links would be nice too
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 31 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
recent fire:
Joyce Carol Oates, Personal History, “A Widow’s Story,” The New Yorker, December 13, 2010, p. 70
David Owen, Annals of Environmentalism, “The Efficiency Dilemma,” The New Yorker, December 20, 2010, p. 78
― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
only abstracts are online for nonsubscribers for those i think
Some articles are popular enough to remain accessible to all (e.g. the Packer article on the Senate to which I linked above).
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 December 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link
here's the one abt the koch bros - http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
― just sayin, Friday, 31 December 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link
A thread like this for all (literary/current event) magazines would be pretty cool.
― Mordy, Friday, 31 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Joyce Carol Oates article devastated me.
John Lurie article blew my mind.
― dan selzer, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
dessert article was excellent, thanks for the recc
― Mordy, Saturday, 1 January 2011 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link
so john lurie is insane huh
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 January 2011 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link
The review of the new Mao biographies.
seconded
― I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Saturday, 1 January 2011 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Gopnik's desserts article was like a magazine version of the No Reservations episode in Spain.
― Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Saturday, 1 January 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Which is not meant as a negative at all! They make good companion pieces.
― Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Saturday, 1 January 2011 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link
dessert article was good but gtf outta here w/ this
Finally, the server arrives with the Messi dessert, as Jordi fusses anxiously in the background. He presents half of a soccer ball, covered with artificial grass; the smell of grass perfumes the air. On the “grass” is a kind of delicately balanced, S-shaped, transparent plastic teeter-totter—like a French curve—with three small meringues on it, and a larger white-chocolate soccer ball balancing them on a protruding platform at the very end. A white candy netting lies on the grass near the white-chocolate ball.
Then, with a cat-that-swallowed-the-canary smile, the server puts a small MP3 player with a speaker on the table. He turns it on and nods.
An announcer’s voice, excited and frantic, explodes. Messi is on the move. “Messi turns and spins!” the announcer cries, and the roar of the crowd at the Bernabéu stadium, in Madrid, fills the table. The server nods, eyes intent. At the signal, you eat the first meringue.
“Messi is alone on goal!” the announcer cries. Another nod, you eat the next scented meringue. “Messi shoots!” A third nod, you eat the last meringue, and, as you do, the entire plastic S-curve, now unbalanced, flips up and over, like a spring, and the white-chocolate soccer ball at the end is released and propelled into the air, high above the white-candy netting.
“MESSI! GOOOOOAL!” The announcer’s voice reaches a hysterical peak and, as it does, the white-chocolate soccer ball drops, strikes, and breaks through the candy netting into the goal beneath it, and, as the ball hits the bottom of a little pit below, a fierce jet of passion-fruit cream and powdered mint leaves is released into your mouth, with a trail of small chocolate pop rocks rising in its wake. Then the passion-fruit cream settles, and you eat it all, with the white-chocolate ball, now broken, in bits within it.
You feel . . . something of what Messi must feel: first, the overwhelming presence of the grass beneath his feet (he’s a short player); then the tentative elegance of acquired skill, represented by the stepladder of the perfumed meringues; and, finally, the infantile joy, the childlike release, of scoring, represented by the passion-fruit cream and the candy-store pop rocks. I saw Jordi watching us from the kitchen entrance. He had the anxious-shading-into-delighted look that marks the artist.
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 1 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Would not recommend this one! People have been arguing about Jevon's Paradox for a century now, and the article doesn't really advance any significant new ideas. As a primer on the "debate" around energy efficiency, however, it's alright.
― hot lava hair (Z S), Saturday, 1 January 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/12/13/101213fa_fact_lehrer?currentPage=all
― dayo, Monday, 3 January 2011 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link
^ totally recommend that
― markers, Monday, 3 January 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i read that one the other day, great stuff
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
it was interesting, lol scientists
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 January 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i liked this one, seemed like a great premise for movie: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/11/29/101129fa_fact_collins
― gr8080, Monday, 3 January 2011 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Haven't finished it yet, but I'm digging the Freud, psychiatry, and mental health in China article (subscription needed): http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/10/110110fa_fact_osnos
― Mordy, Monday, 3 January 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
The Patel story was amazing.
― dan selzer, Monday, 3 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah needs a good 3rd act tho.
