what a sassmaster.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright
― Groovy Goulet (pixel farmer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, I'd have had to look it up, too! Or reload the whole thread. I'm not going to do it just because he doesn't want to. That's free labor.
― I am Woolen Man. The scarf and I are one. (kenan), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Or this one, where LRH predicts the coming of Mad Men:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Nochrist.mp3
― polyphonic, woensdag 9 februari 2011 21:39 (Yesterday) Bookmark
And because of that he put Elisabeth 'Peggy Olson' Moss in there? ;_;
(yes, only just now found out, rip etc.)
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry kenan, didn't mean to make you cry
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I read the whole thing and enjoyed it but sorta amazed I could read so much and not feel like I'd learned anything new. Maybe just read too many of these by now.
― iatee, Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, I feel that its main function is to lend further credence & exposure to what was already unearthed by the St. Petersburg Times piece(s). Absolutely nothing wrong w/ that though - very well written & assembled. The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.
― beer, beer, beer (Pillbox), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/10/scientology_friends_dc
greta van susteren? say it ain't so
― goole, Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
she hid it and someone revealed it when she left cnn
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.
Definitely. The piece was well-edited with a nice big climax at the end. I think CoS's meeting with the New Yorker people was an uncharacteristically bad move for them, but the whole thing seems like a chess match where they're down to their last few moves and are hoping for stalemate at best.
― Groovy Goulet (pixel farmer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i know! it would help their defense if it wasn't a bunch of creepy controlling thieving bullshit, but, there they are.
i bet if you talked to someone like your parents about these people, the answer would probably be "eh kinda creepy, really expensive, some pseudo psychological self-help crap, dumb celebrities are into it." but now all the wilder stories are being legitimized (maybe overselling the NYer's importance here, but their stuff resonates throughout the rest of the media). like, no really, tom cruise has custom motorcycles built by slave labor in the california desert. the dude's wife got disappeared.
― goole, Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2011/02/08/133561256/the-church-of-scientology-fact-checked
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Halfway through the print version and just wanted to ask, the online one doesn't have any additional content to the print one, does it?
― grand aleutian (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't believe so.
Can't recall, are/were there any ilxors who have defended CoS?
― Groovy Goulet (pixel farmer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
too lazy to search but maybe a defend the indefensible?
I guess envisioning Isaac Hayes and Incredible String Band jamming together would give me ever-so-slight pause before GTFO.
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
the online one doesn't have any additional content to the print one, does it?
under "related links" there are links to an audio interview with the article's author, plus copies of documents such as lrh's military records
― dell (del), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
copies of documents such as lrh's military records
oh man. that's gotta burn Davis & co
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess envisioning Isaac Hayes and Incredible String Band jamming together..
^ this reminds me: if you missed it at the time & you have a taste for CoS schadenfreude, you really should check out the skewering that South Park did a few years back & also the subsequent 'response' episode to Isaac Hayes leaving the show as a result of the ensuing controversy.
both eps are online in full: http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s09e12-trapped-in-the-closethttp://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s10e01-the-return-of-chef
― frankly, mr. cankly (Pillbox), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I fuck with the first few post-CoS Incredible String Band records.
― grand aleutian (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
will never forgive these fuckers for essentially working isaac hayes into an early grave.
― I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
the musical chairs part freaked me out, except
According to Rathbun, Miscavige came to the Hole one evening and announced that everyone was going to play musical chairs. Only the last person standing would be allowed to stay on the base. He declared that people whose spouses “were not participants would have their marriages terminated.” The St. Petersburg Times noted that Miscavige played Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” on a boom box as the church leaders fought over the chairs, punching each other and, in one case, ripping a chair apart.
surely the last person sitting would win a game of musical chairs? is this the most unfortunate misuse of a phrase ever? how did nobody sub this? not criticising just find it amusing.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
last person physically able to stand up and walk to a chair
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
and sit down?
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
The weirdest thing is, of all the stories to confirm, the game of musical chairs is one thing Tommy Davis does confirm!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
My favorite part of the South Park episodes was the THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE text
― w/no hesitation (mh), Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I like the last line the best
did they get sued for that? and if not, how did they manage to avoid it?
― I, Mr. Sneer Joy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
They got threatened like crazy, Tom Cruise refused to do any press junkets on Comedy Central-related stations for War of the Worlds, iirc. I don't think they can sue because the episode really is what Scientologists believe, and the Tom Cruise / Travolta bits are satire.
