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I forget to talk to my cats sometimes. I got out of the habit because my main cat (the kitten is the auxiliary cat) is half-deaf.

When I do I alternate between "Who's a good little Kitka? YOU'RE a good little Kitka!" and "You sneaky little motherfucker."

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I should probably stop reloading this thread, huh?

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

John! Just in case you read my "that apology doesn't seem very sincere" comment as conveying real disappointment in a perceived lack of sincerity on your part and that made you feel bad and a little more sensitive to off-handed message board comments then usual, I'm sorry. I was 100% joking, because I could totally tell that you WEREN'T sincerely apologizing for not having watched Office Space in seven years, nor did I think you needed to be. I read your comment as funny (in a "Well, excuuuuuuuse me!" kind of way), and responded in a way that I thought was funny (in a deadpan kind of way), so I'm sorry if I ruined anything.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Reload once more!

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, I totally didn't read your comment in that way!

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, good.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It was pretty obvious that my apology was insincere, but I wasn't sure if you knew why it was (i.e., Jesse's ongoing frustration with me).

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, our conference got some press time from WBEZ. They interviewed one of the organizers and ran it in the news on Saturday morning, and they taped the conference and are interviewing two of our speakers tomorrow. Neat-o!

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, yeah, I got the joke! I thought it was pretty funny, actually.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/morganzola/mkaparis.jpg

YIKES.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It took me a second to realize that those weren't Halloween costumes.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

OH ALSO! I watched The Aristocrats last night and I now love Bob Sagget even more than I did before. The fact that he was being a filthy dirty horrible person was great, but the fact that he seemed amazed by his capacity for utter filth was just adorable.

He remains my "Barf or Bone" choice.

HOWEVER - why did Drew Carey get so skinny? That was disappointing.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I would bet that seeing them in person dressed like that would be disorienting because aren't they like four feet tall or something?

I will say, however, that I appreciate their unwillingness to continue to play up the "We are hot twins who might accidentally start fucking any second!" role in which they were regularly cast as minors. You know, like with the joined-at-the-head gross underaged sultry slattern look.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Was he noticeably skinnier, or was it just that he wasn't wearing his thick glasses?

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I ATE A HALF A BAG OF JELLY BELLIES IN CLASS WITH LESLIE TODAY AND NOW I AM CHATTY ON SUGAR AND WHATEVER CHEMICALS ARE IN JELLY BELLIES.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the joined-at-the-head gross underaged sultry slattern look

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Goth Olson twins r freaking me out.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, he wasn't wearing his glass (boo) AND he was noticably slimmer (also boo).

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG John! I saw a discovery or TLC or something special about those girls. It's preeeeeeety kooky.

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually just watched the movie a week ago, since Kr hadn't seen it, and I definitely didn't enjoy it as much the second time around, because I *knew* how horribly filthy it was and I shuddered knowing what was coming.

― jaymc, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

did you get my message???

my voicemail!?

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit, I meant to type that in an IM, but did it here and pressed send.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did you ask me that here when I'm on IM with you?

― Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was funnier the second time knowing what I was in for, but then I was also really, really high.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So in theory I should really be able to get into the Black L1ps, but this new live record is leading me to believe not. The recording sounds rather thin and more like something that you "just had to be there" to appreciate.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I just don't think I would want to live their life! I'm sorry, but NO.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost, obviously.

I'm commenting more on my own attitudes toward life than what the value of their life is. I guess you get used to things, but if I had to choose between being a conjoined twin and death, death would look pretty attractive.

― Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This day. I tell ya what. Two people were laid off in my department. Cutbacks. I make little enough that I can stick around. Still, puts the fear of god in you.

Also, I found out that I apparently owe the gas company close to 600 dollars for gas I wasn't using. Three of the months they were billing me for, the building wasn't even there. A-fucking-mazing. Hell will be raised.

― kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

RAISE HELL.

I just got a gas bill for the first time in...well I think since before I got back from NO. It's only $123.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's 11:30 P.M. Guess what I'm boiling.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Give up??