― gr8080, Monday, 3 January 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
he only contributed a couple of articles this year but i always enjoy atul gawande's stuff: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/02/100802fa_fact_gawande is probably his best piece this year
― they fund ph.d studies, don't they? (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
if anyone subscribes then feel free to webmail me the china/freud article kthx
― max bro'd (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I would, but I can't figure out how to turn it into a pdf or another webmail suitable file.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
just copy and paste the text? or is it a different viewer thing.....no worries if that's the case
― max bro'd (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
the lehrer article is indeed pretty good and supplies ~evidence~ for my distrust of falsificationism and the inability of some ppl to think of scienctific 'knowledge' subjunctively, tho it does show science self-correcting so i don't read it as a total excoriation of the method
The decline effect is troubling because it reminds us how difficult it is to prove anything. We like to pretend that our experiments define the truth for us. But that’s often not the case. Just because an idea is true doesn’t mean it can be proved. And just because an idea can be proved doesn’t mean it’s true. When the experiments are done, we still have to choose what to believe.
The recent one on the Vatican Library was pretty sweet: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/03/110103fa_fact_mendelsohn
I really like Toobin's diptych on JP Stevens and... the other guy.
nakhchivan, FYI, digital subscription gives you access to this weird applet-y, un-C&P text.
― nomar little (Leee), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, and that review of the new biography on Sergei Diaghilev was A+++++++ and really wish it was available to all humans: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2010/09/20/100920crbo_books_acocella
― nomar little (Leee), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link
you can c+p articles from an library institutional subscription, but the evan osnos china thing is from the jan 10 issue which is not on the library wires yet. if you can't get it nakh, bump this thread in a week or two and i'm sure someone from what the fuck am i getting myself into with this grad school stuff will help you out.
― caek, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Lamp, thanks for the Gawande link.
― Kip Squashbeef (pixel farmer), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link
ive been using a friends login for the subscriber stuff for a while and the interface is just so poor i dont usually bother to fuck w/it - seems theyd much rather you read the actual magazine - lol
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link
^agreed. kind of why i started this thread so i knew which actual magazine to pick up and start reading.
― gr8080, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
p interesting follow-up of sorts on the recent duchenne muscular dystrophy activism article -- they just had a spot f/ clay matthews sponsored by cadillac during the orange bowl
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
OK a TA I had in college had a poem published a few issues ago, woah.
― nomar little (Leee), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link
the whole Jan. 11 issue is worth picking up, the aforementioned freud in china article is amazing and hilarious, and it also has decent articles about belgium and why stieg larsson is so fucking popular
― symsymsym, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i know the concept of 'worth picking up' is still valid, even for subscribers, in translating to 'worth retrieving from the well-intentioned pile of unread NYers', BUT in general it's still worth remembering how insanely valuable subscribing to the magazine is when compared to buying a newsstand copy. like forty bucks, for a year, for it to be mailed to your house, which is the cost of like seven newsstand issues.
― schlump, Monday, 10 January 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link
what is the point of an article like this? - http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/01/17/110117ta_talk_surowiecki
surowiecki doesn't have a single interesting thing to say here
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link
He's just summarizing the various memes on this now that are being mentioned in newspapers and blogs without asking anyone where things could go from here--what is the future for unionized government employees, will there ever be more unionized private sector employees, how would this help in regards to the inequality differences that have grown since union membership has declined...)
― curmudgeon, Monday, 10 January 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
His column is like a monthly crib-sheet of conventional wisdom so you can sound like you know what you're talking about when you get invited to a garden party in Stonington
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
what is the point of an article like this?
to summarize and provide some context to a current event or idea its not really about 'saying interesting things' its just a primer? like i know being 1000x smarter than anyone else ever is your thing but i mean the section is called 'talk of the town' so yeah, it exists so the mag's readers can get a vague grip on an issue - the column (which john cassidy also writes some weeks) is supposed to be a gloss? & thats not really all that terrible???
― ⊚ ⓪ ㉧ ☉ ๏ ʘ ◉ ◎ ⓞ Ⓞ (Lamp), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly tracer maybe u wld get more out of the articles u read if u didnt spend all ur energy snarkily coming up w/ reasons why u wld have done it better
― ⊚ ⓪ ㉧ ☉ ๏ ʘ ◉ ◎ ⓞ Ⓞ (Lamp), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
dude there are a zillion interesting things happening with unions at the moment (the biggest of which imo is the belated but hugely important efforts to hook up with undocumented immigrants). i'm not sorry for wanting more out of a column called "the financial page"! this article could have been written at any time in the last 15 years - there is zero content to it!
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll also admit that i am rankled by his terminology - "cadillac health plans" etc - and his conclusion that ultimately the reason that lots of people "resent" unions now is because unions have been successful at negotiating good contracts
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
like, if i want economist-lite i'll read newsweek
snark on that one for size
there is a cover story public sector unions in the economist this week. dunno why i'm bringing it up though because i haven't read it.
