and MAGS....fuckin that scene at the end when she comes up to Raylan about as open as you can be and he has to refuse her and just like a cloud passing over the sun it's gone and her jaw is set and oh fuck it is ON like donkey kong now
Soooooooo good
This show
I mean
― VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
that interview, I think, maybehttp://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134629395/timothy-olyphant-justified-in-laying-down-the-law
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Leonard actually said 'don't be afraid to lose the hat.' Not that the hat is bad (I agree that the hat is awesome), just that it shouldn't be so key to the character that he fails or is unrecognizable without it. Which, to me, it isn't; Raylan has done plenty of awesome shit hatless.
― Jouster, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Serious chills at Dickie's cry just before the last break. "Don't you hurt my brother, Raylan!"
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, when Raylan ground his boot into Dickie's bad leg to get him to give up his brother it showed how THE MAN grinds down the locals and that these guys have known each other so long that they know exactly how to work one another.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 08:13 (thirteen years ago) link
2. speaking of which boyd and dicky both deserve lengthy fuckyeahmenswear.tumblr posts in their own right
yeah this is real talk, boyd's all-the-way-buttoned + flannel jackets is an amazing look
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link
not to mention his hair
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, this last arc has been A++
― feels like heelys are racing up my spine (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link
not all the way caught up but id just like to mention that 'god get atcha boy' is an hilarious formulation
― ice cr?m, Friday, 15 April 2011 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think I'm very interested in Raylan and Winona. I was almost bored during their scenes this week. More Harlan, less Lexington please.
― trishyb, Friday, 15 April 2011 07:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't know if i am interested in winona but i am interested in natalie zea.
― j., Friday, 15 April 2011 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Winona just makes me mad everytime she shows up. And the whole Raylan running away to whereever is just...ugh, dude seriously?
but that little moment at the end between Boyd and Ava was <3 <3
I'm not sure I fully understand what Boyd is up to with his brother but next week sure looks interestin' :D
― VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 15 April 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Helen :(
Not hard to see coming, but still
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Season finale next week. Excited and sad at the same time.
My wife (who doesn't watch the show) looked up from her computer when Mags smacked Dickie and said "That's one tough mama." I replied "You don't know the half of it."
― righteousmaelstrom, Thursday, 28 April 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
the town hall scene is fucking awesome, where is margo martindale's emmy nomination
― j., Monday, 2 May 2011 05:08 (thirteen years ago) link
margo is queen of tv mommas. talk about a powerhouse.
also Raylan carrying Helen's death all through that last episode was brutal to watch. Olyphant really brought it.
― VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 2 May 2011 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah he richly deserves the emmy he'll never get
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 2 May 2011 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link
sigh
― VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 2 May 2011 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i can't tell yet if i think walton goggins is doing a better job here than on 'the shield' or if it's just the role or just the fact that he gets to talk eloquently in a southern accent.
― j., Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
he could tell me my house was on fire and Id be all "hmm? oh that. nevermind. what were you were saying?"
― VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah his voice is beautiful
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link
wish he was like Karl Castle on NPR and record answering machine messages for ppl.
― VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
season finale tonight!!
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty hyped
― And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
wooo
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
That was perfect.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Sunday, 8 May 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
okay, so I've been thinking about this season and I'm a little torn. Yeah, it's leagues better than any other currently running drama series but they really kinda threw in the towel near the end of the season wrt stable characterization... boyd is TURNED EVIL and ava's flipped and everybody's generally acting drastically in and out of character at the drop of a hat cuz otherwise there's no show. That said, the ending was lovely and a nice full circle of the variety you hardly ever see on television. The thing i like best about this show is its simple ethos: violence, murder, foolishness and brutality are all justifiable sins if you can walk the thin line. If you cannot justify your actions, you get snuffed... generally in the short term, but if necessary in the long. Boyd and Raylan are the only two characters who've learned how to toe that line and though the way they toe it is different, they're still playing the same game and they tend to respect each other's moves.
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 May 2011 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree that Ava's turns weren't well-explored, but I liked Boyd's arc this season, esp. once he folded Johnny back in (love the shot that reveals him still alive, by the way).
Overall the ending was a little tidy but it worked for me. Hope they have the balls to go for Olyphant's conception of the next season...I guess I shouldn't spoil that for folks who don't want to know.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 May 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Ava is a bit of an afterthought, but I do think she identified with Helen's practical acceptance of the world she's stuck with, and that informed a lot of her worst choices.
This show has a great way of allowing its characters to make terrible, irrational decisions that seem right in the moment. Ava made a few of those, and Winona seems to specialize in them.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Sunday, 8 May 2011 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's that quality that made this season wonderfully unpredictable.
