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What's up, Chinamen?

Hey, did you know it's March 6th? And did you know that in Chicago, that means Jeniffer Hudson Day?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

aw Jennifer Hudson

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Update on the US Bank sign: apparently they let their employees take turns putting whatever they want on the front sign. When Osama's turn came, he decided on "walk like an egyptian." Perfectly reasonable.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, how about: What the FUCK is up with cyclists being dirty? You're in a job that can result in intense perspiration, so the way to deal with that is to just give up and not bathe? Then stink up my dinner at the Handlebar?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

They have an employee named Osama? That's gotta present some challenges.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I work with a dude named Osama. I feel guilty for doubting the motivations behind their weird signage.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a salon in HP called Ossama's Hair Design. I think it's at like Hyde Park Blvd and Cornell.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, there used to be one on the west side as well, i can't remember if it was damen or ashland or halsted but it was just off van buren and you could see it from 290. it did not fare well in this crazy post 9/11 world.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Ossama's Hair Design was at the corner of State and Randolph, next to the Chicago Theater and above a Walgreens, before that building got torn down.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Hair == teh dull

I need a cut. What should I do? I think I have had the same cut pretty much my entire life.

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Dye it? No, don't do that.

That's what you get when you already have the perfect hairstyle, Dan.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

There's an Osama Hair Design on Dearborn, south of Jackson.

Speaking of gross things bike messengers do, I saw a dude MOUNTAIN BLOW all over the sidewalk in front of me and I was like, "Whoa, dude, gross" and then I saw the Chrome bag and then I realized he had just locked up a bike and I was like "Ohhhhh... bike messenger" and I was no longer surprised or particularly offended since, you know, they are filthy vegans, generally.

Julia, you should rant MORE, just generally.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, have you READ this thread?

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: there's a kind of vegan that doesn't wear WOOL??

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow."

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the sandman is sending me a special gift
a sleepy dream memory of our first kiss
cast a shadow in my direction
cast a shadow in my dierction

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that if you have a haircut that works for you, you should just stick with it. I will probably keep this hairstyle forever since it's the only one I've ever had taht looks better the longer I go between haircuts.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

of all the millions and millions of things i think about, from the life-altering to the trivial, what my hair looks like is rarely, if ever, one of them.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

OBV! :D

― dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

it's 10 past 5 and it's still light out. not too shabby.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah! That's cool. I noticed that yesterday, I think. Of course it's also 23 degrees out but whatever. I'll take what I can get.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

: (

later this week, 40s. i saw on the 10 day that there's supposed to be a 50 degree day soon.
plus, as mentioned upthread, I SAW MY FIRST ROBIN OF THE SPRING!

things are gonna get better from here on out, i can feel it.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Peace Chicago, don't hate.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

later stretch.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope it never goes above 74 all summer.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh, I've always heard the "mountain blow" called the "farmer's blow".

― Eazy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG, I just got invited to a wedding.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: there's a kind of vegan that doesn't wear WOOL??

yup.

Veganism, as defined by the Vegan Society, is "a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."

(that's from wiki)

i was kind of stunned to learn that not only do vegans stay away from dairy and eggs, they don't eat honey (OH THINK OF THE BEES OMG), and don't wear any sort of leather or wool or anything that has ever come from an animal. there was a new york times article on how veganism is becoming trendy, talking about expensive "vegan purses" and "vegan shoes". it went on and on about blahblah eco-consciousness when VEGAN SHOES ARE ACTUALLY WORSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT WTF. polyurethane and PVC and the like--not so earth-friendly. i suppose if you wear nothing but cotton sneakers, that's one thing, but there's all this fake leather bullshit that will never biodegrade and is a bitch to the environment to produce...and that's what's the supposedly ethical choice?

i'm all for consideration of animal rights, but people should use their brains when they're trying to make social statements through consumer choices. srsly.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i have a couple of vegan cookbooks because my roommate's close friend (an avid cook and recommender of cookbooks) is a vegan. (there was bacon in the fridge when she last visited, which she kept commenting on. i was amused.)

there's some decent stuff in the cookbooks, when they're not using weirdass mystery ingredients and promoting fake meats. some really good food is naturally vegan. hummus, for example. i love me some hummus.