― caek, Monday, 10 January 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll be interested in reading that, in an "oppo research" kind of way.
i should probably just recuse myself from talking about surowiecki - everything about his steez rankles me and i'm finding it hard to put into words - the "primer" aspect is part of it, but there are people who write primer-type stuff who i love. i dunno!
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yah i can see finding the article glib and too-neat "The Great Depression invigorated the modern American labor movement. The Great Recession has crippled it" both oversimplifies and maybe misses the point - i was just sort of baffled that you didnt seem to understand why an article like this gets written
― ⊚ ⓪ ㉧ ☉ ๏ ʘ ◉ ◎ ⓞ Ⓞ (Lamp), Monday, 10 January 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess i still don't! the avg new yorker reader could have dictated this article in their sleep 15 years ago
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
so did anyone else read the all of the "20 under 40" pieces? thought it was pretty disappointing. vaguely remember liking one about a guy working on a boat in florida that catches on fire, but not much else.
― Moreno, Monday, 10 January 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
did piers morgan have a special on this recently?
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2024 22:58 (four days ago) link
a bit sad that those who should know better would line up like this to demonize a working-class woman working extra hours in a broken, male-dominated system, but ingrained misogyny and class discrimination runs deep even in the U.K. I guess
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink
That's not my read on boxedjoy's posting at all. I think almost everyone here (and certainly UK posters) can see that class and gender dynamic.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 May 2024 23:02 (four days ago) link
that was a teasing retort to the left field minhaj non-sequitur
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2024 23:05 (four days ago) link
Ok not read it.
I would hope Letby can get a better defence team for the upcoming trial and that some of the defects in the medical evidence as highlighted in the piece might come up.
Beyond that I am amazed at the certainty many of you have of her innocence. This is just one piece that has possibly left things out and highlighted others to fit another narrative.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 May 2024 23:10 (four days ago) link
look I’m a physician, not a lawyer, I’m no legal expert. I know bad medical reasoning when I see it and the medical/statistical evidence in this case is (tragically) laughable. I don’t expect anyone here to be able to grasp that.
I’m mostly poking fun at the (from an american POV) biographical evidence against her that some are defending. and wondering whether that speaks to a pathological addiction to tabloid news and fealty to institutions that is characteristically british
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2024 23:14 (four days ago) link
there's some later replies that I'm still working out my response to - ufo's "guilty til proven innocent" take on my perspective doesn't seem entirely unfair to me - but I'm going to immediately push back on the idea that misogyny is at the heart of this, when narrative reported here was of predominantly male senior managers protecting her from police investigations in the first instance, trying to deal with it internally instead
also, nearly all of my understanding of this has come from the BBC, the Guardian and the independent, and the newspapers in the local area. No news source is perfect but they're not exactly the same as The Sun and Daily Star. Their coverage has mostly* eschewed the Letby personal gossip, with the story being one of how an institution was so weak and underfunded and poorly managed that this happened - not, as is suggested, that the institution itself was infallible
― boxedjoy, Monday, 20 May 2024 23:16 (four days ago) link
i don't have an issue with raising the possibility that the article was cherry-picking things but k3vin is absolutely right about that quoted section of boxedboy's post being 'not serious' and felicity's post seemed pretty tangential to that.
i don't think there is much of an issue with the article leaving out things that it did though - it raises serious questions about the medical evidence that backs up the idea that crimes actually occurred, which is the core of the case and without that everything else isn't evidence of anything much at all. the only thing i can think of that may have been worth addressing is the claim she was seen attacking a baby - that was at least a claim of something more substantial than all the circumstantial evidence that doesn't actually do anything to demonstrate any crimes occurred and can be interpreted however one likes.
― ufo, Monday, 20 May 2024 23:43 (four days ago) link
Beyond that I am amazed at the certainty many of you have of her innocence.
Can't speak for anyone else but I'm not certain about anything. Based on the New Yorker story it sounds like the actual evidence for a crime even having been committed seems a bit thin — and the evidence that this one particular nurse is a serial baby-killer seems even thinner. That doesn't mean she didn't do it, just that I have a hard time seeing a burden of proof having been met.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 00:26 (three days ago) link
My gut feeling remains that she probably did it but that doesn't change the fact that all the evidence is circumstantial and now it seems also pretty problematic. I'm guessing the conviction will eventually be overturned, many years down the track.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 00:42 (three days ago) link
The New Yorker piece, standing alone, appears to be an extremely damning expose for the prosecution and defense. I defer to k3vin k's impressions as a medical practitioner, a field in which I have no expertise.
