pretty much otm
― ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
When he was climbing the wall I kept wondering why they built the castle for Assassin's Creed specifications.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
it wasn't great but will watch a few more before damning it completely.
― Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
supposedly it gets (even) better
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah like...if you watch six seasons of the sopranos or whatev the first few are always a bit shonky.
― Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show. it's more of a preview/prologue type of episode where all the pieces are put into place. not that that is a particularly bad idea -- the world they're playing with is much much larger than the one of the sopranos.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, but in this case they have the added responsibility of a viewership that already knows the entire contents of this season of planned plot developments. I can understand how that makes a tough balance between keeping the allegiances of the readers and drawing in new HBO viewers. That is not a comfortable seat, all in all.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
dude is a perv tbh
I agree, but I think he may have more of a pregnancy fetish than anything else. At least that's what I get from the books.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
That wolf pup is CGI, right?
― calstars, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
NNOOOOOO they used sled-dog puppies.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Those ears are 100% REAL, AND THEY ARE GLORIOUS.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^^
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
One of the articles linked above talks about the move away from episodic television altogether on HBO. The Sopranos and Deadwood both establish a lot about their central characters in the first episodes, and they're still fairly episodic in nature to give a full story, which GoT doesn't really do except some broad character strokes. Still, those shows took 3 or 4 episodes to really show their stuff ("College" and "Here Was A Man" are the ones usually cited).
I don't think GoT will be nearly as good as either of those, but it looks to be pretty entertaining once it gets going. Also, pretty much everything I've read says the pilot is the worst of the first 6.
Agreed about the nudity, though I think the brother-groping scene is a bit more pervy than you're giving it credit for. Certainly the final scene with her and the new husband is played for violation-by-the-Other discomfort.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the wedding was even worse than the rave in the 2nd matrix movie as far as dionysian nerd fantasies go
― adam, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:49 (Yesterday)
the angry, grunty dry humping was fucking HILARIOUS.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
so i started re-reading the first book last night and there have already been at like three references to someone's seed quickening in someone else's womb or whatever so you may be on to something.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 07:15 (thirteen years ago) link
For those wondering about Theon, he apparently does come into a lot more in the first six episodes. I reckon he'll have an awesome payoff in the books down the line as well.
― Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 09:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark
ha ha ha
idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:39 (9 hours ago) Bookmark
errrr did they skip the execution? because that's pretty much the whole thing there, I gotta say
― thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Why the laugh?
― Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the execution says a lot about that particular family and that particular people living in the north, but didn't really seem to speak to the exiled king or the real party king or any of the other groups. which idk having not read the book i can't comment with any authority.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
= 'these are the sorts of bad decisions that acting honourably leads you to'
― thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I think there's also the pressure on those who DO act honorably to make even become even more vigilant/observant when standards seem to be loosening all around them -- ex Robert's slack court in the South. The whole world is putting N. Stark in this position, and he's becoming more alone every day.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
(Sorry about the mis-read there, was revising in a hurry.)
yo thomp...
― Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's funny that, at this point, anyone would have any faith in george r.r. martin's ability to plot a novel in a way that would result in any kind of satisfying experience for the reader
― thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah right, you may have a point there.
― Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
at this point -- you mean one episode in (and it gets better) or you mean considering the corpus of material he's already written?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
alllll my wolves stay realstark don't think these political dealsgonna feed your seedsand pay your bills because they not
(xxp)
― c( ☠_ ☠ )ↄ (Lamp), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
George got a little bit of love and thinks's he's hot
― Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
mordy, sorry, that was in response to the thing about whether it will turn out in book five, six, or seven that theon has some reason for having been there
― thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
hey guess what
http://images.hitfix.com/photos/503754/game-of-thrones-daenerys_article_story_main.jpg
winter is busting a nut all or ya face
― dearth of the hipster (Lamp), Thursday, 21 April 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
That photo is the wrong color, on the tv her hair is a woolly yellow-blond that looks like someone hid the undyed roots with cornstarch and powder bleach. I'll be delighted, though, when the character gets to a place where she makes that resolute a face ALL the time.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link
sarah connor IS cersei lannister
― calstars, Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Sky Atlantic fan show (probably not for people who already know the books and stuff, it's pretty beginner-y... might be of interest? It's an iTunes podcast, too):http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Whoops: http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/thronecast
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
ha "thronecast", sounds like they're broadcasting from a toilet
― it always seems to have dick smith in it (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
podthrone
― VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
You Shit Or You Die
― last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 April 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Urine is Coming
― VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 21 April 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Haven't read the books, loved the first episode.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 22 April 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Already so much shit going down!
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 22 April 2011 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Finally got to watch the first episode. From the talk of things the wedding scene was going to be some grand cheese ball of central focus, but a few quick flashes to dry humping I can take. I thought the episode was solid -- some stiff dialogue about who is who and what is what was necessary and they got through the exposition fairly effectively here. Some more to come, no doubt, but once we get a few episodes into this I think the characters will make for compelling viewing by themselves. All the actors seemed very well cast. Sansa was perfect.
― abcfsk, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree-- this episode had pilot-itis where they have to give you a tidbit of everyone involved but a meal of none. And I do trust the characters will get to stretch out a bit starting in the next coupla.
Agree with reservations about the Daneirys actress-- not so much physically but the tone of her performance-- the somnambulist/frightened rabbit thing. Didn't seem right.
My only outright beef is with the music. Cheap, generic, dull. I understand that they fired their original composer (Stephen Warbeck) vcery late in the game, so that Ramin Djawadi had scant time to do his job, but this just sounds like stuff you'd hear on an electronic RPG or a History Channel special on Vikings. In other words, they need to fire their composer again pronto. All the painstaking, beautiful execution on so many other fronts and they think people won't notice this half-assed crap?
― last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I think the frightened rabbit thing is is the right look for her so far.. what was entertaining about the character in the book was how she came off as frightened, unsure, dulled by suppression, but then had moments when provoked where she exploded and found her powers.
― abcfsk, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^
I think its totally okay for her to be a frightened rabbit at this point, her future is so unsure and her supposed protector is a creep!
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
OK so maybe frightened rabbit is apt but what about the weird sleepwalker affect?
― last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
To let the camera linger on her ass better, iirc.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Eh it's predicable "pretty, scared girl" stuff, it's fine, not going to ruin the show for me. But as a young woman who had never known anything else I imagined her being a lot more affect-less, that she would have figured out how to hide her fear by now -- this is how her whole life has been.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I actually think the sleepwalking thing is the right direction.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe its because I just finished rereading the book before I watched this, but she comes across as still pretty fearful, at least prior to the wedding and up to her deflowering.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I defer to anyone who's read the books more recently than about 4 years ago! Damn it.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
There is still some awkwardness about her, thats for sure, but I don't think the fearful thing is the problem just yet. We'll have to see how she evolves over the next few episodes, thats for sure.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link