I actually prefer books but it's not like GRRM has a lot of "literary" pleasures in his books. He's a great writer of plot, but if you already know what's gonna happen bc of the show...
― Mordy, Friday, 17 June 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I'm definitely reading GOT in a pulp mode, which reminds me of a quotation from the NYer article where one of GRRM's haters is all, "[The first three books in the series are] the finest novels I’ve ever read," and I'm like, read much?
― E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Friday, 17 June 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
The main things the book have got going for them over the show is the humor - the spiteful things every character thinks of everyone else.
― abcfsk, Friday, 17 June 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
Just rewatched ep 5 and found Arya's "I'm not a boy!" reaction pretty lol.
Also forgot how great the Robert/Cersei scene was.
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 06:39 (twelve years ago) link
And didn't realize the first time around that the Spider was talking to the Merchant from across the Narrow Sea about Stark looking into the bastards etc
kinda stupid question perhaps...but i looked on amazon and it was really fucking confusing seeing which book was what, or which collections had all the books, some people were even complaining one "set" was missing a book...
is there a definitive way of buying them all at once or what's the cheapest way? which way are you all reading them?
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Friday, 17 June 2011 08:31 (twelve years ago) link
This is what you want LG. There are no books missing from it (apart from the 5th one which isn't actually out for another month)http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61RXUvc1PwL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Song-Ice-Fire-4v-Thrones/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308304792&sr=8-1
― Number None, Friday, 17 June 2011 10:02 (twelve years ago) link
― Mordy, Friday, June 17, 2011 1:01 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
sure, but the books are much deeper and you dont have to worry about cruddy actors or ugly sets or exposition being crammed into lesbian hooker sex. they have a budget of infinity!
― ☂ (max), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure about the claim that they're 'deeper' but i'm more and more befuddled by the HBOzation of this already fairly HBOish set of books
like i was reading the wiki for it and they have introduced one new character, 'roz' -- she is portrayed by a glamour model and was given a name in the xth episode after being previously identified in the scripts as 'red-headed whore'
stay classy, HBO
― thomp, Friday, 17 June 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
"deeper" in the sense that theres "more plot/more explanation" not like thematically deeper
― ☂ (max), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
they should have called her "exposition whore" since that is her plot function
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
lolz
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 17 June 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
i thought Ros was the redhead barmaid that Theon gets it on with in the books, or i assume at least based on her?
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 17 June 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
she is, and she comes south.
― remy bean, Friday, 17 June 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
huh huh
In the UK, Book 3 is split into two. This might have caused confusion. It also makes me wonder if they'll split book 3 into two seasons.
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
they should conflate books two and three
― thomp, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
It does kinda sound like they're doing that. In the interview with the creators in the LA Times they said they would be bringing elements of the third book into season two, so that certain characters who don't get up to much in the book don't get forgotten by viewers.
― Number None, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i'm sort of wondering if that strategy, in the long run, might also serve to shorten the number of seasons ie give them a better crack at finishing the series in less than seven arcs
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Friday, 17 June 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
sure, but the books are much deeper and you dont have to worry about cruddy actors or ugly sets or exposition being crammed into lesbian hooker sex.
What if I like lesbian hooker sex?
― E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Saturday, 18 June 2011 07:05 (twelve years ago) link
When Sansa says she doesn't want a strong, honest, good man because she wants Joffrey, does the book adequately capture the lolz that come from Arya and Ned's exchange of smirking glances?
― Gukbe, Saturday, 18 June 2011 07:15 (twelve years ago) link
wow, the 'no spoilers please' thing has really been abandoned by this thread, i should stop checking it
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
i think "no spoilers" refers to "no spoilers past what's happened on the show"
― ☂ (max), Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
otherwise... why have a thread about a tv show
― ☂ (max), Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
i thought i had seen something that hadn't happened on the most recent episode -- could be mistaken though
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
The interview with the showrunners upthread has a fairly sizable spoiler in like the first sentence.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 18 June 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
Which was noted in the thread
― Number None, Saturday, 18 June 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
TONIGHT YOU GUYS!
In the spirit of "not dead unless shown onscreen," I'm wagering that the next OMGTWIST is that Ned is still alive.
― E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Sunday, 19 June 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
wondering what happened to Arya's 'dancing' teacher myself
― Gukbe, Sunday, 19 June 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
my own personal theory regarding her dancing master is too spoiler-heavy for this thread. maybe some other time..
― one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 19 June 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
Spring 2012 to see Joffrey get some level of comeuppance.
― Gukbe, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
hate u cable tv having types
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
RT
@tedleo
WHAT? Spring 2012!?!?!
21 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
― My Boyfriend Could Be A Spanish Man (R Baez), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
Wait? Spring 2012 for the next series? http://ernstmul.home.xs4all.nl/images/yahoo/28.gif
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
season - whatever
TOO LONG
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
Considering they haven't finished the scripts nor cast Stannis I'd say a year is the best you can hope for.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
SHUT UP ;_;
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 June 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
They start filming next month.
― Gukbe, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
...gotta admit I'm worried about a season-full (or more) of cheesy dragon f/x
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 20 June 2011 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
Dragon fx looked good to me.
― Jouster, Monday, 20 June 2011 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I thought the dragon FX looked suprisingly good!
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 20 June 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
the sound design was great and helped to sell it a bit, but I didn't find the visuals quite convincing, which would only get worse if they're, you know, 50 times bigger.
Decent finale, not mindblowing but not really trying to be. I'm intrigued by the Arya/bastard pairing, and I loved the scene with Sansa and Joffrey.
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 20 June 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
great ep. ( *spoiler post, if you haven't watched it yet* )
i especially loved Jeor's speech to Snow. the only scene that fell flat, to me, was the one with Little Finger and Varys. what was the point of that? i was half expecting them to start making out!
this has also cemented my conviction to NOT read the books. in addition to many-another-factor - i'm enjoying not knowing what's going to happen next. seeing how they revealed Daenerys surviving the fire was just too good!
― magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
the dragons were so cute :3
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
final two scenes were amazing sequence to end season w/
― Mordy, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
i especially loved Jeor's speech to Snow.
Yes, that guy is awesome
the only scene that fell flat, to me, was the one with Little Finger and Varys. what was the point of that? i was half expecting them to start making out!
I thought this was cool and i dig the relationship they're setting up between the two of them. Antagonistic but with a level of mutual respect. The actor who plays Varys has been superb i think. The scene what played weirdly for me was the Grand Maester Pycelle/Ros one.
― Number None, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
I am so mad that this series has made me want dragons and direwolves as pets when it's never going to happen.
― I don't know who Cerebus is, and I'm 6'0 and 192 (Nicole), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
The scene what played weirdly for me was the Grand Maester Pycelle/Ros one.
should have had the word "exposition!" flashing at the bottom of the screen imo
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
the Baelish/Varys and Grand Maester/Roz scenes both kinda sucked - the former was a little funny at least, but felt very redundant. the later was rambling and largely pointless. (I know that was the intention, but it was a waste of valuable finale time.) Would rather have checked in w/ Cersei at some point, esp. given her reaction to Joffrey's order to execute Ned last week.
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 20 June 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
*the latter