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CHICAGO: Meat Renaissance.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It would make a logical follow-up to "Beef, Love and Understanding."

Chicago, give me one good reason why I should go to class today instead of going home and studying for the MPRE and possibly doing some laundry?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

because the sidewalks are covered in snow and everyone seems disagreeable today and it's still that soul-crushing grey wasteland and.... i got nothing. stay home.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin's reasons sound OTM and good enough for me. Too bad I've already left the house.

Anyone else have problems with artwork randomly not showing up for songs on their iPod? I've searched all the forums and all the answers revolve around unchecking the album art option and rechecking it again, but mine keeps getting errors when I recheck it again. So now I have cover art for like, 1/32nd, of the songs on there.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i only have artwork for the two songs i bought from itunes and they always show up.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I did mad laundry yesterday. It was satisfying. Clean undies + clean sheets + cat-hair-free duvet cover (for about a minute) + clean fluffy towels + clean socks. All these things are awesome things.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, I love that feeling.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty meticulous about the cover art for all the albums I have, but then, when I think about it, why? It's just one more little administrative duty concerning my music files. I am starting to think that administrative duties concerning your music files are for big nerds.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

considering my ipod is in my jacket pocket 98% of the time i don't care what's being displayed on the screen.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

this is why i always imagine cows as having little hitler moustaches. it makes the steak taste that much better.

Deserves to be repeated, in italics.

I tried being a vegetarian once. It lasted for about 3 weeks. I love meat, and I while I've grown soft, I could probably slaughter my own animals, though I would probably have a hard time with a duck (but not a chicken so much). This is probably because my dad was a farmer and we always had animals around that we were killing and eating (chix and sheep anyway).

I sort of do what Amanda does--I eat and enjoy meat, but I love non-meat as well, so I will often order or cook non-meat options. Plus part of the time I buy free-range meat, and it is a goal to do so more often.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly.

Ok, you know why I do it? For the screensaver on my desktop. You can set it up to display all the artwork in your iTunes library, tiled. And the tiles flip around and change one at a time, randomly. It's hypnotizing. I look at it and go, "Man, I'm so cool."

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

uh, xpost

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I only got an iPod that can display covers last week, but like Kevin I never look at it anyway.

I fired up Slsk this morning for the first time in, like, a year. It was kind of nostalgic.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, I only fire up slsk for single tracks, and on special occasions. Like the other day, when I suddenly HAD to have the theme to The Third Man.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Let me tell you about my dream. I was living in the town Freddy Kreuger lived in, but we were kind of friends, but YOU HAVE TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT FUCKER! Anyway, there was a guy in the town who was known for being a womanizer and beating his wife, so we got Freddy to hang out with him. We thought he'd kill him, but instead he either invaded his body or he followed him around anywhere, because when he was at work as a cashier he stood very still and spoke in a monotone.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

fascinating.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, dream journal.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep getting exciting messages about people that want to be my Myspace friend, and then I find out it's just another wild young college girl. WILD YOUNG COLLEGE GIRLS, LEAVE ME BE.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

This last one had a picture of her sitting on the toilet. I did not need that. No one ever needs that.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, "college" girls.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

They are in college! And they are wild! And young! And apparently they use the toilet from time to time! It's fucking amazing!

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I got one the other day that was just a picture of an ass. That's all, just an ass.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i just get spam from "girls" and their spartan profiles usually include a link to their "photos". i have never once clicked one of those links but i'm willing to bet i'd need a credit card to see anything interesting.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

you're ahead of the game. You are one click up on me.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost always report friend requests from people I don't know as spam. Fuck that shit. Myspace is annoying enough on its own.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Hum's "Why I Like the Robins" just came up on shuffle. YESSSsssssss...

Hi peeps

― dan m, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes I get friend requests from strangers that are record labels or something like that. Those I don't mind.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa. Hum. I haven't thought about that band in forevs.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i just fucked up my netflix queue and now i'm getting easy money instead of we jam econo in time for the weekend. though i suppose if i blow through a dvd tonight (unlikely with it being lost night and all) i could get the first disc of the two in time for saturday viewing. assuming my mail carrier decides on delivering mail this weekend.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

For a while we had a myspace friend named "Luna" who would post animated gifs of her slapping her thong-clad ass as comments. I just assumed that this was ILX's Luna, which is why I felt bad about blocking her comments. Then we figured out it was just some random myspacer, so now I just ignore her comments.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm used to requests from people I don't know through the band myspace, but the hot girl ones are almost always spam.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have the "block requests from bands" thing turned on (though i'm tempted sometimes) but i would say about 95% of band requests are denied. and 95% is probably conservative. there are a whole lot of really bad, popular bands in chicago. apparently.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha there is a setting for that?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So is there something going on at Ice Factory on Sat. night? Eric hinted at something but then didn't reply to my email, and the IF website is even more fucked up than usual right now.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Eric Z and Canasta are playing with one other band.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Walk In/Rock Out: Canasta, Teddy Edwards(of The Music Lovers)& Eric Ziegenhagen
Saturday March 10th
We welcome back local orchestral pop group Canasta along with touring act Teddy Edwards. Eric Ziegenhagen opens up the night with his intimate lap guitar storytelling from the NW side of Chicago.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

intimate lap guitar storytelling

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

It's another acoustic dude, I believe. It's sort of last minute, but you should all come, it should be fun. It's also a benefit for the Chicago Underground Library

