There are some great anecdotes about him supposedly being on a diet, but he'd sneak to the edge of his property at night and his next door neighbor, Jack Nicholson, would throw a bag of cheeseburgers over.\
lol - love this
― ENBB, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
"Actually, he was notorious for loving cheeseburgers."
Ding!
A friend lived down the street from Christian Brando in Studio City says Brando used to slip his handlers, buy a dozen burgers and sit in his car down the street, gorging.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I know those photos are real, but somehow, they still look like those weird Photoshopped creations designers make for ppt presentations to solicit funding for the new stadium.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
http://blog.kierantimberlake.com/wp-content/uploads/interior-view-at-concourse-looking-south_existing.jpg
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, my favorite photo of the man himself:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2q0ojmt.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Larger version and explanation here
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
tomatoes totally feel pain
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Murderer.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
those pics are wiiiiiild
― goole, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
so wait, those superpower pics above *aren't* just photoshoppy computer generated representations? they do not look real to me.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the hallway one looked like a real photo but yeah the others are definitely computer generated
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
My mistake. Thanks for suppressing my progress.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
glad we could "clear" that up
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
KSW guys
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
dunno if this has been covered already midthread, but the Haggis/Wright/St. Petersburg Times exposés (devastating though they are) are not quite as o_O as 'Operation Freakout' & what happened to Paulette Cooper in the 70s:
http://www.lermanet.com/paulette-cooper/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
― beer, beer, beer (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i think this NYer story is important because it puts a mainstream-elite stamp of approval on public distrust and disapproval of scientology. generally this has been confined to south park style parody plus committed internet-based activism and documentation. plus there has been a serious climate of fear around them, right? like atul gawande on healthcare or jane mayer on cheney, now "everyone" can say, boy, kind of problem here, even though all the details were in plain sight.
― goole, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it does feel especially weighty because of that. i also like that it doesn't hesitate to criticize some of the more OTT anti-Scieno sentiment too.
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Waiiit this is what Mormons say about their church! How many religions used alleged exponential functions as a sales point?
Temple of Underrated Aerosmith has 3x more chill vibes & good times than all other religions iirc
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Brought back by Catholic bones, I see. Welcome.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
no I came back to find out how Tuomas feels about suggest ban but now they've locked the thread so I'm feeling kind of adrift, can't live like this tbqf
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
lol hope you find harbor
― end aggro business now (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I had to stop reading this mid-article to do some other reading up, after that throwaway sentence about Miscavige's wife not having been seen in two years.
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Temple of Underrated Aerosmith
would join this church
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure how reliable this is, but interesting nonetheless:
http://leavingscientology.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/david-miscavige-“the-adulterer”/
― Darin, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I link on that page leads to this:
She lamented how he would sometimes walk around mumbling, then periodically shouting, “Shelly, where is the gold buried?” She swore she had no idea what gold DM was referring to.
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah that's the bit I really wonder about.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
If you really want to dig around, you'll find conspiracy theories that she's the natural mother of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman's adopted daughter.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
missed ya underrated aerosmith
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Of all of the media on this page:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/multimedia.html
This was always my favorite:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Helatrob.mp3
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Or this one, where LRH predicts the coming of Mad Men:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Nochrist.mp3
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
This is full of interesting stuff, including an apparent quote from Hubbard: "When buildings get important to us, for God’s sake, some of you born revolutionists, will you please blow up central headquarters.”
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
so what will the church do now? maybe i overestimate the importance of the new yorker as opposed to the st. pete times, but this seems like kind of a big deal?
i guess standard procedure is to sue the shit out of conde nast, but between the new yorker's fact checkers and conde's lawyers no doubt having already picked it apart, that seems only slightly more feasible than dan snyder's lawsuit . . .
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Well the FBI is already investigating so...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
It doesn't say the FBI is actively investigating, does it? Just that the investigation is still open. Maybe that's splitting hairs. But I imagine there are hundreds of "open" investigations the FBI hasn't bothered with in years. Can't imagine this particular pile of crazy-pants is a priority.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Skimmed this thread (and I forgot I gave that St. Petersburgh Times piece upthread -- good reading, but did anyone link to the RollingStone article that came out about five years ago? One of my favorite RS articles ever (I'm sure it's old news to most, but maybe not to all):
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/inside-scientology-20110208
― musicfanatic, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
And again, it's worth reposting that St. Pete Times series of articles for those who haven't read them:
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/
― musicfanatic, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Woah 26 page article.
Normally I wouldn't feel like printing out an article to read on the way home was an abuse of office equipment, but this one took 48 sheets of paper. I punched holes in it and put it in a binder.
It's been said on this thread much before, but this is a fantastic article, and everyone should read it.
― I am Woolen Man. The scarf and I are one. (kenan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
can someone link to it again? i'm too lazy to go into the 400+ other messages
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Suck it up.
― I am Woolen Man. The scarf and I are one. (kenan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Or friend me on Facebook. It's on my profile recently.
what a sassmaster.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright
― Groovy Goulet (pixel farmer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, I'd have had to look it up, too! Or reload the whole thread. I'm not going to do it just because he doesn't want to. That's free labor.
― I am Woolen Man. The scarf and I are one. (kenan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
― polyphonic, woensdag 9 februari 2011 21:39 (Yesterday) Bookmark
And because of that he put Elisabeth 'Peggy Olson' Moss in there? ;_;
(yes, only just now found out, rip etc.)
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry kenan, didn't mean to make you cry
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I read the whole thing and enjoyed it but sorta amazed I could read so much and not feel like I'd learned anything new. Maybe just read too many of these by now.
― iatee, Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, I feel that its main function is to lend further credence & exposure to what was already unearthed by the St. Petersburg Times piece(s). Absolutely nothing wrong w/ that though - very well written & assembled. The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.
― beer, beer, beer (Pillbox), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/10/scientology_friends_dc
greta van susteren? say it ain't so
― goole, Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
she hid it and someone revealed it when she left cnn
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.
Definitely. The piece was well-edited with a nice big climax at the end. I think CoS's meeting with the New Yorker people was an uncharacteristically bad move for them, but the whole thing seems like a chess match where they're down to their last few moves and are hoping for stalemate at best.
― Groovy Goulet (pixel farmer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link