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no, Tep's right in the sense that cold is more directly painful than heat, but cold is a lot less dangerous - but one football season spent travelling fm blistering heat to blistering cold in the same woolen uniform with a metal instrument over your shoulder playing 'Rocky Top' over 20 times + assorted other fun tunes - heat can hurt just as bad. I'm not a fan of any extremes.

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:48 (twenty years ago) link

When it's ten below you at least get a new white landscape, which has its charms. Heat is just hot. And besides, in the cold you can layer, you can wear a parka, you can buy silk thermal underwear, whtever it takes. In the heat, you can't get naked, and it wouldn't help if you could.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

Bad thing about the South -- hardly ever a justifiable reason to wear a big soft cable-knit sweater.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

Millar, you were... I'm going to have to guess... a Civil War soldier who carried his banjo to entertain the troops?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

At football games?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

Yes that's exactly it, Kenan.

Unsurprisingly, I like the cold and the snow.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

exactly, except it was a sousaphone

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

Carpetbagger.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

Oh! Band! I see!

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

No. Millar is really Bob Log III.

― Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i can't stand the NYC heat, i stay indoors all nice and air conditioned. how the hell would i be able to tolerate the Walls of Heat down south?

and i like winter and the cold, thankee much. it's the slavic blood, see.

― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

Racists.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

we prefer the term "bigots"

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously, the heat is all well and good and all, right, but like v. surprisingly I prefer wearing turtlenecks and coats and jeans.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

I always think that until summer rolls around and I'm like WHOO shorts and T-shirts who gives a fuck.

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

I'm with Tep. It's a southern thing. I'll take heat over cold anyday. That said I nearly died on the drive home today. (Did I mention how my boy passed out driving the other day via heatstroke?) Sitting at lights I was thinking "if this light doesn't change I'm going to run out screaming into the middle of the street just to generate a breeze." By the time I got the keys sitting in my ignition were too hot too touch, just from the sun coming through the windshield.

Luna I dub thee southern.

I love how this thread is almost all about food. I'll introduce the best thing though:

COUNTRY MUSIC!

yee haw.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

I refuse to wear shorts outside of the gym or my house.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

Me too honey.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

I would never wear shorts if I could avoid it. My legs are like sasquatch.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

i don't tan, i burn. ergo, shorts and guinea teas are out.

― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

Millar were you in the UT band?!!!

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link

you are insane. Ten minutes of ten below is not nearly as bad as hours of New Orleans heat.

Chicago residents to thread!!!

Oh, wait, they're all outside, enjoying day 25 of our 45 day pseudosummer ... 9 months of miserably-frigid-to-tolerable-but-depressing-cold-and-damp weather is much worse than several months of brain-baking heat ...

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

No shit, that's why everybody, you know, moves away from here. However, I've come to the conclusion that extreme cold and extreme heat BOTH SUCK EQUALLY.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:16 (twenty years ago) link

I think they might. Ask me after this winter. Personally, I don't mind cold, and don't find it one bit depressing. And frankly, I'm looking for solid REASONS to never go outside, instead of just weak excuses.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

i like this bourbon better, millar:

http://www.cocktailtimes.com/tasting/bottle/woodford.jpg

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:29 (twenty years ago) link

Well, it may just be that I'm a reaaally skinny guy; extreme cold is just literally more dangerous, oppressive, joy-corroding to me ... heat'll drive me crazy (or is that the humidity, har har) but doesn't make me hate life ... and yeah, I've got waaaay too many excuses to stay inside as it is ...

But how cold are we talking about, anyway? Like gulf stream or otherwise coastally mitigated cold, or wind-whipped no-sun-for-five-months barren-midwestern-plain cold?

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

The latter.

Which is why you need this:
http://64.95.118.51/images/opti/6e/1b/fddkSpiritsBy_NameAllKnob_Creek_Kentucky_Straight_Bourbon_Whiskey-resized200.gif

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

Ah! I knew it wasn't my fault!

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

Southern girls make you feel at home; people are friendly; we send thank-you notes and wonder if you are feeling all right; we actually care about other people and it shows. We cook; we bake; we make you smile. We want to love you. Have a Co-Cola.
--Orbit of rural southeastern North Carolina

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 03:54 (twenty years ago) link

(crying)

I want to touch people!

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

Southern girls make you feel at home; people are friendly; we send thank-you notes and wonder if you are feeling all right; we actually care about other people and it shows.