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

intimate lap ~~guitar~~ storytelling

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

(fixed)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The last two Netflix movies I've gotten in the mail have had the packages ripped open, in a fairly obvious way that makes me think our mail carrier (or someone else) was hoping to steal the good ones. Apparently Brick and Half Nelson weren't up to his/her standards. Does make me nervous to know that someone might steal one of these at some point. This is exactly why I never have stuff shipped to my home address.

Our mail carrier is atrociously bad, among other things s/he has done:

Routinely shoves all of our building's mail into whichever box is most convenient that day (usually ours), so I spend a couple minutes every day sorting all the mail for our building.

At least one or two pieces of mail everyday is for our same street number on either of the two streets surrounding ours.

Pretty much a constant stream of mail meant for the neighboring buildings.

Any packages too large for the mailboxes gets thrown on the ground, had to dig a box of books out the snow last week.

It's seriously the worst "service" ever. Complaining to the postmaster has only made it worse, so I guess its time to just deal. Is this fairly common though?

[/rant]

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The mail in Chicago in general is AWFUL. I have had endless trouble with them. And complaining does make it worse -- you're lucky you're still getting mail at all.

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

HAY GUISE yesterday in class Prof. Hummingbird talked a lot about breast feeding and pumping breast milk except she would stammer badly whenever she tried to say "breast" and she kept flitting around at the front of the room and we talked about breast feeding for a good fifteen minutes and given that I have never heard anybody speak openly about the challenges that working women face if they want to breast feed children, it was possibly the greatest lawschool moment I have witnessed. It would been less great if it wasn't Prof Hummingbird flitting and stammering her way through it, though.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

When my friends Karen and Andrew got married, they put their home address as the mailing address and the return address on their RSVP envelopes. They got about ten of those back stamped return to sender, no such address. It was the same address!!!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the class???

― Jordan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Prof. Hummingbird also invited me out for a beer again. Wheee!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

It wouldn't be such a big deal if I didn't have to make a weekly trip to the post office to return all the mail meant for other buildings, but the mail carrier flat out refuses to take anything back with them.

Anyway, enough bitching for today. Really I'm in a good mood.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I will most likely come to the IF show on Saturday night.
I would like to encourage people to come see the FFs NEXT Friday (the 16th) at Beat Kitchen if they feel like it. It's for purely selfish reasons, I hate playing at Beat Kitchen when it's empty. So I want it to be PACKED.

― n/a, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

My initial reasons for turning vegetarian are similar to Sarah's in that my sophomore year of college I had a bunch of vegetarian friends. My roommate was vegan, and on the other side of the dorm basement we lived in was the Veggie Co-op, which was two suites of girls who were all vegetarian and thus were given access to a kitchen. My roommate's girlfriend lived there, as did my several other female friends, including Kelsey.

So I was used to hearing the usual arguments about why it was a good idea to not eat meat (from animal rights to environmental concerns), and over the following summer, I began to flirt with the idea myself. I was never the kind of dude who relished a huge steak or pork chop, I was just accustomed to the conveniences of having meat as part of my diet. So I thought maybe it won't be that hard. I was studying in the UK that fall, and I made a spontaneous decision on the plane that I was going to try it out. (The last piece of meat I knowingly ate was a Philly cheesesteak at the Philadelphia airport). The fact that I was making all sorts of other adjustments in my life by living in another country and cooking for myself for the first time meant that it was a little bit easier to make that kind of change.

Anyway, it was totally fine. The idea of cooking with raw meat always grossed me out, anyway, so I was happy not to have to deal with that. And because the UK had just gone through the mad-cow scare, it had become a very vegetarian-friendly place to live -- lots of green V's on frozen-food packages and on restaurant menus.

But I did initially struggle with the philosophical justification for what I had done. Eventually, I happened upon this: that while there was no single reason (like animal rights) that I felt passionate about, there seemed to be, from an objective perspective, more good reasons for humans to not eat meat than to eat meat.

A year or two later, as I learned more and had discussions with vegetarian friends, I became more specifically invested in animal rights and environmental arguments, although I was never preachy about it, and as I've often mentioned, these days my vegetarianism is mostly just out of habit and preference.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

can we not talk about vegetarianism? Ever again?

― kenan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

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