything I can to make it up to you.. EVERYTHING. And yet you just keep bringing it up and keep bringing it up... And a while later he started half-crying You are not going to make me cry! Not this time! I won't cry. I won't. Because you think men who cry are weak. But I've only cried in front of you twice. And one time I was drunk! And that was a very emotional time in my life and I was barely scraping by. And I have my act together now and NO, you will not make me cry this time... At that point, it was getting too embarrasing so I had to go back to the bedroom where I couldn't hear the conversation as well.

Then this morning, he rang the alarm at 7am.

In conclusion, he had a girlfriend. Now he doesn't. But happy ending, huh? He can still get off. THE END

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. "he rang the alarm"?

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

JERKED OFF LOUDLY.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

And it was obvious that Scorsese was going to win when the cabal of old white men directors came out to present the award.

As I said on another thread, George Lucas was an odd choice for The Great Triumverate. They kinda made a joke about it -- "He's never won an Oscar" -- but they failed to mention that he's an awful director, and a pretty darn bad writer, too. And he has no chin. Grow a chin, then we'll talk.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. "he rang the alarm"?

I think this only supports the theory that the girlfriend was never present, since she is clearly not integral to this process.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

George Lucas's chin terrifies me even more than his last three Star Wars movies. What is going on there?

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It's like he had it removed.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

And then replaced with raw bread dough.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

What a boring Oscars. At least the part I watched. We turned it off like 2 hours in, which was still before almost all of the major awards. I like Ellen in general but they needed more EXCITEMENT and SPECTACLE. Whenever I see one of these shows I start daydreaming about being nominated for an Oscar or Grammy, winning, but refusing the award. You would instantly be the coolest person ever. Evidence: Marlon Brando and George C. Scott.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, we talked about refusing awards before, didn't we?

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh! The other thing I did not like: Pan's Labyrinth winning over Children of Men in the cinematography category. Pan's Labyrinth was good-looking, no doubt, very slick and polished. But Children of Men was *amazing* looking, this giant feat of cinematography. How could they miss that?

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

A classic exchange.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

1970: Calling the Oscars "a two-hour meat parade," GEORGE C. SCOTT announces that he will refuse the Best Actor award if he wins (for playing WWII general George Patton in Patton). On the big evening, presenter Goldie Hawn rips open the Best Actor envelope and squeals, "Oh my God! The winner is George C. Scott!" True to his word, Scott is home in New York watching a hockey game on TV. He's the first actor ever to refuse an Oscar.

1973: "Hello. My name is Sacheen Littlefeather. I'm Apache and... I'm representing MARLON BRANDO this evening." So says a young woman in Indian garb who takes the microphone after Marlon Brando wins the Best Actor award for The Godfather. Brando, not to be outdone by George C. Scott, has sent Littlefeather to protest the treatment of Native Americans in the movies. The audience reacts with confusion and scattered boos. Actor Clint Eastwood, announcing the Best Picture award moments later, says "I don't know if I should present this award on behalf of all the cowboys shot in John Ford westerns over the years."

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I could make a username on here, or a signature line because I'm feeling like saying to the world, "Arbiter of Toast"

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

Oh, now you're just cutting me down for the sake of doing it. I suppose I have earned this in the past.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

My car got stuck in my driveway this morning, and I don't even HAVE a driveway. I need to buy a damn shovel today.

Some of my bandmembers from Chicago and Mpls got snowed in yesterday so we had a kick-ass Oscar party w/Ian's pizza. Sad that Marky Mark didn't win, glad that Forest did.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Up next: Jenny explains that she actually meant what she said, but in clearer terms; Kenan says something worshipful of her.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Jenny a lot. It's true.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Kenan, I'm not cutting you down for the sake of doing it. I'm responding that way because it irritates the shit out of me when you speak derisively of others for the simple crime of not agreeing with your opinion. OPINION. That means that it's not a truth, no matter how lofty a statement you might make about it.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

My car got stuck in my driveway this morning, and I don't even HAVE a driveway. I need to buy a damn shovel today.

So it snowed so hard that you got a driveway?

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse got the order wrong.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

OMFG!!!

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It's freezing cold in my office and work is really slow again. We're supposed to have pizza today for our boss's birthday but a bunch of people are working from home. I just want to read more of my book.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus, what brought this on? I'm talking about academy voters, ffs! Not you or anyone else I know or even know of. Just a faceless mass of voters that it's ok to disagree with as much as you like, in my book.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I may have backed myself into a corner? Where now anything I speak negatively of will be interpreted as my being unfair and hysterical?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

In defense of Kenan, when you're talking about subjective things like which movie is better, it's a given that any statement made is an opinion. Thus it's not really necessary to couch your statements.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess that's not really what you're talking about though.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, I have a little area behind my garage, but when the plows go through the street they pile up a bunch of snow there. I thought I could get out but nope. A cute girl even stopped and tried to drive while I pushed, which didn't work at all. I had to go borrow a shovel from a dude across the street.

AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE AN OSCAR PARTY CAUSE AN OSCAR PARTY DON'T STOP

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched some of Patton yesterday. The part that sticks out in my memory is when he tells his assistant to post a 24 hour guard on a U.S. cemetary, because otherwise the "damn dirty Arabs" will come and dig up the corpses for their clothes. Then he talks about facing Rommel one-on-one in tanks to decide the outcome of the war.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, it's just the consistent WAY you state opinions: as statements of great (lofty) authority, so strongly stated that they might as well be facts (along the lines of "Feces is NOT for eating"). This is not the same as being confident in your opinion. It comes across like you're the self-appointed arbiter of taste (as I've said before).

― Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, man. Children of Men had some pretty f'in awesome camerawork.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, this kind of thing is very political, too... the reason that movie didn't get more awards is because the studio fell down on the job of campaigning for it, or even marketing it. They were just kinda stumped as to what to do with it. And technical Oscars usually go to movies that are winning all the other oscars, not to movies that are most deserving.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Decent Oscar moments: Tom Hanks actually being pretty funny on the spot ("YES CHRIS, MORE FUN."), Ennio Morricone being cranky Italian dude

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to see Lives of Others now. Word has it that it's really great.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Children of Men should have won more awards I think, but then again I didn't see much of the competition.

The foreign language movie montage made me want to check out all 50.

― KitCat, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I was sad how few of those movies I had seen. Some of them I've seen a dozen times, some I've never even heard of.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, just maybe, maybe the academy had a different opinion than yours, Kenan, and they didn't actually MISS anything.

Guys, I know what you're talking about w/r/t Kenan, but this was still somewhat of a surprise because Children of Men won the Cinematographers' Guild award.

What a boring Oscars. At least the part I watched. We turned it off like 2 hours in, which was still before almost all of the major awards. I like Ellen in general but they needed more EXCITEMENT and SPECTACLE.

Nick in hating the Oscars shocker. It maybe wasn't as memorable as most years, but I thought it was pretty entertaining. One thing I did notice, though, is that Ellen didn't really make jokes based on what had just happened. Maybe there just wasn't enough to make jokes about, like Three 6 Mafia's acceptance speech last year, or Jack Palance's one-handed push-ups.

I want to see Lives of Others now. Word has it that it's really great

It's pretty good, yeah. Kr and I saw it last week.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

One thing that did make the Oscars interesting this year was just how unpredictable it was. Two years ago, I think I had 14/15 in my office pool. This year I had 8/15. I even got half my money back last night for tying for last place among the nine people betting at the party I was at.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

What did you get wrong? The director, best actor & actress, and best supporting actress categories all seemed pretty locked up, and Arkin wasn't that much of a stretch for best supporting actor (veteran actor in a "surprise" nomination). Even The Departed for Best Pic didn't seem that surprising, given that they basically had to give director to Scorcese and Best Director & Best Pic often go together. Were there lots of weird categories in your office pool?

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Wins I wouldn't have predicted: Supporting Actor, Animated Feature, Cinematography, Costumes, Foreign Film, Song, Best Picture, and maybe both Screenplay awards.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still fuzzy on the line between visual effects and art direction. I guess visual effects is a purely technical award, and art direction is more big picture?

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Going back to earlier:

Do you have your account set for the unlimited monthly rides?

No, I have the blue Card, the one that you just add money to when you want. It's so totally not bent, either. Well, no more than any of the other cards in my wallet, which all still work (including the scan card I have for doors at work, very similar to the Chicago Card). Of course now it has ~15 dollars on it and I can't use it. I'm going to their goddamned offices tomorrow to raise hell.

― dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicagoist correctly picked Best Song by showing that Dreamgirls' three nominations would split its vote, and Randy Newman has won a billion times before (I think they said last night he's been nominated 17 times!) and his song on Cars sucks.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

HELLS YEAH

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't disagree with what you said, Kenan. I liked Children of Men just fine and I didn't see Pan's Labrynth so I can't even express an opinion on it. And my Oscar-related opinions are pretty much in line with Nick's (except that I like to see what people wore, it is true). But my issue isn't with the content, it's with the form. We can be takling about, oh I don't know, office supplies or brands of lip balm and I would have responded to you in a similarly exasperated way.

― Jenny, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I called Randy Newman and James Taylor together onstage as a "Summit of Suck."

Julia thought it was funny, anyway.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Randy Newman, I wish he had sung the song instead of Lames Taylor.

― n/a, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny: I will take more care with my lofty accolades in the future. I like Jesse's point that this kind of rhetoric does not convey confidence in my opinions... more like browbeating.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

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