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― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Thursday, 30 June 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link
every shot looks period to me
― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah consider me stoked. looks like exactly the right tone. still hard to get my head around a non Guinness/BBC version but hey.
― piscesx, Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely could work, the brief bit of the Karla interrogation scene was solid.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
oldman doing his best obi-wan impression
― conrad, Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
its still set in the 1970s according to wikipedia
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
i just rescreened this the other week and it put me on a le carre book/movie/miniseries kick. the miniseries for a perfect spy is kinda 'eh' (though i dont love the novel as much as everyone else does); smiley's people is pretty good but not as good as this.
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:16 (twelve years ago) link
sick trailer btw
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link
pretty stoked for this based on the trailer, never seen or read any le carré.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
i pretty much love anything with spies and the cold war.
dude!!
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
excited for this!
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
so many craggy-looking british dudes!
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
new board description
― mizzell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
haha. oldman is so good. has he really never won an oscar?
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
'oscar' and 'good at acting' are pretty bad predictors of ea. other
― thomp, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i know. just the "gary oldman BAFTA winner - colin firth academy award winner" thing at the end struck me as wrong.
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
Psyched for this even though it can't possibly improve upon the mini-series.
― Moodles, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, just the condensing of everything to feature length makes me nervous. but looks like they nailed the vibe, judging from the trailer.
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
ha i don't think his (oldman's) bafta was even for acting? the bafta best actor over the past twenty years is an almost unalloyed cavalcade of mediocrity though, c-fuzz won it for king's speech AND for a single man
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― thomp, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
i don't even mind firth, but i'm sure even he would say that oldman's the better actor.
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
jim in glasgow this
never seen or read any le carré.― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:19 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinki pretty much love anything with spies and the cold war.― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:19 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:19 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
is just crazy talk! you need to get some carré my friend
― just sayin, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
kinda can't believe i am doing trailer analysis but: the snippets of firth in this make him look great?, like it'll be a good fit for his perma-pensive face
― devoted to boats (schlump), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
i have also never read le carre!
― rebel yelp (gbx), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
and i love spy shit
Lord, man. Get reading immediately.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
ned knows
― just sayin, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
the newest isn't bad at all, actually
― remy bean, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
:D
― Lamp, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
think my dad has all of them sitting in the book shelf as well, and i've read pretty much anything of promise in there.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
like he has a big book with at least three novels in it.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
bros u gotta read the smiley series
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
read. it.
― remy bean, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
I grew up with Le Carré books all around the house - my dad was/is a big fan of his early stuff (not to mention Eric Ambler - did someone ever make a movie out of Mask of Dimitrios?).
― Marco Damiani, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
Not all of the Le Carré books are great, he got more verbose as he gained popularity, which I don't think was necessarily a good thing. However both The Spy Who Came In From The Cold and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy are excellent.
― Moodles, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
Cumberbatch has his work cut out being half as good as Michael Jayston i think, the relationship between Guillam and Smiley (in the series) was so brilliant; a strange but believable warm funny buddy movie vibe they had going on. age gap between Cumberbatch and Oldman seems much wider but that's just nitpicking.
― piscesx, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
smiley's age sort of oscillates in the books
― thomp, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
which are, secretly, awful
which book first?
i think i'm gonna spend like a million hours at the beach today
― rebel yelp (gbx), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
the eight (?) books w/ smiley are his best, i think, esp. spy who came in from the cold and "the karla trilogy" (ttss/honorable schoolboy/smileys ppl). the first couple smiley books are "minor" but fun (one is not really even a spy book). the last two are also good but a little more... well theres less action, among other things. apparently looking-glass war is the most "realistic" of le carre's books, which makes it kind of boring.
perfect spy is overrated i think. most of the 90s/2000s stuff that ive read is okay but never quite reaches the smiley heights. tailor of panama is fun.
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
chronologically youd want to start with "call for the dead" but i think youre better off going w/ spy who came in from the cold
thx dude
― rebel yelp (gbx), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
"little drummer girl" is good too i thought but i havent read it in 5 or 6 years
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
*shakes head sadly at thomp*
lol max you're a heavy le carré stan.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
heh well like i said i just went on a binge so its all fresh in my brain
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the first Smiley books are basically crime and detection novels - good examples of them tho, with a strong feeling for dialogue and atmosphere, which once again in many ways is a decayed rural and city version of Golden Period detection thrillers. Find it hard to get behind Smiley's People, either the book or the execrable TV version. Agree w' max about the Looking-Glass War and Perfect Spy certainly.
― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
also i have some of it wrong--looking glass war comes *before* the karla books. and secret pilgrim barely has smiley in it. (hes a minor character in swciftc and lgw too)
Call for the Dead (1961)A Murder of Quality (1962)The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (1963) (Edgar Award 1965, Best Novel)The Looking Glass War (1965)Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (1974)The Honourable Schoolboy (1977)Smiley's People (1979)The Secret Pilgrim (1990)
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol wikipedia otm
― Lamp, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
btw one of the great things about the original british miniseries is that patrick stewart plays karla and has... no lines
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link