Well, I'll tell you--I'm boiling collard greens and smoked pork neck bones! (I'm excited, I think after a lot of turmoil (New Orleans, getting settled back in, family stuff), I'm finally getting back into my nesting groove.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, I'm coming over.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

(Ooops. I thought Jenny boiled hers for 1 hour, but Cooks.com say 2 hours. It's gonna be a long, stinky evening. (That's what *he* said, heh, heh.)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, hi Jordan. I didn't see your xpost.

Wanna come over for that long, stinky evening?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had turkey necks but I don't think I've ever had pork necks!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Ever since I read a bunch of Bukowski, "turkey neck" has meant something very special and not literal to me.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

For your discussioning pleasure in the morning:

Marie Antoinette: V. Disappointing.

Could Sofia Coppollaa have withheld action any more? It's very well to make a contemplative, mood-driven movie (e.g., Lost in Translation) but this movie was nigh bloodless! And I mean that in every sense--there was one moment when I thought it might shift gears from Opium-Daze to French-Revolution, but the mob went off only for a minute.

The pace lacked variety; the long shots, clips of dialogue cut short, and sort of negative-space presentation of action or high drama--the storming of the Bastille, Marie and Louis' wedding--all of these grew tiresome for me, especially in light of LiT.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

V. Disappointing?

― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Man that's what I loved about that movie, it was just this long slow burn of a movie. I was too busy eating up the colors and scenery to care about action I guess. I just liked the way that, rather than having her be the center of history, it was sort of just happening on her periphery. Made it more believeable as a story about a girl way out of her element, I thought. I don't know though, I seem to be the only one of my friends that really loved that movie.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I moved it to the top of our queue so Jeff and I can weigh in as soon as the postal service works its magic. I'm going to bet that I'll like it for three reasons: I like the music; I love overblown costume-centric period pieces; I love the French Revolution.

Jesse, is that your review or did you copy/paste that? Because it doesn't sound like you and I didn't think you liked Lost in Translation that much.

I don't know how long I boil collards for. A long fucking time. Another tasty trick is to toss some chicken bullion cubes in there. Salty! (My grandmother made collards over Christmas and they were very salty and flavorful and when I asked her how she made them she said, "Salt pork and seven bullion cubes." Then we all had myocardial infarctions.)

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked it a lot too, and jon pretty much addressed my views on it. I can understand someone viewing it as "actionless," and my main problem with it was the pacing (the end seems really sudden), but I think any problems of the movie were a result of Coppola succeeding at making the movie she wanted to make, if that makes any sense. Basically, her goal was to present the story from Antoinette's view, no matter how isolated and unrealistic her view is, and I think she totally succeeded in doing that and that it was an interesting concept. This may have resulted in some flaws from a full, "cinematic" POV or whatever but I'd rather watch a flawed but fully-realized movie than some "historic" movie that ostensibly presents an objective view but fails at completely presenting any POV at all.

― n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Four reasons: I love reading/watching history from specifical individual POVs, particularly women.

Speaking of women, what is a female equivalent of "bro down." Something that's as catchy but isn't derrogatory. So like not "split tail conspiracy." And "girls night" is kind of insipid. Is it possible in this world of hierarchical gender to come up with a feminine term with all the positive connotations of "bro down"?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, that's kind of funny that you bring that up. My fiancee and her friends were trying to come up with such a term for a bachelorette party they are planning for this weekend. No such luck so far.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

In my mind "bro down" has just as many negative connotations as positive ones. Think of all the douchebag date rapist frat boys who have uttered those words.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ditto. Also, the special features on the dvd were great. You must watch the faux MTV cribs on Versailles, even though it's exactly as you'd imagine it would be.

Also, Jon, I can understand why hearing the Black 1ips live album might not be a great introduction to them. I've only seen them play once, but they were really great and you totally felt like you were a part of it. So, in conclusion, go see them live.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

In fact I can't remember a time in recent history when I've said "bro"-anything un-ironically.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny: I vote for "grill up".

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

even though it's exactly as you'd imagine it would be.

Does Marie A. show us where the magic happens?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Louis XVI does (Jason Schwartzman). He's pretty funny.

Last night's How I Met Your Mother episode was full of bro'-isms.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

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