― w/no hesitation (mh), Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Scienlologist
About 4,970 results (0.18 seconds)
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Furthermore, says Wright, the notice of separation that the church provided was signed by a man who never existed.
never existed on earth perhaps, but elsewhere ........
― buzza, Thursday, 10 February 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
there are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics
― I, Mr. Sneer Joy (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 February 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Won't scroll through the thread to see if it's been posted, but The New Yorker just published an article about Paul Haggis' adventures in Scientology.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 February 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 February 2011 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
A few years ago i dl'ed some Scientology video on The Reactive Mind and becoming a Clear and it was about some guy in a car accident being affected by the things people were saying around him, even though he was unconscious. There's another video that leaked, which is basically just a really generic sales pitch with a few famous faces at the very end. Has any truly crazy Scientology insider videos leaked in the past few years? And no, I mean beside Battlefield Earth ;-)
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 February 2011 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link
there's a pretty famous video of Cruise speaking at a Scieno event
― R. L. Steen's HOOSbumps (some dude), Friday, 11 February 2011 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Cannot recommend it enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMvAXpq7Xj4
― polyphonic, Friday, 11 February 2011 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help.
― frankly, mr. cankly (Pillbox), Friday, 11 February 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
holy shit that tom cruise youtube totally comes off as a parody
― just1n3, Friday, 11 February 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
too surreal to be parody imo
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 11 February 2011 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Make sure you get to the part in the third part of the video wherein they heal 9/11 workers by extracting purple fluid from them.
― polyphonic, Friday, 11 February 2011 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link
An aside from this conversation: interesting how Tony Robbins has gone from, in his 1980s infomercial incarnation, being cult-ish and mysterious-to-all-but-those-who-pay to being more of a performance self-help guru. He still has similar intense energy as these guys, but without the e-meter.
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Friday, 11 February 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
(from the yahoo piece)
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Their entire "religion" is from SCIENCE FICTION literature. There is no Faith or Religion to it, only a pyramid scheme.
― I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Friday, 11 February 2011 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Cross your fingers!
http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/p-t-anderson-may-have-funding-for-inherent-vice-the-master/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 February 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
megan ellison sounds intersting
http://valleywag.gawker.com/#!337723/megan-ellison-loves-the-ladies-just-like-dad
― goole, Friday, 11 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, but repeatedly during that long Tom Cruise thing he alludes to things he 'knows' about the real nature of reality, things only Scientologists know. Makes me wonder if once you get to OT III or whatever it is, they drug you up and take you to a room where you experience some serious planet-hopping shit like from the end of "They Live!"
There certainly seems to be faith in something -- faith in the LRH technologies, faith in the idea that psychiatry is a massive $$$-farming conspiracy, faith in the idea that you have a duty to help others. Certainly no more absurd than weekly cannibalistic rituals and thinking if you believe in Jesus right before you die (not the abstract concept of love & eternity, mind you, only a physical person), you go to heaven.
The conviction in his voice is very convincing. Tho yeah he's 'the greatest actor in the world' so maybe that should be expected. Btw it is pretty bizarre to think according to Scientology rating system Tom Cruise is essentially more spiritually evolved than Jesus or Buddha.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 February 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
..Tom Cruise is essentially more spiritually evolved than Jesus or Buddha.
shhh don't tell Keanu
http://www.corporate-aliens.com/quotes/siddhartha.jpg
― frankly, mr. cankly (Pillbox), Friday, 11 February 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
xp that was the thing about though... he doesn't sound at all authentic in that video, he sounds like he's just another character from one of his movies.
― just1n3, Friday, 11 February 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, like this guy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCEYxs7kWmQ&feature=related
― A Alphabetical Leader (Abbbottt), Friday, 11 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
uh basically nsfw for peeps who haven't seen that
The credit for that movie really should read, "Tom Cruise: Himself".
― I am Woolen Man. The scarf and I are one. (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
lol the irony of PTA making a Scientology movie after putting Cruise in Magnolia - I wonder if working with Cruise is what gave him the idea
― I, Mr. Sneer Joy (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
it's weird to me that people claim to be able to tell when an actor is being himself and when he's acting
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 11 February 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link