From a US legal perspective, it's difficult to wrap my head around the idea that the defense did not call its medical expert, or that the defendant might not get even a first appeal as of right. But mine is a US perspective, and to me why the perspectives of those in the UK who have followed the case over a sustained period of time and are bringing up other facts that were not addressed in the New Yorker article are of interest as well.
― felicity, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:14 (three days ago) link
I've read that it's very hard to get UK medical experts to testify in these kinds of cases, following a case where an expert witness got struck off for giving misleading evidence. So sometimes defence teams fly in an expert from the US, but obviously you need money to do that
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:21 (three days ago) link
USA: kinda weird you can’t read this articleU.K.: But she did itUSA: no I don’t care about this case I just mean it’s weird you can’t read this article, censorship etcU.k.: amazed you consider her innocent!
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:24 (three days ago) link
In the US, some of the best experts do not want to offer their expertise at trial because the entire job of the opposing counsel is to tear down the basis of the expert's credibility and for some it is simply not worth the profession hit to their reputation. It's a massive flaw in the adversarial system.
― felicity, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:25 (three days ago) link
xp why not conflate the posts of as many as ten different people into one, that’ll help
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:35 (three days ago) link
i haven't seen a satisfactory explanation from anyone as to why the defence didn't call the medical witness they did have ready, that's one of the most baffling aspects of the whole case.
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:55 (three days ago) link
USA: kinda weird you can’t read this articleU.K.: But she did itUSA: no I don’t care about this case I just mean it’s weird you can’t read this article, censorship etcU.k.: amazed you consider her innocent!― brimstead, Monday, 20 May 2024 9:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― brimstead, Monday, 20 May 2024 9:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol otm
― flopson, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 02:58 (three days ago) link
"i don't think there is much of an issue with the article leaving out things that it did though"
Americans are crying about a miscarriage of justice when they would've executed her by now.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 06:51 (three days ago) link
But at least we would've been able to read a moving, highly literary account about this.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 06:57 (three days ago) link
Tangentially related: Amanda Knox recently wrote this article about a convicted murderer she campaigned on behalf of, who she now believes is guilty
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/jens-soring-amanda-knox-case-wright-report/678255/
― Number None, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 10:11 (three days ago) link
xpost RIP Casey Anthony
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 13:37 (three days ago) link
I just read that telegraph article from about 100 posts ago and it is a truly *fascinating* document lol
― brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 14:06 (three days ago) link
xp - always a lucky one
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 15:51 (three days ago) link
the new yorker is crazy obsessed with england lately … there was that article about the tories, then the baby article, now one about the british museum…
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 16:25 (three days ago) link
i just think it's nice the new yorker is bringing us and uk ilxors together in a good old fashioned clusterfuck, it's been too long!
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 16:27 (three days ago) link
We've had an American talking to Brits about class. That's got to be a first in these clusterfucks!
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 16:37 (three days ago) link
now one about the british museum…
Knew without looking that this had to be by Rebecca Mead. (She lives in London and frequently writes about British cultural stuff.)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 16:50 (three days ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, May 21, 2024 12:37 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
if this is about me, I was “taking the piss” with that post
― brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:22 (three days ago) link
Thought that was the nurse's job.
― felicity, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:39 (three days ago) link
"taking the piss" vs "calculating a p-value"
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:44 (three days ago) link
Rebecca Mead wrote that awful piece about how she hates it when her children read children's books, and that's always coloured my perception of her as a bit of a [raspberry noise] even though lots of her work is just fine
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:07 (three days ago) link
I think that's that.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/24/lucy-letby-loses-attempt-to-appeal-against-baby-convictions
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:30 (three hours ago) link
So, are we allowed to read the article now?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 10:36 (three hours ago) link
Minus side: this is a miscarriage of juatice!
Plus side: flopson has even less of a point now
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:39 (three hours ago) link
The appeal was based on a point of law - something to do with the judge's indtructions to the jury iirc - rather than the evidence. There's still a retrial pending. I would imagine that once the retrial is complete there will be reporting restrictions lifted which will explain more. But this alone isn't the "see America you were wrong" I've already seen it portrayed in some corners as.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:44 (three hours ago) link
She's still going on trial for another murder. I'm wondering if the defence can now bring up some of the problematic stuff mentioned in the NYer article
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:47 (three hours ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Friday, May 24, 2024 6:39 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
in what sense?
― brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 May 2024 11:37 (two hours ago) link
It was a joke on "are we allowed to read the article?" Flopson's trolly point that UK ppl found the blocking to be 'good' was a nuisance given that the wall was easy enough to bypass, for one.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 11:56 (two hours ago) link