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Why did you ask me that here when I'm on IM with you?

Jenny, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was funnier the second time knowing what I was in for, but then I was also really, really high.

Jordan, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So in theory I should really be able to get into the Black L1ps, but this new live record is leading me to believe not. The recording sounds rather thin and more like something that you "just had to be there" to appreciate.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I just don't think I would want to live their life! I'm sorry, but NO.

Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost, obviously.

I'm commenting more on my own attitudes toward life than what the value of their life is. I guess you get used to things, but if I had to choose between being a conjoined twin and death, death would look pretty attractive.

Jesse, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This day. I tell ya what. Two people were laid off in my department. Cutbacks. I make little enough that I can stick around. Still, puts the fear of god in you.

Also, I found out that I apparently owe the gas company close to 600 dollars for gas I wasn't using. Three of the months they were billing me for, the building wasn't even there. A-fucking-mazing. Hell will be raised.

kenan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

RAISE HELL.

I just got a gas bill for the first time in...well I think since before I got back from NO. It's only $123.

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's 11:30 P.M. Guess what I'm boiling.

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Give up??

Well, I'll tell you--I'm boiling collard greens and smoked pork neck bones! (I'm excited, I think after a lot of turmoil (New Orleans, getting settled back in, family stuff), I'm finally getting back into my nesting groove.

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, I'm coming over.

Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

(Ooops. I thought Jenny boiled hers for 1 hour, but Cooks.com say 2 hours. It's gonna be a long, stinky evening. (That's what *he* said, heh, heh.)

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

)

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, hi Jordan. I didn't see your xpost.

Wanna come over for that long, stinky evening?

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had turkey necks but I don't think I've ever had pork necks!

Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Ever since I read a bunch of Bukowski, "turkey neck" has meant something very special and not literal to me.

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

For your discussioning pleasure in the morning:

Marie Antoinette: V. Disappointing.

Could Sofia Coppollaa have withheld action any more? It's very well to make a contemplative, mood-driven movie (e.g., Lost in Translation) but this movie was nigh bloodless! And I mean that in every sense--there was one moment when I thought it might shift gears from Opium-Daze to French-Revolution, but the mob went off only for a minute.

The pace lacked variety; the long shots, clips of dialogue cut short, and sort of negative-space presentation of action or high drama--the storming of the Bastille, Marie and Louis' wedding--all of these grew tiresome for me, especially in light of LiT.

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

V. Disappointing?

Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Man that's what I loved about that movie, it was just this long slow burn of a movie. I was too busy eating up the colors and scenery to care about action I guess. I just liked the way that, rather than having her be the center of history, it was sort of just happening on her periphery. Made it more believeable as a story about a girl way out of her element, I thought. I don't know though, I seem to be the only one of my friends that really loved that movie.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I moved it to the top of our queue so Jeff and I can weigh in as soon as the postal service works its magic. I'm going to bet that I'll like it for three reasons: I like the music; I love overblown costume-centric period pieces; I love the French Revolution.

Jesse, is that your review or did you copy/paste that? Because it doesn't sound like you and I didn't think you liked Lost in Translation that much.

I don't know how long I boil collards for. A long fucking time. Another tasty trick is to toss some chicken bullion cubes in there. Salty! (My grandmother made collards over Christmas and they were very salty and flavorful and when I asked her how she made them she said, "Salt pork and seven bullion cubes." Then we all had myocardial infarctions.)

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked it a lot too, and jon pretty much addressed my views on it. I can understand someone viewing it as "actionless," and my main problem with it was the pacing (the end seems really sudden), but I think any problems of the movie were a result of Coppola succeeding at making the movie she wanted to make, if that makes any sense. Basically, her goal was to present the story from Antoinette's view, no matter how isolated and unrealistic her view is, and I think she totally succeeded in doing that and that it was an interesting concept. This may have resulted in some flaws from a full, "cinematic" POV or whatever but I'd rather watch a flawed but fully-realized movie than some "historic" movie that ostensibly presents an objective view but fails at completely presenting any POV at all.

n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Four reasons: I love reading/watching history from specifical individual POVs, particularly women.

Speaking of women, what is a female equivalent of "bro down." Something that's as catchy but isn't derrogatory. So like not "split tail conspiracy." And "girls night" is kind of insipid. Is it possible in this world of hierarchical gender to come up with a feminine term with all the positive connotations of "bro down"?