Sure ... but on some occasions, though, I've found 'southern hospitality' much more venomous by way of condescension + insincerity than good old fashioned northern fuck-off gruffness ...

(Isolated occasions, please understand; I totally see what you're saying, but sometimes the thinking strikes me as about as wishful as how 'plainspokenly friendly' and 'down to earth' Chicagoans get blanketly designated)

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 04:08 (twenty years ago) link

I want to touch people!
Don't give me no lines and keep your hand to yourself!

, I've found 'southern hospitality' much more venomous by way of condescension + insincerity
I've found that this is often the hearer interpreting it through their own lens where the speaker is being perfectly sincere. The hearer isn't acculturated so assumes what they are hearing is bullshit, according to how such speech would be interpreting in their own regional culture.
imho.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 04:12 (twenty years ago) link

I want to touch you all.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

Hussy.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:01 (twenty years ago) link

MIKEY'S CLASSIC THINGS ABOUT THE SOUF

1). GRAVEYARDS! RIGHT BY THE ROADSIDE!

2). CIVIL WAR BATTLEFIELDS! WITH CANNONS(Forgive me, I'm a history teacher!

3). BIG ASS GLASSES OF SWEET TEA!

4). RELATIVE EASE OF ACCESS TO LIQUOR, FIREWORKS, LIQUOR AND FIREARMS!

5). PIGGLY WIGGLY!

6). TAKING A WEEK TO TELL A STRANGER THE TIME!

― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:11 (twenty years ago) link

4). RELATIVE EASE OF ACCESS TO LIQUOR, FIREWORKS, LIQUOR AND FIREARMS!

You forgot liquor!

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:16 (twenty years ago) link

1). GRAVEYARDS! RIGHT BY THE ROADSIDE!

Is this unusual? Where else would they be?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:17 (twenty years ago) link

is that unusual? I'm gaping with horror at the north again

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

Piggly Wiggly rules, hoss.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:20 (twenty years ago) link

Randalls and H-E-B ran them out of these parts. But I remember them from when I was a kid. Such a happy little pig on their sign! You could just imagine how he would wiggle!

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:21 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, sadly, the past couple of decades have seen the decline of nearly all Affiliated Food Stores. Of which PW was one. There are still a couple in the hood I teach in but they are few and far betwee these days.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:24 (twenty years ago) link

few and far betwee

Ha! I like that. Like they're far apart, and excessively cute.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

ah fuck off. i'm kinda tipsy and have to be at school in 6 hrs!

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:28 (twenty years ago) link

I know! You didn't actually think I was making fun of your spelling, did you? This is me we're talking about.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:33 (twenty years ago) link

Our electricity stays on!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:48 (twenty years ago) link

I love H-E-B. Especially on a Saturday night, if I can get to go there and do my grocery shopping on a Saturday night. Their music system plays the most amazing mix of '80s songs and it's so wonderfully exciting shopping to, for example, the Human League's "The Lebanon" or Joboxer's "Just Got Lucky". It delights me to no end.

One truly great thing about the South is that the following people are/were Southerners:

Martin Luther King, Jr. (and his widow, Coretta Scott King)
Medgar and Charles Evers
Tennessee Williams
James Earl Jones
Oprah Winfrey
George Clooney (if you can count KY as the South)
Ron Howard
Will Rogers
Maya Angelou
Leontyne Price
Ray Charles
Otis Redding
Janis Joplin
Buddy Holly

... and I just found out through searching online that one of the few MTV personalities I actually really like still to this day, Tabitha Soren, WAS BORN IN SAN ANTONIO! YES!

― Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 05:53 (twenty years ago) link

The hearer isn't acculturated so assumes what they are hearing is bullshit

"Your head is full of their language / There's wisdom there you're sure"

(I wondered if this weren't the case.)

― jackson anderville, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 06:11 (twenty years ago) link

I've found that this is often the hearer interpreting it through their own lens where the speaker is being perfectly sincere.

Maybe, but most people can hear sincerety or the lack thereof through any accent or cultural habits the speaker may have. If Brian says he has encountered rude and slightly sinister Southerners, I see no reason to doubt him. So have I.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 06:16 (twenty years ago) link

gentility can certainly be weaponized, like anything else ...

― jackson anderville, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 06:24 (twenty years ago) link

George W. Bush to thread.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 06:28 (twenty years ago) link

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