but i got to reading the beginning of one of the cookbooks one day, looking for some sort of conversion or something--and instead of helpful info, there was all this proselytizing about IDEALS. it went on and on about how it was sometimes difficult to stick to veganism, but think of the social importance of how you're eating and living and blahblah.

but i have a serious problem with people buying vegan shoes and refusing to wear wool and thinking they're making a difference in the world.

and honey! i love honey! i do not worry about the suffering of the bees! though eschewing honey doesn't do any harm, i suppose. so it's mainly the shoes.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I still think it's mainly a fashion statement: MORE VEGAN THAN U, just like any number of "countercultural" ethea. I've known several vegans in my life, and all of them were in it because of either peer pressure (i.e. being cool) or serious body issues (quote: "I'd rather have cancer than be fat" -- yeah, that has nothing to do with veganism).

I think a lot of the ideas are sound but like everything good, once people make it a lifestyle a lot of that becomes secondary.

Also, I like to eat flesh. Gotta use these pointy teeth for something.

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm trying really hard to find the fake "how to be emo" page some friends of mine made a few years ago. Choice quote: "Don't be vegan because you care about animals. Be vegan to be cool."

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i can understand the serious body issues thing: people with such issues commonly like to be in strict control over things, and having a diet that requires lots of adaptations and restrictions lends a rigidity to what/how you can eat.

veganism in itself doesn't necessarily promote losing weight/being thin, though. the vegan i know is at least 5 or 6 sizes bigger than my bacon-eating self.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Not wearing wool or leather or consuming honey are pretty much basic tenets of veganism, so I don't know why that's much of a surprise. Maybe I've just known a lot of people with copies of Diet for a New America on their bookshelf or something.

That said, while I think there are a lot of advantages to a strict vegan lifestyle, and admire those who are able to pull it off with grace and happiness, I'm more likely to espouse a philosophy of "do what you can." Ultimately, I'd like to wear shoes that aren't made from animal products, but it's so hard for me to find non-vegan shoes that fit me that it doesn't seem worth the effort. And while I have absolutely no desire to eat meat and am perfectly content without it, giving up cheese would definitely make me sad. So I do what I can.

Some people probably think that I'm a bad vegetarian (esp. now that I eat seafood every once in a while), but I have a feeling that the emphasis on purity that you hear from some animal-rights activists has the potential to send someone in the opposite direction, if they find themselves unable to adhere to the lifestyle 100%. Again, if you can make it work for you, then that's awesome, but for a lot of people, I think it's spiritually healthier to embrace moderation.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

giving up cheese would definitely make me sad.

AMEN.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

holy crap julia is POSTING. Like, in earnest! I love you, julia.

Shut up, john.

Did you get the ysi I sent?

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, once in a while i get all crazy and actually say something.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link

we like it. keep it up.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, I did get the YSI, but I can't open .rar files. :(

Don't worry about it.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

damnit, you can open rar files if you try. they're not secret or anything.

http://www.unrarx.com/

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

but if you like, i'll zip it. :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh cool, that worked!

I downloaded some similar program a while ago and couldn't figure it out, so I thought .rars were a lost cause for me.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

nope

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm seeing a doctor who might want me to give up cheese at some point because of something with digestion and wtf and i don't know. the concept scares me, but i'd do it temporarily if it would really impact my health. i think. i kind of doubt that it would make that big of a difference, though. i dunno.

i had the most beautiful sharp white cheddar in my fridge, really potent stuff, which is now all gone and eaten. how can i give up flavor like that? cheese is such an incredible foodstuff.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i really do miss xposts.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a good thing I haven't emptied out the trash on my desktop, too, because I have albums by Of Montreal, The Shins, and Peter Bjorn + John in .rar format that I downloaded just to see if they'd work. They didn't, but they will now.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

YAY!

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

julia, i got you cheese instead of chocolate for valentines day, because you can't eat chocolate, and whatevs, because cheese is better anyway. But if you stop eating cheese... OH NOES. What's next, you won't eat bacon??? This is insanity.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that really was some serious cheddar, wasn't it?

treasure island, ppl.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

it was AWESOME.

i don't know about stopping with eating cheese altogether. i don't know if it's humanly possible for me.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

(and cheese for valentine's day was totally better than chocolate)

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

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