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, that's kind of funny that you bring that up. My fiancee and her friends were trying to come up with such a term for a bachelorette party they are planning for this weekend. No such luck so far.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

In my mind "bro down" has just as many negative connotations as positive ones. Think of all the douchebag date rapist frat boys who have uttered those words.

dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ditto. Also, the special features on the dvd were great. You must watch the faux MTV cribs on Versailles, even though it's exactly as you'd imagine it would be.

Also, Jon, I can understand why hearing the Black 1ips live album might not be a great introduction to them. I've only seen them play once, but they were really great and you totally felt like you were a part of it. So, in conclusion, go see them live.

KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

In fact I can't remember a time in recent history when I've said "bro"-anything un-ironically.

dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny: I vote for "grill up".

Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

even though it's exactly as you'd imagine it would be.

Does Marie A. show us where the magic happens?

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Louis XVI does (Jason Schwartzman). He's pretty funny.

Last night's How I Met Your Mother episode was full of bro'-isms.

KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Grill up... that's a contender.

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

This lipstick I just put on Olsonizes my face. NO!!!

KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Sofia C's "POV" was of a 21st-century club kid. What a waste.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

But the costumes were pretty, right?

Olsonizes? Do you mean makes you look like a tiny vampire?

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Powder the carpet.

Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Girl Down
Girl Boom
Grill Up

KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Jenny. I look dead, anyway.

KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Sofia C's "POV" was of a 21st-century club kid. What a waste.

I agree with the first half of this statement and disagree with the second.

n/a, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, is that your review or did you copy/paste that? Because it doesn't sound like you and I didn't think you liked Lost in Translation that much.

I don't know how long I boil collards for. A long fucking time. Another tasty trick is to toss some chicken bullion cubes in there. Salty! (My grandmother made collards over Christmas and they were very salty and flavorful and when I asked her how she made them she said, "Salt pork and seven bullion cubes." Then we all had myocardial infarctions.)


1- I wrote it all by myself. And I LOVED Lost in Translation

I love a lot of "slow" movies. LiT, All the Real Girls, Bubble, Elephant. Just not this one.

2- Damn. I knew I was forgetting something. I was going to use some chicken stock as well as the pork necks for extra flavor, but I forgot. I forgot to add more meat to my veg, in the great Southern tradition.

Next time I will use pork necks, turkey necks, AND chicken stock.

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Smoked turkey wings are a good bet, too, and if you have leftovers, you can pick the meat off the wings and then mixed it up with the collards and that is some good shit reheated.

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it possible in this world of hierarchical gender to come up with a feminine term with all the positive connotations of "bro down"?

I believe Kelsey came up with "bitch up".

Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooooh, I like that.

Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I woke up this morning to some dude buzzing everyone in my building asking who had a purple car in the parking lot. He sounded pissed. I ignored it but freaked out for a second wondering if my car could be considered purple.

Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

lol@jesse's examples of slow movies.

Jeff, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Stitching circle.

Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know, that conjures up FGM a little too vividly.

Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm unsure about "bitch up," since it has, if not a negative connotation, a potentially harsh one. That Kit person, in the Lost thread, asked someone if he didn't know someone else who could "bro down" and procure a copy of Wendnesday's episode for him to watch, implying a favor. It's hard to imagine asking someone to "bitch up" and drive you to the airport early in the morning, you know?

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

A slow movie I did not like: Broken Flowers. The long, long shots went beyond contemplative, into boring, and came out the other side. I fell asleep and didn't have the heart to put myself through any more of it, so back in the mail with it.

What I DID like about Marie Antoinette was the way it used punk and rock and '80s elements while still making it a period piece. Unlike Romeo and Juliet, which went whole hog. (Nothing against Romeo and Juliet, I loved that movie.)

Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

bra down

Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard "bro down" before this morning, but it sounds related to "man up"/"cowboy up" (imperative verb kinder than "grow a pair and...[talk to her, call my big bet, etc.]"

Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard it like, "Who wants to bro down and watch football this weekend?" and the aforementioned favor-usage. I've also heard it negatively connotated like Jordan mentioned upthread, but not as often. Nick uses it a lot, I think. Dontcha? Dontcha?

Speaking of our ILX pigeonholes: JOHN! Can you tell me about the popularity, if any, of the name "Kai"?

Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link


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