Best moment of the finale for me: Raylan chuckling at his own dumb joke while hanging upside down getting beaten up.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 May 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, and this is the interview where Tim-O briefly talks about the future of the show, but (more importantly) it also features a great story about David Lynch:
http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tt/tt110504timothy_olyphant_jus
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 May 2011 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link
boyd is TURNED EVIL and ava's flipped and everybody's generally acting drastically in and out of character
totally disagree on this.. I think Boyd has been playing a long-con ever since the meth-bazooka/church-lynch twist, even if he has often been doing so unconsciously & guided purely by instinct. The understated complexity Walton Goggins has brought to a role which, at face value, reads like a southern-gothic cartoon villain.. I'll just say that, taken in combination w/ the chops he brought on the last couple seasons of The Shield, dude is on a serious fucking roll.
As for Ava, this is a woman who has already knowingly married a murderous criminal, who she then herself murdered.
― Challops Never End (Pillbox), Sunday, 8 May 2011 07:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno, all the character decisions for the whole post black pike mining arc felt pretty strained to me. They also started leaning WAY more heavily on the southern gothic mythos and making Harlan less and less realistic and the characters sound more and more Milch-y. Not every hillbilly is unintentionally eloquent, you know? ymmv. again, it's really more a matter of picking what I didn't like about this season as there was so much that i did.
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 May 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link
ava thing didnt bug me? shes not exactly a good girl, and raylan completely and unceremoniously ditched out on her, while boyd stuck by her side and proved himself to be a good companion
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Sunday, 8 May 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, also isn't ava really young? i feel like she's still figuring stuff out.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 8 May 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link
xp to forks - it's tricky. The southern-goth stuff was laid on SUPER thick this season, esp. at the end, but it was handled so deftly by all involved that I can't come up w/ much to complain about (a little more Dewey Crow comic relief, maybe?). Personally, I would have rather seen a more natural build-up of the 'southern mafia' conflict w/o the Black Pike plot device, but Boyd's roll in that did not seem unnatural imo. The way I read it was like: Boyd's existential/introspective phase ended precisely at the point when he snapped on the dumbass miner dude who would not leave him alone. Everything which ensued was him reverting back to his essential (predetermined?) mindset & exploiting various windows of opportunity (even if, yeah, the Black Pike thing was sorta too convenient).
― Challops Never End (Pillbox), Sunday, 8 May 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
;_; missing u ;_;
― thats my meme dont were it out (Pillbox), Thursday, 19 May 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 the ever loving shit out of this show
my torrents cut out before the end credits, assuming there are any, and at the end of the ep where they're running around trying to get winona's stolen dough back in the safe, the music from 'the shield' came into my head
that's how good it is
― if white indie hipsters could fly this place would be top gun (history mayne), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
After seeing Josh Gibbs (Gutterson, the awesome sniper marshall) in "The Pacific" this weekend, I feel it is important to say that dude is v v handsome, despite being eclipsed by Olyphant.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh Jacob Pitts. Who is Josh Gibbs, wtf my brain
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't like Justified's theme song. :/
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not great. Like low-rent Everlast.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
one of my dogs LOVES the theme song - damn near any other theme song she freaks out, gets anxious and angry at the tv (30 rock theme sets her the fuck off like mary hart or some shit), but justified comes on and she stops what she's doing, chills out, and sits down in front of the tv w/ a smile on. i think she just likes the show.
― balls, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
haha my kid's like that with the Colbert Report theme music
i believe i once described the Justified theme as Everlast f/ Chali 2na
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
That story about the dog reminds me of this:
http://nastynets.com/?p=2890
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
just binged on s2, super dope
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it was a considerable step up from s1 no doubt
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
btw, have never watched the shield; if i like justified, i'll like the shield?
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
the reversal at the end where mags took the poison was p awesome, like i saw it coming from when she got the two glasses from different spots, but then for a sec i was like maybe she did give it to raylon, v well executed
one thing that kind of continually annoys and interests me abt the show is their relance on super conventional tv tropes, like rayon is saved from death at the last second by his friends via a bullet through doyles head, but then the thing that makes it interesting and maybe more annoying is that its so knowing, the show is v meta, the tension between the naturalistic and contrived approches is incorporated on many levels in a sort of uh dizzying cycle, it becomes a primary edge and driver of the drama, like raylon wears the cowboy hat because he hated his life and wanted to build a new one, but the only two things he knew abt were this backwoods fucked up criminal bullshit and what hed seen on tv, so he modled himself after a tv lawman, only he actually is a tv lawman, my god
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link